Common Sense Gun Control General

fuck gun control

shall not be infringed

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>>133244056

>>133244166
So you want more innocent people to die because some idiot wants more guns or needs one because the world is exactly like GTA?

>>133244056
COLD

>>133244056
Slide this shill thread.
Shall not be infringed.
Common sense is bullshit subjectivity designed to slowly compromise away god given rights.

>>133244056
It means bringing shooting back to schools so children learn to control their guns.

>>133244056
Common sense is arming law abiding citizens so they can protect themselves from criminals faggot.

The only sensible thing is to neck yourself FAGGOT

>>133244343
When Thomas Jefferson said the liberty tree from time to time would need to be watered with the blood of patriots we wasn't just talking about bloody revolution

>>133244166

*gets shot by non-infringed psychopath*

>>133244056
>im a dumb fucking cuck who swallows more MSM anti gun propaganda than my dad semen at night

listen up dipshit over 2/3s of gun related deaths are SUICIDES and almost all the rest are committed with ILLEGALLY bought firearms.

>he fell for the long gun meme
pistols are the number one killer as it pertains to gun crime.

>bullet control
kill yourself senpai

tldr SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED and actually look at where the problem is instead of inventing new ones

>>133244822
Pretty much this.

>>133244471

Common sense is having a modern civilized society, not the wild west. Of course, most Americans lack common sense.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
now go fuck yourself

>Hollow point ammunition is also going be removed too.

>Ban bullets that actually stop in their targets rather than going right through and hitting innocent bystanders

Common sense, everyone.

>>133244056
>5.56 is dangerours
its a meme round designed for wounding more than killing, same with .223

>>133244954

>modern civilized society is inherently good

all society is inherently tyrannical armed law abiding citizens mitigate that effect

>>133244056
lolz, ban hollow point. Be ok with killing neighbors during home invasion.

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>>133244056
>You don't need a 5.56 because it is military grade

Tell that to Germany right now or France.

>>133244056
We cannot allow the bloody neo-marxist to roll back any one of our bill of rights. If any one of the founding fathers vision for the country is rolled back, then all of our country is at stake.

fuck gun grabbers
debate me on gun control right now

>>133244056
OP is a faggot. saged and hidden

>>133244056
If you hate guns so much pass a fucking amendment. All you are doing by ignoring the second amendment (shall not be infringed) is weakening the bill of rights as a whole. The tenth amendment is already dead for all intents and purposes (lets see where the constitution gives the central government the right to legislate abortion, healthcare, marriage, and education), and the first and fourth amendments are being increasingly weakened.

But sure rule of law is tedious lets just ignore laws we don't like, there is no way this can go wrong.

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>>133244056
Fuck off nigger.

>>133244056
Imo it means people with serious mental illness that could result in loss of touch with reality and violence and people with criminal convictions for violent crimes shouldn't be able to buy guns.

Anything more is an overreach.

>>133244056
>banning all rounds that are bigger/more powerful than a 9mm. You don't need a 5.56

You are a fucking dolt. 5.56 is smaller than 9mm

Sage

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>>133244056
I am announcing the formation of the 4chan militia.

>By reading this you have agreed to joining.

>>133244954
European Caliphate degenerate advocates for making people defenseless in their own homes, what a surprise.

>>133245129
>designed for wounding

It's designed to make terrible wounds though. Watch the way it tumbles in ballistic jelly, wrecking internal organs, as opposed to the raw hydrostatic shock of a larger round.

No civilian should be permitted to carry such a vile weapon of torture and destruction.

A 12 guage for home defence and a scoped 5 shot bolt action for hunting is all your average Joe needs.

This isn't the movies where they say "it's an in and out in fine" a FMJ will most likely pass through leaving two holes to bleed out of.

>>133244343
>implying
so you want more people to die because they couldn't defend themselves from attackers?
>>133245129
t. noguns
>>133244954
>common sense is having a false sense of security and deluding yourself that you don't live in the real world and aren't threatened by any real danger ever and you are immortal

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Common sense gun control is putting a bullet in the head's of commie fucks like you

>>133245418
Well that is going to happen come 2020. Trump is going to lose horribly because of what Jr. tweeted today.

Warren and Booker live in a state where common sense gun control has saved so many lives.

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>>133244343

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>You don't need a 5.56 because it is military grade. It's too powerful and too deadly.
>It's too powerful and too deadly.


5.56 is a baby round that is barely capable of downing a doe. Why are gun control faggots always so retarded? Why are they they all incapable of doing 5 minutes of research on the topic before they spout their useless opinions?

Pic related, the big bullet on the right is a common deer hunting round.

>>133244056
Except you can't hunt deer with 9mm, bootlick cunt!

>>133245555
>a shotgun and a bolt action
fuck off fudd

>>133244056
The only real common sense gun legislations are background checks, compulsory safety training, mental health check and a universal firearm registry (which is what's really lacking in the US, but which is probably not implementable at this point) that keeps track of owners and purchasers, with the obligation to communicate if a gun is sold, even privately

>>133245555
>neeeeeeeeeeds
what is the fucking difference if it tumbles or not the nigger is still going to be dead at the end of the day

Oh, the daily anti-civil liberty thread by some leftist cunt.
All you do is remind me thought I ought to join the NRA and stock up on ammunition.
I just want you to know that you're what's wrong with America and you're the reason I'm going for a CCW.
https://youtu.be/skCnwy0U6NI

>>133245647
>Trump will lose this time because of a tweet

you fags really dont get it do you?

You say all this like the only place to buy rounds is a gun store or walmart. Hand loading 5.56 is not difficult.

Once a bullet becomes as popular are the 5.56 or 7.62 you can never "remove" it from existence.

The genie is out of the bottle and rounds like the FN 5.7x28mm are smaller than the 9mm but in many ways a better round. Trying to get rid of "bigger/more powerful than a 9mm" only opens the world to innovation and more gun sales.

Also, SHALL NOT INFRINGE.

>>133245673
>5.56 is a baby round that is barely capable of downing a doe

Step forward then jackass. We'll test your opinion with a single 5.56 to the chest.

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>>133245772

>>133245673
>5.56 is a baby round that is barely capable of downing a doe
>barely capable of downing a doe
you're a terrible shooter lmoa

>>133245748
Private sales are going to be illegal.

yes man gun control works wonders
since brazil banned guns we have literally ZERO gun related crimes. it feels so good knowing all the criminals stopped buying guns because we don't sell them anymore. when will america learn?
>

>>133245673
They don't know shit about guns, they don't care to learn they are proud of their ignorance.

>>133244954
When your government eventually becomes corrupt you will be powerless. This is the reason Americans can have guns, to be able to stop a theoretically corrupt tyrannical government. Finland can fall like every other country.

>>133244056
So all the criminals who get guns are going to go through all of this?

>>133245849
>falling for the (((Five seveN))) meme
nice meme

>>133245935
*Norway

>>133245798
Well junior just admitted that he colluded with the Russian government so...

>>133245920
/thread

>>133244343
Innocent people die all the time, fuck nut. It's not an argument (to quote your favorite philosopher). People die from driving, should we ban cars because innocents die? How about leisure driving, since it's not necessary?

Come to think of it, driving will be banned in ten years, lol.

>>133244056
>it's common sense 'cause my side says so
Another 'leftists know what's best for everybody regarding everything even though they clearly never know what they're talking about, especially when it comes to firearms' thread?! Yay! I bet that won't stop him from telling us what's best for us though. Let's find out...

>>133244056
5.56 ain't deadly. that's why the military uses it.
It's not to kill, but to maime.

>>133245555
All FMJ rounds can yaw and tumble. It's not unique to 5.56.

>>133245903
they can be legal imo, as long as there is an official record of who sold the gun and who bought it.
Otherwise yea, just make it illegal to sell to a private person, but make it so that people can sell their old guns to gunshops. Easier to keep track of, and still allows people to get rid of unwanted guns

>>133245555
Elmer Fudd detected.

5.56 is a pissant round that is barely able to wound effectively. The only reason the military uses it so heavily is because of it's size they can carry more ammunition, allowing soldiers to shoot longer. A 7.62x51 or .30-06 are far more effective at killing, but also far heavier.

>>133245555
>you don't need an AR, just use a hunting rifle
Good idea. The military taught me how to hunt people from over 1000m away with a bolt action with an integral 5 round magazine.

>>133245748
commie
the only regulation guns should have should be quality assurance in the factory
faggot

Better not infringe Jamal's right to own a MAC-11, he's part of the well regulated militia.

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>>133244056

See if you can take it, fuckboi

BTW: I already stockpiled back in 2008 because I saw that jigaboo winning.

>>133244056
>We will require you to go through a NICS check to buy ammunition of any kind, or present your Firearms ID.
>We
What who are you? Are you part of this organization that is doing this?
Kys faggot

>>133244343
Okay lets ban pools because people drown, you don't need to have a pool in your back yard that's what the public pools are for, plus they have life guards to protect you.
Lets also ban personal vehicles don't want you to get in an accident and die. Of course you can always use public transport or you can just hire some professional to drive you around. It's only common sense.
We should also just make it against the law to kill someone that will stop people from doing that.

>>133244343

Absolutely.

>The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

>>133246106
t. noguns.

>>133244056
Fuck off, european proxy cunt, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>133244056
Common sense is what tells you that the world is flat, that you are a good person, and that the homeless don't deserve your help.

Everyone's intelligence is reduced when we think in groups. This is a very well studied phenomenon. Think for yourself.

>>133245883
How about we test a .30-06 round to the chest on you, since you seem to think massive hydrostatic shock from a soft point hunting round to the chest isn't as effective as the big bad scary baby killing 5.56 bullet?

This is so laughable. One question would you rob someone if you knew they had a gun? If your answer if yes when your shot don't you low key deserve to die? Isnt it like modern day darwinism?

>>133246159
>huur commie
>huur faggot
Ok spic. First world countries are talking, now shush

>>133246231

This is California law as of Jan 1, 2018.

>>133244056

Sounds like literally COMMUNISM to me

>>133246160
he has a right to own it (provided he's not a convicted felon) but if he tries to do something illegal with it, he'll get shot down by other gun carrying, law abiding citizens

>>133246160
Except you need a $20000 tax stamp to buy such an item. As full autos are pretty much illegal. Maybe don't talk about shit you know nothing about Mr Patel.

NRA shills out in full force on /pol/ today

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>>133246160
Do you really think Jamal bought his mac-11 at a gun store?

>>133246253
Those things you mentioned have actual uses.

Guns are not tools, they are weapons by design.

>>133245990
>a non government official and private US citizen works with Russian Officals regarding the DNC leaks and Hilary Clintons Email scandal to get to the bottom of the MSM allegations over Russian involvement

oh so you hate transparency. I see.

>>133245965
Be my guess to bite a 5.7 and see how much a meme it is.

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>>133244056
>Common sense is banning all rounds that are bigger/more powerful than a 9mm

>>133246372
ok ahmed, whatever you say

>>133245990
>junior
>not senior
Ding Ding Ding
Retard Alert

>>133246423
OP must be young and not remember the north Hollywood shootout where the bad guys with better guns and body armor raped the cops that only had 9mm

>>133246160
He does have that right actually, as long as he isn't a felon.

>>133246479
Think you should read the email again, buddy.

>>133245673
>All 5.56 ammo has the same ballistic characteristics.

>>133246423

$200 and current M10/11 prices are about $5k. About 10 years ago you could get one for under $1k.

>>133246160

Absolutely. If Jamal acts violent against me, I'll put him in the ground or get killed trying. Otherwise, live and let live. Black on Black crime is not my concern.

>>133246537
He colluded with the campaign you idiot.

>>133246434
What do you guys care your people are already getting "ENRICHED" because you can not defend yourselves.

>>133246455
I can use a gun as a hammer, or bookend, or a paper weight, or anything else I can dream up. Your argument is shit.

>>133244056
>This is what common sense gun control is.

But what you wrote is some libshit's insane pipe dream. If you want some common sense regulations, check my flag, we have bretty gud laws.

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Ban cars they kill 10 times more people then the 5.56.

When someone shoots and kills someone else its normally intentionally.

When a driver kills someone with a car it is normally accidentally.

>ban cars.

Cars are now only available to government agents as they are deemed to dangerous for the citizins.

How exactly do you justify owning a 140 mile an hour death machine?

>>133246434
You want people to have less rights. You want people to be unable to defend themselves. Your complaining that people are sticking up for their rights. Pathetic bootlicker.

>>133246692
>Using a gun as a paperweight.

You could just use a brick or your phone like a normal person...

>>133246451
Finally common sense. Wtf if you restrict the gun that can be bought by law abiding citizens all your doing is onyl arming the police and the asshats who still buy the guns online. Disarm the major population and watch the gun violence sky rocket.

>>133246523
You present no arguments as to why my points are wrong, other than autistic screeching. I'm not against gun ownership, quite the contrary. I just don't want to give shitskins and even easier time acquiring guns, while allowing normal people to easily get them. Notice that I never mentioned the need for licencing or anuthing of that nature.
You'd understand that if your average IQ wasn't 79

>>133246423
>It's illegal!
>So criminals can't get it illegally!
Are your teeth growing through your skull and into your brain?

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>>133244056
>5.56 is banned because it is a military grade round
And people in the military carry around 9m all the time. A tool is a tool dumbass, it doesn't matter who is using it.

>Can't have a CCW or an open carry license
Then what the fuck do you do with your gun in the case of an emergency? Run back to your house and get it out of your safe when there is someone shooting up the shopping mall you're in?

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>>133244056
>You don't need a 5.56 because it is military grade.
> Hollow point ammunition is also going be removed too.
It's bait, right?

>For a CCW, forget about it. Nobody besides law enforcement should be able to have one.
>Open carry is also banned nationwide except to law enforcement.
So body cavity carry only. Are you a swede?

>>133246751
Ok? It doesn't mean that the gun can also be used a paperweight.

>>133246624
The heaviest 75gr. soft point 5.56 bullet doesn't even come close to the performance of a standard ball .30-06 round.

>>133246800
Whites shoot more people than minorities combined.

>>133246565
Funny thing about that it happend the year Predator two was set in. The movie started out with a gun fight where the same thing happens.

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>>133244056

Poor gullible OP thinks gun control actually works

>>133246806
You wait for the police, you know, people trained to use these things?

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>>133246455
A weapon is a tool, a tool for the protection of life.

>>133246894
Are you on fucking drugs?

>>133244056
Fuck off kike totalitarian.

>>133246894
being the majority of the population probably has something to do with that

>>133246455
are you implying tools can't be weapons and weapons are not tools?

>>133246806

Carry "illegally"

>>133244056

There must be a part of "shall not be infringed" that you are unclear on.

What part is that, exactly?

And who the fuck are you to tell me what I "need" to defend my life and the lives of my family?

>>133244056
Eat my shit.

Ohio about to pass a bill that makes carrying concealed in gun free zones legal. Can't wait.

>>133246971
The average police response time in my area is 30+ minutes. Not everyone lives is a shitstain city like you.

>>133246800
>allowing normal people to easily get them
>have to jump through hoops to buy guns
why would the government need a firearm registry if it didn't want to take them away from people at any point, for any reason?
exactly how would that help the average citizen?

>>133245254
We can have that in France

>>133246971

>depending on the government to take care of you

>>133247029
That's a real statistic.

>>133247107
Then maybe you should move to a city instead of the backwards ass south?

>>133246804
Fuck you I'm on your side you godamm moron. The guy i was replying to seems to think that crims can easily buy a mac11 in a gun store like it's gta or someshit. I was calling him out for being a retard, retard.

I like /pol/ all races just insult each other. My turn why the fuck is anyone in this thread not american. Were talking about american policies right?? So get your fucking assess back in your own country yea??? because desu you're opinion on my country on our laws are shit. And not wanted

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>>133245673
>5.56 is a baby round that is barely capable of downing a doe

You are legitimately fucking retarded

>>133244056
I won't relinquish my abigbomb4u™ recreational Big Willie™ 50 megaton nuclear bomb. I plan to detonate it during new year celebrations.

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>>133246971
I am trained to use one shit for brains, so that argument is invalid. Just as well, do you really consider it reasonable to wait as multiple people are killed because police response times are shit? This isn't the fucking middle ages where people used swords and the guards around the corner could get there on time. When the bad guy has a gun he can easily kill 20+ people in a crowded area before cops show unless someone stops him.

>>133246971
the police are too slow and gun owners ARE trained in most cases

>>133245983
Thank you.

>>133247193
How about you grow up and learn to deal with the fact that owning guns is a protected constitutional right in the USA and none of your autistic liberal whining and crying is going to change that fact?

>>133247279
No he's not, I'm a game warden and we don't allow calibers under .243 for deer season because .223 has a much greater propensity for wounding and not killing a deer

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>>133247064
You can damn well be sure I would, especially since I live near a nigger infested hellhole.

Common sense: Small firearms are commonly used in crime because they are light and concealable. If the purpose of gun control is to prevent crime then it should seek to make small guns illegal while encouraging citizens to own sniper rifles and rocket launchers, which are not compatible with petty crime but serve the purpose cited in the second amendment of defending the people from the tyranny of the government.

((Common sense gun control)): We must ban big guns which are not used in crime but which could potentially be used to fight against the government!!! Because reasons!!!

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>>133244343
2014 correlation between non-Hispanic blacks and homicide rates state by state: 0.789

I've run the numbers with multiple regressions. Gun ownership rates have no predictive value for homicide. It all boils down to race and ethnicity. Not median income. Not number of guns owned. Not population density. Race and ethnicity.

>>133246592
i have and all the articles about it

so tell me how does a private citizen getting access to this information equate to collusion?

the emails say this will help your fathers campaign. the fathers campaign has no evidence of having or using those materials.

>>133244056
0/10.

You'll be lucky if 4 to 8 years from now that we still have any gun control at all. Furthermore, all of the shit you are proposing is both an infringement on second amendment rights and a ridiculous overreaction a non-problem as some dude walking up to you with a gun and shooting you for the hell of it is exceedingly rare. The real problem is the ghetto apes shooting each other over drug money, and none of your proposed controls will stop them from acquiring the weapons they use to commit their crimes.

>>133244056
Heart disease is the number 1 killer of Americans.

Lets ban all junk food and fatty meats because they are unnecessary and are contributors of heart disease.

>>133246971
Here is a story for you
>Live in front of a cop station, cops can literaly walk across the street in 2 minutes if they had to.
>lady next door has kids in her back yard fucking up her fence that then try to break into her house.
>Lady calls the cops.
>20 minutes later the cops have not arrived.
>Me and her son have to fight them they take off.
>10 minutes later the cops show up.
No what if those kids had guns? We would have been fucked, and don't give me that bullshit about taking guns away from legal owners keeps guns off the street because no one is buying that.

>>133247151
>have to jump through hoops to buy guns
What hoops? Can you cite one hoop that is present in my post? I've done a mental evaluation for my permit: it's free and it takes 10 minutes. Same for safety classes.
>why would the government need a firearm registry if it didn't want to take them away from people at any point, for any reason?
First off: not having a registry didn't prevent the US govt. from unlawfully seizing guns during Katrina, so that argument is invalid.
>exactly how would that help the average citizen?
It would help them because it would make it harder for criminals to own guns illegally. It used to be like that in Europe before we had open borders with balkan countries.
>be criminal who can't pass a background check
>get a friend who is clean to buy a gun
>without a registry he can just give it to you
>with a registry he would have to communicate the sale of the gun he just bought, thus making it less likely that a felon can acquire a gun this way

>>133246921
/tv/lurker here, It was a set up for the theme of the story. Where there will always be those who have the better guns (technology) than others, and it's the will to survive and fight back that will Trump those odds. Notice every scene the predator got to show off how fucking badass his tech was that made ours look obsolete, and at the end when the chief gave Glover the flintloxk which means they've been training with us since the 1700s lol.

>>133244954
What we lack in common sense, we make up for with freedom

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>>133247107
the AR-15 has a response time of 3250 feet per second.

>>133244056
The purpose of an armed public is to reinforce the police, not compete with it. The public should embrace the police, and vice-versa. The only difference between a private citizen and a police officer should be a badge and the authority to arrest.

> Ban powerful ammo.
You're in over your head here.

> Prevent stockpiling of ammunition
You're just going to drive it under the table. Make more stringent laws, and it goes underground. Also, what about those who make their own?

>No CCW
The whole point of a compact or subcompact is to carry it concealed. Concealed carry helps to instill doubt and fear into anyone who might otherwise malignantly apply deadly force.

> No open carry
Sounds like California. CA gun laws have done absolutely nothing to prevent or dissuade criminal usage of firearms.

> Background check.
Sure. Just fix the system first. I don't mind felons losing their constitutional rights. The problem we run into, however, is that it seems too easy for just about anyone to be labeled a felon.

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>>133244056

>>133244969
/Thread

If I'm not free enough to purchase a rocket launcher for my personal use then I don't know what freedom is.

>>133247663
>cops arrest you for fighting the dindus

COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL:
before selling the gun make sure the mechanism functions properly and the barrel is up to standard, discard or repair faulty units and ship the rest to be sold and distributed

literally all the ""gun control"" you need.

>>133247279
You aren't even aloud to use .223 to hunt deer with in many states because it's unethical as shit. Having to use overly heavy meme tip bullets just to barely have enough power to kill the deer without it running away is fucking retarded. Yes it's possible, but just use a fucking proper hunting round and leave the 5.56 for the Raccoons and Squirrels where it belongs.

>>133247606
Random question, but do you think they'd shoot each other less if drugs were legal. Like they wouldn't make any money from it so they wouldn't have rivalries over that shit. Or will nigs just nig?

>>133247702
I love predator. To bad the AvPs sucked it had some much potential.

>>133245647
>>Trump is going to lose in 2020 because of some stupid tweet his son made recently.
Fucking lol man, you are powerfully retarded.

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>>133247688
>Preventing citizens from getting guns legally will somehow stop criminals who don't get guns legally in the first place from acquiring them
How?

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>>133244056

>Common sense is banning all rounds that are bigger/more powerful than a 9mm.

For fucks sake, I hate when liberals talk about guns because they know absolutely fucking nothing. I mean you don't even understand what makes a gun dangerous.

Like if Tyrone busted into my house and I could grab a 9mm pistol with a 15 round magazine or a Dirty Harry style .44 magnum revolver with a 6 round cylinder, I'm going to take the 9mm even though its a weaker round because its more than sufficient to kill a man and 15>6.

>You don't need a 5.56 because it is military grade. It's too powerful and too deadly.

5.56 is actually considered too weak by most state governments to legally hunt a deer with because its not powerful enough to reliably kill with one shot in the way that say .30-06 is.

I mean don't you feel self conscious hanging your ass out talking about a topic that you know nothing about?

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>>133244056
>If you pass, you can buy only gun every year. This way, you cannot stockpile ammunition.
Are you retarded or just pretending?

shall not be infringed

>>133247861
allowed*

I'm too tired for this shit

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>>133247688

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>>133244056
How about no. And fuck off.

>>133244056
Go fuck yourself.

>>133244954
The "wild" west was safer than modern times BECAUSE everyone was armed, you stupid retard.

>>133247688
>>get a friend who is clean to buy a gun
>>without a registry he can just give it to you
>>with a registry he would have to communicate the sale of the gun he just bought, thus making it less likely that a felon can acquire a gun this way
what?
i don't think you understand how illegal gun sales happen
guns don't have a tracking chip on them so how the fuck would the government know there's been an illegal transfer unless the dumb nigger up and confessed

also
>First off: not having a registry didn't prevent the US govt. from unlawfully seizing guns during Katrina, so that argument is invalid.
>w-well the safety belt and airbag didn't save john from dying in that car crash so i guess cars shouldn't have any safety features at all ever
dumb desu

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>>133244056
>9mm is not deadly enough to restrict
>10mm is a weapon of mass destruction

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>>133247639
>Heart disease is the number 1 killer of Americans.

>Lets ban all junk food and fatty meats because they are unnecessary and are contributors of heart disease

Yes yes the state should control the food supply and also state mandated physical fitness programs.

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>>133244056
*Ahem*
Kill yourself.

>>133247891
Honestly? At least some of the violence is due to the money that can be made from the illicit sale of narcotics. So yeah, if you ended the drug war you'd see at least some reduction in the homicide rate in urban black areas. That said, nigs are still going to go a nigging to some extent regardless.

>>133244343
>>So you want more innocent people to die
Statistically negligible. Also most countries have harsher gun control laws than what you propose and more gun related Crimes than America.
Go live in the real world.

>>133246202
>Just double feed and stovepipe my shit up the gun

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>>133247805
Luckily Canada is not that cucked...yet. However if had shot them we probably would go to court, but if we but the shit out of them they let it slide..?

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>>133244056
Common sense is banning all fire extinguishers that are bigger/more powerful than a Class A. You don't need a Class B extinguisher because it is designed to put out different kinds of fire. Class C extinguishers will also be removed too.

You can no longer purchase a fire extinguisher without a background check or ID. We will require you to go through a fire extinguisher check to buy ammunition of any kind, or present your fire extinguisher ID.

Now, there are to fire extinguisher ID's. The Personal Class and the Business Class. The Business requires fingerprints, a background check, a medical records release to see if you have ever gotten therapy or diagnosied with a mental illness. After this, you need references who the police will contact and ask questions about your character and health.

If you pass, you can buy only one fire extinguisher every year. THis way, you cannot stockpile fire repellents.

This fire extinguisher permit is the same thing, but separate. However, you need 4 people to vouch for you via phone.

For a fire extinguisher carry permit, forget about it. Nobody besides the fire department should be able to have one. Open carry is also banned nationwide except to the fire department.

This is common sense fire control.

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>>133244343
>Explain picture

>>133244056
kys faggot

I dont even like 5.56 for huntin... too small

Op is b8 faggot

>>133244954
Almost like Norway lacks any relevancy in the modern world both politically and economically.

>>133247784
>speed is a measure of time

burger education

>>133246434

We're out in full force every day faggot, /pol/ is gun country

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>>133247945
>Preventing citizens from getting guns legally
Have you read any of my posts? Or do you just assume stuff? Can you explain me how what I proposed would prevent citizens from legally (and easily) acquiring firearms?
>>133248081
>leaf calling me a leaf
>>133248197
>i don't think you understand how illegal gun sales happen
guns don't have a tracking chip on them so how the fuck would the government know there's been an illegal transfer unless the dumb nigger up and confessed
Your IQ is really showing. Pic related.
I'm saying that if there was a universal register of all legally purchased firearms, it would be harder for criminals to buy gun from an intermediary.
>w-well the safety belt and airbag didn't save john from dying in that car crash so i guess cars shouldn't have any safety features at all ever
>dumb desu
It shows that a lack of gun registries doesn't stop governments from doing what they want, even if it's illegal. Only good lawyers and class actions can do that unfortunately. So if your only argument for not having a registry is that one, it's pretty dumb

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>>133244056
>let's ban bigger rounds than 9mm
>so let's ban a 5.56mm

>>133244056
We don't have a second amendment for no reason.
How are we gonna overthrow a tyrannical government with small arms ammo?

>>133244056
More tests with no actual point other than harrassing people.

>>133247212
relax, the only ones here who want to take away your rights are the redcoat and the Banifornian

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>>133244056
Kill yourself you disgusting swine.

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>>133248725
>actually proposing a gun registry
>in the United States

Fucking lol. Now I know you're trolling. No one could be this retarded and think something like that would fly on a national level.

>>133246434
no I'm a shill for the fucking Constitution of the United States of America.

>>133244857
>gets stabbed by psychopath

>>133248597
He's noting that the response is over twice the speed of sound.
That's also how long it takes to hit traitors like you.
Food for thought when you animals are treated like filth you are.

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>>133248725
Your restricting access to a legal procurement in an effort to curb illegal methods of acquisition. It makes no logical sense. Your proposition would greatly restrict access to firearms and diminish the firearms industry in the economy.

>>133248287
Uhmmm sorry sweetie, suicide is much higher among gun owners because you can just pick it up and cap yourself in the head

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>>133244056
Yeah even up here in leaf land the guns laws are not this cucked? Is that what you want Burgers to be more cucked that Canada?

>>133247193
the fastest average police response time in the US is in Nashville at 9 minutes.

In 9 minutes, a gunman can search the entire floor of any building, and have enough time to make a sandwich and boil cup of tea with an American kettle.

>>133248725
>Your IQ is really showing. Pic related.
let me walk you through the process you're describing
>be me, felon, want to acquire gun, can't
>have non felon friend
>give him the money to buy a gun
>he buys a gun, it gets registered in the (((government firearms registry)))
>he gives it to me
>government has fuckall way of knowing that he has given me the gun, they just know he bought one
>i go and do a gun crime
you with me so far?
how did your registry prevent this crime?
moreover
>toss gun at the crime scene
>police find it, identify my friend as the owner
>friend gets fucked, i walk free

>>133248995
This is plausible and more than likely will happen eventually.

Like I said, 2020 is going to be the year of reckoning.

>>133244056
tl;dr

As usual, OP is a faggot.

>>133244056
>Removing hollow point
You are retarded. Hollow point rounds should be the only legal rounds if you live in an apartment so you don't shoot through walls.

>>133249220

and that's okay.

women have the right to choose, why shouldn't met?

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>>133249220
That a bad thing?

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>>133245467
But really an anonymous militia operating as a private security force both inside of the USA and abroad.

>Your Private Army.

>>133244343
>133244343
SHALL

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>>133244056
There is no statistical support for gun control.

>>133244954
>t. Cuck

>>133249220
uhmmm sorry sweetie banning guns won't stop suicides because you can always hang yourself/jump off a bridge/drink bleach

>>133244166
This
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>133244056
Shall not be infringed
Done and dusted.

>>133249220
Aren't you libtards pro suicide?

>>133249468
De facto, yes.
But they're more pro-baby murder, I think.

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>>133244056
>Common sense is...
Stopped here.

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>>133244056

Take this autistic nigger shit to /k/

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>>133244056
>[t]he Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) final report on death statistics for 2013 shows there were 35,369 deaths from motor vehicle accidents versus 505 deaths from the accidental discharge of firearms. . . . Americans are 70 times more likely to die in a vehicle accident than by the accidental discharge of a firearm.”

>>133248725
>It shows that a lack of gun registries doesn't stop governments from doing what they want, even if it's illegal
well then why do you want to make it legal for them you fucking idiot?

>well the current laws prohibit jamal from raping my wife, but he does it anyway. why don't we just make it legal for him to rape my wife?
this is you

>>133249308
He probably say lethal weapon 3 or something?Most libtards get their ideas on guns from Hollywood.

>>133244056
Fuck right off and come and take it.

>>133244056

Come take them.

>>133244056
The term "well regulated" in the bill of rights; during the 1700s was commonly used. It's meaning was taken as "in proper working order", "A well regulated clock keeps time" or "A well regulated ship stays afloat".

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>>133249283
Dude, the democrats couldn't even get a watered down useless background check bill up for a vote in the house that they controlled after 30 kids were murdered at Sandy Hook, and you think there will ever be a national fucking registry? Are you all there in the head?

Hell, 2 Colorado lawmakers were literally thrown out of office before their term was up for voting for a magazine restriction bill, and Colorado is a fucking blue state.

What you are proposing is so far out of the realm of possibility that it isn't even a pipe dream.

>>133244166
>>133249427
Neither of you have a problem with that right being infringed, and you know it.

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>>133249220
>wants the government to facilitate suicide
>has an issue with people killing themselves without the government

>>133244343
Everyone has access to knives - the world does not resemble a slasher movie. Even physically strong individuals don't go around cutting everyone they don't like.

>>133249414
Except other suicide methods involve pain and or preparation so have a much higher failure rate than putting a gun to your head

>>133244056
This is not common sense.

This is common sense gun control.

>1. Make a federal licensing system.
>2. It is not mandatory only voluntary.
>3. The federal firearms civilian licensing act would make it possible to open or concealed carry across state lines.
>4. You would have to pass the NICS background check, a mental health screening and have your fingerprints on record.
>5. You can now own SBR, SBS, and suppressors with no tax stamp required now.
>6. You are exempt from waiting periods.
>7. You have to pass a basic safety test and a basic firearms proficiency test.
>8. You can opt out of getting the federal license however you will be subject to your state's laws and laws already on the books.

This is common sense gun control.

>>133244343
Most gun deaths are from shitty 22cal shit guns. People with the ability to collect quality guns are not a threat. Fuck you gommie

>>133247279
Deer aren't made of ballistics gel.
Deer muscles are denser than human muscles.
Their bones are denser.
Their organs are more robust.
Their skin is thicker and heavier.

Can 5.56 kill a deer? Probably if it hits just right, Eventually if it doesn't and the animal bleeds to death over several hours.
Can a 30.06 kill a deer? Yes. If you hit anywhere in the middle of the chest. It will drop the deer immediately.

Large hogs will shrug off 5.56.
Bears will just get angry.

>>133249814
Because they didn't control the house/senate.

>>133244056
no state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it

>>133249920
Don't you hate all us nasty gun owners any way? Bash the fash and all that?

>>133244343
If the world was exactly like GTA I'd be rolling in a lot more dosh than I am now.

>>133244056
SHALL

>be me
>live in "common sense" gun control country
>buy a few tubes and some nails
>maybe even some firecrackers and matches
>end up with pipe shotgun and ammo, all untraceable because there's no registry for buying common household items
>make a few grenades with the leftovers for shits and giggles
>acquire fertilizer because why the fuck not
>make car bomb because fuck you, that's why
>go to town and beat McVeigh's highscore because the police takes time to arrive and nobody else is armed
thanks gun control

>>133249920
because shooting yourself doesn't involve pain and requires no preparation whatsoever, right?

>>133250043
God, I hate California.

>>133244426
this, we use the same logic they're applying to pedophilia; if everyone is doing it, it's not that big a deal

>>133245647
Shut up you stupid asshole. Gun control in New Jersey hasn't saved a single life in Camden, Trenton, or Paterson

>>133244166
The 2nd amendment exists to provide for the defense of the nation through standing militias. The founding fathers didn't like the concept of a standing military branch of the government.

The 2nd amendment was outdated when the national guard replaced the militias, it no longer has any real relevancy to today's gun control debate. It's just a thought-terminating cliche for limp dick gun fags.

>>133244056
> too deadly
How the fuck can something be 'too deadly'? Like, it kills you twice or something? You're a tard.

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>>133245668

Hey asshole, I came to this thread to post that one. Makes me laugh every time...

>>133249814
>30 kids were murdered at Sandy Hook

First day on /pol/?

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>>133250004
Wow, I'm really shaking in my boots that the republican dominated House, Senate, and Supreme Court are going to pass sweeping gun control measures and pass a national registry any day now.

>inb4 b-but the blue wave in 2018 will ban all the scary guns and make me feel safer! I'm sure of it!

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Last month there was this: Go turn in your weapon anonymously in all police stations in Denmark.
>Fucking people going in with anti-tank rockets, grenades, multiple ak's, tec-9 and all kinds of shit
>Huh our law really works top kek

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>>133245507
>>133245935
>>133247782
>>133248194

http://www.commongunsense.com/2014/09/gun-laws-in-slovenia.html

Oh look! You're fucking retarded!
Common sense means, that you get proper training before you can buy guns and need a good reason for it.
And not make it so every nigger can just walk into the store and buy a semi-automatic rifle.

>>133246885
>What is tumbling and fragmenting?

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>>133250415
>The 2nd amendment was outdated when the national guard replaced the militias
How has the National Guard replaced the militias in any way?

>>133250415
Yeah, the tyrannical government would never turn the National Guard on its own people.

Four dead in Ohio
Four dead in Ohio.....

>>133244056

Okay retard explain how this will stop criminals and not law biding citizens.

I live in Canada and our gun laws were written by absolute morons.

>I'm sorry sir, I would totally kill you right now but the RCMP hasn't completed a background check on me.

Gun control only "makes sense" when you don't think about it.

Same thing with drugs...

>Man thank goodness heroin is illegal or I'd totally be an addict right now.

Here's the thing: Laws don't protect people. Most people don't kill other people because the laws says they can't.

If the only thing preventing you from killing people is a law you're a fricken idiot and belong in the psych ward.

>>133244954
>>133245555

bait

>>133246151
it's more because 7.62 NATO can't full-auto as comfortably as a 5.56, otherwise we'd have AR-10 variants of the BAR and .223s would be derived from those rifle patterns and not the other way around

>>133245206
>>133245507
>>133245593
>>133245935
>>133248591

>Live in Norway
>Never have to fear crime, most people don't even lock their doors, and society is so safe and civil that walking through other people's property is not only accepted, it's a legal right
>Government is transparent, politicians are addressed by their first name and have little individual power, there is no president

>Live in USA
>MUH FREEDOM
>You have to stay inside your own property or designated public areas though
>Suddenly get shot by criminal who bought his gun at walmart
>Die happily knowing that you live in the land of the free and had the right to defend yourself with the gun in your pocket that you didn't have time to draw
>Country is ruled by a single executive with great authority

Hmmmmm I wonder which county is actually free

>>133250513
Yes, and murder weapons that otherwise would have produced convictions for the murderers are now destroyed by the State.

Well done, morons.

>>133248995
Have you read my first post? >>133245748
>a universal firearm registry (which is what's really lacking in the US, but which is probably not implementable at this point)
>>133249164
How would a national registry (without any form of permit needed, mind you, I never mentioned permits because they are bullshit) restrict acces to a legal procurement?
>>133249275
You didn't even bother reading my posts
>he gives it to me
>government has fuckall way of knowing that he has given me the gun, they just know he bought one
A registry has to keep track of ALL transactions, included the private ones. If tracking private ones is unfeasible, just make it so that firearm sales have to pass through a gunshop (similar to what already exists in the US with FFL, but applied to private transactions as well).
>b-but how can the government know if I still have my gun
Law enforcement can check that with inspections.
>b-but what if I tell them I just lost my gun in a boating accident
Of course you can do that, but once or twice. If you buy 10 guns a week and systematically lose them it becomes obvious that you are trafficking them.
No law is perfect and people will still have access to firearms illegally, you can't stop that. But you can make it harder for criminals (in particular criminal organizations) to acquire massive quantities of firearms without making life unberable for the average gun owner

>>133249164
You're*

burger education

>>133250607
Russians don't seem to have a problem with it.

>>133250296
Self defense is not identical to raping little kids.
Being anti-self defense is being anti-evolution.
Anti-reality.
Anti-logic.
Anti-compassion.
I protect my family because I love them.
Anyone who would deny me my ability and natural right to self defense is, by definition, my enemy.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

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>>133250415
Yes people who like guns are fags?????You cucks are such pussy it makes me sick. There should be a back round check and thats it.

>>133244056
I'd support this, gunfags are retards.

>>133249894
I live in california and they are infringing the fuck out if my rights.

>lol just move
No, fuck off, make the liberals and fags and illegals move.

>>133246639
I colluded with your mother's fat cunt last night and she loved it, sonny.

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>>133245673

M-14 > M-15. When you need to kill a real man like a Nazi, you need the 30-06. 5.56 is for low grade targets like homosexuals, communists, and kittens.

>>133244056
OP is a fucking fag
who would have guessed?

>>133249743
>well then why do you want to make it legal for them you fucking idiot?
How would a registry make it legal for them to take away firearms from legal gun owners? Are you retarded? It would still be illegal just as it is now

>>133244056
Hahahaha. 9mm is larger than 5.56.
Nice bait post.

>HURRRR I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUNS
>HURRRR SOMEHOW I HAVE COMMON SENSE
Nice try fucking retard. The only thing that is common sense is that this is an obvious bait post heres your (you).

>>133244056

If you need guns to defend yourself against people then you need military caliber weapons since these are designed to stop/kill people effectively.

5.56 creates wounds that require medical attention.

The whole point to it is that it killed as much as it wounded, to strain the supply lines of enemy armies. A wounded soldier would strain the enemy more than a dead one.

>>133244166
This.

You can't have the first amendment without the second amendment. Freedom of thought and freedom of speech can't exist without the ability to protect it.

>>133250516
You need it to hunt and for self protection. Your late for that argument.

>>133249920
The failure rate for gun suicides ia hogh as fuck you dumb faggot. I'd tell you to kill yourself, but not with a gun because you'd probably fuck that up you little queer.

>>133244056

This is what common sense car control is.

Common sense is banning all vehicles that are faster than the legal limit. You don't need to drive faster than 70 mph becauseit's only for professional race car drivers. It's too fast and too deadly. Motorcycles are also going to be removed.

You can no longer purchase high octagon gasoline without a background check or ID. We will require you to go through a NICS check to buy any gasoline of any kind, or present your drivers license.

Now, there are two drivers licenses. The civilian and the commercial The civilian requires fingerprints, a background check, a medical records release to see if you have ever gotten therapy or diagnosed with a mental illness. After this, you need references who the police will contact and ask questions about your character and health.

If you pass, you can buy only one every 5 years. This way, you cannot stockpile cars.

The commercial permit is the same thing, but separate. However, you need 4 people to vouch for you via phone.

For a fast car permit, forget about it. Nobody besides law enforcement should be able to have one. Driving high acceleration cars is also banned nationwide except to law enforcement.

This is common sense car control.

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>>133250630
>Government is transparent, politicians are addressed by their first name and have little individual power, there is no president
>Have a pedofile ring in your goverment
>transparent

>>133244056
I hope you get stabbed.

>>133250516
>And not make it so every nigger can walk into the store and buy a semi-automatic rifle?
why semi-autos in particular? does it have "automatic" in its name and is therefore scarier?
and why would you deny a law-abiding citizen with a clean criminal record the right to buy a gun?

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>>133249333
Moot's Marauders
Anonymous and Armed
We ARE Your Private Army

Call 1-555-FUC-KOFF and tell us how we're posting today.

>>133250415
Muslim gang rape and monthly jihad attacks are why I'd want a gun in Europe.
Liberals never seem to understand that new bad people are born every day.
Self preservation is a never ending cycle.
Just imagine when the Reconquista begins - Europeans will NEED a gun just to survive.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

>>133250415
>>133250415
God you are dumb. The national guard is part of the military, controlled by the government. The whole point of the 2nd amendment is the ability of the people to defend themselves against a tyrannical government.

>>133244056

gun control is ineffective and stupid because smugglers exist. Organized crime revolves around providing people with shit the government doesn't want them to have.

Less legal guns = more demand for illegal guns. Gun runners will provide people with cheap third world guns for high prices.

Gun control is dumber than the drug war.

>>133250682
(You)'re an ass.

>>133244343
Those people should have had guns to defend themselves

>>133250674
>A registry has to keep track of ALL transactions, included the private ones. If tracking private ones is unfeasible, just make it so that firearm sales have to pass through a gunshop (similar to what already exists in the US with FFL, but applied to private transactions as well).
>Law enforcement can check that with inspections.
at last you show your true colors, you fucking (((european)))
you are proposing a surrender of individual freedoms for the sake of government control.
the police should not be able to rummage through your house whenever they please, especially not if you aren't suspected of a crime.
routine police inspections are literal communism and i won't allow it.
and i don't know how to get this through your thick skull
private transactions CANNOT be tracked by the government!
you think actual gun traffickers would even fucking consider doing their sales above board at a fucking gun shop? this law would be ignored by any criminal.
and that's the point, your effect on criminals is negligible while you greatly inconvenience law abiding citizens

>>133250978
except that that is fucking stupid. Common sense car control is what we already have in most of the West
>you need to prove that you are capable to safely operate a vehicle
>there is a registry of vehicles sold and who are the owners
all other legislation is bs

>>133245673
m8 when you say barely capable you actually mean 5.56 can't down anything larger than a deer.
Tons of people go deer hunting with ARs.

>>133250674
None of that shit is happening, dude. Courts rule local laws like that as violations of the second amendment all the time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/09/18/d-c-gun-registration-law-ruled-unconstitutional/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/03/21/hawaii-s-gun-restrictions-deemed-unconstitutional/

It's not fucking happening.

>>133250874
but it would make it easier for the gubmint

>>133251360
Run them through an archive

>https://washingtonpost com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/09/18/d-c-gun-registration-law-ruled-unconstitutional
https://archive.is/4Uosm

>>133251334
Owning a gun is a right.
Driving a car is a privilege.
>that flag

Yeah you fucking got me.

>>133244056
>Meanwhile
>Criminals get military grade guns and ammo to terrorize law abiding citizens and fight the police because they give no fucks about the law and buy supplies on the black market

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>>133250647
>Murders
>Denmark
>If you want real shit, look up Great Nordic Biker War that was the times of happenings

>>133246098
His argument is in favor of control, NOT banning.

Cars are already being regulated and they SHOULD be controlled even more to avoid drunk drivers.

That said, with cars we are dealing mostly with accidents, while with guns you have people going on a killing spree. It's different, tough both require precautions.

I should also point out that without cars the country basically stops, so they are a necessity while guns are not.

>>133250752
7.62x51 is not the same as, nor does it share ballistic characteristics of 7.62x54r, nor do I know what the significant differences are, all I know is that the BAR wasn't developed further in favor of 5.56 platforms m16/m4(or was it 14?) because the BAR was not as easily controllable. Maybe WWII grunts were sacks of potatoes, I don't know

>>133251334
There should only ever be a criminal back round check. There are to many guns in the states that ship has sailed long ago get over it.

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>mfw as a white person I'm more likely to be murdered via pills or pillows than "assault weapons"

Get fucked niggers, you can't take my gun rights because you won't stop shooting eachother.

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>>133244056
>9mm
>5.56 is bigger/more military-grade/same purpose

Somebody's fucking retarded!

>>133245920
Banning Guns worked in Japan, which has similar gun laws. Your point?

>>133250978

It's gonna be illegal to not use a self driving car eventually anyway.

>>133250543
yaw fragmentation is a poor man's killer compared to raw energy transfer, just look at the memetic hype and counterhype on things like the RIP round

>>133251709
Japan does not have any niggers.

>>133244056
10 fuckin mm
Also, 5.56 is not that bad.
Just have to shoot yourself with 9mm to slowly build up immunity, OP

>>133244056
>gun control
Commie
also
>ID to purchase ammo
That already exist in almost every single state.
I'm required to show my ID in TN.
>fingerprints for guns
Commie

How about instead with ban niggers?
It's much more feasible and ethically the right thing to do.

>>133244360
DEAD

>>133244056
You must go back. Get out

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>>133251709
Japan is an island that is not connected to mexico.....Libs want to ban guns but have no border wall?

>>133244056

B8 thread.

SAGE.

Why do rednecks want to ensure mentally ill people have access to firearms?

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you fucking commies better riddle me this: if most guns are banned in Ausfailia, and there's not really an easy way to smuggle them in, then how the fuck do these SMGs keep popping up?

>>133251563
how's your gun control going, brazilanon?

>>133251315
>you are proposing a surrender of individual freedoms for the sake of government control.
How so?
>the police should not be able to rummage through your house whenever they please, especially not if you aren't suspected of a crime.
I absolutely agree, they would need a judiciary mandate to do that, and those are only give if probable cause is present (aka: we have a reasonable amount of proof to believe that you are a weapons trafficker and sold weapons to felons, so we want to check up on you). I don't know how it works in Guatemala, but police can't just bust in your door in civilized countries.
>routine police inspections are literal communism and i won't allow it.
Not only that, but they would be stupid, extremely expensive and useless. I never mnentioned anything similar to that.
>and i don't know how to get this through your thick skull
>private transactions CANNOT be tracked by the government!
Unless a registry is present. In that case if an individual constantly "loses" massive amounts of gun, you'd most likely get a police inspection since it would be highly suspicious and any judge would approve of that
>you think actual gun traffickers would even fucking consider doing their sales above board at a fucking gun shop?
What the hell are you even talking about now?

>>133251334
Your common sense car control only applies to state owned roads. On privately owned roads you can do whatever the owner of the road allows you to do.

>>133245555
Who. the fuck. are YOU. to tell me what I need?

>>133245673
Ya, none of these gun-grabbers even understand round volume or jacket or grain etc. They just see that some queen bee has used the words "assault rifle" in the media again and their eyes go cross and the bile starts to expectorate.

>>133251768
Yeah plus they will all fly to right? Keep dreaming.

>>133251709
>Banning Guns worked in Japan
It literally didn't though

Common sense gun control is a steady trigger pull and a firm grip. Fuck OP, you fucking faggot kike

>>133244056
Here it is folks, the dumbest fucking thing I'll read the rest of the day.

This isn't a common sense approach, this is bureaucracy and a really stupid approach to gun control. And with guns readily available in most states and ammunition available by mail, dipshit laws like this would only create a massive black market and draw more illegal and dangerous activity associated with firearms.

That being said, it's never going to happen because everytime we have this debate, gun ownership comes out on top every single time.

>>133245732
You can, it requires a lot more skill, guile, and intrigue, though.

But in most states you MAY not.

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>>133251709
Japan is an island. Japan is racially homogeneous. Japan is more advanced. Japan is a nation with a goal.

The U.S. is none of those things.

>>133251945
What is mentally ill to you? How far would it go? Would some one on prozac not be able to buy guns? I am pretty sure no one is going to sell a gun to a full blown tard.