> tfw hate stormfags but also the /ptg/ Kukistani cringecrowd

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/lrg/ is the place for you

>>133112815
You should learn to appreciate the individual contribution of all Goyim to /pol/.

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>>133112815
It sucks man.

>>133112815
>>133113463

>tfw found the shills openly

>>133112815
>stormfags
Fuck off back to red.dit faggot

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>>133112815
If we were in charge of the world there wouldn't be any more /ptg/ Kekistanis....just saying.

We'd probably even give you guys (lolbergs and ancaps) a swath of land to try your cute little system in if we took over, since you have no intentions or means of threatening us.

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>>133112815
>be a shitty weeb that gobbles liberal propaganda cock
i bet you're a trapfapper as well

faggit

>>133113527
>following loser ideologies

>>133113083
>8
this

>>133113615
>/ptg/ is bad now

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>>133112815
Why does /a/ think it's okay to post here?

>>133113615
fuck off, your kind doesn't deserve to inherit the west

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>>133114288
I mean....it's not "good", it's the hand we've been dealt I suppose. I voted for Trump and all that, but implying that Trump or (((civic nationalism))) is going to solve our problems is retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pgnng3bVlc

>>133114288
>now
It has always been, you reddit transplant

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>>133114401
>my kind
You mean White people who care about each other, and about the future of our people?

Newsflash: lolbergs are 95% non-hispanic Whites. You're already on our team you just don't realize it yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaUtwJetosA

>>133114690
It's a step in the right direction, there is no denying that. Allowing for the meme of accelerationism is just fucking stupid
>Hurr we need to cleanse and completely destroy our society so we can rebuild it from the ground # DEMOCRATS #IMFORHER #PELOSI
>implying there will be anything, anything at all left to salvage
It took hundreds of years for society to recover from the dark ages, imagine a nuclear dark age.

I'll concede, Trump is a civic nationalist boomer, I voted knowing that and I've actually been impressed by what he's done so far. I didn't vote for Hitler like most people in /nsg/ "whitepilled" themselves to believe. He is fixing our demographic problem in the best possible way; peacefully. Imagine having a Hitler in a country with only 67% whites, and of those 67%, only 20% (at most) believes in eugenics and whites>anyone else. There would be an absolute war from within in the government by both globalists agents, jew operatives and Blue pilled good intentioned people. Most whites will die too thanks to race war as well. We are not unified as a race group.

>>133114758
>reddit
XD epic!

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>stormfags
>ignore hitler liked islam a lot
>ignore globalists funded both communism and nazism, see Antony Sutton's books
>conveniently ignore George Soros helped the nazis when he was a kid
>worships a socialist regime that was all for gun control, compulsive state-schools for propaganda, abortion/euthanasia eugenics agenda, clearly a revolutionary, left wing movement
>We're all for rescuing yurop! We're fighting for tradition and recovery of values!
LOL

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>>133114288
>now

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>>133115349
>civ nat boomer
As long as you recognize these truths, then yes I understand & even agree with tactical public support for Trump. The only danger is that too many of "us" will privately come to support Trumpism at face value, rather than continuing along the path and pushing the Overton window. I'm glad to see that you are not one of THOSE people:
>"all Americans, as long as they're LEGAL™"
>"Israel is fucking BASED"


This is why I voted for Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHa9ldznx8

>>133115493
true desu. we need traditionalism not fascism, but we do need to get rid of the (((problem))) to ever take back the west in the first place/

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>>133116300
but the problem is literally being dealt with, muslims are driving ((((them)))) out of Europe, and without ((((those)))) europeans will able to fix everything, since (((they))) are the cause of all the problems in Europe.

Based George Soros!

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>>133115493
>globalists funded Nazism
At first, but it grew out of their control and turned against them. Implying that the Nazis were "just controlled OP" after knowing the outcome is intellectually dishonest or merely shilling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

>>133116562
no retard, (((they))) are the ones encouraging mass muslim immigration into europe. they're the ones in hollywood and the media who are promoting multiculti, racemixing and degenerate bullshit. they're the ones funding open borders groups for european countries. they're the ones who cry out that islam is a religion of peace

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>>133112815
Gadsden

>>133116144
Believe me, I don't vote for characters or parties, I vote for ideals and values. TRUMP (IN MY OPINION (O P I N I O N)) seems to have a pretty clean record of having traditionalist morals and beliefs, he's also a skeptic since on day 2 or 3 he was already saying there is something fishy about 9/11 and how the towers fell.

I doubted Trump "bigly" during the Syria debacle, I fell for all the garbage TRS memes and in the end nothing came of it. The moment Trump truly not just breaks one of his promises, but completely does a 180 on his reason to being elected then I'll gladly March in the streets against him.

I voted for Trump to cleanse Washington of the kike sickness its been suffering from 1913 and beyond, to destroy red tape and regulations on industry and to deport taco. So far he's been more than pleasing, I'm glad his in office. Could he repurpose the FEMA-CAMPS to house spics and gas them all? Yes. Would that create a civil war on day one? I'll let you think that one over. (not you, but lurkers/others ITT)

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>>133116728
yea right
that's why Antony Sutton exposed how some factories of globalists were not bombed at all despite being clear strategical targets in Germany, vehicle factories tied to Ford company and whatnot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG7lG0ggHck
Sutton also got flak for exposing the ties between globalists and the two socialist regimes, both the nationalist and the internationalists, or commies, the same suspects helping North Korea and more.

>>133116767
No retard, muslims are causing jews to flee Europe, if you haven't checked the news yet. So without jews europeans will be able to fix everything.

>europeans are so pathetic weak and cucked they can't resist being beat by a bunch of pedophiles in hollywood on the other side of the ocean

>>133116933
I'm still shocked at how quickly some of the alt-right crowd turned against Trump after shilling him so hard during the election. He's not some kind of infallible god, and I think he made it pretty clear during election times that he's not Hitler 2.0. Not even 8 months into his presidency and people are already crying about the Great Trump Betrayal and calling him a kike puppet traitor, as if they couldn't see this coming from the get-go. People need to give it time and stop getting caught in the endless purity spiral hysteria, otherwise they're either stubborn ideologues or massive hypocrites.

>>133117385
yeah the common jew is clearing off to israel just as planned. (((they))) are destroying europe and turning into a mongrel mixed race hellhole while protecting and strengthening israel. soros cut funding from femmen the second they tried expanding to israel

>>133112815

Feel free to leave, leftist cuckold

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>>133115493
>>ignore hitler liked islam a lot
The only people that unironically despise Muslims are reddit faggots that fell for the (((9/11))) FF, and Euroniggers that don't know who's really behind the (((Refugee Crisis)))
>>ignore globalists funded both communism and nazism, see Antony Sutton's books
Give me a proper source for this, that I can actually check right now. "go read some books" doesn't count
>>conveniently ignore George Soros helped the nazis when he was a kid
>one Jew gave minor support toward the nazis, this proves the nazis were actually Jews!
>>worships a socialist regime that was all for gun control
It is well known that gun laws in Germany were loosened under Hitler. Jews constantly push this complete lie to get libertarian faggots against Hitler
>>compulsive state-schools for propaganda
It's not "propaganda" if they're telling the truth
>>abortion/euthanasia eugenics agenda
Eugenics are only considered "wrong" by the general public, because the nazis made use of them. There is literally nothing wrong with artificially creating superhumans

Truth is, you are just a butthurt shitskin (See: flag). Go back to /ptg/ to hang around your other civic nationalist cucks, faggot.

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>>133112815
>> tfw hate stormfags but also the /ptg/ Kukistani cringecrowd
Then leave, you libertarian-monarchist fuck.

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>>133114401
>fuck off, your kind doesn't deserve to inherit the west
Nevertheless, they persisted

>>133117385
>>133116378

>>133117688
Then explain why his approval ratings are at an all time high?

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>>133112815
/ptg/ hate kekistan shite though retard

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>>133116933
>traditionalist morals and beliefs
>TRS memes
>cleanse Washington of kike sickness

Ok now you're starting to scare me again. Trump is doing SOME of the things he promised, but you are wildly exaggerating here. He's a patriotic businessman, not a traditionalist saint. There are plenty of positive steps he could take that aren't "gassing all the spics", hiring a team of G. Sachs kikes to his cabinet is not one of those.

He could be completely under duress and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for most of his inaction, but to imply that he's undercover Hitler is simply not cognizant with reality at this point.

Again, I UNDERSTAND tactical support....I voted for him too. What I don't like is when half of /pol/ seems to be buying into the notion that everything is fine now because Daddy got into office, and that any criticism of him on here is just CTR shilling. The election is over and this is more or less "private", there is no need for so much blind support.

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>>133113527
> People can't possibly have their own opinion, I know because I don't have one either.

>>133112815
>tfw fash but not natsoc

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>>133117798
Hey but aren't jews causing the issues? So you complain when they leave, and complain when they stay. I thought you wanted Europe free of jews, that's what globalists are doing whether it's their plan or not. I've seen globalist-funded politicians throwing a fit when Netanyahu said jews in France should flee, like the Hollande globalist puppet.

Your posts seem a little schizophrenic. Should jews leave Europe for europeans's own benefit since they cause problems or not? Without jews, shouldn't europeans have an easier time getting shit done? You gotta pick a side and quit being vague.

>>133117853
>I don't want to read books that have documentation about history
So it's not my fault you want to still be an ignoramus.

Public schools are often used for government propaganda since they control the content the kids are going to be exposed to. Communists still do it today. Hitler did the same as a good socialist of course.

Also eugenics were done before Hitler, you dumb sorry ass. Native indians in South America used to kill any children with issues at childbirth, and this was openly condemned by the christians.

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>>133118270
Same mate, all these NEET welfare socialist whites get gassed too.

>>133118757
wew lad I wouldn't want to needlessly gas whites

>>133118152
Because the general population is starting to warm up to him, whereas a lot of the people who jump-started the movement to get him into office (namely the TRS crowd) are turning against him.

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>>133117385
>globalists avoid bombing their former factories
>some globalists tried to profit off of Hitler
>...
>Therefore Nazi Germany was just controlled Op
Woah.....really convincing stuff you've got there, did he also only have 1 testicle and a scat fetish?

Use your head retard, he literally named the Jew and they sent the entire world against him in response. They propped up Hitler to stop Stalin, he accepted their power and then betrayed them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtasXQu70H4

>>133118188
>traditionalist Saint
Never said nor implied that. He does believe in family, God and country though, one if not the most important building blocks of a traditionalist society. It's sad that it doesn't take much to be trad now a days. I get how you would see that as me being deluded, you think of traditionalism and think of a father, his wife and 3+ children, all in a very stable and solid family unit that can withstand a catastrophe. That's a lot to ask of for today's society after a century of destruction of the family. All I ask for is God and Country for now. I still want that beautiful trad family and I know the center of society and the country is the family, but you can't raise a child (or at least incentivice the smart) in today's economy. Him and Jordan Peterson are doing a blessing to the world by bringing God back into the social discourse.

>hiring a team of G. Sachs
I'm neutral on this one, I know they're kikes, but he's gotta have a good reason to keep them in there, I know it's kind of silly to just say "Trump knows best" but honestly, the man hasn't been catastrophically wrong yet, until he is ill still believe the G Sachs faggots are a necessity, sometimes practicality is better than optics, I'm sure he could have gotten a bunch of full blooded Aryans with blue eyes into all his cabinets, but those are not the best men in the world in this area of business. Just like how he fired manafort when he did his job I believe he'll fire those people once their job is done.

>undercover Hitler
Kek
A lot of TRS plebs fell for the God Emperor meme, fucking idiots, I know there are lots of those here and in /nsg/, it's why they hate trump with a fire, they feel betrayed by him, but they actually betrayed themselves by putting an unattainable bar for Trump to reach, they put such a high bar that I don't even think Hitler reincarnated, but with a different name would be their candidate.

There is lots of shills here still.

>>133119502
Kek, hit word limit.
TL;DR
FUG DRUMPF AND FUG HWHUITE PEOPLE XD

>>133115493
Well ain't you a buzz buzz busy bee. Fucking shill faggot.

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>>133118757
Economics is a secondary issue, we're fine with National Socialism OR lassiez-faire fascism.

You're still in the lolberg mode of thinking about this....locked on the economic scale, but flexible on the authoritarian scale.
>ok we can throw the Commies out of helicopters, but ONLY if those helicopters are purchased tax-free in a free market transaction

Communists think this way too, except they are locked on the far left.
>ok we can have gulags and a leader with unlimited power, as long as I get free shit

Conversely, all Nat Socs/Fascists worth their weight are locked on the authoritarian scale, but flexible on the economic scale
>free markets or "free" healthcare, as long as it's for OUR people and we remove the degenerates and nonwhites.

>It's "NATIONAL socialism", not "national SOCIALISM"
>those Strasserist fuckers get long-knived when push comes to shove

>>133112815
Extremists are shit in any category. The world isn't black and white, there's yin and yang to everything in the world.

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>>133120571
>Economics is a secondary issue
Holy shit, this. Fucking niggers here on /pol/ don't seem to understand this at all.

All I truly want is a pure white authority, to put a forceful end to modern degeneracy.

>>133114690

Hitler's idea of movement purity is retarded. Entropy is a universal constant. All things deteriorate or reform. Even if he had won and built fortress Europe, the Nazis would've undergone changes through the years and generational shifts. "Final victory" doesn't exist.

>>133120762
Thanks, Jordan Peterson.

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>>133119502
>a divorcee
>current wife modeled for lewd photography
>"the Bible is my favorite book believe me"
>implying Jordan "you're all Nazis" Peterson is anything more than babby's first redpill
>excusing the questionable hires because "Trump knows best" rather than "Trump has no choice"
>implying (((TRS))) = /nsg/
>implying /nsg/ is wrong
>anyone who disagrees = shill
>Actually trying to justify this when not in front of normies who might otherwise vote for Dems

Ah....so you ARE a deluded idiot then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pgnng3bVlc

>>133120571
>>133121424
>Economics is a secondary issue

Thanks, now I know you guys have no potential at all. Saves me time.

>>133121939
Saves you time to do what?

>>133112815
I hate 95% of the posters here. Everyone is delusional doublethinking faggots.

>>133112815

Because Kekistani is a divide and conquer tactic. Controlled opposition. That's why it came out of nowhere like that.

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>>133121424
They will learn brother, one anon at a time.
It's an argument I used to see a lot more frequently, so I think we're making headway.

We care about our people, not our wallets. My parents grew up poor as hell, but they grew up in a White America, not some alien land. I'd give up everything I own to have had that childhood....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtuCzKy83U
>"time will not conquer us, no economic difficulties will wear us down"

>>133121864
>all these non-arguments
>everyone who disagrees with me is deluded
Oh noes! I'm a shill! Let's all vote Democrat, we must destroy society first. Trump as absolutely garbage and undeniably unredeemable. I have to agree with his beliefs and actions 100%! There is no middle ground.
>Tfw agree 80% with Trump
NOPE! HE'S A JEW PUPPET!

And for a moment I thought we could have a civil conversation. this thing that you're doing. This single issue "voting" (decision making more like) is childish behavior.

>>133122760
You mean how we invented it during the campaign?

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>>133121939
>literally "MUH SHEKELS!"
Disgusting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No1ZmYiKeRY

>>133123505
Literally muh sheckles happened in East Germany and in Russia with whites
>Inb4 Russia isn't white
So only when convenient? Got it.

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>>133123006
I literally told you I voted for Trump and support him when in public you fucking moron. I'm not going to blindly shill for him on our Mongolian basketweaving forum just because he's slightly better than the usual traitorous swine that are shoved up to the podiums every election year.

I don't think you are a shill, you've put in too much effort in this argument, I think you are a deluded idiot or some sort of hardline-Republican.

I tried having a civil conversation, I agreed to tactical support, not unwavering zealotry. You're the one trying to paint the so-far neutral president as the second coming of Christ and an exemplar of virtue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVCfQ6Lyoo0

>>133113605
This isn't cripplechan, faggot. You don't have your ideological mods to ban people for mean words over here.

>>133112815
NOT YOUR PERSONAL BLOG

sage GOES INTO ALL FIELDS

FUCKING NEWFAGS

>>133123006
Depends on whether the 20% are a dealbreaker

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>>133112815
what happended to the traditional right wing /pol/ ?

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>>133112815
>lolberg
you're complicit in the crimes of liberals and the multicult

when are we admitting libertarianism is a lefty ideology for idealists and pacifists who just hate government

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>>133123835
>Communism
>White
Is this a fucking joke?? Those nations were run by JEWS not whites, the make up of the general population is meaningless when they are under alien rule. This is redpill 101 information, communism IS Jewish. Even Churchill admitted to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1yON7-6VK8

>>133118188
>it must be exactly like natsoc Germany for me to support it!
This is why your "movement" never gains traction. Learn to compromise, it is the centerpiece to politics.

>>133113615
>If we just kill anyone we don't like you wouldn't have to deal with the other side

>>133119464
Typical socialist. You are no different than the communist.

>>133112815
https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/
Go be a traitor to your people where you belong

>>133119464
>he falls for any shitty propaganda of a socialist dictatorship
I bet you think the hospitals in Cuba are fucking amazing too, right retard

>>133125316
this

>>133125316
>A FUCKING LEAF
/pol/ has always been a home for libertarian right people faggot.

>>133122760
Something tells me Sargon of Akkad isn't trying to divide and conquer the alt-right.

>>133125050
>libertarianism = civic nationalism
Oh I see, you're just retarded.

>>133125065
Socialism is Jewish, you retard. Both communism and natsoc ideas come from the same source. It was a weapon used by them to seed potential rebellion in any and all countries. That is why Marxism is still around today.

Nazi is a counter movement designed to subvert communism, and as such holds heavy favorings to socialism. This doesn't take from the fact that socialism ideas are Jewish in origin, and the ideas were not meant to be used on Jewish people.
Only Europeans.

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>>133125084
Would you fuckers please stop making this strawman argument?!?

I literally voted for Trump, support is NOT the same thing is unwavering submission.

There is no compromise with the TRUTH. I "compromise" every time I defend him to normies IRL, and that is not what we come here for. I will not allow this place to become a den of moderates, that is what Leddit and PJW are for, that is NOT our job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwWM55dTSE

>>133117688
Awful but still better than Hillary and Bernie at least

>>133124638
>usual traitor swine
Its funny how the "totally not commie" nazis rely on the same language as commies.
Just a coincidence, right?

>>133125555
He's a left-winger

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>>133125160
The other side means to kill us all newfriend, I merely speak more honestly than they do.

>>133125486
>>133125486
It literally hasn't. You faggots have just been hanging out here in minority because "muh freeze peach"
/pol/ has always been a nazi board.

>>133125765
You don't support him, though. You think he is a traitorous swine.
You don't belong in America, and neither does your ideology. Keep that stupid shit in Europe.

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>>133125924
>Using "muh freeze peach", an SJW meme, unironically
You really are some lefty retard hiding under nationalist clothing.

>>133125647
implying lolbergs can control borders any better than they can build roads

radical fence sitting is being complicit in the multicult. there is more to our nation than our constitution.

>>133125924
>newfags gonna new
>>133114316
/pol/ was hardcore Ron Paul libertarian before stormfags came and thought they were in like company.

It's funny because they never learned the chan culture, and it shows exceptionally clear.

>>133125924
>/pol/ has always been a nazi board.
Holy shit leave you fucking newfag. Ever heard of this guy called Ron Paul?

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When will this guy fuck off and die already? Has he ever voted for ANYTHING Conservative in his whole life?

>>133126152
Having small government doesn't mean you need to have no government, idiot. You can control borders and build roads without interfering in citizens' lives, in case you weren't aware.

>>133126208
>>133126226
>muh Ron Paul
>implying nazis had anyone else they could support
We were with him because he was against the (((federal reserve))). Literally Hitlers have no chance in the modern world. Ron Paul was the closest thing we had, so of course we were with him.

>>133127062
The backpedaling is strong with this one.
You are not in like company, stormfag. 4chan, and especially /pol/, has a culture of LARPING.
Go to Europe if you want to propagate European ideologies. There is no room in America for socialist ideas. They have done enough damage already.

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>>133125193
>typical socialist, no different than the communist
Clearly you've read none of my posts. I am a racialist, i could care less about whichever arbitrary system of economics we use.

>>133125388
No I don't, Cuba is shit because it's full of subhumans and far leftist purists. You're confusing (((socialism))) with National Socialism, which is something only an uninformed or disingenuous person does.

>>133125677
No Marxism is Jewish and National Socialism is not (((socialism))).

>>133125892
The fact that they label the wrong people as "useful idiots" or label their own system as "socialism" does not make me a communist for applying those terms CORRECTLY

Communists have virtually no concept of "traitor" because they have no conception of loyalty.
I detest commie-scum more than you can possibly imagine you compromising moron.

Trumpism is not the cure for Marxists and traitors, physical removal is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ymEKiY1UR8

>>133127483
>socialism is not socialism
Keep drinking the koolaid, buddy. You have fallen for the very first Jewish subversion in recent times.
Ever wonder why Hitler couldn't succeed with his ambitions? Because his movement wasn't his, and the jews took the reigns back when Germany was again a power player.

Go read some fucking history, you retard. Stop letting others tell you what to believe.
Ideologies are for the weak minded. The Jewish know that, which is why they invented the ideologies in the first place.
>they aren't using the term right, I am!
This is literally what they think in regards to you. You are both the same, down to how you view each other.
>I detest commie scum
Stop being a retard, lad. You are literally the same as a communist, except for the racial bits. Literally the only difference.

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>>133125980
My ideology is racial solidarity, your ideology is degeneracy and profit above your brothers. You're just another cuck bearing the flag that my grandfathers bled for, content that we are being replaced as a people for the sake of cheap labor and free votes for the Democrats. Your ancestors are spinning in their graves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMypCinkRk

>>133127390
>muh socialism
Every single ""argument"" you stupid faggots have is "COMMIE!!1". Shows how much you've actually bothered to research what you're so against.
>There is no room in America for socialist ideas. They have done enough damage already
Look at what this (((freedom))) you so adore has done to our country. National Socialism has never even touched our government. This was all capitalism. It is you stupid, brainwashed goys, and your Jew masters that have damaged this country so much. You are the ones that need to finally leave.

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>>133126122
that's because national socialism IS LEFT WING
National Socialist WORKERS PARTY of Germany, a clear left wing denomination
Abortion and Euthanasia defended by communists are EUGENICS in disguise, just see the push to euthanize and abort (read: kill) babies born with any defects or any elderly who are in some terminal state or maybe even comatose today
GUN CONTROL was enforced by nazis and communists alike
both are for public schools, often obligatory for public school adoption, because they want to spew their retarded revolutionary propaganda to children who can't argue back and will be forced to listen how the great Fidel/Mao/Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot/Raul/Chavez is such an amazing leader and has done miracles
both are for centralization of power in the hands of the State

>>133128488
>I'm totally not a communist guys!
>all of our issues are become of capitalism!
Trading one set of shackles for the other. You are a mental slave to the Jewish subversion. Seek help.

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>>133112815
>hating NEETsocs and the latest incarnation of Project Chanology

Not an uncommon feel, OP.

>>133128488
>>>>>>>r/im14andthisisdeep

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>>133128029
>implying Hitler wasn't succeeding before we allied with the Marxists to destroy Germany and her people

Totally bro, Hitler was the REAL jew puppet only "le free market" is powerful enough to defeat them!! Thank god you were here to save me from myself. Fuck white ppl, BASED BLACKS are the true redpill.
>lolbergs literally believe this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-K3odk0-4

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>>133129084
that image is just this if it were trying to take itself seriously

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>>133129084
He's right, you're just a tool of the left. There was criticism against consumerism millenia before National Socialism happened, I take you've never heard a religious sermon against materialism and the tid bits about serving mammon and serving God being incompatible?

It's retarded to think you can only serve communism or capitalism, as in blind consumerism which is what the picture you posted implies. In fact the left loves the false conflict between commies and nazis. Stalin said they had to invade Finland because they had to get rid of the "finnish fascists", it's always the same old fucking garbage, if you're against the left you're a fascist/nazi of course, and the only opposition to communism is nazism.

just fuck off with this false dichotomy that is 70 years old already

>>133128840
>trading one set of shackles for the other
>Communism and National Socialism are the same thing
You have been completely brainwashed by this Jew meme.
>IT HAS THE WORD SOCIALISM IN IT, GET THE HELICOPTER XDD
I doubt you can even tell me what either Communism or National Socialism actually are, let alone their vast differences. Quit arguing about subjects which you know nothing about.

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>>133128557
>Nazis are left wing
They literally are not, only lolbergs shill this nonsense. The "leftists" of our movement were long knived once we could survive without them, read a history book.

>DEMOCRATIC PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF KOREA
North Korea is clearly a democracy then?

>implying eugenics is bad
That's literally the main reason most of us are right-leaning on economics, it's social darwinism.
The problem is that the incentives for survival in our system are anti-loyalty, someone who sells out his own for profit should not be a "success story".

>Gun control by the nazis
Not true, they took guns from Jews not Germans retard. Stop getting your information from Steven Crowder.

>public schools
better than having a bunch of retards on the streets, our public schools were pretty damn good before they were de-segregated. Niggers ruined our schools, the traitorous state merely helped them along.

I've been trying to explain this since the beginning of the thread, stop fetishizing the free market and the economics of the situation. Economics is nothing compared to the importance of race & culture, just look at Somalia. Most of us [National Socialists] are willing to go extremely right economically PROVIDED that the other problems are addressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ

>>133130288
>DEMOCRATIC PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF KOREA
Just like the nazis called themselves WORKERS PARTY. Have you ever seen a socialist who works? Nah the real workers despise those people who are into leeching taxpayers' money all day long.

Workers in revolutionary terms is a codeword for "the socialist party/socialist ruling elite", much like "democracy" means only the left has room to say anything.

I just pointed out both regimes are for eugenics, also he took guns from political oposition, EXACTLY like communists. Or you think Fidel Castro and his buddies also gave their guns away? lol, your brand of socialism just has a racial twist to it, but it's still class warfare, it's a class warfare of the races, the pures against the genetically defective, while some other folks say it's the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie. Same shit different labels, pitting groups against each other.

Public schools are amazing tools in the hands of socialists to put agendas in them, like today you have LGBT agenda in books, putting anyone to the right of Stalin in a bad light, portraying left wingers as "freedom fighters" and such. You're retarded if you can't comprehend how a government uses education as social engineering and all socialists do this.

It's better for someone to lack education than to be lobotomized by listening to repetitive propaganda, and the end result will be a left wing militant and not an educated person.

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>>133130288
>That's literally the main reason most of us are right-leaning on economics, it's social darwinism.
>stop fetishizing the free market and the economics of the situation. Economics is nothing compared to the importance of race & culture, just look at Somalia.
you're an incoherent babbling idiot who is whatever 51% of people in the room are as long as you can get them on board with gassing the jews

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>>133129414
No it's not, a 3rd option is not the same as a compromise. You and the commies both only care about the shekels, the reason I like you guys better is because your system is at least an indirect form of eugenics. International Capitalism may be soulless, but Communism is pure anti-humanity evil.

>>133129632
Capitalism without nationalism ALWAYS devolves into blind consumerism due to the inherent incentives of the system and the nature of globalization.
>best, cheapest product wins
>nationalism is not important
>....
>Sweatshops in 3rd world countries are fucking BASED!

Again you are completely missing the argument. I'm fine with Fascism/National Capitalism/whatever the fuck you want to call it.
Our people matter, not our economic system. You can call me a "tool" all you like, I'm not the one who's willing to sell out my own flesh and blood if the price is right. That's pure kike mentality, and it's half the reason we are in such a mess today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QANHAnNynWw

See the light lad, natsco is the true Redpill

>>133130288
Nazis were socialist you blind sheep. Hitler believed in mass public works programs, gun control, cradle to grave benefits, suppression of free speech and assembly, government seizure of private assets, government control of the economy. It was a less extreme version of soviet communism re state ownership of industry. Hitler wasn't unique in hating Jews, everyone hated the Jews back then and Stalin purged the fuck out of them. Also natsoc, the hint is in the name dummy

>>133132069
Ok and what is your solution the country which unironically pays kosher tax

>>133112815
SJWeebs such as yourself would be much happier over at reddit.

>>133131544
Again you've never heard of a priest talking against materialism and blind consumerism. Critiques of capitalism precede National Socialism by over 1000 years at least. Many religions critique the materialism that blind consumerism leads to, the worship of money, hedonism and more materialistic crap is not a new thing as well and have been addressed long ago. Just because you've never heard before doesn't mean Socialists of any kind were the first to criticize blind capitalism. Also you don't need to be a nazi to be nationalist. Quit with the black and white bullshit.

There's also a false conflict between Communism and Capitalism. The former is a political system, whereas the second is just economy, you can have capitalism in many political systems, in a democracy, constitutional republic, parliamentary monarchy, now Communism and other brands of socialism are all about seizing power and you can't really have other form of government, you'll have the socialist elite controlling both the politics and the economy.

So pitting Communism vs Capitalism in a picture or table is already stupid because one if a much broader thing than just merely the economy.

>>133132069
>mass public works programs
Yeah, I know roads like the Autobahn are triggering to the ancraps.
>gun control
Not really an issue when you have a massive military and Freikorps. Plus, this is in the context of violent commie movements across Europe.
>cradle to grave benefits
Only if deserved. Lazy fucks get nothing, and even what you do get isn't some sort of bullshit Ponzi scheme needing infinite growth like today.
>suppression of free speech and assembly
Only if it's anti-nation. Pure free speech is retarded, as your ideal will always lose out to the group that closes itself off and takes advantage of it.
>seizure of private assets
Like what we had in our own constitution? Also, taking back vital assets from foreign kikes is not wrong.
>control of economy
Not control, management. And in a pre-war or depressed economy, this is a must.

All this sidesteps the main issue at the moment. Can't us Nazis and you lolbertarians cooperate on saving the white race first?
After we've secured Europe, then we can get back to the white pastime of killing each other over differences in opinion.

>>133132777
>now Communism and other brands of socialism are all about seizing power and you can't really have other form of government, you'll have the socialist elite controlling both the politics and the economy.
Ever heard of Anarcho-communism? In practice, Communism tends to be authoritarian, but it is purely speaking also an economic system.

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>>133112815
>stormfags
It's a whole new level of pic related

>>133132974
Yeah, and it's a bunch of bullshit believed by total retards who honestly believe once a group of communists has total power they'll give it away because they're such good people!
KEK

>>133132225
Solution for what? The Jews? They can fuck off, let them keep churning out media and Hollywood drivel. Hollywood is going under and people are wising up to MSM propaganda. Close borders, repatriate shitskins, offer financial incentives for niggers to return to Africa and financial incentives for abortion and sterilization, less restrictions on guns, more restrictions on welfare, regulate for profit universities, tiny quota in scholarships, let student athletes get paid, eliminate international aid

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>>133131018
>socialist who works
No, but i've seen Nationalists sacrifice everything for God and Fatherland and I am a Nationalist.

>class warfare
Nope, class cohesion. Equality is not the goal, the survival of our race is.

>more ITZ ALL SO-SHULL-IZM muh gubmint
Why do you continuously argue against the economics?? I don't understand how to make this any more clear....IM OK WITH CAPITALISM AS LONG AS NATIONALISM COMES FIRST.

>>133131204
>That's literally the main reason most of us are right-leaning on economics, it's social darwinism.
How is this incorrect?
>Economics is nothing compared to the importance of race & culture, just look at Somalia.
How is this incorrect?

Communists have literal dysgenics
>"from each according to ability, to each according to need"
They steal from the best and give to the worst. Incentivizing laziness and helplessness.

Capitalists have one indirect form of eugenics
>"those who do not work, do not eat"
You incentivize profits without regard to morality, this at least breeds more productive people.

Nationalists have direct eugenics.
>"instead we say German people, help yourselves! Everyone must help whether they are rich or poor."
We incentivize strength of the whole, and take the practical approach when dealing with inheritable diseases and miscegenation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCSAEdxXMc&t=477s

>>133133143
I'm just saying what it is. Don't shoot the messenger.
But NatSocs tend to think similarly to libertarian capitalists, but be very distrustful of humanity. While capitalism is compatible with many political systems, it can also be used to subvert politics, whereas National Socialism says that the economy and politics of a nation must be mutually reinforcing. That is, an economy should never threaten a political system, nor should the political system try to seize control of an economy.

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>>133132777
>One priest talking against what our society promotes in 99% of the people.
Totally bro, i'm sure people will start listening to those guys any day now. The trajectory of the past century of capitalism becoming increasingly degenerate was surely just a phase....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYMbyneRer4

>>133132974
Also no Communism is NOT purely economical at all. In order to take the power away from the rich to make everyone equal and all other revolutionary empty promises, the communists need to be more powerful than ALL the rich people together, can you imagine how much power it is if you outrank all rich elite fags put together? In order to achieve the communists' goals you need a lot of political power. It's a political movement, pure and simple. On the other hand you can defend the free market and be a tiny entrepreneur selling biscuits and arguing how the regulation is killing your business and be completely against being in any political party at all. Or even less, just have an office desk job and argue that ruining the economy by meddling too much may cost many people their jobs, including your own.

Communists always want to preach about the wonders of the revolution and be the new Che Guevara, people thirsty for absolute power, even the tiny militants.

>>133133944
I didn't mean it for you but for people who believe anarchy can happen once communists are in place, it's just incredibly naive to think anyone or any group who achieves absolute power over a society, as dictators such as Fidel Castro did, will ever concede all they have now for the sake of some idealism, as if they didn't also promise to make things more just, and they need to be in charge of everything to do so. Communists want power, if they have to promise others paradise on earth that's what they'll say all day long.

>>133132829
And you think all that doesn't reek of socialism???

>no pure free speech
can't have the plebs criticize the politburo
>seizure of private assets is fine
Even though any govt taking in the US requires a non economic public purpose and just compensation, and the taking involves land, not private industry
>you don't need guns buddy, that's what the military is for!
Pretty much exactly the stupidity the founders were trying to prevent
>not control goy, 'management' of economy
Hitler legalized paying rent industries in govt IOUs and took control of industries they wanted. Huge increases in taxation and regulation. Read the Gunter Riemann letters, a businessman in Nazi germany. Confirms Nazis were obsessed with wealth distribution and were pretty much marxists
>earned benefits are great
Benefits are a means of control, you rely on the government to provide you with substance to live. Both Hitler and Musso created the welfare state. In 1939, 17 million Germans were on welfare

Look past the anti kike measures. National socialism was a cancer in all other ways

>>133133757
The racial ideology in nazism was the same old rehashed class warfare. Just take out the workers and put pure race instead, and take out the rich people and put the dirty races instead. They've translated class warfare into racial terms. They were not the only ones to adapt the class warfare narrative at all, as the Frankfurt School marxists have talked about translating class warfare into the oppressed minorities narratives that we see today with feminism, push for affirmative action/afrocommunism, LGBT rights, Islam-cocksucking and so on.

It's the same old discourse of poor us, _________ vs them _________, the oppressors.

i'm not arguing against economics, I'm saying nazis were not the first to criticize blind consumerism, and you don't need to be one to do so. thinking you need to be natsoc to have some sort of a conscience when it comes to this kind of shit is a fallacy.

>>133134405
>one priest
No, it's written in the Bible that only caring about the material world, and worshiping money is bad, having a conscience when it comes to consuming things and not living vicariously through possessions was criticized looooong ago. I don't see why national socialism is needed for that, or any socialism.

This is not to say some of the criticism against capitalism coming from those people can't have its merits, I just meant I don't see how one has to join their groups to counter it. I don't think the government is necessary to intervene to help the poor, society should do that. When the government gets involved with this redistribution business you end up with people paying for vote, corruption and people gaming the system and so on.

That does require a society formed with many good, moral individuals but that's pretty much a necessity in any democracy to prevent it from being torn apart. It's no wonder those who dream of being the next dictator are always busy trying to corrupt societies morally.

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>>133133944
Thank you, this is exactly the argument I'm trying to make.

>>133134459
>In order to take the power away from the rich to make everyone equal and all other revolutionary empty promises, the communists need to be more powerful than ALL the rich people together
Now THIS I agree with 100%, Communism is not economics it is a political system that attracts the greedy and the weak masses. It tells them that hierarchy is "oppression" and tells them they are all the same
>pic related

National Socialism/Fascism are for people who are willing to sacrifice for the betterment of their race and their nation, not for people who want gibbs from the rich. It explicitly promotes hierarchy and admits that we are NOT all equal.

>Hitler against Marxist economics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5fL1okyng

>>133135063
>can't have the plebs criticize the politburo
Criticizing government performance is fine. Saying that the nation should destroy itself isn't. We de facto have this kind of thing already. Republicans are only allowed to argue 'democraps r da real racists,' not actually say anything that would change the status quo.
>Even though any govt taking in the US requires a non economic public purpose and just compensation, and the taking involves land, not private industry
Sidestepping the main issue. Kike-controlled institutions were nationalized. Nothing wrong with that.
>Pretty much exactly the stupidity the founders were trying to prevent
My point is that most military-age men are armed anyway. And as I said, this is right after the commies tried to take Bavaria.
>Hitler legalized paying rent industries in govt IOUs and took control of industries they wanted. Huge increases in taxation and regulation.
Rent is bullshit, first of all. Second, this is hardly a surprising move in a country gearing up for war. And kek that they wanted to redistribute wealth. They wanted to make the rent-serfs in cities self-sufficient with land reform, but backed down from most of their plans.
>Benefits are a means of control
Partially. The benefits launched by the NSDAP were largely to transition the German nation into a self-sufficient stance from an impoverished industrial one. They were not handed out to degenerates, nor were they intended to be permanent.

>you think all of that doesn't reek of socialism
Not commie socialism, no. It doesn't reward the dregs. But even if you still call it socialism, it's just a label. I like the ideology for itself, and won't waste time in mental gymnastics trying to squirm out of labels. It's no different than leftist accusations of "racism," when the proper response of /pol/ is, "So?"

>>133135932
Except racial competition is the definition of evolution. Perfectly natural. I support my own people. Your Integralism is showing.

>>133114316
Didn't that faggot post that after /pol/ ruined every other board?
Isn't that pretty much his capitulation letter?

>>133114758
this. back to TD w your jew bots!

>>133117688
it's the revolt against his kike zionist grubbers that are blocking out the real americans who voted for wall MAGA.

>>133136836
So you think someone from a race other than yours can't help you out with something? We're far more advanced than irrational animals. This nog taunting germans to do something about the muslim refugee invasion is doing far more germans than all the german politicians put together. Add the entire EU as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GbN4y2Y0yU

Also yes using race as a class warfare is a wonderful tool to seize property, as a good socialist loves to do, get in a war trying to get some gibs by taking over the so called inferior races and so on. Just like the left now wants to get political benefits from demonizing whites, when they're white themselves.

>>133137456
>So you think someone from a race other than yours can't help you out with something?
I am open to cooperating, but not ungodly intermixing. The existence of my people is not negotiable.

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>>133135932
>racial ideology = class warfare
No "race" is reality (genetics), "class" is an abstraction (social standing).

"Us vs.them" is the reality of nature and survival. The communists, by contrast, try to turn "us against us".


>don't see why national socialism is necessary, or any socialism
I don't think socialism is necessary, I think NATIONALISM is.

>religion
I agree here, religion was indeed a bulwark against this. It is now that it's falling to the wayside though, and the argument for adopting nationalism is becoming more convincing by the day as the effects of secularism become apparent.

>society with many good, moral individuals
I think we are finally starting to speak the same language now.

>Is it Pagan - Goebbels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM

>>133137456
No race other than ours has EVER created a society on their own with comparable free markets and morality. You are trying to paint Nat Soc as a bunch of lazy whites wanting gibbs, when the truth of the matter is ALWAYS that whites are less prone on average to take/desire gibbs than nonwhites.

We are genetically predisposed to individualism, and those "based refugees" are exceptions to the rule for their race. Their children are far more likely than ours to be freeloaders or criminals, because evolution takes more than one generation.

You need to understand "Regression to the mean":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpmlqtnrec8

>>133112815
This is in no way political discussion

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>>133137962
the concept of class warfare can be adapted for different situations, the Frankfurt School was all about this, let's pit women as a class, against men as a class, and say they have always been oppressed by the patriarchy, with this fake narrative the god-state will intervene to do justice for the so called wronged and oppressed people. They create difficulties in order to sell solutions, divide and conquer. You can do this with religion, pitting the atheists against all religious people, heteros vs homosexuals, people from different regions of the same country, as in "the hicks from the south" kind of deal, and so much more. Class warfare as the proletariat vs bourgeoisie is something of the past, the other forms of conflict are much more widespread in their use.

>>133138677
if you're geneticall predisposed for individualism, then explain whites who convert to Islam, which is a religion/political ideology that is all about subservience to the Ummah, the muslim community, obeying your imam and mohammed/allah

>tfw using divide & conquer tactics to fuck with /pol/ and distract them from important info

>>133122047
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>>133122047

>New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally, Not Hacked

>>133141657
There is literally nothing that makes me less inclined to visit a thread than when some faggot advertises it in another thread with no relevancy to it.

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>>133112815
Yea but you also post anime so I dont think you have any room to talk

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>tfw hate materialistic liberals whos highest virtue is economic policies

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>>133115493
>>stormfags
JIDF meme
>>ignore hitler liked islam a lot
He didn't he used arabs as a tool against British and French imperialism in the ME.
>>conveniently ignore George Soros helped the nazis when he was a kid
I'm beginning to think you are retarded he was just another moralless jew who stole from his own tribe
>>worships a socialist regime that was all for gun control, compulsive state-schools for propaganda, abortion/euthanasia eugenics agenda, clearly a revolutionary, left wing movement
Please read more it's painful
>>We're all for rescuing yurop! We're fighting for tradition and recovery of values!
Yes

>>133112815
>I hate everyone and everyone hates me!

I thought this was standard practice for everyone on /pol/...