Julius Evola

I'm reading Revolt against the Modern World at the moment. It's interesting if not very scientific. You can really feel the Nietzschean influences on him.


I fear I'm not an 'Aristocrat of the Soul' though.

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>>133106558
>reading books instead of watching BASED e-celebs

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I suspect the works of Julius Evola are essential to library of any true edgelord.

>>133106681
Evola is pretty deep and hardcore for any e-celeb.

It might sound cancerous, but I was thinking of setting up a YouTube channel where I just review /pol/ style books with a paper bag on my face.


The /pol/ diaries: anything from Corneliu Codreanu and Evola to Thomas Sowell and Hayek would be reviewed.


Good idea or fucking cancer?

>>133106926
I'd sub

>>133106926
I was thinking something along these lines would be nice.
But rather than reviews on youtube a podcast with 2 or 3 people they'd read a chapter of a book and discuss it.
Read another chapter and so on. Maybe comment on it while reading.

Kinda like the Bongo Bongo Book Club but for good books.

>>133106926
Certain cancer.

The thing about natsoc is the strong leftist streak in it; not just in the superficial socialist economic policy (which wasn't really enforced fully when Hitler came to power anyway), but in that Hitler thought the racial bedrock of the nation came from the rural peasant classes. Himmler and Hitler admired the pure, honest German peasantry as the source of Aryan greatness.


Evola, like Hitler and Himmler, saw race as the basis of civilisation, but saw the ruling aristocratic class as the source of civilisation and racial purity.

He truly was the most right wing thinker of all time.

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>>133106926
cancer and it's not going to work if you aren't a girl (female)

>>133106926
Paper bag is fucking cancer , just include what you think are important parts of the book and underline them or some shit , rest of it sounds good

>>133107576
I am a male and I'll probably obscure my identity in some humourous way (was thinking paper bag or bucket).

I don't expect to get very many subs at all like those fucking females with edgy views.

I'm kinda a fan of Metokur and Styxhexenhammer; something like that but for /pol/ literature.

>>133106926
if you wear a durag and bandana i'll sub

>>133107576
or based Bowden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs&

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>>133106926
Why do we even need to see your face? Just put pic related as a background and read good.

>>133108343
Greatest speaker he would be horrified how much it has changed for the worse for 10 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BZylziBKI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9obW7zy1sd8

The books/writers I'm thinking of reviewing/critiquing are as follows:
Julius Evola - Revolt against.../Ride the Tiger
FA Hayek - The Road to Serfdom
Thomas Sowell - Basic Economics
Mussolini - The Doctrine of Fascism
Codreanu - For my legionnaires
Otto Weininger - Sex and Character
Dugin - 4th political theory
Ron Paul - Liberty Defined
Pat Buchanan - The death of the West


What else should I review?

>>133109062
>Dugin - 4th political theory
>Ron Paul - Liberty Defined
You shouldn't bother.
>Pat Buchanan - The death of the West
Replace it with Spengler.

>>133106558

Really great guy with great ideas.

His books (or translations) are really difficult, though. Every sentence is circuitous and needs to be read like four times over. And sometimes he's very esoteric. But then in the middle of a chapter there will suddenly be top-tier passages of profound ideas explaining everything in the modern world.

>>133108343
big admirer here, watched most of the videos of him that are uploaded in the /pol/ mega folders, and currently reading "Right".

>>133109062
Joseph De Maistre
Thomas Carlyle
Rene Guenon
Oswald Spengler

>>133106558
A genius

>>133109180

>Every sentence is circuitous

It's common of a lot of philosophers. It makes some very important but simple ideas unnecessarily obtuse and hard to grasp.

You could half the word count of any given Nietzsche and say exactly the same thing.

>>133109363
>Rene Guenon
He's the main influence of Evola.

>>133109363
I'd love to summarise and review Hans Herman Hoppe.
I was also thinking doing more crazy stuff internet /pol/ lit
The Unibomber Manifesto
One of Varg's crazy books
Something by an anti Vatican 2 catholic traditionalist
Maybe even Islamic fundamentalist stuff like Qutb.

Obviously I have to review Mein Kampf at some point.

>>133109603
Slight differences between the two but very similar. Evola being in favor of a warrior caste king while Guenon leaning more to the ruling of a priestly caste. They would argue over the future of the catholic church.

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Evola, more like Ebola

The only /pol/ approved authors are Rothbard, Hoppe and Mises

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>>133109902
Good suggestions. If your interested in HHH, then maybe some neo-reactionary stuff. Nick Land or Mencius Moldbug.

>>133110110

stormfag detected

>>133109929
>They would argue over the future of the catholic church.
Can you tell me more?

>>133110035
I'd probably have 4 categories
Edgy conservatives (a la Pat Buchanan)
Full Fash and beyond (a la Evola)
Lolbertarians. (Rothbard etc)
Crazy shit. (Ted Kaszynski)

>>133110173
Liberal detected

>>133110035
>your heroes are 66% jewish
>/pol/ approves of ghetto ethics

>>133110262
>Edgy conservatives (a la Pat Buchanan)
Replace with monarchists, traditionalists reactionaries and you can have the 20th century revolutionary right Fascism and NatSoc.

>>133110211
Earlier in Evola's life he had ideological differences with the catholic church's teaching, especially with the concept of equality of man. Nothing within the faith appealed to him. So he leaned more to roman paganism. In his first political book, "Pagan Imperialism" he calls for the removal and replacement of the christian faith. Guenon thought the catholic church could be revitalized from its modern form into something traditional. Although Evola will detail negative and positive aspects of Catholicism he ultimately thought the faith was too far gone within modernity to recover.

I'm currently listening to an audiobook reading of Elliot Rodger's manifesto. I should probably review that as well just for the keks.

>>133109062
Nietzsche?
I'm also in the middle of reading the gulag archipelago, maybe that as well. Really brings home both the horrors and complete ineptitude of communism

>>133110733
I read Nietzsche when I was a teenager. Genealogy of morality really fucked me up and made me realise that there is no objective reason to value compassion. Compassion for compassion's sake is a product of slave mentality according to Nietzsche.

>>133110262
Add Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano to the list of full fash and beyond.

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>>133110926
Pic related is absolutely needed if you will discuss the JQ.

>>133111002
Wasn't Serrano absolutely ducking insane though?
Esoteric Hitlerism sounds interesting but reading about him convinced me the guy had fucking lost it.

>>133111452
Of course. Obviously one has to be careful when discussing the Culture of Critique and The Bell Curve. Could land a person into trouble.

>>133107386
But Hitler was right, just as Pol Pot was right. The country folk ARE the nation. City dwellers are nationless. Look at literally every urban center on the planet.

>>133106926
Go for it id sub

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>>133111647
Only if you call for anudda shoah,

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>>133111732
L O N G K N I V E S

He was a literal edgy faggot.

>>133111554
To be honest I agree from what I have read. I co-host a podcast we will be going over him sometime later this year more in depth. Savitri Devi's work I wouldn't consider insane although there is nothing special to her work.

>>133110733
Breiviks too pls lol

But seriously - try to put March of the Titans by Kemp in there as well

>>133112145
Mb this is for>>133110707

>>133112056
He was. Which is probably his biggest achievement: rejecting (almost) everything that is modern and subversive.

>>133111554
esoteric hitlerism is brilliant if taken at a distance. when you read, "dedicated to the martyrs of nuremburg" you know it's gonna be a good book.

Okay, /pol/. This is my planned reading list, presented in intended order. I plan on reading Evola in order of publication so I just put him down as a single entry.

Twilight of the Idols
Genealogy of Morals
Beyond Good and Evil
Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Battle Cry of Freedom
Mein Kampf (Stalag)
Fascism by Oswald Mosley
For my Legionaries
This Time the World
Siege
Works of Evola
The Myth of the Twentieth Century
The Lightning and the Sun

Anything else I should add or rearrange?

>>133106558
I think he is a fine psychologist, he really nailed a few things and I will be reading more when I have a chance.

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>>133106681
>implying Evola isn't ReportOfTheWeek sent back in time to warn us

>>133112736
The concept of the political - Carl Schmit

>>133108052
Do it, but prepare yourself for inevitable dox attempts if you don't obscure your personal opinions as well as your bagged face. I think it would be worth.

>>133112736
you could read some junger. he's left of everyone you've got down though. gold in the furnace should be there somewhere. i'd recommend guenon around the time you start with evola. maybe 200 years together?

>>133112736
Oswald Spengler Decline of the West definetly neeeds to be in and maybe you could replace Mosley with Fascism, The Total Society.

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>>133109295
How is Right? Also have you read pulp fascism?

>>133109062

when you start it up, let us know


I don't know about others but I'd really enjoy something like what you're planning. also a podcast would work quite well with the structure here >>133107287

>>133113432
Started reading Junger's Storm of Steel.
It was fascinating to read someone who describes warfare in such a romantic way.

WW1 in Britain is portrayed as a tragic stupid war that our aristocrats and government forces the country into. It's true my country had fucking ridiculous casualties at the Somme in 1916 and that Douglas Haig was an idiot, but the education system uses that to make it seem all war is inherently evil and anyone who proposes war is stupid or bad.

>>133106926

Paperbag. Please.
Use something different or don't show at all.
Nice idea btw.

>>133114337
>Pulp Fascism
It's interesting how right wing a lot of 'Nerd Culture' (comics, superheroes etc) can be.


Alan Moore's Watchmen is kind of a critique of the right wing mentality in a lot of older superhero comics.

It's a shame Marvel has become so phenomenally cucked recently. The SJWs really invaded the industry.

>>133114497
check out his fiction. eumeswil, the glass bees, on the marble cliffs, etc.

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>>133114337
right has been a grind but i find it to be the most interesting book. nice perspective on western issues for a person like me who finds the native culture(s) very detached from the general west. i have pulp fascism as a pdf but i decided to order it online because i don't like reading from my pc display.

>>133114842
I listened to speech of his on the nature of the heroic which delves into this issue.

The idea of heroic figures in the modern world being quasi fascistic and yet their duelist alternative is always another fascistic character is quite interesting. Turning the nature of the heroic in on itself as it were.

>>133115579
Interesting. I also have felt for a while that the ethnic nationalism thing peddled by people like Ramzpaul is a bygone of the early 20th century. I always thought we needed to grow into something greater.

Am i wrong to think the book looks into this idea somewhat?

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>>133109295
The poz might have gotten worse but the backlash is getting momentum basically since the Trumpening. It would be interesting to have his take on what's happening now. The man is definitely a great speaker, pretty much everything off the cuff. I like his elitist way of thinking; no wonder he liked Evola.

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Roger Scruton is probably the best (proper) conservative writer on culture alive today.


His book 'Sexual Desire' offers a pretty good critique of homosexuality and sexual liberalism in general.


Anyone here who hasn't seen his documentary 'Why beauty matters' needs to immediately.

>>133106558
Anyone have links to a pdf for his handbook for right wing youth?

>>133109062
Any reason why Charles Maurras hasn't been included

>>133106676
Aristocrats of the soul are made not born, OP. Obtaining metaphysical prowess is a choice.

>>133115924
>I also have felt...
i don't feel "western". i feel at ease with my finnishness, but "western" or "european" feels very artificial and foreign to me.
i'm not finished with right yet. as i said, it's bit of a grind and it can be tiring to read criticism on liberal cuckservatives.

>>133106558
I admit I have not read all his works, but from what I browsed:
>decadent
>pretentious
>obnoxius
>pseudo-intellectual
>intellectually poor
>thinks he's intellectually supreme
>boring
>clearly in love with himself
>shit

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>>133116225
haven't found it in the MEGA dumps, but a "handbook" as a pdf sounds a bit redundant to me

>>133116516
> "western" or "european" feels very artificial and foreign to me.

Could be finngolian genes ;)
Could also be that you haven't ventured out of Europe yet. Visit some place in the Middle East or East Asia and I guarantee you the culture shock will be greater than that of, say, Sweden or Lithuania.

>>133109062
Include some joke books to be able to claim it us satire if shit happens.

Also, meditations.

>>133116883
Have been to Tampere and Helsinki before.

You finns are very quiet and don't like to make a fuss. I liked reading Kalevala.

>>133106558
Currently reading 'Ride the Tiger'. Genius. Well written, spot on. I don't always like his references but considering he wrote that over 50 years ago, it's 7.5/10.

>>133116756
Literally the opposite of everything you listed. He hated all the intellectual circles and wrote a lot against them.

>>133106558
>>133106558
I love his work, but I think I'm going to wait til I learn Italian to read his books.

>>133109062
Democracy The God That Failed, Hans-Hermann Hoppe

>>133117096
Definitely reviewing Elliot Rodger's manifesto.
Might also do some fiction with very right wing subtext or explicit right wing political ideas.
I've read the first in the Hunters of Gor series (the author is crazy as fuck).


Any other right wing fiction I could look at?

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>>133106558
He's right on a lot of things, though I disagree with him on the anti-Christianity and "ride the tiger" pessimism in his last years.

Ironically, had he lived just 5 years longer, he would've seen radical traditionalism return to the world stage with the Iranian Revolution.

>>133118266
How do you know what's written on the flag? Are you diaspora?

>>133106558
> was greatly influenced by a Romanian philosopher

>>133119147
Source?

>>133113550
Fascism, the Total Society is a must read for anyone that wants to learn about Fascism and its central themes.

>>133112736
The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times

>>133110707

Don't. He's pop culture, that's how you attract unwanted attention. Just stick with the dusty, boring old white dudes no Antifa cares about

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>>133110035
>i only hold values related to economics

>>133118162
The Book of the New Sun series

>>133120441
Exactly but a strange flag.

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>>133106558
The wokest nigga of all time
Even the natsocs and italian fascists werent hardcore enough for this guy

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>>133106558
I think I'm too dumb to understand Evola. I try to read some pages then it just gets all fuzzy. I used to read a lot of books when I was younger but I think all the vaccines I got in the army made me an retard.

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>>133112736
"Crisis of the Modern World" and "The Reign of Quantity" by Rene Guenon.

"Archeofuturism" by Guillaume Faye.

If you want to read fiction i recommend "Submission" by Michel Houellebecq

>>133117647
I had skimmed a few of his books after downloading his archive and was disappointed.
I will give it another chance.

>>133120876
Start with the Grail.

>>133120917
The grail is his worst book by far

>>133120876
Read ride the tiger. Best entry book into Evolas thinking. Revolt Against the Modern World is also great.

admired his book 'Revolt against the modern world' and it inspired me towards traditionalism

I dont 100% subscribe to all of his beliefs but he had it right generally

>>133112736
Buy a quality microphone, take your time, and do it properly. Learn to speak well. Do not put out a shitty product.

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>>133120860
His prose can be pretty heavy at times.

Evola wasnt exactly concerned with writing for the common man. He was a strict elitist.

His book "Men among the ruins" is a bit more hands-on than his other books in my opinion. Maybe you can start there.

Also, check out this talk about Evolas ideas. Its a decent introduction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPbxY3cWLU

>>133106558
I've read up on his works, but never actually read anything.
I think I take inspiration from the gist of what he says.

>>133121179
Cultured Thug and Marshal Ironsides already exist

>>133120917
>>133121074
Thank you for the recommendations. I will go through both Grail & Ride the Tiger.
I just found out in this thread he was influenced by Guenon, & Guenon is IMO both extremely underrated & pure genius.

>>133121369
I would welcome a newcomer so long as he brings something new to the fold.

>>133121243
>pic
The lyrics are really important this is my favourite french song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9XNzcqA42s

>>133121506
Petain did nothing wrong!

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>>133121436
Dont waste your time with Grail man
Evola went full retard in that book, he wrote it about the story of King Arthur like it literally happened and based his philosophy off that
Its just nonsense, by far his weakest work

>>133121243
Thanks I'll check this out.

>>133121595
He literally didn't the hero of Verdun and the only one who remained in France to negotiate the surrender to Germany while the "elite" fled like rats to England.

>>133118266
Christianity is weak, destroys devotion to your people and your nation and the desire to self improve
Its the worship of death

>>133108052
>I'll probably obscure my identity in some humourous way (was thinking paper bag or bucket).
Don't. Don't show your body or home or anything at like that. You can always do it with Prezi and take it over jewtube and just voice it over, almost like a lecture. Work on good diction and voice recording and you're set.

>>133121436
> Guenon is IMO both extremely underrated & pure genius.
Guénon is the most important intellectual France has ever produced as far as l'm concerned, but he suffers from the fact he was hostile to modern academia and science, which limited the spread of his books.

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Is wearing a monocle the true redpill?

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>>133118266

>>133122275
Walking around in bombing raids is.

>>133121951
"Christianity" is a very broad term.

>>133122486
Spirituality is important but Christianity shares too much in common with Judaec values
Hitler said it was the proto-bolshevism and I agree

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>>133121951
>Christianity is weak
Then how did Christian Europe dominate the rest of the world in the last couple centuries?
>destroys devotion to your people and your nation
Codreanu, Dollfuss, and Salazar would disagree.
>the desire to self improve
0/10 bait
>Its the worship of death
And that's a bad thing? How is dying for your faith and folk not greater than a life of hedonistic self-indulgence?

>>133122283
Nietzsche was an anti-nationalist nihilist who got butthurt over Wagner's operas.

>>133122368
I read that he along with other conservatives in Germany thought that WW1 gave birth to a "new race of men"
>ywn be so alpha that the sense of imminent death is comforting

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>>133109062
>What else should I review?
Douglas Murray's- The Strange Death of Europe is a must.

Not Hard Right but deals with very controversial issues and covers the origins and future of Europe's ethnic and cultural replacement.

Builds a bridge between kosher conservatives, "classical liberals" and the far right in terms of talking points.

Douglas Murray is a great attack dog against Islam and mass migration, I really wish he was discussed more here.

>>133123044
Typical braindead response
>How did Christians dominate Europe
They didnt. It took them over a thousand years to convert all of Europe and already people had started casting it aside in favour of nihilism and atheism. Christianity divided Europe more than it had ever been in history.
>Codreanu Dollfuss bla bla bla
And how long did those systems work?
Christianity cannot work with nationalism unless you change the religion. See: Positive Christianity
>bait
Not an argument
>how is worshipping death not a bad thing
Because you're retarded thats why. Die with a purpose not for some dead jew.
You should work to make a better life here on this world for your people and for yourself. If you spend that life preparing for some afterlife by definition you're already focusing less on this world.

And that is an incredibly shallow interpretation of Nietzsche
Typical Christian conservative, you've got a long way to go.

>>133123510
>Douglas Murray is a great attack dog against Islam and mass migration, I really wish he was discussed more here.

Well Islam is just a symptom, not the disease. Its not like things would be perfect if we just got rid of the muslims. Our problems run much deeper.

Take for instance the "muh western values"-chauvinists who insist we must oppose islam to defend "our" homosexuals, trannies and pride parades.

>>133123044
>Then how did Christian Europe dominate the rest of the world in the last couple centuries?
That wasn't because of Christianity, otherwise Christians in Ethiopia should be godlike as well then. Any of the good cultural parts of Christianity are just bits it picked up from indigenous pagan tribes.
How did the Roman empire or the Persian empire or the Greeks do anything if they weren't christian then?
>Codreanu, Dollfuss, and Salazar would disagree.
Some christian ethics ≠ Christianity
>0/10 bait
Just be a shitty poor person you'll go to heaven, being big and tough is bad. "The meek shall inherit the earth"
>And that's a bad thing? How is dying for your faith and folk not greater than a life of hedonistic self-indulgence?
It's seeing the earth as a simply stepping stone to eternal bliss, just let the Muslims kill you, you go to heaven after all

The meer fact you have that image saved proves you barely looked into other religions or spirituality beyond your own.

Look into karma as well, Christianity has the no sin part like the Eastern religions but nothing on the truth part. An entire whole section of spirituality missing from the Judaic religions. Dumb cunt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_texts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

>>133123044
"What a certificate of mental poverty it was for Christianity that it destroyed the libraries of the ancient world! GrecoRoman thought was made to seem like the teachings of the Devil. "If thou desirest to live, thou shalt not expose thyself unto temptation."

Bolshevism sets about its task in the same way as Christianity, so that the faithful may not know what is happening in the rest of the world. The object is to persuade them that the system they enjoy is unique in the world in point of technical and social organisation."

- Adolf Hitler

>>133123510
THIS, THIS SO MUCH

>>133123510
>islam

Yes goy Islam is the problem
Drop more bombs on the middle east!

>>133123044
>Nietzsche
>Nihilist

*bangs head against desk repeatedly*
He was not a nihilist. The whole fucking point of his philosophy is to overcome the nihilism created after God has died.

Nietzsche was opposed to nihilism; he wanted values that affirm life, strength, and power.

>>133106926
Do it.

>>133106926
Wear a Pepe mask xD

>>133109062
Ted K's Manifesto
Growth of the Soil, Knut Hamsun

>>133122283
that is wrong though
if you know anything about the catholic world view you would find it rejecting all things profane and of this world, and yearning for something higher

>>133124641
Islam is a big problem in Europe they have entire ghettos where the native language isn't spoken. Visit London or Marseille.

>>133124725
Fucking this
I get taught Nietzsche in University and my mulatto professor gives me this liberal braindead nihilist interpretation
How fucking thick do you have to be to not get his points, its not even heavy reading
Nietzsche is a favourite of Fascists for a reason, he would have been one himself imo

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>>133124725
Everytime, there's always a fucking dumb idiot who thinks this. It's proof he hasn't read a single word of any of his works then defends his Christianity like a good slave

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Pol reading threads are the best

>>133106926
Survive the Jive talks about Evola, but he as a small follower base.

>>133106558
I heard he got into Satanism and was friends with Aleister Crowley.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

>>133125039
Its just a symptom of a bigger problem
You dont remove that root of the problem you're always gonna have the symptom
If we evict or exterminate the muslim invaders they'll just find another way

>>133125231
Mental and physical are equally important
Strive to be the superman anon

>>133125259
Jive is great
Very aesthetic beard and voice

>>133109062
Generation Identity by Markus Willinger

>>133125361
Good advice

>>133125231
>tfw /pol/ reads better books then faggot /lit/

>>133125359
He would investigate Satanism but never convert.

http://www.gornahoor.net/library/EvolaOnCrowley.pdf

>>133124316
>The meer fact you have that image saved proves you barely looked into other religions or spirituality beyond your own.
Larpshit isn't genuine spirituality. It's counter-initiation. Evola and Guenon warned of this shit.religious traditions

>>133124725
Afraid not bucko,

Nietzsche was an unintelligible libertine whom wrote solely for the purpose of his self-affirmation in degenerate behavior... All of his work is a philosophical red-herring, and that is why he is apart of the nihilist circle. A contrarian within the belle epoque, he was truly mad.

>>133125405
He is also /fit/.
I can't understand why he is friends with Marcus Follin aka The Golden Cuck

>>133125359
There is some debate over what evola and guénon thought of crowley, which you can google discussions about. Evola did write on crowley as you can read for example here https://www.counter-currents.com/2010/08/aleister-crowley/

>>133106558
Julius Evola would played nicely as Anders Breivik's World of Warcraft character, minus the Jew hate.

>>133126223
What's wrong with Marcus? I like him

>>133106926
or move the camera to only cover till your neck
good idea tho

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>>133126013
>I'll just call it larp without looking into it.
Christianity is also a larp how many people think the Eucharist is actually physically the body of Jesus. Church attendance has been dropping like mad. Christianity obviously isn't attending to peoples spiritual needs.

>>133126174
t.uneducated neet

>>133126523
Why is there even a need for us to see him? Just a voice is perfectly fine.

>>133126223
Me neither guidobro, marcus is retarded to say the least.

>>133126013
christianity ain't in a much better situation, even if they have a long unbroken chain of priesthood hardly any practicing christian is even aware of the depth of christianity and most view their faith through modern lenses

>>133106558
litterally the best philospher out there. Ride the Tiger is litterary gold

>>133106558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu2j9yE8pVI

He is one of most inspirational characters to any men of High Standard. Shame he gets discussed by retards on /pol/.

>>133110035
>when you shill for your lolbertarian ideology by posting memes fashioned after an incredibly authoritarian movement

>>133126451
He's an hypocrite. His ideas are mostly good (except on homosexuality imo), but he pretends to be a guiding beacon who gives you all his best advices e.g. don't act introvert, be a fucking force of nature ecc ecc, and then he behave like the exact opposite, he fights with his allies over small differencies in thought and last but not last, he is moderately ugly and pretend to redpill and guide women with his "glorious" look.

>>133107386
>Evola, like Hitler and Himmler, saw race as the basis of civilisation, but saw the ruling aristocratic class as the source of civilisation and racial purity.
No, there is actually a big difference between the position of the two which is the reason why NatSoc can never be united with Tradition. Evola saw from a Traditional perspective that it is not the physical race (matter) of a group of people that makes a nation, but the spirit. Evola held that the spirit was to be primary over (the soul) and the body (matter). NS holds that matter is determinant over everything else.

And here is what Evola had to say about biological racism:
>In July of 1931 Evola writes in Vita Nova: “the error of some extreme ‘racists’ who believe that the return of race to its biological purity ipso facto equals its rebirth as a people consists of exactly this: they treat the human being as if he were a purebread car, horse, or dog. … It would be too convienient if the simple fact that one belongs to a pure race were to bestow, without further ado, a ‘quality’ in the higher sense.”
>“Is it the spirit that gives shape to the race (especially to the nation), or is it the race that gives shape to the spirit? Or even more to the point: Does determnation come from above or from below.”
He vehemently opposed zoological racism!

So, the SS prohibited him from speaking in NS Germany.. there was no mutual love between them. National Socialism is on the revolutionary and counter-tradition side and not on the Traditional side (which is Throne and Altar). It cannot possible claim Evola as their philosopher.

>>133127098
When your authoritarian dictator breaks the naps of everyone in the nation by imposing curfews and illegally seizing power from a democratically voted in party using funds and backing from the CIA while also killing people who disagree with the state and your army uses German marching music and goosesteps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmZGuPfGNrY

But it's okay because he totally would of supported anarchists

>>133106926
do it, faggot. I wish there was someone out there to get people interested in literature, beyond just having image macros of "/pol/ recommended reading" with nothing else there.

As for Evola, I really like his work, but it's also important to remember the time he came from. There's a lot we now know about genetics, evolutionary psychology, and stuff like that. You have to keep that in mind when reading his stuff.

>>133126648
molymeme gives you the option of merely listening or rather watching his face
it's a good "marketing" move

>>133109062
>Dugin - 4th political theory

Isn't that the one where he advocates to BLANDA UPP with muslim shitskins?

>>133126174
>unintelligible
Top Kek.
>Libertine
Nietzsche explicitly states he is opposed to sexual degeneracy in 'on chastity' in Thus Spake Zarathustra.

Read the Geneaology of Morals for a clear picture of Nietzsche's philosophy.

Seriously, Thus Spake Zarathustra is about the joy that comes with the belief in life affirming values of strength and beauty.

>>133106926
What would you call it?
>The Faggot Book club

>>133109062
Hobbes - Leviathan

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>>133127966
Exactly. It's a reaction against american liberalism but it's core is entirely rotten.

>>133126648
From a purely rational standpoint, you're right;. But it doesn't quite work that way because of behavioral psychology and all that. We naturally want to see things happening rather than just a still image on the screen. It's why all the major youtube celebs will record themselves talking at a camera, even though this logically isn't necessary and doesn't add anything. There's also things like body language. There's a reason Molyjew is popular, for example.

>>133106926
Do it, although I'd make the vids without a paper bag. Just record the audio and make the video with images that illustrate the ideas you're talking about.

>>133112736
Might Is Right-Ragnar Redbeard

>>133106926
Don't worry about the face, worry about the content first.

There are a few YT channels in the Varg-o-sphere that deal with Evola and they all miss the point of Evola completely. Here's how to avoid that:
>read the first chapter of 'Revolt..' (his most important book).
>understand the doctrine of the two natures
Congratulations, you're the very first youtuber to grasp a Traditional doctrine!

Because your audience expects you to just blame everything on Christians and Jews instead of "The degeneration of the Castes", you will have less than a 100 views, tops, and most will dislike you. But that doesn't matter because it's not meant to be understood by the many, however you can help out a few to the next level. The rest is just living proof of this 'degeneration'.

>>133129561
is that you, generaal?

>>133127314
>“Is it the spirit that gives shape to the race (especially to the nation), or is it the race that gives shape to the spirit? Or even more to the point: Does determnation come from above or from below.”
>He vehemently opposed zoological racism!
This was also the 1930s and people didn't understand genetics like we do now. Because we ARE like animal breeds that must be kept purebred instead of turning into mutts.

>>133123510
>Douglas Murray is a great attack dog against Islam and mass migration, I really wish he was discussed more here.

gee, I wonder why the self-proclaimed "only neocon in Great Britain" is not discussed more on /pol/

half of this mess is the fault of his ill kind

>>133129937
>This was also the 1930s and people didn't understand genetics like we do now.
The whole point of the Traditionalists is to criticize the degenerate modernity that produced the purely quantitative science that reduces everything to matter. l don't know why you'd even warn people to keep their modern mindset in mind before reading Evola or Guenon when they're interesting specifically because they develop a vision that is radically opposed to modernity in every way.

>>133129788
I don't understand the reference, so I think not ..

>>133129937
It's a principle of Spirit over Matter. Regardless of how much we understand of the material side of race, DNA, epigenetics, etc. it will never be superior to the spirit. Everything is willed and ordered in reference to the 'above', 'higher existence', to the spiritual in a Traditionally ordered society.

Man has a material component, an animal component, but that is not his essence. Taking the animal part over the essential spiritual part is anti-traditional.

Don't worry about saying goodbye to Hitler, it will get better from here.

>>133130507
Yes! But it may take years or more to lose that modern mindset, it cannot be resolved with a cursory reading of Evola. You mention Guenon and he must be read alongside, at least.

>>133131014
>not knowing the general

Out

>>133106926
Make a podcast if you don't want to show your face. Who wants to stare at a guy with a paperback on his face. Or do something well-edited like black pigeon. Also, there is already good stuff on sites like counter currents when it comes to book reviews.

>>133109062
I would definitely subscribe to you. I would help with the videos if you wanted to.

>>133131014
Everything you are saying is completely correct but there is one thing you re missing. Read the chapter "Decline of the Superior Races" of Revolt and read "Negrification of America" from his other book The Bow and The Club.

>>133106926
It could be cancer or it could be worthwhile, but that depends on your execution.

If you're the kind of guy with a sense of humor and way of speaking like Mister Metokur you can't possibly go wrong. If you can't pull off charismatic dialogue, better to just stick to a serious, straight-to-business delivery. However, people might not find that entertaining and it could come off as dry and boring.

As long as you're not slathering it in le edgy /pol/ maymays and have a moderately mature sounding voice, it's not going to be "cancer"

I'd give it a try but expect a variety of results.

>>133131014
I would say the main point is that the character of the individual is a combination of those planes, and the racial one probably has some role not only in the sort of manifestations of traditions(i.e the sort of warrior inclined traditions of the west vs the more priestly/intellectual[in the sense of Guenon] outlook of the east) but also the possibility itself of traditional realization.
I think it's rather clear that the Eurasian races are sort of special in this compared to the negroid races, whose natural tendencies seems more "earthly"/material so to speak.

Maybe the grand racemixing with the negroid races will bring the sort of ultimate obscurity of the last big cycle, figuratively and, well, literally.

>>133106926
already exists https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldWarPropaganda/undefined

>>133131762
I will have to read those again myself, since I have forgotten and got the book from the shelf anyways

>>133132646
Yes, it is a combination and there is a link between the two. I think the link is that the spirit 'wills' its sex, race and caste in which it is born. It chooses the best place for it to manifest itself. Hence a male Aryan will most likely incarnate in an male Aryan body.

>Maybe the grand racemixing with the negroid races will bring the sort of ultimate obscurity of the last big cycle, figuratively and, well, literally.
Africa has the most mixed races. These are called primitives as if they can evolve to some higher state. But they are rather degenerates, the remnants of a once higher civilizations. Now they are only superstitious, tribal warlike and materialistic, a caricature of a Tradition. Some of the West choose their fate by mixing it up with 'Africa', they will go and join the graveyard of civilizations. Maybe that is what is best for their spiritual condition and why they are attracted to it.

>>133118162
It's not really right-wing per se but read panzram. It's interesting as fuck and gives you a look inside the mind of a serial killer

>>133110262
>teddy K
>crazy
I wish.

>>133133934
I doubt that negroes are the remains of higher civilizations. Evola himself said that the negro races were childish races incapable of order.
Though, I agree with you. The race mixing we see today is completely spiritual in source, most europeans these days have negro mannerisms and a negro state of mind. Thats why I recommended you read that chapter from the Bow and the Club. In a spiritual light there is no race mixing. Its just negroes breeding with negroes with straight hair.

>>133127314
>Is it the spirit that gives shape to the race
To this man was oppsing basic "water is wet"-tier fact about behavior and intelligence deriving from biology and considered it to be other way around? Opinion discarded.

>>133106926

I would sub please do this. We need a new Jonathan Bowden.

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>>133134543
>I doubt that negroes are the remains of higher civilizations. Evola himself said that the negro races were childish races incapable of order.
It certainly seems like that, they aren't capable of keeping things civilized without outside help, and in a sense are children in need of parents. But still, since civilizations start at their peek with a bright flash of divine revelation and then degenerate into oblivion as they forget, it only seems possible that that's where they are from. Where else could they come from?

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>>133109062
Don't forget "My Kampfy Couch."

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>>133106558
bretty top tier

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>>133135976
>Where else could they come from?
Well from Africa

>>133136305
This should be read by every ancap.

>>133135976
This is where it gets interesting esoterically speaking. Evola, Guenon and Schuon recognized that the Indo-European, East Asian, Native American and to some extent the Semitic Races had a true spiritual golden start. However when it comes to the Australoids, Negroids and Dravidians they pointed to a lost continent in the Indian Sea called Lemuria. They conceived that this continent was where the cult of the godess Kali started. This would explain the fact that the negro never knew a truly solar religion, but always knew frenetic demon worship. Its no wonder that these races have been called the Sons of the Earth, because in comparison with the Higher Races they always praised totemism as Evola puts it. They always followed Black magic practices in their cults.

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Read the full version here
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>>133135829
Evola did not reject biological heredity, but he rejected biological determinism, the idea that your biological pedigree determined your fate and that it trumped the spirit. So you receive your "wealth" from your ancestors, but the "spirit" determines if you squander it or not.

So Evola could claim that one could be "Aryan", but have a "Jewish" soul, just as one could be "Jewish", but have an "Aryan" soul. In Evola's view Otto Weininger and Carlo Michelstaedter were Jews of "sufficiently heroic, ascetic, and sacral" character to fit the latter category.

The reverse is also true and easily verifiable: those with Aryan pedigree can have a degenerate soul. You really miss the essence of Evola if you try to mold him into a horse breeder dressed up in spiritual language.

>>133137367
>You really miss the essence of Evola if you try to mold him into a horse breeder dressed up in spiritual language.
I'm not but still I prefer the role of horse breeder and look at it materially maybe if there weren't an endless stream of boats unloading africans in Italy and Spain I could consider his position.

>>133137853
You dummie, you think Evola would condone that? To see his homeland invaded by subhumans.
To walk the streets of Rome (the city that he would give his life for) just to see niggers and muzzies raping and pillaging.

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>>133106558
He's basically yer boy

>>133106926
Go for it but just don't do the paper bag. Put on a mask of some sort.

No one will care who you are until you put on the mask.

>>133106681

Book authors are basically just primitive ecelebs

>>133138055
Of course not and this is my main argument against
>fascism is not racist
If Mussolini could see his homeland now he would become Heydrich on steroids not to mention the whole idea of group identity is crucial.

>>133106926

Why are you so afraid to show your face? Be a man, faggot.

>>133138276
But the spiritual needs to be the determining thing in all of this. You cant make alliances with people who have been negrified, americanized and jewified.

>>133109062

That sounds oppressively boring.

You really should be doing videos on the individual ideas put forth in these books. Entire book reviews tend to be pedantic.

>>133136581
The Indo-Europeans and others you mention descended from the Hyperboreans, the once with the golden start who lived in the polar region. Once cast out by catastrophe they encountered the southern races who claimed Lemuria as their origin, the north vs. south conflict, solar vs. lunar. I don't remember Evola explaining Lemuria. Though not the same as Atlantis, the rumors of Black Magic practise and catastrophy are the same. I've not read sufficiently about it so I can only speculate that it's part of an earlier cycle perhaps, since it seems to follow one.

>>133137853
>if there weren't an endless stream of boats unloading africans in Italy and Spain I could consider his position.
They will overtake and enslave us long before we are bred out, so the horse farm won't help us and you will not find much traction for that idea. I don't think we'll get out of this mess otherwise than a crash and what is needed afterwards is a clear vision of what is Traditional and prepare the conditions for a 'rebirth'.

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>>133138191
>Book authors are basically just primitive ecelebs
I don't see how people like Spengler touch God forbid the likes of Sargoy of Mossad.

>>133106676

I'm reading it too. great book

scientific is not the point, anon

>>133109062
Sapiens by Yuval Harari.

>>133138614
>That sounds oppressively boring.
>flag

>>133106676

You should read Ride the Tiger as well since Revolt was written before the Nazis lost WW2

>>133106926
Wear a feels guy mask and regularly dry-wash your hands for maximum ECHO

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>>133138888(Checked)
Gold in the Furnace is for you. Here is a song with interesting lyrics. The swastika wasn't chosen just because.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-wZwn_WU0
https://www.savitridevi.org/gold-01.html

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>>133109062
I'd be interested in checking this out.

>>133108343
>>133108658
Never heard of this guy. Yeah, he's good. :)

Looking forward to seeing his take on Lovecraft

>>133106926
If you pick out my comment from the plethora of posts, I want you to know that it's a good idea.

>>133141505
Jesus fuck that picture is cancerous.