>/pol/ will defend this

>>133170148
listen to shkreli explain how the system really works

nah, fuck the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries, and fuck the healthcare insurance industry

fuck em all, whole pile of greedy asshats

>>133170148
how many pills cure it? also why not just buy in India and ship it to usa... or better yet go on a vacation to India and get the pill why you are there.

>>133170266
>shkreli
Link pls?
I heard it as something to do with insurances or some shit like that.

>>133170148

Enforce USC15, Robinson Patman, and other antitrust/monopoly laws and this all goes away.

I should be able to order these drugs from India directly if I wanted.

National Socialists do not defend that.

>>133170374
Because if they catch you it is a felony

>>133170148
>HCV is spread primarily by blood-to-blood contact associated with intravenous drug use, poorly sterilized medical equipment, needlestick injuries in healthcare, and transfusions.

Let the degenerates die.

>>133170266
>>133170426
Plz link. I have heard all sorts of things about Shkreli, but want a video.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949

>>133170148
Actually, America subsidises pharmaceutical costs of the third world.
They charge us more because we can "afford" it.

>>133170148
India is full of poo so more hepatitis c

>>133170148

If you don't want Hep C perhaps you shouldn't be whoring around town like a fucking slag.

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>>133170148
1. Privatise everything
2. No more innefective ways to spend your money
3. No more recessions due to no keynesian bubbles
4. Long term profit, humans win through the universe domination win.

>>133170442
>implying the government would enforce antitrust laws against its own monopolies
LOL

Free trade solves this problem.

>>133170148
wtf, I love poo now

>>133170587
This.
Mother nature is really trying her best to kill 3rd worlders, why are we trying to stop this?

>>133171077
> Implying the govt will ever allow free trade
LOL

Those laws exist to FORCE free trade, you buffoon.

>>133171787
>punish companies for being successful
>free trade

>>133170374
>go to India
>cure your hep c
>but get hep a, b, d through z and 5 strains of HIV

>>133170374
There are a ton of poos here. Just get one of their cousins to bring it over in a tylenol bottle.

>>133170148
>implying you can't get fairly cheap medical coverage that makes prescriptions fairly cheap, or that there aren't generic versions of pretty much every medication that cost next to nothing

It's simple economics.

Nobody in the USA with healthcare is going to pay that much for a pill. Most insurance companies will negotiate down the price of the medicine. If they start at a higher price, they get more for the pill. I'm willing to be that insurance companies can talk the price down to a tenth of that. That's just how the system works.

Furthermore, the US pays more because the drugs are (typically) designed in the US and manufactured in the US. Someone has to pay the bill for all the research and development to advance medicine.

Once the medicine is developed, it costs nearly nothing to produce in mass which drives certain economic decisions. Obviously certain countries cannot afford multi-thousand dollar medicines, but when the pill itself only costs pennies to produce... selling it at any price over production costs is pure profit.

>>133170148
I work for pharma.

The reason for this is our company has to pay millions of $$ to develop a drug that might not work, or might not be approved, so the cost of that pilll you're buying has to pay for all the failures. In India, they steal the formula, and its all profit. The cost of any drug is almost nothing to produce,.

>>133170148
It's due to patents, which are socialist, without patents another maker would make the pill alot cheaper to oust competition

US companies spend millions and years on research and most dont get approved by fda. The ones that do are under patent if approved so some other company doesnt steal their work and undercut right away. remove that and research industry dies.

>>133170148
/pepehonesttragicteardropsandsweatofbludcuh

only reason it is that expensive is because somebody is willing to pay that amount. So something about the market is fucked up. We don't have a free market in the usa.
fix healthcare by eliminating taxation and most regulation.

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>>133170148
Actually it's promoting insanity like
>pic related
to increase healthcare costs in the US to absurd levels.

their shit currency passes the savings onto you

>>133170148

It has more to do with the structure of our healthcare system and insurance than "big pharma" per se. There are no incentives to keep costs low the way things are done in the states.

There's a great breakdown here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/opinion/health-insurance-american-medical-association.html?_r=0

inb4jew york times

>>133172398
Please archive or screenshot
https://archive.is/lxSEZ

>>133172141

Without patents nobody would have any incentive to invent anything unless they were able to completely hide their methods, which would be unrealistic (other people would likely duplicate the discovery or reverse engineer it) and hold back progress if successful.

>>133172223
>only reason it is that expensive is because somebody is willing to pay that amount

When you're facing death you become willing to take on any expense.

>>133172038
This

>>133170148
This is what happens when you don't have a free market

>>133172121
It's no use explaining economics to a leftist. They'd rather the drug didn't exist at all than it exist with perceived "injustice" tied to its pricing. This is a religion to them

>>133172632

I hope you become bankrupted by a disease.

>>133172437
fucking Norway

>>133172121
I work for pharma and that explanation is full of shit. If that was actually the case, drug prices would be calculated using the R&D/trials expenditure and the predicted rate of doses sold to recoup sunk costs over the lifetime of the patent. This of course is not what happens.

Drug prices are driven by two things: power and prizes. How much power does the drug give the company over the market? How big a prize is their discovery (ie treating a niche disease with unmet need allowing them to charge upwards of 80k/dose). At the end of the day, drug companies will charge the most they believe the market will bear.

Also tying into this is the fact that the majority of pharma growth in the last 10 years has been from increasing prices of existing drugs rather than new drug development.

shkreli gives his drugs away for free if you don't have insurance

he's actually the nicest drug guy in the business

so of course the media demonizes him

>>133170148
900 bux is poo life savings though isn't it?

>>133172398
Damn interesting article. So as per usual, (((they))) fuck us over and the government legislates to protect (((their))) interests. Fucking AMA kikes fucked everyone over.

>>133173148
bantz boi

>>133172121
A lot of Indian pharma orgs are playing fast and loose with the rules: poor hygiene, sourcing chemicals from dodgy providers and testing their product as many times to get the results they like. They expect nothing will come of it, because they would normally just bribe the local regulator. And everything works out, that is, until the FDA puts an Import ban on their drugs for adulteration. Then they just reorg, rinse and repeat.

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>>133172038
>Most insurance companies will negotiate down the price of the medicine.
They don't do that anymore because of Obamacare.
80-85% of premium revenue must be spent on care and quality improvement.

Example:
Premium revenue of $1000 a month.
Expenses of $800
$200 for everything else.

So the health insurance company decides to barter for cheaper medicine, what happens?
Premium revenue of $1000 a month.
Expenses of $600
$400 for everything else.

This violates the 80/20 rule, and the insurance company must refund these savings to the customer. Thus, there is absolutely no point in a health insurance company lowering costs.

What happens if pharmaceuticals raise prices? Initially, the health insurance companies are at a loss, so they have to raise premiums. However, what do you see?

Premium revenue of $1200 a month.
Expenses of $960
$240 for everything else.

Health insurance companies make more money as the cost of medical care rise because it allows them to increase premiums and subsequently the size of the 20% slice. This has created a feedback loop between medical care providers and insurance companies as they both make money when the price of healthcare rises. The people that lose are taxpayers who pay for subsidies and also the people who are forced to pay for health insurance.

>>133170148
THE PILL WAS MADE HERE! WE SUBSIDIZE THE ENTIRE WORLD YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!1!1!1!

>>133171924

It punished companies for doing the EXACT thing they are doing now in the Healthcare industry.

Racketeering, price discrimination, protectionist restrictions, etc.

Glad you are okay with that.

>>133172398
so the dems tried to create a foundation to build on existing legislation when the republicans wanted to make pretty something already standing but broke?

>>133173660
build on existing like add to it and the GOP wanted to fix it up

I'm libertarian but I support getting rid of crony capitalism. No guarantees that would lower the price though.

>>133170266
shkreli is a fuck and youre a weak tard for listening to him.

>>133170148
still wondering why people dont just go to india to buy it

>>133170266
It's funny how literally EVERY company was doing the same shit he was but he got branded as literally Hitler himself even after explaining why they do it

>>133170426
That's a part of it. Another part is that many of these companies are losing money. The cost of the pill goes toward future research.

>>133170148
No I won't, it's the whole root of the health care problem

If health care was less regulated drugs wouldn't be as expensive and healthcare would be 10x more managable

>>133170148
I think it's great. American companies develop new medicines funded by the American people's suffering, while our government ignores all those patents and grants free license to our companies to make generics. My grandfather has a lot of illnesses (including hepatitis C, liver cirrhosis) and takes about 5 different pills a day. If I was a burger I'd be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for his treatment, but here all his medicines combined cost about $100 a year. Medical devices like stents and catheters are next on the list for cancellation of patents. Price controls are already in, and when these companies refuse to sell them in India the government will allow generic devices as well.

So thank you americlaps, keep paying for the medical advances while we really the rewards. I'm not a fan of socialism, but it works in this case.

>>133173935
pore?

>>133173873
he knows it's true, he heard it on mainstream media

main causes of Hep-c

>drug use
>unprotected sex
>body modification (tattooing)

just dont be a fucking degenerate and you wont have to worry about it

>BUT I SHUD B ABEL 2 FUCK PROSTITUES RAW EVERYDAY ND NOT HAV 2 WORY ABOUT DISEASE
>faggots actually believe this

>>133170426
>>133170606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-U1MMa0SHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQUEvLIEKi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTNOWSKMS10

>>133170148
>/leftypol/ will refuse to name the ones responsible.
You know it's the jews.

>>133170148
India will actually have to pay $900

Americans will never pay and nobody will attempt to enforce it.

So suck it poos.

>>133170148
It's almost like we Americans are subsidizing the rest of worlds "free health care".

>>133173108
Shkreli is gaming the system same as everyone else. Basically the FDA wants old drugs to be taken through modern trials, and rewards people for doing so with regulatory property and marketing exclusivity, which has the same effect as traditional IP in that it allows companies to exclude competition.

So Shkreli and other people like him (tons of people are doing this) buy up an old generic drug that has been around for decades, run it through modern trials which is basically guaranteed to succeed since the drug has been in use for so long, and get rewarded with an exclusive economic bubble that allows them to jack the price to whatever they want.

They justify this by saying the costs are eaten up by insurance companies, but the net result of multiple companies doing this for multiple drugs have had a major effect in driving up insurance costs across the board. Insurance companies will never pay out more than they get. If drug companies up their prices, insurance companies charge more to compensate.

>>133170148
>he's hiding behind a meme flag
Day of the rake soon, dogfucker

This is clearly abuse.
Put it on a scale.
On one side, you have the wholly unnecessary loss of life and well-being.
On the other side, you have something else.

The question isn't about "that something else" the question is HOW DO YOU ENACT JUSTICE AND CURE THE CURABLE ILL

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You have to understand that (((pol))) will always side with the mega corporations and billionaire globalists

>>133170587
> degenerates
you don't understand how pricing/taxes work. people without insurance get these 80k meds for free and your taxes and insurance premiums go to paying for them.
So if anyone without insurance needs that pill, we all pay for it.

>>133174855
who exactly do you think decides the CEO's salary?

Allow reimportation to get those prices. Abolish FDA to get 5 steps ahead. Done and done.

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>>133175091
other billionaires

>>133175115
>Abolish the FDA

I don't think that's a good idea, but there's definitely gotta be a way to drive the price down for FDA approval (currently like a billion dollars)

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>>133174855
>/pol/ sides with globalist

>>133170148
>cure
>virus

>>133170148
> implying it's the same pill

> The FDA, which has been on a campaign to get Indian drugmakers to conform with its regulations, slapped Unimark Remedies with another warning letter in which it cited two of the Mumbai-based drugmaker’s plants for keeping poor records, failing to train employees properly, and unsanitary conditions.

Last fall, the company was hit by a warning letter by the regulatory agency at a separate facility for similar infractions, which included pigeon nests in the building and a lizard roaming in a controlled area.

In the most recent warning letter, during an inspection of the company’s Bavla facility in August 2015, FDA officials “observed dirt and birds in the manufacturing area as well as a lizard in the controlled processing area.”

http://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/fda-again-slaps-indian-api-maker-unimark-remedies-warning-letter-over-records-pests

> During the plant inspection, staff were found in multiple instances deleting data and one quality-control employee “admitted plans to fabricate sample preparation data,” the FDA’s letter said.

> Besides failing to have a pest control program, the warning letter to Unimark Remedies in Mumbai cited the drugmaker for a host of record-keeping issues that have come up commonly among inspections of Indian facilities. Records were not filled out when batches were being produced. There were records purportedly signed by employees on dates that they weren't even there.

>>133170148
Nice flag.

>>133174392
I legitimately that the only reason people go after him and ignore all the other companies doing it is because he looks like a beady little fuck

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>>133175337
>pol brags about helping elect a billionaire globalist elite

>>133170148
One of the reasons, I didn't fall for the American meme.

Life is good in India if you make decent amount of money.

>>133175337
Is there ever a time when /pol/ doesn't side with the giant corporations?

>>133175085

>you don't understand how pricing/taxes work. people without insurance get these 80k meds for free

No, only stabilizing healthcare is provided regardless of ability to pay back.

>>133172141
this is true. patents are a very socialist idea. we need to do away with them.

>>133174855
which ones are jews?

>>133175768
wut? so u think that they refuse treatment without pay? what if they were bleeding out and needed an 80k emergency peration? do you think they just tell them to leave the hospital?

>>133175483
This. Plus, he openly insulted a bunch of congressmen and federal prosecutors, so they're going to be looking for any reason to put him in prison regardless of if the current charges stick. Not the smartest move.

>>133170148
yeah no shit india pushes cheaper drugs, they are also of lesser quality

>>133170266
ur fucking idol is about to see jail time lmao lets all take advice from him

>>133170266
>Yes goy listen to (((shkreli))) he tells the truth, there is no "conspiracy" that's just the way it works
How you so called anti semites support capitalism is fucking beyond me

>>133175483
He also puts himself in the public light giving the unwashed masses a target

>>133175557
nice lies pajeet.

>>133175293
The problem isn't the cost of trials, it's the myriad of ways to abuse the well intended regulatory framework for drug IP while jacking up prices. The majority of pharma growth comes from price hikes, with drug prices rising 8x the rate of inflation.

Here's how it's supposed to work: pharma company develops a drug, spends money taking it through trials. They then get a patent on the drug allowing them an exclusive market space to profit off the drug for 10 years, while using profits to develop new drugs. When the patent expires, the drug goes generic and becomes cheap.

In reality, pharma companies charge as much as the market will bear for their drugs, regardless of development costs, and game the system to prevent generics from driving prices down. A major way they do this is through filing frivolous requests to stop the generic, relying on the bureaucracy of the FDA to slow down the generic company. They will file a request asking the FDA to deny the approval of the generic. This will be denied, but will take 6-8 months to do so. They will file frivolous patents (ie adding a useless gel capsule and re-patenting). This will be thrown out, but the court case will take 4-6 years. A blockbuster drug will do 50-100 million in sales every month.

They also take advantage of marketing exclusivity to put their drugs in what is called "closed distribution" which prevents generic companies from accessing the drug. This makes it impossible for generic companies to run comparison tests to show their generic is biocompatible, blocking them from taking the generic to market.

The solution to drug prices is to close loopholes in FDA regulations that allow for abuse of their system.

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>>133175866
don't be anti-Semitic

>>133174392
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQUEvLIEKi0 [Remove]
That pepe pin

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>>133174651
And statists will never admit the solution is abolishing illegitimate institution like the FDA that have no legal right to exist under the American legal system, which would cause the price of drugs to completely plummet.

And since poisoning people is already illegal without the FDA(crazy I know) they wouldn't be able to just dump garbage into the market without repercussions. The regulations actually ALLOW them to poison people and not be punished.

>>133176059
He is not a jew, his parents are Albanian and Croation.

>>133176050
>pharmacuetical
>lesser quality

stfu nigger

>>133176059
you know in socialism when they talk about power to "the people" what they really mean is power to the state. it's the corrupt state seizing control of industry and property and then you just trust the government not to fuck you over.

every socialist is a useful idiot

deep down you know this, but you want to believe

so the solution is to give more power to the politicians and let them run things?

>>133176336
>Albonigger
>Somehow better than a Jew
Plus, even if he's not a jew by ethnicity or religion, he is one by character. Greedy, disgusting, walks over people for profit, wants control. Literally traits of a Jew. Give me a self respecting hard working family man that isn't a greedy cunt that just happens to be ethnically Jewish over "Non-Jews" like Shkreli any fucking day.

I will say though i enjoy his banters, he's funny as hell

>>133176029

If they're bleeding out then the hospital must treat them. They must provide STABILIZING treatment due to federal law. This means shit like treating acute trauma, getting your heart rate and blood pressure stable if it's out of whack, or helping to birth a baby. But they do not have to provide therapies such as chemo or indeed, this hepatitis medication without being paid.

>>133170148

who paid for the research, testing, and frankly bribery for the pill to be on the market?

>>133174293
no, ive been in livestreams with the guy and watched his youtube channel. the financial advice stuff was cool. everything else i saw, especially yhe stream where he was proposing to buy 4chan, exhibited an utterly petulant brat. he throws frequent tantrums and spends a lot of energy on revenge for petty insults. yhe guy is a greedy fuck and i dont buy his shit. also he listens to nigger music.

>>133176547
>Talking to a fucking NazBol about muh big bad state
Go fuck yourself lolbertarian, your meme strawman based ideology is of very little concern to me

>>133176059
because most the anti semites on this board are very poorly educated. even by American standards.

>>133171787
How so?

>>133176166
Sometimes you need to listen to the truth too my friend.

The world is just not US.

>>133176749
Meaning they are only anti-simetic because Hitler was and that's edgy

>>133170148
the ones from india are toxic and nobody will buy them on the international market anymore. china and canada did 1 time years ago and have refused to continue to do so

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>>133174092
>Yes we are losing money, goy
>um, it appears you hired some overseas research company 20 billion dollars for no results
>Yes, because of that, we can't afford taxable profits ;_;

kys

>>133172844
Don't be mad. NYTimes is owned by JEWS and FREE MASONS

>>133176170
Other games they play:

There's pay for delay, where a pharma company will pay a generic company to delay release of the generic for a period of several months.

There's authorized generics. The first company to take a drug generic gets a 6 month exclusivity period. A pharma company selling a drug will establish their own generic company to sell their own drug as an "authorized generic", effectively getting another 6 months of monopoly.

Abuse of the FDA's Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategies program is also used to prevent generic companies from doing bioequivalence testing. These rules prioritize giving drug access to patients who will benefit from the drug and prevent access for patients who wont, which is a good thing. But these rules are abused to bar generics companies from getting samples of a drug to conduct their own tests to keep a generic from coming to market.

It all boils down to gaming the system to extend a temporary monopoly as long as possible.

>>133170148
>Go to India
>Buy the 900$ pill
>Use the 82,000$ left to travel the world.

>>133176627

1. that free surgery is subsidised by tax payers and people who pay for insurance.
2. anyone who makes less than 16k a year is entitled to medicais, i.e. free healthcare.

>>133170148
Price = Demand
India doesnt have a bunch of crack heads or tinder bitches spreading it everywhere.

>>133176314
so far I'm in agreement EXCEPT how to answer the question of "how do you pro-actively prevent people from being poisoned"

despite the major problems of its existence, as you so well describe, it seems to be the only possible way

>>133177625
india has more people shitting on the street everyday than there are people in the us

there are far more sick people. trust me

>>133177662
fuck gingermod

>>133177776
>>133177777
>>133177778

Well where's the source to this claim here??

>>133170148
There is only one wrong thing: intellectual property.

People shouldn't be able to own ideas.

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>>133170148

>/pol/ will defend this

I'm a free market capitalist, so why would I?

According to my ideology the government should be allowing the import of those $900 pills which would force our own drug companies to compete and drive the price down.

What you've got there is an example of cronyism and government meddling creating a monopoly that eliminates free market competition and fucks the consumer.

>>133176744
>meme strawman based ideology
More like reality based on every single socialist country to ever exist.

>>133170148
POO

>>133170148
India where people bathe in same water as they shit, and leave their families corpses?

>>133178479
*le tips fedora*
epicly meme'd good sir xD

>>133178450
Ok i am a socialist but i agree with this. The only reason USA doesn't have universal healthcare is because it's not capitalist enough. Big Pharma has a virtual monopoly on any and all medical appliances and drugs in the entire country and with such little competition they can set prices however high they want, and, when your life literally depends on a certain drug you will find a way to pay. Increase competition, drive the price down making healthcare in general helluva lot cheaper, allowing you for the price of medicare and medicaid to have basically free universal healthcare. Or just nationalize the drug industry and eliminate the problem alltogether, but that's too commie for yall amerifats so the first solution seems a lot more plausable.

>>133170148
>this is what happens when you actually have to develop the drugs and test them instead of ripping them off

>>133173369
Underrated.

>>133170148
No that's what happens when everybody buys things with insurance

>>133174440
Jewish capitalists.

>>133173935

As I stated above, its a felony to do that

>>133170266
many people had emailed him about getting the free drug he said all of them said he didnt reply to any of them.
shkerli is a fucking kike and only say those things to look nice. he sucked /pol/ dick so we can meme him to be /ourguy/ so we can forgive his kikery.

>>133175293
>
You're wrong, its a GREAT idea

>>133170587
my neighbor was an officer in a federal prison who got Hep C from one of the inmates. iirc the inmate got stabbed or some shit and the blood got onto the officer, who had a cut on his finger or something.

>>133173553
And yet the government does nothing hmmmm... in a free society you'd be buying the pills in India and selling them here for $9500. Guess who stops that? Mayhaps it's the government. You know, because it's the centralization of power sanctioned by "legitimate" use of coercion?

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>>133178775

The USA's healthcare is an unholy union of capitalism and socialism.

You've got the inefficient centralized government controls of a socialist system; but you still have the private ownership and for profit model of a capitalist system. Combine that with things like medicare, medicaid and the Obamacare mandate that effectively force consumers to spend their money on healthcare products without any incentive to shop around for lower prices and the end result is a cronyist system where the drug and healthcare industry are protected from the free market competition and controls that should drive the price down to a level that consumers are willing to pay for.

Its the worst of both worlds, inferior to both a single payer system or a true free market system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnS96NVlMI

>>133170374
Grey market drugs are not approved by the FDA and are illegal on US shores. If you want to do it cheap you have to stay there until you're cured.

>American company invests tens of millions in developing drug
>sells it at price which factors in "brain capital" as well as funding for future research
>poo in loo company gets a hold of patent and reproduces drug since India is a lawless shithole
>sells it for way less since they didn't invest dick in it

OMG BEG FARMA!!!11!1!!1!

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>>133174058
>actively go out of your way to be an antagonistic prick instead of doing your best to stick to the shadows and be as unintrusive as possible beyond making costs rise
>why did people suddenly treat him as the face of capitalist excess at the expense of folk's lives?

>>133179373
this desu

if anyone, individual or an insurance company, has demonstrated willingness to pay the asking price that is what it will be.

>>133170442
you can. my neighbor orders 300 2mg xanax from singapore. they are legit and come right in the mail in a manilla envelope

>>133180148
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.

>>133176314
>Th@ image
Strange how things turn around in the public eye

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>>133170148
Ban direct to consumer pharmaceutical advertising.

>>133180043

Yep, Poor Johnson and Johnson only made $12 billion PROFIT in 2016. Thats after it takes out drug costs, research, manufacture...$12 billion PROFIT.

Dem poor pharma companies, they barely break even.

>>133179692
My neighbor was an officer in a federal prison. He got Hep C from anal intercourse with an inmate. At least that is what he said. I would imagine it was just from all the anal intercourse he had in forest preserve parking lots.

>>133170148
No this is what happens when you have a system where prices are fluid and can be pulled out of ass

Hospital doesn't list price
>Insurance 1: I will pay 100 dollars for this procedure
>Insurance 2: I will pay 500 dollars for this procedure
>The Government: I'll give you a penny for this procedure

So the hospital bills 5000 dollars in order to get the most out of all companies as each company will only give them a portion of that.

HOWEVER they also bill individuals 5000 and they have no means of saying, "I'm only going to pay X for this" so they are stuck paying the entire 5000.

This could all be lessened GREATLY if Hospitals/Doctors were forced to list their prices in as seen is taken manner

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>>133180493
>Shut it down
Selling people things they need is profitable?

I usually go to doctor, get prescription, travel to Mexico, buy $160 pill for almost 10 dollars. God i love mexico

>>133180220
If they caught him, he'be charged with a Felony

How hard is this to understand?

maybe you shouldn't be a poor faggot

>>133180853
Actually that's just for health care not pharma, but the same concept applies to an extent though Pharma would require government intervention and regulation as they can strong arm insurance companies as they will be the only providers for drugs.

It is a companies job to make their money back with as big of a profit as possible and Pharma has a monopoly and can do it locally.

Prices are cheaper over seas because they tend not to have patents their or they just won't pay more than X. So to recupperate these differences they take it out on the less secure

>>133181150
>hurr durr mayb u shouldn b such a pur feggit

Not everyone is as fortunate as you obviously are.

I went to india and sold vitamin pills as antibiotics. Made a fortune lol

>>133176059
He isn't actually a kike. Yes I was surprised too.

>>133170148
and charlie gard is what happens when the govt pays for ur health insurance

>>133181446
You realize that the opinion of a poor is literally meaningless, right?

>>133170148
Poo-in-Loos make 1$ per day.

>what is inflation?

>>133173553
>protectionist restrictions

Those are good though, you globalist cuck. Trade protectionism helps out the local labor unions that you love to suck-off. The Dems used to support trade protectionism until it become more lucrative for them to pander to Mexicans.

>>133170148
Governments should never have the power to influence drug prices like that in any way in the first place. Take away power from the FDA and reduce regulations we'd all be a lot better

>>133170148
>>133176346
He has a point, though. Isn't India a shitty country to live in?

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>>133170148
shitty shill thread

>>133170148

> harder for an Indian to get $900 than for an American to get $100k

>>133173553
Large companies love regulations. It kills their competition, allowing them to jack up prices. Without our ridiculous amount of regulations, companies would be forced to lower prices or go out of business.

>>133174107
That's not socialism. That's India taking advantage of free market economics. On the burger side, it's more corporatism than socialism...but I guess I'm splitting hairs there. Carry on.

>>133174536
Why wouldn't Americans pay? We already have a shit ton of people who go to Mexico for dental care because it's just as good but cheaper.

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>>133170148
No

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>>133176059
He was a catholic growing up.

>>133183348
I repeat do not join discord servers being posted on pol. There has been fags recently trying to fuck with people on pol, by trying to get their location or some crap.

>>133174855
So, someone gets it done or not. Whats your Point?

>>133170148
(((Patents))) absolutely btfod

>>133170148
difference between those who make $1000 a year and those who make $80,000

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>>133170148
buy the pill from india, capitalism ho

>>133170148
>what is recouping research, development and manufacturing costs vs ripping off research