Nationalism isn't the endgoal

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>>133208035
But did we want that issue? If someone wanted this, then that where'n't certainly us.

First, nationalism - is a product of the Modernity. Exactly as the rest of political theory of Modernity - liberalism and communism. It is based on the denial of the spirit of Middle Ages and on the refuse of the traditions of the Empire and of Christ. It is bourgeois at its roots and in its essence. It may be a little better than liberalism and communism (that explicitly destroy identity of the people and religion), but nationalism is infected with the same poison - secularism, rationalism, atheism. It is other version of Westoxication (Occidentosis) --Gharbzadegi of person Heideggerian philosopher Ahmad Fardid called it.

Secondly, nationalism will revive inevitably dormant conflicts between nations, peoples and religions, aggravate them and lead to war. Maybe globalists just want that and prepare that secretly (as their plan B). They hope to outlast another civil war in Europe, and then they will come back with renewed vigor with its "pacifist" demagoguery. And having shed the ocean of blood, the peoples will take them up again. And from there it is a short step to the World Government. Such plan can easily be born in the brain of the Antichrist.

Therefore, the collapse of the Liberals, we have to use it for own purposes and we should not fall into the trap of nationalism. Listen to the communist garbage is of no use at all. Hence, it is necessary to focus on the Fourth Political Theory.

>>133208171
It is based on the existential understanding of the people (as a whole - people as Dasein), but it ascend to the Logos, to the intellectual elite of the Fourth Way. And this elite of the Fourth Way can not be a nationalist - it should be imperial, great-continental, traditionalist, metaphysical and sacred. And it needs to understand Daseins of all peoples, and to take into account its fine core, to understand their Logos, to listen to the quiet voice hidden in the depths of people's Being.

This elite of Fourth Way will collide with demagogues and hysterical "leaders", that a wave of new nationalism inevitably will bring to the front as the foam on the surface of fermenting sea. And the battle begins now. It would be better that neo-nationalist monster would be strangled in the cradle. But it is about to appear.

Therefore, now - after Trump's great succes - is relevant as never before the general plan for fundamental conservatives and traditionalists all over the world - at least of America, Europe, Russia, Iran, Turkey and the rest of Eurasia (and the others who will join us). We need a common front aimed not only at the rest of the Liberals (finish to drain liberal Swamp is technical task now), but as well to prevent and neutralize new nationalism.

We need to return to the Being, to the Logos, to the foundamental- ontology (of Heidegger), to the Sacred, to the New Middle Ages - and thus to the Empire, religion, and the institutions of traditional society (hierarchy, cult, domination of spirit over matter and so on). All content of Modernity - is Satanism and degeneration. Nothing is worth, everything is to be cleansed off. The Modernity is absolutely wrong -- science, values, philosophy, art, society, modes, patterns, "truths", understanding of Being, time and space. All is dead with Modernity. So it should end. We are going to end it.

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>>133208409
Let us listen the words of Apollo to the defeated serpent Python (Πύθων,) - "you are to rot!" (πύθω!) The same can be said to Hillary Clinton and to European bureaucracy. Stay to rot there! Our battle is not with you - the main scene of titanomachy is moved to another front.

4PT versus 3PT.

http://4pt.su/en/content/traps-and-dead-ends-new-nationalism
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WHAT DO U THINK POL? WILL NATIONALISM BE THE LAS KEKOLDRY TO BE DEFEATED?

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>>133208035
>>133208171
> soon the word "fascist" will mean only the obscenity and will loose its sense completely.

Wouldn't be so sure mate. Right now 'Fascist' is screamed in hatred and loathing at those who do not even identify as Fascist.

Once the dogma and taboo of Fascism and NatSoc is finally shaken off (and it is happening). The screams of 'Fascist' shall be in fear and terror as the children of a nation march against the unclean hordes.


Also never forget Religion>Politics.

>>133208035
>>133208171
>>133208409
>>133208579
tl;dr Nationalism isn't the end of the game, just the modernist wheel spinning a few degrees more. This isn't the endgame, this won't last forever. The wheel will be destroyed and a new age rid of modernist cancer will flourish

>>133208606
Thats what he said. It has no meaning anymore. Ask random people what fascism is. They have no idea.

Its just a word u throw at things and people u dont like

>>133208035
Daily reminder that this guy promotes full-blown censorship and thinks that the internet should be permanently banned in society

>>133208863
Not an argument
Plus
>flag
>against censorship
Yeah right, Hans

>>133208863
Doesn't sound incredibly terrible.
Especially in a healthy state.

>>133208945
>>133209112
His way of thinking is outdated. The censorship thing aside, he believes that Physics and Chemistry should be banned as well and that society should return to a more primitive pre-technological condition so the state can control the population easier

On top of that, he's an unironical nazbol

>>133209199
Fake news and still not an argument in any way and umrelstef to op

he's too pussy to call himself a racist.
he contradicts himself all the time. he just appeals to what the host nation in which he gives a speech wants to hear.
reminder that the russian establishment does not listen to him because in his books he says only a regional power goes for control of the black sea or the caspian.
a world power goes after the indian ocean and the atlantic.
aka war with iran and western europe.

>it's another infect the western youth with doctrines that undermine their societies episode

Fuck off and suck putins cock some more you shill cunt

>>133210381
Fake news, and he just criticized Putin as an agent of modernization too, although better than most
>>133210290
He isn't a racist. He s a traditionalist. Racial nstionalism is still degenerate modernist bs

>>133210290
And Russia is not supposed to be a world power because hegemonh of any kind is modernist. Regional continental traditionalist and metaphysical empires are what he defends

>>133210677

Well if not an obvious psyop then you're obviously a useful idiot

>>133210914
Australia would be far more relevant under the 4PT

>>133210677
>He isn't a racist. He s a traditionalist.
yeah, that's bullshit. what does traditionalism even mean? culture changes over time. they used to burn witches. now they don't.
i suspect he is a racist but he dodges the question everytime.

>>133210772
>hegemonh of any kind is modernist. Regional continental traditionalist and metaphysical empires are what he defends
he says that from a position of weakness.
great power politics don't work that way.
at the state level there is an anarchic system. meaning there is no international police to call when someone invades you.
so naturally you want to control as much land and people as possible.
through hard power and the soft power via media propaganda.

Дyгин зaлoгинcя

>>133211051
>yeah, that's bullshit. what does traditionalism even mean? culture changes over time. they used to burn witches. now they don't.
>poltard education
And controlling as much land and people as possible isn't hegemony
>>133211109
I dunno what that is, but I recognize you are the same pidorashka shill that always shows up to derail these threads

>>133211298
culture changes. race does not. you're clinging to bullshit. a nice warm steamy pile of shit.
read the definition of hegemony, freaktard.

>>133211298
http://4pt.su/en/content/counter-hegemony-theory-multipolar-world-0

>>133208688
not bad. Not sure why nationalism can't survive the fall of materialism however.