Why do (((they))) want to legalize weed so bad?

>>133127778
dumbs down the populace

>>133127778
to make money? and if you ever quit pharma is there to provide you with anti-depressants so you're a customer for life

>>133127778
why not? the tax dollars would be substantial, no?

>>133127778
Weed is just a proxy to get people to agree with their leftist policies. Basically "I support the Democratic party because they want to legalize weed! #420BlazeIt bro!"

>>133127778
so the state can tax it like alcohol.

>>133127988
doesnt the cost of treating addicts out weigh the money gianed from tax?

>>133127778
Makes the population lazy and dumb enough to subvert it easily.

Potheads should sent to forced labour camps.

>>133127778
It makes you fucking complacent, I tell you what. You can live in a dystopian hell like Norilsk or Detroit, if you just consume enough weed through a clean pipe or a vaporizer you'll be happy and laughing. Happy, hazy apathy. That's weed. Anyone who tells you this is not addictive should be marked as a fucking fool. And yes I am consuming it myself pretty much every day.

>>133127778
so they can have a heard of dumb lazy nigger cattle

>>133128168
states pay to treat pot addicts? is pot addiction a thing? everyone says its not, but they're probably potheads

>>133127778
Uh, since when? It would reduce alcohol and a prescription drug sales, which are wholly preferred. Also, it weakens the military-industrial incentive in Afghanistan because where the fuck else can you haul that kind of opium?

>>133127778
Creates a docile herd and paranoia at breaking the law. Brush up on the opium pandemic of Britain and China.

>>133128474
The withdrawal symptoms are laughable, but a heavy weed consumer will make their supply and consumption top priorities nonetheless. After a while, you no longer want to live without it.

>>133128474
pot addiction is a big thing everybody saying otherwise is ignoring litral fact also here in belguim the did some math and the cost to treat smokers of there addiction out weighs the cost of treatmen there a drain on our welfare system.
https://www.cancer.org/research/infographics-gallery/tobacco-related-healthcare-costs.html

>>133128775
or a better example would be the crack epedemic of the 1980's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_epidemic_(United_States)

>>133128474
It definitely is a thing. Thats why stoners have to smoke every single day, they get serious withdrawal if they don't get their daily dose.
I would rate weed addiction potential up there with the other hardcore stuff like heroin, coke, amphetamines, LSD and speed.

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>>133128474
Pot addiction is more of a mental addiction kind of thing. I don't know why people are complaining about weed so much when things like xanx and other pain killers are the real problem but oh no that fool over there smoking that devil lettuce over there

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(((Big Pharma))) wants to keep it illegal retard, it would undercut their shekels

>>133128976
>Pot addiction is more of a mental addiction

what do you think addiction is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction
Addiction is a brain disorder characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli,

>>133128322
Completely agree, it pisses me off to no end that I fell for the "le benign non addictive drug" meme. Now I barely have my shit together and my main focal point is having weed for the day. Its fucked.

>>133127778
WE want to legalize weed, (((they))) want it to stay illegal so they can sell useless medication and chop down the forests to make paper, also did I mention you can make biodiesel from it?

>>133128914
I've never once had any withdrawal symptoms, and that's from smoking every day for months to going cold turkey

>>133128976
Not true for everyone, I personally have horrible appetite and can't even slightly fall asleep if I go without for a day. Ill agree its more mental if you are only occasionally smoking it but you can't deny that smoking it all day every day and getting your eating and sleeping habits in line with smoking weed doesn't make it much harder to quit.

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>>133127778
>Kasol

https://youtu.be/zawTJm3TtI4

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>>133128914
Not quite. Pot addiction is strictly emotional withdrawal. The physical withdrawal symptoms are nigh nonexistent (some sleep problems, maybe reduced appetite for a few days). If you want an apt comparison, see nicotine addiction. Nicotine withdrawal is 90% emotional, only the remaining 10% register as physical. And yet, so many people smoke tobacco and don't want to quit. Addiction can be rooted strictly in the mind, tobacco and weed prove this.

>>133129212
Again not the same for everyone by any measure, however I won't say its close to heroin like the other poster said lmao

>>133129129
Instead of the extreme physical sickness you get from other drugs. Obviously everything is from your brain but you are just being autistic if you dont understand this

you're confused senpai, (((they))) wanna keep it illegal so they can lock up more young goys and milk shekels off of the prison industry.
if (((they))) wanted it legal it would be.

>>133129525
This is true, there are some withdrawal symptoms that could manifest physically for a few days tops, but its not even slightly in the same league as harder drugs in terms of withdrawal.

>>133129139
If you want my advice, find a method of consuming it other than smoking.I recommend vapor, dosage and effect are very similar. Pills are great and easy to make. I can do a workout or something productive in the house while getting my high. People respect me more than they used to.

>>133128053
So edgy.

>>133127778
Why do (((they))) shill on this board so much?

>>133127778
I want it to be legalized so I can stop seeing stupid threads and stupid articles and stupid petitions and hearing stupid stoners tell me how 'it's medicine man' before a long rant of stupid pseudoscientific bullshit.

>>133129525
>Obviously everything is from your brain

dont you understand what i was inplying in my post?

>Addiction is a brain disorder characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli,

>>133129710
you actualy fell for the ebin weed meme? i smoked it once a long time ago and quit afterwards.

Weed actually fucks with your brain without some kind of "treatment", toxins and shit, they say that they use as some kind of "med", but to be honest, they just want to get (((high))).

>>133127778
>Why do (((they))) want to legalize weed so bad?

so when you die it will really be your own fault for believing lies

>>133128914
Wow 4chan is actually retarded. It's obvious you've never tried it or looked up anything about it. Because then you'd be less ignorant.

>>133129879
Of course everything depends on how much you like the effect. I'd say 4 out of 10 people can develop a taste for it.

Weed is the tits bro

>>133129710
Thanks for the advice, I have a vaporizer but don't use it as much as I should I always find myself smoking bowls instead. Ill go back to it for a bit and see how I feel, it conserves a shit ton anyway too so maybe it is a better choice. My question to you is, do you have any trouble moderating it once you are already stoned? I feel like a majority of my smoking comes from already being high and wanting to keep the high going. If I am occupied for the day and haven't smoked I find I don't have many problems with it.

>>133129879
Only because you have no friends. Friendless wonders can't get weed and want to punish everyone else for their unpopularity.

>>133127904
As a long term smoker who quit few months ago after toking daily for 10-ish years, so much this.

People really underestimate the power of weed. It may be far less physically harmful than alcohol but the things it does to your mind are quite obvious for anyone who meets potheads often. It's almost like I feel fully awake for the first time in years after I stopped smoking that shit.

>>133129879
Not having weed is like girl breaks up with you pain

Not having heroine is like a massive flu AND girl breaks up with you pain

(((They))) don't. (((They))) spend millions on keeping weed illegal.

>>133129850
>'it's medicine man'

dont you find it annoing that the stoner fags always say it treats cancer without giving proof?

it ironically didnt help bob marley.

>>133130085
nice basseles assumption there autismo.

>>133130169
I've never heard anyone ever say it treats cancer
Sauce needed

>>133130037
a friend offered it to me once we both smoked it did not realy like it i never understood why the ebin weed meme is so popular.

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>>133129065
This

(((Big pharma))) has way more to lose if its legal or just medically legal

50,000 whites die each year from pain pill overdoses

Switch them to weed for pain treatment and you can save 50,000 white lives

>>133127778

the real elephant in the room is what if we discover that concentrated weed oil can cure certain cancers that have been getting treated with chemo and patients dying for like 80 years now,

what if we find out government conspired with industry to create an artificially inflated market using tax revenue

there will be hell to pay if we find out that was the case, there will be lawsuits galore, everyone whose sick granny could have been saved if non patent medicines were legal will be owed money by government and industry

I can't wait to see that

I mean doctors are useless if their industry can't exist without free government money right?

>>133130070
>My question to you is, do you have any trouble moderating it once you are already stoned?

This depends entirely on the quality of the bud. A strong plant makes sure you don't even want to overdo it.

>>133130118
so? it still is addictive.

>>133127778
It should be legal. Either you're full on Temperance and want to ban Alcohol, Tobacco, Opiates, and other drugs or you're a hypocrite.

>WEED SHOULD BE ILLEGAL CAUSE I DON'T LIKE STONERS
>but alcohol tobacco and oxycontin is totally okay goys trust me

You can't have it both ways. You can't allow much more dangerous and more addictive drugs to be legal, while simultaneously acting like someone who thought reefer madness was a documentary. And by the way (((they))) are very clearly divided on the issue. Alcohol and Tobacco (((lobbyists))) spend millions convincing senators and representatives to push back against federal legalization or declassification, but there are also (((lobbyists))) on the left that push for legalization. It's a wedge issue used to separate the goys, and fighting over it is only helping them.

>>133130111
Yea it wreaks havoc on your memory. Not everyone gets their motivation killed, but everyone's memory suffers when using pot

>>133130311
heres the burger.
>>133130343
(citation needed)

If traffic depends on illegal shit, this would not break the traffic?

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>>133130313
>a friend offered it to me once we both smoked it did not realy like it

did you inhale?

>>133130558
youre soposed to smoke it like a sigaret?
i just tought about how retarded i looked.

>>133130311
It's a lie through omission. Because something that makes you want to eat and sleep more is beneficial to someone undergoing chemo, which is actually treating the cancer. So they say it treats cancer.
>>133130169
>it ironically didnt help bob marley.
didn't he literally die of retardation from gangrene because he refused medical help on a basic injury?

>>133127904
fbbp

>>133130463
I've also found it fucks up your self-esteem and social comfort, especially if you're suffering from social anxiety. Being a stoned-out-your-mind introvert among a lot of people is fucking torture.

>>133128053
This guy right here completely understands it.

(((They))) control the pot question on both sides. They have people like OP and the Belgian in here who are anti-pot, so they force them into the cuckservative-pro war party. No use in going a 3rd party when you're that anti-pot.

Meanwhile, (((They))) force many people who want to end the drug war onto the left, to make them vote for libcuck candidates who are pro-welfare state and pro-war. (((They))) win either way.

The only way to beat them is to make it a non-issue that they can't divide people up with. Take away the marijuana question (along with other questions, like gay marriage) and see how quickly the tide turns against the establishment.

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>>133130714
>youre soposed to smoke it like a sigaret?

it works breddy good as a suppository

>>133130446
Prohibition didn't work with alcohol because it was already irreversibly ingrained in American culture.

Prohibition only proved that once you legalize drugs, there's no going back. It's a permanent decision, you can't just say "oopsies" when a relative dies of a heroin overdose.

>>133127778
Its a waste of time to try and stop Weed. its a fucking plant.

I want the methheads that will stab you for a dollar gone first please.

>>133130169
>>133130311

It's patented by our government

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507

>>133130825
>The only way to beat them is to make it a non-issue that they can't divide people up with. Take away the marijuana question (along with other questions, like gay marriage) and see how quickly the tide turns against the establishment.

most of these wedge issues revolve around issues of slavery

you can't do what you want with your body because the state owns your body type of bullshit

fuck (((THEM)))

>>133127904
fpbp

>>133130825
>the Belgian in here who are anti-pot,

>>133130313
read my post im not anti pot im just playing devils advocate.

>>133130347
>>133130070

>I can moderate my weed usage
>But only when I'm not smoking weed

THIS is why you don't fall for the moderation meme kids

>>133127778
Had it been (((they))) who is pushing for legalization it would already be legal in the entire western world. People should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, be it smoking weed or drinking diesel. Weed can be grown at home and used for many purposes, not only to get high but you can grow non-high weed plants and use for its medicinal uses. Why is that a bad thing? Do you want the criminal black guys dealing your white kids drugs in the streets? Why not just legalize private use as so many places already has and let them grow that shit themselves? No one is forcing you to participate, no need to be anti, just makes you sound like one of (((them))).

>>133127778
(((they))) made it illegal in the first place
>be 18, get harrassed by cops because you're an easy target
>get busted with a couple grams of weed
>forced into treatment program
media - "OMG look at all the young pot addicts in treatment, it's clearly evil"

>>133130825
>so they force them into the cuckservative-pro war party.


lol i dont even vote the belguim election system is a complete scam as its ruled mostly by pro eu party's the only right wing paty we have is a national joke (vlaams belang).

>>133131209
>I dont care if people start drinking diesel

WTF?

>>133127778
This is what I don't get. If they wanted to they would.

>>133127778
((they)) don't want to legalize weed at all you shit swine, all it would do is sieve off the feed from the great trough of pharmaceutical bullshit

>>133131241

Dis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwc9pBSsr7k

>>133127778

(((they))) don't, (((they))) want to keep it illegal you retard

weed was legal for thousands of years and never abused until it was made illegal, it was primarily used for hemp and the production that comes with the hemp plant not cannabis smoking

>>133130910
Regular people are already dying of opioids in America, and it primarily is effecting middle aged white people. The fact of the matter is that more harmful and more addictive drugs are already legal, and spending billions of dollars to arrest people, to lock them up, and to give up more civil liberties is not worth it.

I don't even like pot, but I hate the establishment much more. Marijuana was made a big deal by the government so they could then divide the population on the issue to force them into main stream political parties that ultimately are the same. Marijuana and hemp was used for hundreds of years all around the world, and it was really went after in the 70's. No one cared prior until then.

>>133128262
I smoke pot. I work with my hands. Much harder than the assholes trying to make it legal. If weed seems like it's that bad of a drug you are a pansy and should stay out of debating..

They want it to be illegal AND they want you to want it to be legal. Think about it

>>133131341
People already huff it to get high all the time, or maybe that's just gasoline

>>133128914
>thinking that LED is addictive
Kill yourself shill

>>133131341
why would anyone care if some retard starting drinking diesal

>>133131209
>Do you want the criminal black guys dealing your white kids drugs in the streets? Why not just legalize private use


un less the goverment can sell things at a cheaper price there wil always be a black market retard just look at the market for legal perscriptions.

>or drinking diesel.

what the fuck are you smoking? if you want to live in a lawless helhole move to somalia.

>>133131341
My point is, why would such a thing be illegal? It's not, but it might be fucking stupid. Let people do what pleases them.

>>133131519
his treatment will be payed by tax payer dollars.

>>133127778

Another weapon to numb you away from politics, and it further down away the chance for a fascist revolution.

>>133131519
>>133131486
>>133131573

So you guys have no problem living in a society where people literally drink diesel?

I dont get all these "It doesnt affect me" arguments. It only doesn't affect you, if you stay inside your house literally 24/7. Have you guys never been outside? Is that why you don't care about society?

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>>133127778

>You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews? What is the matter with them? I suppose it's because most of them are psychiatrists.

-Richard Nixon, May 26, 1971.

>>133129879
Theres a difference between psychological addiction, which is just being used to the routine of smoking daily, and physical addiction, where your bodily functions have become dependent on an outside chemical. Dont be retarded on purpose.

Shit like delirium tremens is an example of extreme physical addiction.

>>133128914
>Serious withdrawal
>hardcore stuff like LSD
are you retarded? I think you are retarded

>>133131558

>un less the goverment can sell things at a cheaper price there wil always be a black market retard just look at the market for legal perscriptions.

or the same price as the black market. look at america's dispensaries, they sell high quality bud for near-street level prices (varies depending on quality and strain)

in the netherlands you get people selling weed illegally, only to those not old enough to go buy it. just like those who do the same with alcohol, there is no stopping that really

>>133128914
God damn! Hey guys I found a new level of stupid!!!

>>133128914
Shit tard found a new level of stupid and took it to full retard...

>>133131700
okay nigger, how the fuck am I gonna stop someone from drinking diesal, seriously what kind of retard argument are you trying to say here

>>133131765
Alcoholics don't drink because of delirium tremors lol thats just an excuse. If it were only the physical symptoms then no would ever be addicted to anything. Psychological addiction is THE deciding factor and the only reason people get addicted.

>>133131700

>So you guys have no problem living in a society where people literally drink diesel?

people drink alcohol and thats just as bad so yeah, if some redneck irish nigger wants to drink diesel let them. natural selection.

why should a government say if you can or cant drink diesel?

fyi drinking diesel is still not illegal

>>133131895

>Psychological addiction is THE deciding factor and the only reason people get addicted.

tell that to opiate addicts who start to have fits and other withdrawal symptoms

>>133131700
>It doesnt affect me" arguments. It only doesn't affect you


a good rebutal to the standerd lolbertarian i doesnt effect me argument is where does freedom end and mental illnes start?

>>133131871
>>133131916

Its not illegal because no one does it. If there was a huge movement of people drinking diesel then yeah I'd want to stop it. Personally I think drug addicts should be shot.

But my point is, how the fuck does that not effect you? You step outside and you're surrounded by retards drinking diesel, that OBVIOUSLY effects you, so don't argue that principle.

>>133129065
This.. and alcohol companies too. For that person that wants to still be considered a "good" person by following the rules, but still wants to momentarily step out of the harsh reality that is life.. but drinking is too hardcore and far worse of a "drug" than some weed..

>>133132013
Most of them make it past the fits. They relapse when they have the strength to get more heroin ie. when they have gotten past the fits and other withdrawal symptoms.

It is psychological. The physical pains are their sob stories to get you to be nice to them so you'll give them money for "food"

>>133131916
>people drink alcohol and thats just as bad

>alchohol is as bad as drinking diesel.

british education

why should a government say if you can or cant drink diesel?

the goverment will have to take care of youre rotting corpse after you die from drinking litral pioson the govermnt if you survive will have th-o waste resources treating you the goverment would need to seperate you from youre family and put you in a loony bin to be treated.

>>133132172
It doesnt effect me because no one drinks diesel you fucking retard, even if they did, I probably wouldnt know about it, if someone walked up to me and started drinking diesal I would get away from the crazy cunt and he would die end of story

>>133130818
>can't even appreciate the fact that's he's getting high in homogeneous country
Nigga

>>133129139
No you're fucked.. shit tards like you are why we can't have nice things...

>>133132463
no one, means not the vast majority btw

>>133132172
he doesnt realize that his tax payer dollars would go to treating diesel drinkers he also doesnt seem to realize that drinking diesel is deadly so there would be corpses everywhere.

>>133132463
Okay, you do realise that people DO use drugs right? In growing numbers. You're only proving me right lol

>>133129155
It's all because of how cheap and renewable it is. And multi functional

>>133132172

>Its not illegal because no one does it

so why was cannabis legal for years before they realised hemp would compete with paper, pharma, oil and the steel industry?

>Personally I think drug addicts should be shot.

almost everyone is a drug addict, alcohol is a drug, tobacco, medicine, sugar, salt, caffeine... you are probably addicted to a substance but don't realize it.

everything is addictive, even food. no different to how drugs affect you

>But my point is, how the fuck does that not effect you? You step outside and you're surrounded by retards drinking diesel,

replace diesel with alcohol, and then tell me why that is allowed

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Hitler would've realized the benefits.

14 ! 88 HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG 14 ! 88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Oj2j5ck2U

ISRAEL CARRIED OUT SEPTEMBER 11TH & THE USS LIBERTY HOLOCAUSTS AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCoxM8MFJ0Y

Hitler Was Right!

>>133132567
Snoop dog bases his entire identity around this and yet has nice things handed to him on a chrome platter.
Niggers are why we can't have nice things, never forget that.
He wouldn't have even lit up if we didn't have the nigger problem

why are people talking about drinking gasoline wtf is this thread

>>133132309

>the goverment will have to take care of youre rotting corpse after you die from drinking litral pioson

alcohol is "literal poison"

drinking enough alcohol will kill you, as will drinking enough diesel. small amounts of either substance will give you a "tipsy" poisoned feeling

>if you survive will have th-o waste resources treating you the goverment would need to seperate you from youre family and put you in a loony bin to be treated.

so why is alcohol still legal?

>>133129298
Agreed. But "they" aren't legalizing it for the tards that sit at home all day and smokeZ they are doing it for the responsible people that don't want to get drunk. And for tax $

>>133132639
I didnt diesel is a fucking drug now

>>133132463
>It doesnt effect me because no one drinks diesel
becuase its deadly for the same reason we institutionalize the mad and the suicidal.


almost everyone is a drug addict, alcohol is a drug, tobacco, medicine, sugar, salt, caffeine... you are probably addicted to a substance but don't realize it.

>comparing herione to salt and food witch is essential to life.

>>133127904
Slovenia has it all figured out

>>133129764
But so true...

>>133128168
>Paying to treat pot addicts
Not even remotely necessary. Marijuana is a mental addiction and withdrawal don't exist for it. Regular smokers can easily go a few days or weeks without the devil's lettuce.

>>133132806
Around micks, beware tricks.
Don't let your tiny bit of Irish blood fool you, we're not like them, they're not like us.

>>133132751
Some cunt compared drugs to drinking diesel and the cunts to stupid to realize that isnt an argument

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>>133128168
Funny... I didn't think there would be an actual reply here.

Liberals love taxing everything. Why not soemthing that makes billions in the first few months of its legalization? Look up Colorado and Washington statistics for money collected through taxation in just the first couple months of recreational legalization in these and more areas.

>>133129298

+1 here my stomach shrunk over the past few years, i can only manage 1 meal a day usually and some odd snacks. when i don't smoke, i can only eat a few mouthfuls for the entire day and i will feel sick for the whole day

ive also found it very difficult to sleep since i hit my teens until i started smoking

it was bud or pills, im choosing a plant

my country doesnt have any laws
if you kill someone no one bats an eye
if you rape someone no one cares
you can get AK47s for as cheap as 5 dollars
weed is a dollar a gram here
the government is legit corrupt here and doesnt care that they have little to no laws

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>>133132238

Coors, Budweiser, and Miller not diversifying after legalization with their own brand of weed

Also people will still continue to drink alcohol

>>133127904
The populace is already dumb enough, I've been smoking weed everyday since May 2nd and I have not been really productive in the last two months. I am quitting weed today, but since I have interests in the weed market I would say it is more about the money than anything else.

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This is real withdrawal, you fucks.

>>133132794
you are so wrong on that. I live in CO and am just took a dab, about to go forge a fucking sword from a leaf spring.
Eat Shit.

>>133132780
Exactly!!

>>133132660
>muh industry.
I don't give a shit. Hemp is legal.

>alcohol is a drug,
Yup
>tobacco
Yup
>Medicine
Yup
>Caffeine
Yup
>Sugar, salt
They're not drugs retard hahahaha
>everything is addictive
To different extents yeah.

>replace diesel with alcohol, and then tell me why that is allowed
Because too many people drink alcohol to get rid of it. Alcohol is a HUGE problem and causes more deaths than most other drugs BECAUSE it is legal and used so frequently. Thats an argument for MY side not yours lol

>>133132938
the withdrawel is that they get more irritated easily cus they want some dank, but yeah they can cold turkey weed and not have the shakes thats for sure

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>>133127778
>Op doesn't smoke weed

>>133132980
Are you white?
Explains why they don't care.
If you are, just become a fisherman and sail to Australia selling cheap weed and maybe have someone build you a home on some Island near there to live out your days in peace.

>>133132854

>comparing herione to salt and food witch is essential to life.

nobody mentioned heroin

do you understand how the drug addiction process works?

monkey does something, dopamine is released. monkey feels good. we must keep getting dopamine to keep feeling good

guess what, *excess* salt, sugar and food all cause dopamine rushes. just why do you think obese people are so fucking fat? because they are hungry and its essential to life?

>>133128168
>cannabis
>addicts
is belgium truly the little made up meme country that I think that it is? wtf do they teach you euro poors

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>>133128914
>people took this bait
good job

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>>133132977
As an addendum - phytocannabinoids can dampen or even reverse types of social engineering. There are many drugs that reverse these things. In studying MK, you'll find that many types of SE are induced via psychosis and trauma, often enacted under the influence of a few types of drugs.

>>133133087
>Hemp is legal.
Not in the USA.

>>133132780
>so why is alcohol still legal?

alchohol is ingrained in our culture thats why its almost inpossible to root it out its a massive problem.

>drinking enough alcohol will kill you,

do you realy want to play this game of cat and mouse?

>>133127778
all the stoner stay home and guess goes out and votes?

>>133133222
>Being slightly overstimulated and having a natural reward response is the same as injecting/inhaling chemicals that mimic neurotransmitters and flooding your brain with more chemicals than it ever evolved to handle

>>133133222
>monkey does something, dopamine is released. monkey feels good. we must keep getting dopamine to keep feeling good

>the bong doesnt understand how diffrent things are more addictive than others.

>>133133304
We're not talking about hemp though we're talking about weed. So the industry argument is irrelevant. Go argue for the legalisation of hemp in another thread.

>>133133210
im lebanese but my mom is from eastern europe. but legit lebanon is a shit hole, sure it has some nice european architecture here and there but its such a fucking shithole from how bad the government is
>doesnt care how ISIS is literally at our border
>wastes money on useless stuff
>doesnt legalize weed but doesnt do anything about it
we're legit stuck in the 60s-90s from how bad this country is
only thing that lebanon has to offer is the women and the food

>>133127904
Pot is a nigger drug. It's for nigs. If you smoke pot you are a degenerate piece of shit and will literally end up as a failure, no hyperbole.

Dindus are easy to control cuz they're stupid and as long as they have weed and Hennessy and lean they'll be fine.

>>133130137
This.
Commodity lobbyists throw cash at drug war politicians

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>>133133321
>voting
kys if you think this meme makes a difference
specially after this election.
FUCKING MORON

>>133127778
You've got it reversed. (((They))) would rather you spend money on pharmaceuticals. I haven't had a headache in 25 years. That's a lot of shekels (((they're))) not getting for aspirin.

>>133133433
>monkey does something, dopamine is released, monkey feels good
>monkey has idea
>monkey injects 30ccs of straight dopamine into its brain
>MY MONKEY MY RULES
>Monkey tries to moderate dopamine injections with 15ccs in an attempt to remain healthy
>Monkey still having mental issues
>Monkey doesn't understand

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>>133127778
It's illegal?

If you found a plant that could cure disease like cancer, chronic pain, and boost creative thinking, would you kill anyone who tried to use it, or pour water on it?

>>133133087

>I don't give a shit. Hemp is legal.

is it? can you go and grow your own hemp right now?

no, you can't

>Sugar, salt
>They're not drugs retard hahahaha

drug: A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

sugar and salt do just that. eat enough sugar, you get alot of energy/sugar rush. i wonder why...

>Because too many people drink alcohol to get rid of it. Alcohol is a HUGE problem and causes more deaths than most other drugs BECAUSE it is legal and used so frequently.

under prohibition do you really think that stopped people drinking alcohol?

>>133133306

yeah i'll play that game. i don't like alcohol, it's horrible and i quit drinking a long time ago. but i will not impede someones right to poison themself if they want to so badly.

>>133133371

>than it ever evolved to handle

then why does the human brain have cannabinoid receptors for "muh chemicals"?

>>133133433

>the bong doesnt understand how diffrent things are more addictive than others.

not quite a refute to the argument, you can be addicted to anything is my point. people get addicted to eating fluff and other shit for fuck sake

Other way around really weed is fucking goat drug boomers are somehow immortal and not dieing

>>133133481
And the Ocean, and the freedom to escape. I have neither.
Enjoy your life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG960gmNiKY

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>>133133438
Well Mr. Irishman, fyi here in the state cannabis, hemp, weed, and pot are all treated the same. And btw, if you don't think the pharma industry is keeping weed illegal, you are wrong.

>>133133691
you can buy hemp products anywhere you want, go look up hemp on amazon

>>133127778
>Jewish lawmakers and Jew controlled politicians 90 percent against marijuana
>WHY DO DA JOOS WANNA LEGALYZE WIID XDDDDddddd

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>>133133660

>>133133817

that doesn't answer my question.

can you grow your own hemp right now? yes or no?

>>133133660
>pour water on it?
fuck that, I would just smoke it lol

>>133127904
>weed dumbs down populace
>alcohol doesn't
>implying you aren't just butthurt that you got bullied in school

>>133133731
closest and safest country we have next to us is cyprus which isnt bad
>ISIS/syrians is at your border
>mossad is in your country
>you'd be detained to go to israel
>southern turkey is a shit hole

>>133129129
>not knowing what physical addiction is

What a tard

>>133127778
Because as a drug it's less dangerous than alcohol (for adults) and is a mostly untapped market that makes a lot of money through taxation.

>>133133016
This. I have a severely alcoholic friend who quit drinking after a life-changing event 4th of July weekend and when I saw him a few days later he was all twitchy and shit. I thought he was on drugs or something. I hope he gets better over time, because that shit ruins your life when you drink as much as he did.

>>133128168
>cost of treating addicts
>implying we treat cigarette and alcohol addicts

pot's literally no worse than booze and if you don't support its legalization you damn well better support prohibition becoming a thing again or you're a massive hypocrite.

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>>133127778
READ THIS BOOK

>>133133691
You're INCREDIBLY reductionist definition of drug defines EVERY molecule in the universe as a drug. You're just trying to reduce everything to absurdity. Typical leftists tactic. That's what they do with genders.

>prohibition do you really think that stopped people drinking alcohol
Well they didnt shoot people that drank so they didnt go all the way. Also its already VERY ingrained in our culture. Almost everyone has drunk, where as most people havent smoked weed so we can still stop that.

Also: Ugh . . . . Your brain does not have cannibinoid receptors for THC you fucking MORON, they have cannibinoid receptors for CANNIBINOIDS as the name would imply. Your brain has opiod receptors too do you think that means its okay to inject heroin?

>>133133854
, the man who claimed hemp was legal was most likely referring to the products, ive seen a kid using hemp lotion on a highschool campus. Growing it is illegal if you live in a state where it is illegal, so depending on where you live hemp is perfectly legal I can grow it rn

>>133133691
>but i will not impede someones right to poison themself if they want to so badly.


>right to pioson himself.

what the fuck are you talking about nigger piosoning yourself isnt a right.
not to mention its a massive drain on the welfare system to trait these retards and also the yearly damiges that drugs cuase it should be stigmatized and rightfully so.

>>133129129
>smoking weed everyday is harmful
Oh wait, it's not
What's harmful is being a lazy fuck with no drive or work ethic

>>133133754
Of course they are keeping it illegal. Just because some jews want something illegal doesnt mean it should be legal though. You will just as easily be manipulated if you do the direct opposite of what they want all the time as if you did what they want all the time.

>>133127904
Fpbp

>>133134053
>the government has the right to put you in jail for inhaling smoke from a plant that your ancestors all smoked
Cuck confirmed

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>>133127778
We make a good buck of it

>>133134081
>Oh wait, it's not

>The brains of chronic users produce less dopamine
http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223%2813%2900502-7/abstract

>Casual use alters the nucleus accumbans, associated with reward and pleasure
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/casual-marijuana-smoking-linked-to-brain-changes-041614


>Marijuana lowers IQ
http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/

>cannabis-impaired approximately doubles car crash risk and that around one in 10 regular cannabis users develop dependence. Regular cannabis use in adolescence approximately doubles the risks of early school-leaving and of cognitive impairment and psychoses in adulthood. Regular cannabis use in adolescence is also associated strongly with the use of other illicit drugs. These associations persist after controlling for plausible confounding variables in longitudinal studies.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12703/abstract

>>133127778
(((They))) don't want it to be legal, or it would be, you retard.

>>133134225
Archive

>http://forbes com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq
https://archive.is/5gCDm

>>133133494
You sound like a loser anon.
Most people just grow out of it desu

Who wants to legalize it? As far as I know, they still lock people up and ruin people's lives because of it. ((They)) are the real hippies.

me want the sweet peaceful herb, me want that sticky sticky herb mon,the white Babylon devil speaking lies about the peaceful herb mon it is a gift from earth mon ithe ting cures all bad mojo mon, don't believe Babylon lies

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>>133134196
>your ancestors all smoked


are you pretending to be mentaly retarded?

Cannabis sativa appears naturally in many tropical and humid parts of the world.

>>133134043

>You're INCREDIBLY reductionist definition of drug

it isnt my definition but sure

>defines EVERY molecule in the universe as a drug.

not really, just those that effect the central nervous system. you can injest a small amount of metal and it won't really effect you or release you any dopamine

>You're just trying to reduce everything to absurdity. Typical leftists tactic. That's what they do with genders.

not really, and i'm not a "leftist". i don't see how a definition is absurdity because it doesn't fit with your world view

>>133134050

so depending on where you live hemp is perfectly legal I can grow it rn

well no shit but in the UK you cant, in most of the US you can't and in most of the entire world you can't without a state approved license like a good goy

>>133134053

>what the fuck are you talking about nigger piosoning yourself isnt a right.

so being able to do what you want with yourself is not a human right?

you must ask big daddy government to be able to drink today?

>>133127904
Weed literally kills people indirectly. Nom saying? You're fighting for who is more conscious. Turns out people who die due to smoking don't die directly from the smoking they lose their minds. Nom saying?
>Protip: You don't

Weed raises Eostrogen:
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf

Weed Causes Long Term Cognitive Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19630708
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/

Weed Causes Depression And Anxiety Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23795762
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14616175
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032500/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149055/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773900
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10750321

Weed Causes Psychotic Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007222

Weed Causes Cancer:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

Children of Fathers that Smoke Weed More Likely To Suffer Sudden Infant Death Syndrome:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434841

Weed causes lung damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16128224
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24384575

>>133134225
>look at how harmful weed is
>Enjoy things less when sober
>you can die while driving(never seen before)

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>>133134134
So I should not be allow to cure myself of serious illnesses?

>>133134276
Or murdering, it's apart of their daily lives.
>>133134262
Just like Snow Niggers 1000 years ago

>>133133922
t. junkie

>>133134413
Light bounces off every molecule in front of you, enters your eye, and effects your central nervous system. So yes literally EVERYTHING.

DUDE

>>133133854
>can you grow your own hemp right now? yes or no?
The US federal government will buttfuck you if they find out. We get our hemp from Canafags instead.

>>133134421

good goy government approved funding from a country that started reefer madness and the outlawing of cannabis and hemp

you realise how biased these studies are, right?

i bet you believe smoking a joint kills brain cells

>>133134478
Weed causes cancer. They managed to kill some cancer cells in vitro in a lab with it but in all human studies show it causes cancer

>>133134225
No shit, everything you use to Essen the nerves and mind has a negative effect
Point being that humans always have and always will look for mind altering substances, and marijuana happens to Be the best of the bunch.
I smoke about 3 times a week give or take and am at a great college on scholarship and will likely become a chemical engineer or something of the like.

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>>133127778
they are using state-level weed laws to crowbar in some bullshit about states rights - which should tell you exactly who wrote the law and why they are shit-tier laws that oppose dea
here in wa sleazy republicans wrote the whole package or else they would block the fuck out of it like before.
so we got a shit law that taxes weed at 25percent three separate times in the process, not even the alcohol industy would put up with that shit but its really just a throwaway gambit to attack federal power over the nation.
if it wasn't a state vs fed issue - they'd shut it all down REAL FUCKING QUICK and we'd all be asking random fucks if they know where to get weed on the black market again.

it's not (((them))) its the southern strategy all modernized and sheeit mang
they want a nation of state governers ruling their states like little feudal kingdumbs with slaves

THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT HAVING SLAVERY
can you dig it
actually serious about torturing ppl to death LEGALLY on any excuse
just be RICH and you will be allowed to live unless they can take your money because they'd rather have it that way of course

>>133127778

because it's same as consuming tobacco and alcohol, but safer and no deaths

>>133134533

but its not the molecule entering my central nervous system, its a ray of light...

by your logic simply looking at cannabis will get you high

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>>133134617
>Weed causes cancer.
Kek. Wrong. Enjoy your chemo.

>>133134617

> in all human studies show it causes cancer

im pretty sure thats just the smoking of it not cannabis itself. theres many ways to ingest

>>133132660
Just as many people smoke as they do drink. You're a literal retard who can't even see his own hypocrisy.

>>133134413
>so being able to do what you want with yourself is not a human right?


so cutting yourself isnt a reason to institutionalize then?

so we should not treat drug addicts?
so should we leave the mentaly ill to themselfes?

>>133134600
You didn't read a single one did you? They're from all over the world not just the US.

>>133134725
Still fits your definition. It is a "chemical substance that affects your nervous system"

>>133134701
>Safer
>No deaths
A

>>133133494
Pot is a universal drug. The thinking man and the nig nog can both enjoy it. I will admit that getting completely stoned often is terrible for you, but not in a physical health sense like alcohol, cocaine, etc.

>>133134775
its becuase youre still smoking it.

there are other methods of consuming pot tho.

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>>133127778
They need control of it so goyim won't discover it's true spiritual use.

>>133134834
Light is not a chemical substance.

>>133134775
If someone takes cocaine and has a heart attack then it is labeled as a contributing factor. If someone smokes weed all their life and then gets cancer it isnt recorded as a cannabis related death. Thats why there are 0 recorded deaths from it.

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>>133127778
To sedate, distract, and dumb down the masses so they don't wake up & recognize ((((their)))) bullshit. A person who's inebriated & only concerned about getting high isn't going to care enough to investigate the world around them and question those around them. Let alone train themselves physically & mentally, organize politically, and be a good family role model.

tl;Dr- weed has a high chance of turning you into a fucking degenerate good goy

>>133132538
nigger

>>133134810
Well pretty much every single weed user smokes it so thats irrelevant

>>133129139
You're not addicted to weed. You just suck as a person

>>133128897
I don't know about that, sure for someone with a weak personality who get addicted to things too easily like my boyfriend, but for someone like me. I smoke only at night before bed, have been for the past 2 years. I smoke to fall asleep. That is all. And if I do not have it for a day, yeah its annoying but a week I'm fine. A month, I'm fine.

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>>133135044

>>133127778
If they really wanted it to be then it would be legal. You're a fucking moron. Otherwise (((they))) don't have as much power as they're given credit for having. Right? right.

>>133134404
>call me retarded
>regurgitates my point
I think you misunderstood me

>>133134993
Getting high in a homogeneous country and going days without seeing non-whites sounds amazing.

>>133134957
Okay so when you shoot someone its the gun that killed them, not you?

The fact that we are even arguing this shows how useless and reductive that definition was

>>133127904
I want to punch every nu-/pol/ reddit kid in the face starting with you

>>133134909
Why is that tree so angry?

>>133135044
Junkies are horrible people too, but you have no problem blaming the heroin for that.

>>133131277
>lol i dont even vote the belguim election system is a complete scam

I heard the Belgium royal family are openly pedophile

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>>133134974
Wrong.

>>133134815

leaf, perhaps provide a proper response rather than "you're a literal retard"

what point did i make that is hypocritical? i am aware there are many smokers and drinkers, what is your point? i am not arguing against smoking or drinking, as i said in other posts i believe every human has a right to smoke or drink themselves to death with whatever substance they want if they choose so

>>133134820

>so cutting yourself isnt a reason to institutionalize then?

if they want to be, sure, let them. if they want to die, let them. who are we to decide?

>so we should not treat drug addicts?

if they want help, we can supply it. if they don't want help, it shouldn't be forced

>so should we leave the mentaly ill to themselfes?

this is a tough question because of how broad "mentally ill" is, if they are physically or mentally incapable of performing basic human actions yet they want to live, it would make sense to help them

if they dont want help, and they understand themselves that they dont want help, then don't force it upon them

>>133134834

dude light is not a chemical substance

>>133134834

>They're from all over the world not just the US.

all from good goy governments that got onboard with the US's reefer madness. would you like me to show you studies that said otherwise that then had funding pulled?

>>133127778
>Why do (((they))) want to legalize weed so bad?
why do you want to ruin peoples lives and throw them in jail because of a weed?

>>133134957
It can create a chemical reaction though.

>>133127778
I'll have you know I took my first drug awareness class in 9th grade. It was mandatory threw the local school system. I learned about the effects of all the different drugs upon the user. From alcohol to heroin to cigarettes to sugar to Government Dope. I bought my first "Hightimes" magazine when I was 18 years old because I wanted to further study the reasons why people use cannabis. The information was amazing. I never knew regular treatments from a cannabis compound could stop a little girl. Who would have 10-15 epileptic seizures a day to just one episode a month. There has also be other discoveries of cannabis with cancer treatment. Yet the USA and it criminalistic laws against cannabis forbids those kinds of treatments in the USA because Uncle SAM wants to tax people for DOCTOR visits and Government DOPE medications. I study Biology at the University of Oxford. I have never used cannabis and I am not sure I will unless I feel I need to. So here you go!

"I don't smoke marijuana, but I think it should be legalized."

ANON 2017

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They don't

but this is just taqiyya or something right

>>133135154
Yeah man before all the reddit shills /pol/ was a beautiful place we just smoked weed all day and chilled before all these nu/pol/ racist squares came in

>>133135210
>I heard the Belgium royal family are openly pedophile

no there not there quite shady tho.

>>133127904

>studies proven once a substance gets legalized the usage of it barely goes up

>the populace stays the same

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>>133135262
What a well thought out and informed post.

Is this real /Pol/?

Also

Anti weed people are loners that didn't get invited to parties and rely off bs online

>>133128914
Yeah, no. I've been smoking daily for 8 years and I go weeks without smoking without any issues to get my tolerance to drop again.

>>133135399

just look at the netherlands, they are doing pretty well in terms of education (everyone speaks english pretty much, aswell as dutch and maybe german and french), have some of the best schools in europe and are doing well as a country despite the EU cuckoldry

>>133135223
Can you think past more than one step jesus christ? Your definition didnt say chemical that DIRECTLY affects the central nervous system, it said affects the central nervous system. If light bounces off a molecule, then that molecule affects the light, indirectly then affecting your central nervous system.

Do you see how fucking absurd this is? The tiniest thing affects your central nervous system. That definition is so retarded

>would you like me to show you studies that said otherwise that then had funding pulled?

Oh this is gonna be good lol.

>>133134981
Nobody is forcing you to smoke m8. And everyone who would smoke if it was legal already smokes.

>>133128418
This. As pointed out by others, weeds makes those of "frail minds" addicted, complacent and lazy. Imagine weed being free, and what this would do to the welfare-queenz and kangz in the US. They would get ever more complacent, and even more devoted to the democrats. (Well, though less of them might show up to vote, what do I know.)

I never understood why /pol/ cherry picks this issue that much. Yeah some people will abuse *stuff* wether it's food, sex, drugs, sport etc.. If /pol/ applied their logic for drugs to all areas we'd all be forbidden to eat because there are an epidemic of obese cunts in the US.

>>133135510
>Having a dumbed down, inebriated degenerate population isnt a problem

Why do you even discuss politics at all?

>>133130910
Shit man, if you look back weed or even coke were also in the culture. Why do you think it was called Coca cola?

>>133135223
>if they want to be, sure, let them. if they want to die, let them. who are we to decide?


what is mental illnes?
what is deppresion?

> if they don't want help, it shouldn't be forced
so they crowd the streets and beg for money? like in antwerp.

>if they dont want help, and they understand themselves that they dont want help, then don't force it upon them

if a shizo hears vioces in his head and hes dangerous even if he refuses help institutionalizing for everybody's safety thats how you prevent spree killers for one.


a better example a mudshit is ovuisly becoming radicalized he refuses rehabilitation would you let him?

lets stop shtposting and reach some common ground ok?

>>133135623
Except you can eat in moderation and be healthy. Smoke weed in "moderation" and what you get is moderate brain damage.

>>133135197
>making implications
No, junkies are shit people.
See, smoking marijuana for relaxation and some extra laughs isn't the same as snorting or shooting heroin to try to ignore the world, and to subconciously self destruct.

>>133135182
It fell down.

The only people Ive seen addicted to weed, were people who also had other psych issue with them. anxiety/depressed people seem to become fixated because it makes them feel better. your average Joe couldnt get hooked unless he tried to

>>133135658
Less than 15% of people ever smoke weed in their entire lives you know. Its a lot less common than you think.

>>133135658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwi41c-xTI&index=4&list=PLvq88AkbdvLjgDhuK0ftHbkq3kU_DEMEl

So is battle. Northern Germanic Warriors used to battle Nature and I do so nearly every day.

>>133135502

you are really grasping at straws here, you are implying that because the definition did not have the word "directly" it must mean "indirectly"

the logical fallacy is intense with this one

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>>133127778
I like to molest people when people are under the influence of weed, I know they love it.

>>133135641
>responding to a straw man

>>133135738
Hey man, injecting heroin to relax and chill for a bit isnt the same as being a junkie on the street.

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>>133135182
It was hit with a lightning blade spell many moons ago. I plan to finish the job with my greatsword.

>>133135269
of course this gets no replies

keep yelling in your echo chamber about the evil saturday morning cartoon villainous jews.

btw I'm a shareblue jidf ctr shill so don't waste your time telling me I am

>>133135658
>Shit man, if you look back weed or even coke were also in the culture. Why do you think it was called Coca cola?


the reason drugs where made illigal in the early 1900 was becuase massive amount of people where dying from overdose.


.At the end of the 19th century in both America and Britain, opium and morphine were popular for medical and recreational purposes. While heroin was first derived at about this time by boiling morphine, it would be a while before it too would become a popular drug.

Working-class families in England used opium for all types of illnesses and injuries. Coughs (common for those with tuberculosis or pneumonia), sleeplessness or injuries would be soothed by these drugs. Many of those who supplied the drug were not doctors, and overdoses were not unusual. Some mothers who gave the drug to calm fussy babies inadvertently killed them by giving too much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

ill post some more citations.

>>133135700

what is mental illnes?

this is why i said to you it is a hard one to judge, on the one hand i believe people should be free to do whatever they want no matter the cost to themselves (not others)

but on the other alot of people don't even realise they are mentally ill to begin with

>so they crowd the streets and beg for money? like in antwerp.

there are heroin users who are pretty rich and successful, infact i'm sure theres alot more rich/working drug addicts than beggars otherwise the dealers would be out of business

in reality you could be begging for anything for any reason not just drugs

>if a shizo hears vioces in his head and hes dangerous even if he refuses help institutionalizing for everybody's safety thats how you prevent spree killers for one.

oh i see, prevent... yes because schizos will just tell you they hear voices and gladly submit to an insane asylum....

>>133135925
But it is, and marijuana smokers don't become junkies on the streets regardless.
Double false equivalency, congrats, must've been hard to construct such a fallacy

>>133135823
No, I'm saying that because the word didnt have "directly" in it means that it doesnt discriminate between indirect and direct so both are acceptable and you cant add arbitrary qualifiers on afterwards especially after using it so rigidly against me.

Also:
>define sugar as a drug
>IM the one thats grasping at straws
Kek

>>133135950

It got no replies because everyone knows it's not the fucking ultraorthodox jews trying to push this shit, retard. It's the atheist jews or only nominally Jewish Jews who are involved in propagating this. Now fuck off, shill.

>>133135950
>>133135950
>I'm a shareblue jidf ctr shill
Duly noted. Your time is nearly up.

>>133135996
In the US, the liquid opium called laudanum was mostly used by women, as men could find relief in alcohol. Opium use accompanied the Chinese who came to the West to build railroads. Opium dens were therefore found in San Francisco and Denver, as well as other larger western cities.

When the Civil War came, morphine was the drug of choice to alleviate the terrible injuries of the soldiers. Doctors of the time had few tools or drugs. When a person was shot in the leg, the normal treatment was amputation. Morphine was the only thing that made the gunshot, amputation and recovery tolerable. But thousands of soldiers became addicted to the drug and remained addicted after the end of the war. Addiction to morphine became known as the “Soldier’s Disease.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War

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>>133136086

sugar is a drug... denying that is denying that cocaine is a drug

>>133136086
You are right, the anon you are arguing with is grasping at straws, doesn't make you right.

Everything I don't like is jewish.

Marijuana was invented by a jew.

Derp derp.

>>133136236

please tell me how sugar is not a drug

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>>133127778
The government is not your daddy. Stop sucking it's dick.

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>>133136102
>atheist jews

>>133136263

cry about it some more, Chaim

>>133136309
>>133136235

Jesus christ anon. Please stop taking drugs. It's clearly fucked up your thinking (Now I wait for when you inevitably pretend you're not taking drugs you are just arguing based on principle)

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>>133135996
>becuase massive amount of people where dying from overdose.
bull fucking shit.
you need to research the origins of these prohibitionist laws anon.
Find some proof that it was a rise in overdose deaths and not outright racially targeted as a motivation for the laws.

>>133136263
The problem is people see it being harnessed by the parasite and assume that it is a creation of the parasite.

>>133136465

you have yet to refute the argument that sugar is not a drug... just resorting to ad hominems now

>>133136054
>i believe people should be free to do whatever they want no matter the cost to themselves (not others)

so do you support this?
https://youtu.be/r7T6qU16fT4 [Embed]

>in reality you could be begging for anything for any reason not just drugs

drug addicts are very common in the bigger cities like antwerp and brussels there very easy to spot.

>yes because schizos will just tell you they hear voices and gladly submit to an insane asylum

its quite easy to spot a lunatic who is a danger to society the same reason why its easy to spot a radical mudshit.

>>133127778
Are you stoopid?
If they wanted it legal it wouldn't have been made illegal...
Consider the option of necking yaself

>>133136566
Why isn't a sugar a drug? I dont know anon. I really don't. Why isn't the sky green? Why don't we wear pants on our heads?

Some things are just unknowable.

>>133136538
In 1886, the popularity of the drug got a further boost when John Pemberton included coca leaves as an ingredient in his new soft drink, Coca-Cola. The euphoric and energizing effects on the consumer helped to skyrocket the popularity of Coca-Cola by the turn of the century.

From the 1850s to the early 1900s, cocaine and opium-laced elixirs (magical or medicinal potions), tonics and wines were broadly used by people of all social classes. Notable figures who promoted the “miraculous” effects of cocaine tonics and elixirs included inventor Thomas Edison and actress Sarah Bernhardt. The drug became popular in the silent film industry and the pro-cocaine messages coming out of Hollywood at that time influenced millions.

Cocaine use in society increased and the dangers of the drug gradually became more evident. Public pressure forced the Coca-Cola company to remove the cocaine from the soft drink in 1903.

By 1905, it had become popular to snort cocaine and within five years, hospitals and medical literature had started reporting cases of nasal damage resulting from the use of this drug.

In 1912, the United States government reported 5,000 cocaine-related deaths in one year and by 1922, the drug was officially banned.

ill find the stats.

>>133136568

>do you support

no i don't support what i consider to be degeneracy, but i won't allow the government to lock them up and harass them because of it

>drug addicts are very common in the bigger cities

no shit, how does that answer my point?

>its quite easy to spot a lunatic who is a danger to society the same reason why its easy to spot a radical mudshit.

is it? if it's so easy how do so many radical mudshits slip through the cracks? how do so many US school shootings happen? a schizo looks just like anyone else and will behave like anyone else, i assume you think the movies where they are twitching and slapping themselves talking into mirrors is what its like all the time for them

>>133136693

clearly you have lost the argument, gg irish nigger enjoy your potato farming

>>133136566
A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

>>133136950

tell me, what do you think happens when you ingest sugar?

you are aware people can be addicted to sugar, right? most people already are and don't realise it

>>133135942
I found many gemstones and a .03gram diamond under the root structure. I made an altar in front, planted some yams and snails. You may need a little more than your great sword, there's aethereal power here.

>>133136856
>but i won't allow the government to lock them up and harass them because of it


so youre fine with kiddie didlers and freaks manipulating kids to become trannyfaggots?

>is it? if it's so easy how do so many radical mudshits slip through the cracks?

il assume you have never been to molenbeek then?

>>133136950

>a chemical substance

check

>affects the central nervous system

check

>causes changes in behavior

check

>addiction

check

>>133136856
Definition of drug: A drug is any substance (other than food that provides nutritional support) that, when inhaled, injected, smoked, consumed, absorbed via a patch on the skin, or dissolved under the tongue causes a physiological change in the body.

OTHER than food. Sugar isn't a drug because when people came up with the word "drug" they decided not to call fucking potatoes and sweets drugs you moron. I can guarantee you that when OP made this thread he wasn't talking about fucking sugar.

>>133136950
>A chemical substance
yes
>such as a narcotic or hallucinogen
no, your wording wording admits to more possibilities
>that affects the central nervous system
yes
>causing changes in behavior
yes
>and often addiction
yes

>>133137078
>such as a narcotic or hallucinogen,

The term narcotic originally referred medically to any psychoactive compound with sleep-inducing properties.

A hallucinogen is a psychoactive agent which can cause hallucinations, perceptual anomalies, and other substantial subjective changes in thoughts, emotion, and consciousness
>>133137282

>>133137184
>being so mentally unstable and angry with life that you equate child groomers and molesters to marijuana users

>>133137184

>so youre fine with kiddie didlers and freaks manipulating kids to become trannyfaggots?

did you read what i said? i PERSONALLY am not fine with it. but if you want to dress up as a woman then do that, the government should not stop you

until they have actually diddled these kiddies, then law can be applied, your argument is just "wont somebody please think of the children"

>>133137184

i haven't been to belgium, its cuckold central next to sweden

>>133136568
>b-but if people do what they want then the kids will be fags
That's a nice false equivalence you got there.

>>133137226

>causes a physiological change in the body.

yep, sugar does that

>>133137226

They bring up sugar to obfuscate the discussion of "drugs". It's a tactic to redirect the argument towards some pedantic bickering over whether or not sugar is actually a drug. That way you're not arguing about actual drugs like weed, you're arguing about "well what even are drugs maaaan". Next time someone tries to divert the conversation like that, don't buy into it.

>>133137337
A carousel is an amusement park ride, SUCH AS roller coasters and swingboats, and yet it is neither.
Do you understand what I'm trying to tell you?

>>133137337

the wording of that definition does not limit it to just narcotics or hallucinogens

please learn english

>>133137352
>>being so mentally unstable and angry with life that you equate child groomers and molesters to marijuana users


>being so asshurt by a post on a mongolian webspinning forum that you make an angry reply to it.

why cant we just get along anon?

>>133137498

actually its the irish nigger that started arguing if its a drug or not, my initial point was that you can be addicted to almost anything even sugar

>>133137498
Though I disagree with you on principle, bringing up sugar being a drug is indeed a "DUDE WEED LMAO" Tier argument

>>133137419
>i haven't been to belgium, its cuckold central next to sweden

iropnic coming from the state who covered up the rotherdam rape scandal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

>>133137540

>why cant we just get along anon?

because you believe the government has a right to lock you up for smoking weed, and that is a terrible attitude to have

>>133137605

Yes, how profound, you can get addicted to sugar. Amazing. Glad we had to spend half the thread to arrive at that conclusion. Meanwhile, the discussion of the original topic has fizzled out. Well done.

>>133137194
Your problem is think definitions are prescriptive not descriptive. You are thinking like a Kraut.

Definitions describe concepts, they dont create the concepts. You arbitrarily calling sugar a drug is just detracting from the conversation. It's completely meaningless because NO ONE is talking about sugar. You could write complete gibberish in a post, redefine your gibberish to some internally consistent logic, and then declare yourself a winner but that's not how it works. You're still just a retard who typed a bunch of gibberish.

>>133137648

does anyone here read the thread? sugar was only one point and the irish nigger started that debate, not me

>>133128322
>>133129139
I quit anons. So can you.

>>133137737
>Sugar is a drug, do you want to outlaw sugar
>"No, sugar is not a drug"
>OMG guys this guy started arguing about whether sugar is a drug or not, not me!! !!!!!

>>133137713

refer to

>>133137737

>>133137714

> It's completely meaningless because NO ONE is talking about sugar

i mentioned it along with other substances and it is you that started to refute that point and argue about its validity

you have yet to disprove anything i've said and just respond with "dude light is a drug lmao bounce bounce retard"