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Why is incest considered such a taboo? It makes no sense. Same

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Why is incest considered such a taboo? It makes no sense. Same sex marriage is now okay. So why not incest? If people are allowed to choose who they love, regardless of sex, they should also be allowed to choose who they love, even if they're related.

The only real issue would be fucked up babies, but that can be fixed by simply not having babies, and later playing God and editing your babies.
So I ask again. Why is incest not okay yet?
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Give it a few more decades and civilization will degrade enough to allow it as well.
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Cosanguine marriage is okay in more countries than you'd think, though. In the netherlands it's legal, for example. It's not pushed because it's not as prevalent as homosexuality I'm guessing.
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because you can fuck up your kids plus it just seems so wrong
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>>133242520
fpbp
fuck off OP you're probably a virgin who is jealous of his sister
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>>133243057
>It just seems so wrong.
Only if your genetics are shit. My cousin is half dutch and she's 100x hotter than 99% of British women.
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cousin/sibling incest>racemixing
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Incest has always been looked down upon because of the risk of inbreeding. You don't want to destroy your family by producing imbeciles, do you? Also keep in mind that abortion, condoms and such are a modern invention.
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>>133242520
Degrade how? What is wrong with it? It's just a normal, heterosexual relationship with someone you got to know and love first, and fucked later.
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people that support incest are already the result of inbreeding.
TLDR you are all imbecile autists.
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>>133242520
decades? wtf, are you isolated from media?
As fast as we spiral down in degeneration this shit will happen before 2020 I fucking assure you.
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>>133241834
It carries connotations of wanting to stay within your racial group and they don't like that.
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>>133245364
how can a white supremacist say such a deranged thing?
As far as I'm concerned, incest, is reserved for leftist socialist cucks, who betray their sister with her mother.
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>>133243909
The chance of creating an imbecile by having sex with a sibling is completely over-hyped. I'm still surprised people say it that's how ridiculous it is. There are better arguments against incestuous relationships that you could use as an example to make your point.
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As long as there is no procreation, I really don't give a fuck what two consenting adults do.
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>>133245948

They use the flag to confuse people. Same goes for when leftists use the nazi flag. Not many people seem to notice but we've been getting raided all day. The two main themes are:

>hurr western society is so prude and traditional (despite the fact that it's clearly not)
>if you're a young white male and you don't race mix you're a sexist racist virgin (then they get really pissed when you disagree with them)
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>>133246132
The Ptolemaic dynasty would seem to bear that out - an absolutely absurd amount of very closely related incest and no record of, well, Carlos II. Even for poor Carlos II, it took literally centuries of moronic breeding decisions to produce him. Aside from looking dumb, most of his relatives turned out fine, too.
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>>133241834

I completely agree with you. I'm actually in a committed sexual relationship with my mother, we secretly got married to each other without the priest knowing we're related to each other and we have a daughter together. INCEST IS THE BEST!!!!! <3 #^_^#
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>it's bad
That's literally the only counterargument presented in this thread so far. I know, it's /pol/, shouldn't expect much, but still, this is fucking pathetic.
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>>133241834
Incest is what keeps wealth inside the family. While marrying in other families divides wealth. The European ruling families were very powerful before incest became taboo.

And guess who was responsible for this view on incest? Guess who wanted to divide and conquer the European families? The Jew, that's who.
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>>133247629
I can understand to a certain point the incest between siblings, but with your mother?
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>>133241834
Get out and socialize, and leave your sister alone
fuking hentai ruining society
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>>133242520
>Give it a few more decades and civilization will degrade enough...
All the bullshit in the past 100 years has spawned from your shit hole of a country, asshole. America will degrade, not civilization.
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>>133247629
This a good one. Thanks mang.
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>>133250854
Please explain why would anyone want to leave their sister alone, if they both love each other and have zero plans for making messed up babies?
I'll wait.
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>>133241834
You're right that if we allow faggots to marry etc. it's a slippery slope. Eventually people will start marrying animals...
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>>133254246
Animals lack the ability to properly constant. Big difference.
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Same sex is disgusting but at least they cannot procreate. Incest may cause Shia LaBeouf-tier retarded kids. That's much worse
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>Why is incest considered such a taboo

Because of outbreeding depression;

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreeding_depression
>Intermediate genotypes are not adapted to either parental habitat. For example, selection in one population might favor a large body size, whereas in another population small body size might be more advantageous, while individuals with intermediate body sizes are comparatively disadvantaged in both populations

A homozygote has two copies of the same allele of a gene, and if it breeds with another homozygote the result will be AA. If another homozygous culture exists - BB - it can breed with AA to produce an AB heterozygote.

In continue with the body size example, and say this is an allele of the Growth Hormone 1 gene, and AA is 2m long and BB is 1mm long. The B allele is defined by it's hypoactivity, let's say, so effectively, AB gets half the dose of AA, and grows to be 1.5m long.

Ancient humans were all inbred;

>http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/5365/20131219/neanderthal-genome-reveals-incest-interbreeding-and-mystery.htm
>or Neanderthals, finding that special someone could have meant looking as far as the next species over - or a close as a cousin, according to the most complete sequencing yet of the Neanderthal genome

Our brains have also gotten smaller since our gene pools have enlarged;

>https://phys.org/news/2011-02-brains-smarter.html
>Human brains have shrunk over the past 30,000 years

So why is incest illegal? The Jews know you need to be a homozygote for the genes that increase brain size. They mix you up will remaining pure and inbred themselves.

Also, I am a Jewish geneticist. Ask me anything.
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>>133256189
>Also, I am a Jewish geneticist. Ask me anything.
Ah! Nice try, schlomo.
Incest is like having sex with a copy of yourself that is slightly altered.
Ergo, incest is slighlty closer to masturbation than to sex.
Masturbation makes you physically weaker, and it removes the incentive to work.
Meaning that it should be frowned upon.
Incest should be just as frowned upon as masturbation (which is a fucking lot)
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>>133241834

Good luck on editing these babies.
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>>133241834
Incest is a degenerate perversion and the best case example of the slippery slope being more than just a fallacy.
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>>133257702

The weirdest thing about this picture is that theres 5 of them, one I could understand but 5?
Abdul why didn't you abandon them in the desert?
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>>133258086
Rather, why did they continue to breed after 1?
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>>133258147
Actually, why even one? What was the fucking point? Yeah, they wanted to fuck, understandable, but why the fuck would anyone want those abominations?
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>>133258086
>>133257702
This is exactly why people need fucking birth control and abortion, no questions asked.
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>>133258589
Well obviously they couldn't predict their child would be a mutant before the first one.
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>>133258638
>people need fucking birth control and abortion
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>>133258638

Fuck off pay for your own birth control and abortion, those two probably live in canada and get gibs for their mutant spawn
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Gay marriage doesnt produce deformed children retard
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>>133258992
Sodomites are mentally ill and use surrogates to pass on their genes.
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>>133258769
>>133257702
This
>>133257702
is what degeneracy is. Actual, real degeneracy.
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>>133259851
Shitskins are not people, what they do does not matter. If you support the existence of birth control and abortion you are an enemy of the human race and can go live with the shitskin demons.
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>>133256880

>Incest is like having sex with a copy of yourself that is slightly altered

The genetic diversity of these ancient humans was like modern Cheetahs today. Even if an ancient American and Australian bred, the result would be inbred. Everyone was your sister.

Heterozygotes have smaller brains than homozygotes - our ancient inbred ancestors had larger brains than we do.

>Masturbation makes you physically weaker, and it removes the incentive to work

Masturbation lowers dopamine, which makes you stupid. Smart people use drugs to inhibit the enzymes that metabolize their dopamine, and masturbate as they wish.

35,000 years ago, an African hominid interbred with H. sapiens sapiens;

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21896735/
>Extensive simulation results reject the null model of no admixture and allow us to infer that contemporary African populations contain a small proportion of genetic material (≈ 2%) that introgressed ≈ 35 kya from an archaic population that split from the ancestors of anatomically modern humans ≈ 700 kya

The heterozygosity of modern populations comes from this admixture. Asians and Europeans are very similar genetically, and their differences basically amount to a small proportion of African admixture in southern Europe.

The Americas are inhabited almost solely by Y haplogroups C, R and Q. R and Q are relatives, and Jews promoted the destruction of the new world to destroy it's native Aryans. Millions of American mummies were burned to erase the white race, just as haplogroup C had done to the redheaded Si-Te-Cah.

The goal is to turn as many people as possible into ignorant, small-brained heterozygotic mongrels. We also feminize the goyim for our sexual pleasure;

>https://today.duke.edu/2014/08/feminization
>Technology boom 50,000 years ago correlated with apparent reduction in testosterone

Haven't you ever noticed how neanderthals look like super-Jews?
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>>133259997
>Shitskins are not people, what they do does not matter.
unless they breed you out.

The problem is, only responsible, 1st world nations have abortions and the worst shitholes in the world are deformed baby factories.
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>>133258589
>but why the fuck would anyone want those abominations?
because they are people who think inbreeding is ok.
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>>133260391
Demons can't outbreed humans if they are all dead.
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>>133257702
It's too late for them. You can't do anything about them other than end their pathetic lives. But soon-ish, you can simply prevent them from being born with those defects. That will be curable, because the babies even become that way.

And again, that is simply avoidable. Very easily. The question I asked wasn't why those abominations are a problem. That is self explanatory. The question was why is incest seen badly because of those things.

You don't blame planes for 9/11. Simply because planes CAN bring down buildings doesn't mean they have to, if you control them properly. Same logic can apply here. Incest can potentially result in the birth of non-human things, but that doesn't mean it has to. Especially if you control your sexual life properly, which is a lot easier than flying a fucking plane.
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>>133241834
Even apes are against incest.
I just watched a documentary on Koko the sign language ape, and she and the mate they found for her never had sex because she said she considered him her brother.
They said "incest is a taboo even in the ape world."
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>>133241834
Please don't associate Re:Life with incest :)
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>>133260688
>because the babies even become that way.
BEFORE the babies even become that way. A single wrong word changed the meaning of that sentence entirely, so I needed to correct that.
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>>133260428

If incest destroys society, why is it that the middle east, which has the highest rate of incest, is producing plenty of children and invading the west while Europe is dying out?

Why have our brains gotten smaller as we've gotten less inbred?
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>>133258688
>they couldn't predict their child would be a mutant before the first one.
They should have thought about it before breeding.
People who breed with their siblings don't have the right to be surprised when things go wrong. They deserve their fate.
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>>133261174
We seem to have a misunderstanding. I assumed the meme text on the image was just a meme, and they were not actually siblings. Incestuous breeding does not immediately lead to mutants unless the familial genes are especially shitty.
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>>133241834
Nobility turned into retards and cripples because of it, surely you've heard of Charles the second of Spain?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prognathism#Mandibular_prognathism_.28progenism.29

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2013/five-major-mental-disorders-share-genetic-roots.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect
Generally you also need to have grown up isolated from immediate family to be able to find them hot, so incest is rare.

also arabs are inbred as fuck thats one of the major reasons why there so aggressive.
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>>133246132
>>133246955
The problem is if you allow incest for generations you get a bunch of retards like Middle Easterners who are so stupid and inbred they follow islam a lot of the time.
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>>133243057
As an actual incest baby, I can absolutely attest to the fact that incest consistently gives health and mental disorders to the offspring. I'm twenty-five with advanced degenerative disc disease, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, and a host of mental problems. These are all fairly consistent in my mother's family, where the literal generations of incest too place.

Naturally, I'm never having kids. I refuse to pass this shit along to some innocent kid.
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>>133241834
Incest is cute in chinese cartoons but I wouldn't support it irl because gene problems
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>>133260923
>Why have our brains gotten smaller as we've gotten less inbred?
I provided a pic as proof to back up my statement that inbreeding is bad.
What proof/source have you provided to back up your statement that inbreeding is ok?
Also , the middle east is allowed to invade the west by the jews. Look up the kalergi plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJpYwGUC2v4
Combine this with the feminist/anti white propaganda in the west and you get the effect you mentioned, namely Europe Dying out.
It is all designed on purpose. Do your own research , and luck more.
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>>133261862
>literal generations of incest too place
This is the ticket right here. A brother and sister who do not come from a long line of incestuous breeding mate, the offspring has a doubled chance to get hit by recessive genes both negative and positive.
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Aki-Sora is a great anime.
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>>133262213
It's just been a difficult thing to process as I've gotten older. I'm not mentally handicapped by any means, but I have a lot of mental and physical issues. I'm just smart enough to realize that long term I'm fucked, and it's taken a lot of self-reflection to convince myself to actually try to live a normal life despite the genetic backwash I was created out of.

Ironically, incest porn does nothing for me either, despite being a product of it.

I will say that if there were a way that you could get a couple to agree to sterilization before marriage so that they could essentially ensure no reproduction happened, I'd have no issue with it. I absolutely don't want anyone to have to deal with what I'm stuck dealing with though.
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>>133241834
Incest is only cute when it stays in fiction.
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>>133261174

Incest produces a genetic bottleneck for your genes, and if you're a heterozygote one allele or the other will become homozygous. In other words, if both you and your sister are AB heterozygotes, your kids will all eventually be A or BB homozygotes.

You may even produce multiple kids, some AA homozygotes, others BB homozygotes. If A makes you a retard, all your AA kids will be retards. But your BB kids aren't even carriers of the retard allele.

In nature, the AA retards die, and the population becomes a bunch of BB homozygotes. Inbred populations either die out in the first generation because they all inherit the disease allele, or they're all perfectly healthy.

When people produce retard babies like this, it's because the parents have bad genes. Their kids are all AA homozygotic retards. The parents should have bred with other people, since they're genetically incompatable.

The thing is, the parents are both heterozygotes for AB, or else they'd be retards too. Their intellects are impaired by the A allele, and if we bred the A allele out of the world population, we would be better off and less genetically diverse.

And a homozygote for BB will always produce non-retards - it would better if we commited incest with our BB sisters than breed with the woman down the street with one A allele. Her allele pollutes your entire line, and the A allele can thereafter be concentrated to AA to produce a full retard.

Incest is the cure to this problem, not the cause. The cause of genetic illness was when humans bred with apes in Africa - beastiality made these children retards.
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>>133241834
Why are you so into incest? It makes no sense. Same sex marriage is now okay. So why choose incest? If people are allowed to choose who they love, regardless of sex, why would you obsess about fucking your sister/mother, since you're related.

The first issue would be fucked up babies, but that can be fixed by simply not fucking your relatives, and later playing God and killing yourself.
So I ask again. Why are you obsessed with fucking your mother/sister?
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>>133261862

ITT: the most interesting man on 4chan folks.

please do tell about the circumstances leading to your inception.
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>>133261378
>Incestuous breeding does not immediately lead to mutants unless the familial genes are especially shitty.
That may be true, it may not IMMEDIATELY lead to mutants but that doesn't make inbreeding a good choice, especially in a community/country in which generations have inbred in the past.
If defective recessive genes from one individual accumulate with the defective recesive genes from a sibling, then the genes will manifest in the offspring, even if both parents dont' exhibit the effects of those defective reccesive genes.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/basics/patterns/
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>>133262782
I guess I should be more specific and say that my mom and dad are not related in any way. His family was fucked in it's own way though.

What I've been told is that my mom's family literally started when a man and a woman had kids. The man ended up killing his wife at some point, and he fucked his daughter and had three kids, who all essentially just started fucking each other and making kids with one another, and with one another's kids and so on.

This goes on for what I've been told was literally eight generations of people. My grandma (mom's side) was literally disowned from her family for a long time for marrying outside the family. The tradition at the time being to marry a first cousin. Though her and her husband weren't related, they WERE sick fucks, and molested my mom, and her siblings, for many many years.
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>>133261862
Holy shit man. That's fucked up, i am sorry for you.
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>>133263363

well thanks for related that sordid tale.

you seem like a good sport and a cool guy. i'm sorry that you are suffering in this life due to other people's poor choices.
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>>133262749
Well, I wouldn't say obsessed. I saw the topic come up somewhere, I don't remember exactly where it was, but people's reaction to it was just that of pure disgust. So I got curious. Why is incest seen as something so much worse than homosexuality. Personally, the thought of fucking my sister is disgusting to me. But at the same time, the thought of fucking a man is even more disgusting. So why is only one of them, the more disgusting one, getting all the support?

The most obvious reason was genetic problems with babies, but if an incest couple never had babies, would people be okay with it? And with that thought in mind, I asked the question.
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>>133263717
No problem. I typically just lurk, but this is a subject I actually have enough first-hand experience on to speak.

The thing is, for a long time I had literally just given up on doing anything with my life. It was actually through this most recent election cycle, watching all these strangers contribute to a common good that sort of inspired me to get myself in order to the extent that I could. A few months later and my life is significantly better.
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>>133262749
>So I ask again. Why are you obsessed with fucking your mother/sister?
Yes, it is suspicious that OP insists so much on incest. It is possible he's one of (((them))) or maybe he's paid by (((them))) to promote this agenda. Who knows? We can't rule out this possibility.
Now that homosexuality is considered accepted, what is the next step? Pedophilia , incest and bestiality. It only gets more degenerate from here, until a tipping point is reached.
Weimar republic will burn once more.
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>>133262205

>I provided a pic as proof to back up my statement that inbreeding is bad.
What proof/source have you provided to back up your statement that inbreeding is ok?

The fact that our brains have gotten smaller since our ancient human ancestors. And the fact that being a homozygote for the non-diseased allele means you can never carry the diseased allele.

Europeans all have the light pigmentation alleles of SLC45A2 and SLC24A5. Most are homozygotes for the light alleles. One single copy of the dark allele gives you dark skin. Various alleles controlling neuron growth produce high IQ, and others produce low IQ. You want to be a homozygote for the high IQ version, and Europe and Asia are homozygotes.

>Also , the middle east is allowed to invade the west by the jews. Look up the kalergi plan

To destroy your homozygosity. All they have to do is make mixed race, heterozygotic babies, and suddenly the European IQ and skin color are gone.

Blue eyed blonds are inbred homozygotes, not mudblooded heterozygotes. Whiteness is recessive, and requires homozygosity (Lack of genetic diversity) to express.
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>>133262742
Don't stop posting please. I'm very interested.
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>>133241834
because it's a slipperty slope to fucking kids.
What is your name, what city are you living in, and why do you want to fuck children?

>inb4 slippery slopes aren't real
you lose before you're done speaking if you try to claim slippery-slopes aren't real.
>acceptance of homosexuality will NOT lead to pedophillia. stop being a bigot. --1990
So again, what is your name, in which city do you live, and why do you want to fuck children?
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>>133241834
> Incest fucked up babies is simply fixed by not having babies in the first place.
Well hello there JIDF, how many shekels have you earned over the last 24 hours??
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>>133241834
I have the same question with purging.
Why shouldn't I be able to kill people like you? Why is it illegal?

I honestly believe that the world would be a better place. But then again, each to is own, right?

Morality is what we make of it.
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>>133263218
>will manifest
Are more likely to manifest*

If two siblings are in a relationship but don't want their child to inherit and display the webbed feet gene they both carry, but then their surrogate happens to have the same gene, then using the surrogate would carry the same risk as them breeding.
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