Australian Born Chinese

>>133207419
This is not at all what was suggested to you.

>>133207419
a miserable time awaits you

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>>133207419
>It's time to for the mouse born in a horse stable to go bck to his mouse house to learn how to be a mouse before returning to his horse stable.

>>133207703
Elaborate

>>133207419
You think none of us browse /r9k/? I know you're being sent back to China by your parents to live with your grandparents because they hope it will make you stop being a virgin NEET.

>>133207706
its a mouse who thinks he's a horse

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SUCK SHIT

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>>133207419
>>133207759

>>133207419

try not to die. china sounds dangerous.

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gook
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Rip nisem, take kike king with you as well?

Just stay in Australia that place is a shithole already

>>133207419
>Good bye guys. It's time to for the mouse born in a horse stable to go bck to his mouse house to learn how to be a mouse before returning to his horse stable.

Fuck that sounds beyond retarded.

Please bring your entire family and the whole population of their village back to Australia so we can dig a big hole in the desert and fertilise the dirt with your corpses you yellow monkey fuck.

went to mainland china w/ big titty chinese-leaf wife. 2/10. not worth the $.

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>>133207759
That was a copy and pasta that started in march 2016. At that time i was seeing a hypnotherapist and told her i planned to go to china to live with my grandparents to make me normal again.
At that time i have already been a seasoned internet shitposter and r9k regular. I decided to make the story stereotypically amusing to cater to the western audience. Whos going to believe me if i said im going to china unfuck my life up? But if i said my dad wants to send me to china, oh man not only is it more believable it's also something to laugh at.
And the thing is, i know i will go to china one day. I will renew my passport, get my visa, buy air ticket.
By that time i have already made numerous reposts about myself.
Now i have the proof im going to china and and now ppl like you are actually convinced that my dad is sending me there.

I havent been to china after 2007 due to a high school problem. My dad had asked me if i want to go to china only to see grandparents as part of a holiday. Going to china had always been been on my mind. And i refuse to say "go back to china" because i am not like the chinese in china. You western dumbcunts have no idea of china and are silly to think Western born Chinese are like the chinese from china.
In some respect i'd rather be a mainlander. mainlanders are competitive and go getters. Western born chinese are cucked by western upbringing and deprived of inner strength

>>133207419
Ha ha, prepare to get fucked by every cop for looking Chinese and not having a Chinese national ID card.

>>133208623
no-one cares gook. off you go

>>133208623
So daddy is ashamed of you and shipping you off to die. Noice.

>>133208901
Tfw didnt get to be a doctor and bring dishonour to mummy and daddy

Go to north korea and try stealing some posters.

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>>133208830
Fuck you. Ill show you how i play dota

>>133208343
Cant. He's too convinced that he's a horse. Not to mention he has an anglo girlfriend.

>>133209051
I thought chinks played lol? And its flips and south koreans that played dota?

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>>133207419

>>133208623
Prove yer not like other Chinese - Are dogs mans best friend or food ? Post pic of you and your dog .

>>133208623
GOOK
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>>133207419

should be great. I mean, you're great, so all your people should be great too. a better country than a former white prison colony, right?

report back, ausgookbro

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>>133209231
Dumb standard of measurement.
Infact, ill go to china and record myself petting a dog in the food store then record it being cooked alive and record myself eating it to piss off you westerners.

All the stereotypes you have of the chinese in the west are chinese who got cucked by western upbringing

https://youtu.be/cJDn-rLv53E
Compare how he two chinese-americans are presenting themselves compared to the two chinese from china.

Also pic related

>>133209205
Lewl i havent even touched dota 2 or lol. I used to play dota with mainlanders in high school

>>133209231
Swiss eat doge, too.

>>133209470
" i am not like the chinese in china "
Apparently you are .

>>133209850
I can only wish, my friend but im just a clusterfuck brought up in the west with chinese migrant parents.

>>133209704
They must have some chinese DNA

>>133207419
>Good bye guys. It's time to for the mouse born in a horse stable to go bck to his mouse house to learn how to be a mouse before returning to his horse stable.
Is this an elaborate penis joke?

>>133209982
Well pick a fucking side . You with them or us ?

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>>133207759
Chang BTFO

>>133207419
Hopefully you get eaten and don't come back

>>133210012
Look man, im going to eat a dog in china and describe the entire experience from start to finish. Lets hope it gets some mad views.

>>133209982
What was it like being brought up in a Western country as a gook? Did you fit in at school or were you bullied?

>>133210148
They all know KUNG-FU

>>133208623

>I was only pretending

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>>133210144
You seem lonely , Need a BFF ? How about a dog ?

>>133210148
Western born chinese are mostly grouped into two types. Let me add that in the west people refer to the chinese as asian, from here i will refer to them as asians.
Two types of asian, cool asian & nerd asian.
Cool asian - lifts, tattoos, hangs out with fellow geoup of cool hardcunt asians.
Nerd asian - studies, plays video games, watch anime, listen to parents.
No i didnt fit in with either group. Yes i got bullied by a minor group asian, the multicultural asian. From memory, i fit in best with the mainlander students, even then language was the biggest barrier

>>133210436
>doesnt like it when he fell for the troll

>>133210082
Them. China is a rising power. The west is tearing itself apart.

>>133210762
Scratch that. Im with you but i but not out of choice. I can never be a real mainlander

>>133207419

godspeed chinkface

>>133210040
No, obviously he means that a child born to aliens does not become American/Australian/Icelandic just because he is born there.

>>133210913
I know, you fucked up in this life. You haven't been through grinding Chinese school and state examination process but also haven't been accepted to an Ivy League / Oxbridge uni. All Mainlanders by default will take you for a retard goof. I just hope your grandparents will find you not-so-ugly wife.

>>133211188
Youre talking about the elite of the chinese.
What message are you trying to make?

>>133210913
Most of us on pol aren't accepted by society . I've always been a misfit / weirdo . But on 9/11 we were all on the same team

>>133211288
>message

I was just trying to troll you brah. If I were you I'd be wary of your grandparents trying to marry you off, that's the only message.

I just want to make an observation that obviously your parents fucked up with assimilation and fucked up your identity. I'd teach my children culture, history and civics of our adoptive country and encourage them to consider themselves to be citizens of that country first and foremost, up to the point of not speaking my native language with them. Obviously your parents failed to do this. It's just somehow retarded that they immigrated to Aus and now you want to immigrate back to the country of origin.

>>133207419
Who said anything about returning?
Stay and make China Great.

>>133211799
>Who said

Le ticket is le return (quite obviously)

>>133211676
Lmao that will never happen. Also you're right, my parents discouraged me from speaking english and are always talking about china number 1.

Most western born chinese of chinese migrant families takes the flight to china to visit their relatives and have a holiday every year or so. My experiences in china is far more positive than Australia but i have no intention of studying and working in china. Ill go there to undo a mental block then come back to Australia

>>133212369

bring back waifus for /auspol/

>>133208623
>China
>normal

Pick one.

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>>133214338
Fuck you betrayer

>>133215299
>implying staying in Australia is better for me
>implying staying amongst nosey bogans (yes they still exist in Sydney) and arabs and living within paradoxical PC safe space bubble will help me.
Dude, america number 1

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>>133207419
Your mental state might improve but I guarantee your driving wont. Also bring back some duty free smokes and one of those 4 year old kids that make nikes.

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>>133219135
ill think about it

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>>133219624
Being too short to see over the steering wheel is not a complexity.

>>133220055
Stop larping. We both youre one of those people who will race mix

>>133210520
>Cool asian
Those are called FOBs (fresh off the boat) because they're usually a bunch of try hard effeminate looking faggots who get their asses kicked and mocked routinely.
Cool Asian my ass bud lel

>>133207419

u do the right thing anon. u are just a gook for australians.. why stay there?

>>133220264
I think it's obvious to say I know more about Western born Asians than you do. Larper

>>133208403

Only because of immigration

>>133208568

Nice try but they'd all just be put on welfare while they worked in their off the books no tax paying businesses

>>133220410
Thank you. It's not even chinese, or asians. Australian born ethnics mostly stick to people of their own race.
Australian born Chinese are less in numbers than Chinese from china in Australia. Why align with such a weak ethnic group?
White people on the other hand has no sense of real nationalism. Not to mention white guilt. They would gladly sell out for money, as we are seeing today.

>>133208623
>In some respect i'd rather be a mainlander. mainlanders are competitive and go getters. Western born chinese are cucked by western upbringing and deprived of inner strength

Man I really hope your grandparents are high ranking members of the party otherwise enjoy being someone's bitch.

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>>133220010
When are we going to meet up?

t. Anglo living in Burwong

>>133210762

So get on a plane to Guangzhao

>>133210520
This and so many other things are examples of why immigration is just a bad idea all round. Nobody wants it.

>>133220594
Where do you get/form your stereotypes? From your parents? From reddit/4chan?

Western stereotypes of the chinese living in the west are grossly dated. Perhaps, posting throuh an echo chamber will somehow placste your feelings of discontent.

I made several posts on here saying all you people do is whinge while rollig over and shouting for "someone to do something" while all you do is bitch and moan. You people do nothing and you would gladly sell your property to the chinese and greencard a thai girl. Dont pretend you care about Australia.

I grew up in Sydney i know you people are big whingers. Feel free to google to confirm.

>>133212369
>My experiences in china is far more positive than Australia

No shit, because you were on fucking vacation during a holiday season .

>>133220795
Do you have discord. I had another who wanted to have lunch with me but he doesnt have discord.

>>133207419
Teach China to put peas in fried rice like God intended. Then martyr yourself.

>>133221088
No dumbass because theres no nosey bogans, arabs, and pc culture.

>>133220713
How are whites selling out for money? We are suffering massive financial hardship due to mass immigration due the the suppression of wages and increase in housing prices that it causes.
Most white people don't want mass immigration from non--western countries and never did want it. We just have no voice.

And while you're talking about selling out for money, in Sydney it's possible to fuck a chinese woman for less than $100

>>133221212
No, I don't have discord either

>>133221254
The chinese needs to teach me how to be an asshole. I have nothing to teach them

>>133221346
Im not having this discussion. If you've been here long enough then you've already read the posts. If you think this country isnt selling then continue thinking this way. It makes you feel better.

Also, you're paying chinese women? Wow.

>>133221352
Kik?

>>133220956
Did you not see the pic in op? And no im not staying there. There are 418k chinese people with influence and potential living in shdney. If im the best you can do then you really are powerless. Larper.

>>133221086

If all we do is bitch and moan how does the developed country you live in even exist. Chinese rort welfare and don't declare all the time. Just because you might not be as bad as the Arabs doesn't mean you're good.
If we sell a house we can't decide who can and can't buy it you idiot.
I guarantee that it's you who haasn't met many typical Australians not me not understanding Chinese people who live here. In the industry I work in I deal with them all the time.
Ethnic groups in Australia are incredibly divided and the vast majority of middle class Australians (actual Australians) live a long way from you.
The fact you have so little respect for us inwhile living in the country we created and living off opportunities we created and work and paid for show what is wrong with mass immigration. You aren't Australian, you never will be, and you don't belong here.
You have your own country, leave ours alone.

try not to drink the sewer water

>>133220793
Before you make a post giving advice, ask yourself "do i have any credibility?"

>>133221494

You're not having the discussion, ie you know you're talking out your arse.

I'm not paying chinese women but plenty of others are, there are thousands of Chinese prostitutes in Sydney and they fuck for next to nothing which really demonstrates the moral character of your people.

>>133221670
It's not your country, fuck off.

find yourself a wife to import no matter how shitty person she is, and vote greens, fuck the alt right

>>133221737
>You have your own country, leave ours alone.
Chinese from china out numbers Australian born chinese 5:3 and this is 2011 census statistics.
I know it's easier for you to deal with ABCs because they got cucked by western upbringing thereby making them easier targets.
And I understand that our yes our govt is sucking chinese dick but if you want to save your country then you should somehing effective about it instead of rolling over. "Shell be right" no she wont. The real enemy is from china but your parents or relatives probably sold out. You will do nothing stop larping.

>>133207703

Sounds like a fortune cookie

>>133221884
>there are thousands
Most Australians are sell outs. Maybe youre an exception, so what? Exceptions are irrelevant.
If you think i am wrong feel free. The reality is out there for you to see..

>>133207419
I ordered a leather wallet that came from Guangzhou. It was garbage.

>>133222022
So you're conceding then that your immigrating here is bad for us

>>133222168
How are Australians sell out?

>>133221929
1) Chinese from china outnumbers 5:3 according to 2011 statistics. They are the bigger peoblem but they hold far more power so you do nothing.
2) you wouldnt dare say that irl. Stop larping. Im doing you a favour by going away for 6 months. Invalidate my passport in 6 months if you can.

top kek you suck at life OP

desu i wish every single chink would do the same as you're doing

>>133207419
I love this guy

>>133207419
>this guy again.
Are you fucking serious?

There will be gnashing of teeth

>>133207419
god you are a dedicate piece of comedy.

>>133222405
Why do you even want to live here if you have such negative views of us as a country and a people?

>>133222412
Me too

maybe you can set up a smuggling operation from china to australia?


you never know where the cup-o-noodle soup will lead you.

>>133222350
I dont know how you came to that conclusion but i am of the personal opinion that you people are soft white guilt no bsckbone soft cock bluepilled safe bubbled pc faggots. Esp the Australian govt. e.g. Bob hawke allowed a bunch of chinese into Australia due to the tianamen square incident. What kind of govt cucks itself like that?

Anothher thing "immigration is bad" the way you conclude my post highlights how Australians will do nothing but whinge and roll over. You blame this and that but never yourself. Blame your govt for allowing immigration, blame the people you know who sold out, and blame yourself for being a larper without making shit happen.

Is immigration bad? No, but to this current extent? Yes. And whos fault is it? The people who chose the immigrate or the people selling out and allowing and encouraging (work visa). Lets look at 457, you think a gook in some good restaurant developed and approved visa 457?

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>>133220264
Nah hes talking about the 2nd gen cunts into gym and drugs. Would have been more accurate to say criminal asian i think.

>>133222623
Maybe you should ask the lebos that question instead of me.

>>133222826
lebs take pride in stralya

chinks tho... naw fuck no

>>133222821
>criminal asian
Drug dealing is socially acceptable. A stretch to label it criminal.

>>133222872
>lebs take pride in Australia
Take off your nazi flag, larper

>>133222826
are u the same anon i talked to earlier this week? what part of gz u going to

>>133222412
Too bad theyre not. Maybe you should tackle them instead? Or perhaps you already sold out to them?

>>133222985
Yuexiu

>>133223043
like zhujiang area? or more busted area where the nigger ghetto is

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>>133207419
I like you, Chang. Your engrish shitposting amuses me. Try not to get your organs harvested when visting Shenshit or Gongcock or whatever other dog-eating-shithole you plan on going to.

Tell your grands I said Nehao, and some gwailo on weaboo pooping board is proud of their little Xi.

Good luck, and God speed, unless you're one of those canto dogs.

>>133223043
this is what yuexiu is like now

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ef_1408081667&comments=1

enjoy. never go to that shithole

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>>133221737
>Chinese people who live here. In the industry I work in I deal with them all the time.
>im not a sell out
There has never been a time on pol when im wrong everytime i get into the discussion of whether Australians are sellouts. Never.

>>133222826
I would if they were literate enough to be in here.

The fact is you're a step up from them but this still isn't your country and you have about as much desire to assimilate as they do.

>>133222872
You're an idiot

>>133223347
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuexiu_District
I did the job for you

>>133207419
Liar, your parents sent you back because you're a parasitic NEET

>>133207419
Good for you. Now stop making these threads all the time.

>>133223350
Because there are Chinese people who work in the same industry as me I'm a sell out?

What sort of an absurd argument is that?

>>133223452
The discussion is finished. you've proven yourself to be a sell out if not a delusional larper.

Anyway if you want me gone. Do something about it. Telling me i dont belong here on 4chan is no better than a child throwing a tantrum

>>133223523
ive lived here for 8 years. i know where the niggers are so i can stay away from them. also there are different aspects that make a person pussy between chinese foreigner and chinese national. i was the guy you talked to from vancouver this past week

>>133223615
You dont see it? Okay. Like i said ivuhad this discussion too many times. Enough to confirm something to me. I dont think you're larping but you're in denial, but my opinion is irrelevant as is yours

>>133223720
I dont remember but what's your point? If youre going to say im making a mistake then I've already heard it before

>>133223651
You're incapable of making a meaningful aargument, so much for gooks being smart.

One day you're going to swallow the words of that challenge. You'll realise then that your arrogant disregard for the natural laws of racial nationhood was a serious mistake.

>>133223925
Dont forget to greet your chinese coworkers tomorrow. Mr. Proud Australian

>>133223896
no. youre right about some stuff about mainlanders being better in some aspects vs westernized chinese. people are way less degenerate in china

>>133223770
If it's confirmed to you and that's all that concerns you why are you on a message board. If it's evenan argument at all it's a retarded one.

Between you aand the other guy it amazes me how bad eaast asians are at making logical and coherent arguments. I think all you intelligence is dedicates to numeracy and the visuospatial which leaves very little room left for logic and language. I guess that's whhy there are so few successful Chinese lawyers.

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>>133223925
>yfw your dog goes missing in the morning

>>133224010
you speak and write chinese? if not you will be an outsider here anyways

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>>133224035
Good. As a western born chinese you've seen both sides.

Pic related

>>133224285
Does pinyin count?

>>133223925
>>133224010
i've often wondered about this.

When there are enough chinese here how do you think that will go?

Because i'm starting to believe we white people are racially superior to you and will out-compete you in everything the moment we have some pressure put on us and our relaxed attitude disappears.

We're smarter than you, capable of invention. All that will happen is we will be the ruling upperclass while your people, predisposed to centuries of obeying will be our workers.

>>133224605
You realise I'm white right? Why are you saying 'you' to me when you're talking about Asians

>>133224504
Most are Godless heathens.

Taiping rebellion should've never failed. Fuck the British, Fuck the 8 Generals, and especially fuck Mao and Chink Kike Shek.

The mainlanders are sometimes too obsessed with money like the jews. The anglophone chinks at least escaped here like most americans did, under religous persecuions, and therefore are more or less Godfearing

>>133224177
I don't have one haha

>>133224285
Cantonese, mandarin is bad and dont know mnay Chinese characters.
Ill learn chinese once im there. My main purpose there isnt to work, study, or make friends, or even have fun.
Once i go back to Australia my chinese should be good enough. A chinese face that cannot speak (cantonese is garbage) and write chinese will only get cucked in the western world in 2017

>>133207419
dont do it m8, china is cancerous af

>>133224737
He responded to both of you, you petrol-sniffing speedbump.

Try and pay attention

>>133224504
im white but i had lots of western born chinese friends growing up.
that statement seems correct. there's more things that are different here. interdependence and brotherhood is big here, creates men more. also other things like chinese guys dont put up with sluts like the american born asians turned into also. it's really pathetic how girls have turned out in western countries. i can go on if you want

>>133224532
no

>>133224826
will be interesting to see how people treat you then. it could be that youre chinese so you gain respect for that and you're a foreigner so some people will like that. other's will just see you as 100% foreigner and not even think of you as chinese if you dont know the langauge

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>>133207419
Good riddance chink!!!

>>133224605
You make a valid question but i will that i will answer this for myself when i return to Australia.
I could answer your question but i feel i do not need to validate myself to you and you would also not agree with my answer

>>133224780
They keep calling us sell outs though apparently

The figures for involvement in prostitution cast a lot of doubt on the validity of such an allegation when it comes from them

There was a mainland Chinese girl at my university whose own mother knew she worked as a prostitute while she was studying here. Another Chinese girl in our course told us that.

>>133224826
also dont eat fuckin dog. that's stupid shit that farmers do during winter to "warm" their body up

>>133224878
Settle down haha, what is your issue with Australians?

>>133224949
>no
Silly gwailo like you wouldnt know.

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>>133207419
holy shit you're finally going
I hope you have a good time and reconnect with your heritage and maybe choose to stay (or go to Taiwan bc fuck gobbunism)

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>>133207419
You going to sign up for If you are the one (Fei Cheng Wu Rao 非诚勿扰)?

Guaranteed Chinese waifu.

>>133224532
>>133225096
ive been here for 8years now. knowing pinyin wont let you have connections through wechat and shit. you will just look like a retard not knowing the characters, if anything chinese will think youre more of a failure if youre chinese for not actually learning your home language

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>>133225082
Nothing really, just shitpposting m80.

>>133225247
Haha

>>133224949
I remember you abit better now. This was on /int/. I asked you before about how western born chinese compare to native chinese in order to get this answer out from you.

Chinese from china who comes to the west or even the ones who stays in china are hardier than western born chinese. People in the west, whether they admit it or not, are at the very least subconsciously aware of this.
>brotherhood is big here
I had a taste of this when i befriended mainlanders in highschool. Western born chinese are really fucking pathetic.

>>133224966
well fair enough. When do you leave for china?

Most of us here like you and insanely dedicated posting mate. make it back safe and tell us what you learned when you're back.

>>133208623
> mainlanders are competitive and go getters
As a fellow chink migrant, I will tell you that mentality is dangerous, the generous and welcoming whites will smell your attitude from a mile away, and you'll be left to associate with fellow recent immigrants who spend their days exploiting fellow Chinese.
There is a reason the Chinese elites send their children overseas, its because they don't want their children to get that mentality.

>And the thing is, i know i will go to china one day.
Also, there is a way to go back to China for free. I studied UNSW's comm international degree, which had a 1 year mandatory exchange. I went to Tsinghua for exchange, received $9000 in scholarships (New colombo plan), and got $14000 in loans. You only need a middle distinction average in uni to get that sweet cash.
Also, its way more fulfilling to travel to China this way, you get respected by your relatives,you seriously learn about China, and you even earn tons of money by living cheaply (easy to do by buying everything online), and receiving that centrelink money (that you get to keep)

>>133225218
I'm just as much white devil as you are, broseph.

I was a history major, so I know a lot about both east & west. I probably know more than chen about his heritage and culture, considering the great leap forward destroyed much of that. Luckily though the gommies kept Tai Chi around, which has been really great in alleviating some of my health issues.

I've always wanted to go to China, but my grasp on the language is shit tier. I was thinking maybe if I stay in the touristy "Special Econmic Zones". I should be okay.

I havef a family friend who flies to Beijing a few times a year working with the chink government and MSCI to bring chink market ETFs and other such derivative garbage to american markets.

He says, other than the pollution and traffic its a nice place to visit.

I was thinking about travelling along the coast, and doing food tourism, but the gutter oil scared me off. Now I'm more interested in just seeing their historical monuments and natural wonders.

>Chinese
>Australian

Pick one faggot, judging by ur picture the only non-larping answer is #2.

>>133225401
ive never been to int but this topic came up on pol the other day.

>I had a taste of this when i befriended mainlanders in highschool. Western born chinese are really fucking pathetic.

even as a white person aslong as I know the culture and tradition that youre supposed to put into the brotherhood you can even be included. i really like china, i couldnt think of moving back to a western country, i go home every year to visit family and i hate seeing how the culture has changed every time. i assumed eventually the west would get better and i would leave china but it's the opposite. china has gotten better and the west has gotten worse.

other things like bars/clubs dont even have bouncers here because there's no violent culture here. people can walk around the streets late at night not being afraid of getting mugged by a drug addict or a nigger. i feel 10x safer living here compared to vancouver. can drink in public and drinking is legal at every age but no one abuses this because it's not in the culture to be a degenerate, maybe occasionally some kids will try it out but nothing too serious etc

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>>133225218
>>133225096
This. Imagine a white guy in Australia speakijg really really really broken english in a chinese accent. How do you think the average person would think?

Now how do you think a chinese native would feel if you go to china and spoke really really really broken chinese in a "gweilo" accent?

There are videos on YouTube i have seen about western born chinese working in hk or china and they said they were excited to back back amongst their people only to find out they cant connect and that their coworkers bring out how they sound like a white guy/girl speaking cantonese.

>>133225648
ive only stayed in the south so i dont really know much about bj/shanghai etc but i just heard the pollution in bj is fuckin terrible, AQI like 500 where guangzhou isnt so bad anymore

Stop treating this place like your fuckin blog, god yellow devil

Chinese men are weak betas, they wouldn't hold up against red blooded, boozed up bogan aussies

>>133224826
> A chinese face that cannot speak (cantonese is garbage) and write chinese will only get cucked in the western world in 2017

Absolutely false, I have native level fluency in Mandarin (including writing), and my english isn't accented at all. And in all my internship interviews, never fucking once was my Chinese skills brought up, its fucking useless for most jobs, unless you are working retail or a call center job, the latter in particular is desperate for bilinguals.

Many of my selective school ABCs barely speak Chinese, and do fairly well for themselves like you would expect out of a successful white Australian chad.

>>133224605
I don't think either europeans or the Chinese have much propensity to form any sort of caste system except when living alongside peoples who are significantly inferior to them, as we both come from fairly universalist traditions. Qualitatively there are significant differences in European and Nort east asian intelligence but not quantitatively so I doubt if the two populations lived side by side they would remain separate for many generations.

This means there are only three possible outcomes, the destruction of our people through miscegenation, a massive shift in population policy very soon, or civil war.

I find 1 and 3 both fairly repulsive but would still choose 3 over 1 personally

>>133225909
Lmao when you rekt every pol larper so they can no loger reply

>>133225833
this is true but i have seen lots of groups who take the "foreigner" chinese under their wing if they really do love china and want to live on the mainland. lots of chinese people travel or have studied abroad so they know there are western chinese that are good people and do love china but werent taught chinese by their parents etc. have seen this a couple of times myself, it's mainly richer chinese people who have property abroad but prefer to live in china.

>>133225892
How is Shenzen?

>>133225783
This is also why i suspect western portrayal of china may be incorrect. All these larpers telling me to not go, fuck them.

Also, the nigger problem, I dont think itll be an issue, unless you were just shitposting from the beginning.

>>133224532
You'll be treated as a joke, there is little tolerance for foreign chinks who aren't fluent in Chinese unless you have a very successful career.

>>133226158
Asking as a white person.

>>133225928
Because you were likely brought up with inner strength. The fact you grew ip learning chinese proves this
Same reason why lebos don't integrate well but no one dare fucks with them.

>>133226117
ive only passed through it. it's just a place where people go to make money, dont think many people actually settle down and live there.

>>133226150
the nigger ghetto is in yuexiu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africans_in_Guangzhou

Since China's economic boom in the 1990s, thousands mostly from West Africa went to China.[4] Most chose to reside in Guangzhou because of its wholesale trading markets supplied by nearby factories.

Professor Ma Qiang noted that many African immigrants congregated around one area of town primarily because large numbers of Muslims, which are said to make up around half of Guangzhou's African population, settled around areas where halal food is served.[11] Thus areas Baohan Straight Street, an alley street in the Yuexiu District, which were originally inhabited by Chinese Muslims from places such as Ningxia and Xinjiang, is the central point of the African community.

Clashes with police[edit]
Conflict between the African community and police in Guangzhou resulted in incidents. In July 2009, a Nigerian man died after jumping several floors from a building in an attempt to flee Chinese immigration authorities.[12] On July 15, 2009, hundreds of Africans, mostly Nigerian, demonstrated at the local Public Security Bureau station, shutting down eight lanes of traffic on a major thoroughfare for several hours.[12][13] In June 2012, an African held in police custody after a taxi fare dispute died after "suddenly losing consciousness", according to police.[14] Hundreds of Africans gathered at the police station in question and clashed with the police.[14]

was a hilarious day too. lots of niggers rioting in the street

>>133226150
ive just known lots of people similar to you that come here and get a job from their parents or some family hook up and their new boss asks them to do shit but they dont even know things like how to write chinese characters so they legit useless fucks. dont be this person

>>133224605
Singapore has been a very successful Chinese led multicultural state for decades. Its also richer than its former colonial overlord Britain. I do not think your attitude is well founded in either present day facts or history, given that Chinese dynasties have for some periods been richer than Europe on a per-capita basis. It is no certainty that whites will 'beat' east asians, let alone become some eternal overlord.

>>133225943
East Asians have proven to be able to form successful societies under the right institutions, There is no reason why they cannot co-exist with white Australians.

You have to realise that 70% of Australia's exports go to the East Asian 4 (China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan). Australia's economy is already an East Asian one. Is it that hard to accept some heavily selected immigrants who do not make a fuss politically?

>>133225585
My mums friend and relatives who came to Australia with nothing are now very wealthy because of that mentality. But since you are here i want to know that mentality is dangerous. You seem to have a better picture of this mentality. Whats so bad about learning that you must struggle and compete and have the boldness to fuck people over to get ahead?
>There is a reason the Chinese elites send their children overseas, its because they don't want their children to get that mentality.
I get the impression the students of wealth chinese families who comes here to study dont have much of that mentality.

>>133226764
I wont. Im not making friends or working, studying there.

>>133226280
Oops.
Still, using Pinyin is unacceptable, because its extremely hard to read (imagine reading everything in all caps plus some cryptic font).

On the other hand, using simple but proper Chinese will earn you significant respect, you don't need to learn how to write the characters, since typing only requires Pinyin. I have infact forgotten how to write Chinese at all, but being fluent in typing got me through a year of exchange studies at the top Chinese university.

But ultimately, for significant economic benefits, you have to be fluent in it. At that point, even Australian employers will value you because it shows intelligence and the grit to learn, whereas for a Ching Chong like me, being bilingual is to be expected, even though in reality very few achieve fluency in both languages..

>>133227043
the reason rich chinese have their kids go abroad for uni is for face. not because they dont want them to learn chinese culture. what a fuckin cuck that guy

>>133226783
Where did I say east asians can't form successful societies?

They're the only non-white people who can

>>133207419
LMFAO YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO THE INTERNET REHAB CAMP
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>133227305
Fuck you man i want to shitpost on reddit.

>>133227359
Don't ever let them see you using a computer or a smartphone unless it's for business work.
EVER.
Trust me.

>>133226783
'Some heavily selected immigrants'!

We take in a quarter of a million a year. We take in over ten percent of our entire population every decade.

In less than 50 years we have gone from being an over 95% white christian population to being around 30% non-white. In the lifetime of every person on this message board, we (assuming you're white Australian) will be a minority in the nation our ancestors built and fought for and died in wars to defend.

You have no concept of the scope of what is going on because the media and academia keep you in the dark.

We are committing collective suicide.

>>133227454
wtf kind of shitty advice is that. mobile games are super popular right now, lots of girls and guys play them

>>133227454
im going to keep telling them "im Australian. I deserve better reeeeeeeeeeee" and then cry from my entitled and whiny upbringing

>>133227649
>>133227663
Enjoy the camp.
Unless you lose at least a couple of fingers in some factory or get chewed up by an escalator you can't really be called chinese.

>>133227043
Your 'mums friend' and 'relatives', are successful not because of that mentality, but despite of it.

Most of the Asian immigrants (except the viets) to Australia, are heavily genetically selected. I realised two years ago that all four of my grandparents got into university in China, which is both extremely rare those days, yet also to be expected, because only smart and successful grandparents could have smart children (my mum and dad), who have the financial capability to immigrate.

So no, they did not come with nothing, they merely utilized their intelligence, which is likely far higher than average. Fucking over people or not makes little difference.

>I get the impression the students of wealth chinese families who comes here to study dont have much of that mentality.

I tutor those students at Uni, and also have some rich Chinese relatives who are considering sending their children overseas.

There are two types of students, the type that come here for a piece of paper and return, they are the types who inherit their parent's mentality. The type that comes here with the intention to stay, they are the ones who want to live a stable and honest life. The latter is the majority (80%), as despite Australian taking in a huge amount of Chinese millionaires (10k+ per year), that's still just 10% of the overall Chinese intake.

Even for wealthy Chinese families, they harbour deep anxieties about financial security, because they know if they fucked over others to get that wealth, others can do the same to them. They really don't want their children to live the same stressful lives.

>>133227663
If you can't stand us why are you here? Have a bit of respect for people who shared what they haad built with you

>>133226366
Well ill be looking forward to see how much china has changed. All i know is the average person is now 3x wealthier since the last time i went

>>133227893
>cant even take a joke
You don't understand self deprecating humour? In the real world i am Australian as much as i am ashamed of it. So i use the joke on myself. And another thing once i go to china ill be more Australian than i am chinese.

>>133227893
Have a bit of respect for people who shared what they haad built with you
That whiny sense of entitlement

>>133227899
it's way more streamlined now. pay everything through your phone via wechat. lots of delivery services for food so lots of people order food in. good deals around the city through group on type of sites to do whatever you want. going to bed now though,if i dont see you again good luck in your search here. there is a problem with the west but most people dont realize this, lots to learn here in china. not all is good here of course but it's good to get perspective from both cultures and take the best from both

>>133227843
you have no idea what youre talking about. guangzhou isnt some peasant farm city you stupid nigger.

>>133227893
you didnt build that, you didnt want to share that

the government approved for his ancestors migration somewhere in the past, that's all that happened, but I agree he shouldnt be on /pol/ for anything other than knowing his enemy

>>133228128
How is that entitled you fuckwit?

To expect that people we shared our country with wouldn't regard us with contempt.

>>133227287
They form successful but different societies, a life in Japan is very very different from a typical developed western economy.
With little mingling outside the economic sphere, they don't really have the tendency to race mix. As long as the government keeps the immigrant gender ratio balanced, there is little chance for mass miscegenation.
Successful societies don't magically implode into civil war.
And lastly, a radical shift in immigration policy is highly unlikely, you really think Australia can keep its 70% of exports to East Asia while closing the immigration door? Plus, Australia is still on a general level taking away China and India's best, which keeps the professional sector competitive with other countries. Its a real benefit unlike cheap farm labour.

>>133228227
These Gook-tier arguments they do my head in

You guys really have no sense of accountabillity or logic do you

>>133228395
>hates nonwhites
>"non whites should be grateful for things WE built and shared"

nice /pol/ logic you got there

>>133228333
It's a benefit to go from being an homogenous society to one that is fractured along ethnic lines with no sense of community?

You point to the time in our history after federation when we couldn't produce entrepeneurs, doctors, lawyers, engineers?

We were doing fine on our own and were a cohesive and happy society.

We never needed immigration from non-western countries.

>>133228620
I don't hate non-whites I just think we're all better off in our own societies.

How is it illogical to not want mass immigration but since it is happening expecting the people who take advantage of it to not regard us with disdain?

>>133227875
>Most of the Asian immigrants (except the viets) to Australia, are heavily genetically selected.
If thats true then that means thats whst im better at but it was never nurtured in Australia.

Im not sure what you mean by "despite of it" this is one of my mums friend. He was on the news
http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/former-butcher-ze-ren-le-behind-bars-for-sydney-fathers-alleged-murder-20160129-gmh1qx.html
He owns 7 properties under his wife's name and divorced to protect his assets. Dont know if it will work though.

To every single Chink in this country, you know why you're here. You're the crabs that managed to escape the bucket, your entire mongoloid race is shit and they ruined your home country so you had to come to a nice, white and clean place. Now you're shitting this place up too with your horrid gook ways, soon it will be another province of china and you get to go back to living in a toxic shithole full of soulless insect people.

Congratulations.

>>133228869
You do realise with no immogration Australia will no longer be competitive and it will be another tasmania? Australia will be stuck in the same period and will fall behind to the rest of the world.

Migration is keeping your uni fees low. You're a joke and i knew you were from the beginning if you think closing Australia from the rest of the world will solve anything. This is why you're not running the country

>>133227610
80% of that intake comes from India and China.
I should remind you that India and China have about 40 million new births per year, 200000 out of 40 million is about than 0.004%. That is extremely selective by any definition.

I am not white, and I share you deep concern for western civilization. And my experience as a both a Chinese and Australian can tell you that to immigrate, you have to be the top 5% of Chinese households in terms of wealth and education. It is incomparable to the family-first immigration seen in the US and UK, or the free-for-all refuge swarm of the EU.

Yes, the demographic shift will be dramatic, but you have to realise that white Australians are growing healthily in absolute numbers, which can absolutely be attributed to the surge of wealth and talent coming from Asia. The Japanese closed themselves up to the outside world, only to commit demographic suicide due to economic depression.
Of all the options to preserve white Australia's prosperity and future, maintaining selective immigration from Asia is the best option.

Lastly, don't be anxious that Asians are stealing the jobs. Indians and the Chinese aren't exactly keen on blue color labour, and they mostly aspire for the professional sector (IT, accounting, etc), and for these sectors, the competition is already global in the first place. With abundant local IT workers, Australian firms can actually afford to keep IT services on shore rather than send them to Pajeets in India.

>>133209470
You're full of shit. I spent time in China, it's the westernized Han Chinese that don't eat dog. Only one district does this a lot and surprise surprise it's the Muslim district everyone else in China hates. They can't visit the cities because no one will rent rooms to them or even get close to them. There are pictures of them as families trying to visit Beijing where they are left sleeping outside police stations.

Thing is, that culture is one of the most authentic as it hasn't changed much since they became Muslim. The Tibetans are also a more less original culture and they do some very weird shit like kill virgin girls and drink blood. They are pretty widely hated by the North and East Chinese.

The place where you find t-shirts, jeans, suits, BMWs, Audi cars, Apple and Android phones, Gibson guitar shops, those Chinese hate eating dog as much as we do. They still eat scorpions and bugs sometimes, and that nasty rotten tofu. I tried this stuff, it's every bit as gross as it smells. It's just proof that there has to be a biological difference between us. Some of the stuff you all eat just is not food for me.

>>133229365
That's not true, look at the number of immigrants on welfare and services. (At far higher rates than the white population -this is a statisctial fact so don't try to say it isn't true)

Uni fees were far cheaper when we were a homogenous population and almost everyone was conscientious in paying taxes.

Immigration supresses wages and increases housing prices.

Our economy was buoyed by the resource boom not non-western immgration.

>>133229490
Hey dumbcunt. The general western consensus thinks all chinese eat dogs. I can use their beliefs to my advantage and eat dogs in china to troll the fuck out of the western world. I havent searched for "people eat dog in china" videos yet to see if anyone has done it. Not to mention i speak english with an Australian accent while carrying a chinese face. I believe it will create some confusion and piss a lot of people off.

>>133228655
>We never needed immigration from non-western countries.
Back in the GFC, China's demand for minerals kept Australia's economy afloat. At that point, you can argue that whites can reap the economic benefits without immigration.

For the past few years, China's demand for housing (construction), tourism and education kept Australia's economy afloat. But its impossible to attract these customers without having a sizable mandarin speaking population.

A country can live a content existence by being closed, but rarely prosperous. Like most Eastern Europe countries.

Australia is prosperous, precisely because it was never closed, it was always absorbing ambitious migrants (wonder where a lot of the entrepreneurs and engineers came from?) from Britain and other parts of Europe.

Now you ask why can't Australia keep its immigration exclusively from Europe, first because Australia barely trades with Europe, and is economically dependent on East Asia, and secondly there just isn't enough talent in Europe wanting to come to Australia anymore.

Yes, a sense of community will be fractured due to racial differences. But it is a necessary sacrifice.Japan is a homogenous society, yet life there is suffocating (imagine 60 hours every week for every worker) due to economic pressures from being a closed society.

>>133229749
You're just a nobody on 4chan too, and apparently with no idea what you're talking about. Go to Beijing and try to order dog and see how fast most places throw you out. It's a nice place. Makes me wonder why the fuck you choose to live in our countries.

Anyway, just google it. It's so crazy that you think I'm lying.

>>133228869
nothing wrong with anti immigrantion, just dont be a faggot and pretend you hold any power/enacted some kind of liberal law out of good will to "build and share" things. If you built anything valuable in your life, you would be riding the property bubble train like boomer middle class centrists do, but you are on /pol/ so we know the answer

>>133229064
Successful parents have failed children all the time, due to inappropriate education or bad genetic inheritance luck. As for the wealthy friend thing, one sample doesn't prove anything, and you have to just take my word because I'm actually fluent in Chinese and frequents Chinese forums.

>>133230325
Dog eating is mostly a southern china thing. Im sure i can ask my uncle to drive me to a place with dogs on the menu. I believe it wont be in Guangzhou though.

Anyway what point are you trying to make?

>>133229065
As a chink, i understand your rage, but the Chinese are not destined to failed societies.
It is a fact that Singapore and Hong Kong are successful.
If you can't purge the Chinese already here, the constructive solution will be to integrate them, not reject them. This is a different case to muslims or blacks, which have proven to be unintegratable anywhere and doomed to failure.

>>133230110
Lol did you delete your last post?

Yeah, a video like that would be hard to make, you'd have to go to a little Muslim town on the fringes of one of the cities, you wouldn't want to travel to the actual Muslim area while speaking English or looking like a typical Han Chinese. I mean, do that if you feel like getting stabbed. China is far from united, the rift between areas is so bad, that whole district wants to break off and join Pakistan but the centra gov won't let them. It's not worth it for a troll video.

Or do, whatever, I don't care what happens to you.

>>133230418
I do believe that mentality is dangerous but i just need some of that asshole go getter mentality.

What do you personally recommend i do instead?

>>133230365
I have an ancestor who died in war for this country and I inherited a lot of money from my father. There is such a thing as the 'commonwealth' too that many people contributed to including the ancestors of many Australians who don't have a lot personally, unlike me. What they do have though are ancestors who worked and paid taxes here for generations and many of whom served in the military in wars.

Are you seriously claiming the collective wealth of this country should be just as much yours as theirs?

You're an entitled scab

>>133207419
I remember you

>>133230525
Pay attention
You said
>All the stereotypes you have of the chinese in the west are chinese who got cucked by western upbringing.

But the most original Chinese cultures that still exist are the only groups that do it. Taiwan, Guangzhou mainly.

So you are full of shit, westernized Chinese in China act like westerners and it's all the big cities.

Beijing is so western I didn't have to learn any Chinese at all. Most people already spoke it, public services have English signs, busses and subways have English messages. Everybody there is civilized and dressed in American Eagle, Ambicrombi, Gucci, LV, and drives western cars. Those people don't eat dog any more than you could go to Denver and ask for soul food.

You'd have to find some weird shop on the fringes of town in a Muslim neighborhood, and you won't be popular there.

>>133229660
>look at the number of immigrants on welfare and services
You do realise we take in 50k refugees every year? I read immigration research, Indians and Chinese are only very very slightly above the Australian unemployment average. (like 0.1% above).

Its the afghans, the somalis, the lebs that stay 80% unemployed, which drive up the average unemployment and welfare rates.

I am not advocating for more immigration from Africa or the middle east, precisely because of this reason.

>Uni fees were far cheaper when we were a homogenous population...
This one is complete and utter bullshit.
The number 1 reason for uni fees increases is more Australians going to university, as uni became fashionable and eventually required for young people, the numbers surged and the government couldn't afford it anymore.

The current swarm of international students are keeping uni fees down compared to US levels. Because every chink you despise at university is paying 50k a year for school fees alone, that's what's paying for all the fancy new buildings, and well paid tutors. They subsidise our fees to an incredible extent and you should be grateful for it.

>Immigration supresses wages
Japan doesn't have immigration, its wage level hasn't grown for 20 fucking years. You are not just competing with the local workforce, but also with companies in other countries. Its much better to take in TALENT, supress wages this way, than to let domestic companies fail and get fucked massively.

>increases housing prices
Why doesn't blue collar Australians have the rage and despair of the US whites you wonder? Because most of them own property, and benefit hugely from the construction boom. Increased housing prices is only a major problem for us millennials. Not for society as a whole.

>>133231019
>ancestors who worked and paid taxes here for generations and many of whom served in the military in wars

yeah Damo and Darren sure did pay loads of taxes and helped this country, not too sure about collective wealth part, last I checked this country respects private ownership of things.

>entitled
4d irony

>>133230832
I haven't read your original stories, so I don't know your condition.

My suggestion is to be confident in your intelligence, and study something that's both nerdy and employable, like coding. You do not have to be social or presentable to be successful in that area. You have to believe that since your parents are smart, you must also be, and therefore be able to overcome academic challenges through perseverance.

>>133231544
Again, the complete contempt for ethnic Australians. If we're all just dumb bogans how is it that we created a country that you or your parents were so desperate to move to?

Working class Australians work hrd and pay taxes. If you grew up in Western Sydney you don't even fucking know us as a people. Look at the quality of life here for the average person compared to China? Who is the scum, you tell me.

How am I entitled? Because I want to preserve my country for my people? Do the Japanese want this? Do the Chinese? Does basically ever people on earth not want this? Does that make them all entitled?

>>133209229
Intriguing. Its been too long since I read a good chunk of longform greentext.

>mouse house

tee hee hee

>>133231344
Im going to repeat myself in point form
- Guangzhou has a dog eatery somewhere if not i can ask my relative
- the western world thinks china eats dogs as a whole
- i go there and eat dog to provoke viewers.
- im going to guangzhou, not beijing.
- im going to guangzhou
- im going to guangzhou

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are you referring to my amazing comic that I drew and is amazing and good?

>>133231889
I'm not the guy you were talking to, but I hope I can alleviate some of your anxiety.

First of all, some way or another your parents have benefitted massively from the property boom, which is a direct consequence of migration.

Second of all, you do indeed get benefits from your parent's work in building Australia. You have a social web that has already advantaged in many ways you haven't realised.
I didn't even know that I had to volunteer and participate in all those social events to get an internship, because there was no one I could talk to tell me these things.

I'm a dean's lister at UNSW and still struggle to find a good internship. As a Asian you really have to be much better than a White to achieve the same end result.
I do not resent this, because it is still much easier than if I stayed in China, and because your privileges are the result of your parents hard work. But the point is that you should understand that Asian immigrants are not threatening you in any way.

>>133231889
I said theres nothing wrong with being against immigration, but pretending you built or shared anything is pretty entitled

Again, nothing you built or shared, if you are mad about people leeching off your taxes, there are more worthwhile targets than immigrants who pay taxes or pumps up the economy however harmful that is, the goverment is fine with it and that's how things run at the moment, vote whatever you like but dont suddenly go saint and liberal on pol

>>133232432
This is the mentality im looking to develop in china. To struggle and keep going even when you're at a disadvantage.
Australians are whiny and entitlement and I definitely inherit his from my western upbringing and i need to undo this.

>>133232437
It's not entitled at all and immigration doesn't benefit us in net economic terms anymore.

Even if I did I still wouldn't want it because, economy aside, it has done massive damage to us a society. The levels of social trust and personal openess in this country that were once so high have been heavily eroded. Our sense of identity and unity as a people is being destroyed. It is unnatural and undesirable for human beings to live in multicultural societies.

You all have your own countries, we have our own too. Let's each live in our own and engage happily with each other through trade, travel and cultural exchange and the world will ultimately be a far more stable, happy and prosperous place.

>>133232889
If immigration gets closed off sydney, the most globalised Australian city will be no better than regional towns. You can move to a regional town right now if you don't like what your city has become.

>>133232785
I was the person giving you advice, and you are taking completely the wrong lessons.

First of all, you think a change in attitude will somehow solve all your problems, it won't, nothing will, all struggles in life are overcome through efforts on multiple fronts.

Second of all, the Chinese do not magically have some 'hard working ethic'. The children of well to do urban families in China today can be just as whiny and entitled as the worst liberal college.
And many lower tier cities and villages in China have the prevailing mentality of contentness, where they stop struggling and trying hard, because it is pointless given their low starting point.

Simply by being Australian, you are already massively advantaged compared to the average Chinese, just study coding and you'll be able to live a decent life.

Let's be real Chinks & Aussies, debates like this are not decided on morals, but on strength. The Aussies managed to have a whole continent to themselves, but it was a different time with the British Empire still going. They will not get to keep it, and instead of outright war, the elites have chosen immigration as a more productive way to redistribute what was acquired in the 18th century. The literal only way to undo this would be Global Thermonuclear Race War.

>>133232432
None of these are arguments in favour of immigration. It has been so damaging to us as a society, just as it has to every other western country who has done the same. Look at the divisions that exist in our society. Until the 1980s they were non-existant. The vast majority of immigrants we brought in before then were indistinguishable from us within a generation and regarded Australia and Australians positively.
An immigration program like that makes sense. What we've done since is masochist and misguided.

>>133233125
Why couldn't it be global with just european immigration and and a spike in our own birthrate that would occur due to decreased property prices and decreased taxation when we no longer had to pay for the welfare and services of refugees and other third worlders?

Are you telling me ethnicallly homogenous countries can't have global cities?

>>133232889
Read my posts, and look at Japan.
Japan keeps its racial and cultural homogeneity, yet is utterly destroyed in its confidence, identity and sense of prosperity.

There is no magical solution to the problems facing our society. which is faring very well compared to Europe or the US. Closing our doors will solve some problems, but cause so many others you haven't even dreamt that would be possible.
Our immigration policy is relatively successful, and problems won't be solved by abolishing it, but by constructive adjustment (which the government is already doing to the 457 work visa and PR changes).

>>133233461
WsNvEF9g already addressed this >>133230230
2nd last paragraph.

>>133207706
It's time for the mouse born in a stable to go back to his mouse house to learn how to be a mouse before returning to the stable.
>american education

>>133233210
agreed, liberal policies are a compromise to appease non white and avoid being overrun by a global communist revolution AND cheapen labour cost at the same time, non of that good will sharing bullshit the retards pretend to believe

>>133233567
So how would immigration help Japan? How would those problems you list (and a lack of identity is not one of their problems) be solved by mass immigration from different cultures?

At what point does China ensure 30% of it's population is comprised of non-chinese?

The only reason we are faring better than europe is that our immigrant population is less muslim and less african than theirs and we had a resources boom. This doesn't mean that immigration has been good for us though, they have set the bar pretty low.

The only reason you could possibly think our immigration program has been a success is because you don't know the country that I grew up in. I can tell you that despite the constant media and political propaganda that the majority of white Australians (behind closed doors) say that what we have done is a disaster.

Answer me this, if mass immigration from disparate cultures is so great why is there not a single non-white country on earth that does it?

>>133233567
>Japan keeps its racial and cultural homogeneity, yet is utterly destroyed in its confidence, identity and sense of prosperity.

I would argue that was more to do with Japan having the heart of its culture ripped out, atomic bombed, then replaced with an emasculated faux-western version by the USA at the end of WWII. Which again is due to foreigners fucking about inside the country, much like the absurd immigration policies in place in other nations today.

>>133233233
Does the same strategy work everytime in LoL or Dota or SC2?
No, because patches change, conditions change, which changes the requires strategy.
The world has changed since the 1980s, and immigration cannot just be restricted to Europeans anymore, because they just aren't coming to Australia anymore.

Asia's economic weight requires us to open the doors of immigration to them.
There are costs, but the costs of closing doors exceed them, I told you again and again to look at Japan. Closing doors solves some problems but creates so many more.

>>133233461
It won't be global, because 70% of our exports go to East Asia, we do fucking no trade with Europe I hope you understand. Do you really think Chinese tourists will come without a mandarin workforce?

> a spike in our own birthrate that would occur due to decreased property prices
You are fucking deluded, this rarely if ever happens. Japan's property price plummeted after its financial crisis, killing the birth rate. The US mortgage crisis killed the house prices in many places, and destroyed their communities along with it. Low house prices destroys economic confidence, and is thus never a good thing. The only way it increases birth rate is if it happened through territorial expansion (like the US expanding west), which isn't going to happen in 2017.

>Are you telling me ethnicallly homogenous countries can't have global cities?
No homogenous countries with a population of less than 100 million can have global cities.

>>133233812
You don't need to trade with a place to accept immigrants from it and again, we were perfectly capable of producing enough talented people to have an advanced economy and society for virtually all of our history, we don't all of a sudden need outside help. we are an intelligent and innovative people.

>>133208623
you have to go back

>>133207419
They are going to treat you like garbage.

>>133207419
Godspeed proper rice anon

>>133233201
I see your point. Australia is so comfortable that i can do next to nothing for a long long time and still come out okay.
i get it, you and people like you who come to Australia are the elites but im a huge lazy fuck here, probably more lazy than anyone you know in china
If anything, im like one of those lazy chinese from the village you're talking about who simply managed to live in Australia. If that chinese came to Australia he'd be very hardworking due to the opportunity that is available to him.

For now, im just too lazy to take the opportunity australia has for me

>>133234168
Japan was our largest trading partners for decades and we took virtually no Japanese immigrants and vice versa. Why do we need to take immigrants from a country to engage with them economically? You're just making this stuff up because your ego is too fragile to accept the fact that your being here is not necessarily adesirable thing for us. Your entire line of argument on here is driven by your own insecurities.

It's funny how only white countries HAVE to have immigration to survie isn't it? Despite the fact we created the modern world entirely on our own, never once needing help from anybody else.

>>133234103
Japan failed to capitalise on China or Korea's economic booms, and instead was outcompeted by them.

Because 1. it lacked the business talent that knew those countries well, and was instead kicked out by more culturally aware local competitors.

2. Because Japanese companies lacked the talent to maintain supremacy without talented immigration. Apples wouldn't exist without Jobs, who is a Syrian immigrant. Which lead to their profits collapsing and thus leading to a FUCKING 20 YEARS WITHOUT GROWTH.

>At what point does China ensure 30% of it's population is comprised of non-chinese?
China doesn't, because it is so fucking big, and right now it is starting to recruit labour from other less developed countries.
As for a smaller and far richer 'China', which is Singapore, guess what, it has exactly 30% non-Chinese.

The majority of Australians don't even know how other people in most countries live like, they don't know that they've had it best out of almost every country on the planet. Why change what isn't broke?

>if mass immigration from disparate cultures is so great why is there not a single non-white country on earth that does it?
Dubai has mass immigration (although without citizenship), Singapore has mass immigration, many countries wish they could attract top tier talent internationally, but lack the fucking appeal to do so.

>>133234168
Japan is culturally very different from us so has different reasons for it's borthrate issues. In Anglo-saxon countries birthrates have resurged in the past when those exact economic conditions changed the way I described.

If I accept your conditions for what makes a global city (and I don't) then I don't care anyway, let's not have them. We can still have a decent economy (we always have) and we will have a happy and intact society.

>>133234261
You think closing off migration while continuing international trade will help you stay competitive?
What makes you think talented individuals won't leave for more advanced globalised economies?

>>133207419
Chinese people are all retarded except the ones that flee China to make something of themselfs in another country.

>>133235011
But my mum is a dole bludger while my dad only works part time and lives away from the family. Hmmm

>>133234761
Japan has some problems and the economy is sluggish and it's still a huge economy and most people would rather live there than many of these countries with so-called tiger economies. Things will improve for them in the future though, all countries have periods of growth and malaise. Whatever happens there economically though, they will still be Japan and they will still be a country without major ethnic or religious tensions and where everybody has a shared sense of history and destiny, not a country of competing tribes who can't even disguise their contempt for each other on a message board.

>>133234148
Are u fucking kidding me? Japan before westernisation was a poor feudal society, it only started westernisation because of hiring foreign advisors and sending out students to study overseas.

The US also did very little to Japan culturally aside from enforcing democracy, they got to keep their emperor for gods sake.

Just keep your mind a bit open, I'm adamantly against immigration from proven failures like Africa or the Middle east, but there are extremely good reasons why the current immigration regime is a success.

>>133234623
I answered this in >>133230230
We used to just sell minerals, which needed little economic engagement.
Now that iron and coal are fucked, have you wondered why we haven't slid into economic oblivion? Its because we are doing service exports now, tourist booms, education booms, housing booms, which all are not going to happen without a foreign language speaking workforce. If Australians are willing to learn Mandarin your argument is valid, too bad almost no one does. Australians DID learn Japanese in large numbers (most popular 2nd language at school), which made trade possible, but it isn't happening anymore for Mandarin.

>>133234862
Because this is their country. I know that's hard for you to undertand because the country you live in is nothing more than real estate to you.

The fact is countries always have economic ups and downs, good and bad periods, no immigration or population will ever avert that forever. Bad policies like we have now that are destroying us as a nation. For me any economic consideration is secondary to the preservation of our national identity and our continued existence as a recognisable people.
Having said that I have looked at study after study and am certain that mass immigration no longer benefits us economically. Even those studies that claim it does now only claim that the positive net effect it very marginal anyway.

>>133235163
I'm a mega weeb who reads a ton about Japanese life.
I'm also academically successful enough to get mentored by a former diplomat to Japan.
Japanese life is fucking shit compared to Australia, you will quickly realise none of that identity shit matters when you are working 60 hours on a temp contract with no security because the economy has not enough talent to support successful companies.

And the country as a whole is pessimistic enough to chill your spines. Maybe in a few decades it will improve, but that's a fucking GENERATION, neither you and me wants to waste our whole adult lives in an awful economy.

Also, the most recent bright spot for the Japanese economy is tourism, from China. Because they dramatically loosened their visa policy. They are ever moving towards the idea of opening immigration. Of course, they aren't opening their doors to middle east refugees, but rather to wealthy Chinese, but that's what Australia is already doing.

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>>133235163
Youre saying a country's economic prosperity isn't as relevant as societal cohesion? Because if that's true you may as well just go live in a regional town. I once considered living in a regional town e.g. Armidale. At the end i decided on going to china.
I called a random residential number over there from white pages and the guy told me me this when i asked how he felt about sydney "hate it, couldn't wait to get out of there" he's lived in the small town all his life. So if your reasons are not economic but societal then you should leave otherwise you're just being entitled because you want a capital city to mole itself to your image.

Also pic related

>>133235453
Are those studies about the Mexican mass immigration to the US? Or the Turkish immi to Germany?
Australia's immigration is highly selective and skilled, completely different from those family or refugee based immigration policies.

>>133235265
Why do you think that happened for Japanese bbut not mandarin? It's because when you have mandarin speakers already living here there isn't the demand. If they weren't here and the demand rose we would learn Mandarin. How can you not see this.

There is also a lot of evidence that multiculturalism damage tourism massively in the long run. People want to travel to a country like Japan or Vietnam so they can visit a different culture and experience a different way of life. They don't want to visit what are become cookie-cutter multicultural western cities that don't offer any experience of a cullture that is connected to a place.

Again, as I've said many times economics isn't the first consideration anyway. There's no point propping yourself up economically in the short term with policies that are just going to fuck your society in the long run.

Our history is proof of our productivity, ingenuity and self-reliance. We don't need anyone. I am completely confident in our ability to prosper and survive on our own, just as I am completely confident in the ability of the Japanese, Taiwanese and Vietnamese etc to do the same in their own countries. Eventually all countries will have to find a soution to their problems other than 'muh more immigration!', so why not now?

>>133235655
Japan will never open up immigration and the fact that you could even entertain the idea that they are serious when they discuss the idea shows you don't know as much as you think about them as a people or culture.

Life in Japan will be fine again in time. Look at the depression and malaise that spread across the UK in the 1970s. It was a bleak and pessimistic time there but the mood and econmy lifted (in spite of their very bad immigration policy at the time). It always does and it always will.

I don't know how people think the mass importations of foreign peoples will ehlp with this stuff. It's like the goto answer for every problem for some people. Funny how no non-white country has ever done it, nor will they ever and that without a doubt includes japan.

>>133235991
No they're studies about Australia...

Again you have completely ignored any comment or argument I make about the damage to society done by immigration. You know what a shitty, divided city Sydney now is

>>133236050
>There is also a lot of evidence that multiculturalism damage tourism massively in the long run
Absolutely false.
Japan, up until recently, was in fact a net tourism importer, which meant Japanese spent more overseas than domestically.
Why? Because foreign tourists had a real hard time in Japan without being able to speak Japanese.
Why the recent success? Because aside from the visa policy, the number of Chinese students studying in Japan, and small number of immigrants builded up enough Chinese speaking talent to cater to the Chinese.

Vietnam doesn't have much of a tourist industry either, Thailand is popular only because it concentrated all the english speaking talent into the one city of bangkok, which is extremely hard to replicate.

Most people aren't purists wanting to experience a untainted foreign experience, the average rich Chinese tourist wants to enjoy our beaches but get serviced by Mandarin speaking waiters at the hotel.

> going to fuck your society in the long run.
What is the long run? Our lives are only going to last 50 more years, economic prosperity absolutely matters to the happiness of a country's people far more than some demographic change. Many poor countries happen to be culturally homogenous, and they don't like it one bit.

>Our history is proof of our productivity, ingenuity and self-reliance
Australia's history is one of attracting ambitious talent from Europe, not building itself up from the few thousand initial penal colony settlers. The european immigration path isn't happening anymore because Europe's population stalled and grew rich itself. Immigration from rich Asia is the only plausible alternative

>>133236476
>I don't know how people think the mass importations of foreign peoples will ehlp with this stuff.
Because there's not enough Australians to support the growing economy. And the government has to think about the country as a whole as opposed to just people like you who feels the need to impose their image onto the world due to your entitlement. And this is why you are entitled.
Australians are pretty much babied by their government. They become entitled and suddenly think they know best. You ever thought that even amongst anglo Australians that people care about the economy more than muh culture and society? Maybe you have no friends so you take it out on immigration.

>>133236476
You know little about Japan, and you accuse someone who can discuss Japanese issues with an ex-consul knowing little about Japan?(ambassadors to non-capital city embassies)

>Life in Japan will be fine again in time.
It is fucking not, I care deeply about Japan, and the youth there are giving up on life, giving up on having families or children because of the economic depression. It has lasted 20 years, and shows little sign of ending. You spend your life in booming (relatively) Australia with no idea how life like that is like.

I already told you that Singapore and Dubai does do mass immigration, are extremely wealthy and successful, and are non-white.

I am spending two hours typing these things to you because i am grateful to be educated and supported by the Australian government. So I hope you can gain something out of what I said.

The current immigration policy is not perfect, and in fact the government is tightening it heavily. But we are not europe mass importing refugees or blacks, Australia's heavily selected immigration process has brought it great wealth, and I hope you understand that abolishing it is no magical cure to social problems.

>>133235453
Wow so much rhetoric and so little substance. Just like an Australian. Go back to fucking the $100 chinese whores in sydney you were talking about

>>133237008
You clearly don't know much about Australian history. We built universities very early on and had relatively low immigration in the second half of the 1800s. We have constantly produced top entrepeuners and scientists from our own population. Look at Australian innovation in the 20th century compared to China, a vastly bigger country. Obviously social circumstances in China hindered things there but there is no reason at all to believe Australians won't continue to be a productive and innovative people. White people appear to be far more innovative than east asians anyway so I don't see how importing large amounts of people from less innovative populations will increase our levels of innovation in any meaningfull way.

And those european immigrants that did contribute, can't their descendants contribute also? Why do we need some flow of outsiders to be able to produce anyone capable of doing anything worthwhile. It constantly amazes me what a low opinion Chinese and Indians have of us as a people. Just another reason not to want you as our neighbours.

Multiculturalism has had an increasingly negative impact on western europe's tourism industry and is predicted to continue to have a negative impact into the future, even according to the estimates of their own government bodies. I think you're just citing anecdotes here not looking at genuine trends. Japan has a very healthy tourism industry. As for the language barrier issue that will never be an issue for tourism here as we are english speaking.

>>133225013
So you're in uni. The age where you think you know how the world works and your opinion is amazing.
And about the chinese girl working as prostitutes in sydney. I dont know about uni students but i read they come here on holiday visas then go into prostitution to make a quick buck then fly back

>>133237024
I know for a fact that most white Australians care very deeply about our identity and culture. Do youo really think they're going to be up front about this to you in person. You'd be surprised how little you know us.

>>133237748
How will immigration help Japan? It won't. This is nonsense. Singapore and Dubai are city states and give out residency or visas to very wealthy people or in the case of Dubai people they need for certain skills or businesses. But Dubai isn't a country, the country is UAE and none of these foreignors are getting Emirati citizenship.

You really are being very misleading and it's telling that you have to find exceptional and innaccurate examples to make your point.

I repeat, if you think there is any chance that Japan is going to initiate mss-immgration then you don't kknow much about Japan, regardless of who you've been talking to.

If all this stuff is so great then why aren't non-white countries.

Singapore is 75% Chinese and 15% Malay (the indigenous people), of the remaining 10% over 7% are Indians who the British took there a long time ago. So I ask you, if Singapore has a mass immigration program how is it that it hasn't altered the countries ethnic make up at all? I would have no problem with an immigration program that doesn't alter our ethnic make up in any significant way.

>>133207419
You understand Guangzhou is the shitest first tire city in China right? And you'll be exposed to guangdonghua which is useless unless you're in Hongkong. Not to mention a strange over-representation of nigs.

There is little Chinese about the PRC. Your life will be one of random identity checks, labyrinthine bureaucracy, checking the air pollution rating every day and a public service sector full of people grandfathered into positions where they want to collect their 3k RMB each month and do as little work as possible.

>>133237848
Triggered are we?

We have the right to self-determination just like every other people on the planet. I don't expect Taiwan, or Singapore or China to ever become minority Chinese and I would think it bizarre (and unconvincing) to argue that they should on economic grounds. Why does the idea of Australia retaining it's ethnic identity offend you so much? I mean this as a serious question

>>133238378
I was just responding to being called a sell out constantly and no one giving me a reason why except that happened to work wit Chinese people sometimes. that argument makes no sense to me. Should I racially discrimate while at work? It's bizarre what they were arguing. That did happen with that girl though. I knew her friend quite well and she swore it was true.

>>133208830
HOLY FUCK THIS

Anyway, by law you need your passport with you 24/7 so whatever. Only good thing about being a 白人 is the subway security leave you the fuck alone.

>>133238378
I'm not in uni anymore, that was ten years ago.

>>133238312
> Why do we need some flow of outsiders?
Japan thought the same thing, until their population growth stalled, and thus lost the talent war against foreign companies.

It isn't enough to 'stay the same' in the global economy, Australia is already at the top, and to keep that position, it must siphon the best talent from the world. Talent from Europe or the US isn't coming, so the next best option is from China and India.

>Multiculturalism has had an increasingly negative impact on western europe's tourism industry
Its because of islamic terrorism, black and arab criminality, not because of 'immigration' in general. We are not importing arabs in large numbers.

>As for the language barrier issue that will never be an issue
Are you fucking kidding me? You think the Chinese and Japanese tourists (the two largest non NZ sources) will come here because we have english speaking staff?

>Japan has a very healthy tourism industry.
It is only very recently healthy, as I said it was in negative balance for a long time, read the Mckinsey report on Jap tourism for more info.

>>133238493
They care because they have the privilege to care, if their economy was in deep depression for two decades they would begin to care less.
And my question to you, is that do you care? I'm applying for a rural banking internship, because I want to help the rural white farmers, especially with gaining access to the Chinese market.
I care about the future of western civilization, which is precisely I think deeply about how to improve the livlihoods of whites. Having a negative birth rate for two decades is not going to help whites.

>>133207419
>Guangzhou
why do so many chinese emigrants seem to come from guandong?

>>133239437
> But Dubai isn't a country, the country is UAE and none of these foreignors are getting Emirati citizenship.

You think i don't know this? I already pointed this out in
>>133234761
But singapore does have 100% mass immigration and is 100% non-white, they keep their ethnic composition because they can find enough chinese immigrants wanting to come. Australia cannot find that many educated European immigrants, it is an impossibility in 2017 unless you are willing to dig low from Eastern Europe.

Neither are they exceptional examples, there aren't that many rich non-white countries in the first place (less than 10), and only rich countries can attract immigration, so of course examples are few in numbers.

Even Japan, look at this graph
https://www.japanmacroadvisors.com/page/category/economic-indicators/labor-markets/immigration-to-japan/
The number of foreign residents are soaring, it will take another decade or so, but Japan will open up to Asian immigration.

>>133239437
>Singapore and Dubai are city states and give out residency or visas to very wealthy people or in the case of Dubai people they need for certain skills or businesses. But Dubai isn't a country, the country is UAE and none of these foreignors are getting Emirati citizenship.

We actually started doing that as well, mostly to Chinese millionaires in order to reap the rewards of the capital flight going on in China right now, you know, because nothing says "gdp growth will remain strong till China is the world superpower" like massive investment in foreign property markets and mass exodus of millionaires.

>>133240709
Most immigrants are from Coastal China which is the richest.
Guangdong is the largest coastal province by far, it has 100 mil population, probably 30% of the coastal provinces' total.

The animosity that is plainy obvious on this board as well as on the streets of major cities, the tensions in workplace conversations, the darkness and silence that have descended over whle areas of once open discussion are not worth any amount of money. Neither is the splintering of our cities and suburbs along racial and religious lines, the fear and the mistrust between people that has become a part of daily life. There is a decline and spirit and confidence among our people as our identity is eroded away and constantly challenged and criticised and the hostility of people who moved to our country to become (we thought Australians) becomes more and more apparent. At the end of the day you people hate us and regard us wth contempt. I have no idea why that is and i don't think you know either. It's an instinctive not a rational thing. You argue that your being here, and millions more foreignors following you here in the future is a good thing for us not because you believe that but because you are afraid we will stop the process before we become a minority. You know Australians are unhappy with what is happening and that they are right to be. You would never do this in your own country and you know you wouldn't.
You must feel the dissatisfaction with what is going on and it obviously makes you afraid but you should ask yourself would agreeing to arrest the demographic shift before it becomes total be better or worse for you? People will accept the presence of others in their land if the numbers don't become overwhelming and there is an obvious process of assimilation going on. the west is moving fast beyong that point though. What do you think is going to happen when westerners wake up one morning and find themselves minorities in the countries their ancestors created? Do you htink they'll be happy to pass on such a llegacy to their children or will they be enraged with their own leaders and the people who now outnumber them and regard them not as countrymen

>>133220713
>Australian born ethnics
white ethnics too?

>>133241403
I am a Chinese immigrant, and I can certainly see the ungratefulness coming from many other immigrants, and it angers me.

However, you must realise the ungrateful and white hating immigrants are mostly of Middle-Eastern and African ethnicities. Asian immigrants are mostly politically silent.

Lastly, you keep thinking about the demographic shift in the wrong relative terms.
You should be thinking in absolute terms
Australia's white population is growing because of the good economy, which is in part due to a successful immigration regime.
The alternative is Japan, where the native population is declining rapidly, do you really prefer the latter?

If it was in the US, I would vote for trump, because immigration is uncontrollable and not selective. Australia's immigration is not out of control, the government is clamping down on abusive work visas and PRs. So please moderate your views on our immigration policy.

>>133224504
what is the source to that text?