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>Her family says Madison was in the bathtub and grabbed her phone that was plugged into a charger in a bathroom outlet.

>"She was very smart, a very good student in school. She just loved life," O'Guinn said.

http://www.kcbd.com/story/35851834/texas-teen-electrocuted-after-cell-phone-accidentally-falls-in-bathtub
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>>133252059
Those 5 Volt cellphone chargers truly are dangerous. I'll never touch a 9V battery again, these things are death-traps.
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>>133252059

>She was very smart
>Electrocutes herself with a phone in a fucking bathtub

This is evolution at work
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>>133252265

Electricity isn't actually that complex of a subject. There's no excuse for being as ignorant as you are.
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>>133252265
>Volts are bad okay haha no I didn't know about the relationship between current, resistance, and voltage, haha I'm being overly simplistic because I'm a rural and suburban European retard haha
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>>133252059
How the fuck do you manage to kill yourself that way? Especially on accident?! Electricity tends to take the easiest path it can find, and that usually is along the wires. A heart should not stop if the electricity does not go through it, i.e., from one hand to another. I know that a toaster at least won't kill anyone when dropped into a bathtub. It will just heat some water. I've tested that one.
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>>133252059
Shit happens.
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>>133252059
>roastie
Chick was only 14, unless you have like FB pics or something that show otherwise (in which case I'll stand corrected), I highly doubt she was a roastie. I remember being that age usually the few chicks that had sex would stick with whoever they had sex with until graduation because of the whole attachment to first time thing
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>>133252574
>>133252629
Can't tell if you faggots are serious.
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>>133252629
5 volts can't penetrate the skin. You need at least 50. You might be able to feel something if your skin is wet, but there is no way you could kill yourself with it.
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I guarantee it was cheap chinese charger with no regulator or protection circuit
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>>133252747
It's pretty obvious she was either murdered by her parents or someone else and they faked this to look like an accident.

Could be pizzagate related desu senpai
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>>133252965
Voltage isn't what kills you it's the current.
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>>133253046
Or she had some heart condition. The phone might have zapped her hand and that could have scared her to death.
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>>133252059
>"She was very smart, a very good student in school. She just loved life," O'Guinn said.

why do libshits always use un-quantifable descriptions?
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>>133252059
Electronics tech for 20 years. Calling bullshit
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>>133252989
Will trump go to war?
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Shouldn't work if there was GFCI shitty illegal wiring kek
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>>133253162
That's quite literally the most retarded thing anyone has said on this thread. A hint: I = U / R
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>>133252265
It's not the volts that kill you, it's the amps, and it takes less than 1 to stop your heart. This is why people survive lightning strikes. Millions of volts passing through you will hurt but won't necessarily kill you. Amps is the force in which electricity is "pushed" btw.
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>>133252059
I don't get it, how can you get electrocuted with a cell phone charger? I've acidentally touched the metal end of it and the most it did was a mild jolt.
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>>133252059
natural selection hurts but the highest law is natural law
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>>133252059
Surely she would be of the same potential? This doesn't make sense.

Also the transformer is at the socket, so we're looking at what, 5v and fuck all amps?

Fake and gay
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>>133252747
>I've tested that one

>>133253311
Humans can survive VERY little current though
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>>133253221
Because when you have no hobbies or skills that's the go to description. It's not like they can be like "oh she loved going on Facebook, and gossiping and texting" since they know that's bad.
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>>133252059
Who in the fuck has any fucking electronic device near them when they are taking a fucking bath or shower?
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>>133253400
Maybe because you broke the connection the instant you felt the shock, Anon.
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>>133253520
Children are literally addicted to their phones now.
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>>133253311
Yes, that's the whole point you fucking invalid. You can have a voltage of a gajillion V and as long as the resistance is also ridiculously high, you will not be affected at all.
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>>133253243
Why?
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>>133253520
You don't use your phone in the shower?
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>>133253449
We're charting in the yellow here guys.
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>>133253520
I mean I have mine near me unplugged on top of my towel incase I get an important call, the only thing that could happen would be your phone breaking when you dropped it in like an idiot.
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>>133253398
>Amps is the force in which electricity is "pushed" btw.

Incorrect. Amps is a measurement of the rate of electrons passing a given point. Voltage is the measurement of energy potential per coulomb (per charge).
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>>133253706
>getting wound up so easily
Anon...
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>>133253520
>Not making some nice, hot toast while taking a bath.

You're missing out mate.
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>>133253398
What the hell do they teach to you muricans at school? Amper is the unit of current, which is the amount of electric charge transferred per second. It has nothing to do with force, unless you consider magnetism. Without enough volts, you won't get enough ampers to kill you. Sure, with enough volts you might not get enough amps either, if your power supply can't supply enough power, which is usually the case with static electricity.

>Humans can survive VERY little current though
Sure, but you require certain voltage to get through the skin.

>>133253706
That was not his point, since that's only tangentially relevant.
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So her parents must have killed her, title says she dropped her phone in the bath, story says the phone may or may not have been plugged into the charger. Like what the fuck are they trying to say in this story. I bet they fucking toastered her.
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>>133252059

Sounds like she was living in a shithole that isn't up to code. GFID plugs are mandatory near sinks/bathtubs.

Right wing safety squads when?
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>>133253818
You can thank Nazi Germany for this chart. The data was collected by testing on Jews
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>>133252965
At constant voltage, amperage increases inversely to resistance. When you are in a water bath the resistance of the skin massively decreases because you are effectively in parallel with water that has very low resistance. This steps up current and it doesn't take much at all to kill you.
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>>133252965
>>133252265
>>133252965
>"that was plugged into a charger''
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>>133253960
We're talking about a mild tingle at worst
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>>133253520
women

you just have to keep up with your friends and show them pics of your legs as you have your nice "me time" every waking second these days
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>>133253311
Current is what throws the heart into arrhythmia and kills you. Hint your heart works via electrical current.
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>>133253398
> American education system at work
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>>133253917
>What the hell do they teach to you muricans at school?
That gender is on a spectrum and all white people were evil rich slave owners
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>>133253930

>GFCI

Corrected my own record.
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>>133252265
>Those 5 Volt cellphone chargers truly are dangerous. I'll never touch a 9V battery again, these things are death-traps.

It was probably a cheap chinese designed charger with a common "ground" connection between the AC side and the 5v DC. It has happened before. Short the 5v, the regulator shorts & fuses internally, 120AC gets dumped to the 5v output... Bam, fried 14 year old.

Never get in the bath with something plugged into a wall outlet, even if it is presumed to be a small DC voltage. It starts as much higher, and you would be betting that some underpaid chinese designer values your life.
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>loved life
>didnt care enough to preserve it

ayy
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>>133253960
This pic has the effects in writing for you fucking retards.

A charger is like 1mA?
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>>133253207
this. last time i thought i hurt myself(even tho i wasnt hurt) i had a seizure and almost died
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>>133254084
He's right you faggot. Stun guns are millions of volts but only shock you
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>>133252059
Shit I 4chan in my bubble baths on my phone. Glad I read this.
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>>133252059
ban high-capacity misogynistic chargers
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>>133254081
>Hint your heart works via electrical current.
This is probably the highest level of abstraction you could come up with when explaining how anything electrochemical works. Or, you know, kind of, since it definitely doesn't work via current.
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Odd, Mythbusters did an episode on dropping a toaster in the bathtub and found it was unlikely to kill you because of circuit breakers.
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>>133252059
Shame she will never grow old enough to get her 1st BBC.
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>>133253207
This so much. I don't see how that charger could have killed her pushing 5 volts even at decent current.
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Toasty bathtub should be a meme.
I imagine pictures bitches relaxing in a bathtub with a toaster right next to them.
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>>133253602
My 13 year old doesn't have a cell phone and the other kids make fun of her for it. I don't give a fuck though. These kids need to learn how to exist in the world without that shit before they get connected to the spergoweb.

Sure, using the Internet at home under supervision is fine. But I'm not about to let my kids be connected at all times. I didn't get a cell phone until I was 25 years old and I only did it because I had to for work. Granted, work is currently subsidizing this shit post and I am hopelessly addicted to 4chins, but I'm 31 years old and know how to navigate the world without GPS.
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>>133254302


just don't charge your phone meanwhile, you retard
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i call illegal charger

a proper one should be insulated from ground on the DC side, or are they even worse these days?

and i swear to god, these thread always keep attracting the most retard people on this subject
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Does fat insulate you from electricity?

Asking because I'm fat thanks.
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Guess that must have been a hell of a tub ring to scrub out
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>>133252059
ahahaha VAGINAL JEWS BTFO
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>>133254432
I expect she's already had it

>>133254469
Get her pic related, I still insist on it myself to this day
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I always wondered who the hell actually needed to be told these things. Can't wait until cell phones have to come with a similar warning.
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Is this down to stupid or to cellphone addiction tho
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>>133254469
I got a cell phone at 14 but I also had a job and paid for it myself. My niece is 10 and has a cell phone for some fucking reason that my sister and brother in law bought her for her birthday. They think I'm paranoid for pointing out pedophiles online could take advantage of a stupid 10 year old with unrestricted internet access.
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>>133254157
This, every other explanation is fucking retarded.
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>>133254469
Jesus you're such a shit dad. You have no idea how ruthless girls are. You're a fucking 4chin neckbeard dad and you will be turning your child into the same kind of thing. Except she'll fucking hate you forever when shes your age.
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>>133254425

I can only guess, but perhaps it was because the phone was on the secondary side of the charger's transformer and the GFCI didn't detect fault current? That or perhaps there was no GFCI protection and the house was in violation of NEC codes.
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>>133253046
>Could be pizzagate related desu senpai

Not until we settle whether or not jet fuel melts steel beams.
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>>133254078
Adult women need to start having kids. You ever notice how well adjusted mother's on Facebook tend to only post pictures of their kids? In most cases the degenerate evaporates upon child birth.
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>>133254659
>Does fat insulate you from electricity?
It does. You can measure your body fat somewhat accurately based on how well you conduct electricity.
>I'm fat
Sort yourself out.
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>>133253221
>why do libshits always use un-quantifable descriptions?

She was 5'6 and 102lbs, with a 3.2 GPA.

Better?
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>>133254469
I'm about to sound like a total retard, but fuck it. I was on a road trip with my uncle and we were using the gps, and we got off track. I was like:
>Jesus, how did people ever figure out what to do when they got lost without GPS?
He just kind of sighed and was like
>...they read the signs.
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>>133253917
> It has nothing to do with force,

E=VQ

V=IR

I=E/RQ

E=Fd

I=Fd/RQ

I∝F

It's nothing to do with the skin, faggot, amps only kill you because they stop your heart. Only a certain range of currents can kill you. If it is higher or lower than that it won't. Voltage is only relevant insofar as the current it creates in combination with resistance.
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>>133252890

Why don't you just tell us what you think happened here and why?

Your current approach it making you sound like an idiot who just discovered that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>133254553
I usually don't because my laptop and microwave take up the plugs near the bathtub
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>>133254408
I only took classes up to solid state I am not an engineer, fucking dickhead. I suppose now you're going to tell me the heart does not work via electric pulse.
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>>133252059
>she
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>>133254425
oh, incase of a failed cheap chineesium charger the circuit breaker likly wont trip ever

you need like a 50-100 amp short to trip it

a toaster is a whole other case
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>>133253398
>less than 1
k
+-30 mA
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>>133254408
You're mentally retarded. I know you probably have some EE degree from some useless eurocuck institution, but you're just out here to tell everyone they're wrong without actually being able to explain anything yourself.
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>>133255016
82ndpbp
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>>133254872
That's not how parenting works. You'd probably be a terrible father that'd let your kids walk all over you and turn into degenerate whores.
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>>133253878
>Amps is a measurement of the rate of electrons passing a given point.

So the measurement of "push" past a certain point.

Do you even naive analogy ever?
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>>133254929
Christ. I could do the same with your fucking height, accuracy of eye sight or the area of your shadow. Don't be a retard.
>Voltage is only relevant insofar as the current it creates in combination with resistance.
That's a really impressive way of saying U=RI. By impressive I mean not at all impressive.
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>>133252059
Good

Roasties have no value, they only take and destroy
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>>133254756
That's the only kind of phone I would pay for... but like the other guy said, I have a rule, she can get a phone when she can pay for it herself.
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>>133252059
>She was very smart
>Female
>Kills herself in a fucking bathtub
I mean how much evidence do you need
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>>133252059
>>>/trash/
Who cares?
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>>133252629
>he can't sense sarcasm
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>>133252059
>you will never walk in on your dead naked teen daughter
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moar pics of girl plox
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>>133253398
>It's not the volts that kill you, it's the amps, and it takes less than 1 to stop your heart.

if it's alternating current. direct current from a transformer is different.
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>>133255125
I could tell you about ions, membranes and diffusion, but you wouldn't understand, so why bother? I acknowledge that electricity is involved, since it usually is with nature, but it's way too simplistic to say something like a muscle "works by current".
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>>133252747
>I've tested that one
because you tripped the GFCI dingdong.
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If I licked my phone charger would I die?
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>>133252059
wait your phone charger can electrocute you?! I never thought those small things could deliver that much power
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How did the breaker not blow before allowing that much power through?
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>>133252059
WTF!
>Her phone charger was plugged into a bathroom outlet
Americans aren't dumb enough to have sockets in the bathroom surely to God?
Everywhere else on Earth their are only those gay two pin safety sockets for shavers.
How deeply dumb.
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>>133255195

Voltage is synonymous with electromotive force. From what I gathered Anon was inferring was that Amps is a measurement of force and not voltage, which is still incorrect regardless of a bad analogy. As far as I know rates and force measurements are quite distinct in purpose.
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>>133255553
Curious on what your women do for hair dryers
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>>133252265
you know that it takes less than 300mA to kill you
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>>133255553
*there
(How deeply dumb. DOH!)
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>>133255553
>those outlet plugs
Those are definitely not Americans
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>>133254926
Before smartphones, you had to think tactically about going places, especially as a penniless teenager. You had to organize with your parents when and where you wanted to be picked up. You had to know about landmarks, the best place to stand so your parents could see you, how to avoid punk teenagers... Because if you got into a fight, no one was coming to save you. You learned about situational awareness, land navigation, when to be visible and when not to be. How to use the terrain to your advantage. You had to be aware of landmarks like buildings and mountains and other shit like that and you had to clearly describe these things to your parents so you could get picked up from the movies or what ever... This was basic shit.

Now you can just text. Smartphones killed off an entire skill set.
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>>133253291
I bet Pablo did wiring there
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>>133254901
absolutely. I think this is already a documented phenomenon, in terms of political views and xenophobic tendencies. I know women get more racist when they're ovulating and they're at high risk of getting pregnant.

I'll have to see if I can find more info on this
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>>133255708
Did she plug the charger straight to her heart? Hardcore.
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>>133254872
Tell me how to works out when your 11 year old is meeting guys off Tinder.
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>>133255553
Protective earth LEL
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>>133255514
I'm ignoring the shitposting argument going on in this thread, so maybe this has been brought up. It was probably cheap chinese shit that shorted out in the water, thus delivering her the wall current. That can sort of paralyze a person and maybe she slid under water.

Just my guess.
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>>133254157
underrated
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>>133253398
>amp is force
God damn...this country is fucking doomed
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>>133255689
Not use them in the bathroom.
I'm not kidding, if you ever travel you'll see for yourself.
You should start litigating because I swear if like a hotel had three pin sockets in the bathroom over here it would be shut down.
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>>133255553
Not America, more like germany or something.
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Rumor has it Mike Pence was seen fleeing the scene with a pair of jumper cables, A car battery and a transcript of a Lesbian sexting session
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>>133252059
>bathroom outlet

Why would you have any sockets in your bathroom especially in close enough proximity to a source of water. the fuck.

I'v heard of shaver sockets in bathrooms, but outlets that phones can plug into? asking for retards to electrocute themselves
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>>133255553
Well, then there's South America. This is how they heat their water.
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>>133255200
Did I ever deny ohm's law? Guy A. says to you "voltage kills, not current", you say "BUT.. BUT.. VOLTAGE IS PROPORTIONAL TO CURRENT". My dick size is the proportional to your mum's orgasms but it isn't the sole determining factor.
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>>133252059
>>133255390

>imagine being the paramedic seeing her naked at the tub
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>>133253398
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>>133252059
>She just loved life
lmao who can love live really, it's a cursed place this Earth. F anyway.
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>>133254157
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>>133253520
Sometimes I browse /pol/ or whatever with my laptop while I stew in the bath.

I will probably stop doing that now.
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>>133256105
>what is a gfci socket
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>>133253221
>"He had a IQ of 110, cholesterol of 180 mg/dL, $4,825 in his primary checking account, and volunteered 26 hours so far this year. He was quantifiably a decent person."

rolls right off the old fart box puncher
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>>133254872
All kids hate their parents. Youre not their friends and shouldnt try to be
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what does this have to do with politics
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>>133256168
life*
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>>133256105
You have different outlets for shavers? Here in the US we normally have 2 outlets next to the sink but the sink normally isn't close enough to the tub for a standard phone charger to reach.
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>>133255850
Im gonna plug my benis directly into your boipussy
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>>133253917
Think of electricity like water passing through a hose. Depending on how much pressure is applied determines how fast the water moves through the hose. The amps would be that force.
You could have a million gallons dribbling out of a hose, but unless it is pushed with a certain amount of force it is fairly harmless.
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>>133255200
And also, by the way, you are such a fucking wasteman talking about height of a specific thing or area of a specific thing, we are talking about fucking dimensional analysis.

Amperes are proportional to newtons faggot.
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>>133256119
You tried to appear knowledgeable by nitpicking on something that actually was correct, and you got called out to be the retard that you are.
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Its impossible for her to die from just 5-9V. Average human has a bidy resistance of 1.5-2k Ohm which means she got hit by roughly 2.5mA-3mA.

And usually till 50V you can basically call it save. She probably got killed because the charger was defunct and the power output was probably at 120-230V
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>>133256105
>I'v heard of shaver sockets in bathrooms
Why would you have a different socket just so some retard doesn't kill himself?
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>>133254841
Fair enough, man. That's your money. But it's not just the pedos... It's the access to information. Your kid will have 24/7 access to the most degenerate shit that the Internet has to offer. Having been here on 4chan since 2005, I know how bad it can get and I just want my kids to live a few years without having to digest all of this stuff. Let them be kids and do kid stuff.
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>>133256042
>over here

Where exactly? They have outlets in bathrooms in South America, well Peru and Ecuador anyway.
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>>133256180
Those are nice to have.
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>>133254469
Congratulation leaf, you're going to turn your daughter into a resentful social outcast. Girls will make fun of her for being an outdated weirdo who doesn't involve herself with technology. Her only friends will be other weirdos like her. Enjoy your future 4chan user or little whore who turns rebellious and against you once she gets older.
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>>133256327
Save a live, bin that electrical socket
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>>133256300
No, the voltage would be that force if you want to use that analogy. Ampers would be the velocity of the fluid.
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>>133252059

>"I call her my shining star"

Oh I bet she was shining all right.
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>>133253398
Can't stand this normie science meme.
Volts don't exist without amps and vice versa.
Your "current" reasoning is not why people survive lightning strikes.
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>>133252059
>bathroom outlet.
>bathroom
>outlet.

The fuck? Americans put electrical outlets in their bathrooms? Well there's your fucking problem.

I gotta say, I don't often give thanks for being British these days but it is nice to live in a country that isn't retarded enough to put electrical outlets next to running water.
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>>133256309
>Amperes are proportional to newtons faggot.
Well no fucking shit? You fail at dimensional analysis, by the way, if that's what you think it is. Let me give you a hint: Everything is proportional to everything in physics. If you ignore the dimensionality completely, which is what you've done in your great retardation. Just fuck off already. You're stupid and not worth my time.
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>>133256559
Women don't blowdry their hair in the UK?
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>>133254960
The voltages in both the phone and the USB cable are too low to be able to kill a person, even if they are in a tub, the only high voltage part of the circuit is inside the power brick. The only way this could have happened is if the charger somehow malfunctioned and sent 110 volts to the phone.
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>>133256221
>>"He had a IQ of 110, cholesterol of 180 mg/dL, $4,825 in his primary checking account, and volunteered 26 hours so far this year. He was quantifiably a decent person."

I wish all news are mandated to be like this. Trump must make it happen.
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>>133256310
Did you ignore the graph that I just showed that shows your heart only stops between a certain ampere range regardless of voltage?

He said:
>It's not the volts that kill you, it's the amps

And you said
>That's quite literally the most retarded thing anyone has said on this thread. A hint: I = U / R

By the way, I don't know where you fucking learnt physics but V is the SI notation for potential difference.

You are claiming that because I is proportional to V, that means you can just completely disregard R and that V is the only thing we care about.

Except that's demonstrably not true from the graph I'm linking a second time now. If the voltage pushes you over or under that range of death from current, you potentially won't die.
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>>133256559
>outlets next to running water
Do you have outlets in your kitchen?
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>>133254157

Da burgie gets it
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>>133252059
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desu this is a shitty, stupid, and tragic way to die.

Imagine being a parent and seeing your daughter dead in a bathtub because of a phone charger
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Damn, so many (yous) and I didn't even try. I should listen to mythbusters more.
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Finnish people are getting more and more obnoxious. Time to get rid of these fucking mongoloids in white skins.
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>>133252059
I bet the parents played with the body.
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>>133256261

yes. we have 2 pronged outlets for shavers since our regular plugs are 3 prongs you can't plug anything but shavers into them. well I mean you can get an adaptor maybe but that's extra, it's not meant to be that way.
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>>133254276

>AC current

Why not just write "alternating current" instead of "alternating current current"?
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>>133256106
Somewhere you've stayed?
If North Americans are plugging appliances in in the bathroom (presumably so they can toast waffles and watch TV in the bath) then I'm not surprised that in South America their bathrooms are auschwittz style extermination rooms.
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>>133256881

Here's another my obese comrade, praise white Jesus
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>>133256943
Do blowdryers and hair straighteners also come 2 prong?
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>>133256761
>Did you ignore the graph that I just showed that shows your heart only stops between a certain ampere range regardless of voltage?
Yes, I'm trying my best to ignore everything you say, since doing otherwise would probably severely lower my IQ. Go electrocute yourself with zero volts. Try to muster up those ampers that way. Or, let's make it easier, I'll give you one volt to kill yourself.

I don't bother to read the rest of your message, since that leddit spacing just shows you're one of those simultaneusly ignorant and condescending pricks.
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>>133252059
So Merkins can't even mandatory installation of RCD's in any home being sold?

>tfw for $100 a sparky could've saved her life years ago...
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>>133256974

> when being a smart ass on the internet is the only thing you have in life

that and being born in Slavica (umbrella term for all slavic shitholes) , i feel for you toilet-cleaner
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>>133255753
>>133256062
How does it feel to be this fucking new? Jesus Christ did you come to this site yesterday and now think you're ready to post?
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>>133256344
Europe.
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>>133256539
What is your current reason then? Was there another before? Expecting a new one?
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>>133252059
This has nothing to do with saving Western civilization (the only political topic that matters right now)

Take your women hating shit back to /r9k/. You faggots have been ruining /pol/ for too long. They are NOT the same board and rarely share the same topics. Get. The. Fuck. Out. Non-normie.
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For all the idiots who think this impossible, there is a well documented case of a technician who was killed by a battery powered multimeter, of this type, when he tried to measure the resistance of his body.

Under the right conditions, very little will stop the heart. On the other hand, people have been hit was nasty shit like 440V and even transmission levels and survived (although with some charring and being fucked up for life).
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>>133256870
How else are you legally going to see a dead naked 14 year old girl?
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>>133256327

Why risk someone electrocuting themselves unnecessarily? why do you need a socket in the bathroom so badly?
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>>133256627
Oh that's interesting. Is hypercharge proportional to specific heat capacity?

Is refractive index proportional to mass?

Current is a fucking attraction between wires you faggot. Hmm, how do things attract? What would we call it when things attract? Really confuzzles my noggin.
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>>133252423

People assume government wouldn't just let chinks sell lethal trash in their country.

They assume wrong, destroying the white industrial base is much more important than safety standards after all.
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>>133256422
Oh no, a Venezuelan is lecturing me on parenting from a nation that dwarfs US murder rates, not just by capita but in terms of raw numbers. I am ashamed of myself because, as a nation, Venezuelans parenting skills, which translate into its stable society, is beyond reproach.

Fuck off Paco.
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>>133256656

in their bedrooms, not in the bathroom with outlets next to large sources of water.
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>>133252059
You never hear people say,
they were stupid and deserved to die.
just want to read that once
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>>133254105
underrated
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>>133257224
>Current is a fucking attraction between wires you faggot.
Oh, moving the goal posts now, are we? Got proven to be too wrong? Funny thing, though, since I already mentioned "unless talking about magnetism". You move the goal posts, and still you lose. Damn.
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>>133257259

how are chinks to blame for one stupid white girls actions
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>>133257200
Freedom
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>>133253046
I was think the same thing
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>>133257017
But..im Not fat, I'm just big boned. And also a deist otherkin. Not sure of what, probably gonna go with electricity since I know so much about it.
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>>133257066
lol, implying I ever said that zero volts could kill you. You were debating whether 9 volts will kill you. That entirely depends on resistance. You're an imbecile on full damage control. Get the fuck out of my (you)s.
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>>133257132
I got hit by 20k once from condensator of a tesla coil we built that didnt fully discharge yet. Shit hurt as fuck.
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>>133257132
>there is a well documented case of a technician who was killed by a battery powered multimeter
no
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How many power plugs do you have in your kitchens?

I have 11 in my 160sqft kitchen
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>>133253162
Amps kill.
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>>133257200
What the fuck is your concern? The sink doesnt pour into a fucking outlet. Do people not blowdry their hair? Charge electric razors? Curl their hair?

Theres nothing fucking wrong or dangerous about having an outlet in a bathroom ffs
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>>133257407
>That entirely depends on resistance.
Well no fucking shit? Are you saying... let me get this staright... Are you saying that... can't be... You're saying U = RI?!? WHAT?!?! Holy shit, that blew my mind. Or, you know, since that's exactly what I said in my first message, it didn't blow my mind. Your stupidity did give me an aneyrusm, though, so that's almost the same.
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>>133252265

OC
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>>133252059
>"She was very smart, a very good student in school.

yeah.. sure thing bud
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>>133257066
Also, faggot, I see you bought the "reddit spacing" meme but didn't quite understand it.

Reddit spacing refers to lines in between greentext/implications and linking, it doesn't refer to spacing to leave room to read between lines.

Leddit requires users to double carriage return after they quote shit, so ledditors come here and double carriage return after a quote. It has literally nothing to do with having good spacing.
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>>133256775

Outlets in kitchens legally have to be a certain distance away from a source of water, i.e the kitchen sink. I think 300mm
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>>133252059
They murdered her
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>>133257078

>projecting this hard
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>>133255553
Wait a minute. That isn't an U.S. style electrical outlet anyway. I call BS
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>>133254920
>3.2 GPA
>good
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>>133253735
5V with low amperage from a USB charder won't do shit. Even if it could, bathrooms have GFCI outlets that are designed to pop in such an event.
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There's usually a thread for chink shit on /g. The product was probably listed
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>>133257643
>It has literally nothing to do with having good spacing.
You're supposed to use line breaks between paragrahs, not between every sentence. That's reddit spacing, which is quite clearly where you're from, since you're so educated on the matter.
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>>133257132

Hand to hand, punctured skin on both, apocryphal.

I can stab my hand on a knife electrically connected to an isolated 5V power supply standing with my feet in the ocean and it won't do a damn thing, no return path.
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I've had a couple of big shocks putting lines on to bypass meters.
I went through a phase of this as a teen, when I first left home and I could never remember whether (out of the four nodes) you join the two inside ones or the two outside ones.
You end up black as a nignog (hard to wash off too) and flying across the room.
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>>133252059
>>133252265
>>133252423
NOWADAYS PHONES ARE ADVERTISED AS WATER RESISTANT, YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS

YOU'RE HAPPY A YOUNG, FERTILE, BLONDE, WHITE TEXAN WOMAN DIED?

IN A 40% WHITE TEXAS?
WHERE OVER 81% OF BIRTHS ARE NON-WHITE?
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>>133257623
This is ace!
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>>133257754
you'd be surprised how many houses don't have GFCI code in the bathroom still today
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>>133257568
Yes, so the guy was entirely right to say that current kills you, not voltage, and entirely right to call people on talking about "what voltage would kill you", which is meaningless in a vacuum because voltage doesn't kill you.

It's like saing "what force would kill you" when it's rate of change of acceleration that kills you. Yes, they are linked, but it is also completely fallacious to say that one is responsible for death.

5V will not kill anyone with sufficiently high or low resistance, so it is meaningless to talk about it as a killer.
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>>133252059

I remember once using a hair dryer in the shower and a spark jumped out because I got it too close to the water stream. Scared me to death. After getting out, I read the warning label.
Wish they'd make things like this CLEAR!! I could have died.
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>>133257055
don't know, I don't use them.
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>>133252423
people turn into such insincere virtue-signalling monsters when someone dies
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>>133252857
14 year olds these days are sluts bro
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>>133257643
>>133257810
youre both faggots and should electrocute yourselves
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>>133257908
Yes, because she would have just made more non-white births
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>>133257411
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-50.html

You were saying? He broke the skin with the probes, so the low resistance made the battery current more than enough to trigger cardiac arrest.

BTFO.
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>>133252059
>She was very smart

Apparently she wasn't.
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Imagine being the dude she was snapchatting at the time and you have no proof, can't tell anyone that you were the last person she ever spoke to
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>>133258075
That's kinda depressing
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>>133257985
Kek
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>>133257372

A proper isolated low voltage power supply can not burn your hand, wet or not doesn't matter, nor can it hurt you unless both outputs gets a blood to blood connection on two separate extremities.

There is a reason low voltage power is not treated as dangerous, because it's not dangerous except in the most ludicrous of circumstances.
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Its because she it was plugged in right? Ive dropped a phone in the bath and ruined the phone but didnt even feel a shock.
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>>133252059
I don't see how this happened. The voltage would have only been like 6vdc. Somebody murdered her
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>>133255553
Yeah, looks like a "Type F" plug. Europe or Russia.
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>>133257503

>Theres nothing fucking wrong or dangerous about having an outlet in a bathroom ffs


>>133252059
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>>133252059

Congratulations Madison!, you have won today's Darwin award.
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>>133257810
I'm not "supposed" to do anything, look at any 4plebs archive from before when reddit existed and you will see people formatting their posts like this. Then go lurk leddit and you will see people posting big paragraphs instead of leaning lines between sentences.

It is entirely nothing to do with the format of the site and entirely to do with how you personally write. Reddit spacing is after greentext, go back to /x/ with your "everyone who disagrees with me is a shill" posts.
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>>133257968
>es, so the guy was entirely right to say that current kills you, not voltage
Except he wasn't, since it's not what kills you. As others have pointed out, microscopic current can kill you. What kills you is disturbing your heart enough to stop it.
>meaningless in a vacuum because voltage doesn't kill you.
There is this thing called vacuum tubes. Used to be a big deal.
>5V will not kill anyone with sufficiently high or low resistance, so it is meaningless to talk about it as a killer.
I'm glad we agree. I never claimed anything is a killer. The only thing I said about the subject is that she probably had a heart condition.
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>>133257725
Sure it's not different outdoors?
We have different (big two pin) sockets for outdoors.
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>>133258154
>darwin awards
>unconfirmed
>well documented
no
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>>133252059

Can someone brain meme this
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>>133258230
probably had an extension cord to reach the bath
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>>133252857
>Madison
That's proof enough
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>>133252629
>Austria
>Rural
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>>133252059

>time to cleanse the body with water
>reaches for cell phone, presumably to do nothing of importance
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>>133258221

It was almost certainly because of chinks selling lethal trash.
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>>133252059
>She was very smart
>not able to spend 10-30 minutes without her phone
>using her phone in the bath
>using a plugged in device in the bath
no she fucking wasn't
>She just loved life
why does everyone say this about every fucking under 30 year old whos ever fucking died

if I die before the rest of my family and they spew some fake shit like this and make me out to be something I wasn't I'm going to haunt them
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>>133252857
>staying together for 5 years during teen years

Yeah, no
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>>133257200
Uhm yes? If not then where the fuck else am I supposed to wash my clothes? The outlets are always far away from the nearest water source anyway, so she would probably have died regardless just using an extension cord from the hallway or something in order to do the exact same thing
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>>133254469
Who has kids while they're 18 lol great life choices prob why you're on 4chan right now too.
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>>133258719
Maybe it was a product of growing up in a 99.99% white area then
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>>133258633
>nothing of importance
send pics to jamal
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>>133258324
>There is this thing called vacuum tubes. Used to be a big deal.

What does that have to do with anything?
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>>133252059
Not smart enough apparently.
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>>133258230
this. I've dropped my phone in the shower multiple times as I'm fapping. No way it is enough to kill you.
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>>133252059
>"She was very smart, a very good student in school. She just loved life," O'Guinn said.

How low do you have to be to make sarcastic comments about your daughters death?
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>>133258740

People who want kids without autism?
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>>133252265
This guy is right and all the retards replying to him should have stayed in school.
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>>133256321

If a charger has more volts that means it charges faster, right ?
XDD
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>>133253046
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>>133257132
>>133258154
Except it would be extremely hard to replicate the same punctured skin scenario with a phone connected to a charger (it would have to puncture both hands to go through the heart), but even if it did happen, it wouldn't leave a burn mark, which the parents supposed saw on their daughter's hand.
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>>133258230
I'd farmer bet that it was because it was a chinkshit charger with poor design, i.e. the output was not isolated from the wall power input and once the output was shorted in water the device failed and dumped AC on the line.
This isn't the first time I've heard of someone dying because of a chinky charger either. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10929662/Woman-in-Australia-killed-by-cheap-phone-charger.html
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>>133254929

So does 0.2 to 1.0 not kill???
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>>133257753
3.2 is good. 2.0 is the minimum before they boot you out.
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>mfw this entire thread
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>>133258075
No they are not.
More are then should be, yes. Also more are then before, but for the most part, no.
We're supposed to believe it though, so our culture degenerates even more.
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>>133259070
outlets are not that close to the bath
she was probably using an extension cord
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>>133252059

>"family warns of dangers of electricity"

everyone already knows the relationship between electricity, water, and the human body. we dont need a reminder.
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>>133252059
She received the call
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>>133258726

you wash your clothes in the bathroom? what in the bath or something?
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>>133258828
Maybe furious fapping protects you from shock.
You'll have to experiment.
At the least dropping a hairdryer in the bath with you is going to produce an interesting orgasm. Maybe one to die for?
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>>133258726
You don't have a qt latina maid to do it for you?
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>>133252857
Times have already changed, every year it's one year earlier that kids have sex and smoke
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>>133254929
>If it is higher than that it won't kill you

Uhhhhhhh

Let's hook a negrum up to 50,000 volts and see what happens. I'm gonna bet that the negrum will be goodified.
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>>133257101
Where? In Germany we have multiple 220V sockets in the bathroom.
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>>133252059
But... fuse boxes... circuit breakers... plug fuses...
I smell bullshit
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>>133253520
>not shitposting in the shower
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>>133253398
Seriously? I know you're already getting assblasted by Euros but come on.
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>>133252059
I thought bathrooms outlets were required by law to have those little Test and Reset buttons, you know, the kind that trips the same way breakers are supposed to when too much amperage runs through it. Of course I don't claim to be 100% sure that would save her from such a terrible fate, but if it couldn't, then why even bother installing special electrical outlets in bathrooms?
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>>133257125
>Take your women hating
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>>133259565
i'd test it but only fags and women use hairdryers. I'm not starting any rumors.
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>>133258262
I knew you would do that. Obviously suicidal behavior whether intentional or not, doesnt count.

It's like saying it's dangerous to have knifes in the kitchen.
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>>133259250
This is the only way it could happen. The phone itself would definitely not be enough.
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>>133255593
Do you have assburger
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>>133259615
>mfw 2 year olds are smoking ganja and having sex now
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>>133259383
Believe it or not, some people have their washing machine set in the bathroom. Super difficult to imagine, I know.
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>>133254157

Electrical engineer here, this sounds like the most convincing explanation. I don't know the exact design of the power supply vut the AC input was probably connected to the DC output by fault.

What still puzzles me is why the RCCB didn't work. These things are nromally designed to trip within milliseconds in case of an error current so things like electrocuting yourself in the bathtub is more like a meme from a movie or from times when these devices were slow as fuck. This should be investigated as well.
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>>133253398
>It's not the volts that kill you, it's the amps
Nice one. The human eye can only see at 24 fps also.

Fucking retard go back to school.
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>>133255593
just based on ohms law you could make current in terms of force if you really wanted
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>>133259752
Only newish construction has GFCI however. My house was last wired in the early 1970s, and has regular outlets in places like right next to the kitchen sink and bathtub. People back then were expected to have common sense.
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>>133259873

having knives in the kitchen where they belong is the same as have electrics next to water in the bathroom where they belong. really making me think.
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>>133258583
True. That's possible. It would have to be on the 120VAC side. I don't see it being possible after the cell phone chargers rectifier
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>>133257304
Whatever dude, I'm not the one who's gonna end up with a shitty daughter. Just remember that we warned you.
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>>133259282
bogdanov incoming call.jpg
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>>133259941
>when an 8 years old little faggot makes fun of you for being a virgin
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>>133254157
That's the only thing that makes sense.
Any sane electronics have a transformer that steps down high voltage AC to low voltage DC.

I don't think you would even be able to feel 5V DC in a bathtub. You can run it directly through your arm and feel some tingling maybe slight pain.
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>>133259985

I have never seen that. here they are in the kitchen or utility room.
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>>133252059
Wow beautiful young girl that's a real shame. God help her family
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>>133252857
I was at a private Christian school in 2000's, class of 46 people. 12 girls fucked the soccer captain. One chick fucked the whole team. Honestly, like 4 dudes fucked over half the girls in my class. No one stayed together for more than a few months. Soccer captain ends up marrying a naive one that was especially hot. He keeps fucking new girls.

Those dudes are the only ones from my class that have kids yet.

I am married now and working on it. But that's just how the world is.
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>>133254157
Wew somebody gets it. As an engineer it hurts my brain to read all the other stupid shit
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>>133252059
>She was very smart
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>>133260253

a transformer steps down (or up) an AC voltage to a different AC voltage. A transformer has nothing to do with DC.
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All you
>Hurr it was possible!
retards didn't read the story, not only was it impossible, the fucking family said there were burns on her hands from the shock she recieved.

These is no universe in which a phone charger is capable of burning you with 4 volts and 1 amp.

She probably killed herself with a toaster and the family is covering it up to hide their shame.
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Modern phones pull 3-4 Amps at 9 Volts
Your skin conducts more electricity when it's wet
We need more women in STEM so this doesn't happen!
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>>133257908
This.
>>133258148
>Yes, because she would have just made more non-white births
Ok, so let's rejoice for not having that risk! Texas belongs to nogs ant wetbacks then.

(Lubbock is a very ugly and depressing town)
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>>133260451
I know what a transformer does.

The transformer also completely isolates the high voltage AC from the low voltage AC. I don't really care about the low voltage AC because the first thing it goes through is a full wave bridge rectifier to be converted into DC.

You can play with any of the current past a transformer without gloves and be perfectly safe when dealing with low voltages.
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>>133254882
GFCI doesn't shut off fast enough. For an AC shock it will save your life when you are in a bathtub, but if it's already DC then you fucked.
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Cant be an accident...

I think it must be intentional.
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>>133259650
I know. I said I've never seen a normal three pin socket in a bathroom, we have those gay two pin ones for shavers.
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>>133260139
>being obtuse

My point is knives are perfectly fine in the kitchen although you can hurt yourself with them, as well as use electrical products in the bathroom, like millions of people do daily.

As long as you arent juggling knives, or toasting bread in the bath like a retard, you'll probably live to see your grandkids be half-niggers
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>>133256814
Fucking faggots, when the fuck were trannies only 8-10 hot? Go kill yourself.
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>>133260200
She was not prepared for the call
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REMINDER: Voltage doesn't kill you, amperes do!
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>>133260897
same argument could be said on finding a tranny below a 4 on crazy scale
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>>133254157
so it doesn't have a transformer in it?
can you link such a 'design' ?
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>>133261021
Reminder: you can stick a live USB cable in your mouth and barely feel it

It's 4 fucking volts.
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>>133260652
Better for nogs and wetbacks to genocide each other than to genocide whites
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>>133260652
>ant wetbacks
A new form of illegal alien
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>>133260656
For me, the tiny transformers in modern switch-mode power supplies don't inspire the greatest confidence in terms of safety however. Paper thin power supplies with puny transformers for stuff like laptops don't seem as safe as old time massive transformer isolation (like in the massive old linear PS in this 35 year old computer).
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>>133261112
Try again.
It did have a transformer but not proper isolation.

Whenever electricity shorts out in your house usually goes to the ground. If the path for ground happened to be in that bathtub then 120VAC would be dumped directly into the tub during a failure.
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>>133261129
It only takes 0.1A to kill someone, and 0.01A to cause a severe shock.
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>>133261365
Transformers are not directly connected to each other. There is a gap of air and they transfer energy through different winding ratios of coil in the form of magnetism. In most cases if you burned up a transformer it would just simply stop functioning.
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>>133261304
How will we build a wall to keep out Paco the ant? He'll simply tunnel beneath it.
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>>133261548
Wrong. That's like saying you could kill someone with a 30MPH speed limit you retard.
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>>133261548
You're an idiot repeating mantras you have no idea the practical application of.

Sure, passed directly across your heart .1A could kill you, that's clearly not the situation here.

Without the sufficient voltage to bridge your natural resistance, 100 trillion amps wouldn't hurt you.
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>>133260196
How's your revolution going?
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>>133260652
Jewgoy pls go
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>>133252423
THIS
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>>133261831
Yes, but if the dielectric insulation between the windings is shitty chinkshit packed into a tiny space, you could get breakdown between the windings.
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>>133253398
This is why we are FUCKING BETTER THAN YOU
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>>133262472
That would require a failure of both the rectifier and the transformer, what are the odds?
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>>133254929
>It's nothing to do with the skin, faggot amps only kill you because they stop your heart
I see we have a rare specimen of exo-heart brits here.
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