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Sheriff won't let his deputies carry overdose antidote

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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSto...afety-48498413

>A sheriff in an Ohio county with record numbers of drug deaths in recent years is sticking to his longstanding refusal to allow deputies to carry an overdose antidote.

>Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones remains opposed for safety reasons because, he asserts, people can become hostile and violent after being revived with naloxone, which can reverse the effects of an opioid overdose and is often referred to by the brand name Narcan. Deputies in neighboring counties in southwest Ohio do carry it.

>"I don't do Narcan," Jones told The Cincinnati Enquirer. "They never carried it. Nor will they. That's my stance."

>County emergency crews administer naloxone, and the Butler County Health Department has been offering free kits to relatives and friends of people with addiction.

>Jones' latest comments came after a city councilman in Butler County's Middletown drew national attention with his suggestion that emergency crews should stop responding to people who repeatedly overdose. Councilman Dan Picard also suggested that people who overdose should be forced to perform community service to make up for the cost of an emergency run.


Can anyone explain why this is bad?
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I'm certified police in state of Florida. Police are not allowed to administer medication in the state of emergency because we are level 1 first aid responders. The media is so fucking dumb. No wonder my whole department voted for Trump.
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baste
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>>133092655
Why spend limited resources on people fatties and junkies that pretty much killed themselves though their own shit life choices? How does that make any sense?

The delusion that everybody can and should be saved from themselves is dysgenic and extremely dangerous. We'd do a lot better admitting to ourselves it won't work and start better prioritizing the allocation of our time and resources.
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>>133093784
wholeheartedly agreed
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>>133092655
because they arent medical experts? you might end up drugging up somebody that doesnt need it and has another issue. nobody needs to save overdosing drugaddicts from their fate.
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>>133094359
And if you talk to any EMT/Police, they'll tell you they deal with the same people that keep getting in trouble over and over again.

Catering for the nigger-tier bottom 5% is hugely expensive, if we'd just let them kill themselves we could take care of everyone else at half the cost of what it is now.
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>>133093784
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>>133092655

What's the point in reviving a junkie when he'll just end up ODing again later that night? There's no such thing as a scared straight experience for someone in that deep with addiction.
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>>133095608
That's not how Narcan works. It literally doesn't react with anything, it only counters the effects of opioids. I'm DHS and we carry it in our medkits. Probably because we go through more thorough first aid than the average PD
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>>133092748
It differs from state to state. In N.Y., the police may carry and administer narcan.
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a bullet is probably cheaper. fuckin junkies
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>>133092655
He wants junkies to die. One strike and you're out. Simples, Janka.
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>>133092655

I don't know why you just don't chain them up before you give the drug.
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>>133097497
NYPD also gives them a choice to either get treatment or face charges. Or at least that's what they told me
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>>133092655
It isn't bad, he should step up and shoot the dealers and the producers next.
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I don't know how they do it in the US police departments, but here we're told not to touch anyone who's ODd or otherwise incapacitated since if they die while you're treating them, you may become criminally liable for their death. And fuck going to jail because some junkie decided to kill himself with his own poor life decisions.
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>>133092655
Ohio's own Duterte. Good man!
Druggies can rot.
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>>133092655
not sure how legal and safe it is to allow cops to act as nurses/doctors, it's not their job nor responsability
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>>133092655
>i bet this will make black ppl mad somehow
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>>133097996
Police are getting more medical training in the US so they can respond to medical emergencies since they tend to be the first responders, especially in the case of active shooters and other violent crimes. EMTs and Fire Departments won't enter an unsafe scene, and if police are already inside, they can carry victims out or administer aid on site instead of watching them die. The Pulse club shooting is a good example of this
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>>133092748
Same in ohio. State law says they are legally allowed to administer it. I just saw a ranger give narcan to some white trash on the beach the other day
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>>133092655
He's literally letting drug abuse VICTIMS die.

They have a right to live. Let's abort babies
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>>133092655
>Can anyone explain why this is bad?

Its not. Its not his job to revive junkie trash,

Let em all die.
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>>133097980
>2526304.011 Euro
it's fucking nothing
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>>133098713
What does he mean by this?
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>>133092655
>fuck drumpf and fuck working class white drug addicts

See it's funny he can get away with it because the people overdosing aren't niggers but just lame white people, and who gives a fuck about white people?

But seriously though shit like this makes me think whites deserve to be wiped out, being that they're constantly cowards too afraid to deal with niggers ruining shit but are always eager to serve law and justice (lol not really) to other white people since they can get away with it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_County%2C_Ohio#Demographics

>91.2% white

See what did I tell you?

>HAHA FUCK WHITE DRUG ADDICTS LMAO I'M THE SHERIFF

If he was doing this in a city he'd be raked over the coals for being a racist meanie, and he'd never try it because "them poor niggers n sheeit"

Fuck this race traitor and fuck every white person who acts like him
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>>133095608
>you might end up drugging up somebody that doesnt need
This would be the worst possible outcome. Narcan even stops the bodies natural painkilling mechanisms and disables any opioid treatment until it wears off. If someone isn't ODing but unconscious for other reasons it'd be extremely cruel to administer. The cruelty potential for naloxone is just too great.
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>>133097720
>>133092748
I would say the huge difference here is that this cuck is fine with it because the people dying are pretty much all white. He has the power to unfuck their shit under Ohio law but chooses to let them die because "lol white trash". White people are pathetic cannibalistic faggots who couldn't stand up for their race if it meant their own survival.
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>>133099434
>>133099291
>>133099163

this is actually why white people are superior to all others. in a nigger country or asia, yea they'll try and save all this human trash. in european countries we just say fuck you, you can die now due to your shit choices. so the genetic trash is taken out of the gene pool very effectively and the remaining white people are off a high quality

yes its bad, but these people only bring down the quality of the white race anyway
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Overdoses certainly seem to have gone up since narcan came on the scene. I don't think it's unreasonable to think junkies are using more dope because they are less fearful of dying from an overdose because narcan exists. This should be studied. However, it seems like something liberals don't want to be true, and since they control research funding, it probably won't happen.
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>>133099618
You took the bait like a idiot. Don't even respond next time or to this next post
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>>133099783
I don't think they're related. People don't tend to do drugs in public places where they're likely to be found, they usually don't want to be at all. They also have a habit to react violently when coming around due to narcan because you're taking their high away.
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>>133099783
It's likely due to the ease of access and lowered price of heroin, and the addition of Fentanyl makes overdoses more likely.
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Knowledge of available revival can and will spur people into repeated usage and lack of caution in these things.

Don't get addicted to fentanyl. These people have no hope of a productive life after a stint of these substances so what problem is a compunction to administering anti oding medication or whatever you'd call these things? The shit coming out of Vancouver up here is comical with these bleeding heart libfilth. Positively cartoonish rates of death in the street with fuckup 'whites' waging the second opiate war upon themselves.
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well police aren't in the business of saving lives so this doesn't surprise me
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>>133092655
>be junkie
>hate life
>finally OD
>ready for death
>cop revives you and sends you to jail

He's doing them and us a favor.
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>implying only degenerate druggies will ever OD
>little kid finds drugs on the street and touches it, dies
>own member of your force comes into contact with fentanyl, dies
>accidental pain med overdose, dies

>violating your entire motto of "To serve and protect" because you're an edgy fuck

America is fucked. Healthcare is shit, you give out narcs like candy, bankrupt the patient, drive them to cheap street drugs, then shrug your shoulders when they die.
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>>133100904
>These people have no hope of a productive life after a stint of these substances

>No one who has ever had a drug addiction has ever gotten clean or been successful
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>>133101724
>all lives are worth saving
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>>133100904
Fentanyl is so fucked up, it's so easy to die from it and its super addictive. Like shit i can barely get my weed habit under control. People on Fentanyl prolly got no hope.
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>>133101835
I mean, you're an edgy /pol/ shitposter, so if you're quantifying the value of lives...
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>>133101809
>implying you go from elephant tranquilizer addict to functioning human being
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>>133099163
>>133099291
>>133099434
Being white doesn't = free pass to be a degenerate and ruin the lives of others in your community.
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>>133100400
Does Narcan reverse the effects of Fentanyl? I hope not.
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>>133099783
overdoses have been going up since doctors got everyone addicted to oxycontin, doctors were paid to say synthetic heroin wasn't very addictive
then the chinese/mexicans are getting rich making this extremely potent shit called fentanyl that's impossible to dose correctly unless you have a $10,000 scale
it would be like pouring a vial of acid into a bag of sugar, mixing it up and then trying to figure out a single dose
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>>133101809
What is the recovery rate of heroin addicts like 2%?
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>>133101835
Not yours
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>>133101942
stop falling for the bait.
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>>133102170
something super fucking low
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>>133098658
I like u.
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>>133101724
>accidental pain med overdose, dies
Explain how you manage that?
>I know it said right on the bottle to only take 2 but I ended up taking 10 whoops

>>133101809
>if it saves one it's worth it
You're willing to put a huge drain on the economy just to save 1 (one) life? I guess addicts are a huge commodity to the rehab market because the law must keep them alive in any event and they must pay for rehab services and the state probably pays for them if they can't pay. Why do you feel good propping up such a system?

>>133102040
Yes. It's an opioid antagonist, so it puts a hard cap on how much opioids can effect you.
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>>133097685
Because the sheriff is just using it as an excuse not to have to revive junks who, at long last, have finally removed themselves as a burden upon society. And he is completely right in that, he jist can't say it openly
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>>133101400
Jail for what? Being high isnt a crime. When i od’d i woke up in a hospital and there was no mention of criminality at any point. I guess if you overdoses next to your drugs they could charge you but that isnt always the case.
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>>133102341
>I guess addicts are a huge commodity to the rehab market because the law
they should just legalize all drugs because what's the point of propping up this corrupt system
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>>133092655


>people who do things I don't like deserve to die

really makes you think
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>>133092748
fellow floridian here, thank you for your service homie you guys deal with some crazy shit out here idk where your located but my city supports you senpai
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>>133102233
>des moines

I actually know an addict from there. She relapsed with her bf and he OD and died. She's still crippling addicted to the stuff despite losing everything. Its pretty rampant in the city as a whole.
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>>133092655
It isn't.
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>>133102467
>it is no one's explicit responsibility to do anything at all for drug addicts
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>>133092655
>Muh humans deserve a second chance and shit

This is not even slightly bad. You don't want to overdose? Don't do drugs.

Fucking junkies. Hopefully if they all die the world will become slightly more bearable.
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>>133092655

Pretty sure EMTs and Firefighters are the only ones allowed to carry drugs anyways.

>muh police can't into paramedic
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>>133101724
I'm with the leaf on this. You can OD on Fentanyl just through skin contact, shit is dangerous.
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>>133102341
Yes the state covers junkie rehab. Its not a one off either. Junkies will go back to rehab multiple times and never pay anything for it.

>>133102409
Most tie off, shoot up and nod off. So their shit is right there a lot of the time.
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>>133102566
it's the responsibility of the state to put them in private prisons for profit
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We protect the supply of heroin, why not protect it's consumers? Its freedom at its best.
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easy to say coming from a tough guy sheriff

If you have ever been addicted to opiates or know someone who has, it is no longer a choice at that point. You are quite literally physically and mentally dependent on the stuff.

My friend is in a mental institute because he would rather kill himself then live another day on heroin

these people need help and treatment, not just cast aside for dead. This is a liberal opinion I will defend untill my death
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>>133092655
Sounds like a bullshit hit piece. Since when do cop do the job of paramedics? Even a EMT wouldn't be allowed to administer narcan. That's why paramedics make the big bucks
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Daily reminder that most of the people dying of overdoses in rust belt states like this are white.
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>>133102040
It does
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>>133102512
>Its pretty rampant in the city as a whole.

The same could be said for everything town from fucking ames to ottumwa.

It used to be meth that was the main problem, now its those fucking ms-13 shitbags who got cozy with the sinola cartel faggots coming in from chicago bringing their heroin and fentanyl.
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>>133092748
Thanks for your service, not being ironic.
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>>133102849
Much of the blame for the opioid epidemic falls to pharmaceutical companies and doctors who prescribe the stuff like candy.
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>>133092655
Former Heroin dealer and massive addict for a few years. AMA
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>>133102726
>You are quite literally physically and mentally dependent on the stuff.
At what point are you crippled for life and are better off dead? There's a point where it's a total waste of money to treat someone, especially if they're 20-30 and fucked themselves to the point of being unemployable or otherwise totally incapable of becoming independent.
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>>133102726
please off yourself you insufferable faggot. junkies arent people. let them die, regardless of race. they just get high and have 8 kids that become dependent on the state. they always have shit tier genetics too.
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love america
we have the freedom to die from od, but if you're enjoying cannabis you go to jail
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>>133103157
I turned away from other drugs and to cannabis. I know pol mostly disagrees but i find it shocking that mere posession of a substance with no intent to sell or large amounts is still illegal. What a waste to lock people up for posession.
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>>133103013
I honestly don't blame the pills as much as I blame them prescribing fucking Methodone after they get busted and in trouble for opiate users now.

They are seriously just giving them fucking drugs, the same exact shit mind you which is opiates, to get through the day everyday, the concept drives me nuts.
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>>133102726
I agree we should research addiction much more and actually find ways to combat it. Rehab is a fucking lie that doesn't work at all and only keeps them clean during.

>>133102810
We know, why do you think there are /pol/ threads about heroin everyday?

>>133102849
Very true. I grew up in Newton (30 mins East of Des Monies). My entire childhood the big bad drug was meth, labs and tweekers were everywhere.

It seems like all the right people fell into meth though, opiates cast a much broader net.
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>>133103016
Me too, i started selling H at 16. This shit is the plague and Jews like the sackler family who own purdue pharma started this mess just like David Sassoon did with the opium war with china. The Jews did this, its always the Jews.

Been clean for 1 month tho hbu?
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>>133103016
How many of your customers died?
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>>133103109
gnarly dude, sweet edges man

>>133103040
Who is in charge of deciding when someone is worth treating or not though? I've seen very very good people go down the wrong path, and it's really painfull to watch your friends slowly kill themselves.

Aside from being an addict, a lot of these people are young 20-30 year old respectable white people. You have niggers and trash sure, but this has become an epidemic
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>>133103380
>Rehab is a fucking lie that doesn't work
Ibogaine is classified as a Schedule I-controlled substance in the United States,[62] and is not approved there for addiction treatment
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>>133092748

>Florida
>police

Oh god I can only imagine the things you've seen. Greentext for us.
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>>133103109
>internet tough guy detected.

A good number of heroin addicts started off after a pill pusher doctor started them on these.

Mind you that Oxycontin was originally marketed as having no physical addiction.
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>>133103261
>posession of a substance with no intent to sell
Which you bought from someone who totally intended to sell it. I don't really have a problem with voluntary transactions but if there's no one intending to sell it then how did you even get it?
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>>133103510
Ibogaine is dangerous. I'm not against it being used as treatment if it actually helps, but idk how much of that is true.
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>>133093784

but if they die how can you get any more sheckles out of them (and you buy having to pay sheckles for the junkie's OD goy)?
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>>133103554
well i gifted anon some money and because he is such a good guy he gifted me some marijuana as thanks (:
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>>133103554
My point is most people are not involved in distribution themselves. Of course someone had to sell it to them but what is your point?
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>>133103676
it should be studied more, same with cannabis
for ages the government blocks research and tells us it's bad
maybe they could research it and find a safer way to administer it
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>>133092655
Good. Cops aren't doctors.
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>>133092655
>muh hometown
>muh Hamiton. OH
God Bless Richard Jones
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>>133103425
I personally don't have a problem with it. I find the best way to control it is legalization and regulation. That way there is data on whom is addicted, how much they're using, and who is using. Plus if its like a methadone clinic? Lot of money for dem programs to be made off of willful heroin addicts.
I shot 7 grams a day. Most I ever did was 11 in a day.
I also cold turkeyed. Methadone fucked me up and made me even worse. Ended up going back on Heroin just to get off of Methadone at one point.

I don't so much think it is a plague, I think its an object that has not been respected since cartels and organizations that don't give a fuck about you are the ones selling it.

>>133103434
Unknown. Is this just curiosity? Or do you have a point to be made?
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>>133103554

Wow you are actually stupid.
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>>133092655
The administration of drugs should be limited to EMS, doctors or nurses.

Not Sheriff Deputies, unless they are also EMS, doctors or nurses.
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>>133103510
Whats your point on this? Splenda got approved through bribes. Fuck the FDA.

LSD is a wonderful medicine for the mind in some people.
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What if you came home to your daughter OD'ing and you were to much of a stubborn prick to carry narcan on you?
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>letting drug addicts live

if you agree with this and oppose the sheriff you are nu-chan cancer
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>>133102726
then please by all means voluntarily overdose on heroin and stop having that opinion
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>>133104230
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>>133104139
my point is people are complaining that rehab doesn't work
there are chemicals that could work but are schedule 1 and aren't allowed to be researched under US law
so the government is doing us a disservice in blocking research while not finding a solution to an ongoing problem
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>>133104163
what if you came home ot your daughter OD'ing and you were to much of a narcan to carry a stubborn prick on you?

I guess someone isn't getting dicked down
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Because the junkies are better off dead, and society is better off with the junkies dead.
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>all drug addicts need to die because muh feels

not an argument
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>druggies die and stop costing me money through their abuse of social safety nets

Where's the problem?
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>>133104230
Howard Hughes loved injecting opiates. I can assure you that he was more valuable than you are.
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>>133092655
Because people deserve second chances and heroin addicts aren't destroying as much of their brains as a crackhead or meth user-- they can still contribute to society if they're given the chance to turn their lives around.
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>>133104367
Should've read some more on my part.

You're completely correct.
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>>133104163
Then you deserve it for being such a shit parent that your daughter OD's. Deal with it or off yourself.
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>>133104059
If you don't go after the buyers, then there'll always be suppliers willing to supply the demand. If someone possesses a small amount, then he got it from somewhere. If we lock up or otherwise physically remove the demand then the suppliers will have little incentive to stay in the market.
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>>133092655

>It's the job of police to also be medical professionals

Uh huh.

>They're letting people die

Uh huh

Honestly I don't hate junkies. Hell if you knew someone like a brother and was a junkie, you wouldn't want them to die. In the coming fascism, I hope addicts get into forced rehabilitation until they're clean. As for drug dealers, they should be whipped and them slaughtered.
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>>133102040
Not in extreme doses, which some analogues of fentanyl can cause through accidental poisoning through the skin by a miniscule amount.
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Pretty stupid. Cops have almost died because of accidental exposure to the drug.
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>>133104577
Police are taught basic first aid and literally all you need to administer narcan is a half hour class. It's insanely easy.
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>>133092655

It's neither good nor bad. It's just the way it is. Go watch A Street Cat Named Bob. It's a true story.
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>>133092655
let. the. druggies. die.
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>>133102726
You are not misguided in your opinion. The reason that the their is a drug epidemic in the United Stats is a related to the decline of the family/community/social capital in society. Instead of traditionally bonding with family and romantic partners, people are bonding with other things (drugs, porn) to cope with their lack of emotional connection. Fix our social fabric and relationships and more people will turn away from drugs to escape their emotional problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg
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>>133104683
Yep. You support the drug war? You might become a casualty in the war. However the kill rate for non-violent offenders vs. aggressor cops is massively on the side of the cop.

I have little sympathy for any one that supports the drug war.
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PROTECT AND SERVE*

*unless you ingest the wrong substance

are we gonna start refusing to treat alcohol poisoning, or High blood sugar?
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>>133104507
I personally know junkies who hate the drug they are addicted to and have gone through state sponsored rehab multiple times as well as jail. That's a lot of chances.
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>>133104577
>no my precious friend dindu nuffin, it was the fault of those damned dealers who he voluntarily purchased the evil drugs from which he then voluntarily put the drugs in his body
This is the hugest problem with the drug war. Our unwillingness to cast off the demand and just blame the supply for everything, rather than realize that there was a voluntary transaction between both parties. You're as bad as communists "those evil corporations forced me to eat McDonald's every day".
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>>133104857
SCOTUS has determined that the police have no duty to protect or serve.

Also, applying medical assistance isn't what the police are for.

The police are there to enforce the power of the state at your expense.
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>>133104882
>you made a bad choice bud, your damned for eternity now, nothing personal kid
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>>133092655
Sheriff on there sheriff
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>>133104882
The hugest problem with the war on drugs is that it exists. I really don't care if someone wants to shoot up. Let them ruin their lives, but don't force me to subsidize their lifestyle.
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>>133105005
>people who continuously make acceptable to good choices in life need to massively pay for people who continue to make strings of 1000 terrible choices in life

Go fucking take your drugs to your commune and do whatever you want to. No police, no EMS, no social services. If you leave your commune you will be shot.
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>>133105005
You have all of humanity's knowledge in your pocket and have been warned many, many times not to do it. It's on you at this point.
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>>133092655
Wait a second.

You do know that most opiate addicts are white americans who have been prescribed that junk by JEW doctors right?
Why are you applauding this crypto kikes decision to let VICTIMS of drug addiction die?

Pretty fucking stupid. Drug abuse can happen to anyone, anytime.
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>>133097980
Wtf is shabu?
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>>133104882
It's obvious people are too stupid to truly manage themselves. If people were smart enough we wouldn't have a obesity epidemic. That's where your freedoms fail, it implys people are smart enough to use it well. Their not.
You've also got to take into account it's an addiction it isn't something stupid like speeding or robbing a bank it's literally the chemicals in your brain fucking with you. I can bet if we got you hooked on one of the most addictive drugs you would fail to drop the drug.

>This is the hugest problem with the drug war. Our unwillingness to cast off the demand and just blame the supply for everything.

Sure I can agree with that. one state sponsored rehab if you fail that it's death or a long jail sentence, just bring in the Philippians laws and let citizens go and slaughter drug users and their sellers

>inb4 just legalize everything and let the free market fix it all

No then you get a drug ridden shitholes like Mexico and meth communities with the white niggers, since drugs don't kill you that fast
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>>133105251
Methamphetamine, also called yaba, it's usually pressed into pills in Asia.
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>>133104947

I have a wacky idea

How about the police and the state listen to their boss, WE THE PEOPLE


We have entire communities of people here in the rust belt screaming "Help us! the kids are dieing!" and no one gives a fuck, go ahead, lock them up, collect your shekels, put up more prisons, push out new drugs, get more people addicted, then ride away on your fucking high horse you miserable greedy fucks
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>>133104793
this ^
people aren't getting the good feels from life so they're turning towards drugs. I'm sure people in the rust belt would rather be hunting fishing and making an honest living while raising a family, but those opportunities are dwindling. Every other commercial is for some antidepressant or dick pill. Some people turn to binge eating, some turn to drugs, and some find productive surrogate activities, but it's all a symptom of a sick society.
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>>133105180
>Drug abuse can happen to anyone, anytime.
Actually there's a huge genetic factor for it. Family history of drug abuse/alcoholism is a big one. He shouldn't have to lower ourselves to who has the weakest genetics.
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>>133105341
S-stop dropping redpills for once
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>>133098301
What doesn't? If they arent mad already, just give the merchants some time to wind them up into a chimpout.
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>>133104507
None of that matters. If they wanted a second chance they'd have perused medical help. That they are encountering law enforcement instead only proves they do not want help.

Cops don't always make detective, you know. A good many of them aren't exactly the smartest people either. I don't want them injecting me with anything. We've already given them the go ahead to inject people with lead and look how much that alone has cost the taxpayer.
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>>133105419
Genetics? No, it's purely enviromental. If a kid grows up in a household with drugs, obviously they're gonna do drugs at some stage.

Alcoholic parents, kid is adopted into good family, doesn't do drugs.
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>>133105336
You have too many people who immediately side with the police on all issues in order to have any real oversight of the police.

Tons of people on /pol/ celebrate when cops shoot niggers (I'm one of them) but then stay completely silent when a cop shoots an unarmed white dude (which usually doesn't even make national news).

/pol/ needs to start realizing they have more in common with niggers than cops, because cops view you as nothing more than a nigger they can get away with shooting. Source: my dad and brother are cops (flint and michigan state trooper).
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>>133092655
probably a christian and a libertarian
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>>133105556
America just has shit cops. Try moving to a place with an actual white population. Cops are based here
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>>133105336
If you were the boss, you'd have the gun.

Machine supremacy is real life.
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>>133092655
During grad school I trained and was certified as an EMT, did a couple of ride-alongs, etc. The attitude among EMTs is basically the same as this- it's a waste of taxpayer money, it endangers them when junkies go into instant withdrawal and you have to fight them the whole ambulance ride, and it's generally just a stay of execution before they OD again. Sheriff seems to know better than sheltered bleeding hearts who don't wanna acknowledge harsh realities.
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OMG it forces drug addicts to be responsible for themselves instead of making the taxpayers and sheriffs responsible.
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I believe in being given one chance. They should administer the antidote one time per person and put a tattoo somewhere on them to mark if they've had the shot. If the person has the tattoo and they're ODing, tough luck.
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>>133092655
>Councilman Dan Picard also suggested that people who overdose should be forced to perform community service to make up for the cost of an emergency run.

Any this is somehow a bad thing in a liberal's mind? Seriously? GIBS ME DAT
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>>133105711
if my tax money finds its way to foreign countries then by god it can find its way to a dying American
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I knew a heroin addict. He stole around $100k from his family, draining their bank accounts, maxing out their CCs, and pawning a bunch of assets at various shops outside of the city.

The family foreclosed on their house, his younger sister didn't get to go to college after the father put money away for her school.

Stole from everyone friend and family member he could, and also would commit random burglaries. He had stabbed a guy to death in a drug house after being pistol whipped. He overdosed and died about 2 years ago. Worthless piece of shit, good thing the family is finally done with him.
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>>133092655


>FUCK PIGS THEY DO RETARDED ON PURPOSE UGH BLM

>HELP PIGS SAVE ME SAVE ME PLAY DOCTOR FOR THIS ONE TIME


fuck em
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How about I get my tax dollars back into my pocket, instead of "saving" a dying American who doesn't pay taxes, chose to do it to himself, and is just going to overdose and die later anyways.

Have you seen the long term stats on people who recover from heroin? Hint, they don't.
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>>133105974
How the hell do you just go along with this? After the first $10k just kick him out and be done with it.
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>>133105554
genetics is legitimately a big part of it

Have you never wondered why natives in the americas are massive alcoholics? Its because their body has never experienced it, and they have no tolerance for its addictive properties.
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>>133103109
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge bud, don't fall into schlomo's plan that all white's that they got hooked on opiates shouldn't be saved. Some that repeatedly do shitty things sure but not all are nigger tier.

JEWS ARE BEHIND THE HEROIN EPIDEMIC
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2015/07/01/the-oxycontin-clan-the-14-billion-newcomer-to-forbes-2015-list-of-richest-u-s-families/#1f6babf875e0
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And you can make your bull shit argument for anything. If my tax money can find its way to foreign countries then it can find its way to provide an AR-15 to every family in this country to defend themselves from heroin addicts looking to rob and murder them.
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>>133105871
geez I'd move away if I or a family member was really sick.

if you had cancer he'd probably make you buy a car for the police department
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>>133092655
O.P. you think conspiracy nuts are havining a ball now

What do you think the response will be when non medical professionals start dispensing Narcan like fucking Pez.

> Hypotension, hypertension, ventricular tachycardia and fibrillation, dyspnea, pulmonary edema, and cardiac arrest. Death, coma, and encephalopathy have been reported as sequelae of these events. Excessive doses of naloxone hydrochloride in post-operative patients have resulted in significant reversal of analgesia, and have caused agitation.

Have fun convincing the chimps that Officer bill isn't trying to genocide them with pills.
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>>133092655
based /oursheriff/
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>>133106226
dude you can like to get high and not be a fucking nigger
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I don't get it either. My best friend was good friends with the addict's brother. My buddy would always say, "why can't he just die, the family will be ruined". Then, he finally did... on both counts. They moved to a new city to try to completely start over.
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>>133092655
Do police officers carry resuscitators? Do they carry adrenaline shots? Do they carry any other form of medical equipment? Why should they carry this one?
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Shoot up H and not be a nigger? <wrong>
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Jewish Crash of 18
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>>133106495
It's not even that, the problem is edgy (((people))) instantly condemning others to death or prison because they put the wrong things in their body.

Not every addict is sub-human trash, and not every sober person is a saint
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gotta love how these public servants will take it upon themselves to make sure ppl are punished for their weakness.

not the pharmaceutical companies tho

idiot needs to be fired
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>>133105556
This, police are literally ZOG enforcers. Low IQ people that wanted to play cowboy and are given a badge that lets them play judge, jury, and executioner. Of course the media don't report when one of these backwoods retard police shoot an unarmed white man schlomo can't have his precious bootlickers questioning authority only the chimps can do that.
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>>133097980
I really wish there was an open season on drug dealers, holy shit.
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>>133092655
Translation

>I'm a good ol' boy, fuck niggers
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>>133106753
The addicts can get one chance. Then they either get cut off from all state protection and benefits or loose all their freedom and get imprisoned.

Dealers and people who profit of this have no legal rights and can be shot on sight unless they turn themselves in.

Perfect
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Surprised /pol/ is lauding overwhelming white deaths
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>>133106116
>After the first $10 just kick them out
FTFY cuck
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>>133107071
A liberal transnigger is not white.
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>>133107071
You don't get a free pass for simply being White. Being White is deeper then your skin
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>>133106753
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

they wouldn't go down without a fight

better to just legalize and tax the current "controlled substances"
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>>133107217
>>133107207
I wonder what's gonna kill the white race first: the opioid crisis or inter marriage?

Not that I even give a shit, I'm a brown dude. Just strange that you guys are unwilling to see drug abuse as a weakness, one that often skyrockets during time of economic struggle, like in Ohio.
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>>133107071
likely the same halfwits that claim to be the defenders of western civilizational
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>>133099783
As I say in every junkie thread...my "friends" go double up as long as they can get narcan. You can probably guess my state
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>>133107314
Shitty drugged out heroin addicts lying in a back alley are not United State retard policies giving free guns away to cartels. These cartels which by the way don't take the drugs themselves put profit off of them.

That's why the civilians can get open season on them too. Simply by selling the and using the drugs they are hurting the community.
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>>133104481
Sauce?
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>>133099419
Damn, so that stuff would just leave you feeling extremely restless and uncomfortable?
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>>133105251
Shabu-shabu
https://youtu.be/D223S4mcboY?t=434
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>>133107612
so you want to focus on killing american drug users?
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>>133107431
Always kill a traitor before dealing with outside enemies.
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>>133107849
Drug users are obviously not in the right mind. You don't give a schizophrenic the right to refuse his medicine.

Their addicted that means they are not in the right mind and can't think logically anymore. They have two choices, either go clean or die for polluting the moral fabric of society and wasting tax dollars on police who have to respond to robberies and murders.

So yes American drug uses are no longer American citizens they have given up that right when they became mentally ill and unable to control themselves. Drug addicts cannot control themselves that's why it's an addiction
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>>133105005
>one bad choice
>those hundreds upon hundreds of time you took coke or heroin, its all just one bad choice lmao
People have agency, deal it with retard
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problem is liberalisation of drug usage. Now that weed has been normalised, the next frontier is harder drugs like bentos/codeine/heroin/Xanax which are all commonly abused and mixed with marijuana/alcohol. Listen to any rap song on the radio and it is about Xanax/Percocet/codeine, liberals love moving the goalposts, they mocked conservatives when they said weed was a gateway drug but are now claiming heroin is completely unrelated and is a health problem lmao. Problem is lack of moral standards, employment and meaningful relationships.
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>>133106202
>>133107767
Here is archive of article about jewish family who won purdue pharma :

http://archive.is/QFYrC
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>>133107943
In this case the (((outside enemy))) started prescribing opiates like candy. Now he sits back and laughs while you condemn other whites to die.
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>>133106495
We have first aid kits with tourniquets, splints, an AED, NPAs, decompression needle and chest seals, etc. It's for officer use, but can be administered to civilians if necessary
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>>133108446
Once they take opiates, there is no saving them. Rehabilitation rates are in the single digits at tens of thousands of dollars per person at (((rehab centers))). Get that through your thick skull. Stop wasting everyone's resources on druggies.
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>>133108119
people have been using "drugs" for over 10,000 years, and only in the last ~100 they been demonized
we already have laws for robbery and murder
you probably use or have used government approved drugs like caffeine, nicotine, or alcohol
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>>133104464
>all drug addicts need to be saved because muh feels

not an argument
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>>133092655
A policeman isn't a medic.

Can you imagine the how hard they would be sued if they fucked something up?
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>>133108861
>people have been using "drugs" for over 10,000 years, and only in the last ~100 they been demonized
And the only drugs were plant based ones and alcohol, not drugs made to be addictive. Drugs in the last 100 years have been designed to hook you on one go. Funny enough made for a market which would flourish due to how addictive and cheaply produced they are.
>we already have laws for robbery and murder
And? Drugs are a crime your not in the right mind if you do drugs. You harm the community by using and selling them. Transexaulity and homosexuality should also be crimes
>you probably use or have used government approved drugs like caffeine, nicotine, or alcohol
No my body is a temple i do not pollute it with harmful chemicals
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>>133108861
The successful nobility and old money have always aggressively condemned using drugs in their families. It is like they know that being a druggie destroys any power they have.
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>>133109385
Well said.

I'd like to add that a cop is responsible for upholding the law, so at best if a druggie is overdosing, call medics.
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>>133108824
I take them on and off when I need it for pain. I can go, and go, for weeks without. I have a strict set of rules that I follow. I have been doing this for a long time.

Opiates are like pot. The chemical addiction isn't the issue. People useing them as a crutch IS.
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>>133101724
"To serve and protect" is just paint on a car door.
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>>133099786
>>133102212
>bait
>nazi flag
>lol fuck white people

Kill yourself shithead

>>133101942
>>133099618
Yeah man

>white guy gets shot by cops
>white people cheer
>black guy gets shot by cops
>blacks instantly jump in to defend their fellow black

No, this is why white people are going to be wiped out because whites are pathetic "colorblind" faggots who couldn't help a suffering white person if it killed them. Selfish, jewy, self-centered fuckwits who whine about their own decline and then call for the execution of anyone who isn't a middle class suburbanite.
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>>133109417
Your body is worthless because you larp as a nazi but are just another selfish suburban white faggot with no respect for the kind of racial solidarity nazism preaches

When everything breaks down I hope a nigger rapes your anus, because you sure as shit aren't going to be allowed to join any real white militias with your jewish attitude towards poor white people
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narcan requires no medical training or certification, you'd have to be literally retarded to mess it up. even then...
the only argument is that the addicts are better left dead. anyone expecting the police to actually help them in america is a an idiot
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>>133106811
You couldn't be bothered to look up Butler County? It's 91% white, chucklefuck. He's letting white people die and boasting about it publicly because no one will care if someone says "lol just kill all the poor whites"
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>>133092655
its not the polices job to keep worthless druggies from overdosing. also how much do you want to enable these "people" with free antidote around every corner.
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>>133105341
>hunting fishing and making an honest living while raising a family

Sounds like utopia to me. RIP Humanity.
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>>133109385
They are though. They're taught first aid to care for injured officers in the field of duty. Narcan is also literally dummy proof, it's a nasal spray
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>>133092655

> One less welfare sponge
> One less lowlife robbing the elderly
> One scumbag attacking paramedics, doctors and nurses.
I don't see a problem with this. Just let the junkies overdose.
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>>133092655

Also, he's not the only one

http://wchstv.com/news/nation-world/councilman-emergency-crews-should-not-respond-to-repeat-overdose-calls-after-two-strikes

http://archive.is/No933
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