What's the true bedrock or foundation of Western civilization?

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It's Christianity. The new testament has had more influence on the West than anything.

>>133261998
Technically all of those things are high-quality memes.

brainpower

>>133263789
if that's true, explain 105 iq china with their buildings made of sand that fall apart from a gust of wind

>>133261808
consumerism and hedonism

>>133261808
Being good at slaughtering others for your own gain

wealth, wealth and more wealth. Without money there wouldn't be the west as we know it.

>>133261808

Lies.

>>133264120
Lots of cultures have that and they still didn't accomplish as many unique things.
>>133264033
Is that unique to Western Civilization?

>>133261808
White people.

>>133264403
USA is a brown country.

>>133264268
>Lots of cultures have that and they still didn't accomplish as many unique things.
you missed
>being good

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There's nothing good in European christianity that wasn't already present in Europe and absorbed by the newcomer religion. The western(post Charlemagne) cultural outlook is a mix of Greco-Roman culture and institutions and Germanic traditions.

>>133264487
Another abhorent post by a Kraut
Surprise, surprise

>>133264487
Is the US actually Western at this point or is it something different? Or maybe becoming something different?
>>133264772
The Mongols were arguably better at killing others than Westerners and they never produced anywhere near the civilizational achievements.

>>133261808
>Christianity?

It is Christianity because it preserved and transformed the Greaco-Roman philosophy into a european framework. Individualism is derived from Martin Luther's "Von der Freiheit eines Christenmenschen" and that also led to civic ideas. The whole notion of freedem of the individual is a christian idea and this is what the West is build upon. Incidentally this is also why Muslims hate the West and consider it to be intrinsically christian no matte rwhat a faggot liberal has to say about it.

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>>133262207
Western civilization existed before christianity, burger-kun.

>>133261808
>Greco-Roman philosophical and civic ideas
probably these at the foundation with Christianity to fill in the blanks

>>133264897
>The Mongols were arguably better at killing others than Westerners and they never produced anywhere near the civilizational achievements.
If they were actually better they would have not been beaten.

>>133261808
If I had to guess, I'd say there are a few common elements that seem to have brought Western Civilisation to be the greatest yet.

But at the foundation of everything, there would be a sense of measure and scepticism allied with an insatiable thirst for knowledge, discoveries and advancement.

Those characteristics seem to lie at the foundation of everything great about Europe.

>>133261808
Diversity isnt on your list, h8r

It's definitely not English language nor culture, no definitely not that.

>>133261808
The Magna Carta from 1215 is the foundation of most Western law. Written under duress similarly to the states requiring the addition of the Bill of Rights prior to ratifying the Constitution. Read it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta

Unironic anti-semites will be interested in Articles 10 and 11:
https://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation

>>133265468
Those features are unique to Indo-European cultures, I might add.

Most African cultures did not and still don't have all those ideas brought together. Most striking is the lack of thirst for progress in African and Asian cultures, which tend to strive for a perpetuation of a given order, while Europeans seem to have been willing to stirr things up from an early age.

The Roman Empire was the most important thing in European history.

>>133261808
Roman law, Greek philosophy and Christianity. For body, mind and soul.

>>133265851
Yes, Anon., it's definitely not, and not in any way, English language nor English culture.

>>133261808
Western political theory comes very heavily from Athenian philosophy and Roman development/implementations of those ideas, moral theory comes from Christianity.

>>133266096
Que?

>>133265015
Luther defended the individual from the power of the church, yet you give the church credit for individualism?

I think anyone who has read Plato should have no trouble tracing the roots much further back in time (to Socrates)

It is actually Gothic architecture, classical music, Catholicism, and calculus. The basis of Western Culture is actually Viking culture, a longing for vast infinite space, discovery, and expansion

>not understanding the distinction between Apollonian Greco-Roman culture and Faustian Western culture
>not understanding the difference between Magian Christianity (Augustine) and Western Christanity (Aquinas)
>not understanding that Greeks and Northern Europeans have completely different cultures
>Not reading Spengler

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>>133261808
Aristotelianism.
>objective reality
>concepts as tools of cognition
>logic
Read pic related
also >>133267601
this guy knows what's up

>>133261808
The bones of our enemies are the bedrock. The useful traditions and customs of the cultures we kept after conquest and subsumption.

>>133261808
Ancient - Zoroastrianism
Modern - Hegel

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>>133263751
1+2pbp

>>133269956
>Modern - Hegel
And people wonder why the 20th century was drenched in the blood of hundreds of millions

>>133261808
White people.

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>>133261808
Christianity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdsVC_qR4t0

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>>133270748
>romans build western civilisation
>they convert just before collapse
WE WUZ CIVILIZED AN SHIET

>>133261808
Greco_Roman foundation laws included and i would and Christianity with Pagan influence in it that would define Western for me Individualism the extereme one we have today is toxic to the West

>>133271020
Rome was never majority Christian