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Was he right?

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Was he right?
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>>133240561
>/pol/ will believe this is a real quote
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>>133240710
He did want to do this though
Based winston
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>>133240710
It is. Look it up.
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>>133240710
Churchill was histories biggest kike shill. I might as well have said that.
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>>133240857
Fuck off.
Without him we would all be sucking hans's semen
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>>133241118
Well, maybe you might be but I wouldn't.
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>>133241118
Now Hans doesn't have semen...
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>>133241118
You're literally a German Bundesland with an accent.

If the nordcúcks ever uncuck themselves pangermanism will be the solution for the low population until birthrates are fixed
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>>133241118
Bullshit! We can't ALL be your mom.
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>>133240835
>that faggot kike who is singlehandedly responsible for the Europe (and arguably America) today
>based
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>>133241536
t. not even 150 year old country.
The Netherlands has been a country since 1588 you absolute cretin.
We actually fought Germans, Frogs, Spaniards and Britbongs for our independence.
I'd say we earned it. Also we are a much more tolerant and free country and always have been than those authoritarian Germans
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>>133241915
>LE BASED HITLER XXXXDDDDDDDD
Hitler was a great speaker and a good fit for Germany and in now way the same as Stalin but he went to far just as Germans always do, see Merkel.
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>>133240857
Well he wasn't wrong
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>>133241118
We'd be sucking Hans's semen on Mars*
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>>133242406
>being this mad at Hitler

I'd be mad as well if I got blitzed into surrender in half a week
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>>133242103
>Gets run over by frogs
>Loses orange and the lighter blue on their flag
>Flag is now sideways france
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>>133241590
>amerifat
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>>133242875
was he /ouranglo/?
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>>133240857
FACT: THAT'S WRONG, PACQUIAOS ARE THE STRONGEST RACE
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>>133242103
plz come back
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>>133242902
The american education meme is real
We had that flag from the beginning. It's the republican flag. Oranje Blanje Blue is a different flag cennected to the house of Orange. Also we beat the Frogs multiple times even though they were a 10x bigger country. And even in the Napoleonic war we won in the end.
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>>133243207
Wall street= De wallen
Harlem=Haarlem
New York=Nieuw Amsterdam
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>>133241915
You use a flag designed by a hapa subhuman with greeknigger ancestry
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>>133243454
it sucks that none of the colonial city is left, the canals, the walls, the starfort, the dutch architecture

it's like everything cool has to be destroyed here
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>>133243499
oh, hi again assblasted bohemian disapora

It's good to see that you've finally stopped lying about his ancestry being jewish, you're making progress. Next step is to stop lying that his ancestry is Greek
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>>133241118
I'd take it over Mohammad's. Beggars can't be choosers.
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dd
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>>133240561
What a fucking kike.
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>>133243823
Are you a Dutch descendant by any chance? Like the Roosevelts.
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>>133240561
>gambles away empire
>his propaganda ruins nationalism for everyone

He did his part for the decline of European nations in general and GB in particular. He was no hero.
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>>133243823
I've been there a few times.
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>>133243886
Subhuman Bulgarian, why don't you reveal your flag? Even in a universe where post-1000 grekoi filth are White, he's still a HAPA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallergis_family
The Kallergis (Greek: Καλλέργης) family is a CRETAN family
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>>133240857

>JEWS CONTROL THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD MAN GET WOKE
>WHAT HE SAID THAT JEWS ARE POWERFUL, THAT'S BILL SHIT JEWS AINT SHIT
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>>133240561
If it's real, then he was a complete and utter joke as he himself was a degenerate gambler and drunk.
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>>133244167
Yes, my surname is the same as a prominent Dutch-American family but near as I can tell we were always farmers or craftsmen. I'm Reformed too, but the Dutch Reformed got absorbed by the UCC which is one of the most limp-wristed denominations there are

I just wish we had more Dutch architecture left around here
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>>133243263
>we won in the end
You mean by backstabbing France in the back and joining a coalition comprised of all the strong nations of Europe?
Wow good job
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>>133241118
>>133242103
>>133242406
>>133243263

>be Dutch Republic
>help America win independence from Great Britain
>help provide inspiration for the American Republic
>gave serious thought to recognizing the Confederate States
>countless great Americans are of Dutch descent
>168 years American soldiers return the favor by helping the Netherlands win its independence back from Nazi Germany

Based Dutch.

Sorry we couldn't free you from the grip of the Nazis sooner and that it couldn't have been brought to you by those flying the banner of Dixie.
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>>133244281
star forts are awesome, really neat period in warfare. I've not been there but I've to Mifflin in Philadelphia, Ticonderoga, Stanwix, and the Kastellet in Copenhagen. Ticonderoga and Stanwix are basically reconstructions though

there's that really cool one in SC, Monroe
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>>133244839
Wouldn't it be amazing if parts of New York looked like this haha

Pic is Amsterdam the city I love but fear for
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>>133245156
>What is resistance
>What is Waterloo
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>>133241118
Holy fuck... Fucking Dutchnigger posting absolute bullshit...

If Chuchill died, us Brits would have not gone to war with Germany in the first place. We would have kept our non aggression pact and WW2 would never have started.

None of it.

That one fat ugly socialist kike loving jewish puppet fuck literally destroyed the UK.
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>>133241915
Despite being a washed out drunk, he was Hitlers better. Kek
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>>133245483
>us Brits would have not gone to war with Germany in the first place
You do know that Chamberlain was the Prime Minister in '39?
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>>133245483

>it's another "I think Churchill was PM when WW2 started" post
>who is Neville Chamberlain
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>>133245198
Thanks southanon.
The south should have won desu. Northern aggression and all.
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>>133245658
>>133245700
>these niggs
You have no idea how decisions in parliament work. Churchill had massive sway in parliament and over the government. The other MP who could have been prime minister would have not gone to war. Churchill wanted to go to war. Chamberlain had lost control of parliament and his own party at this point. Once it was obvious Churchill was going to win the party decided to take us to war.

Fucking kike niggers from Haasbara not even brave enough to post their countries flags. Fucking niggers.
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>>133245562
Germany almost defeated you even though they had significantly(!) less resources. And did you really win bong? No, the jews won and you bleed for it.
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>>133245483
Hitler Would conquer europe
>I am talking about bongistan
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>>133246085
>all of europe
bullshit. He'd have taken poland and would not have marched on france since Britain and France would not have gone to war with him.
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>>133245562
he was just an actor ((they)) used to keep morale high in britain until their coffers were totally bled and they could bring the USA into the war
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>>133245988
Pls don't reply because this is utter bull. It could also have been Halifax
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>>133245293
yeah, though it's obvious why they tore down all the fort and fortifications, even the earlier colonial structures were probably pretty shoddily made. So I can't entirely blame them, the US had a pretty bad habit of mismanagement of colonial architecture and tore down a lot of it around the 1830's or so. Philadelphia is an obvious testament of this
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>>133246324
>Netherland KEK gets the shit BTFO'd of him and all he can do is BEG for me not to reply
You dumb fucking piece of shit muslim rape bait cuckold cunt.
Get the FUCK out of my face you disgusting subhuman nordic scum.
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>>133245953

You're welcome ;)

Friendly reminder that Anne Frank would've survived and the Hunger Winter wouldn't have happened had it been the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee leading the race to Arnhem and the Rhine.
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>>133246521
what the fuck are you talking about? is this your victoria game?
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>>133246521
>Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee leading the race to Arnhem and the Rhine
Kek'd, Montgomery was one stupid fucker
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>>133240561
Yes, but the number should have been way higher
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>>133245988
>Churchill had massive sway in parliament and over the government.
Churchill was an oddity in parliament. He had no real sway, his warnings about Hitler were ignored until Hitler overstepped his bounds entering Poland. Halifax didn't want to lead the country through war. Churchill was the only one bold/stupid enough to take the job. Hitler hadn't planned on fighting a war in the west after taking France. War was decided already when Churchill took power, not as a result of Churchill. Hitler failed Germany and Europe. Histories biggest failure, ironically bested by a failure.
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>>133246513
Non German nazi LARPers are along with Plebbitmagafags the absolute worst of /pol/.
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>>133241118
would rather suck hans off than live with ahkmeds
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>>133246044
Woah you really showed me! Hows that bull doing, Lars?
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>>133247011
>he had no real sway
>someone with no real sway or connections and just an oddity becomes prime minister
Holy fuck you are dumb.
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>>133247276
>I don't know how parliament works
Every MP gets a vote. One MP does not dictate what everyone else votes. No one listened to Churchill during the Chamberlain era, else he wouldn't have allowed Hitler to rearm, annex Austria and then invade Czechoslovakia. They listened to the raving old kook, good for only a few witty putdowns, when they realized he was right. I'm simplifying slightly but that is the jist.
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>>133247276
Go and look on youtube at David Irving speaking about Churchill.

He was floated into a position of power by (guess who "the focus group"), prior to this he held a parliamentary position but actually did very little.
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>>133247804
Do... Do you even read what you fucking type?
I mean how fucking wrong and illogical do you need to be?
>someone who is a nobody got into power
Are you fucking shitting me kid?
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>>133246661

Shut up and let me enjoy my fantasy goddamnit.

>>133246720
>Montgomery was one stupid fucker

Yeah he kinda was. General Horrocks also made the error of not pressing on to Arnhem immediately after seizing Nijmegen bridge, even though American paratroopers were jumping on his tanks expecting to do so. A mistake that proved fatal for 1st Airborne.

Stonewall Jackson and Nathan Bedford Forrest would have never been so foolish as to give their enemy 18 hours of breathing room. They would have pressed their men on in a mad dash for those last 12 miles come Hell or highwater.
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>>133247994
Read:>>133247933
Churchill wasn't an influential figure pre-war. He didn't even get elected post war. Try responding with arguments *ahem* 'kid'.
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>>133248395
*influential figure
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>>133248395
>someone who wasn't influential became prime minister
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
What are you some kind of fucking muslim immigrant?
You're a fucking moron! A fucking dumb fucking cunt if I've ever seen one!
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>>133248492
He didn't hold some kind of magic sway over parliament and lobby for war. He wasn't even first choice for the job of PM. Halifax turned it down. What he did do is not relent once the war started, despite repeated attempts to make a peace deal.
>hurr durr Muslim
Wew
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>>133240561
First in line should be alcoholic prime ministers financed by Jews to start genocidal wars.
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>>133248960
>halifax turned it down
Okay I can see now you don't know fucking nothing about the history involved here. I was just memeing but you're actually ignorant and fuck.
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>>133249126
>On Neville Chamberlain's resignation early in May 1940, Halifax effectively declined the position of Prime Minister despite widespread support across the political spectrum, as he felt that Winston Churchill would be a more suitable war leader
Why can't stormies do history?
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>>133249571
>copying and pasting from (((wikipedia)))
It's alright. I would expect a dumb fucking muslim cunt to read a book.
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>>133249126
Are you a negro? You can barely form a coherent sentence without adding profanity.

Please go back to /b/ and don't come back.
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>>133249677
>h-how dare you add profanity!
>HOW DARE YOU
Hahahaha get mad you muzzie cunt.
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>>133249660
Is it wrong though? Wikipedia was a convenient source, nothing more.
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>>133241118
the amount of treasonous anti-patriotism from supposed "nationalists" makes me facepalm, too
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>>133249660
>"PM said I was the man mentioned as most acceptable. I said it would be hopeless position. If I was not in charge of the war (operations) and if I didn't lead in the House, I should be a cypher. I thought Winston was a better choice. Winston did not demur."

Have a quote from Halifax's diary entry on the day it happened, then.
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>>133241118
You're German with little more English
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>>133250091
>he keeps posting from wikipedia!
Come on kid. You're just fucking embarrassing yourself now. Why don't you sit down like a good little child. Dumb fucking nigger.
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>>133249660
where is your source you traitorous cunt?
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>>133250241
That wasn't me. If you would care to share with us the "correct" version of what happened, I'd be grateful. Also, which sources haven't been compromised by Jews?
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>>133250241
No, the source is 'The Diaries of Sir Alexander Cadogan O.M 1938-45'. It's like nobody ever showed you how to use Wikipedia properly.
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>>133250613
oh he knows what a footnote is. He just knows he's cornered after being called out on his stormfaggotry so he's throwing insults around in attempt to save face
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>>133250602
>>133250256
>Spoonfeed me! SPOONFEED ME PLS I'm too retarded to read books on my own!
>SPOON FEED ME ON IT I NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO AT ALL TIMES AND HOW TO DO IT
>PLS SPOONFEED ME!
>AND WIPE MY BUM TOO!
Good lord. The dumbest little shits ever fucking frequent this shitness.
Why don't you vapidly masturbate to Churchill-san you fat fucking pig cunt. Spend some sperm on that jewish kike loving scum and believe he saved GB from Hans when we would have never gone to war without him.
Go on.
Go on little baby child.
Fucking muslims man. The most scummiest people on earth save the satanic kikes.
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>>133242103
actually the concept of Italy is thousands if years old
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>>133240857
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>>133250890
>using the word kike
that's the instant giveaway that you're frustrated by your inability to poz a thread with your hitler fanboyism. I'm screencapping your post so that I can add it to a compilation of shitty naziboo logical fallacies.
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@133250890
(You)
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>>133251371
>poland kike mad he's being called out
Polish killed kikes.
They murdered them in (((gas chambers))).
You poles are antisemetic.
What now you kike loving fuck.
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>>133251040

Only Mosley deserve to be on that picture
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Herbert Hoover on Winston Churchill:

"I had occasion to become acquainted with Churchill in the First World War, and later with Baldwin and Chamberlain. Intellectual integrity was not Churchill’s strong point; it was the outstanding quality of the other two. Churchill possessed a surpassing power of oratory and word pictures; the other two lacked both these qualities. Churchill’s character was absolutely ruthless; the other two were men of scrupulous regard for the rights of others. Churchill was irresponsible in statement; while the other two statesmen were the soul of honest presentation. They were, therefore, no equal for Churchill in the arts of demagoguery. Churchill has imprinted on the world the notion that these two statesmen were inept, without courage, supine, and without direction in their policies.

Nor was Churchill the “Liberal” which he called himself. He had opposed the Wilson program of a democratized Europe at the time of Versailles. Churchill of course, was opposed to Communism, but future historians must assess upon him some responsibility in bringing on the war between the Western Democracies and Hitler and, as such, being a powerful supporter of Stalin." - Freedom Betrayed
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>>133250890
>"Nuh-uh! That's not what happened and your sources are all wrong!"
>"Okay then, show me some sources that support your argument."
>"RREEEEEE HOW DARE YOU! SPOONFEEDING! SPOONFEEDING! ACCEPT MY POINTS WITH NO EVIDENCE OR YOU'RE A JEW!"

This is some of the worst arguing I've ever seen on /pol/. I'm honestly impressed.
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>>133251565
can some native English speaker tell me if the
>Polish killed kikes.
is gramatically correct? I thought you needed to preceed the adjective that signals the nationality ("Polish") with a definite article ("the") when using the nation-referencing adjective as a noun. Have I been lied to or is he on the left side of the bong Bell curve?
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>>133240561
Who is this?
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>>133244839

>UCC
>most limp-wristed

I'd be amazed if they were more limp-wristed that the UMC.
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>>133251861

"His bitter attacks on Chamberlain, together with the loss of prestige from Hitler’s betrayal in marching into Prague, drove the Prime Minister into the most gigantic blunder of trying to stop Hitler’s march east by the Polish Guarantee. If the British had not departed from their traditional “balance of power” policy with the Polish Guarantee of March 26, 1939, they would have kept the Western Democracies out of war, at least until the two satans were greatly exhausted by warring on each other.

Churchill supported the Polish guarantee at the time but in his book, ten years later, he spends much space on demonstrating its futility.
Churchill elaborates extensively on his claims of Chamberlain’s errors. In these attacks he ignores the price demanded by Russia of effectual domination of the Baltic States and Eastern Poland, which no decent statesman could accept, and which became clear long before the book was written, for the annexation had already taken place. In his book, despite all subsequent revelations, he dismisses the crux of the negotiation for an alliance with Stalin with a statement that these dispatches have never been published.

He says, “There can be no doubt even in the after light that Britain and France should have accepted the Russian offer” (page 262). This sentence was written nine years after and the “after light” could well be a cover for the fact that he, in the course of his statesmanship of the war, had joined in the surrender of all these independent democracies to Russian slavery. At the time, however, Chamberlain and his ministry seemed to consider such a transaction immoral." - Herbert Hoover, Freedom Betrayed
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>>133240710
>>133240835

Easily the most evil man in all of Britain's history. He oversaw the break up of the UK, encouraged it and the collapse of the Empire.

Those degenerate Brits should have been put in camps because they are the ones that have multiplied into the Anglo mogrel we are stuck with today.

He threw away everything that made Britain great. He abandoned us and oversaw our families being burned out of their homes, their property stolen and children murdered.
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>>133252515
>Have I been lied to or is he on the left side of the bong Bell curve?

I'm no grammar expert but I'm pretty sure you're correct. 'Polish killed kikes' just doesn't sound right.
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>>133252515
It is poor grammar. It would be passable in an informal setting. Go easy on him though; he is used to communicating through grunts and clumsy hand gestures.
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>>133245198
I swear I see you with your confed flag and your Anne Franke anime picture everywhere
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>>133253205
>>133253409

"Polish" is an adjective unless you're talking about shoes, in which case it could be a noun or verb. The correct noun form is Pole or the plural Poles. Since the implication is all Poles, the definite article "the" is appropriate instead of the indefinite "a".

Kikes should be capitalized because, even though it's a slur, it's still a proper noun. However, it is acceptable and normal for racial slurs to remain uncaptalized, e.g. niggers.

So the grammatically correct sentence is: "The Poles killed kikes." It's also more or less historically true.
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Using this argument, because Churchill talked about it and because there is a 100k dip in the census of the UK, 100,000 brits were killed.
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>>133240561
Churchill was "right" about absolutely fucking nothing, from storing munitions on the Lusitania in order to have it sank by Germans and get the US involved in WWI, to declaring war on Germany for invading Poland while letting the USSR do the exact same thing at the exact same time without complaint. The dude was probably more evil than Hitler and was responsible entirely for WWII and responsible also for many failures and evils in WWI and also the loss of all British colonies.
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>>133240561

Says the fat fuck alcoholic.
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>>133255722
>The dude was probably more evil than Hitler

Hitler was evil?
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>>133255089
You don't strictly need the "the" in there, though it's absence makes the sentence much more blunt.
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>>133256611
FUCK
its'*
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>>133255722

Churchill was indirectly responsible for the Germans starting to use unrestricted submarine warfare. Churchill, as First Lord of the Admiralty, directed the construction of Q-ships, disguised armed merchant ships. When German submarines would surface to inspect a ship looking for contraband, hidden guns would be brought to bear on it. Churchill also encouraged merchant ships to fly neutral colors and to ram German submarines when they surfaced. These practices were all banned by the 1897 Hague Convention, although Britain never signed it.

Churchill was for his whole life, literally a man who failed upwards.
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>>133254174

Anne Frank is the unofficial queen of /dixiepol/

I'll explain with a greentext some Virginiafag did

>be me
>grow up near Henrico County, Virginia
>Be Sons of Confederate Veteransfag
>used to attend reenactments all over the state when I lived there
>realize the Diary of Anne Frank was published on the exact same day the Seven Days Battles (mainly took place in and around Henrico County just outside Richmond) with began in 1862
>Robert E. Lee successfully repulsed McClellan's advance on Richmond and gave chase, but was stopped at Glendale and Malvern Hill and thus were unable to prevent the Army of Potomac from retreating back across the James River
>one of several missed opportunities for Lee to destroy the Union Army in open battle and win the war
>Union victory in the American Civil War marked the beginning of increasingly aggressive U.S. expansionism that ultimately culminated in the World Wars and the rise of the Superpowers
>rise of the Soviet Union, the Nazis, and the human tragedy that followed is in part the blowback of American meddling in the First World War
>if the Army of Northern Virginia had broken through at Malvern Hill and destroyed McClellan's forces while they were still trapped on the banks of the James, Lee would've been free to move against Washington and could've forced Lincoln to sue for peace
>realize the entire tragic chain of events over the course of 83 years that led to the World Wars, the rise of the Nazis, the Holocaust, and Anne Frank's death could've been prevented at least partially or in their entirety
>Anne could've been a happy housewife and mother, enjoying a peaceful life in Amsterdam, if only Lee's plans had been properly coordinated and executed in the last days of June, 1862
>My God... We failed her.

TL;DR Deo Vindice (God Vindicates)
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>>133240561

>talks about degenerates
>was a raging alcoholic

Lmao
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>>133240561
I rest my case.
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>>133256995

>he doesn't enjoy Johnny Walker Red & Cola

fag
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>>133256175
No, that's why Churchill was more evil.
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>>133255722
>declaring war on Germany for invading Poland while letting the USSR do the exact same thing at the exact same time without complaint
ehh to be fair to him the Anglo-Polish allience only guaranteed that each side would bail the other out in case of a German invasion and said nothing about the USSR
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>>133256816

I think we ought to rethink these rules of war and rules of engagement. My opinion of this changed due to the Sri Lankans literally driving the Tamil Tigers (TT) into the sea after bending over backward to placate meddling westerners for about three decades. Each time the TT would use the ceasefire as a cover to regroup and re-arm. The result? More death.

If you're going to war then it had better be for damn good reasons and you had better intend win it. Tying one arm behind one's back is foolhardy. A successfully waged war will reduce the enemy to a trembling mess when they just hear your name. "Genghis Khan approaches!!!" Mass hysteria.

Summary executions on the beach, just like the Sr Lankans did it. Bombard the human shields. That's how war is won. You don't leave survivors to fight another day or make your own people feel guilty.
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>>133257806

After news of the Katyn Massacre came out, the Soviets of course blamed the Germans, but also demanded of Churchill that the eastern postwar border of Poland would be the Curzon Line. Either Churchill agree to that or Stalin would negotiate a separate peace with Hitler. Churchill and Roosevelt both agreed. The Polish Government-in-Exile was outraged that 40% of their country would be given to the Soviet Union. Stalin created the Union of Polish Patriots, made up of Polish communists, as a new government and forced the London based government to the sidelines.

You Poles got played again and again and kept coming back for more. You would have been better off if you had cut a deal with Hitler.
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>>133259335
There was no choice. Hitler wanted Europe. I'm not denying the Western betrayal but giving in to Hitler's demands would only postpone the inevitable. Keep in mind that in 1939, the Polish state only existed for 20 years since the late 18th century (!). There was no way we could hope to outpace Stalin or Hitler when it came to strengthening our respective militaries. Hiding behind the backs of Anglos was the only option.
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>>133260640
>only existed
had only existed*
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>>133259302

There is an argument that can be made for "total war" and Churchill was a true believer in the concept. However, one must expect that bad behavior will be repaid with bad behavior on the other, i.e. shoot your prisoners and we'll shoot ours, bomb our cities and we'll bomb yours.

Still, comparing a bunch of savages like the Tamil Tigers to European nations of the 1900's is false equivalence. Europeans were trying through the Hague and Geneva conventions to bring some kind of sanity to warfare and to spare its effects on non-combatants.
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>>133260640
>Hitler wanted Europe

No he didn't
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>>133261043
how can our lebensraum be real if our holocaust isn't real?
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>>133240561
No, troublesome elements of society should be used to colonize new regions. In a survival situation the truly worthless will die off and the rest will reform. Strengthens the home land and civilizes and whitens new lands.
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>>133245483
Retarded revisionist view of history
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>>133260640
>There was no choice. Hitler wanted Europe.

Nonsense and postwar propaganda. Hitler wanted Danzig back in the Reich. That's what all this was about. Danzig had a 97% German population at the time. He was willing to guarantee the 1919 borders even though the plebiscites promised by Poland in the Treaty of Versailles never happened.

If Marshall Pilsudski hadn't died, Poland would have been aligned with Germany against Soviet Russia. Anybody who was not an idiot and who could read a map knew that the British-French guarantee was worthless.
Unfortunately for Poland, you had an arrogant idiot in the form of Ryzd-Smigly as your leader.
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>>133262055

Herbert Hoover's conversation with Joseph Kennedy, former Ambassador to Great Britain:

"Kennedy said that after the Germans had occupied Prague and the great cry of appeasement had sprung up in the world and after the Germans had pressed their demands for Danzig and a passage through the Corridor, that Roosevelt and Bullitt [William Bullitt, Ambassador to France, first US Ambassador to the Soviet Union] were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles. Kennedy said he had received a cable from Roosevelt to “put a poker up Chamberlain’s back and to make him stand up.” Kennedy saw Chamberlain on numerous occasions, urging him in Roosevelt’s name to do all this with the implication that the United States would give the British support. He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.

Kennedy claimed that he was constantly urging Roosevelt not to be engaged in this question, but his urgings were to no avail. Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this the most gigantic blunder in history."
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>>133262478
>Nonsense and postwar propaganda
Hitler describes his hard-on for Eastern European Lebensraum in Mein Kampf. Gdańsk was merely the first bite.
>Poland would have been aligned with Germany against Soviet Russia
and gone down with the rest of the Axis
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>>133255089
Only on /pol/ would there be a discussion on the proper grammar of a statement inferring genocide.
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>>133249889
This
Non german hitler suckers are the worst
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>>133263791
>and gone down with the rest of the Axis
No invasion of Poland, no WWII. As simple as that.

Although, Roosevelt wanted Germany destroyed. Roosevelt also wanted to dismantle the British Empire. His comments years before the fact reveal this. So by maneuvering all parties towards war, he achieved both goals.
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>>133259302
That is the only way to fight a war. These wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan(Russia and USA), Iraq etc.
All of which could have been ended in a year or two with less lose of life if the bigger power just killed everything that did not surrender when asked. You don't have to shoot prisoners if fact that is counter productive. But blowing a town to bits is much more effective than making people angry by busting down their doors.

If you kill the terrorist and everyone that would be angered by their death you don't create more terrorists.
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