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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>>133229628
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage
Thanks for the laugh mate
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>>133229628
>all marxists.org links
Alright, I'll bite

Compare the number of modern inventions we use today that came from communist countries vs everywhere else. China, a country consisting of almost half the world's population, most of them highly-intelligent, yet their inventions pale in comparison to the US', a country merely 400 years old. Chinese have very little incentive for inventing anything.

Don't give me that "hurr america would be nothing without their manufacturing." You mean their slave labor? Followed by their insanely high suicide rates?
The US makes the blueprints, the commies produce the slaves; which everyone should see as a problem.
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How's Venezuela doing???
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>ML

STOP RUINING THE LEFT
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>>133231931
"In 1946, American theoretical astrophysicist Lyman Spitzer was the first to conceive the idea of a telescope in outer space, a decade before the Soviet Union launched the first artificial satellite, Sputnik into orbit."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_inventions_(1946-91)

You really think your "space-race" is justification that communism is viable? It's a collection of efforts from many nations. Privatized companies are making greater strides nowadays than government funded research. One day any company will be able to launch satellites into space - this has nothing to do with what form of government their host country practices.
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>>133229628

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
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bump just to see what happens
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>>133232674

It's important to keep the historical context in mind. The US had two hundred years of unfettered development, largely free from the interference of other nation-states. Free from the threat of external invasion. The one major war fought on the US' soil was, albeit bloody, a relatively short civil war that left the pre-existing government intact, and much of the country untouched.

In 1905, Russia was a feudal backwater. Not only the last bastion of feudalism, but with the especially brutal variant that only existed in Russia. No Noblesse Oblige, no Magna Carta. A serf under the Tsar was practically a slave. The Russo-Japanese War in that year proved how much of a laughingstock the country was when it actually lost a war against Japan. Managing to be the first Europeans to be beaten by a non-European power. Not even a decade later, it was embroiled in World War I. That's the historical background for the foundation of the USSR. Almost immediately there was the Russian Civil War to contend with. Not even a generation later, World War Two started, and Hitler invaded. The massive human cost of fighting on that front was worse in the Soviet Union than anywhere else. At least 20 million people died. And right after that, the Cold War. All of this while continuing to deal with a drought and famine on average every 5-7 years, for all of Russia's history in the past thousand years. Under tsarism, under Leninism, under capitalism.

In that context, the Soviet contributions to space travel are incredibly impressive. It's not alone an argument that communism is correct, or their brand of communism, but it was a major series of accomplishments.
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>>133237022
im watching you.
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>>133237175

Why would we kill workers operating the means of production?
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>>133231931
Not bad for shitposting. We got to the moon without starving and murdering millions of our own citizens. ;D
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>>133238908
Excellent false equivalency.
>If you include centuries of world events, you get a bigger number than gulags, you know!
Not to mention that apparently Communist countries don't war, eh?
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>>133237338
Who do you think antifa rallies target? They don't go to rich neighborhoods and remove the Billionaires from power (48% Jewish), they attack working neighborhoods and block highways that workers need to go from home to work and back.
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>>133229628
There be never Revolution so long people have to eat and sleep!
With suffer there comes the awakening
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embrace communism
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>>133231931
Commie posters > lolbert posters
Who /natsoc/ here?
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>>133241990
>tfw your only victory was almost a century ago and only a victory in the sense that your people were starving slightly less.
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>be communist
>starve to death
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