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Fuck Big Pharma

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>THC, LSD, DMT, MDMA
Drugs that open the mind, help with debilitating disorders in a safe and effective manner with little to no potential for abuse, all are illegal Schedule 1 drugs that carry hefty punishments
>Cocaine, Oxycodone, Benzodiazapines, Ambian, Methamphetamine, SSRIs
Drugs with high potential for abuse and addiction that come with horrifying and mind/body destroying side effects and withdrawals. All completely legal that get handed out like candy by "professional" psychiatrists and pain doctors.

How can this be seriously justified in 2017? Big government totalitarians like the DEA and Jeff Sessions want to deny millions of Americans medicine that opens doors to relief rather then owning up to big pharma. Shills need not apply.
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*dies of diabetes*
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>>133128677
jews
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*dies of a blood clot because OP banned aspirin.*
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>>133129293
Drugs that have proven effectiveness and safety profile are completely fine. Why is it so hard for people to differentiate the dangers between Aspririn and shit like Amphetamine, Prozac and Seroquil? Americans eat them all the same.
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>>133128677
ecstasy makes you fucking gay quicker than paxil
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>>133129293
>blood clot
>aspirin
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>thc has no potential for abuse
uhh, yes it does
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>>133131766
Yeah because THC withdraw is just like Benzo withdraw. Minor hunger pains vs seizures and death, hmmmmm exactly the same.
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>>133131556
It's a blood thinner.
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>>133131766
nah man, it totally doesn't bro, like for real man. I can quit at any time dude, and it doesn't affect me negatively at all. The fact that I'm a lazy ass worthless fucktard with no ambitions and a severely reduced cognitive ability is completely unrelated bro.
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did 2grams of mushrooms yeaterday

bretty good desu

walked around with my dog and got away from the propoganda box sitting on my ass
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>>133132307
>Yeah because THC withdraw is just like Benzo withdraw. Minor hunger pains vs seizures and death, hmmmmm exactly the same.
none of that is related to 'potential for abuse'
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>>133132515
OK.
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>>133128677
>THC, LSD, DMT, MDMA
Drugs can leave you with damaged/impaired brain for life/long period and massively increasing risk for psychotic episodes
> "open mind"
If you think that you become extra clever under influence under these drugs you have to be cuckoo in your head already
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>>133133413
have you done these substances?
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I've been to Amsterdam multiple times and I've smoked their weed on every occasion. It only makes me feel depressed and has no positive effect other than increasing loss of my long-term memory. Stop making up shit. You've never tried it.
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>>133133508
i've done quite alot and had a psychotic episode

>mfw cant smoke weed anymore
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>>133133568
It's a meme drug for blacks.
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>>133133508
unfortunately yes, and it left me with couple psychotic episodes from the use of these drugs, memory is impaired too, i wish i had found scientific papers on all this shit and the damage it does, but i was like OP shilling for weed and rest of the shit, thinking that restrictions on these substances are just stupid, because they "open mind"
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>>133133508
i had to quit all the shit, even smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol and start working out just to get back to normal, and it too lots of time to do that
I started feeling normal after 3 or so years after trying to get back to how it was before the use
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>>133128677
>>133133568
Yeah op, you've never done a marijuana 3 whole times. You're not a badass like me desu.

You should try smoking sometime for real, bud. Might just make you a little less of an ignorant asshole
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>>133133914
>>133134144
Those are just your fucked up expirences, probably with high doses for an extended period of time. Of course you can fuck your self up by doing something as stupid as abusing non-addictive substances. No one here gives a shit about your "advice" you weak minded shill.
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I took a lot of LSA once and forgot how to piss also everything in my peripherals looked like a Monty python cartoon . overall it was good fun but gave me anxiety and a massive hangover
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>>133135208
if you think that those substances are non-addictive then you are weak minded yourself, because it seems that you cant read scientific articles with shitloads of proof behind them, you degenerate bro science tier shill
Dick for you desu, enjoy it
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>>133133508
i have, and what the dude is saying is true, i jumped off that train at the last second, but am still kinda being dragged by it in a way
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daily reminder for retard hippies that weed is not banned because you retards would smoke it.
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LSD is not safe

T. Northern cali hippy /pol/ock
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>>133136683
yea nothing's worse then looking up at the stars and going on long peaceful walks
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>>133136683
Can you expain why?

I always hear old hippies say this but it has no ill effects on me. I'm 35 and have dosed 50+ times
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>>133137052
yeah, and making your brain over active in certain regions that for days to come after the trip brain is having hard time to recover, because your synapses are fried up
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>>133137210
hes lying
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>>133128677
DUDE WEED
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>These drugs are okie doke
>high chance to induce psychotic episodes, basically mind destruction
properly used amphetamines are a much greater boon to society than muh psychodellies.
SSRI's are over prescribed but does have use in numbing feelings for those in deep depression. Most people do not have that level of depression.
benzo also have a use, they actually work unlike other anti anxiety meds.
I seen seroquel mentioned and I have a personal hate for it. shrink gave me 12.5mg and in 3 days fucked up my bodies ability to regulate blood pressure aka Big time orthostatic hypotension.
Lastly Modafinil/adrafinil is god tier
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>>133137210
Its like being retarded.You dont know it,but everyone else.
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>Drugs that open the mind
Dude weed LMAO
*gets schizophrenia*
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>>133133350
>OK.

This retard thinks he knows what hes talking about after watching 2 seasons of House.
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>>133137693
If i get mental problems of weed you probably just have autism
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>>133137693
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>>133136437
Addicts with form addiction with any substance. You think gamers aren't addicted? Maybe we should ban games too. Hell lets ban any scientific studies linking games with addiction while were at it. Open and shut case Johnson.
Also, go build some roads and get off this anime image board why don't you.
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Is there even such a thing as a girl who doesn't do drugs and isn't a massive fucking attention whore and cock whore in general???
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>>133133508
i've been to psychiatric wards for involuntary 72 hour holds after bad trips before
you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about and seriously underestimate the gravity of the risks you are taking by ingesting these chemicals
have you ever believed, accepted, and prepared yourself for the fact that you're about to die?
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>>133137693
If a psychoactive drug made you schizophrenic, I've got good news for you. It just because you're whore of a mother gave you the disorder genetically, there was no escaping it friendo.
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>>133133914
its not about opening the mind. its about exploring the human condition. its about being free to ingest and experience what you want on your terms
>pic related
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>>133129940
Which include every drug you listed in your OP.
>Cocaine, Oxycodone, Benzodiazapines, Ambian, Methamphetamine, SSRIs
>No proven defectiveness and safety profile.
Except they do..
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>>133138010
you're a next level of autist if you think addiction to video games can be remotely compared to addiction to drugs
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>>133138126
you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about and seriously underestimate the gravity of the risks you are taking by ingesting these chemicals
have you ever believed, accepted, and prepared yourself for the fact that you actually will die some day and any attempt to hide that fact from your consciousness will only make it worse?
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>>133138418
same mechanism, different degree
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>>133133508
>Anecdotal evidence is weighted heavily while trials are discarded
Just sage this troll.
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>>133128677
Cannabis/THC is from the earth and was not engineered by anyone other than God Himself.

The same goes for psilocybin/psilocin, it's directly from the earth.

However, during the early parts of the book of Genesis, God gives all seed-bearing plants for mankind's usage.
Cannabis produces seeds.
Mushrooms, do not bear seeds but spores - making this a ethical grey area for many Christians.

LSD, MDMA, Cocaine and DMT (Ayahuasca to some extent) are all crafted by men and require some type of refining process.

And as most everyone here should already know - LSD was helped along in its creation by the CIA - which should send off multiple red flags right there considering the downfall of America occurred during the 1960's.

Allopathic medicine has its positive sides as well - it's typically far stronger than herbal medicine, which can be both a blessing and a curse.

A healthy diet, plenty of exercise and prayer should be staple drugs in everybody's life in order to prevent illness in the first place.
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>>133128677
What a repulsive whore
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using psychadelics in moderstion isnt going to fry your brain anymore than looking at computer screen 40 hours a week shit
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>>133138126
wow man... really just wow. YOU have psych issues not the vast majority of people who take these substances which positive impacts on their life.
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>>133138010
>gamers addicted
wew lad are you a baby boomer by any chance ?
do you even science, you know how addiction mechanism works ?
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>>133138650
what about wine?
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>>133138221
another new age whacko
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>>133138471
No shit Plato, I was referring to the seizure-like tremors and OBEs and other physical effects of LSD that nobody ever talks about that can make you think you're about to die from what you took
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>>133133914
>i wish i had found scientific papers that don't exist to confirm my earnest belief that these drugs cause my rampant mental sickness and that it isn't a product of my irresponsibility, behavior, upbringing or genetics
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>>133138891
Great, a non argument.
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>>133129060
/thread
they think they are the chosen ones of "god", of course they deny any other spiitual experience and condemn heavily the "goyim" try to discover the structure of reality.
Ayahuasca is one hell of a drug
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>>133138650
Gtfo with your imaginary friend
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>>133138650
only partly true all pot today has been extensively genetically modified. its not even close to how it used to be. so much stronger now
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>>133139100
yea cus self thought is totally new age

and lots not forgot our favorite leader was a meth addict, but you would all put Hitler up on a pedestal at the drop pf a hat
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>>133139032
What do you think it's made off retard
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>>133139126
change the setting go on a fucking walk
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>>133139131
enough
>>133139284
ENOUGH
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>>133139126
Oh right of course you were, how in the world didn't I get that from you Platonic rant.
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>>133139333
fermented grapes through means of human interaction ie like ayahuasa
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>>133139100
nice. i guess we don't like freedom around here. im not new age either just fyi. that quote is not new age. you are ridiculous
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>>133136657
This is like big oil covering up alternative energy when they can just as easily purchase a monopoly in those sectors like they are doing now. They have nothing to fear so I think its stupid to say so
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>>133128677
op dont listen to these fear mongers, they are self ritious pricks who are totalitarian in nature

find a good setting and do a dose, stay away from hard drugs that cause physical addictions and do psychadelics in moderation

fuck these shills
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>>133133508

>Have you jumped of a cliff?
>Then how do you know it will not give you super powers?

You druggies are so mentally challenged.
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>>133128677

>advocating for recreational THC use

Look at that fucking girl in your picture OP. Basically naked, tall bottle of alcohol with some dirty looking package on the table. You can tell she has absolutely no aspirations in life other than getting as high as possible at that moment in time.

Disgusting.
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>>133139758
these is fucking retarded
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hallucinogens give you magic powers meme. hunter thompson hated pricks lke you and so do i.
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>>133139032
>>133139516
The bible condemns drunkenness.
Ayahuasca puts people into altered states of minds they can't control on purpose from what I hear.

>>133139179
Are you sure they didn't just get better at breeding them?
I've never heard of it actually being genetically modified by scientists.
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>>133139758
well you take the fucking retard cake for anything i'll read today. have a (you)
you deserve it
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>>133128677
Smoked weed while being depressed, got severe depersonalization disorder which only got better after a year on SSRI. Fuck you and your drugs, kys.
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>>133139981
>having religious experiences

so bad
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>>133139848

>these is fucking retarded
>these
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>>133140051
I've had religious experiences without drugs.

Ever felt the holy spirit invade your entire being?
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>>133137435
Tried lsd 3 times, woke up fine the next day, however i believe it has impacted my memory
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>>133140182
yes i have

thanks mushrooms
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>>133140015
Describe your depersonalization, Hans
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>>133138650
Everything is technically natural as all substances come from other substances that exist in nature. You take other naturally grown substances designed by God and make yourself. As we are all made in God's image and he is the almighty creator, it is only natural that we ourselves designed by God are creators out of his own designs.
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>>133139981
absolutely sure , quick internet search will show you that almost all strains on the markwt today have at least 1-2 extra chromosomes and a much higher thc content. genetically modified with alot of chemicals as well. pot used to grow in ditches and would only get you high from a couple grams of smoking but now you take 2 or 3 puffs and you're in it for 4 to 6 hours
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eat shrooms, see god
avvabump ye ol' chapy
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>>133137560
Why are you taking drugs you wank. They're robbing you
>>133138650
Poisonous toxins are also created by God and nature. Doesn't mean I'd recommend you take it
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Something something pineal gland

Most people turn into smarmy faggots after they see the ant people tho
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>>133140264
I feel detached from the world as if it was all imaginary/dreamlike. I realized how empty and worthless it is, with shit made-up just to stop sheeple from killing themselves or each other.
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>>133140068
cancer..... fuck
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>>133138650

>A druggie protestant

Why am I not surprised?
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>>133140609

>these is fucking retarded
>an argument
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>>133138650
>Mushrooms, do not bear seeds but spores - making this a ethical grey area for many Christians.
This has been debated to end even in the Bible itself, right down to the consumption of blood. Just eat the fucking thing.
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>>133128677
MOMMY I WANT MILKY
MILKY MILKY MILKY!
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>>133140721
no if you had basic reading comprehension you would understand. you probably should have stayed in school.
>YOUR ARGUMENT WAS BAD
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>>133128677
>Cocaine, Methamphetamine completely legal that get handed out like candy

Yea buddy, I wish
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>>133140551
That sounds like a healthy relationship with reality.

Depressing, nonetheless.
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>>133141007

>Can't even capitalize the first letter in a sentence.
>Talking about staying in school.

Also, have you tried it is not an argument either.
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>>133141184
its a fuggin Taiwanese button collecting board.

half of us r typing on a phone while this neet sits at home eating his tendies that his mom cooked for him

neet go to a party, take some acid fug a 3d gurl, and get out of construct of ignorance
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>>133141184
>HAVE YOU JUMPED OFF A CLIFF?
.THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WILL NOT GIVE YOU SUPER POWERS?
you're argument is so weak you arent even making sense anymore so you just have to resort to grammar bullshit on a fucking image board.
>t.reddit
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>>133128677
>LSD, DMT, MDMA
>safe

BUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

you twat, if blazer acted like normal rational people, weed would be legal 40 years ago but becouse of this stoner faggotry and infantility people think you are trash
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>>133141518

>half of us r typing on a phone
I can tell
>neet go to a party, take some acid fug a 3d gurl, and get out of construct of ignorance
>Call me a neet
>Is a fucking druggie

Do you even know what a neet is?
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>>133141718
its you
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>>133128677
>safe and effective manner
Damn, we lost (OP).
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>>133141594

>He can't even tell the difference between an argument and mockery of a shit tier argument

I swear I would toss druggies in a gas chamber but you would probably find a way to get high on chlorine.
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>>133141775

>No u
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DAILY REMINDER

UPPERS ARE THE WHITE MANS DRUG OF CHOICE. ONLY SHITSKINS LIKE DOWNERS
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>>133136437
Link me a source
Everything I've read says that lsd is essentially perfectly safe as long as you aren't already crazy
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>>133128677
>>133141609
>LSD

THERE LITERALLY ISNT A MORE BLUEPILLED DRUG THAN LSD.

weed, Im ambivalent, but chemical trippy drugs are for idiots.

>tfw LSD was literally invented by CIA

druggie faggots cucked.
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>>133140426
>God gives all seed-bearing plants for mankind's usage.
Of course not all plants are meant for human consumption.
However, God has given us the non-consumable plants for human usage.

Liking turning logs into paper or cannabis into clothing.

>>133140622
How do you know I'm not a Rastafarian?
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>>133141718
you are going to get BTFO ITT. you should probably leave if you don't like drugs. btw i know lots of people who are pretty open minded that don't do drugs. you are just a close minded fear ridden soul. i hope you can move past that fear one day and enjoy life for what it is.
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>>133138028
There is but girls who do drugs do fall under the things you mentioned. No exceptions.
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>>133141922
nice try kiddo
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ITT: Neets who cannot handle a psychedelic trip because of their fee fees are too hard to handle while under a substance that show what kind of human being you really are.
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>>133141994
that is the truth these guys just think its degenerate so they will argue with you all day
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>>133128677

Where can I get my legal cocaine

blz resbond
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>>133142306
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>>133142103

>How do you know I'm not a Rastafarian?
Same thing.

>>133142168
>you are going to get BTFO ITT.
HAHAHA
>you are just a close minded fear ridden soul.
>Disgust is now fear.
>enjoy life for what it is.
>Using substances with the sole goal to make you avoid living life
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>>133142450
dont do coke

its fucking poison
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>>133142011
well you should probably get out of the conspiracy realm for a second there buddy. lsd was officially synthesized for the first time in the 40s by albert hoffman. the date is known as bicycle day. the greeks also had ergot derivatives. so very wrong you are friendo
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>>133138650
>Cannabis/THC is from the earth and was not engineered by anyone other than God Himself.
>The same goes for psilocybin/psilocin, it's directly from the earth.
>However, during the early parts of the book of Genesis, God gives all seed-bearing plants for mankind's usage.
>Cannabis produces seeds.
>Mushrooms, do not bear seeds but spores - making this a ethical grey area for many Christians.
>LSD, MDMA, Cocaine and DMT (Ayahuasca to some extent) are all crafted by men and require some type of refining process.
>And as most everyone here should already know - LSD was helped along in its creation by the CIA

THIS THIS THIS

hello, fellow christian stoner. Im not a blazer, but considering using some 420 to chill me down once a month, what should Iook for, I already tried weed and one trip was pure lelez, the other was ultra scary, it seems to had been mixed or sprayed with smth more harder...

Based on Genesis, I would stay away from psilobicin and other halucinogens, 1960s and their halocinogense (including CIA/LSD) brought only curse, while weed is almost traditional drug.

>>133142654
what use do you get from such an agressive drug like LSD? weed at least calms you down and at least it looks like a plant, LSD is pure synthetic, its like McDonalds of drug, you have no idea what it actually is.

Synthetic drug revolution is the inheritence of hippies.
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>>133142011
The CIA uses LSD because it puts your brain in a state where your rational thinking gets put on the back burner, allowing hypnosis and other mind control to be much more effective.
The CIA did not make LSD though
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>>133142011
wrong. it was not 'invented' at all, it was discovered by accident by albert hoffman in switzerland 1943. MKULTRA started 10 years later
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>>133141163
Yeah, well, I used to be a reasonably happy person, with dreams and ambitions, now I just exist because I count it as my existential debt to all who came before me.
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>>133142588
wrong use substances to have different experiences. to experience all facets of life. sorry if you cant understand that. there is no substitute for personal experience and you trying to convince people otherwise on the chans by pointing out their typos isn't going to change that. i sincerely hope you get the most out of life but it sounds to me that you'll live it behind your computer screen afraid of things you don't understand
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>>133143084
oh wow a governmental power used a drug that has been considered by thousands to be one of the most influential experiences of their adult lives, forever condeming it thanks to fear mongering from that same power at be
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>>133128677
>Drugs that open the mind, help with debilitating disorders in a safe and effective manner with little to no potential for abuse,
I'm all for legalizing drugs and a man's right to take as he wishes but don't pretend that these drugs are medicine when all you want to do is get high.

If you feel so ashamed about your drug use that you need to make up stupid exuces to justify it then you shouldent be taking them.
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What a terrible thread. How is this even politics? Fucking addicts I swear.
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>>133142977
I'm not very knowledgeable on weed, but I know that if you smoke something that has a very high ratio of THC compared to CBD you are going to be more uncomfortable. There's a lot of other things that affect the high, but they aren't as well researched, so you just kind of have to go on the consensus of other people's experiences.
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>>133143493
>do a psychadelic once every 5 months

YOURE A FUGGIN ADDICT

let me go jerk off to my 2d waifu for the 5th time today you dirty degenerate
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I'll never understand how the burning man trash bashes Big Pharma because of muh shady corporations just to get in the ranks of equally shady gurus financed by the CIA to get the university students high with substances studied for their possible brainwashing applications in the 60s and told them to reject the western society and embrace some polygamous matriarchal pachamama-worshipping nation-hating tradition.

Nothing wrong at all.
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>>133142977
>synthetic drug revolution is the inheritance of hippies
that has nothing to do with your bogus claim that the cia invented lsd. sure they used it trials and mk ultra but they didnt invent it
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>>133143669
kek fuck m8
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>>133142977
it's not as scary as most people here seem to think. of course it all depends on the dosage you do. for myself, i always love the fractal hallucinations that will appear when i look at a pattern like a sidewalk or a wall. mental effects are it is stimulating, kind of like how things get fun to talk about while you're on cocaine. it almost makes you feel telepathic too, like you can pick up on every little movement of someone's body language and understand what they're saying
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fucking hate bitchs that smoke weed
drugs in general are fucking gay
not saying all drug users are faggots
but every faggot ive met was a drug user
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>>133143124

You said you smoked weed when you were depressed.

Maybe your limited time of living under false pretense and societal lies came to an abrupt end once you were faced with true objective reality while high and experiencing novel and profound thoughts (presumably alone in a quasi-meditative setting)

Maybe you were wholly unprepared to deal with this objective reality due to your disconnected world-view, which was truly the initial cause of your depression to begin with.

Maybe I'm projecting and don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
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>>133143232

>here is no substitute for personal experience
>Personal Experience
>Any good

Personal experience is subjective and vastly irrelevant, as your average person doesn't have the means to create a controlled environment, consistent repetition or properly gather and record data. As such it's all random and of little note. For examples some indians think drinking piss makes them healthier. Will you now drink piss?

Furthermore a lot of drugs upon use will permanently alter your brain in irreversible ways. Meaning that there are no resets, and all you have to go on is "try it man". If I claim that shooting yourself in the foot will unlock some secret about reality would you pull the fucking trigger?

It's even worse when we have multiple studies, accounts and just raw data on the detrimental effects of them as well as other anecdotes. Like druggies being useless pices of shit to society.

>and you trying to convince people otherwise
I am not trying to convince anyone, especially not by pointing out your typos but making fun of you, because I know nothing I say will change your mind.
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>>133142589
Its still better for you than prescribed amphetamines
Its probably better for you than caffeine and sugar too, If you consume american serving sizes of those
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>>133128677
>THC, LSD, DMT, MDMA
>little to no potential for abuse

What the fuck is this shit? Those drugs are routinely abused.
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>>133144180
i get what you're saying but i think you are just missing the point. drugs are a positive thing for some people and a negative thing for others. you saying that drugs i n general are degenerate because of the "hippy college kid" stereotype is just wrong though.
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>>133144116
>not saying all drug users are faggots
>but every faggot ive met was a drug user

there is more to this, hippie scum were all gay drug addicts, and all antifafags are heavily into all kinds of drugs.

nevertheless, we should use usefull drugs for medical operations etc., or simply to control the stress of life in a rational manner.
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>>133128677
>Drugs that open the mind
No, they don't. They fuck you up and have pretty long lasting consequences.
THC is useless, CBD has a medical application tho. LSD is mostly recreational drug, safe to some extent, but should be under control. MDMA has medical applications, but it is very easy to misuse it and the results of misuse are rather drastic.
Don't do drugs for fun, kids, it is the most stupid thing you can do.
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>>133144625
>DMT
>routinely abuse
pick one
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What about the hatred for CBD (was added to schedule 1)? No psychoactive effects. Studies show reduces inflammation, anxiety, and is anticonvulsant. Is it possible shills on both sides?
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All these juggalos trying to make drugs legal.
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>>133144700
Your so clueless it's hilarious.
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>>133128677
OP is delusional. Still trying to justify his lifestyle to other people on an anonymous anime child porn forum.
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>>133133009
You should eat 7g, shamanic
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Drugs are a ferrarri going 60 mph straight for Christ if you care enough to sell the world.
I'd say do it if you want some nice fun while you go through this reality (which is relatively hell).
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>>133136657

>This is what pot smokers really believe
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FUGG BIK PHARMA AND FUGG DA BOLICE xDDD
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>>133144659
>you saying that drugs i n general are degenerate because of the "hippy college kid" stereotype is just wrong though.
I never said that's the reason.
Drugs are a mix of distractions, crutches or just outright long term self destruction methods.
One might smoke or get high to avoid thinking about an approaching problem, or to try and keep morale high because he feels he is too weak to just deal with it while clean, or even worse subconsciously or consciously he wants to kill himself but doesn't have the guts to do it suddenly.
They at best make you weak and complacent and at worst ruin you. And the ruin bit is not even the one I have a problem with, it's the weakness and complacent. In a day and age where out nations are being rotted from within, we are surrounded by traitors and are forced or lured into cages we can't afford to be weak.

Though I also do realize I am being hypocritical as I use many other crutches and distractions to avoid facing reality.
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>>133128677
I believe we should decriminalize and regulate all drugs but why do druggies insist on being as gross as possible
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>>133144897
The problem with CBD and CDN is it doesn't work very well(or not at all)unless a small percentage of THC is added in the mix, THC and CBD work hand in hand as far as analgesic properties are concerned, CBD is basically worthless without all the terpenes/thc in cannabis. Pure CBD is a bit of a placebo.
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>>133145510
Your situation would make sense if only this physical reality was all there is to perceive. There is more.
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>>133145685
>CDN

*CBN
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>>133145869

>Your situation would make sense if only this physical reality was all there is to perceive
>Muh other realities
If you can't prove them, they don't exist.
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>>133145510
>Drugs are a mix of distractions, crutches or just outright long term self destruction methods.
>One might smoke or get high to avoid thinking about an approaching problem

in war like in life there is offense and defense, one nobel use for drugs is using it to ease the pain of stress i.e. RELAX.

removing yoursefl TEMPORARILY from problems in order to regroup is not cowardice.

The problem is the faggy culture of hedonism.
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>>133145953
You adhere to truth and logic, yes?
Well, if we are the only conscious beings in a physical world, while also being animals, that would say we are consciously aware of our own animal instincts, if we were to have said things. Now, if these instincts were to be, wouldn't they be of a spiritual nature and we would then be consciously aware of our own spirit then which would beg to question, if we are one with reality, as an animal is, we are one with all and ourselves, consciously. Would we not be God, then?
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>>133146004
It's unfortunate that drugs which have other side effects are the way some people chose to relieve stress. Wouldn't it be nice if you could pick up your favourite instrument to relax, or go for a walk in nature, or just simply meditate.
I get that doing drugs is a nice and quick fix to relax, but there are better solutions to relieving stress (that are also more flexible as they won't leave you impaired for several hours).
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>>133146434
>Would we not be God, then?
Stop smokin dope bro
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>>133146434

>You adhere to truth and logic, yes?
Eh, the more time pases the more I find logic useless and the truth missing.

>wouldn't they be of a spiritual nature and we would then be consciously aware of our own spirit then which would beg to question, if we are one with reality, as an animal is, we are one with all and ourselves, consciously.
A few problems appear, some people don't think they have souls or a spirit, and the bigger one is that you presume we are of any real worth and that we are the only conscious beings. Also you need to explain what you mean by we are one.

>Would we not be God, then?
No, God is God and we are anything but.
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>>133146004

What if you lose access to those drugs?
Do you stop functioning?
Even a noble goal in this case can lead to dependency and vulnerability.
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>>133146434
I think some smart animals have moments of consciousness (not to the same degree as us, but perhaps they might think "gee my A is limiting my ability to do B")
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>>133146661
>I get that doing drugs is a nice and quick fix to relax, but there are better solutions to relieving stress

offcourse. and they should be tried first, but I cant see nothing morally wrong with lighting a cigarate or a beer after a hard days work.

not every stress is psychological, alcohol for instances has plenty of anti-inflamatory properties and meditation isnt good enough for some situations (like when your body is too tired its far more harder to meditate your thought).

Im no stoner, but if most of them werent degenerate hedonists, I would look at lighting a reffer now and then as being just that.

>>133147043
>What if you lose access to those drugs?

then the worst happens, but you should also be aware how many straigh edge people just burst due to unchecked stress.
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>>133147043
>stop functioning

really??

how gods name would we stop functioning?

there is no physical dependency
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>>133146934
>Eh, the more time pases the more I find logic useless and the truth missing.
Ahh, a nihilist lmao kys faggot if there is no truth and nothing has consistency who cares
> is that you presume we are of any real worth and that we are the only conscious beings
Animals are sentient, but they are not conscious. Can you please point out any other beings even remotely close to in any form? I mean, we live with identity. Can you please name another animal who has ever formed a sense of identity, please. Because, that's kind of a big deal. That means a lot.
>No, God is God and we are anything but.
We are God's spirit. Anything less is damn ridiculous.

How boring and lack of passion you must be. I pity you man, but at least you're honest with your lack of being. That allows opportunity.
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>>133136437

Psychedelics are literally not addictive in anyway. No one has a shroom or lsd addiction.
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>>133128677
Voters want those substances banned, so that's what the government does. Try asking your average voter if LSD or MDMA should be legalized, and they will say no. Young people don't vote, so they don't end up with an voice in these policies.
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>>133147493
>scared boomers
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>>133147347
>Psychedelics are literally not addictive

that doesnt make them harmless.
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>>133147237

>there is no physical dependency
>He really thinks this

And dependency is not just purely physical. Some people build dependencies on things that don't alter brain chemistry.

>>133147276

>Can you please name another animal who has ever formed a sense of identity, please.
Dolphins, the rapists of the sea recognize themselves in mirrors and react differently then when seeing another dolphin's reflection or projection.

>We are God's spirit. Anything less is damn ridiculous.
No we are not, God sent us the holy Ghost, and we may be built in his image but we are not his spirit.
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>>133147237
You would become very distraught and feel very suicidal. Your thinking process would turn entirely emotional, meaning rationality would be out the window.
Behavioral addictions are a very real thing with very real symptoms.
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LSD is amazing, but you have to really be sure that your mind is in a good place. You can have the most fucked conversations in your own head and go temporarily schizo. Some people go commit suicide on a bad trip. You can underestimate the potential of a bad trip really easily when you just had the most interesting experiences of your life on it before. On LSD your brain makes connections like in your childhood and when you're tripping thinking you're resposible for someones death or the cops are gonna throw you in jail that will leave you a little disturbed for a while. Also never take LSD after you just tripped. Your serotonin is used up and you will go LSD crazy but without the euphoria that makes it a neat experience. Weak minded people can get fucked really bad, safe use is an absolute MUST for psychedelics with the potential to alter you psyche as drastically as LSD or, from what I've read, DMT.
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>>133147699
tell me why this is bad? having stimuli to your brain that is other wise dormant.
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>>133147207
Animals have spirits. They just can't perceive them. They can't perceive themselves, period. They can only perceive their whole being of existence. Their process is who they are. They lack identity, but can be given identity, too.
Humans can communicate with animals, empathetically. In fact, animals are quite communicative.
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>itt: a bunch of scared autists who never did these drugs telling other people they shouldnt be allowed to do these drugs
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>>133147875
Oh man the first time I did shrooms I redosed after just three days. The trip lasting maybe a quarter of the last one, euphoria maybe one eight, and then I felt like fucking dying for the next 6 hours.
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>>133147843
No we are not, God sent us the holy Ghost, and we may be built in his image but we are not his spirit.
What do you think drives God? We are him. Without us, there is no reality or God. This perception holds true, if you keep it real.
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>>133147850
oh boy i better watch out for myself, i might have lsd in my spine and go crazy one day

im gonna lose my mind one day, you hear that day trippers were fucked thanks impart to our leaf friend here telling us this vital psa
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>>133128677
Benzodiazepine abuse is an exclusively american problem. Ask yourselves what you are doing wrong.
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>>133148285
If all the people who recognize God disappear, God doesn't just disappear too, he just ceases to be acknowledged.
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>>133148039
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>>133137618

This.

This is applicable to long term potheads as well.
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>>133148169
tolerance jump

takes a while to get out the system
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>>133132515
Doctorfag here. Its a very shitty blood thinner. and shouldnt be taken as one if you need it. its like a baby blood thinner.
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>>133148169
Ever tried shrooms on pizza? very satisfying
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>>133128677
>Ambian
You mean Ambien?
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>>133128677
there is nothing wrong with SSRIs, they quite literally saved my life.
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>>133128677
You're a nigger. Why would you want these fucking sheep to be thinkers? That shit would be chaos. Civilization would collapse because everyone would "know better" than everyone else because of inflated egos and senses of self-worth. Trust me, you don't want that. You stupid assholes need to be grateful for your positional awareness and stop giving a shit about the wal-mart cashier.
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>>133132687
80+ hours a week at work Stonerfag here, and yes i smoke cannibis every single day. Quick question, did Chad give your girlfriend the pot the night she left you for him?
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>>133149445
I came to this realization once.

Does anyone consider that civilization is structured as such.....because it kind of needs to be?
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>>133149189

There is everything wrong with ssris you retard, the turn you into a zombie, kill your sex drive, increase risk of a brain hemorrhage, and nearly all the non islamic mass shooters have been on them
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>>133128677
ive taken lsd twice and each time i love it it makes me so happy. it also has given me more of a grip on life. however in turn ive become more nihilistic.
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>>133149189
>>133149786

Yeah. Saved your life, at what cost?

Another complacent zombied out economic unit?
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>MDMA
>safe

You do realize it fucks with the bodies natural way of producing serotonin, right? I've met people who have used MDMA to a point where they're no longer capable of feeling actual happiness.

No synthetic drug is to be viewed as safe or a positive experience. It's all garbage. Stick to weed and shrooms.
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>>133128677

I just smoked 40 grams of mdma, think I'm having a bad trip. What medication should I use to mellow it out?
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>>133150545
Bleach.
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>>133150225
>I've met people who have used MDMA to a point where they're no longer capable of feeling actual happiness.

Hello undercover toothpaste.
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>>133150591
Arnold be nice. I need help!
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>>133150545
.45 ACP
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>>133149755
Of course not. They are too busy with dumb shit.
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>>133148479
because the benzos we have in the u.s.(xanax/klonopin/valium etc) aren't even used in europe unless you have a really good reason. even then they won't prescribe the stuff half the time. benzos will become obsolete just like barbiturates became obsolete and dangerous and another family/class of drugs will take it's place.
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>>133138650
>God Himself
Stopped reading there
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>>133128677
>Implying any of those substitute well for pain management.
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>>133128677
feel bad man, I want to try psychedelics for my anixty/ avoidant.
I want to explore
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>>133136437
if you think porn should be legal then you should also be in favor of straight up heroine being legal. also why tf do you have an ancap flag
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>>133150962
But what if they aren't too "busy with dumb shit"

They would still have to stand behind a counter, or flip burgers, or retrieve your trash, or sit in a cubicle with their specialized knowledge and a headset for 40 hours a week - or society as we know it would crumble irreparably.

Those people would probably turn to crime for sustenance because the majority certainly don't have the personal agency or intelligence or forethought to survive without a paycheck
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After every thread like this I want to reduce my dose of Citalopram from 30mg to 20mg.
I'm in a good place in life right now so, I feel better not only because of the medicine.
should I do it?
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>>133138650

Do you realise that there are clouds of ethanol/methanol in space that are millions of kilometres in length?
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>>133133009
if you can still walk you didn't have enough
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>>133151451
I should add that a lot of europeans love and abuse a benzo called etizolam that you can order tons of from china, same with phenibut but that's not a benzo but it has a bad physical withdrawal, so it's not only an american problem.
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>>133152862
lol

it was a beautiful morning to stroll through the park
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>>133152373
Does your dick still work after taking that stuff? Or do you even have an interest to find out?
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>>133138650
>>133142977
>>133142011

>LSD was helped along in its creation by the CIA
top kek
no
claims like that make it seem like you struggle with science and mathematics, so to you they are mysterious government inventions.
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>>133152373
If you feel like you really want to, then yes. But don't use threads on 4chan as your main decision maker, read articles, journals and all information you can get before doing anything. And don't stop cold turkey or the brain zaps will come.
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>>133128924
you say it! stop kool aid and other shit
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>>133128677
it has been proven that weed leads to various mental disorders.

>the research proves it.

additionally, if you're wondering who setup the system the way it is, look no further than the Jews.
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>>133139686

Water Powered anything is a terrible idea and the guy who developed the water-powered engine was killed rightfully so. We need fresh, potable water to live. We can't be using it as fuel.

Stick to your other alternative energy sources.
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>>133141981
>>133141775

You are both equally retarded
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>>133128677
WHO IS THIS
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>>133157358
GAUNT
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>>133135011
Weed helps with depression that it creates itself.

constant smoking is brain killin
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>>133128677
Being almost 40 years old, I can tell you there is perfect rhyme and reason behind every decision... profit/money/advantage. I know a lot of you tards on this board are younger, so let that be a staple of your decision making, not just professionally, but in your ability to see why and how things happen and work.

>Drugs that open the mind, help with debilitating disorders in a safe and effective manner with little to no potential for abuse, all are illegal Schedule 1 drugs that carry hefty punishments
posts drugs that can permanently brain damage someone.
>>LSD, DMT, MDMA
Not to even mention how people act when taking these drugs.
Maybe the fact that you'd buy hard drugs off someone on the corner, based on their word is why they're being locked up in the first place.
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>>133139155
I must say weed and shrooms played a role in breaking down my bluepilled mind and making me the shitlord I am today
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Big pharma is the only reason there are treatments for nany cancers and other diseases. Fuck off commie
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>>133158947
MDMA has no evidence to point to it being neurotoxic, in fact the one study that everyone likes to jump on the bandwagon with (the one with the before and after brain scan) was around 1000x the normal effective dose injected directly into the brain of a monkey... It actually demonstrates how it is much much safer than another drug which is PROVEN to be EXTREMELY neurotoxic... Care to guess what it is?

Alcohol.

Try consuming 1000x the effective dose of alcohol and see what happens... In every applicable metric alcohol is orders of magnitude more harmful than MDMA.
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>>133139686
Germany has been adopting more radical green energy policies yet they're producing more CO2.

Obama forced green energy subsidies of hundreds of billions of US dollars and cropped all other competition. It still failed to compete in the global market and needed 100% government funding to exist.

>Your argument is invalid.
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>>133160298
Why do you people always holding alcohol as the evidence with your point? What specific remedies does MDMA alleviate that you rather take it than alcohol, and what about the idiots that will drink themselves stupid then swallow 3 E pills? Laws protect the stupid and least capable (e.g. speed limits). Alcohol was in the right time and place.

MDMA is synthetic, and opens another box of issues to deal with if it were legal. Abusing anything will cause issues.
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>>133133783
>>133133914
>>133134144
>>133136532
>>133138126
>>133138126
>>133138576
>>133139758

Fuck me, the big pharma shills sure are out in force today.
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>>133158947
>posts drugs that can permanently brain damage someone.

Car accidents can permanently brain damage someone but that doesn't mean it should be illegal.

>Not to even mention how people act when taking these drugs.

Yeah! Fuck those people for staying in their house and minding their business! How dare they?

Calm down Mrs Lovejoy.
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>>133162511
>Abusing anything will cause issues.

Thats it. Its all decided, time to go home. Everything can cause issues and therefore everything should be illegal!
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>>133128677
> Drugs that open the mind
There is no such thing hippie. These are only doing physical and psychological damage to your nervous system.
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>>133132515

Ameri-fags eat aspirin as if it were candy, in actuality it fucks with your heart over the duration. The system exists to siphon you into the grave, chemo, aspirin, the assault on healthy fatty foods and now the fucktarded psy-op against running, these people want to tax you to death. There is usury through and all about the system, the healthcare system is by far the biggest cash cow of them all.

>google aspirin, and the effects of its peptides
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>>133163018
>Car accidents can permanently brain damage someone but that doesn't mean it should be illegal
Cars v. Drugs.?.?.? because both cause brain damage when misused, HMMMMM! How even do you equate?

>Yeah! Fuck those people for staying in their house and minding their business! How dare they? Calm down Mrs Lovejoy.

Yea, because that's exactly who causing the issues.
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>>133163150
>Thats it. Its all decided, time to go home. Everything can cause issues and therefore everything should be illegal!

There are literally regulations on sex... why?
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>>133133783
Same thing with me. Weed makes me feel schizo and makes my HPPD 100x worse
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>>133128677
All of these drugs are fucking dangerous.
THC impairs memory, destroys motivation and can bring on psychotic episodes with long term, heavy use. CBD strains may be a different argument, but THC is ducked.
LSD is not a toy. Even if there is evidence that it's useful in therapeutic settings it should never be easily available for recreation.
MDMA causes instant, measurable, probably irreversible brain damage upon a single use, and has a plethora of other savage side effects with prolonged or regular usage. Even once a week fucks you up

But by all means, flip the coin for yourself to prove yourself right.
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Pharma makes the best drugs. Right now the opana 40mg generic is the king of drugs. Fuck all that holly bs
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>>133164077
>MDMA causes instant, measurable, probably irreversible brain damage upon a single use, and has a plethora of other savage side effects with prolonged or regular usage. Even once a week fucks you up
Wrong faggot
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MDMA has therapeutic qualities but it is definitely prone to abuse. My cousin is a living example of that. He's been giving himself serotonin syndrome weekly since he got 200mg mdma pressed pills (they've been tested for quality, darknet shit)

He is fucking himself up hardcore because he doesn't have the knowledge or willpower to not do it. Drug legislation exists specifically because of people like him, who are equivalent to niggers in almost all regards. I'm a huge advocate for responsible drug usage, but even I'm in favor of keeping most drugs criminalized. I done all sorts of drugs, but I always do a tremendous amount of research before hand so that I know all of the risks I'm taking so that I can make an informed decision about whether or not I should do the drug.
For instance, I've recently concluded my studies into cocaine, as I've discovered that even moderate amounts of cocaine usage cause apoptosis of heart cells, leading to the swelling of the heart that is so common in coke heads. You can mitiage the vast majority of cocaine's damaging qualities via proper supplementation, however there will always be some damage that can't be controlled. Thus the risk is too high regardless of if I want to do the drug or not. Same with methamphetamine. I'd love to try meth, because it is my wonderdrug. Everything I enjoy from my chemical experimentation is met in methamphetamine, save for the psychedelic experience. The problem, much like with coke, comes from the fact that methamphetamine can cause permanent damage to the brain via massive free radical generation by your dopamine receptors.

If everyone could and would take the same approach I do to drug usage, then I would see no reason to keep them banned. However we all know that my practices are not common. A cursory google search is the most we can expected, and even that is a stretch. Most people do drugs because their uninformed retard friends told them some bs about the drug.
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>>133128677
>LSD is mindopening
>shuts down activity in mPFC and ACC
>regions responsible for learning associations between context, locations, events, and corresponding adaptive responses, particularly emotional responses and higher-level functions such as reward anticipation, decision-making, impulse control
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>>133132515
>always be ready to bleed out with the slightest poke
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>>133148408
It's not physical dipshit. When I was selling LSD and doing it constantly I would say I was addicted. I hated my reality and LSD was literally the furthest I could get from it. I was doing it compulsively even when I knew I should be studying or really doing anything else. It was my reward for making it through a few more days and it was all i looked forward to. I lost like 30 pounds because i never got hungry and rarely slept. Anywhere someone can find an escape is an outlet for addiction.
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>>133128677
>THC
meh grow out of that
>, LSD
one wrong tab and you'll shine like a diamond forever in diapers

>, DMT
above but quicker
>, MDMA
parkinsons

i saw all this shit in the early 90s and lost 1/3 of my old buddies to it. go on don;t believe me kill yourself all the old druggie fun crowd are fucking wrecks or dead or in psych 20 years on. truth. raw and unvarnished
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>>133128677
Shill. Drugs are degenerate. Just say no
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>>133165029
Source? If you're referencing the recent groundbreaking MRI study of LSD's affects on the human mind, then that study also showed that all typical activity returns to normal after LSD is cycled out of the system. So yes, while LSD does shut down those centers, it's both not permanent and not damaging in the slightest. Many of the 'acid thoughts' that are so enlightening comes from that particular quality of LSD to begin with. It's eye opening to approach concepts and people with a mind untainted by your previous experience. Through the eyes of babes you see the truest light and all that
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>>133165621
Tell you what you are necking tabs made by some stoned hippy who was singing to the grateful dead when he fucked up the molarity and bang you swallowed it. 5 years on your sitting in a day room playing scrabble with yourself spelling nonsense words. Fuck out of here pimping this crap.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi2XCsPKlY8

Don;t worry though. Mother superior will be there to help you when chronic anxiety and depression is crawling up your spine from necking shit or a few years. Then you can take the last junction on the railroad to fucking no where.
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>>133165812
You have no idea how LSD is synthesized do you? The most common danger of LSD usage is street dealers peddling NBOMe's. A simple testing kit mitigates the biggest danger LSD users face. Yes there are some dangers to LSD usage if you're prone to mental illness to begin with, but otherwise all things caused by the chemical itself can be avoided by making sure you have LSD to begin with.

As I said in my original post, I don't expect anyone else to actually buy test kits or do anything to verify their drugs and such. I fully support keeping it criminal, but this hatred for drugs exists for the same reason drugs should be banned. People are ignorant to the actual facts involving drugs and they have opinions forged out of that ignorance. You might not be the same as a nigger that does crack, but your hatred of crack is founded on the same ignorance.
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>>133165594
Sure faggot, get a massive cut or a broken bone and NOT go to the hospital, where they'll administer several drugs to keep you alive. Maybe you'll suffer consequences for your ignorance.
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>>133165594
you are a bluepill
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>>133165342
>>, LSD
>one wrong tab and you'll shine like a diamond forever in diapers
In other words, something that isn't LSD. Blaming LSD for the effects of drugs which are sold as LSD but are not LSD is an old psyop. Don't fall for it. May as well blame aspirin for people mistaking poison for headache medicine.
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>>133166485
Yeah. Your speuial. You be fine. Because your special. So special. Just like all the other poor cunts who thought they were fucking clever. Then one day they were not clever. They were just pitiful fuck ups. So sorry. Thanks for playing.
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>>133166765
>>one wrong tab and you'll shine like a diamond forever in diapers
>In other words, something that isn't LSD.

Wrong. Do you even know what molarity is? What happens when someone takes the equivalent of 1000 tabs at once? YOu tell me 'cos I've seen it. O alright I'll tell you. They black out. And when they return to consciousness. They are gone...away with the birds, chasing pretty colors, cramping up in terror at nothing. Forever Happens every day and no one gives a shit. Shine on your crazy diamond. Roll that dice, your brain is fuck all use anyway.
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>>133166485
it's not enlightening and it's not good for you. Keep it illegal.
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>>133129060
2pbp
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>>133166485
>if you're prone to mental illness to begin with

Everyone is 'prone to mental illness'. Enjoy yours.
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>>133129293
>bleed to death because of aspirin
Aspirin is shit at primary prevention, you better take Plavix or Apixaban if you need prophylaxis.
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>>133133243
Your argument is like saying cheeseburgers have potential for abuse simply because you can eat a lot of them. The side effects of smoking a shit load of weed is WAY more mild than if you smash back 5 or 6 oxys.
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>>133166909
Nice rebuttal, you really did your opinion justice with that one
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>>133167743
>The side effects of smoking a shit load of weed is WAY more mild than if you smash back 5 or 6 oxys.

Depends if the brain is still growing. That only stops in the early 20s. Yummy pouring THC on developing neural structures. What could go wrong there?
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>>133167268
Bull. Shit.
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>>133128677
Why do i experience auditory hallucinations when I get way too high? Usually comes from white noise, aka the AC or a fan
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>>133167849
>Nice rebuttal, you really did your opinion justice with that one

But your speuial you'll be fine. Oops no you are exactly the type that gets clipped. You think your eyesight is so good you can't possibly walk into that lamppost AND YET THERE YOU GO- BANG!
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>>133168018
>Bull. Shit.

You think I'm your Angel. Go and do it. No fucks are given and no one will care you will just be another doped twat full of temazepam and sedatives vegetating in a gown.
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>>133168089
stop smoking weed. i've heard voices while stoned on multiple occasions. Though desu it was probably more related to >>133165133
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>>133168089
Literally just your brain on drugs. Nothing more nothing less
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>>133133413
Maybe you were mentally ill already. If you're of a sound mind doing psychoactive drugs occasionally shouldn't have any lasting negative side effects like you mentioned. It can get a little more dangerous if you have underlying mental issues you're unaware of and take them in very high doses however.
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>>133167393
You'd think that, but through psychedelic usage I've been able to experience a wider range of emotions than ever before in my life. I've been depressed before, but it wasn't until acid that I truly felt despair. I have 'experienced' my own death 5 times (I believed I'd died and passed on to the afterlife) and it left me looking at my life in ways I'd never imagined I could. There are all sorts of emotions and countless degrees of each. I may never feel the kind of despair I've felt during a bad trip, and I think that having experienced it has equipped me with a better mental toolset to approach the world with.

Most of the ideas I cook up while on a psychedelic are just fluff and I almost never integrate those things as I know they are ultimately the product of a high mind.
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>>133168632
>mentally ill already

That's the wierd thing about life. Everyone is 'mentally ill' everyone has the potential for a psychotic break or skitzoid episode in the right conditions. Just come with me and bring your lsd and sit by this tree and heres my pliers and look your mind just went away and that's all there is today.
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>>133167268
Over the last 23 years I've taken more hits of LSD than Jimi Hendrix. You are flat-out full of shit.
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>>133168807
>psychedelic usage I've been able to experience a wider range of emotions than ever before in my life

A DRUG MADE MUH FEEL HAIL DRUG SO PROFOUND

Spastic and worthless shit induced by a chemical. Not worth a fuck.
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>>133168892
>Over the last 23 years I've taken more hits of LSD than Jimi Hendrix. You are flat-out full of shit.

There's the golden boy the one who made it. He's so pleased with himself that he's not going to mention all the crashes he's known because fuck 'em.
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>>133168089
THC is a psychedelic drug and at very high doses it has very obvious psychedelic qualities such as auditory and visual hallucinations. They are usually mild, but you can see "the tree of life" and such on a blank wall if you ingest enough. Also, you probably had a sativa strain which is known for producing much more obvious psychedelic qualities.
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>>133168986
The double helix structure of DNA waws intuited under the effects of LSD. Your assertion that nothing tangible can come of its illuminations simply shows you to be an inexperienced and narrow minded blowhard.
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>>133168986
Whatever you say Pablo. I understand you having such a strong hate for drugs seeing as your shithole country is run by the fuckers who profit off of the criminalization of drugs.
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>>133168369
Been there, done that. Still alive and well.
Give me reliable sources for you bullshit.
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>>133145360
Mostly, yeah.
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>>133168807
LSD is the most fascinating drug i've come into contact with and im not debating that it is a fun and unique experience. But I do not believe that LSD will ever cause positive change.
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>>133169263
Fucking sef deluding hippy. I've seen more drugs and consequences than anyone else on this thread. I'd say a 1/3 of regular LSD./MDNA users are completely fucked 20 years on if they are even still alive. Where do you think all the high anxiety ayyy freaks come from? Yummy yoummy Parkinsons. Ooooo pretty psychosis.
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>>133140213
It affects the thinking process after awhile. It's why hippies end up speaking in a slur even while partially sober.
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>>133169268
>Whatever you say Pablo. I understand you having such a strong hate for drugs seeing as your shithole country is run by the fuckers who profit off of the criminalization of drugs.


told you your eyes would go first. Front of the neural cortex. Already seeing what you think is there rather than what is.
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>>133169570
At least 2 (and most likely 3) Nobel Prizes have been awarded for discoveries made while their discoverers were under the influence of LSD.
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>>133169614
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>133140015
you're not alone, jerry
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>>133169796
>At least 2 (and most likely 3) Nobel Prizes have been awarded for discoveries made while their discoverers were under the influence of LSD.

Yeah your drugged up verbal shitposting will be of immense value to the future of mankind but hey its alike the universe is an atom dude and then then I am made of galaxies dude and I will win a Nobel prize dude. Fuck off..
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If you think 'big pharma' is the reason those drugs are schedule 1 then your thinking is flawed. There is profit to be made through legalization and thc pills have already received serious consideration. The prison and law enforcement system that would receive huge layoffs is the culprit youre looking for. Smh
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>>133169570
It's made a markedly positive change on me, that's for sure. I respect your opinion of course, and I also believe LSD should remain illegal as I've described a few times now
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>>133169953
That's pastatastic druggy edgelord. So original. Like communism it will work this time huh?

60s -. LSD cabbages galore
90s - LSD cabbages galore

IT WILL WORK THIS TIME?

Nah.
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>>133128677
All of the supposedly bad ones are highly effective except for SSRIs which only help some people.

Benzodiazapines and similar substances like ambien are supposed to only be taken for a short amount of time or for emergencies and are perfectly safe. Benzodiazepines don't give euphoria and aren't psychologically addictive unless you have pre-existing anxiety problems.
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>>133128677
Agreed, but your image is really not helping the argument, OP. It just fulfills the confirmation bias of all the reefer madness normalfaggots who think people who smoke cannabis are all degenerate lowlifes. You won't find many or any pictures of nondegenerates smoking weed because they have the foresight to not allow themselves to have their picture taken while in the act, in case it falls into the wrong hands and their cover is blown.
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>>133169796
How many discoveries have been made under the influence of alcohol?
>muh opened mind
It's all the same man. I'm not a DARE fag either i speak from experience.
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>>133170283
>It's made a markedly positive change on me, that's for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN7-FQmuxYg
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>>133170133
You are fake news.
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>>133170737
>You are fake news.

you are fake news
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>>133170882
Ahh, yes. The old "I'm rubber, you're glue" tactic. The surefire sign you're speaking with a fucking genius.
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>>133170343
The second you can prove that LSD directly causes damage to the body I'll start taking you seriously. I've done more reading on this drug than you've probably done in your whole life, but man I can't wait to see what dare-tier source you pull out of your ass to try and justify your blanket hatred of drugs.
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>>133170999
>Ahh, yes. The old "I'm rubber, you're glue" tactic. The surefire sign you're speaking with a fucking genius.

maybe i don't think I'm a genius. 'cos its the ones that think that they are spucial that get the best lessons from life, genius.
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>>133170999
checked and checked
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>>133128677
Do whatever drugs you want to do, im not against that, dont claim that theyre not harmful in alot of ways however.
All of this retarded enlightenment psychedelic-fags think they have is on display when you simply look at life and if you need to damage your brain slightly permanently just so you can look around you like a normal human being
for a few hours, then thats your thing, but no its not completely harmless, far from it.
Also on "if youre of sound mind there is no harm". You may not know it but you could be genetically predisposed to have certain mental issues later in life or sooner.
When conducting research on benefits of sensory deprivation tanks ive read that they tested "of sound mind" or sane people for their predisposition to hallucinate, and those that agreed with the research indeed did have a more hallucinogenic experience in the tank while others did not. Just because you think you are of sound mind doesnt mean shit.
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>>133171043
>The second you can prove that LSD directly causes damage to the body I'll start taking you seriously. I've done more reading on this drug than you've probably done in your whole life, but man I can't wait to see what dare-tier source you pull out of your ass to try and justify your blanket hatred of drugs.

I hate drugs because I did them with a lot of smart young people 1/4 of which got their lives raped by them. You go right on ahead kiddo. You're special. You won't win the golden ticket. Drop that microdot.
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>>133171266
>maybe i don't think
See? I knew we could come to an agreement.
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>>133171398
>All of this retarded enlightenment psychedelic-fags think they have is on display when you simply look at life and if you need to damage your brain slightly permanently just so you can look around you like a normal human being

This.
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>>133171514
>See? I knew we could come to an agreement.

You don't have to the agreement will just wander into your life even if I'd never said a word. I'm your telephone to God.
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>>133171499
>I hate drugs because I did them with a lot of smart young people
You did drugs and you're a fucking idiot, therefore anyone who has used drugs must be a fucking idiot. I admit I'm having trouble countering your air-tight logic.
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>>133171499
>Because me and my retard friends couldn't handle drugs no one can
No wonder a fourth of your friends died to drug usage. Like minded people congregate so you must have been surrounded by the biggest fucktards on the planet
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>>133171805
>>133171869
This.
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>>133171869
Biggest fucktards on the planet make the decision of using drugs, rly makes you think
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>>133172388
Literally what I said in >>133164872

Fucktards like >>133171499 and his friends are exactly why drugs should remain illegal
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>>133169614
fuck off potato nigger
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>>133172474
So by that logic cars should be illegal because some idiot with no experience may decide to get behind the wheel of a vehicle without an experienced driver coaching them?
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>>133172755
If there were a certification process involved then perhaps I'd be fine with decriminalized drug usage just like I'm fine with vehicular usage
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>>133172474
We should actually try to do research into the short and longterm effects of these illegal drugs, make them legal, and offer no government support for those who fuck up their lives or kill themselves with it.
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>>133170882
Judging by the way you write and structure your thoughts it's rather apparent you're projecting your mental illness onto others.


Also, some retarded stoned hippy doesn't make LSD in their basment (while listening to the Dead) because the precursors are extremely controlled. On top of that, if it did happen the GDF/Masons/CIA would find said retarded hippy and end him for encroaching on their territory and for selling/making bunk acid. As it is, the retards selling 2c and 25i as acid get found and ended. You think the family is going to let some retard manufacture bunk shit? Word on the street travels fast.

Keep projecting your illness though, retard.
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>>133172877
Emphasis on perhaps, by the way. We all know horrible drivers make it through with licenses which is bullshit; same would be said of drug certification
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>>133172905
I'd agree, but like I said: There are far more idiots than intelligent people. The average white male can't even be expected to be as informed as they should be when it comes to drugs, let alone everyone else.
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>>133172474
Thing about harder drugs ( i exclude alcohol and weed here ) is not that you do them once youre dead ( there are some like that though ) but its more about the fact that its too easy to get addicted if youre not careful and mindful. And in reality most of the population isnt.
Hell you can use heroin and not damage yourself as much as the next guy but i doubt that 99% of the planet is capable of not doing it the second time in a matter of days. It is both a mental and a physical burden.
But my main issue is with people that do psychedelics and act intelligent and attribute that to their psychedelic use.

>>133172755
Thats why there is a drivers licence so imbeciles dont drive.
Do you want a drugs licence where youre being tested before you get a card that lets you use em?
Also you have to consider how far are you going with the legal aspect of it. I assure you that if the government starts making your drugs you are going to get even more fucked up mentally than you are getting fucked up now by buying it illegally, for the most non extreme cases anyway.
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>>133169953
what the FUCK did you say to me you lil bitch? ill say u are nothing to how marine i am. i know my bullets like my rights. and nothing beats my rifle. touch me and you will pray you never existed (maybe).

fuck this shit.
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>>133173168
I 100% agree with you about 'harder' drugs. Also I see where you're coming from about psychs, they aren't some magic pill to grant wisdom. However it would be naive to state that no form of enlightenment or good can come from their usage. Some people can genuinely become better via psychedelic usage.
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>also
Fuck bad Karma
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>>133173116
Unfortunately I think you're right. I browsed a few forums when I was researching a RC and there's countless people doing the most basic mistakes (redosing benzos thinking you're sober, taking heroic doses on the first time, doing suicidal combinations of drugs). It seems a considerable group of people who do drugs are just idiots like you say.
Ruins it for the rest of us though.
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>>133173404
Yeah, it could be helpful to some. Nothing is black and white.
Thing to consider though is that most of what you buy on the street is laced with god knows what. And as ive said, you might think youre sane and you might be, but you also could have predispositions to hallucinations or brain damage. I was completely fine when i was under 15, but then at 15 out of nowhere i am suddenly in a psych ward arguing with myself while taking tons of meds to combat anxiety, depression and schizophrenia.

But whatever form of enlightenment these drug users have and whatever they may learn, at least from what ive heard, none of it surpasses things that ive learned by merely existing without damaging my brain( in that particular way anyway). Some feelings like trees breathing and so on, who cares if it wears off after youre high? Whats the point of what you do if you cannot tie it to your life? What is the point of experience if you dont get anything from it and it is forgotten in a matter of days.
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>>133173832
>taking heroic doses on the first time

So many people fuck up right here. They think that drugs have to be all or none and don't realize that you can have just as good a time on a fourth of the drug as you will on the whole thing. The cousin I mentioned earlier is like that. He's taking 200mg of MDMA every time he takes a pill. A heavy dose of MDMA is 175mg that only experienced users should be doing to begin with.

Fucking idiots the lot of them
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>>133173168
actuallu a training class to use drugs doesnt sound like a terrible idea.

Users only can purchase enough for a singlr dose to prevent selling or giving it away to the uninitiated
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>>133173960
This thread is about to prune, so I'll keep it short. The 'reason' is for reference. By experience such drastically different things you can relate other things to that experience. Like I said with the emotions, I'd never felt despair like I've felt on acid and I doubt I ever will again. Likewise, I've only felt joviality of that degree when I'm on a drug or when I'm with the love of my life. Having done LSD has increased the breadth of my emotional pallet. That ties back to real life in many ways and I think it's a mostly positive thing.
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