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BREAKING NEWS 911 TRUMP JR DID IT

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WASHINGTON — Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.

Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign. There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.

But the email is likely to be of keen interest to the Justice Department and congressional investigators, who are examining whether any of President Trump’s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year’s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government attempted to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.
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Alan Futerfas, the lawyer for the younger Mr. Trump, said his client had done nothing wrong but pledged to work with investigators if contacted.

”In my view, this is much ado about nothing. During this busy period, Robert Goldstone contacted Don Jr. in an email and suggested that people had information concerning alleged wrongdoing by Democratic Party front-runner, Hillary Clinton, in her dealings with Russia,” he said to The Times in an email on Monday. “Don Jr.’s takeaway from this communication was that someone had information potentially helpful to the campaign and it was coming from someone he knew. Don Jr. had no knowledge as to what specific information, if any, would be discussed.”

It is unclear whether Mr. Goldstone had direct knowledge of the origin of the damaging material. One person who was briefed on the emails said it appeared that he was passing along information that had been given to him by others.

Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, and Paul J. Manafort, the campaign chairman at the time, also attended the June 2016 meeting in New York. Representatives for Mr. Kushner referred requests for comments back to an earlier statement, which said he voluntarily disclosed the meeting to the federal government. He has deferred questions on the content of the meeting to Donald Trump Jr.
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tl;dr
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In case anyone is still in denial about "collusion not being a crime":

>It is a crime to solicit or accept anything of value from a foreign national in a campaign.
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>>133175317
>Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy
>In an email by Goldstone

>>133175410
>It is unclear whether Mr. Goldstone had direct knowledge of the origin of the damaging material
What?
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>>133175633
This
What is he being accused of? Talking to a Russian?
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I know those are way more words than you're used to reading but I'll sum it up in easy-to-understand, Simple English words:

TRUMP JR KNEW HE WAS MEETING SOMEONE WITH OPPO RESEARCH PROVIDED BY RUSSIAN SPIES
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>>133175744
Also, mere hours later Trump is bragging about 33,000 HRC emails.
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>>133175317
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>>133175805
Accepting foreign help in relation to a campaign
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>Most of /pol/ gets fooled by slavic scum

this would have never happened in 2008
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>>133175633
apparently Goldstone, the guy who set up the meeting in the first place, sent Trump Jr an email literally saying the oppo research originated with the Russian government
this is based off of 3 people who claim to know the contents of the email but if its true he better be wiping hard drives or the nigga is fucked
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>>133175317
>According to three people with knowledge of the email.

It's going to be another OMG... then nothing.
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>>133175941
How is this an issue after Hillary literally received foreign funding from Saudi Arabia and the EU?
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Trump just needs to pardon him and move on.
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>>133175317
Cool fanfiction bruh.

sage
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It is IMMATERIAL whether the source provided anything valuable or not. I would not be shocked if Trump Jr's account is fundamentally sound - the source was bullshitting and really wanted to talk about Russia-American adoptions.

But he THOUGHT he was going to get secret oppo research from the Russian government and went there with that in mind.

This is the President's son.

If Clinton had done half as much she'd probably not even have survived the 90s.
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>>133175317
What is your source?

Majority of news is fake and gay these days, but Im curious as to why you left that out.
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>>133175317
desperation is desperation
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>MANAFORT IS A RUSSIAN SPY!
Well that didn't work
>FLYNN IS A RUSSIAN SPY!
Well that didn't work
>BANNON IS A RUSSIAN SPY!
Well that didn't work
>KUSHER IS A RUSSIAN SPY!
Well that didn't work
>TRUMP JR IS A RUSSIAN SPY!
Well....
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>>133176171
its the nytimes, not surprising considering they broke the original story in the first place
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>>133175941
Huh? George Soros and Israel do it all the time.

In anycase, DTJ didn't do it.
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>>133176076

A charitable foundation founded by the Clintons received funding from Saudi Arabia and the EU. This is not illegal, anymore than it was illegal for Trump to have an international company that "received money" from all sorts of individuals and nations.

Furthermore, how long are you going to keep bringing up these bogus Clinton scandals as responses to very real Trump scandals? It's been 6 months and it's already getting a bit stale.
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>>133175816
The words literally say the email to Trump JR didn't indicate who it was from.

Then the next paragraph says he did indicate to the ny times who it was.


So is Don Jr supposed to have knowledge of all the emails at NYT?
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>>133176056
>nigga is fucked

in what way?
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>>133176254

Trump himself could be a KGB agent. We don't care. As long as it isn't Hillary.
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>>133175317
HOW WE WILL EVER RECOVER
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>>133175317
I already consider him President-elect

#46.
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>>133176356
DNC did the same with Ukraine.
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LOCK HIM UP
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If it's fake, why would Trump Jr released a statement confirming it? Are you guys saying Don Jr is fake news?
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>>133175317
Old hags laugh at your feeble attempts. You will never win and you will never be able to make Russia happen. It will never happen
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lol it was a obama/clinton sting from the very beginning. thats hilarious.


fusion gps.


thats where the trail will lead you.
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HE WAS A GOOD BOY HE DINDU NUFFIN
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E-mail proves he received $35 million from Kremlin backed bank what happens? Think he'll take a x-country road trip to Utah?
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>>133175410
>Robert Goldstone contacted Don Jr. in an email and suggested that people had information concerning alleged wrongdoing by Democratic Party front-runner, Hillary Clinton, in her dealings with Russia

So, the most laughably charitable interpretation of this information is that Don Jr may have broken a law in learning that Clinton was a corrupt piece of garbage? Even if this is true, I wonder if anyone would really give a shit.
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>>133176307
>NYT

Yeah, as I thought. Fake and so very gay
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>>133176382
>going to a meeting for opposition research that you apparently knew was dug up by the Russian government
whether or not we get a general collusion charge doesnt matter, hes going to have Mueller up his ass raking his business dealings and fnances through the coals and god help him if he has so much as a mis filed tax return
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>>133176481

Maggie Haberman is prolly the best journalist ever. Trump approached her in 2014 to announce that he's running
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>>133176056
>according to three people familiar with the thought processes of the Kremlin affiliated network in contact with those that have a basic understanding of Putin's intentions of hacking the US election.
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>>133175816
KEK, says a tabloid writer, aka guy who lies for a living,. Says a shill with no supporting evidence to back up the claim.
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>>133175816
To quote Hillary herself: WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!

She still lost. The information was useless and irrelevant to the campaign.
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>>133175816
Yes, but if you read the Circa article this is all based on you know that they went to the DOJ with it, complaining of funny business. Congress us know investigating:

A) If Fusion GPS is involved as alleged by Trump

B) How did the lawyer get away with meeting a citizen? She was only allowed in the country to argue a case, so she violated her parole agreement.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/07/09/politics/russian-lawyer-who-got-inside-donald-trumps-inner-circle-had-been-denied-us-visa
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>>133176076
>>133176312
It's a federal offense for a campaign to receive anything of value from foreigners.
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>>133176481

Link to CNN stream pls
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>>133176669
>some guy says it's from the Russians government
>it must be true
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I'd like to see ac tual PROOF that he did meet the mentioned laywer with the intent.
And no, anonymous sources or the ex-CIA director who shouldn't even have access to such files is not a valid source.
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>>133176776
Unless your last name is Clinton
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>>133176494
confirming what you retard? that he met a civilian lawyer who provided nothing and left?
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>>133176567
when I heard this story being told on NPR it sounded like bait that DJTjr unfortunately took. Nothing will happen though, just MSM frothing at the mouth before they get BTFOd again by their own doing
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>>133176669
If they remove Trump, I wonder how many people will die in the ensuing chaos... I wonder how many of them will be swamp creatures...
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>>133176312

Is there a reason you people impulsively refuse to accept any bad thing the Trump family has done?

It seriously feels like I'm talking to cult members whenever I run into Trump lovers at this point.
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>(((goldstone)))
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>>133175317
>more fake news
>(((goldstone)))
good try retards
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>>133176356
Because it's already been proven there wasn't a scandal dipshit. Hillary, on the other hand, is fucked shilly bob thorton
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>>133175317
>trump is not under investigation
>is
>Goldstone
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>>133176776
What did they receive that was of value?
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>>133176356
>how long are you going to keep bringing up these bogus Clinton scandals as responses to very real Trump scandals?

Wait what? So your argument is Trumps son went to get info on emails Hillary Clinton illegally stored on a home brew server but Trumps son is breaking some non-existent law?

But if the email scandals are "bogus" then what was he going to get from muh Russians?
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>>133176776
He didn't receive anything.

and any prosecutor will read that as something tangible
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Ya it's probably finally over now. It was fun while it lasted. I was just in it for the memes anyway.
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and of course, /pol/ doesn't care.
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>>133176845

Just watch Fox. He released a statement confirming it ;)
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>>133176966
Yes, now kill yourself.
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>point out something completely fucked with Trump
>b-but Clinton

Who's defending Clinton here?

Who's in the White House, Clinton or Trump?

If your best argument is "Clinton was a corrupt shitbag too!" you're probably in serious trouble.
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>>133176481

He'll just get pardoned. Teflon Don.
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>>133175317

> Don Jr. keeps lying.
> White House keeps leaking and revealing he'd lying.
> Don Jr. has to keep changing his story and lying more
> Making everything worse
> Will be subpoenaed by FBI or Congress
> Will lie to them
> Will go to jail with Flynn & Kushner
> Trump's Presidency will be remembers as that of a Crime Family

L. Fucking O. Fucking L.

Tick-Tock Trump-cucks
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>>133176776
>anything of value
This means money, valuables, or financial securities. There's literally zero precedent for considering that statue to apply to information.
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>>133175317

he admitted this already yesterday, and said the lawyer wasn't sounding legit and ended the meeting 20 mins in. turns out they were linked to a dem group, fusion gps.

does this have anything new other than what we knew yesterday?
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>>133176171
>muh fake news
god drumpftards are so fucking pathetic
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>>133175816
>more words than...
We're used to reading sourced information from intelligent people, not SJW shills who are pissed off that their mommies didn't make chicken nuggets before whoring out on the town
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>>133175816
I can tell you are VERY new here. Here is a (you).
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>>133176567
I thought Jeb hired Fusion GPS, no?
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>>133176615
Funny how no one questioned the basic facts of reporting until Trump pulled up the ol Lügenpresse. Almost as if he sought to discredit what he knew was coming.
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>>133176853
>God Trump supporters don't believe bullshit with no sources and no evidence fucking cult members why don't they just believe what they're told god they're so dumb unlike me
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>He didn't receive anything of value
It's a federal crime for campaigns to conspire to receive anything of value from foreigners.

And yes, opposition research is of value, which is why 3 senior campaign officials took time out of their busy schedule to go hear this bullshit.

RIP Trump Jr.
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literally nothing again for the 3249698th time
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Headline on Drudge linking it to the NYT article. Drudge thinks it's real, not fake
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>>133176700

LOL. All this information is being confirmed by people IN the White House. You can't expect Trump to be such a constant embarrassment and expect people to remain loyal.

Did the dumbfuck President tweet yet and make everything WORSE? hehehehe
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>>133177045
Do you have any proof? Is there any proof that Trump's son did as you proclaim? If there is, was it illegal?
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>>133176938

>But if the email scandals are "bogus" then what was he going to get from muh Russians?

I never said they were, they were totally real and Comey nearly prosecuted her for them. You're trying to make this about Clinton when nobody ITT is defending Clinton. This is about Trump.

>So your argument is Trumps son went to get info on emails Hillary Clinton illegally stored on a home brew server

You have quite an imagination. I guess you saw the word "email" in the OP and your brain sort of ran with it.
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>>133177067
How comfortable would you being going to court on that technicality?
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>>133177182
>It's a federal crime for campaigns to conspire to receive anything of value from foreigners.

nothing a pardon won't fix
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>no source

Nothing burger thread
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>>133175317

Trump is going to pardon his son and it's going to be the biggest happening since Burr shot Hamilton.
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>>133176797
doesnt matter if it actually tusn out to be true, though that would be bad if it was, it just gives mueller a gigantic juicy target and a perfect excuse to target him. these investigations need a scalp and hes a tempting one
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>>133176853
Because you're the one in the cult. There is nothing wrong here. The Russia shit is an irrelevancy. Nobody outside the deep state/ media establishment gives a shit. This is left wing birtherism. You embarrass yourself by continuing to hang onto it long after most of the country has moved on.
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>>133176356
You just said the issue was accepting foreign help in relation to a campaign. How is a conversation worse than laundering $20 million dollars?
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>>133175633
The email basically:
>Oh right, the emails. The emails from Hillary. The emails specifically stolen from Hillary. Hillary’s Emails
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>>133177064
No such thing. There are only Democucks.
And only libs shitposting on /pol/ will get imprisoned.
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>>133175317
>Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email

Three anonymous sources. Wow! That's better than a single anonymous sources. While we're on the topic, I was told by a hundred anonymous sources that the reporters at the NYT suck goat dicks. They go to petting zoos and suck the dicks of goats. And the editors let rottweilers mount them and fuck them in the ass. And then they run a train on OP.
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>>133176359

The picture on the left is a photoshop, by the way.
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>>133177064
keep dreaming cunt shill. 8 years of Trump presidency is all you have to look forward to.

at least your shitty job is secure for that long, amirite?
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>>133177277
>nothing a pardon won't fix
Technically correct. Nothing an impeachment wouldn't fix.
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>>133177321
Pardon for what exactly? Come on, tell me.
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>>133176767
Where does it stand that they went to the DOJ with it?

Big if true.
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>>133177144

Trump Jr. went from denying any contact with Russians during the campaign to saying he met with one briefly over adoption shit to saying he met to get some dirt on Clinton. Has none of that sunk in your head?

Trump himself lies 24/7 but at this point you've got your head buried too deep into his asshole to ever question him. It's pitiful.
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What if this was all that was said..
Russkie: "we have all of hillarys emails. our guy seth risch sent them to us. we sent them ti wikileaks.

DTJr: I wonder if julian plans to release them?


thats not even a crime is it? to wonder something?
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>>133177277
That does nothing but kick the can to the state level, NY prosecutors would have a field day.

The president can't pardon state crimes.
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>>133176356
It's been 6 months and it's already getting stale? Nice job summing up the tinfoil hat Russian Conspiracy, shareblue
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>It is unclear whether Mr. Goldstone had direct knowledge of the origin of the damaging material. One person who was briefed on the emails said it appeared that he was passing along information that had been given to him by others.

I'm confused. Doesn't this line indicate this is currently fake news faggotry?
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>>133176481
Gets locked up. Trump pardons. Lol
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>>133177064
These shills have really regrouped man.
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>>133177182

I guess its a good thing Trump Jr wasn't in charge of Trumps campaign in any capacity in the timeframe in question, and no infomation was exchanged. I guess oppo research goes both ways.
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>>133176815

>>I'd like to see ac tual PROOF that he did meet the mentioned laywer with the intent.

He admitted it, you retard.
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>>133177248
Do you feel better now? Does it feel good to tell daddy how you feel? Do you have feelings that need to be expressed? Feelings feelings fe fes
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>>133176076
>How is this an issue after Hillary literally received foreign funding from Saudi Arabia and the EU?

"Tu Quoque" is not a legal defense.
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>>133177344
>How is a conversation worse than laundering $20 million dollars?
One's punishable by up to 5 years in a federal prison and the other's laundering $20 million dollars.
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>>133177443
>impeachment

republican house
republican senate
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>>133177521
Where did he admit anything?
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So many shills in this thread..

time to let it die.
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>>133177096
Comey already confirmed that most of the reporting coming from the media on this topic is fabricated. Nothing from these outlets should be trusted until the indisputable facts are revealed; not unverifiable information from anonymous sources.
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>>133177261

>Do you have any proof?

I'm an american sitting behind a computer. Every other leak the NYT have provided this year have been bourn bout by events that followed. They do have some sort of reputation to uphold, after all.

>Is there any proof that Trump's son did as you proclaim?

Three people in a position to know went to the NYT about it.

> If there is, was it illegal?

Absolutely, under the Logan Act at least if not treason. You can't get information from foreign spy organizations to help your political campaign in this country, I don't know how you do it in Germany.
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>>133175744
So Hillary and Obama colluded with Saudi Arabia and they should be indicted?
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>>133177395
Nice job defending a KKK Grand Dragon you piece of shit
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>>133175744

Yeah but there was nothing of value transferred. And receiving an email saying "The Russian govt wants to help you" is not the same as seeking out the Russian govt's help.

>>133175857

The 33,000 figure was public knowledge by then and was spoken of by all HRC critics. FFS
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>>133177238

If Drudge turns on Trump, that could potentially be a pretty fucking big deal.
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Why is everyone ignoring the fact that the Russians had dirt on Hillary?

Hillary did some fucked up shit, as per usual, and the ruskies had actual proof. So what was it this time? That's what I'm most interested about.

And furthermore, how is wanting to know this information, receiving this information, or providing this information such a big scandal??
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>>133177589
Nothing a midterm won't fix
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>>133177096
Citation Needed
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>>133177045
>>133177064
>>133177096
>>133175816

Nice LARP you guys got going there shareblue. I wonder who's behind these posts
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>>133176669
this is it just an excuse to try and dig for something else, desperation
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>>133177329

I guarantee if Obama or Clinton had done half of the shit Trump has involving the Russians so far, the people on this board would be flipping the fuck out and ready to jump the White House fence to strangle them.

It's a fact stated by all of our intelligence agencies that Russia worked to influence our election and yet you say they're irrelevant. You're truly fucked in the head if you believe that, and I just don't know what to do with people like you at this point if you brush aside common knowledge as fake news just because it makes the man you voted for look bad.
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>>133177545
You don't care, because Communism is a criminal ideology.
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>>133177344
>You just said the issue was accepting foreign help in relation to a campaign.

The issue is American politicans are only allowed to accept foreign help from kikes.

Jews are indescribably buttmad about not getting their way in Syria because of Russia.

I wouldn't be surprised if this "Russian Lawyer" was a jew who was in bed somehow with the Clintons.
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So a former tabloid journalist e-mailed Trump Jr. saying the source of the potentially damaging information about Clinton comes from the Russian Government (which could be any public record within the government) and then help set up that nothing burger meeting. Furthermore the NYT doesn't even have the e-mail, just three "sources" that say they know of the e-mail.

In the 4th paragraph they flat out say their intentions. They want the justice department to subpoena everything they can and are basically trying to use the DoJ as a weapon against Trump by mixing witch hunting with public outrage.

This is quite pathetic.
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>>133177524
Daddy? Don't be a fag have a normal conversation
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>hey meet with me, i have information about the enemy talking to russians
>haha, you just talked to me and i was russian all along. checkmate
fake news media is now getting their narratives from wrestling
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>>133177617
>I'm an american sitting behind a computer. Every other leak the NYT have provided this year have been bourn bout by events that followed. They do have some sort of reputation to uphold, after all.
So basically it boils down to "trust muh NYTimes", despite the fact that even fucking Comey testified that they were pushing fake news.
>Three people in a position to know went to the NYT about it.
Anonymous sources told me you molest little children.
>Absolutely, under the Logan Act at least if not treason. You can't get information from foreign spy organizations to help your political campaign in this country, I don't know how you do it in Germany.
I don't know whether the Logan Act even applies in this situation.
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>mfw Trump is impeached during his first year of office
Hillary wins again!
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>>133177617
>Every other leak the NYT have provided this year have been bourn bout by events that followed
Nope.

>Three people in a position to know went to the NYT about it.
Ah, "sources say" again.

>HUU HUUUU HUUUUUUU TREASON
Nope.
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>>133177137
Dude, go look at trust in the media polls, the majority of America hasn't trusted the press for years before Trump got elected.
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>>133177063
>>133177502
kek
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>>133177741
>implying the flags mean anything
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>>133177693
well done sir
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IT'S OVER FOR GLUNTF
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>>133177589
Establishment republican house
Establishment republican senate

ftfy. The GOP has always hated Trump. They're only being quiet about it because Trump punishes his political enemies and his base is still big enough to fuck with them in the primaries. The second they think they can impeach him without risking their own seats, they will.
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>>133177651
They never really turn on him and they are only congregates, not actual news publishers.
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>>133177686
>Nothing a midterm won't fix

dems 0-4 so far

trump: "I could shoot someone in Times Square and not lose voters"
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>>133177395
that why its as funny as saying CNN blackmailed a 15 year old gay kid, cause I know its bullshit, but pretending to be ignorant of it pisses people off even more
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>>133177646
He accepted the offer for help, that's all it takes.
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>>133177238
>its real
holy shit, when drudge is battoning down the hatches you know this is gonna be a shitstorm
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>>133175317
>tabloid reporter
Into the trash it goes
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>>133177572
>conversations are worse than laundering millions from fascist regimes

Gotta love America
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>>133175317
Fake news.
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>>133177261

>>Do you have any proof? Is there any proof that Trump's son did as you proclaim?

Trump's son admitted it.

>After pleasantries were exchanged,” he said, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.

...

>It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting

Trump Jr., by his own admission, went to this meeting expecting the Russians to give him dirt on Clinton, and his defense is that the dirt wasn't usable.
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>>133177824
>So basically it boils down to "trust muh NYTimes"

the source is literally Don Trump Jr.

in fairness, he's not very credible
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>>133177739
>It's a fact stated by all of our intelligence agencies that Russia worked to influence our election

All of them huh?

Last time I checked the Dems were backpedaling on their "13 agencies" line. Because it was bullshit.

Also lots of foreign governments work to influence our elections. Some friendly, some not so much. It's not an issue however until it took away power from faggot leftists.
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>>133177693
>I wonder who's behind these posts
It's reality knocking, soon to be breaking down your door.
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I see the shills are coming out of the woodwork.
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>>133177182
>It's a federal crime for campaigns to conspire to receive anything of value from foreigners.

[citation needed]
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I thought it was entertaining that the Jewish lawyer (((Alan Futerfas))) hired by Donald Trump Jr. was quoted by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency as "He is Jewishly involved".

http://www.jta.org/2017/07/10/news-opinion/united-states/alan-futerfas-4-things-to-know-about-donald-trump-jr-s-jewish-lawyer

It is funny to read Jews calling out other Jews to their Jewish audience.
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>>133177617
>NYT
>They do have some sort of reputation to uphold, after all.

I guess since they've forced CNN to commit professional suicide, they're seeing what they can squeeze out of the NYT...
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>>133177739
>I guarantee if Obama or Clinton had done half of the shit Trump has involving the Russians so far
Like the flow of cash from russia to the clinton foundation with the uranium deal?
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>>133176133
>show up to buy drugs
>no drugs we're bought or exchanged
Is that a crime
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>>133178002
So.... There was no collusion. There was a failed attempt at getting dirt. You shill fags are getting tiresome with all the goalpost moving
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>>133175317
What law has been broken tho?
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Question:

Was this "damaging info" already held by Wikileaks?

And how would this fall under "interference" if Wikileaks was the one that published the emails that the media reported on?
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>>133178002
>implying intent
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>>133177000
Confirming what? The meeting was already disclosed. The steele dossier came from Russian agents through an ex MI6, was that collusion?
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>>133177898
CHAIKA!
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>>133175317

Holy shit this is it! Looks like drumpfy is getting impeached and executed in a few days
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>>133177762
Accurate
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>>133178002
>>133178006
>Trump's son admitted it.
So bascially, 3 anonymous sources saying that Trump's son admitted to it? What a nice proof. But what this proves is that you never took a single stem course in uni, assuming you ever went to one.
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>>133177045
But your only choice was Clinton or Trump.
If Clinton was president do you think the media would be trying to get her impeached for her crimes? would you be complaining? No.
The result of Trump's supposed crime was supposedly him getting elected over Clinton.
The "crime" prevented a legitimate criminal getting into office.
So what do you actually want here? President Pence?
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>>133177617
>under the Logan Act
This is statute 110.20; it's unrelated.

Albeit it's still a federal crime.
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>>133175317
If the left wants to pretend this is some big discovery to push real consequences, they'll get violence
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>>133175317
once again the democrats are falling for the trap, holy shit this is going to be glorious. you fags have no idea how literally stupid these people are, in fact it's utterly amazing that they were able to pull off this level of corruption and manipulation for so long being so inept. By next Tuesday any apprehension or unease you feel over this shit is going to be pure unrelenting joy.
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>>133178157
That's actually collusion
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>>133177617
>Three people in a position to know went to the NYT about it.
>anonymous sources
Fucking dropped come back when you have something substantive
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>>133177617
anybody remember when obama asked the brits to help him spy on trump?

yall gonna open up cans you dont want opened.
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>>133177498
Thinking it over, I think the implication is supposed to be that they're unsure of how the people in question came to obtain the information. So he only has knowledge of a second hand source as opposed to a first hand source.

Otherwise, it's a completely contradictory statement.
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>>133178087
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>>133178161
>What law has been broken tho?
Who needs a law to be broken for people to start calling for the death penalty and that goes for both sides.
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>>133175317
We. Don't. Fucking. Care.
>trusting (((NYT)))
TRUMP 2020!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5NrYlHyzI
>^thread theme^
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>>133178266
But it was on Drudge.
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>>133175317
So him not believing the E-mail is not an option? Because it seems the most likely.

However, even if he DID believe it it's not illegal. As long as he offered no political favors, nor requested illegally obtained information, than what he did would be 100% legal and fairly common.
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>>133177924
>trump: "I could shoot someone in Times Square and not lose voters"
>Republicans, for the past several elections: "We will repeal Obamacare"

Trump isn't on the ballot during the midterms.
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>>133176254
I think this is pretty much the MO at this juncture....just run down the list.....Next is KAC. When for Melania? Hell, I am pretty sure Barron is the mastermind at this point
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>>133178024

Yes, all of them. Feel free to look it up and get back to me if I'm somehow mistaken. And no, going to Infowars or Breitbart does not count as looking up reliable information.

And I'm not telling you to rely entirely on any one news organization in general either. Look for several, check the stories between them to see if they all line up, and then stop crying fake news just because you can't handle all the terrible crap that's coming out into the open over Trump.
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>>133175857
Oh so literally fucking nothing then. The 33,000 emails never showed up and were much part of the publuc lexicon bu then. This is nothing more than the last dying gasps of a conspiracy theory as we edge ever closer to July 27.
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>>133178356
Is Drudge news or does it just link to news? Which is it, anon?
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>>133178356
its still anonymous sources AKA bullshit they made up
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>>133177447

I'll do better than tell you, I'll link you

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
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So now we're officially to "collusion happened but it's totally legal and a nothingburger because reasons"
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>>133178356
(((Drudge)))
FTFY
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>>133177617
>Logan act
it's never convicted anyone and nobody considers it active law. You also seem to not understand the definition of treason.
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>>133177982
We have freedom of speech and money is speech.

But you violate election law and your ass is going to prison.
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>>133178157
>There was a failed attempt at getting dirt
Doesn't matter if it failed or not. That's like saying "Well, I didn't get any money, so the robbery didn't count"
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>>133178356
And no where else it seems. Sounds fishy and needs evidence.
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>>133175317
The article states that "the Russian Govt was the source of damaging info."

Apparently the meeting was bullshit, which is why it was cut short, so how is this a crime? Because Trump Jr apparently knew the oppo research was from the russians, when in actuality it was a setup?

So if there was no russian research involved, just the fact that the email said it was, makes this a crime?

Is that what these shills are saying?
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>>133178254
It's not
This is exactly what I'm talking about
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>>133178447
It's ok, it's Drumpf, he can do no wrong, also, it's ok if he's a fucking moron wood trying to destroy our country duh
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>>133178254
There was nothing colluded. This is like if you got an email from an African Prince offering dirt on hill, then when actually talking he wants your Credit Card
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>>133178281

Literally NOBODY remember this. Because it's fake news.
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>>133177591

In the statement he made to the New York times, assclown.
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>>133178266
>>anonymous sources
>Fucking dropped come back when you have something substantive

The NYT doesn't lie, they print lies from anonymous sources and pretend they're credible.
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>>133177498

>they played the telephone game

That's all?

https://youtu.be/FFriX-cEwZg
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>>133178560
So what happens when you request that from the African? Still wrong numbnuts
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>3 people familiar with the email

Why don't they just release a copy of the email?
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>>133178387
Letting Democrats win is just not an option. They are so fucking evil that even fucking McCain is a better option.
>>133178446
>contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements
Even if any of the sources offer proof of all of that, as long as he did not offer exchanges for it, he's clean.
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Remember during the debates , they had live polling going on?
Remember when they determined that every time Hillary went after Trump over Russia her numbers went down, even among liberal voters?

Now I want you to think about this
Why would they use a tactic they know doesn't work and makes them look bad?
Over and Over and Over?

Because they have NOTHING else
I want you to think about that and laugh.
Laugh at them with every kek you have because they are destroying themselves, and even better yet, they KNOW they are destroying themselves. But that can't stop it, They can't help it.
Because otherwise they would have to admit they are wrong.

Laugh at them.
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>>133178379
He already admitted to taking the meeting only because he thought he would get dirt on hillary. This confirms he knew it was coming from the Kremlin. This is cut and dry collusion with a foreign power to get a US president elected. This is bigger than watergate by a mile.
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>>133177238
>>133177651

You obviously don't look at drudge much.

Everyone of these "stories", that all turn out to be fake, has been at the top of the site. More than likely he's trying to get more expose for the story so when it turns out to be bullshit even more people will be turned off from the legacy media.

He's put the past 5+ of these "bombshell" stories up there, it doesn't mean what you think it means.
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>>133178441

It's a highly conservative news aggregator, accused in the past of being far right.
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>>133178597
Now please, link and fully quote everything.
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>>133178477
Violate election law like accepting bribes from foreign nations? Whelp I guess hillary is going to prison after all
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>>133177455
I linked it. Trump lawyers complained so congress is now investigating.
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>>133175317

>still trying to run with this

I guess this really is the hill you want your party and news networks to die on.

That's cool, it shall be so.
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Tonights top story: Its fucking nothing
More at 11
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>>133178002
we need to look into who those russians are that are funding the dnc! holy shit!
RUSSIANS ARE FUNDING THE DNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>133175317
shills out in full force on this thread. Funny that Clinton taking obscene amounts of money from Saudi Arabia and Quatar was not collusion to them.
Oh and more NYT unnamed sources. this time 3. I suppose if they still don't name them but say it's now 3 instead of 1 or 2, somehow we will believe them.
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>>133177909

Establishment Republicans support Trump for exactly two reasons:

1. They're afraid of his base primarying them.
2. They think he'll sign their tax cut bills for them
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>>133178447
well as of now the Trump party line is the meeting happened but there was no exchange of information, except there's now the added twist the supposed info was known to come from the Russian government
Man these cunts really can't use common sense can they
>endlessly dogged by charges of collusion with Russia
>not only do all this dumb shit that at best looks bad, but try to hide it so it looks even shadier
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>>133178619
It's nothing? It's why this story is retarded reaching bullshit
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>>133175746
Good point.
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>>133178703

Use google bro. This stuff is not buried very deep and you are being very demanding/retarded.
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>>133176356
You're being disingenuous
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>>133178504
It's the same kind of thing when the police set up a murder-for-hire sting. The wife (or husband) goes into it believing it is real. Doesn't matter that it isn't, what matters is their intent.

TJ went into this meeting expecting some juicy shit, and even though there wasn't, it was his intent. And that intent is illegal.
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>>133177144
>The Washington Post published an article citing an anonymous Obama staffer who stated that they "Choked" on Russia. Trump tweets that Russia is Obama's fault which implies that Russia is not fake news and anonymously sourced WaPo articles aren't fake news either.
Why does Trump believe what he's told like a dumbass and contradict everything he's been saying the last 4 months?
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>>133178504
>The article states that "the Russian Govt was the source of damaging info."

Funny thing is the source of the info that the Russian government was the source of the info is probably Israeli intelligence trying to get us into the war with Russia and Assad in Syria that Hillary promised them.
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>>133178072

Citation: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
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>>133178700
>muh conservative news aggregator
Doesn't mean that they ignore everything from CNN, nytimes etc. They posted anti-Trump news before so it's not a new thing. And Drudge got called out on /pol/ months ago.

Also, it does not matter to me what leanings the news have, I want actual proof.
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>>133178700
>liberals
>reading comprehension
Thats not what asked retard he asked if drudge did an actual write up on it or if they just linked the (((NYT))) article.
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>Muh Russian influenced the election fake news story

When are libshits going to get serious about Mexico influencing our elections?
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>>133178817
>use google bro
I didn't find the statement but what I found was porn of your mum. Google it.
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>>133178599
>NYT doesn't print lies

LOL
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>>133178736
Ah, i misunderstood you.

I thought they went to the DOJ after they had the meeting with the lawyer. Like a year ago.
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>>133176594
>So, the most laughably charitable interpretation of this information is that Don Jr may have broken a law in learning that Clinton was a corrupt piece of garbage? Even if this is true, I wonder if anyone would really give a shit.

this. The American people won't give a shit. But this will have an impact;

Here's how this'll play out

>Democrat media machine
>IMPEACH!!!! VRONGALD DROOOOMPFTH
>no impeachment will ever happen
>howevery they use it as justification to block as much of Trump's doings as possible

meanwhile, trust of the media with all this spin will drive american voters

>Democrats lose in 2018

Democrats just don't understand how they sound right now.
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what are the chances this is manufactured just to keep the media talking about Russia to make them look stupid again?
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>>133178764
number 2 is meaningless because they know any republican will sign their tax cuts for them.
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The Democrats are going to die on this Russian hill they've concocted. They'd have had a chance if this was just the beginning mentionings of much Russia now good fucking luck getting people to listen. You blew your fucking load over bullshit already
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>>133178504

This is the crime he's put himself in danger of:

https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

But the investigation is on-going, Donald Jr. is just a new criminal being targeted. Flynn, Manafort & Kushner were the main targets until this came out.

Let's not forget that if the FBI interviews him he'll probably lie to them. So obstruction of justice and perjury. Remember, he's a Trump, dumb as a fucking rock.
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>>133178198

Are you....literate?
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>>133177182

>And yes, opposition research is of value,

False.
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seriously you shareblue faggots need to get better at renaming your pictures.
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>>133176669
i can smell your desperation from here faggot

cry more
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>>133178478
Your a moron, breaking into a building even without taking anything is a crime.

Having a meeting with a drug dealer that you don't buy any drugs from isn't. Your analogy is retarded.
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>>133175317
Proofs?
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>>133178625

You can be sure Mueller has it. Holy crap, imagine the stuff being sent to Mueller daily!! Going to be amazing in the end.
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>>133178924

That's about the sort of insult I expected from someone who couldn't find Trump Jr's statement to the New York Times on his own without asking strangers on 4chan.
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>>133175317
So?
What about all those places that were offering money for "dirt" on Trump?
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>>133176046
>/pol/
>2008
Could of sworn /news/ was shut down during that year but I could be wrong
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>>133177660
>how is wanting to know this information, receiving this information, or providing this information such a big scandal?
Because the Russians can then blackmail you. No one who ever took a favor from the mob every got the good end of the bargain. How is this so fucking hard to understand?
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>>133178379

>>So him not believing the E-mail is not an option?

No, it's not, because he already said he went to the meeting because he wanted the dirt on Clinton.
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>>133178504

People read the headlines; not the article. The NYT thought it could get away with the headline alone.
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>>133176133
>if Clinton had done half as much
>implying she didnt
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>>133176067
more fucking fake news. these faggots never stop
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>>133179028
Nice deflection asslord, your Jew puppet is going down
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>>133178972
100% which is insanity because how can anyone with self respect take these unsubstantiated conspiracies seriously when CNN admits they're baseless and made up for ratings. Reminder all MSM is the same dog shit
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>>133178972
As long as there is no proof of several NAMED withnesses who did have direct access to Trump Jr., 0%.
>>133179008
No. I did ask you to provide a source for your claim and you did not deliver. So now I'm assuming you are an uneducated nigger who calls other people illiterate but does not know what a proof is.
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>>133178838
>literally trying to prosecute thought crimes
What're we Britain now
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>>133178999
Chekt and kekt
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>>133175317
RIGHT WING RETARDS AND RUSSIAN SHILLS ON DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>133178669

>This confirms he knew it was coming from the Kremlin.

>these logic leaps
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>>133179128
How would Muller, let alone these people, have access to the email? They would have had to have violated his 4th amendment rights to gain access to the email.
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>>133179085
>Having a meeting with a drug dealer that you don't buy any drugs from isn't
Really? So why is it illegal to tell an undercover you want to buy drugs, and then get arrested without actually getting drugs? The analogy isn't retarded, YOU are retarded.
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>>133178647
Or maybe, just maybe, this is all actually true and reports come out about it BECAUSE it's true, regardless of whether it makes people like the Democrats or not.
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>>133179149
LINK it, anon. I am not the one making extraordinary claims.
>b-but muh devli's proof equivalent
Link it of fuck off.
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>>133178637

>>Even if any of the sources offer proof of all of that, as long as he did not offer exchanges for it, he's clean.

What? No he's not. You're not allowed to take it *at all*.
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>>133178932
Nobody knows when they went but they obviously sniffed a setup, they had lawyers present. Think they wouldn't have covered their asses?
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>>133175317
>according to three people with knowledge of the email

sure. sure.
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>>133179007
>https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

What does the US government have to do with Trump Jr's actions?
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>>133175816
so?
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>>133178703

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

>It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting

Idiot.
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>>133179175
>Donald Trump jr wanted to help his dad and take down Clinton
>bigger than Watergate
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>>133179266
Hello Obamaleaf. If we're so retarded, how come we know what a proof is and how come Republicans always win the vote of the richer people?
>>133179331
This is not what the law says.
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>>133175857
This really kind of debunks the relationship between the two though. If he didn't have them, why talk about it if he knew no one had them?
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>>133178838

>And that intent is illegal.

Except it isn't, unless you're claiming Hillary Clinton *is* the State. In which case, we have a lot more problems than this shit.
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>>133179315
Google faggot, do you use it?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
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>>133179430
Let's archive it
https://archive.is/2kNNV
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>>133178838
>And that intent is illegal.

You kikes won't stop until we start hanging you from lampposts will you?
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>>133179275
When I said this I was referring to the article which clearly states that the email Trump received indicated this damaging info was coming from the Russian government.
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>>133175317

Axios is reporting the source is Rob Goldstone, a publicist and friend of Trump Jr.'s who set the meeting up.

Not very anonymous. Also, does anybody actually believe this guy would lie to protect Don Jr at risk of doing time himself?

How many people have turned on Trump to Mueller behind-the-scenes to protect their own skins?
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Nice. Jr goes to prison, even for one day, he'll fold and come out with new found love for his oppressed brethren. Tour the country vying to be Zuck's VP running mate on Universal Basic Income. They win. Trumps in the White House until Chelsea or some Bush takes over. Perpetual Bush/Clinton/Trump cycles with the odd Kennedy or two until the Habbening in 3000 A.D. MFW.
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>>133179311
Why would anyone think this given the legacy media's track record? Why would you expect anyone to think this? In what way is this a reasonable idea?

Moral of the story; don't cry wolf when no wolves are around.
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>>133179175
Bah you're assuming too much. It's true that scenario is possible. But it's one of many possible. At face value, this is a non issue.

It only becomes an issue when you exaggerate.
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>>133178647
My Deus.... I can't wait to see their faces again the day after the 2020 election.
Silicon Valley fag here, deep in enemy territory. I can't wait to get high blood pressure via post 2020 election salt mining. It will glorious once again.
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>>133178669
>he only took the meeting because he thought he would get dirt on clinton
>this confirms collusion with russia
Did the lady he met with claim to be a russian spy? Was she actually a russian spy or was she accociated with russia? Youre taking some big leaps here, but who cares, lock djt, president Trump never colluded with the russians like we have been saying
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>>133179085

>>Having a meeting with a drug dealer that you don't buy any drugs from isn't.

If the meeting's about buying drugs, it actually kind of is.
>>
>It shall be unlawful for a person to, directly or indirectly, solicit, accept, or receive a thing of value in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
>No person shall knowingly provide substantial assistance in the solicitation, making, acceptance, or receipt of a prohibited contribution
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
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>>133177182
Are you talking about the "piss dossier"?

Or do laws only apply to Drumpf? Remember, the piss dossier was Democrat opposition research from Britain.
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>>133175317
Who fucking caresssssss
>pic related to American politics.
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>>133179315

These aren't extraordinary claims, they're claims you can find on google. Google "Trump Jr Statements Russia Lawyer".

In all the time you've spent whining about how we are not spoonfeeding you, you could have found Trump's statements and composed a hamfisted rebuttal to the import and relevance of those statements.
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>>133179430
So this just proves that the women he met was just there under a certain pretext.
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>>133178838
No it's not, the law says nothing about "conspiracy to receive valuable goods"
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>>133179430
This was seriously the dumbest thing he said. It contradicts his claim that he went into the meeting not knowing what it was about. He literally can't string two sentences together without contradicting himself.
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>>133178764
>>133178988

I would argue #1 is also meaningless. The voting block Trump used to win won't vote for someone like Romney, but that isn't stopping them from pissing off Trump voters by blocking trumps agenda full stop. The GOP is just as retarded and self destructive as the Libs. It just so happens the GOP agenda is more logical/reasonable so they win elections despite being horrid tacticians. (Trump not included)
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>>133176853
the funny thing is you don't even see how most of the world is laughing at you. you think you're right because you and your friends have the megaphones and the noise you all create for one another simulates accuracy, but literally everyone that doesn't live in your bubble rightly thinks you're a fucking retard.
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>>133179292

Or gotten a warrant from a FISA court.
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>>133178968
Or the other shoe drops: Trump already said they sensed they were being set up. They probably went immediately to the authorities to cover themselves. They
definitely did warn the DOJ at some point: congress is now investigating if it was a dem setup.
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>>133177133
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>>133175317
>still forcing this spin.
How will we ever recover? I am sure that everyone the Democrats don't like is working for the Kremlin nowadays.

The thing that I think is most funny is how the NYTimes is still shooting itself in the foot with these articles.
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>>133179598
it was glorious. I used to say, you know don't boast. I hated it when they boasted when (((Obama))) won. But you know, the saltier they become, the more I like to rub it in.
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>>133176853

Because over the past two years we've been through about 200 "We got em this time boys!" stories. And what?
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>>133179565
>because the president wouldn't pardon his own son
>thinking this will even go that far
Kys
You know how this is a slide thread 4-5 posts no captcha
>allows for easy shilling
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>>133179676
>These aren't extraordinary claims, they're claims you can find on google. Google "Trump Jr Statements Russia Lawyer".
The extraordinary claims of this thread were that Trump Jr. did something illegal by negotiating with her, despite him even denying it.
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>>133179311
So far every fucking story like this has been proven later to be 100% bullshit. EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. ONE. All based on "people familiar with xyz". Or "officials say" or anonymous sources. etc.

ALL. OF. THEM. COMPLETE. BULLSHIT.
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>>133175317
How is this fake news different from previous fake news?
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>>133179725
Well the entire family is full of clueless fucking idiots. They make the Bush dynasty look like fucking geniuses.
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>>133175633
Its fucking nothing
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>>133175317
(((sources)))
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>>133179664
>Remember, the piss dossier was Democrat opposition research from Britain.

Yeah it was fraud news just like this is. Some shit a couple of hand rubbing kike lawyers thought up to try and frame Trump.

It won't work and ultimately these people are going to severely regret trying it because their own shady dealings are going to be gone over with a fine toothed comb for something criminal to charge them with.
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>>133179725

Like father like son.

>this whole Russia thing... it's just a fake story

Straight implicating in obstruction of justice. An entirely unforced error.
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oh, I get it. the liberal dumbfuck squad thinks Russia providing real information that disqualifies a candidate is somehow bad or in any way responsible for HRC losing. No, sweeties, this is why HRC lost:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpngFEiASFQ
Y'all are arguing that finding dirt on HRC, even if it was found by Russia, is anything less than real dirt on HRC. Worse, you think "hacking" means finding out real dirt not literally HACKING THE BALLOTS which is what a non-psycho assumes the term means. I used to think there was a mole at the DNC making you look like fucktards but it turns out you're actually arguing for her imprisonment and you don't even realize it.
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>>133179641

Please try to run with this financial statute in a court.
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>>133178669
>>133178669
>This confirms he knew it was coming from the Kremlin.

How the fuck do you figure?

Qnd like I said, with no offers promised its neither soliciting nor collusion. Lrn2law.
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>>133179711

Yes....and that the pretext, as Don Jr. clearly an unambiguously states, was getting dirt on Clinton.
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Ok, it looks worse than it actually is, and will help the media to remind the public of the russia thing.

But what is going on? Why do people leak parts of things that are in an on-going investigation, only to be selective about it, and have the media portray a misleading narrative?

This is so fucked up. I hope it's Bannon leaking, and that he is using it to destroy those fuckers once and for all.

What is his strategy?
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>>133179900
Deflecting, triggered Trumptardv detected
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>>133179711

Yeah, the cocaine he was trying to buy was baking soda. Too bad it's still a crime to knowingly solicit.
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>>133179729
Trumptards will vote for whichever candidate has a R next to his name because they hate democrats with a passion.
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>>133179612
Three people
>familiar with the email
Told new york times that the email between trump jr and his lawyer told trump jr that this info was
>part of the russian effort to influence the election
Its even more pathetic than last time they spun some bullshit

Also 3 people familiar with an email between two people LOL
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>>133179748

>someone who's surrounded by right wingers, likely in some white trash/lower-lower-middle-class section of the country

No, my friend, you will find that the world laughs at you.
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>>133178859
can you not read? if you can read, you should actually read that, maybe with a dictionary so you can make sense of the big words.
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>>133179371
One of them was Goldstein, the dem rat who set up the meeting.

It was designed to trip up Trump Jr but it's looking like they covered themselves by reporting it to the authorities.
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>>133179501
>No step on snek flag

k bud
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>>133180036
Yep, they'll ruin the country too just so they can chuckle to themselves.
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>>133179971
I'd like to point out that this video of HRC was bad enough to fuck her chances before we found out she sharted.
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>>133176056

>Like with a cloth or something?
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>>133179177
No shit. But that doesn't mean he thought she was with the Kremlin.

And again, it wouldn't matter even if he did think that.
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>>133178669
this reasoning is insane. there's an endlessly long history of political opponents digging up each other's past and putting it to light for political benefit.

remember the pussy grabbing Trump tape? As long as he offered no political favors, nor requested illegally obtained information, than what he did would be not just perfectly legal but also very common.

All this story makes me want to know is if there ever really was any dirt on Clinton relating to Russia.
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>>133179971

>Bad news comes out about Trump and his family
>B-b-but Hillary lost!

No one gives a fuck about Hillary except you when you're trying to protect your orange boyfriend. Pull your head out of Trump's ass, breath in some oxygen and start to realize, just because a news story comes out about him that is negative, that does not magically make it fake news.
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>>133179632
Except instead of drugs he was trying to buy evidence of a crime LOL
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>>133179994
Quite the opposite, he did deny her and instantly went to Congress to report this.
>>133180024
>knowingly
He did not ask her for any information and it went to Congress for investigation. Likely a Dem set-up. How retarded can you be?
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Fusion GPs is about to be BTFO on a truly epic...Biblical level...holllly shiiiiit...

Glenn R Simpson better get some truly gifted lawyers.
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>>133179979
In B4 the shills realize
>the dirt came from the Kremlin!!!!!!
>ok what's she guilty of if it's real
:^)
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>>133180093

Man, I came to /pol/ today looking for insane defenses of Trump Jr. to make fun of, and you're just pretending not to understand it.

Fucking boring, dudes.
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>>133179566
>>133179858
The byline on the NYT story is a parade of fucking Pulitzers. These aren't some low-rent hacks. I'll accept it if this does turn out to be false, but these four reporters have personal reputations they're staking on this report.

The NYT is a dumpster fire, but individual reporters can have integrity.
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>>133180196
But but, her emails! The sad fucking story of his braindead supporters
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>>133179768
I can't imagine we wouldn't already know if a warrant was issued for anything of Jr.'s given all the public knowledge of other such documents related to the people involved in this case.
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>>133179768
You clearly don't know what the FISA court does.
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>>133179664
/THREAD
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>>133179970

No one has ever in the history of the united states been charged with obstruction of justice for hoping that their issues with law enforcement would be resolved quickly and in their favor.

You nevertrump kikes are torturing language so hard you're probably violating the geneva conventions.
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>>133177470
"I wonder what robbing that bank was like Mr. Bankrobber, I wonder" That is not a crime is it? Too wonder how to rob a bank and getting an email that someone robbed a bank and then talking to a bankrobber's lawyers about bank robberies, that's not a crime is it?
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>>133179979
I should have said this article because I was referring to the article in the OP. Bad wording on my part, but the article does in fact prove Trump went into the meeting under the impression that he would be receiving data from the Russian government itself
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>>133175317
8 months since the election and this mess is still going on??!! Get over it already. You neolibs are the biggest bunch of sore losers ever. You fielded the worst candidate in American media, had the entire mainstream news media on your side as well as both the Democrat and Republican parties and still lost even with the help of several million illegal immigrant votes. This doesn't mean Trump is great, this means HILLARY SUCKS!!!! Nobody wants that communist dirt bag for president. She is the meanest most corrupt person to ever run for the office. It would be an utter disaster if she was president.
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>>133180036
Trump voters stuck with Trump even when the entire Republican establishment was against him. His supporters wanted him long before he was the nominee, not because he was the republican nominee.
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>>133179837
More like LOL Nothing Matters, senpai. It's all theater while our pockets get picked year after year. Go to Vox or something if ur so srs. Or have a coronary, Ghost Face Redpilla, you.
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>>133180300

It's more the fact she was storing SAPs on a server provided from fucking Amazon.
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>>133180002
>>133180293
Like the pulitzer winner who got fired last week at CNN?
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>>133180222
>and instantly went to Congress to report this.

Source? First I'm hearing about this.
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>>133180293
>...but these four reporters...

Fuck 'em. No sympathy for anyone at the NYT. I wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire.

I'm 100% serious. Fuck 'em.
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>>133180065

>Its even more pathetic than last time they spun some bullshit

Which was when?

The NYT and WP definitely have leftist-centrist-globalist slanting but I can't remember them ever reporting something that was entirely false. Presenting it in a slanted way, yes, but not making up stories out of whole cloth the way "news organizations" on the right are known to do.
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>>133180024
but she didnt give him any cociane...or anything else...this is why undercovers have to wait for the exchange. if theres no exchange theres no fucking crime. period.
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>>133180409
Doesn't matter blowboy, now Drumpf is on the block.
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>>133179975
>Mr. Trump, would you, for the record, please state how much your father's campaign spent on opposition research
>Mr. Trump, "Obviously I'm the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent... went nowhere but had to listen.", are those your words?
>Mr. Trump, we have an email showing you were explicitly informed that this contact was a Russian national working on behalf of Russia
The prosecution rests
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>>133180293
>The byline on the NYT story is a parade of fucking Pulitzers.

There were a parade of fucking pulitzers on every other fake russia narrative anyway.

These people care more about the U.S. siding with Russia in Syria and allowing Iran and Hezbollah to cooperate in threatening Israel than they do about their journalistic careers.By a lot.
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>>133180447
Infowars enthusiast detected
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>>133180175

>>As long as he offered no political favors,

Like a ceasefire in Syria that leaves Assad in power?

>>nor requested illegally obtained information

You mean like when Trump publicly request Russia hack into Hillary's servers and then release it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnY7D4M4k68
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>>133177459

>Something on the Clintons

How would this ever, ever be a bad thing? He should be praised as hero and we should be celebrating to finally be in Union with the Russians. Lets just fuck some shit up already, where the fuck is WW3.. The end of the world? 9/23/2017.. The (((HAPPENING))).. Nothing ever fucking happens but the Clintons, at least Hillary needs to be hanged. Just one crazy fuckin' thing in America in my lifetime is all I want.
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>>133175317
aaaand its nothing
>pic related, Sasha Richovich, the infamous russian hacker
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>>133180534
>allowing Iran and Hezbollah to cooperate in threatening Israel
Well yeah, because fuck Israel.
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>>133180222

>>Quite the opposite, he did deny her and instantly went to Congress to report this.

What? No he didn't, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>133177507
nah man, lord kek strikes without prejudice. Only suckers choose sides. Frogs are amphibious and won't sink with a ship. (Rats do however drown easily)
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>>133178873
This
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>>133180487

You ought to call your local police department and try to buy some cocaine, and see how that goes.
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>>133180474

Making shit up is making shit up, senpai.
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>>133180196
>No one gives a fuck about Hillary except you when you're trying to protect your orange boyfriend.
Really? Is that what you tell yourself? I suppose the constant chants of "lock her up" are difficult to hear when you're constantly shaking. lol Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't give a fat fuck about President Cheeto or you. Hilariously, the only thing I do care about is that disgusting HRC, slaver psychopathic whorebeast, getting what she deserves. Just because you sold your soul doesn't mean we all did, sugartits. You chose the wrong evil and now your literal hell on earth is coming up with new ways to defend the devil.
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>>133180606

>Hack into a server that is already bleach bitten.

Wew.
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>>133180474
The Russian bank connection to Trump's residence. The NYT was the one breaking that story and Comey confirmed that "No credible source could back that claim." This is one of the many stories that have ruined its reputation.
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>>133180685
Frogs that are traitors go down in history being fools though
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>>133180606
>i hope you find the emails
>i hope
>hope
Jump off a bridge retard and make sure to do a flip
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>>133180521

Having fantasy kangaroo court trials is a wierd coping mechanism for losing an election.
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>>133180571
>Infowars enthusiast detected

Only when I need a laugh. Although, I think Infowars is more credible than the NYT, WSJ, CNN or any other legacy media outlet. Hilariously so.
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>>133180521

Like I said, please try to run with that in court.
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>>133177589
You forgot Pence and Preibus are done with T and are revolting. Ryan and McConnell got their back, They will force Trump to resign so they could pass their tax cuts bitch.
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>>133180793
You're so far past the point of no return. Do you also think the world is flat or that chemtrails exist? I think your tin foil hat is a little tight.
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view confession here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9eC0O7DHZ0
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>>133180719

That's CNN, the Left equivalent of Fox News. I was not and would not defend them, but I do defend the basic veracity of reporting by the WP and NYT.

I know, for you, they are all interchangeable.
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>>133180789
>fantasy kangaroo court trials
Is that where Trump has been winning lately? Cause it sure as shit hasn't been actual courts.
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>>133180719

Pic related is CNN (who edit absolutely EVERYTHING THEY EVER FUCKING POST).

WaPo's problem is that they are trying to echo what CNN does. It is not a good look.
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fucking nothing-burger again.

>hay, I got dirt on someone you wanna meet?
>ok... I guess we'll see how big this might be
>speak on some random bullshit
>wtf, bye weirdo.
>lol... it was us the Democrats the whole time you fell right in out trap.
>lol we get impeach your father now
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i could tell a cop i was high as fuck yesterday and will probably get high as fuck again but i dont have any money on me and dont ask for favors so sorry i cant buy what hes offering me and he cant fucking touch me. i HAVE to make an exchange to commit the crime.
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>>133180606
>>>As long as he offered no political favors,
>Like a ceasefire in Syria that leaves Assad in power?

Ding ding ding.

And there it is boys. The kikes always let the veil slip eventually.

Sorry schlomo, you're gonna have to fight your own wars. We're not having a nuclear exchange with Russia over your shitty little apartheid state that doesn't even have any oil.
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>>133177638
I thought she would be locked up by now, Trump couldn't even do that. Fuck him and her.
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>>133180919
> Every court in the land overruled his idiotic actions
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>>133180919
>Is that where Trump has been winning lately? Cause it sure as shit hasn't been actual courts.

Muslim ban is currently in effect.

Gargle on my balls, globalist scum.
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>>133177182
Wait, what? Christopher Steele wasn't a foreigner using foreign government assets to write his debunked pissgate dossier? Are you retarded? Are you seriously going down this road? Do you really think Trump isn't playing you right now? You're making the case for all involved in the dossier to get locked up, you maroon.
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>>133180267
there is nothing to defend, she doesn't work for the kgb or the kremlin, nothing illegal happened. you really think that don jr got an email that said
'hey don, we have this kremlin insider that has juicy details from all the dnc emails we hacked, come one over and have a look :) '
the msm are on full damage control because the last few weeks have been really good for trump, jobs, g20, and the nothing burger. so once again the msm are doubling down on nothing hoping to conjure up something. by this time next week it will be some other story 'this is it, drumpf is finally finished'. go back 6 months and count every nonsense russian collusion story, how many has there been? 15-20? it's all bullshit.
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>>133180834
>>133180747
>>133180664
>>133180606
>>133180521


Tick tock, sweeties. Tick fucking tock.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-09/comey-bombshell-fbi-directors-leaked-trump-memos-contained-classified-information

“So you didn’t consider your memo or your sense of that conversation to be a government document?,” Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) asked Comey on June 8. “You considered it to be, somehow, your own personal document that you could share to the media as you wanted through a friend?”

“Correct,” Comey answered. “I understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. As a private citizen, I thought it important to get it out.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing classified information
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


https://vault.fbi.gov/miog/manual-of-investigative-operations-and-guidelines-miog-part-02-01-of-06/view

Tick fucking tock.
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>>133180912
If CNN is the left equivalent of Fox News, what's MSNBC?
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>>133175317
it's pretty obvious /pol/ has been too nice to shill faggots as of late. now the fuckin place is infested with 'em. yuk.
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>>133175744
Even better, now the Trump Administration can be charged with conspiracy, which doesn't even mean an action came out of the meeting.

Also they can be charged under 1088 for cyber attacks.

>>133176312
DTJ himself admitted to having the meeting and going to it because he expected to get dirt on Clinton. Also it was just released that they got an e-mail saying that the dirt came directly from the Russian government and the operative they met with was from the Kremlin, in other words, Putin.
DTJ planned on colluding with Putin.

DTJ = Huey
Putin = Cipher

DTJ is fucked unless he sells out his brother in law or father, or both.
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>>133181040
>Muslim ban is currently in effect.
They neutered the shit out of it pretty hard, m8.
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>>133181166
That's the funny part,
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>>133180951

>> i HAVE to make an exchange to commit the crime.

No, you don't. That's how stings work. That's how the pedos in "To catch a predator" go to jail even though they didn't actually molest a child. That's how the FBI arrests people for planning a terrorist attack without having to wait for them to bomb someone.
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>>133180367
1. There is no evidence he believed that she was Russian agent
2. I don't even know if she was
3. And as I said before tyw above two don't even matter if he didn't offer political favors in exchange for the info.


Though I don't think this has anything to do with hacking of any kind.
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>>133181045

They really are that blind to the trap president Trump has laid. This is truly the best timeline.
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>>133180474
>The NYT and WP definitely have leftist-centrist-globalist slanting but I can't remember them ever reporting something that was entirely false.
Nigger, they literally shilled for a presidential candidate so hard that they falsified their polling data by oversampling democrats to fit their expectations and desires.

You have been fucked with by psyops for so long you can't even tell what is the truth. Get help.
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>>133181040
The Supreme Court decided to allow some provisions to remain in effect while they review the case. There's a difference between that and the whole thing being decided.
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>>133181244
You're an idiot dude
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>>133180912

NYT I haven't had many problems with (but I don't read them voraciously)

WaPo went south after the Bezos sale, but you're right. The majority of my issue is with CNN, not the others.
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>>133176067
Donald Jr confirmed the source and the New York Times did such an ironclad story, the Trump Admin couldn't even use the 'fake news' meme. All they could say is 'we didn't commit a crime' and the real problem is the people who leaked out all the stuff we want to keep quite.
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>>133180897
Then why are you wasting your time? Here's why; because you have to convince me that shit isn't shit. You keep trying to polish that turd, but it will always be an obvious turd. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to know the legacy media blatantly lies constantly. It has no credibility left.

I hope the legacy media gets burned to the ground and once the entirety of those once-venerable institutions are smoldering ashes, I want the earth underneath to be salted. I want CNN, NYT, WSJ, etc to be historically referenced only as a footnote under corrupt institutions.
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>>133178625
>familiar with the email
>familiar with Comey's thinking
we've heard this before
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>>133181166
>They neutered the shit out of it pretty hard, m8.

It's fine. It's just like how Mexican illegal immigration dropped to 0 just because we started enforcing the law. We will have many fewer shitty third world muslims coming into the country as long as Teflon Don is deporting all their cousins and making them known they're not welcome.
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>>133181307
>The Supreme Court decided to allow some provisions to remain in effect while they review the case.

Which is all that was needed to put in place the extreme vetting that keeps all the turd world shitskins out.
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>>133181317

Explain how russia could have hacked into hillary's dismantled server that was in the fbi's possession. Tick tock.
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Are we being raided? This is starting to look like a raid.
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>>133181246
Polls have something called a margin of error, and NYT aggregated polls, they didn't run their own.

Yeah, the polls were off, but the NYT/WP didn't make up numbers out of thin air. They aggregated polling data from other sources and fucked up the analysis by not allowing for the possibility of a large-scale polling error. (This is why 538 was the closest--Nate Silver's model put more weight on the possibility of a margin-of-error swing in Trump's direction, and he took a beating for it from left media sources, too.)
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>>133181467
> Extreme vetting
>a few more CBP retards at entry points

Get fucked
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>>133181325

>ironclad story of no wrongdoing

Wow. Literally shaking in terror. Will he be imprisoned tonight? Or will they wait until tomorrow.
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>>133181200
You clearly dont understand how intent works
If you meet up with an undercover cop you have to pay them for it to be a completed deal and they can arrest you
if you meet up with an undercover in a sting operation get in their car tell them you want to buy drugs then change your mind and get out they cant arrest you unless you give them the cash
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>>133181200
>aggressively approach by a black man
>"hay want some drugs?"
>thinking quickly cause at least he's not robbing me, atm.
>"S-sure but I have to go home to grab my money, c-can you wait here?"
>get tackled and arrested a block away
>go to jail for intent to buy drugs.

Is how you think the law works?
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You don't have a problem w NYT publishing classified info on Flynn, only to see Flynn cleared by the FBI?
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>>133181623
They have to get the noose firmly around dozens of necks
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>>133181158
>when you want to believe anonymous so much that you think it's a fact.
I bet you unironically thought pissgate was real.
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>>133181559

Vetting happens long before anyone gets to a point of entry. The application process is about to become alot more difficult.

I really hope we add an extra fuck you and start importing all our refugees from white South Africans.

It's our country you communist piece of shit. Get the fuck out.
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>>133181725

They've all been doing shit like that for years now. Media believes themselves completely and fully shielded by freedom of the press. Thus far, they have been.
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>>133179454
>and how come Republicans always win the vote of the richer people?

because they cut taxes for billionaires
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DTJ hired a new lawyer, previous experience includes defending 4 out of the 5 major NY crime families.
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>>133179664
You have to be knowingly dealing with a foreigner, m8. The piss dossier was contracted to Fusion GPS, who then gave the job to Steele.

If anyone broke the law it was them, and Steele obviously since he had to know that shit was in connection with the elections.

The Dems and Republicans funding the dossier were working with Fusion GPS and likely had no idea where the info was coming from.
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>>133181857
>>133181623
>Can only deflect and lie because they can't handle the truth.

TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK
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>>133176133
If the plan is to say the Russian were gonna help reveal her crimes and that is illegal.... youre gonna need to do better than that.
>It's illegal to reveal my crimes to the voters
Yeah. That's a shit plan. Got anything better?
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>>133181725
I don't think you know what "cleared" means if you think Flynn was cleared of wrongdoing.
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>>133182044
A lawyer from the gambino trials, really, really honest guy
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>>133181982
take your meds, Obama leaf.
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>>133182152
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>>133181058
The leaked memo wasn't one of the classified ones and it being a government document doesn't make it a crime to leak it.

He would have been fired for doing so if he hadn't been fired days prior though.
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>>133181379
>Mexican illegal immigration dropped to 0 just because we started enforcing the law.
Or because it had been at zero since like 2010.
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>>133182152
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>>133182205
>He would have been fired for doing so if he hadn't been fired days prior though.

So what you're saying is that Trump surprise firing Comey for being a snake was the right thing to do.
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>>133181684
>>133181239
>>133181200
>>133181158
>>133181049
>>133180951
>>133180818
>>133180711

And if you show up to hear about some alleged cookies that were being given away, and then the cops weren't even the cops but some Russian bitch hired by the dnc to attempt to make trump look bad and you call the bitch out and don't even buy the cookies... well then what?

Welp- then Comey, Mccabe, Dws, and a whole lot of dems go to prison. That's what.
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>>133182103
>TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK

Aw... It's like watching an toddler try to wear adult shoes....
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>>133182404
Having trouble with that whole "cause and effect" thing, I see.
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>>133182313
>Or because it had been at zero since like 2010.

It wasn't at zero, King nigger was too lazy to count them.
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>>133182313
Terrible trolling. Too obvious. You need to tone it down and respond to just a few less posts; not all of them.
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>>133182450

>Welp- then Comey, Mccabe, Dws, and a whole lot of dems go to prison. That's what.

I want to believe senpai, but you don't know how much dirt I've seen.

All I'll say is, I hope the FBI really does get the mob out, for real this time.
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>>133182103
No, it's not deflection. When every time you hype up impeachment every time your masters hint at it, you are discrediting your cause.Your reputation regarding this matter is similar to that of a piss stain.

And even if I don't consider that, then the fact that you are basing your entire case on 3 anonymous sources that read a secret email is beyond desperate. You are retarded beyond compare.
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>>133182493
>Having trouble with that whole "cause and effect" thing, I see.

So now you're saying that Comey's testimony was mostly just sour grapes?
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>>133182326
>your life
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>>133177638
lol please that's the military industrial complex side to this whole shenanigan. Everyone is complicit because everyone complicit is profiting... Fuck MIC Fuck Trump Fuck Hillary Fuck Theresa May Fuck HSBC Holdings Fuck CIA and ESPECIALLY FUCK GOLDMAN SACHS
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>>133182205

Um, no sweetie. Government property that a former employee absconded with half of which contained classified information.

Comey will be ass raped in prison. Tick fucking tock.
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>>133181725
>Flynn cleared by the FBI?
Right, cause lying on SF-86 is totally something you can be cleared of doing when you lied on SF-86, the government has a copy of your SF-86, and there are public records of what you lied about on SF-86.

The prima facia case against Flynn for one of the felonies of which he is accused is literally fucking iron clad.

Not in jail yet!=cleared. Generally you are charged all at once in situations like this and the investigation isn't finished.
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>>133182639
He was free to release something that he felt should be released.
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>>133182185
Nigger for every slightly cringey trump supporter there's about 20 liberal trainwrecks.

Even ironically this is stupid.
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>>133182326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEJ-oeFsopA
If I weren't gay, I would be gay and would be gay for Donald Trump.
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>>133182874
>He was free to release something that he felt should be released.

And the president was correct to fire him for poor judgement in fanning the flames at the nothingburger grill.
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>>133178245
Please elaborate friend
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>>133182756
>your life
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>>133182843
>Government property that a former employee absconded with half of which contained classified information.
Four of the seven memos were classified, he only released one that wasn't.
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>>133182936
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>>133176171

the same people that say CNN is fake news are the same people that source CNN when it agrees with their opinion. learn to think for yourself Anon. calling anything you don't agree w as fake news is childish.
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>>133182590

It's happening. Why do you think there is so much desperate shilling. Dnc has been exposed. The entire russia hoax has been BTFO.
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>>133182843
>absconded
He was fired while in California. Kinda hard to not "abscond with government documents" when you're kicked out of government thousands of miles away from your office with said documents in your possession already.

What a retarded argument. Unless you're saying the head of the FBI can't have memos he wrote in his possession.
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>>133183110

>Dnc has been exposed. The entire russia hoax has been BTFO.

But it was like a year ago, anon. People take so long to catch up.
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>>133183021

Um no, sweetie. He had them in his person.

Tick fucking tock.
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>>133183107
>Implying I even hear what CNN has to say anymore.

Can't cite what I don't read.
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>>133183277
See
>>133183215
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>>133181792
Stop reading Louise Mensch. She's taking the mickey out of you.
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>>133183277
>in his person.
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>>133183366
He had to get them out of the building somehow.

It's not like he wrote them and therefore retained copies.
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>>133183001
>your life.
How do you what...again? make friends? get people to belive your bullshit?
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>>133183339
Eh, bitch has some good sources but too many false positives and paranoid accusations, I don't bother with her.
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>>133183366
Kinky af
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