Holy shit

None of this is even *theoretically* a crime.

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>>133181844
New York Times is shit!
Google CREEPY JOE instead!
Sage and slide/////////

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>>133181844

Surely this is it this time!

>>133181844
Says an increasingly nervous she male for the 99th time this week.

>>133181844
>that format

This is the mind of a libcuck, wow

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>>133181844
ANONS READ THIS THREAD RN
>>133178789
>>133178789
>>133178789

THIS IS THE SAME SHIT THEY DID TO ASSANGE

RIGHT DOWN TO THE E-MAIL STATING THEY ARE CONNECTED TO THE RUSSIAN GOV

>>133178789

THIS IS THE SAME SCAM AS "TODDANDCLARE.COM" THAT WAS ATTEMPTED ON ASSANGE

>CIA NIGGER CATFISHING OPS AGAINST TRUMP JR

they just can't let russia go. They tried for like a week and were reduced to bitching about the presidents tweets. Had to revive the russia conspiracy.

>>133181844
>It might really be over this time
says increasingly nervous man for the 9000th time this year

>>133181844
impeachable? no.

>>133181844
>but he was speaking to a RUSSIAN, obviously it was an agent of the vile putin
This is getting old

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>>133181844

>>133182449
if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth

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Pizzagate: there's no evidence but it must be true!

Russian meddling: there's all this evidence, none of it must be true!

desu I hope hiroshimoot never deletes /pol/. It's a living joke.

>>133181844

But they went to the authorities. How can it be a crime if they didn't set up the meeting, ended it early, didn't make anymore contact, and in fact went to the authorities? (Which has triggered the congressional judiciary ctte to investigate democratic involvement in the meeting)

>>133183041

this lol

>>133183041

Nice

R*ddit

Spacing!

Unfortunately,

You

have

to

go

back

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>>133183041
Almond status:
>Set to the on position

>>133183041
>>133183041

muh seth rich!

If there was no wrong doing why has he vehemently denied meeting with any Russians at all until Saturday after the Times report?. Why did he say on Saturday that they only met to discuss "adoptions" (read sanctions) then only admit on Sunday that the meeting was initiated with an offer of "information useful to the campaign" after more Times reporting?

So what if Russia gave trump info on hillary?

Is the info true? Then who cares where it came from?

Fucking nigger tier Democrats crying because the evil cunt got caught.

Fuck off

>>133183604
>they only met to discuss "adoptions" (read sanctions)

And why did he later go to starbucks (read: embassy) to buy a latte (read: pick up his bribe check) from the cute blonde girl (read: the KGB agent)?

>>133183476
You realize independent thoughts are separated by between 1 and 2 linebreaks, right? Some people prefer 2 linebreaks, especially in situations where punctuation use is variable and line length isn't readily apparent.

I think the only time I don't space my shit is when I'm
>greenposting
since the demarcation is clear

>>133183731
Literally this. If the Russians gave the goods, then anyone who actually gives a shit about the sanctity of the American government (not most people) should be thanking them.

>>133183041
I'm sure you wouldn't mind posting that evidence then.

>>133181844
>>133183041
>>133183333
>>133183576
>>133183604
>>133183925


None of this is criminal. But do you know what is criminal? Comey, Mccabe, Dws, dnc paying a russian agent to set up a major party nominee on false pretenses.

Tick fucking tock.

>>133183604

He didn't vehemently deny meeting russians. Tick tock.

>>133183476
>spends so much time on /r/T_D he knows all their posting tendencies

Yikes

>>133184106
>missing the point that badly

>>133183970
this didn't occur until the influx of r_d during the election season
what a convenient excuse for such a coincidence

>>133182449
I guess the ratings were down

This trumpfag damage control is hilarious
>collusion is not a crime
>muh Hilary
>it was only conspiracy, not actual collusion
>Trump was too dumb to know anything bout it

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>>133184200
i've never been to reddit in my entire fucking life except to read a thread on how to root my phone 4 years ago. go fuck yourself

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>>133184106
it's all there in the email sent by Mr. Goldstone.
read the new york times article.

>>133184091

it went from

>IT NEVER HAPPENED! LOL FAKE NEWS LIBS

to

>WHO CARES? IT'S NOT ILLEGAL... IN FACT IS AWESOME.

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>>133181844
>three unnamed people

>>133183604
You mean denied meeting the the Russian government? She didn't and doesn't work for the government.

Also, it looks like they smelled it was a setup, and since congress is now investigating their claims against Fusion GPS, my guess is they've covered their asses pretty well.

BTW, any link to Fusion GPS comes up and the Dems are sunk. The lawyer turned out to be in the US on a special exemption and broke the law by meeting w a private citizen.

>>133184373
no, it didn't. this weird nazi-propaganda approach of repeating nonsense that shareblue & democrat operatives use isn't going to work.

>>133184370
>>133184373
>>133184352
>>133183604
>>133183041

Tick tock, sweeties. Tick fucking tock.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-09/comey-bombshell-fbi-directors-leaked-trump-memos-contained-classified-information

“So you didn’t consider your memo or your sense of that conversation to be a government document?,” Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) asked Comey on June 8. “You considered it to be, somehow, your own personal document that you could share to the media as you wanted through a friend?”

“Correct,” Comey answered. “I understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. As a private citizen, I thought it important to get it out.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing classified information
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


https://vault.fbi.gov/miog/manual-of-investigative-operations-and-guidelines-miog-part-02-01-of-06/view

Tick fucking tock.

>>133183041

spot on

>>133184373
The e-mails are very important. Have you ever read them?

>>133183731
>So what if Russia gave trump info on hillary?
Well it's punishable with several years in federal prison for everyone of material involvement in the arrangement or execution of the exchange that knew one party was a foreign national if true.

In fact, even if they gave them jack shit, as long as they said they would and steps were taken to facilitate that, everyone involved still goes to jail.

>>133184091
Yeah we should totally be thanking Don Jr for offering the Russians foreign policy favors in exchange for dirt on Clinton.

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>>133182179

I was on that list before it was cool.

>>133184373
No, we're just pointing out that in order to keep this shit remotely believable to anyone who isn't a libtard, they've watered it down to the point that it isn't even a crime if it was true. Libtards are moving the goalposts, not us, dumbass.

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>>133181844

>Described to the times by three people

literally who?

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>>133181844
>New york times found 3 people familiar with an email between 2 people
>The guy who wrote the email says they are wrong in the article

DRUMPF is finished! Its over for him

>>133184370
Goldstone is fucked once the Fusion link is confirmed. He may end up being the first dem to see jail time.

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>posting in a shareblue divide and conquer thread

Character assassination is when you try to make a person irrelevant because you destroyed the perception of their personality. You try to make it so nobody likes them anymore, so nobody listens to them anymore. You do it when you see that person as a threat.

You can spot it when there's clear spam about a certain person, and asking who benefits from that spam. e.g. /pol/ doesn't benefit from abandoning Lauren Southern. She is starting thousands of normies down the redpill path.

Shareblue/antifa does benefit. This is a shareblue character assassination attempt, using stuff they think will get /pol/ to hate her. Lying about her being jewish is one way. Calling her a slut/racemixer is another. Calling her a coward or weakling is another. etc. etc.

It's to shareblue's benefit if every alt-light and alt-right personality gets entirely discredited so /pol/ no longer has any big voices on their side, and normies stop getting redpilled, which is why they do it.

You cunts are here to try to neutralize /pol/ and the other places you brigade before the 2018 and 2020 elections with your retarded divide and conquer tactics.

All that means is that nationalism is going mainstream, something that should be encouraged at all levels, and it also means you commie pieces of shit are losing bigger than shit.

Die in a fire.

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>>133184476

These faggots are frightened. The shilling is insane. The best part is this is a trap that President Trump has set. Comey and Mccabe are so fucked.

>>133184728
Goldstone was one, he set it up.

>>133184683
Just because your Jew overlords keep insisting Russia is our enemy doesn't mean they are.

>>133184683

>for offering the Russians foreign policy favors in exchange for dirt on Clinton.

You guys really just jump to conclusions that you want, regardless of reality, don't you?

How do you rectify the dissonance? Like how do you not re-examine yourself after every single thing you get behind turns up to be lies.

Do you just not have the memory to remember when you're duped, so you never confront it?

>>133184352
This libtard conspiracy mongering is hilarious
>SESSIONS TALKED TO A RUSSIAN ONCE! IMPEACH!
>DJT JR TALKED TO A RUSSIAN ONCE! IMPEACH!
>TREASON!!!

Get over it, she lost.

>>133184782

True, but they are isolated, destroyed, and prone to getting redpilled.

>>133184576
1. He didn't give the classified documents to anyone
2. He was fired while the classified documents he had the clearance to have were in his possession

You can't convict someone of being fired.

>>133181844
In what universe is hearing out a possible source of dirt on your political rival a crime, bad judgement, unethical, or anything of the sort?

It's shit like this that really shows the extent of fake news.

>He met someone from RUSSIA? A REAL RUSSIAN? WE HAVE HIM NOW!

It's literally the most retarded wild goose chase the world has ever seen because there ISN'T EVEN A GOOSE, by the FBI's own fucking admission.

>>133182085
Yes. It is.

Your one hope now is that the Trump admin sent three guys to lie to the NYT in order to embarrass them. Barring that, Jr is going to jail. I guess daddy can pardon him (unless he's already been impeached at that point).

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>>133181844
Read the entire article and it details that essentially, NOTHING HAPPENED.

>>133183041
Literally this, also any valid criticism gets responded by muh Seth Rich. I literally come to this place for pure entertainment

>>133184928
I'm not saying he did it, I'm just pointing out how foolish this fucker's point is >>133184091 in the scenario he envisions.

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>>133184373
It went from "
>collusion never hapoened
to
>collusion never happened and now the DNC is setting itself up as more and more investigations into Obama administration officials and Clinton affiliates are opened while the msm sweeps it all under the rug and accuses Trump even louder even as the msm is found with their hands in the cookie jar again and again and again invalidating every story they produce and raising more and more questions into the entire of (((((left wing media, left wing politics, establishment and career politicians, global pedo ring, global satanist, global jewry, and the world order)))))
You people are so fucked honestly I would just go quiet and disappear while I had the chance... At this point you're playing with fire just posting here. Can't imagine it will be long before you're declared enemies of the state and the /pol/ wizards use the infamous weaponized autism to track you down to the exact coordinates. Be careful (((anon))), we would all hate for anything bad to happen to you.

>>133185019
He actually has a defense if he claims he didn't believe the email that told him the lady was a foreign national.

He'd have to convince a jury, but at least it's a defense. He's basically confessed to every other element of the crime.

>>133184660
t. internet lawyer

Good call not posting the actual law you're claiming was broken, though. It's harder to rip apart your post that way.

>>133185019
No. It isn't.

Talking to someone isn't a crime.

>>133184806
Yup. Chuck Grassley's statement that he will investigate Fusion GPS involvement in the meeting predates every article written about this. They are only reacting to Grassley closing in. (just pray congress does something for once)

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>>133185088

>I'm not saying he did it

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>>133184998

He was to return government property to its rightful owner. The fact that half of it was highly classified is even more comical. Tick fucking tock.

>>133185199
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

>>133183041

The mental gymnastics are fantastic. They'll go on right up to and continue through Trump people getting charged and going to jail.

>>133184660
Post the actual law faggot. You cant because it doesn't exist.

>>133185300

It is if you conflate financial statute with information.

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>>133185019
If it's a crime then Hillary colluding with the Ukranians is a crime. Neither are crimes, so there's no illegality. Media hype, keep the story going, keep the nation distracted while the GOP cucks play with their cocks and McCain and Faggot Graham can get their weekly appearances on sunday shows. It's all a fucking bunch of bullshit.

>>133184998
>be government agent with highest clearances
>have some ultra-classified stuff in your possession
>get fired
>"Herpaderp I guess all these nuclear launch codes and pictures of alien spaceships are mine now. I wonder how much the Enquirer will pay for them."

>>133185226
>He was to return government property to its rightful owner
And he did.

There isn't a time limit on that. Shit was properly returned to people with the appropriate clearances.

The one document he didn't properly return wasn't classified, and while this is a violation of federal document restrictions, those aren't criminal in nature and would only be punishable with a firing, which you can't do to the unemployed.

>>133184560
Please for the love of God stop comparing these absolute faggot retards to NSDAP. The only thing they have in common with the Reich is that neither gassed six million jews.

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>>133185155

>he'd have to convince a jury

Oh sweetie. Is this what cnn told you? This isn't some communist country like germany, hon. We have this little thing called the bill of rights. Natural rights endowed by our Creator.

Tick fucking tock, hon.

>>133185262
Wow you're fucking stupid. This is talking about foreign donations, like Bernie Sanders got from faggot Europeans. Foreigners are not allowed to donate money to political campaigns, that should be obvious. Getting information from a foreigner is not illegal stop being retarded.

>>133185395
Makes sense.

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>>133182085
where were you when the pee pee tapes were confirmed to exist?

p27 of the dossier:
>Two knowledgeable St Petersburg sources claim Republican candidate TRUMP has paid bribes and engaged in sexual activities there but key witnesses silenced and evidence hard to obtain
>Both believe Azeri business associate of TRUMP, Araz AGALAROV will know the details

From the article:
>Mr. Goldstone represents Russian pop star Emin Agalarov, whose father was President Trump’s business partner in bringing the Miss Universe pageant to Moscow in 2013.
>In an interview Monday, Mr. Goldstone said he was asked by Mr. Agalarov to set up the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya.

From the annotations in the annotated dossier:
>Aras Agalarov is an Azerbaijani businessman and real estate developer. He, along with his son, persuaded Trump to hold the 2013 Miss Universe pageant at one of their properties in Moscow, for which Trump traveled to the city.
>Agalarov was also involved in plans to construct a Trump Tower in Russia, which ultimately fell through.

More info on things from the dossier which have been proven true
http://annotateddossier.com/
>inb4 not clicking that
http://archive.is/c4EX0

>>133183041
Shill
0.02 has been deposited in your account
Seth Rich was murdered
Vladimir did nothing wrong
Kike
Heil Hitler

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>>133181844
all good things come to those who wait...

>>133184576
How is the legality of Comey's actions relevant to:

1. Whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians?
2. Whether Trump obstructed justice by leaning on Comey to back off the Flynn investigation?

>>133185262
June 2016
Trump not yet President
Election months away
No agreement made (or deal)

This law wasn't broken.

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>>133185294

You misspelled "Clinton". Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133185373
>a donation of money or other thing of value
The "financial statute" as you so put it explicitly allows for prosecution for the exchange things that are not money.

Information can have value. That's why people pay for that shit.

>>133185300
See
>>133185262

>>133185395

>McCain

can we meme his human trafficking foundation to death yet?

Did you even read that statute shareblue nigger?

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>>133185155
Wrong. Doesn't even matter if he knew she was russian, the claim is that he knew the information she claimed to have was from the russian govs efforts to influence the election.

Unless the email says its info direct from putin its still less than nothing lel

>>133185579
>where were you when the pee pee tapes were confirmed to exist?

Thanks for front-loading the bullshit in your post so I didn't waste my time reading the rest of it.

>>133185659

>explicitly

Except it EXPLICITLY applies to monetary gains.

You are attempting to create an IMPLICIT association.

>>133184370
> that hyperkike face

>>133185421
He returned all the classified shit to the government.

He did not give them to the Enquirer, working with them is Trump tier behavior.

>>133184817
(((Goldstone)))

>>133184576
More weak damage control
>but I read a blog that said someone might have done something
>>133184931
>they lie about it because it's a nothing urgent, then they lie some more when caught lying
You trumpfags are retarded

>>133185659
Value obviously means monetary value you stupid fuck. If Trump received a bunch of gold from Russia to fund his campaign then he could be prosecuted yeah.

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>>133181844
>tfw collusion isn't even a crime.
>tfw liberals are literally chasing ghosts.
>tfw 8 years.

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>>133185486

oh no, hon. This is the USA. we actually have secrets that matter due to our being the only superpower in the world. Comey is facing ten years per count. Yiur life is about to get much, much more unbearable, sweetie.

>>133185505
>natural rights override election law
Oh, you're one of THOSE people

>>133185523
>money
or other things of value

You wouldn't need that qualifier if it just covered money.

But sure, oppo research doesn't have value, that's why nobody pays out the ass for that shit and why Trump's top 3 campaign staff didn't waste their time meeting with a Russian agent to get some on Hillary.

Hey op how much money do you get for posting the same thread over and over?

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>>133185560

It's so funny all these shills have no idea that President Trump has his enemies dead to rights.

>>133186002

They never cared about Comey, he was just a means to an end.

Under the bus he goes!

Queue the formulaic dissociation articles when shit actually starts hitting.

>>133185913
Nixon: Illegal things become legal when the president does them.
Trump: Legal things become literal treason when the president('s son) does them.

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>>133181844
OH NO DRUMPF JR IS FINISHED

IMPEACH DRUMPFS SON RIGHT NOW

>>133186039
>You wouldn't need that qualifier if it just covered money.
The qualifier is referring to things like gold or jewelry or other things of value. The whole point of this law is to stop foreign donations funding political campaigns. You are reading more into it because you're desperate.

>>133185627
>No agreement made (or deal)
>No person shall knowingly provide substantial assistance in the solicitation, making, acceptance, or receipt of a contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d), and (g) of this section.
Arranging a meeting whereby you and 2 of your buddies in the campaign could hear oppo research (a thing of value) from a Russian (foreign national), is by definition providing substantial assistance in the receipt of a contribution prohibited by section (b)

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>>133185579

The dossier that has been thoroughly disproven. Tick tock, sharia. Tick fucking tock.

>>133185155
>Crime
What crime? Please point me to where this article says he committed a crime.

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>>133184693
not the waifus!!!!! HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!!!

>>133186318
What do you think "contribution" and "donation" are referring to?

>>133183081
>"hey guys, I knowingly went to a meeting expecting to collaborate with a foreign national to influence the election but I promise we talked about babies instead."

>>133185621

We've already establisehed that those two hoaxes are nothing. We are moving on to phase two. Tick tock.

>>133184782
Blame the idiot Redditors for trying to lump /r/the_donald with /pol/ so badly they made the shilling 10 times worse than it should be. Idiot mods should start banning links to Reddit

>>133185621
still no proof of collusion, also the whole thing was a scam and no crime was committed

>>133185825
>Except it EXPLICITLY applies to monetary gains.
[citation needed]

>A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
>money or other thing of value
>or other thing of value

>>133185262
He didn't accept money, so that law wasn't broken

>>133185913
>Value obviously means monetary value you stupid fuck
>oppo research doesn't have monetary value
Then why do people pay for it?

>>133186326

most of it proven true, none proven false.

nice try comrade

>>133183925

Have a (you)

>>133185721
No. But exposing his financial ties to Russia and how they influenced HIM
https://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties/

>>133181844
>A random lawyer who happens to be Russian and gas no connection to the Kremlin told DTJ about the Kremlin ties in Clinton's campaign team

Drumpf is finished guys, seriously this time!!!1!

>>133186529

>or other thing of value

Yes, such as property, stock options, etc.

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>>133185873

Um no sweetie. He testified that he viewed it as personal property. Comey will be ass raped in prison, hon.

>>133185642
Where did "tick tock" come from and why is everyone saying it now? Genuine question

>>133181844
Number 1 story on Drudge.... shiiieeeet

>>133186472

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/

>>133181844
lol i love it when they keep thinking somethings going to happen to trump

>>133186591
How do you determine the monetary value of opposition research when you attempt to prosecute this law?

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Independent of all the other bullshit, it's hilarious that the latest desperate attempt to get Trump hinges on campaign finance laws actually being enforced for the first time in recorded history.

>>133186675

russian paid shills.

>>133182085
any other century Trump would be killed over this

>>133186616

I'm tired of kid gloves with him, senpai.

Dude needs to burn, while he can still understand that he's burning. I give him 4 years until Old Timer's disease swallows his mind completely.

>>133185013
>In what universe is hearing out a possible source of dirt on your political rival a crime

Not this one

>>133185903

Oh no, hon. We saw the testimony. We have all read the report from the Hill. Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133186594
You people deserve to be piled into train cars.

>>133186529
Damaging information does not have a monetary value.

That's implying any damaging information was even exchanged, which the article clearly states there is no evidence of.

>>133186318
They agreed to the meeting but were lied to. They thought they were getting oppo research from a private citizen. Go ahead and prove them wrong.

>>133185149
Is there a spot to find any of these pictures.

>>133186629
Seriously, every single one of these stories is based upon fucking innuendo just using the R-word

As a rule of thumb, substitute the word "Russian" for any other nationality in the headline, and then you realize what non-stories these are

eg: Trump held confidential meeting with Kremlin-linked Russian ambassador in the White House

oh wait, that's what diplomats are SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DO

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>>133185592
Says the austistic communist

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>>133181844

itt: CNN tries one more time to push a dead failed fake news narrative before finally committing suicide

>>133186002
>This is the USA. we actually have secrets that matter due to our being the only superpower in the world.
None of which he illegally handled and all of which was turned over to Congress or the special prosecutor within a month.

There isn't a law that says you have to turn in all your classified shit within 5 days of being fired or something that I'm aware of. He made to move to abscond with classified information.

But sure, fire him for distributing the unclassified memo without proper permission. Oh wait.

>>133183970
>greenposting
turn in your 4chin card nigger

>>133186039

Yes, I am an American Christian. Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133186832
The shills apparently think that opposition research is a thing of monetary value (lol) As if the law is not referring to things like gold and jewelry.

>>133186803
No, sorry, I was hoping someone who isn't a retarded faggot could answer... Thank you though I appreciate your time

>>133186810
>any other century Trump would be killed over this

For a second I was worried you were inciting violence, but thankfully you didn't post a wrestling gif.

>>133186810

But we live in a century where black men are elected president, and women and jews almost win.

Different times, m8.

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>>133186937
I collected them on faceberg... Here's another for ye

>>133185523
It's plainly illegal for a foreign government to spend money trying to influence a US election. The email indicated that Russia did indeed spend money to influence the election. Donald Trump Jr by his own admission, met with that foreign power with the explicit goal to help (collude with) said foreign power influence the election.

Seems pretty clear cut

These leaks are allegedly coming from the White House. Is this Bannon finally purging Kushner? If so, awesome.

...I mean so what if he has to throw Jr. under the bus, too.

>>133187011
the shills are also normal shitposters who know how easy it is to troll on here thanks to the idiot Redditors taking their bait

>>133185149
So what cool Internet forum are you invading from? Do you feel like you are doing something? Pol is a Trump board.

>>133185642
I started it years ago, liberals stole it like all my other memes. I don't think they know how it works though, it means running the clock. There's no clock here, we won. also NYT is fake news!

>>133186195

He is a pawn. Trump and Sessions are hunting BIG GAME.

>>133185810
this
I was actually relieved as the rest of that post became a blur on my screen

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>>133186937

>>133187134

If you don't destroy all tendrils of rot, it will reform more powerful than it ever was.

That should've been made clear by now.

Basically here's where this logic falls apart. If you are going to say opposition research is a thing of monetary value, because people sometimes pay for it, then you can argue literally anything is a thing of monetary value. For example, since people pay for voice acting that would mean that speach itself could be a thing of monetary value and you could be prosecuted simply for talking with a foreigner. It's an utter nonsense argument. This law is clearly referring to things with clear market value, such as gold or jewelry or perhaps a nice car.

>>133186314
The purpose of the law is to prevent campaigns from receiving valuables so they can turn said valuables into money so they can turn said money into goods and services that would benefit the campaign which cost money.

Directly providing the goods or services that benefit the campaign would violate the letter AND the spirit of the law.

If the Russians had a bunch of Vote for Trump buttons made for the campaign you wouldn't be claiming that shit doesn't apply. Oppo research is something campaigns pay for. This shit is a clear violation of the law.

>>133187095
I've seen ratchet skanks on Judge Judy who were better lawyers than you.

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>>133183041
Hey shill, put your 4chan ID where your mouth is. Put the other picture that's in this set up. It's legal but the other pic of this set will get you a 4chan ban. Yep, nothing weird about Mr. Old man Tony Podesta hanging pics of girls in his office that'll get you a ban on this filthy site.

>>133186992
he doesn't have one. he hasn't been here long enough. for all i know this is his first day

>>133186418
>What do you think "contribution" and "donation" are referring to?
money or other things of value.

what are you, retarded? It's right in the text.

>>133187121
Surely you're not under the impression from anything I've said that I'm not pro-Trump

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>>133186318

So you're saying Comey and DWS broke the law. I agree. They are both going to prison. Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133184753
First paragraph looks like everyone Trump has ever known is going to jail.

Almost at the end, Goldstone says he never thought Russian gov't involved.
Female atty says she's not involved with Russian govt.
Kremlin said they don't know any of them.
Funny thing, is the lawyer wasn't allowed to speak with anyone, as her visa only allowed her to be in court...so, somebody got some splainin to do.

>>133186583
See
>>133186529

>>133185560
What's with quoting this faggot? Besides, there's a difference -- one involves illegal hacking and decimation of information stolen by a foreign adversary. And the other is paying what amounts to a Private Investigator to check his sources for dirt. Finding dirt is not the issue, everyone does it. Plus Steele was originally hired by a Bush operatives

>>133187287
Not an argument

>>133181844
The information was '''''''''voluntarily disclosed'''''''' by Trump Jr. It probably went through seven different lawyers. It'll lead to nothing.

NYT likes to portray the one side very strongly because they hate Trump, but judges can't do that.

>>133186659
>He testified that he viewed it as personal property.
And do you have any evidence that he didn't believe that?

>>133181844

I bet Trump is more pissed off right now than he's ever been in his entire life.

>>133183041
Hillary won the popular vote

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>>133181844
>people still listen to the press
Why are people so retarded?

>>133187413
If you expect a counterargument, post a non-retarded one of your own.

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>>133187131
Dang. I was gonna say I haven't seen anyone saying it at all and then I said it in a comment and now I'm seeing it everywhere. Ego deflated

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>>133183041
HERE is the REAL truth /pol/

Russia DID help Trump win the presidential election by using online 'trolls' as well as disseminating harmful information about the DNC through the Email leak. Trump realized what was going on and was careful not to piss off the Russians with his rhetoric, but he never actually colluded directly with them.

Pizza gate is real, but it is mostly rich guys fucking 15 16 and 17 year old sex workers. These are the women they use to get blackmail on people. Younger girls are also trafficked, but their abuse is more limited in the upper echelons of society than /pol/ would presume.

At last now you can truly see, radical centrism is always right!

>>133187480
Illegals don't count

>>133186754
>How do you determine the monetary value of opposition research when you attempt to prosecute this law?
The law doesn't require a specific monetary value. It only requires that monetary value exists.

Simply bring in a professional opposition researcher and ask them how much they're paid for opposition research in a given election cycle. Hell if anyone from the Trump campaign was stupid enough to take the stand, ask them how much they paid out for research.

>>133186594

Not even one aspect is true, You are off your pills again, hon.

http://www.aim.org/special-report/the-final-truth-about-the-trump-dossier/

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>>133187480

>50 years after the DNC has collapsed utterly, crushed from within
>this will be the lefty version of "hitler did nothing wrong"

Fusion GPS set up a phony meeting with a Russian lawyer so that they could manufacture the Russian narrative. The reason Lynch, Holder, etc have been making these "remember the #conspiracy! #resist lawful orders!" tweets is because they are going to be prosecuted.

This isn't about Don Jr, this is about Kushner getting caught lying on security clearance forms, again
>bye globalist kike

>>133187588
Trump is a radical centrist...

HERE'S HOW BERNIE CAN STILL WIN!

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>>133187606
you are literally lying

http://annotateddossier.com/
>also, inb4 not clicking that
http://archive.is/c4EX0

>>133181844
Even if this (((muh russia))) stuff wasn't complete bullshit, why would Russia want to help trump? How would having a strong nationalist leader in the United States be a better thing for Russia than having some weak democrat who would offer them "reset buttons"?

>>133187599
You would still have to prove that the Russian was going to donate the intel to Don. It would be perfectly legal for Don to buy the info from the Russian lady.

>>133187588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1fUwKMdAI

AUEGHHHH MY BRAIN

IT'S EXPANDING

>>133186921
>Damaging information does not have a monetary value.
Glad to know blackmail has never ever been a thing.
>That's implying any damaging information was even exchanged,
No, it is not. Simply arranging to exchange something of value is illegal. Fuck, simply promising to arrange to exchange something of value is illegal.

>>133187422
this. whenever Trump has a little momentum NYT or WAPO are right there with a big leak. nobody will remember this shit by next Monday

>>133185924
What happened to there is no collusion?
And now collusion is ok because it's not a crime?
Whereto are you going to move to goalpost next?

It's over. Brought down by his own retarded progeny. At least he got to fuck his daughter

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>>133184352
Yup it's gonna get fun in here the tighter this chain gets >>133185300

52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
US Code
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§30121.
Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A)
a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B)
a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C)
an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2)
a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
(b) “Foreign national” definedAs used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—
(1)
a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22, except that the term “foreign national” shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2)
an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 1101(a)(22) of title 8) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.
(Pub. L. 92–225, title III, §319, formerly §324, as added Pub. L. 94–283, title I, §112(2), May 11, 1976, 90 Stat. 493; renumbered §319, Pub. L. 96–187, title I, §105(5), Jan. 8, 1980, 93 Stat. 1354; amended Pub. L. 107–155, title III, §§303, 317, Mar. 27, 2002, 116 Stat. 96, 109.)

>>133186922
>Go ahead and prove them wrong.
Well if it's a private citizen of Russia it's still illegal. Doesn't have to be a foreign government, just a foreigner.

Between the accent, the name, and the email where Don Jr. was directly told he would be dealing with a foreigner working for the Kremlin, I think that shouldn't be too difficult to prove.

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Wow, it's fucking nothing.

https://jonathanturley.org/2017/07/10/was-the-meeting-between-donald-trump-jr-and-the-russian-lawyer-really-treason-or-the-smoking-gun-of-collusion/

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>>133181844
Daily Caller

"NYT Russian Lawyer Story Proves Dems Helped Create Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory"
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/10/nyt-russian-lawyer-story-proves-dems-helped-create-trump-russia-conspiracy-theory/

>>133186952

U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 37 › § 793

>>133181844

Even the headline is fake.

>Don Jr receives email saying:
>>"We got Clinton oppo search!"
>>"Oh yeh Vlad likes yo daddy!"

>Meeting happens
>There is no viable useful Clinton oppo research to be had

NYT looks at this and concludes that a scam artist's claim of "Vlad loves yo daddy" is evidence of collusion

WTF dudes you're not even trying. If I'm a scam artist and I send an email to someone making some wild claim, that doesn't mean the person I send the email to is legally implicated in "knowing" this "link" that I am claiming as part of my scam that has no substance to it in the first place.

We're at levels of self-deception and abstraction that shouldn't even exist

>>133187237
Your first paragraph and second totally conflict. Like you said, the point of this law is to stop foreigners from funding American political campaigns. There's no way Trump was going to sell this opposition research, who the fuck would he sell it to, himself?

The law is not intended to prevent foreigners from helping American political campaigns, but funding them. For example, Trump received help from Mexico during his campaign, because they invited him to speak there which made him look good. Did Trump violate the law by receiving this help? No because that would be ridiculous. To give another example, Nigel Farage helped Trump during his campaign by speaking at his rallies. This was a foreign national directly helping Trump's campaign. Did this violate the law? No, why would it?

Russia can help Trump's campaign all they want, there's nothing actually illegal about that. In fact to give a third example, a group of Australians came to help Bernie Sanders campaign speak door to door. Did this violate the law? No it did not.

You may consider it morally wrong for Trump to receive non-monetary assistance from Russia but it is not illegal nor should it be.

>>133181844
>Nothing burger yet again

Fuck u OP for making read this clickbait.

>>133187918
WOW!!! You mean the Clinton Foundation?

>>133181844
CIA can fabricate origin of information sent online to any proxy they want

>>133187511
Still not an argument

>>133187005
You mean a Christian American.

>>133187095

She was hired by the dnc.

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>>133187480
Canada won the right to buttfuck their housepets and your leader is a sodomite and the bastard son of Fidel Castro, maybe you should take the plank out of your own eye cucko

>>133187668
They did it with Gore until Obama came in, then they spent a year laying around in parks to protest Obama being a globalist, until the globalists co-opted the tea party and the idiot box told them Obama is really on their side and that central bank-hating libertarians are the enemy.

>>133187216

Yup.

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>>133187952
>Unless there is more (and this is worthy of investigation), I see nothing close to treason or a crime in this account. That obviously does not fit with the breathless accounts given the story but the criminal code is not a code of political etiquette.

Comrades you should all brush up on your US law


a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
(b) “Foreign national” definedAs used in this section, the term “foreign national” means—
(1)
a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section 611(b) of title 22, except that the term “foreign national” shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States; or
(2)
an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 1101(a)(22) of title 8) and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.
(Pub. L. 92–225, title III, §319, formerly §324, as added Pub. L. 94–283, title I, §112(2), May 11, 1976, 90 Stat. 493; renumbered §319, Pub. L. 96–187, title I, §105(5), Jan. 8, 1980, 93 Stat. 1354; amended Pub. L. 107–155, title III, §§303, 317, Mar. 27, 2002, 116 Stat. 96, 109.)

>The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone

((They're)) always involved, aren't ((they))?

>>133187960
>Daily Caller

lol.jpg

>>133187338
>So you're saying Comey
No, no I'm not. The fuck campaign did Comey interfere in with foreigners?

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>>133187960
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>133187432

Yes.

>>133188171
Umm first this story reeks of Fake News and second read the story they never took money

>>133187673

This.

Fuck liberals, I hate the scum too but when will the americucks realize this is about their country? How can they claim to be patriotic when their freedom is quite openly undermined by russia and the Trump clan? When their government is becoming a corporate?

I don't get them, it would be much more patriotic to stand up against Trump. That still doesn't mean that you'd get a Hillary. GOP would still be in charge.

>>133187793
So, I missed something...this means the DNC, Jeb, and possibly McCabe are also going to prison, right?

>>133183041
>pizzagate
>all evidence hinges on Podestas leaked emails which are real

vs

>muh russia
>all evidence hinges on DNC leaks being conducted by Russia, which has been proven false

>>133187673
Either you are a troll or you have more gold medals for mental gymnastics than Phelps has for swimming

>>133187781
>You would still have to prove that the Russian was going to donate the intel to Don.
No, no I would not. The Russian doesn't have to do anything but imply they'll contribute something of value.

>Obviously I'm the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent... went nowhere but had to listen.
Don already admitted to his purpose for arranging the meeting

>>133185206
Uh, did you forget what team you're on, friend? I thought you nazbols hated drumpf

>>133188313
Read it derplord, doesn't have to be money, could be services

>>133188120

Honestly I'll hate him forever just because Citizens United went through during his tenure. He made some fake ass wishy-washy statement about it, but did nothing to combat it.

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>>133188210
This shit is just more fucking fake news

>>133187785
Why is the image of Unreal Gold when this sound bite was from Unreal Tournament? Fucking fake news

>>133188380
United States of America became a corporation in 1895. Look it up.

>>133188171

And this isn't even the Campaign Finance Laws he broke as well.

Don't think they're a big deal? Ask Kushner's dad about his trip up the river.

>>133188451
If Donald Trump had sex with a foreigner during the campaign would he be arrested for receiving something of "value"?

>>133187929
According to the same NYT article, the lawyer and Goldstone both said Kremlin had nothing to do with this.
Gotta read past the headline.
'3 ppl familiar with the way the email thinks'...

Fuck off with this fag shit! Also Impeachment is nearly impossible to pull off fags so lose the wet dream!!

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>>133188500
You guys are pretty cute if you think a little amendment to a broad law is going to take down the most powerful man in the world. Too funny

>>133187963
>U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 37 › § 793
Not violated. All relevant documents were retained by Comey until they could be properly returned to the government and Comey acquired them while it was still legal for him to do so.

The unclassified memo is not a relevant document to this statute and was the only one he did not personally retain.

>>133184660
>Well it's punishable with several years in federal prison
Oh okay, but the Russian dossier on Trump that the Democrats paid for is totally legal then right? Literally
>it's only okay when liberals do it

>>133184576
zero hedge lol

>>133188313
>Nigga just use dis here crowbar to break up dis here door, imma go inside get ma loot
>Sure why not, as long as I'm not taking anything myself I'm committing no crime

Thats how stupid you are.

It's illegal for the Russians to try to influence the US election. Jr openly admits to helping them do that. If you help someone commit a crime: surprise! You're a criminal.

>>133188206

Trump's campaign. You are 12 steps behind. You don't see that this is a trap. Tick tock.

>>133188616
If they were giving it in exchange for anything else yeah

>>133181844
https://beyer.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=624

>Jared Kushner Must Resign. If He Will Not, He Should Be Fired.

US House of Representative press release. It is crashing down.

>>133188754
It is not illegal for the Russians to try to influence the US election.

>>133188721

>The unclassified memo is not a relevant document to this statute and was the only one he did not personally retain.

Are you his secretary?

>>133187966
>There's no way Trump was going to sell this opposition research
He'd sell the Vote for Trump pins?

>>133188386

Yes. Comey, too.

>>133188380

It's true. Dumping Trump would help the GOP in the coming slaughter that is the Mid-Terms.

But remember, self-reflection or admitting error doesn't exist in the Conservative mind or they would come up with new ideas from time-to-time.

>>133188804
If Trump paid a German prostitute $50 to sleep with him would he have committed a campaign finance crime?

>>133188754
Read it again until your cognitive dissonance wears off.

>>133188299
Care to share with the class?

>>133188754
kek, so i guess the fbi will be heading over to russia to arrest russians?

>>133188609

Um no, sweetie. Tick fucking tock.

>>133188599
We have those retards over here too which claim something similar. This time however, the Trump clan is actually trying it for real.

It's no fight against liberals, that's just how Trump sold it to the americucks. It's about Trump getting incredibly rich on your expense.

Wake up, fight Trump and get to elect a real republican patriot and you can maybe become leader of the free world again.

>>133188887
>>133188380

At least you kids are on the bargaining stage now.

Progress!

>>133188808
>a democratic congressman puts out a press release attacking Trump people

This has literally happened 50 times a day every day since June 2015.

>>133188391
You mean the guy who went to the pizza place with a gun and turns out the place didn't even have a basement?

>>133188313

You do realize if you buy a bag of baking soda thinking it's cocaine you're still going to jail, right?

>>133188707
Lol you went straight from denying to accepting vladmirs dong fucking US democracy through trumps anus. Thanks for showing you don't actually care

>>133187297
And the scumball has the balls to call out POTUS on Twitter. Not long now, it's going to be the emotional equivalent of an orgasm watching that evil fucking pile of shit worm get sentenced along with the rest.

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>>133184197
>Tick fucking tock.
>Tick tock.

>>133184576
>Tick tock, sweeties. Tick fucking tock.

>>133185642
>Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133186326
>Tick tock, sharia. Tick fucking tock.

>>133186458
>Tick tock.

>>133187005
>Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133187338
>Tick tock, sweetie.

>>133188784
>Tick tock.

>>133188941
>Tick fucking tock.

>25 posts by this id
I'm trying to say this as nicely as possible: you talk like someone who's going to be dead in 6 months when you're faced to confront your fantasies. You should seek help, honestly


>>133186675
>Where did "tick tock" come from and why is everyone saying it now?
it's just this one psychopath, who adopted it from a twitter meme about breaking news about to happen

>>133188721

He personally retained much, much more than that. Tick fucking tock.

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>>133181844
It's really over, isn't it guys. Im fighting to hold back tears rn

>>133188809
It is illegal for foreign nationals to spend money trying to influence a US election. Read the statute posted by UN flag fag

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>>133188380

>>133188887
>>133188971
Bruh, that's clearly still denial.

>"Republicans will get slaughtered in 2016 because of Trump!"
>*republicans win both houses + presidency*
>"Republicans will get slaughtered in 2018 because of Trump!"

>>133188616
>If Donald Trump had sex with a foreigner during the campaign would he be arrested for receiving something of "value"?
Depends on whether or not the having of sex related to the campaign.

And even then I don't think so since prostitution laws get weird on whether or not sex can be considered to have value because it's illegal to sell in the first place.

Assuming he did it in one of Nevada's legal brothels and he did it to somehow promote his campaign, yes.

>>133188960
I'm not a Republican though, why would I want President Pence?

>Drumpf is done this time!!
Fox isn't even talking about it. You think a major news network would not be talking about this if it was going to have real ramifications? You think Fox doesn't have expert lawyers to tell them if this is actually a crime?

>>133188744

It was widely reported. See the hill. I only link excellent sources. I don't give revenue to demons. Tick fucking tock.

>>133189127

Baby steps, anon.

>>133188386
Yes, and Holder and on up the line. I was just wondering if these clowns spouting these laws and arguments realize that the DNC is being exposed.
Trump's team was sitting, waiting for this story to pop. They will feed more and more to get Fusion GPS out there some more. All of the DNC goes down.

>>133188867

why do people say this? what does this have to do with trump jr? serious question i don't get it

>>133189102
You're fucking retarded. It is not illegal for Russia to spend money influencing our election. It is illegal for them to GIVE money to a political campaign. Many countries spent money to try to influence our election just like we spend money to influence theirs.

>>133189118
Hahahaha, americuck losing his freedom and still laughing about it. Well I can't complain, my great country is leader of the free world now.

>Trump's son met with some lawyer who turned out to be full of shit
Wow... this is it bros... this is the end of Grump's campaign for sure.

>>133188924
Russian spies in the US typically have diplomatic immunity, so they can only be expelled. Which I believe Obama already did..

Jr is a US citizen, so he is subject to US laws

This is very very basic stuff

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>>133189000
Your country's biggest attractions, literally, are your drugs and your whores. Where are all of you disgusting trogs getting the idea that your opinions matter to anyone in an actual superpower?

Derplords need to learn that screaming "tick tock" all day isn't intimidating

>>133186839
He released a single memo to the media that contained zero classified material. He gave Mueller a total of 7 memos and 4 had the lowest level of classification. You trumpfags are retarded

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>>133183041
THIS is what Russian operative posting is actually looks like...

Well done, Mole person

>>133188732
>Oh okay, but the Russian dossier on Trump that the Democrats paid for is totally legal then right? Literally
No, that shit's illegal as fuck...for everyone that knew a foreigner was making it, ie the Washington based firm, Fusion GPS, and the ex spy himself.

You have to have direct knowledge of or reasonable suspicion that you are receiving shit from a foreigner.

>>133189272

It'll become clear to you in a few weeks.

>>133189143
>And even then I don't think so since prostitution laws get weird on whether or not sex can be considered to have value because it's illegal to sell in the first place.
And yet opposition research does have value? Yet you are saying it is illegal to sell that as well. hmmmm rly makes me think,

>>133188917

Go over his testimonies on cspan. I don't educate shills. He is caught dead to rights.

>>133188721
Zero. Proof. Of. Anything. You. Just. Said.

>>133189347
I'm American but I live in NL. I don't care enough to change my flag setting

>>133186039
Get used to disappointment

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>>133188754
Guess what there is still no collusion President Trump will be your lawyer for 4 years and probably 8 years. This story is fake news the media is getting played again. If you morons truly hate Trump the come with an economic plan immigration plan and let go of Obamacare. Stop with the #Resistance and telling people that windmills are the future. Also people are dying on Obamacare because they can't pay the premiums

>>133189056
>He personally retained much, much more than that.
Legal

>>133189444
Expats deserve death

>>133189395

why? Big ups never go to jail in the US or any country. This trump thing is a big nothing, clearly no crime was committed, no exchange was made and even if there was exchange it's a long shot about whether it's a crime or not. What information does russia even have on clinton? It was all leaked through wikileaks by that time anyways, it makes no sense.

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>>133181844
>>133182179
what a (((scoop)))

>>133189289
>Can non-US citizens contribute?

>Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions ((((or expenditures)))) in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute. For additional information, consult our "Foreign Nationals" brochure.

https://transition.fec.gov/ans/answers_general.shtml

Sorry mate, your boy is toast

>>133188732
So, McCain flying (McMuffin) overseas to pick up his autographed copy of the dossier...guess he knew.

>>133189488
Kek gonna go enjoy my legal weed now faggot

>>133189292
Hate speech is considered free speech in the USA.
The Supreme Court ruled on it.

>>133189318
it's not illegal for jr to 'influence' the election. if you read half of the nonsense being spewed by the msm and then cross referenced that with the law you would realise that this is just one more failed attempt at proving the 'russian connection' , another nothingburger as van jones called it.

>>133189602

>conflating finance with words

You are literally going to get laughed out of court if you try this angle.

>>133189292

Angela Merkel. lol try again faggot. Enjoy that Muslim cock.

>>133189407
>Yet you are saying it is illegal to sell that as well.
It's not illegal to sell opposition research. There's a fairly large legal industry around it.

It's illegal to provide a campaign with things of value for foreigners and for the campaigns to cooperate in that arrangement.

>>133188808
'Must' 'Should'...yeah, they can't even get Pagliano back in and he's in contempt...
They can't even get Fusion to come talk to them.
Or CrowdStrike.
Or Steele.

So, who gives a flying fuck what a congressman says?

>>133189292
>Germany
>Free world
>Would be thrown in jail just for knowing the 4chan url

kek

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Y'all need to reconize that this Russia thing's just a big nothingburger.

>>133189386
>You have to have direct knowledge of or reasonable suspicion that you are receiving shit from a foreigner.
Way to invent new laws off the top of your head Chris Matthews.

>>133182440

I don't understand your post

>>133183476
maybe YOU have to go back... to hell...

faggot