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Here is what is wrong about Don Jr and Russia

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The narrative:

>Russia directly interfered with the election to get Trump elected
>Russia hacked DNC emails and gave them to Wikileaks
>Wikileaks publishes them
>????
>Donald Trump Jr. met with some Russian lawyer from some oppo group (NOT ILLEGAL)

What did Russia have that Wikileaks didn’t already have?

Was the information legitimate in the end?

How does Don Jr. fit into Wikileaks releasing emails obtained by Russia and then publishing them?
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>>133242665
>What did Russia have that Wikileaks didn’t already have?

Russia didnt have what Wikileaks or Guccifer had until after it was released.

>Was the information legitimate in the end?
No. Its proof that some russian lied to get a meeting and dumbass Trump Jr fell for it like a chump.

>How does Don Jr. fit into Wikileaks releasing emails obtained by Russia and then publishing them?

He doesn't. Because Russia didn't obtain any emails from the DNC or Hillary. And wikileaks never got anything from the Russians.
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>>133243000
Bullseye! Came here to say this
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>>133243000

Well, I can't argue with those trips.
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>>133243132
>>133242665

In fact, the fact they didn't have shit to tell him is proof the Russian narrative is a BS as ever
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>>133243299

Practically speaking within the narrative, if Russia was responsible, and if Wikileaks published the emails, and if THAT publication was what ruined Hillary as the media says, realistically, what does the left have if Don Jr. left empty-handed? And if he did have something, he would have had to have been the one to give the emails to Wikileaks.

I just don't see Don Jr. fitting anywhere here, especially if nothing happened from that meeting.
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>>133243708
Its a red herring.

The MSM, DNC and IC keep pushing for "collusion", except their problem is collusion require some sort of crime having happened.

Judging by their fucked up chain of evidence, no such crime ever occurred.

see pic related
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>>133243000
His name was Seth Rich
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>>133243000
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>>133242665
OK I need better info than NPR.
They're throwing around treason.

How is this not obvious evidence of him colluding with Russia?
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>>133242665
I don't know what the fuck DJT Jr. is doing.

The last screenshot of the email chain that he posted (which contained the first email in the chain) specifically says that the Russian government wants to transmit sensitive information about Hillary through indirectly through intermediaries.

Perhaps they thought that was just bullshit but this whole time they have been playing dumb about whether or not Russia actually favored Trump to win.

Kinda glad he's being transparent though, because if this was the full extent of the Russia collusion then there isn't much there.
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>>133244257
> colluding

colluding on what?

Russians didn't hack the DNC.
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>>133244376
Actually... the email was sent by (((Andrew Goldstone))).

What if this was an elaborate attempt to frame the Trump campaign for colluding with Russians?
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>>133244257

Was Don Jr. the one who hacked the DNC and gave Wikileaks the emails?

Remember--Russian hacking into the DNC was the reason why Hillary lost (among many other reasons...Comey, misogyny, a green frog...)
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>Donald Trump Jr. met with some Russian lawyer from some oppo group (NOT ILLEGAL)
Right, arranging to meet with her under the premise that she would provide opposition research (goods or services of monetary value), is the illegal bit.

If he had just run into her into the street he would have been fine, but he substantially attempted to facilitate an illegal campaign contribution.
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>>133244569
oops, (((Rob Goldstone)))

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166
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>>133244633
>illegal campaign contribution.
>opposition research

those aren't the same. literally no crime was committed there.
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>>133244376
>I don't know what the fuck DJT Jr. is doing.
Releasing shit in a tweet that he knew was going to end up in public court records inevitably anyway through a warrant.

Better to get shit over with in a few days than a few months.
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How did Russia make me vote for Trump?
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>>133244445

Basically this.
>>133244376

It shows they were buddy buddy. Even if they weren't able to provide anything they said they had he met with them and tried to work with them.
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>Left: Oy Vey!!! Lil Drumpf Jr. meet with Russians!!! No one can meet with non-Americans!!!
How many Israelis did Hillary and her campaign meet with?
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>>133244929
>It shows they were buddy buddy

no law against being friends with Russians
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>>133242665
>Here is what is wrong about Don Jr
Extra chromosome?
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>>133244841
>those aren't the same
Under campaign finance law any "thing of value" can be an illegal campaign contribution and simply substantially aiding the transfer of them (or for the foreign entity, making the promise to transfer them) is illegal.

Unless your argument is that campaigns don't pay for opposition research, you have no idea what you are talking about.

>A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
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>>133244953
>Israelis
meeting with your master doesn't count you wattameloned ape
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No press is bad press. Don Jr's profile has tripled since the media began making him sound like a diabolical genius who wants to lock up kiddie fuckers.
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>>133244953
>How many Israelis did Hillary and her campaign meet with?
Dual citizenship.
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>>133245464
>who wants to lock up kiddie fuckers
?
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>>133245277
>thing of monetary value

and some can say sharing opposition research is freedom of speech under the 1st amendment. No court in the universe would consider that a campaign contribution.

Even IF that were true, nothing was exchange so no crime happened. You cant arrest someone for possession if they tried to buy weed and failed.
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OP here

I challenge any leftist reading to take me to task over this.
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>>133242665
It is illegal to knowingly solicit contributions to a campaign by a foreign national. Since no money was involved, Jr. Is looking at facing a fine for the law he broke.

I highly doubt this will lead to anything more, otherwise Jr. wouldn't have released the emails.
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>>133245641
>and some can say sharing opposition research is freedom of speech under the 1st amendment.
Just because there is freedom of speech doesn't mean speech is free.

There's freedom of guns and you sure as shit can't get those for free.

But nice try.
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>>133245773

So this isn't about collusion, it's about campaign donations?
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>>133245885
>>133245641
In fact, money IS speech and money is sure as shit regulated under election law.

FUCK YOU.
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>>133245773
>a fine
5 years in federal prison. Finance law is serious business.
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>>133245468
>Dual citizenship.
It is like (((they))) know their involved in something bad and want to leave the door open run home when they overstay their welcome.

>(((Them))): Oy Vey!!! We fucked up again and the goyim want to throw us into the oven for real this time!!! Thank God we have our dual citizenship to allow us to run back and hide in Israel.
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>>133246027
>>133245773
>>133245885

Good thing he left empty-handed.
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>>133242665

Someone promised Don Jr that the Russian lawyer was the Russian Edward Snowden with juicy info that would send Hillary to jail for treason.
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>>133245908
I have no idea what you consider to be collusion. But yes, this is about conspiring to receive an illegal campaign donation.
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>>133245885
>nice try

still waiting for the part were show that any court in the US ever considered "opposition research" a campaign contribution.

Sorry, pal, there is no law against sending emails or talking to people about politicians. If so then every foreign news outlet that said a bad thing about Trump was colluding with the Clinton campaign and the Clinton campaign is guilty of illegal contributions.
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>>133245908
Yes and no. The law he arguably broke is about campaign donations. Whether it really amounts to collusion is unknown and needs more research since there is no evidence to support It's full relationship to Russia and any other contacts.

This sounds like a separate incident when compared to the scadanal at large.
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>>133246209

So it's NOT about Russian collusion to beat Hillary Clinton by hacking her emails
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>>133244575
>a green frog
Yeah, don't take credit where it isn't due.
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>>133246148
>Good thing he left empty-handed.
1. We don't know that
2. Simply substantial involvement in the potential exchange is illegal. He agreed to set up a meeting and further involved 2 high level campaign officials. That's substantial involvement.

It's actually the exact same crime. The law doesn't differentiate between attempts and successes.
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>>133242665
but guys Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails, duh
#SethRich
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>>133246027
The specific section of the US Code (52 SS 30121) he broke is not listed as one of the parts that , when broken, would throw him in jail. He's looking at a fine.
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>>133242665
he didn't and wasn't involved in any criminal activity

its just more bullshit "connect the dots" nothingburger
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>>133244575
Everybody knows it was who Barron hacked the election
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>>133245468
>>133245541
>>133245885
>>133245959
>>133246027
>>133246209
>>133246473
Don Jr. did nothing wrong buddy.
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Is collusion illegal? Is not reporting it and trying to hide it illegal?

is Don jr actually fucked?
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>>133242665
>and gave them to Wikileaks

There is zero evidence of this. It started as speculation by the Clinton campaign (Podesta and that dweeb specifically). It was later repeated by CNN. WaPo and NYT cited CNN as a source, but see above. Now Reuters and everyone else are going along with it.

This kind of thing happens all the time in the news. Remember Snopes used to debunk urban legends?
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>>133246473
Thanks for providing a degree of intelligent discourse in this otherwise vapid thread.
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>>133246209
point to any definition of
>anything of value

that includes information or data
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>>133246299
>still waiting for the part were show that any court in the US ever considered "opposition research" a campaign contribution.
There is precedent that campaign materials be considered campaign contributions in the form of limits on air time (equal time rule). Opposition research is very obviously a campaign material.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule
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>>133243000
Trips of truth
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>>133246417
This hasn't been connected to the hacking yet.

Not saying it won't be.
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>>133243000
DJT will disavow him and call him a loser publicly
screencap this
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Someone please tell me if I got this right

>Donald running for president
>old friend sets up meeting with Donald Jr. saying the Russians want to help DJT and this person has dirt on Hillary
>show up
>"dirt on Hillary" was a ruse to get a meeting about a different issue
>meeting adjourned
>no Russian help
>DJT goes on to win election without help from the Russians

So perhaps Donald Jr. broke a law by soliciting a foreign national for information that would influence an election, but now it is shown that Russia did not directly collude with the Trump campaign (even though his son was willing to)?

So DJT won the election without Russia's help?
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>>133246724
collusion with a foreign government to subvert the election seems like something that could be not-legal.
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>>133247000
No he broke the law when he didn't inform anyone or make a record of it.
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>>133246813
>that includes information or data
an·y·thing
ˈenēˌTHiNG/Submit
pronoun
>used to refer to a thing, no matter what.

val·ue
ˈvalyo͞o/Submit
noun
1.
the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.
"your support is of great value"
synonyms: worth, usefulness, advantage, benefit, gain, profit, good, help, merit, helpfulness, avail; More
>the material or monetary worth of something.
"prints seldom rise in value"
synonyms: price, cost, worth; More
the worth of something compared to the price paid or asked for it.
"at $12.50 the book is a good value"
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>>133246923

How could it be connected?

Russia was the one that hacked the DNC not Don Jr. Russia gave Wikileaks the emails. Not Don Jr.

What does Don Jr. have to do with any of this?
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>>133246857
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule
nothing there
> campaign materials be considered campaign contributions
information is not campaign materials either.

your just trying to make a definition that doesn't exist.


saying words in public or private is not a contribution.

Its protected speech.
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It's over.
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>>133247296
which statute or case ruling did that definition come from?

becuz i know you didnt just try to apply a merriam-webster definition of common usage words and not actual legal terms.
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>>133247371
>information is not campaign materials either.
I'm not entirely sure you understand how campaigns work.

Cause it's literally 90% gathering modeling and spreading information.
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>>133247285
>it is a crime to talk to a foreigner
>this is what fake news is pushing now
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>>133242665
OK let it go... Drumpf is finished, its been fun watching you trumpets, but do you really think America is going to tolerate a sexist, misogynist, racist, sexist, xenophobic, anti immigration leader? Sorry but Drumpf is finished..
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>>133244257
Because it's just some random email talking about shit, not evidence that any shit actually happened or was happening. Is there any confirmation that shit was happening that Don Jr acknowledged?

Now I understand why the US is dumbing people down.
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>>133247519
>Saudi Arabia, Canada, Most of Europe and a shitload of foreign nations say Hillary is the better choice
>somehow Russia secretly wanted Trump to win, this is what's bad
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>>133247510
>becuz i know you didnt just try to apply a merriam-webster definition of common usage words and not actual legal terms.
I absolutely did because "thing of value" isn't defined in the law and even if it were the things that defined it wouldn't be legal terms, or the things that defined those wouldn't be legal terms or so on and so forth.

But seriously, it's not defined, I checked.

And it was google define search results.
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>>133247783
Saying she's a better choice and spending resources to prove it in the USA aren't the same thing.
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>>133247519
>spreading information

this is still not campaign contribution.

you don't understand the meaning of the term "campaign contribution"
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>>133247953
Yes I do. It's money or other thing of value contributed to impact an election.
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>>133248019

Good thing he left empty handed.
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>>133244376

Reminder that Comey basically set the precedent that now you have to prove intent in any case going forward for shit like this.

This means that someone has to prove that DTJ had the intent to collude (which will never happen).

There's also the fact that the supposed "Russian Government Lawyer" apparently lied about her status and has nothing to do with the Russian Government. Which means that there was literally no crime which took place as the only thing which would even be remotely criminal is the fact that this 'lawyer' was part of the Kremlin, which by all accounts so far, she doesn't.

Long story short, nothing will happen and we can enjoy 8 more years of Trump.
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>>133248200

They will be blogging and tweeting about Russia until they are dead.

It's all a campaign to delegitimize his victory over a candidate with a ton of baggage.

They will NEVER admit Hillary did anything wrong.
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>>133247833
gee. where is judge to turn then in your hypothetical case?

maybe Kentucky and Ohio state definitions of campaign contribution?

I checked. Informational and educational products are not included in that definition AND are specifically excluded.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/anything-of-value/

What does the supreme court say about how far the 1st amendment goes to protect freedom for speech? Sounds like strict scrutiny applies here.
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>>133247909
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html

Saudi Arabia has been a particularly generous benefactor. The kingdom gave between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation. (Donations are typically reported in broad ranges, not specific amounts.) At least $1 million more was donated by Friends of Saudi Arabia, which was co-founded by a Saudi prince.
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Donald Trump and his offspring make a strong case against the heritability of IQ
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>>133248397
Time for archive
https://archive.is/RUnp4
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>>133248019
Free speech is not a campaign contribution.
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>This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump
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Nobody answered my question.

How does Don Jr fit into Russia hacking the election?
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>>133248134
>Good thing he left empty handed.
The law makes no distinction between receiving and attempting to receive.

I have already fucking told you this.
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>>133248019
Tell where in any case law or statute supports the idea that a Russian using free speech and telling the public things about Hillary is regulated by Campaign Finance laws.

HINT: Its not.
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>>133244257
>>133244376
>>133244445
>>133244575
>>133244658
>>133244929
>>133245159
>>133245464
>>133245641
>>133245773
>>133245959
>>133246178
>>133246473
>>133246724
>>133246923
>>133247381
>>133248134
>>133248409
>>133248397

oppo research that wasn't received from a woman who wasn't working for the russian government is nothing, sweetie.
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>>133248657
>>133248501

>>133247896
>>133247942
>>133247765


oppo research that wasn't received from a woman who wasn't working for the russian government is nothing, sweetie.
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>>133248657

You have been BTFO already, and it began when you moved goalposts from "Don Jr hacked the DNC with Russia" to "this is a campaign donation" which is a speeding ticket in the grand scheme of things.
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>>133248657
>>133248019
The only thing your trying to do is criminal free speech by claiming its a "contribution" and therefore regulated.

Citizens United vs FEC already shot that shit down. Your a little late to the party.
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>>133244903
By releasing true information about Hillary you clown! If all the information about how crooked she is didn't get to the public, no one would've known and she would be president now.
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>>133248837
The left will spin their wheels about it- but if anything they are just gonna trace the Russian lady and the set up for this to the left.
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>>133247325
>>133246923

Can you answer this please
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>>133248657
>>133248657
You see, what your calling "contributions" is actually defined as "electioneering communications" which is a 1st amendment right not subject to the FEC.
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>>133248940
Conspiring with a foreign adversary to influence or undermine an election is illegal. Trump Jr. attended the meeting on the assumption that he would receive damaging information on Clinton via the Russian government. That's conspiracy to commit election fraud :^)
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>>133248383
>where is judge to turn then in your hypothetical case?
Federal court.

>g. a gift, tangible good, chattel, or an interest in a gift, tangible good, or chattel;
oppo research

It doesn't include informational, educational, or promotional items, but who is to say that includes oppo research? That sounds more like brochures and shit.
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>>133249431
gold
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>>133249185

it's already happening.
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>>133242665
>Russia directly interfered with the election to get Trump elected


How? Did Russian soldiers were behind voters and forced them to vote for Trump back in November ?

Why did the 'Russian' give the popular vote to Clinton?
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>>133249389

oppo research that wasn't received from a woman who wasn't working for the russian government is nothing, sweetie
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>>133249389

/thread
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>>133248985
>Citizens United vs FEC already shot that shit down
Doesn't apply when foreigners are involved cause foreigners DON'T HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO INTERFERE IN US ELECTIONS YOU FUCKING IDIOT

Fuck off, traitor.
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>>133249748
oppo research that wasn't received from a woman who wasn't working for the russian government is nothing, sweetie

/thread
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>>133244257
NPR radio CNN good way to get the anti-Trump spin without wanting to put your foot through the TV
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>>133249319
>Can you answer this please
We've got the DNC servers, what do you want us to do with them?
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>>133249157
Dude. She has been doing tucked up shit for 45 years. Her being a cunt in the last 2 years was not the straw that broke the camel's back dummy
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>>133249621
Just gonna post his again

What your calling "contributions" is actually defined as "electioneering communications" which is a 1st amendment right not subject to the FEC.

The Federal already ruled on that bullshit. You cannot regulate electioneering communications.

You can call it
>thing of value
>contributions
>thing i dont like
>evil
>treason words

its doesn't change the fact the the SCOTUS already defined that behavior and said: No. Talking to campaigns and campaigns talking to people is not illegal.
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>>133249952
>>133249952
>You cannot regulate electioneering communications.
Except when they involve foreign individuals.
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>>133249741
Good thing that's irrelevant for the charge of conspiracy :^)
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>>133243000
>000
AMAZING
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>>133249812
oh babby lost his first legal argument

Free speech isnt
>treason
>collusion
>contributions

or whatever ass-pulled defintion you'd like to tag it with
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>>133250083
>Free speech isnt
>treason
I'm sure the Rosenbergs will be happy to know that.
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>>133250067
no thats only contributions and things of value.

supreme court said you cannot touch that. it doesnt say only for Americans.
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>>133242665
FUCK DRUMPF!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slrO3qRBgHM
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>>133250176
Im sure the Rosenbergs went to the chair for campaign contributions.

Nice one Esquire
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>>133250177
>supreme court said you cannot touch that.
>Bradley A. Smith, professor of law at Capital University Law School, former chairman of the FEC, founder of the Center for Competitive Politics and a leading proponent of deregulation of campaign finance, wrote that the major opponents of political free speech are "incumbent politicians" who "are keen to maintain a chokehold on such speech". Empowering "small and midsize corporations – and every incorporated mom-and-pop falafel joint, local firefighters' union, and environmental group – to make its voice heard" frightens them.[50] In response to statements by President Obama and others that the ruling would allow foreign entities to gain political influence through U.S. subsidiaries, Smith pointed out that the decision did not overturn the ban on political donations by foreign corporations and the prohibition on any involvement by foreign nationals in decisions regarding political spending by U.S. subsidiaries, which are covered by other parts of the law.
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>>133250072

conspiracy to commit a nothingburger? not a crime, sweetie.

but we do have hillary dead to rights colluding with ukraine. tick fucking tock, brock.
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>>133250320
>speech can be treason some of the time, it isn't this time
Also, money is speech and money is contributions so how can speech not be a contribution?
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SCRUMPF IS A FUGGIN TRAITOR

2 SCOOPS ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS.
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>>133250361
>contributions

its like you keep pointing to that word and claiming it means "electioneering communications"

lets try this barney style

the thing Eric did is called "electioneering communication".

SCOTUS give that behavior the widest protection of free speech.

What ur talking about is "contributions"

which has nothing to do with any of that.
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>>133242665
It's so close that I can taste it. Drumphy is finished this time for sure.
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>>133242665

Here is what is wrong:

>“This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump,” wrote Goldstone.

that is bizarre language. So either Don Jr was working under the premise that the Russian government was helping Trump or Goldstone is part of the setup. I think Jr is going to have his emails confiscated pretty soon to see how much correspondance he actually had with Mr. Goldstone.
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>>133247000
It wasn't just "dirt on Hillary". It was information that would "incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia".

So what's alleged here is that Don Jr. thought Hillary broke the law and that a Russian Lawyer had evidence.
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>>133242665
>Was the information legitimate in the end?
So if I want to murder but miss I am free to go? lol what?
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>>133250495
>money is speech

thats a meme. the court never said that.
nice try.

money cannot be regulated as an end run around the first amendment.

which is excatly what ur trying to do
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>>133242665
the only way they can directly interfere is hacking voting machines which did not happen.
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>>133250361
Also not too mention the glaring fact that
ERIC TRUMP WAS SOLICITED BY SOMEONE ELSE.
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>>133250760

um no, sweetie. this isn't a totalitarian marxist state that europe is. usa usa usa, sweetie. our rights are endowed not by men, but by our Creator.
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>>133243000
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>>133250767
some people think sharing campaign information is against the law.
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>>133243000
HIS NAME

WAS

SETH

RICH
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>>133250495

well then Hillary is going to jail for sure b/c her campaign openly took information and money from Germany and Ukraine. And the DNC internal emails were gung ho about accepting every dime that came through.

The reality is that you are wrong b/c you either cannot comprehend the law you keep quoting or are willfully ignorant and just want to desperately believe or are a troll.
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>>133245885
>>133245959
>>133246027
You must be an uppity sandnigger german if you think words aren't free.
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>>133246473
1. Yes we do from the only sources available.
2. That is far from substantial involvement. A meeting to smell out bullshit is far from that.

You're all forgetting Don Jr. already has a fucking lawyer. There's no way he didn't release this without going through one of the best lawyers in the world. To think he incriminated himself, no matter how much you think he's scum incarnate, is madness.
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>>133250767
If you don't know by now, for a fact, that Hillary violated several laws multiple times, including with her dealings with Russia, you are beyond help.
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>>133242665
Another nothing burger that people up will obsess about for the next four weeks while not paying attention to what else is going on.
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>>133243000
First, tips tells truth. Second, trips 0s implies it's a nothingburger. What this will reveal is the DNC had contacts with Russian lefties, and the lawyer was a plant in a surface-level trap set by the DNC contacts in Russia to get something juicy on the Trump administration.

This, like everything else, will backfire. Trump tld Jr. to release the info, opening the floodgates to the public acquiring knowledge of Shillary being in the know the whole time - playing espionage games with the only other nuclear superpower in the world in a game of provocation and subversion.

We seriously dodged a fucking bullet getting that cunt to leave the stage for good.
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>>133251043
That must be nice
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>>133245541
problem with that goym?
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>>133243000
>>133242665
Please be video evidence of hillary assassinating seth rich saying "I, Hillary Clinton, just killed the man responsible for stealing DNC emails!!!!"

That would be great
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>>133245277

Nope.

Otherwise the piss dossier and many other things would be illegal.

Remember "Chris Steele" is not american.
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>>133251485
that would be sweet B^)
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>>133244569
That's CLEARLY what it is. The only question is, will it stick? And will the motives be shown?
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>>133245773

No it isn't.

Piss dossier and many others.

Piss dossier was complied by an Englishman.
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>>133246472
it's part of it. It was literally a week long shenanigan, wondering why Hillary was ranting constantly about a white supremacist frog
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>>133251670
Better question is when does the D indict the DNC and Crowdstrike for tampering with evidence and obstruction of an investigation on their servers?
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>>133246857

Equal campaign time law.

Now you're just trolling
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Just when muh russia was finally fizzling out. Now at least 6 more months.
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>>133247019
DNC worked with Ukraine to get info on Trump. RNC received Pissgate info from a Brit who got it from a Russian. Would anyone seriously turn down legit info on someone just because it came from a different country?
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>>133251176

>There's no way he didn't release this without going through one of the best lawyers in the world.

This is the part people are overlooking. Jr. would have in no way tweeted this if his lawyers were not 100% positive they couldn't defend it.

Also, now, no one can say Jr. isn't cooperating with the investigation. He put it all out there for the world to see.
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>>133245641
Well, actually you can, it's called conspiracy to commit X.
Like if you are planning on killing someone and you get caught, even if you've never hurt the guy, you still will get charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

The Russia story is BS, but yeah conspiracy is a crime. But oppo research isn't, and if you guys seriously think that Hillary never met with "foreign entities" for oppo research, or bribes, or whatever, you guys are crazy. This is all normal shit being blown totally out of proportion in order to cause you to (((resist))).
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>>133252832

Also this.
Just yesterday there was some article about how "Don Jr. just hired one of the best lawyers," as if that was supposed to mean LOOK HE'S GUILTY OF SOMETHING, HE HIRED A LAWYER!

Plebs and #resist retards don't understand that everyone who is worth anything employs lawyers on a regular basis to mitigate risk and liability, get advice, etc.
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>>133243000
Trips of truth
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>>133253505
There's no conspiracy to commit a crime by inquiring leaked information, if it was then every single journalist of every news publication would be locked up for openly soliciting, receiving and distributing leaked information. It's covered under the first amendment and the only difference is leftists hate Don Jr. and the Trump family so they're going to pretend he committed treason and every crime in the book even though WaPost, NYT and CNN journalists are doing the exact same thing and are rightly protected from persecution from that under the 1st amendment the same as anyone else.
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>>133251458

it is.
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>>133243000
Correct, Russia didn't obtain any emails from the DNC.
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>>133249872

Turn them over to the FBI.
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>>133242665
>Russia directly interfered with the election to get Trump elected
>Russia hacked DNC emails and gave them to Wikileaks
>Wikileaks publishes them

Citation needed.
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>>133242665
>Russia directly interfered with the election to get Trump elected
How so? Give just one example. Or do you think people knowing the truth about Clinton was enough to keep her from being a president
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>>133243922
great graph for the normies
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>>133243000
Trips of truth.
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>>133242665
>Here is what is wrong

New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally, Not Hacked

https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/07/new-research-shows-guccifer-2-0-files-were-copied-locally-not-hacked/

https://www.newsmediawatchdog.com/single-post/2017/07/10/New-Research-Shows-Guccifer-20-Files-Were-Copied-Locally-Not-Hacked
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Anyone notice the meeting with this russian lawyer was 7/9/2016

ONE DAY BEFORE SETH RICH WAS MURDERED
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>>133251781
CNN even made their own
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>>133261462

No, that one is from some reddit post with 2 replies.
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>>133257883

I'm just going by their own narrative.

I just don't see what Don Jr. has to do with anything.
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How long can we beat this rented mule?
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>>133262356
>I just don't see what Don Jr. has to do with anything.
true, they are running out of options its getting ridiculous
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>>133242665

Professional mark
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>>133262356
Would you try to make logical sense of this?
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>>133242665
thank you mr. fsb for the new talking points I will spread them on this mongolian cooking board
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>>133242665
donnie jr

>talks about hilary
>talks about international adoption
>linking hilary to int. child trafficking once again
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>>133263453

Because someone has to do it.
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Okay so I think I know what this is really about.

Since November 9th, the left has said over and over that Russia hacked the election, therefore Trump's victory is not legitimate.

THEN the Mike Flynn stuff happens, and NOW you have all the conspiracy theories about collusion.

The evidence for collusion is extremely flimsy. They were better off just saying "Trump wouldn't have won had it not been for Russia, so he didn't REALLY win on his own!"

That's all this is really about.
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>Todd and Clare
Todd and Clare
>Todd and Clare
Todd and Clare
>Todd and Clare
Todd and Clare
>Todd and Clare
Todd and Clare
>Todd and Clare
Todd and Clare
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>>133242665
sage
>>
There was no hacking, Seth Rich downloaded everyhing to a fucking usb memory.

/thread
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If Trump had received information from the Russian government (of which there's no evidence, by the way, but let's assume he did), he'd certainly not release it and say: "I haven't been able to verify this, but the Russian government assures me it's accurate." He'd try to verify it independently, and he'd disclose it only if he could.
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Dumbass Trump supporters. The email literally says that the info they were offering DJT Jr. came from the Russian government. How will Trumpkins ever recover?

And don't say "OH BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT IT WAS FAKE" because that doesn't cover Jr.'s intentions.
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>>133266099
Hmmm where have I heard that before
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article109255732.html
>“The source of the $1 million is the Russian government. It will be wired to Mr. Assange’s nominated account, upon his cooperation, and before filming of the ToddandClare.com ad by the SoHo camera crew,” Hammond wrote in a Sept. 16 email, according to a copy WikiLeaks published.
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>>133266099

Was Don Jr. officially on his father's campaign?
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