Friendly reminder

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>>133178429
Red states aren't poor. (And the ones that are have tons of minorities)

>>133178429
What is a conurbation?
What is a central business district?
What is economy of scale?

>>133178429
>implying all socialist countries aren't poorer
Socialism is the Democrat's end game.

>>133178429
If Democrats aren't racist why are all the major cities a giant fucking hive of gangs, ghettos, and segregation?

>>133178429
The poorest red states are the ones with all the niggers.

Really makes you think

>>133178429
Elephants are fat

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>>133178429
The poor value frugality and common sense fiscal policy more than the rich and out of touch idiots that make up the lib population.

It turns out that when you don't have mommy and daddy's trust fund to fall back on you don't enjoy the idea of paying for spics jumping the border and niggers 7th kids.

>>133178429
Illinois, that is all

>>133178429
red state are usually in the south or sparsely populated; both of which are bad for liberal business

What's the point of making $100k on the coast when a "poor" midwesterner has the same quality of living at $50k?

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>>133178429

>market economics builds wealth
>socialists watch it and get jealous
>they start stealing from the productive
>productive people move away
>skyscrapers remain in socialist hellhole
>productive people start from scratch

LOL WHY SO POOR

California has the highest poverty rate

http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

>>133179660
>unarchived clickbaiters
https://archive.is/XqfyD

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>>133178429

>Their bluefag state doesn't even have its own power grid

>>133179813
Debt is irrelevant and just a buzzword

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>>133179813
>Conservashits
> fiscal

Muh sides

>>133178429
literally they are the states with the most blacks and other minorities. the poor ones that this comment is accurate for at least

turns out people only vote for "multiculturalism" when they live in 85%+ white areas

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because more niggers infest those states and because niggers make less money than white people and have larger hoards of mud children, they bring down the average. whereas montana and alaska are exactly the opposite and fancy that, they have a very low number of niggers.

>>133178429
do you post this all the time just to get btfo?

>>133180095
>Obama
>35%
jesus christ my fucking sides

>>133180095
>189% of 1 trillion vs 35% of ten trillion
>Obama's is 2009-2011

>>133179947
Tell that to your bank

>>133180305
>>133180361
Don't forget , Obama had to stop the massive bleeding from the economic bubble crash of 08 and fuck ups from precious fucking retard president , so he gets a pass

>>133178429
California literally steals money from the rest of America by upping their property tax. You can write off state property tax on federal taxes. THIEVES.

>>133179505
How exactly is economic freedom determined here? I see Sweden and Germany are blue on the map despite being fairly "socialist", so what exactly is the determining factor for economic freedom? It apparently doesn't have anything at all to do with business regulations or social programs.

>>133180095
nope your main point here is not right. the difference is that this wasn't "bad" debt. this wasn't debt that we had no manner of paying back,

he actually cut entitlement programs too as soon as he got into office.

because of reagans programs and everything he did, we literally won the fucking cold war and had an extended period of economic prosperity.

debt only becomes a problem when you get into a situation where its too big for you to pay back

also the only reason clinton is so low is because a republican house and senate passed a budget which resulted in the only surplus our country has seen in decades.

and as far as obama increasing the debt by only 35%, it's simply untrue. it's literally a fake statistic. anyone can google for themselves and see that he literally doubled it over his tenure (something like 9 trillion to 19 trillion if i'm not mistaken, give or take a trillion). legit fake fake fake fake.

>>133180095
>Obama
>35%
NAAAAAAAAAAH

>>133180539
Are you 16? The economic bubble was caused by shitty banking regulations and bassackwards housing institutions propped up and started by Democrats under Bill Clinton's presidency. Look it up.

>>133179105
Exactamundo.

>>133180739

And democrats controlled both chambers of congress during Rayguns administration so by your logic , economic prosperity in the 80s and early 90s is due to democrats , shit head lmao

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>>133178429
If liberal education policies are so good, then why are blue states so stupid?

>>133178429
Red counties:
>own house
>own land
>own vehicles
>own guns
>can provide for self in emergency

blue counties:
>rent appartmens/welfare
>take bus/pay cab
>lease newest phone for 2 years
>depends on government in emergency

the hourly pay may be higher but very few people in blue area's actually own anything worth having

>>133180977
B-but The Big Short

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>>133178429

If liberal policies are so great, why are the niggers and useless meme degree white retards who keep voting Democrat always broke and saying they need more?

>>133181039
I literally believe you're actually 16.

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>>133181328

>people in red counties usually own their own land and property
>less people
>blue counties and cities are usually full of homeless and wage cucks spending all their money
>tons of people in cities moving economy, generating economy and paying taxes constantly
>not many people in red counties because it's mostly rural or country
>not many people there buying a lot of shit constantly

HOW COME HIVE CITIES OF WAGESLAVE LIBERALS CONSTANTLY BUYING AND SELLING THINGS MAKE MORE MONEY THAN COUNTIES WITH FARMS AND COUNTRY HOUSES?!?! HURR A DURR A DURR

^This is you and you are retarded, OP.

>>133180095
>only counting 2y 3m of an 8 yr term

>>133181050
Uhhh sweetie, all the blue states in this picture have IQs over 100. Except California probably because of all their Mexican slaves

>>133181959
>md, ri and il

fuck off

>>133178429
cant afford to throw their money away on stupid shit

>>133182056
also nm and hi

>>133178745
>per capita gdp
>north dakota
>like 1000 people live there
>100 of them work for oil companies making $400k/year
>the other 900 work at mcdonalds and walmart making $15k/year
>guys we have a $54k gdp per capita even though 90% of the workers here make 1/4 of that per year we are so rich!

Why are Republicans so dumb?

>>133178850
>Japan
>Germany
>poor

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Sorry sweetie, Republican states are richer

>>133178429
Nice liberal state disparity there faggot.

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>>133182183
Sorry sweetie, Republicans are smarter

Yes, even when you exclude non-whites

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Sorry sweetie, it's the niggers on welfare that bring a few red states down

>>133178429
Probably because we spend all of our money to keep the blue states afloat with government subsidies that red states contributed.

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Sorry sweetie, Republicans are richer

>>133180095
lol now put that shit in dollar amounts.

Fucking obama increased the national debt by 6 trillion, while reagan increased it by 2 trillion.

>>133182643
Ok so how can you argue this to the normies

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Really fires those neuronal receptors...

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>>133178429
If Demoshit criminal economics are so great, why are they financially insolvent?

>>133182831
"Sorry sweetie, it's the [Democratic counties] on welfare that bring a few red states down"

>>133182523
Rekt hard.

SO
MANY
FUCKING

SLIDE THREADS
FUUUCK

WHAT IS GOING ON
WAS SOMETHING BIG UNCOVERED
SO THAT THESE FUCKING KIKES
COVER EVERYTHING UP WITH MEANINGLESS SHIT

>>133178429
jews

>>133182643
I don't believe for a second that New York or California are that low.

>>133182907
kek. higher average wages yet permanently in debt.

>>133182308
>Japan
>Socialist
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>133182707
na its the niggers the south states are just loaded up with em.

>>133181529
I'm pretty sure you are correct

>>133178745
If you manipulate any stats enough, you'll eventually end up with stupid shit a conservative will agree with.

>>133178429
There are also a good amount of poor blue states.

Also, these red states do not have the lowest poverty levels, except mississippi and alabama.

The big common denominator is


niggers

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>republicans build a great state
>democrats flood it with spics
>now the state is in constant decline

>>133183417
Move them niggers North.
Movie them niggers North.

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Obligatory.

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>>133183614
Democrats are x2.2 as likely to be on welfare

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>>133178429
because they look at the wrong numbers.

>>133178745
Delete this.

Define dirt poor

Some guy may make $50k in San Francisco, but that will still barely buy him a dumpy apartment and is no better off than someone earning $25k in Tennessee. Yet the guy is SF is "wealthier" according to the stats.

>>133183830
Nigga, you realize this is about food stamps? Are you fucking retarded?

>>133178429

nigs

>>133183936
Yeah, but Tennessee. Serve in Heaven or reign in Hell.

>>133182997
Enjoy jail Hans

>>133183614
>Get fucking humiliated
>HUUU HUUU HUUUUUU M-MANIPULATED STATS HUUU HUUUU

Go back to reading Lysenko, criminal. You don't believe in truth, you're just trying to stack more ROAST BEEF on Stalin's plate. Cuck.

>>133184048
>"richer"
>twice as likely to need food stamps
does not compute

>>133178745
>adjusted for cost of living
No, anon. Your flyover states are still poor, even if they eat dirt and live in trailer parks.

CONSERVASHITS ARE GETTING REKT AF ITT LMAO

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>>133178745
Here's the real chart

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>>133184109
tell that to all the homeless.

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>>133184313
It was real in your mind.

>>133184345
lol, that's not even it! My mistake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita#Current

>>133178429
How adorable.

OP has never left the house before.

> if chemo is so helpful for cancer patients, then why are so many of them losing their hair?

>>133184048
>Implying food stamps isn't welfare

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>>133184345
>GDP (includes debt)
This is the real chart of actual production

>>133178429
If liberal economic policies are so great why have the 3 liberal states whom tried to pass universal healthcare not follow through?

What's your zip code OP?

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I know I'm not the first in this thread to make this point, but most of the country, white liberals in particular, many of whom have rarely met a black person except for the tokens in their university classrooms, simply have no idea what it's like on a daily basis or how our demographics drive down our macro-stats. The public sector collapsed a long time ago and rather than rebuild we decided it wasn't worth the effort.

You'd never guess that a state like Mississippi had one of the finest public school systems in the nation before the 1960's.

>>133178429
Because the red states aren't waterfront property with a killer view and beach access which attracts the wealthy.

The red states land are the leftovers that the workers get. The workers that make it possible for the wealthy to have the shit they love so much.

Also: The more successful Californians and Jew Yorkers(blue states) who can afford to are moving to Texas (Red state) to ride on the coattails of successful state government policy, fiscal management and smart jobs.

So, oh well with your non-argument. Saged.

>>133178429
It's not just because niggers live there. White southerners are the niggers of white people, they were made for each other.

>>133182523

>even when you exclude non-whites.

even when you exclude non-whites.

>even when you exclude non-whites.

even when you exclude non-whites.


my fucking sides.

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>>133184741
Only industrial production counts? I swear to god u retards need to learn what computers are. 70% of the economy is services. You can make millions of dollars a year in the tech sector. Indiana lol. Didn't they just pay Carrier $7 million to build a factory in Mexico? Fucking right wing retards

>>133185071
Did they ever teach you what's a wage? >>133182711

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>>133185224
Yeah it's what goes up under Democrats and crashes under Republicans

don't forget red states couldn't exist without blue states.

http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/blue-state-voters-in-general-subsidize-southern-red-state-voters-not-the-other-way-around

>>133184345
>GDP
>New Jersey's Campbell's soup vs. Texas's semiconductor which made it possible to have an ARPANET to post this shit on in the first place.

Real good valuation of actual contribution there. Merit based natsoc when?

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>>133185403
yep

>>133184109
What exactly is wrong with Tennessee? I ask this as someone who has lived there and has moved around the country.

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>>133185446
>>133185400
>changes topic because he got btfo

>>133184740
Jesus Christ, read a book.

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what are you babbling about?

Texas is rich as fuck!!
CA in massive debt
NY in debt up to ass

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>>133185224
how retarded do u have to be post this chart? >>133184741

You don't think 70% of the economy counts?

You think Indiana is the #1 economic powerhouse of the USA?

>>133178429 for op question, best legitimate answer is wealth is best generated by cooperation and willingness of exchange. more people more chance of exchange and improvement of worth.

lexicon of a accountant/economist:
wealth: current total value of assets.
asset: a thing owned or owed (legal or illegal).
income: wealth gained in respect to time.

more people, more chance of an exchange, more money. (morally or immorally)

reference map of wealth by county and population density. adjust for welfare (black belt and socialist cities and population centers like Detroit) as it often destroys wealth (taxes).

use bell curve for determinant of anomaly.

>>133178753
what is poor?

>>133185583
Did you even read the text? Do you know what per capita means? Do you know that debt is part of the GDP calculations?

>>133185510
If you don't like doing anything outside of your house, TN is amazing.

>>133183406
>universal healthcare
>like 25% of the population is old and living on a government pension
>literally millions of working age men and women who never leave their houses or have jobs living on welfare; Hikikomori
>all of the other standard 'socialist' policies like low-income housing, welfare, food assistance, single mother stipends, etc...

>not socialist

>>133185519
Nice projection kid. You're the one who changed. You got btfo on your retard chart >>133184741
>>133185071
and then changed the topic >>133185224

I replied to your topic change and you got btfo again then cried like a bitch.

I just btfo you again >>133185583

>>133184854

This is why I asked the OP for their zip code. Liberals lack exposure to blacks and cling to the meme that blacks are just like us, they just have a different paint job.

Coming from the South, I love liberal areas/states. They are far whiter and safer than black areas. Visit Vermont or New Hampshire and you're literally in American paradise.

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this meme again.

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>>133185446
I'm a very moderate Democrat from a red state and even I know that red states, particularly the deep south, receive more in redistribution from the federal government than they pay is because of our demographics. Where is all of that redistributed money going to? It's going to "public assistance" for "you know who."

And even if that wasn't the case, isn't that how it should be? From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs? Isn't that what lefties believe?

>>133185510
Hostile right wing terrorism and Christian indoctrination. Tennessee people also vote against their interests

>>133185669
You don't even know what this chart measures do you? >>133184741

You don't even understand your own charts. That's how fucking retarded you are.

Industrial production. So if I make $500,000 in the tech sector, that doesn't count? You fucking moron.

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>>133185712
I am fucking killing you here, dumb leaf

I already proved that:
>Republicans are smarter
>Republicans make more money
>Democrats are more often on welfare
>Red states receive more federal money because Democratic counties filled with niggers are overwhelmingly on welfare
>Republican states are more productive

And now just to spite on you, I am going to prove that Republican presidents objectively outperform Democratic presidents

#rekt

>>133184224
It's obvious you're being retarded on purpose. Are you working for David Brick and trying to make Republicans look like idiots?

>>133182183
North Dakota's one of the top 5 states for MEDIAN income.

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>>133185822
West Virginia is one of the whitest states in the union. Wtf are you talking about? When will white people stop blaming their fuckups on the black man?

>>133185682
The fuck is that supposed to mean? Have you ever heard of the Great Smoky Mountains? There are shitloads of things to do outside here.

>>133185889
"Proved"
Hahahahhahahahhahahahahahah

>>133185895
See: >>133182643

>>133179813
Because money is borrowed into existence.
If nobody had any debt, nobody would have any money (apart from the relatively small amount of physical cash).
So if people want money, someone has to have debt. It can either be individuals, corporations or governments.

Individuals have a lot more debt than they used to, but individuals' ability to service debt is very limited, many people are considered bad credit risks, and requiring individuals to take on large amount of debt is arguably very bad policy from a social perspective.

Corporations have a large ability to take on debt, but only when they (and the lenders) are confident that they can make a profit on the money they borrow. That's not a problem in the boom times, but at this stage of the economic cycle it is. Since the GFC, business confidence has been low because everyone's been reluctant to spend money because of fear of debt.

That leaves governments. The Federal government has unlimited capacity to borrow unless it idiotically handicaps itself with a debt ceiling. Contrary to popular belief there's zero risk of hyperinflation, though they do still have to keep an eye on the inflationary effects of their spending.

>>133185974
Walking outside is awesome

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>>133185889
Lol you got btfo so hard. You know how I know? You have to keep jumping from topic to topic and spamming graphs you don't understand because you can't argue the facts.

This one u just posted even admits that the economy does better under Democrats. Inflation? Lol Obama had the lowest inflation in decades.

>>133185977
See and weep: >>133183830
>>133182711
>>133182523

>>133185831
The only one indoctrinated here is you. There are crazies in every part of the country, we have the occasional sovereign citizen and you have gangs and anarchists.

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>>133185889
Thanks for admitting the economy does better under Democrats

Lol I love it when u retards btfo yourselves.

>>133185769
the amount of destruction in that picture is too strong
banned for sure

>>133185583
>Serves me coffee for a living
>Calls it "hard work"
>Is salty they don't have a fully furnished two story house with a flatscreen in every room above a garage with Benzes and Beamers in it.


This adds up. I see this attitude sometimes. I can't make sense of it. The entitlement is audacious.

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>>133186096
>dumb leaf can't read a basic chart

>>133185732
Agreed!!! In college I knew a few guys from out of state and after enough Seagram's they'd admit how they simply didn't know what it was like living around so many blacks, how they destroy everything they touch.

The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.' We agree that west Virginia has problems, but contrary to some I don't consider W. Virginia or Kentucky to be part of the south. They may be hillbillies and rednecks but they're yankee hillbillies and rednecks.

>>133184838
because all the states need to be brought under sauron's ring

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>>133183830
When Republicans crash the economy, they throw millions on welfare. Democrats and Republicans.

Republicans crash the economy. Democrats thrive the economy. >>133186148

>Obamaleaf shows up

ahahaha

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>>133186148
Yup, wonderful economy, that's why they lost

>>133185965
The second half of >>133186237 was meant for you.

BECAUSE OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF DINDU NUFFIN IN THOSE STATES


republicans are politicians, not magicians, they cant turn shit into gold

Love you Obamaleaf

You my homie

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>>133186279
Bill Clinton's modernization act voted by Democrats crashed the economy, sweetie

>>133186056
And climbing, rafting, tubing, swimming, biking, backpacking, camping, hunting, fishing...wait a minute, I'm probably talking to a 5' 2" 300lb manlet in his early 20s, nevermind.

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>>133186203
You keep proving my point. You keep getting btfo so you have to keep spamming fake news charts. Then when I debunk them, you can't even defend them. Watch this. I'm going to debunk your chart, then you won't defend it or back it up with facts, you'll jump to the next topic because u got btfo.

Watch

Your chart says Obama median income down from $55k to $53k. But Obama median income went up not down. >>133185400


Why are you posting fake news?

What now bitch?

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>>133186289
You know you're losing badly when you post charts of Bush crashing the economy in 2008 and u think that somehow hurts Obama. Funny how u retards never show Obama's actual record from 2009 to 2017. Because you know he has a good record.

>>133185536
>Welfare: statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need.
Are you going to actually try to argue that foodstamps aren't welfare? Or are you just going to continue sperging?

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>>133178745


Fuckin hell that sucks. :(

At least I can go months without seeing a minority of any kind. Unless you count frenchmen

-t.f. maine

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>>133186487
Republican individuals are the one producing, Democratic individuals are on average on welfare / earning half of what a Republican makes, that's why you cling to state-wide numbers ignoring that red states are filled with demnigs

how about this?
lets lower government spending 99%
and reduce controls 99%
:)
then each state wont be bothered so much by the federal government

>>133186618
truth!!

democrats are looters and when u loot you hurt everyone because production goes down

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>>133180095
>I'm under 30 with a strong opinion on politics, yet known virtually nothing aside for the OccupyDemocrat memes I see on Fadbook
>>133180305
Fucking this.

>>133186487
Your image only addressed one point of the graphic he posted and it didn't even refute it. If his graphic was made before December 29, 2015 his stats may be correct.

>>133183417
Fuckin Germans!

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>>133186370
You get your charts from ZeroBrain. No wonder you're so retarded. I mean that chart wouldn't even pass in a kindergarten class.

Bush dindu nuffin? Lol leave it to GOP shills to dindu an entire 8 year GOP presidency.

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False

>>133185889
Fucking this. The dems use tricks to make the only the measured numbers look better.

For example, it's not an achievement if you created $100k in new jobs if you devauled the dollar 200k to do it. It's the kind of lie that only works on baby boomers anymore.

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>>133186586
I already posted a chart comparing the objective performance of all president, see >>133185889

Obama is by far the worst by any metric, he's the best with inflation and debt (I'll give you that)

>>133178429
Red states arent fuckin broke either.

>>133182183

Cuz Jew York doesn't have poor niggers and billionaires.

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>>133186745
>being so BTFO that you start talking about something unrelated
LOL

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>>133186618

You just proved my point. It's over. You can't even defend your own bullshit. I predicted exactly what you would do. I debunked your chart, and instead of you defending it, you moved on to your next bullshit. I massacred you so many times, all u can do is jump to the next thing because you keep getting btfo. It's over bro. >>133186487

>>133178429
Niggers, plus red states are less likely to steal everyone else's money

>>133186753
totally true
obama debt 13T
all other presidents in history combined 8T
and thats not counting obamacare

>>133186721
I can go 1 by 1 and debunk his fake news. He won't even defend or backup his own bullshit. And his graphic is not correct because $55k wasn't even Obama's starting point.

>>133178429
>Have Fast Internet
>Have 5 flat screen TVs
>Have car
>Have nice house
>Have all the food I can eat
>Have good heath care
>Don't buy shit to pop up the GNP
>I be poor.

>>133186930
>muh Bush
Bush didn't cause the economic crisis in 2008. The cost of the Iraq war probably exacerbated the issue and he didn't really do anything to fix it, but the issues arose from Clinton's administration.

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>>133186930
I am killing you here, just to recap:

>Republicans are smarter
>Republicans make more money
>Democrats are more often on welfare
>Red states receive more federal money because Democratic counties filled with niggers are overwhelmingly on welfare
>Republican states are more productive
>Obama is objectively the worst president in the past 40 years

>>133186096
He had the lowest inflation in decades and yet still couldn't achieve 3% growth

To the hungry man, the simplest and most wholesome food is delicious and satisfying. To the debauched wastrel, the simple and nutritious are offensive because they no longer stimulate him, and so he swears he needs more than is necessary. The Red states, in the main, understand this truth, whereas the Blue states do not. Being better men and women, and not suffering from the corruption of their desires, they are happy and content with less. Thus they do not strive for an illusory dream forever disappearing just over the horizon.

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>>133186753
Based Barack Hussein Obama is one of the most popular presidents since WWII, he created 16 million jobs, cut unemployment in half to 4.6%, cut the budget deficit by 2/3 and saved America from a 2nd Great Republican Depression. >>133186586

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>>133186487

>>133186487
>The income measured in dollars earned yearly went back up to pre-recession amounts

Is that beacuse Obama did something good or because the value of the dollar went significantly down?

The blue often says "Obama raised income" but can never explain what specifically Obama did to do it.

>>133187040
So do it. All I'm seeing in this thread is graphic after graphic proving that all the claims that Republicans are poor and stupid and vote against their interests and that Republicans destroy the economy are all bullshit.

>>133181050
>California is dumber then Texas
I want Californians to apologize and pack up. Time for them to get the fuck out of my great state.

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>>133187126
But hey, here's a record that Obama has:

>the most criminals freed in a single day

Just shameful

>>133180366


My dad used to say "when you owe the bank 100k you have a problem. When you owe the bank 1 million...the bank has a problem."

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>>133186876
You're getting fucking massacred. You can't even defend your own bullshit. Just as I predicted you would do.

I summed up your entire existence.

>You keep proving my point. You keep getting btfo so you have to keep spamming fake news charts. Then when I debunk them, you can't even defend them. Watch this. I'm going to debunk your chart, then you won't defend it or back it up with facts, you'll jump to the next topic because u got btfo. >>133186487

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>>133187179
Cutting the deficit while raising taxes is like winning the special Olympics (you are still a retard)

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>>133187200
>Is that beacuse Obama did something good or because the value of the dollar went significantly down?

What are you talking about? The USD soared under Obama.

>>133185071
>An actual communist wasteland versus Russia
You're a funny guy. I live here and you and I both know there are more than a few places that keep this trashheap afloat. Sacramento, LA, Silicone Valley, SF... California is a very nice state with some VERY shitty people that abuse the hell out of it. If there were no liberals, conservatives would have this state making the entire US look lazy by comparison. Instead, you have stoners, homeless people, illegals, and entitled privileged FAGGOTS that do nothing with their lives but bitch and moan over social media.

Meanwhile Russia has been in economic recovery from your beloved Communism. OH BUT IT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM, SINCE IT FAILED. IT MUST HAVE BEEN THOSE EVIL INDIVIDUALISTS KNOWN AS CAPITALISTS. HOW DARE PEOPLE WANT BETTER LIVES FOR THEMSELVES OUTSIDE OF MANDITORY LIVING CONDITIONS! Russia is honestly very strong for surviving what it has, at the hands of the commie bastard jews.

>>133187077
of course not
government did
fed and fanny

>>133184854
i'm in one of the purple counties.

inflation was massive under obama

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>>133187417
California is booming. It is America's economic engine. Not Indiana as right wing retards would have u believe. Even retards don't believe Indiana is #1

>>133187379
If you post any more retarded graphs like this one, I'm gonna have to start calling you Obama Leaf.

>>133180977


Schumer, specifically.

The same piece of shit ranting about the rich and the housing bubble for the last 9 years. The guy who played a huge part in creating it. The nerve.

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Ancap retard btfo. He ran out of fake graphs. He Can't even defend his own bullshit.

Obama Leaf out

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>>133187295
>keeps posting cherrypicked comparisons against Bush, instead of an objective comparison of all presidents: >>133185889

I can smell your desperation

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>>133187549
I am Obama Leaf.

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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away.

If you're 100% European descent aka white and you hate filthy niggers, dirty spics, kikes, arabs, furfags, gayfags, commiefags and all other scum on the earth as much as we do, you should join the Moon Central Discord Server. Introduce yourself in #introductions and answer our questions to get unkiked!

https://discordapp.com/ - invite/ - YvZen6k (Remove the - )

1, 2, 3, 4 I declare a race war!

Sieg Heil.ww

>>133187502
California has Silicon Valley keeping it afloat. California is also sitting on hundreds of billions in unfunded liabilities. Guess what? That black ledger Governor Brown likes to take credit for is a lie.

>>133182183
>McDonalds
>Wal Mart

Know how I know you've never been out in bumblefuck?

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>>133187502
>being so desperate that you start screencapping politifact
lmao

>>133187502
>Actually citing Politifuct
You might believe what you read the first time around but I suggest considering reading into those cites. See where they get their "facts" from, consider their wording. Liberals have a bad case of "read the headline and that's enough for me" syndrome.

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>>133187610
>>keeps posting cherrypicked comparisons against Bush

Why do you GOP shills dindu the existence of this proud 2 term Republican president?
>instead of an objective comparison of all president

Also your bullshit got debunked again >>133186148

Oh look obamaleaf uses a proxy so he can shit up another thread

>>133178429
>Illinois is about to become first state to declare bankruptcy

>>133187627
Sorry, I don't believe you. Obama Leaf is smarter and shitposts way harder than you. This is low energy.

>>133180095
> 35%
Of all the increases behind him.

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Red states only have poor welfare niggers and poor welfare illegal aliens , thanks to democrat party policy . Fucking KIKES always cherry picking trash from a can !!

>>133187295
t. Obama leaf.

Democratic Congress crashed the economy. Republican Congress saved it. Cry more faggot.

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>>133187710
>>133187711

Here's ZeroBrain saying the exact same thing. It goes to show how retarded you brainwashed retards are. You whine like bitches about the source because u can't face facts.

Have you had enough getting btfo by me?

Onamaleaf is the best poster on here.

>>133179398
I live in CA and when I travel anywhere nothing is expensive to me.

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>>133178429
>poverty and crime rampant in democrat controlled areas
>"lmao checkmate gop"

>>133187735
I am not denying him, he was unlucky to have Bill Clinton's bubble burst on him, and yet put out better numbers than Obama by any metric: >>133185889

>>133187683
>. California is also sitting on hundreds of billions in unfunded liabilities.

I always love right wing retards. You're all programmed morons parroting the exact same talking points.

You always love talking about California's pension liabilities, but somehow u ignore the $300 billion in pension assets.

>As of June 30, 2014, CalPERS managed the largest public pension fund in the United States, with $300.3 billion in assets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalPERS

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>>133187379
HEY LEFT WING RETARD

My phone went out so I couldn't finish this lovely discussion we were having.

>>133187849
>total nominal gdp
>doesn't take into account debt, cost of living, per capita, etc.
Oh god, I guess India is a superpower now

Damn, I supposed you were stupid, but you take the prize

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>>133187984
>Bush is president for 8 years

Mommy Bill Clinton did it!

You GOP shills are the biggest fucking dindus on the planet.

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False [Embed]

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>>133188001

>>133187379
I thought inflation was because of a lowered currency value. And I thought inflation had rose, and that the fed were still printing money. And the fed is independent of whoever is president. The president isn't even allowed in the fed.

And for some reason, when I google for the purchasing power of the dollar, strangely, all the images seem to stop around Obama's inaugeration.

But if it wasn't inflation, then what specifically did he do?

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>>133187794
oh please im btfo this retarded gop shill

u can see yourself that he's not defending his own charts when i call them out

but ur right to be skeptical since there are more and more ppl larping as me

some friendlies but also some genuine right wing retards

>>133187849
I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was more talking directly with you about the validity of your sources, for future reference. You cited politifact and they're very openly biased. I dislike CNN because they don't follow their own suggestions. If they did, they would probably still have a great deal of respect by both sides today. "Check your sources three times before posting".

So no, I wasn't disagreeing about California being an economic powerhouse. They definitely are. It's just... there are signs of it weakening. They're no longer able to defend against forest fires and are threatening the Fed, if they don't start paying their fire fighting efforts instead, they'll just let the fires burn. You, being a leaf, should know how disastrous this can be. So no matter how good the economy is here right now, that could all go up in a puff of literal smoke.

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>>133187179

>>133178429

In short? Minorities.

>>133188244
Lol alright alright. Just be sure to take breaks between threads, man. You really do post a lot. Stay hydrated etc. Peace.

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>>133188095
You know I replied to that right. I already btfo you on this. Hold on I'll find the post but here's the chart.

>>>133141512

here u go

damn im fast

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>>133188244
>using /pol/ posts to make yourself look good

You're such a sad left-wing retard.

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>>133188203
Superior Democratic economic policy kiddo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration

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>>133188370
thx bro

>ITT: good little leftists get their teeth removed, can't argue at all. Because they have no facts.

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>>133188409
No. You just called it fake, left-wing retard. You don't BTFO anyone.

Wow, left-wing retards are so retarded.

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>>133188330

>>133188254
California is a shit economy. They already functionally went bankrupt.

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>>133188474
i know how much my compliments trigger u tards

>>133186356

> Be faggot op.
> Post ignorant image with no evidence to back it up
> Ignore all posts showing data that contradicts unsubstantiated graphs and claims.
> Continue to insult others and be a massive dildo.
> Feel unearned superiority.

KYS OP. Sage.

>>133188409
Nope. Obamaleaf loses badly again.

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>>133186745
Barack Obama is a disgrace to BASED black republicans.

>>133185732
This.

The people whom I know that are most pro-Mexican barely have any contact with them. Meanwhile, when I was an electrician, we had to work with them 12hrs a day, six days a week.

You should be required to exist closely with a race for a set amount of time before you are allowed to have any opinions on said race.

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>>133188648
>endless graphs

Wow even you're left-wing retarded friends don't know that you post the same graphs.

>>133181328
Because fascism or something.

>>133188345
How so?

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>>133188570
You're doing it again. You're posting fake news charts, that when I debunk, you don't even defend. Watch. You're not going to defend your own bullshit, you will jump to the next fake chart. Watch as I predict exactly what u retard will do.


Median income went up under Obama. Not down. It went from $53.5k to $56.5k and we still have 2016 numbers to come in.

Where the fuck are you getting Obama starting median real income $57k from? Do u retards even know when Obama took office?

Why the fuck do you right wing retards just make shit up?

Now watch this. I fucking guarantee it. This right wing retard won't defend his own fake news. He'll jump to the next bullshit.

You retards actually love getting btfo by me don't you?

see >>133185400 >>133186487

>>133188648
>get teeth smashed out
>HUU HUU at least I vpn congnratulated mself

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>>133188126
Bitch you know Bill Clinton was the start of it. At least he's better than the second welfare man.

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>>133188708
All I do is win. I win so much that right wing retards get btfo so hard, they can't defend their own bullshit, they just keep jumping and spamming because they actually know they're posting fake news that they can't defend. They don't even try to counter-argue when I debunk them. Every time.

These cucks are actually pathetic. They don't even put up a fight.

>>133188855
Nope. Obamaleaf loses badly again.

>>133182183
Are you saying theres more economic equality in states like NY and Cali? Please anon.

>>133189011
Nope. Good work demonstrating our superiority again.

>>133178429
If blue states aren't poorer than red states, why are the blue states so vocally cranky about being poor?

The answer is because blue state cost of living is sky fucking high, inflated higher than even their college-age pissant wages who make four times what their work is worth because cost of living is so high.
Prices in New York for many good is the same as in an Alaskan oiltown.
In Alaska it's because everything has to be flown in on puddlejumpers from a fishing town where every shipping barge is going a quarter of the planet out of its way to make the delivery.
In New York it's because Democrats are only competent at stealing the wealth of their constituents.

>>133178429
the southern strategy, goofus. the major parties literally divied up the country's voter base in the 1960s. republicans courted poor, rural whites on purpose.

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>>133189006
Based Bill Clinton left Bush one of the best economies in American history. 3.9% unemployment, a thriving economy, a $315 BILLION annual budget surplus, the national debt set to be paid off within 10 years, the highest labor participation rate in American history, and no wars.

Within 8 years, George Bush and the Republicans left America on its knees.

This is why Republicans can't be trusted with the economy. No matter how good a situation they inherit, they'll fuck it all up and blame Democrats. Every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKv-dXHhtMs

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I'll wait for a right wing retard to defend his own bs charts. Until then, Obama Leaf out!

>>133188648
You need a better hobby you egotistical fuck. Get a gf or something holy shit. Shitposting on a political board for brownie points you'll never get is absolutely retarded

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>>133188855
>asking someone to defend their graphs when they can't even defend their own graphs

Left-wing retards just amaze me. Obama would be ashamed of you for being a cucked minion with no counterarguments.

>>133178429
because blue politicians suck all the money into their blue states

>>133189150
Sure, look at: >>133185889 (read it, I know you are seething and it's hard to concentrate, but pay attention to it)

It's clearly explained and if you have a basic command of mathematics beyond linear relationships you should get it.

>>133183614
>A communist calling other people stupid

I've seen it all now

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>>133189150
Watch. You're gonna pull the same shit again. You're gonna come and tell me that I'm defending Bush even though that's not what I'm doing. And you're gonna say you're gonna be gone even though you'll be back because you're scared that I'm blowing you the fuck out.

Left-wing retards are such jokes.

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>Trying this hard to establish an identity on an anonymous forum
Whether or not the arguments are sound is irrelevant. Such behavior is unbecoming of any who post on 4chan. Or any of the chans for that matter.

>>133188855
Obama wouldn't even raise manufacturing back in less than a year. Sad. Eisenhower had three recessions and the economy boomed again months after the recession started. But Obama took it like a turtle his entire eight years.

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>>133180095
>Obama
>2009-2011

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>>133188855

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>>133189426
It's hilarious that u retards think Newt had anything to do with the Clinton surplus. How many times I gotta tell u that Republicans were against the tax hikes on the rich that created the Clinton surplus and Republicans pissed away the Clinton surplus the moment they got the chance.

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>>133189426
>>133189676
BASED BILL CLINTON handed right wing retard hero and leading conservative thinker George Dubya Bush and a GOP Congress a $230 BILLION SURPLUS.

What happened to it?

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>>133189652
I know, aren't left-wing retards such cucked fools?

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How is it even possible that we have a president that's this AMAZING?

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>>133189666
1. I love how GOP shills have to skip over the last 2 Republican presidents. It cracks me up every time. Absolutely hilarious.

Why do you dindu the existence of this proud 2 term Republican president? >>133186930


2. Can you imagine how fucking retarded you have to be to claim Obama had negative job creation when he had 16 million jobs?

You retards are fake news. GG. It's over.

>>133189652
Hearty kek

>>133189782
Is he schizophrenic? I think he is. It's the only way that he gets debunked daily and yet it's like nothing happened.

His filenames also indicate signs of dementia.

>>133188497
The sources of this wikipedia page are awful.

New York Times.
The whitehouse itself.
Politico.com
Rolling Stone Magazine?

But, if everything you've posted is 100% true, then maybe Obama is unliked here because he gives the windfall of such smart fiscal policy to people who don't contribute? They are really dislikable people to live among. They are the people that "immigrants" are running away from after all.

>>133189408
I already told you that chart is fake news. Obama had the lowest inflation in decades. It says Reagan had negative inflation (deflation)? He had high inflation.

You retards just make shit up.

You won't address this

you posted this >>133186203

I debunked it >>133186487

You won't defend your lies.

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>>133189731
>>133189676
Never said Bush wasn't a fuck up, left-wing retard. Just saying that Republicans are badass.

>>133189852
>it's a "left wing retard doesn't understand the metric being used" episode

Obamaleaf is a champ

leftist states make more money but everything costs more so they have a worse quality of life overall. I live better in Michigan than someone who earns 5x more than me in California.

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WHY DO GOP SHILLS ALWAYS SKIP OVER THE LAST 2 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS AND GO BACK TO REAGAN? THIS CRACKS ME UP EVERY TIME.

Why do Republicans dindu the existence of this proud 2 term Republican president?

Are GOP shills admitting that their presidents are such shit, that they have to dindu them? >>133186930

>>133189987
As per the first chart, you don't know how to read it. No, it doesn't say that Reagan had deflation. Stop seething and read properly.

As per the second chart, it's properly sourced. Just follow the link.

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>>133190009
>Never said Bush wasn't a fuck up, left-wing retard. Just saying that Republicans are badass.

Crashing the economy is badass.

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>>133189987
>that chart is fake news

And you know how, left-wing retard? You work there?

>>133189896
I know. I think this right-wing retard is schizophrenic. That probably makes him fucks dogs.

>>133190137
Trump is putting up the best numbers in the history of any president. I'll love to see your damage control in 4 years if you are still alive.

>>133190137
I think you're really dumb or something but we don't like Bush here. We basically fall under two groups:
Libertarians who like people like Cruz and Paul
Nationalists who like people like Sessions and Bannon

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>>133190149
You won't address this

you posted this >>133186203

I debunked it >>133186487 (You)

You won't defend your lies.

Obama had the lowest inflation in decades >>133186096
He created 16 million jobs.

Based Bill Clinton had low inflation as well. He created 23 million jobs.

Bush had similar inflation. He created 1 million jobs.

You're done kid. You're fake news.

>>133190235
He's already done more than any president in the past 50 years. And he did it in just 6 months. >>133189838

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>>133190235
HE SURE IS LOL

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>>133178429 >>133178745 >>133178753 >>133178850 >>133178952 >>133178994 >>133179083 >>133179105 >>133179203 >>133179276 >>133179505 >>133179813 >>133180197 >>133180284 >>133180589 >>133181050 >>133181250 >>133181328 >>133182104 >>133182421 >>133182707 >>133182907 >>133183030 >>133183690 >>133183837 >>133184078 >>133184657 >>133184838 >>133184871 >>133184947 >>133185599 >>133186789 >>133187003 >>133187043 >>133187752 >>133187958 >>133188345 >>133189074 >>133189080 >>133189215
>blue states are "rich"
no. just indebted to the point they can barely function. those are the states on the brink of insolvency, and have all the gun crime, murder, rape, and banking gibs in the country.

>>133188497
Also: that graph doesn't address the "buying power of the dollar" or "inflation" at all. It just repeats that there was more jobs.

I still can't find any reliable charts myself. Which is tin-hat-teir odd.

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>>133190180
You know that if Bush had been president longer, the economy would be back up in no time, not eight years like King Nigger. We've seen this through history, left-wing retard.

>>133185536
HURR READ A BOOK. I CANT EXPLAIN HOW IT ISNT WELFARE BUT U SHLD READ HURRRRR.

>>133190360
Actually Trump's approval rating has been climbing since the Comey hearing btfo the Russia narrative. The last Fox poll put him at 47% which is where Obongo was for a lot of his presidency.

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>>133190277
You will dindu Trump soon enough just how u dindu Bush now

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>>133190360
Trump won the election with a 33% approval rating. It is 40% now.

That's how fucked you guys are.

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>>133190428
I already told u the USD booms under Democrats and crashes under Republicans >>133187379

stop it already

>>133190137
Why do retards ignore the fact that the democrats controlled the spending during those periods

>>133190488
>Leaves out Regan

What a sad little cunt you are.

>>133183564
Mmmmmods

>>133190446
I never supported Bush mate. I was a liberal and even somewhat of an Obongo supporter until I started coming to /pol/ around 2012. In fact until Trump ran I was leaning more towards voting Dem than Republican. I was just absolutely blown away by him at the first debate .

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>>133190446
>You will dindu Trump soon enough just how u dindu Bush now
only if he goes full neocon retard

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>>133190445
>climbing

>>133190360
YA GUIZ AND HILLARY ALSO HAD A 99% CHANCE OF WINNING. YOU BELIEVE ME RIGHT?

FAGGOT

>>133178429
>>133178745
>>133178753
>>133178850
>>133178952
>>133178994
>>133179083

Its takes around 500 years to destroy a native with immigration. All the "rich blue states" were once RED or WHITE as well.

You fucking savage niggers are eating western civilization alive and you dont understand you are not contributing you are taking and destroying.

Castle walls will return.. The gene will be purified. The savages will die in the hellish future behind our castle walls....

Savages retard monkey orc destroyers.

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>>133190528
>booming under Jimmy Carter
>not booming under Reagan

Why do left-wing retards thing they'r living in a parallel universe?

Am I doing ok if I got over $1000 tucked away in my account? It may not be much, but it's something. I keep reading how half the country couldn't afford a sudden $500 or $1000 expense, so I think I'm doing ok. Not to mention talking to people occasionally on the net from hubs, who complain how they never have money because they pay out the ass damn near just to exist.

t. South Dakotan

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>>133190670
You are fucked. He won the election with far worse numbers than that.