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I used to be one of you guys from 2016 until last month. I was collecting redpills and pepe images, involved in observing alt-right podcasts, spending time posting in /pol/ nonstop and even involved with other far-right people in my area and feeding them information I learned from /pol/.

I realized very soon how from this entire place is. No, it didn't "become triggering to know the truth", I just begun to see logical inconsistencies, the anti-intellectualism, and even straight out hate against everything deviating from the norm. You will read many stories on /pol/ of the individuals that spend their time in this dark vortex, and none of them have fulfilled or reached the goals in their life (if they have, they would have done it faster without the politics bullshit anyway). Most people here are sad and use politics as a way to distract them from real life.

You people talk about "happenings" while you are the most vulnerable people in the entire world when I real happening would go down. You talk about "race war" while you are clearly not in any kind of fighting shape, mentally and physically. You talk about "we need a new Hitler" while an actual fascist dictatorship would have people like either shoved to work long, grueling hours in a weapons factory or straight up gassed for "being pornography-addicted degenerates". You talk about "saving the white race" while you all hate most white people that exist for having a wrong worldview, not being germanic enough or "being Chads not into politics enough".

Truth is, all of you are just as fucked up by the capitalism system as the poor blacks in the ghetto, being stuck with student loans and mental issues that could be treated easily if you had universal access to healthcare. Truth is that before Marx and his ideas came along, people worked long hours in the factories with no working safety regulations or defined working hours. Ben Carson has more in common with rich whites than with average blacks in america.
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I am not a "cultural marxist", "paid shill" or a "kike". I used to be one of you. I don't go to /pol/ anymore, but once in a month I do just to check out what is going on with this movement, and what inspired me to write at the moment are the threads I keep seeing at the bottom of the catalogue where many of you just wish for a normal life, wish for compassion, understanding. Want a good job and a girlfriend. Not any of this "race war" bullshit.

If you hear me right now, I ask you to PLEASE stop going to /pol/. This place is full of lies. You don't need anything that goes on in here. More "redpills" you consume, the longer you will be trapped here. Do you really want to be in this place forever? If you are genuinely interested in politics, my best suggestion is to support Jeremy Corbyn in UK, who seems to have really good ideas for a better world, but you don't have to. First priority for you is to pick ANYTHING not politics related and try to get into this world. I will continue now to post some images that will debunk some of your talking points if you first need to be convinced why all these "redpills" are either lies or half-truths. I hope I will see you on the other side one day, Anon.

>hint for you - those you call SJW's are a minority in the left wing movements, they are extremely neoliberal-minded people and most of the left-wing people try to avoid being associated with them and even actively call them out on being stupid if they go too far, like that Milo Stewart weirdo

Future can be incredibly bright and there is still hope if you ditch this cesspool of idiots and anti-intellectual morons for the longest time you can muster.
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>>133080241
>from 2016 until last month
Lurk more newfag, or get the fuck out
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Nice blog post faggot
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>>133080241
>claims to be a /pol/ack
>doesn't understand the hyper intellectualism created by weaponized autism
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>>133080310
no fucking way, retard
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>>133080241
Get a job faggot
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>>133080308
You're a fucking shill for sure
Most liberals are fucking anti-white SJWs who say Trump is racist and get literally pissed off when someone say he isn't
But they say the racist Jew Bernie Sanders of course isn't racist and he's such a good guy
That's called being an SJW
Fucking moron
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>>133080241
Ben Carson has more in common with Doctors and Surgeons than average American black, whether they're white or wealthy is irrelevant
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>>133080438
>I hate reading
Well we already knew that about commies
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>>133080521
typical response from the common /pol/ retard who refuses to understand the other side of the argument
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>>133080241
>mfw a commie tries to recruit followers on my board
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Hi CNN.
9/11 was a Mossad / CIA false flag.
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>>133080514
>/pol/ is one person
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So what, you're an unironic communist now?
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but I do live in a country with dude free healthcare and I hate marxists and their failed theories as well as niggers

what now?
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>>133080620
wow dude you really got me, how did you know I was MOSSAD holy shit you guys really are hackers on steroids over here
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Look at this brave lad, attempting to offer the bluepilled to the meek who need to go back.
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>>133080241
Lol you really wrote all that go to bed
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nice concern trolling shareblue
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I hope the pics I have posted have been useful for someone who has been doubtful of alt-right stupidity
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Why are /leftypol memes so shit?
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>>133080607
That picture has nothing to do with my post
I'm talking about the fact that Trump is the farthest thing from a racist, he's a really nice guy yet Bernie Sanders says blatantly racist shit about white people, and liberals will get pissed off and insult someone who says Trump isn't racist
And while that picture has nothing to do with anything I said, Muslims literally worship a pedophile and their religion teaches people to conquer, kill and enslave all who don't submit to Sharia Law
The actions of White people can't be compared to actions of that pedophile terrorist cult
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>>133080308
ITT: newfag shill thinks he can lecture people and say "inb4 totally not a shill Gais!"

Saged with extreme prejudice. Go back to Gaia.
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>>133080826
Nobody cares about your paintshop Strawmans
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>>133080514
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>>133080690
No it just scares you fags off.
http://archive.is/5M72f
http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/
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>>133080241
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>>133080660
nope, more like a social democrat
I suggest this podcast I like to listen to myself
it's quite moderate stuff, not some "commie indoctrination re-education" just a bunch of young berniebros doing a cool podcast
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house
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>>133080826
Some of them are awful.
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>>133080241
POOR PASTA, MAMA MIA!!!
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Posting under EU flag = fuck off shitskin worhipper
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>>133080241
poor kike
>saged
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shill thread to spread disinformation. nihilism/blackpill bullshit. don't even read it.
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>>133080954
>social democrat
>berniebros

Disgusting
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>>133080308
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>>133080308
Thank you friend. I needed this to start my sculpting career. I won't forget you.
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>>133080954
>el chapo traphouse

my fucking sides. the people who run that podcast used to write for trash such as vice, the guardian, deadspin and gawket
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Gonna talk about /pol/ itself soon after this post
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>>133080904
Well the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle IMO. The past of the Templars is shrouded in mystery, no one knows for sure, but it is said that people stopped liking them because of the fact that they weren't acting like real christians which is why they were even accused of being Satanists as an excuse to destroy them
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>>133080241
>communism works guys.
It was a fine read till that part.
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>>133080241
>>>/shill/
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>>133080710
Gas yourself.
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>>133080241
pol
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satire
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>>133081116
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More stale pasta...Try something new ffs.
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>>133080856
Trump is not a racist, I agree, he is just a dumbass in general who can't even be good at being bigoted.
Stop moaning about Bernie, the neoliberals in the democrats will never let Bernie to win any elections. Sad but true.

Christianity has also lots of stupid shit in it, the fact that muslims are around who support Shariah law just proves that these people have had no access to proper education that challenges the religious dogmas.

>>133080854
still reposting that old screencap? It has been debunked a long fucking time ago already.

>>133080891
give me a break, kiddo
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>>133080241
the true mark of a leftypol is that it takes them multiple paragraphs to make a single point, and even then the logic is shaky

the sad part is that you still shill for action against a boogeyman, but it's people with money instead of hoodrats and so forth. thing is, I'm not affected that much by the former compared to the latter so your boogeyman fails to take hold
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>>133080241

That's where you're wrong, kiddo. I'm 6'9 turbochad chef at wendys making $100k and have 9 inch dick
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>/pol/ is one person: the thread
You forgot that this is board is ironic and satirist. No one actually believes anything they say here. If you were reading /pol/ sincerely you are a fucking moron. Why would you believe things anonymous strangers write on the internet?
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>>133081291
>acting like it's not your first day.
Not fooling anyone.
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>>133080241
Nice projection. There is a thousand times more evidence for people's beliefs on here than literally all news networks. People on here go read history as opposed to posting fake Abraham Lincoln quotes. Jews quite literally control all manipulating avenues (media, banks, etc). I am 6', armed, bench 280, squat 380 and hate what I see when I see weak nu-males trying to wreck society to fit the marxist way of life.

>Ben Carson has more in common with rich whites than with average blacks in america
lol why is this relevant? This just proves that blacks in the ghetto are there because of themselves and not because whitey is keeping them there.
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>>133080241
Sounds great OP. Be sure to take all the rest of the redditors like yourself with you on your intellectual journey.
Also anyone that replied to this thread without sage needs to fuck off forever, too.
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>leftypol

Dregs of human society.
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>>133080324
The truth found on pol is not something you can walk away from.
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>>133080241
Blow it out your ass
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>>133080241
Is this a ploy to remove normies?
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>>133081330
Maybe you can explain why those fucking commies took the double stack off the 4 for 4 deal?
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>go to /leftypol/
>criticize socialism based on countries that tried it and failed
>hurr that wasn't real socialism
>criticize socialism based on the standard definition of socialism
>hurr you don't know anything go read the manifestos
>criticize socialism based on what you read on the manifestos
>hurr the manifestos aren't the real material go read the other works
>criticize other works
>hurr that isn't the real material go read this obscure work
>criticize obscure work
>hurr why are you reading that obscure work?
...and this is why communists still exist in this day and age: it's a multi-layer system of retardation where you go down the rabbit hole until you find your own unique brand of communism - or come out unscathered if you have half a brain
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B8
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>>133080241
cool blog post have a (you) its not like the threads are good on pol anyway.
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>>133081574
/leftypol/ is a mental illness
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Your shitty Marxist theories have been tried multiple times and ended up failing horrendously or the countries packing their shit up and going back to capitalism like China and Vietnam. Marx was a fucking charlatan.
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>>133080308
Yes, you are a shill, paid or not, you smell like someone that just read an article on us and maybe spent an hour browsing before thinking of a "clever" means of sending us a "heartfelt plea" that may win us over. In truth you just spewed out the same tired talking points that liberals always use and believed them to be your own thoughts.

>>133080318
Wait isn't that 8pol?
Actually this whole diatribe you've gone into is probably based on that article someone posted on here earlier today isn't it? Or is it b8 based on that?
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Daily reminder that /pol/ fucking destroyed 4chan during 2016 by bringing in an influx of trump fags, shitting up every board with politics, trying to bring imageboard culture into the mainstream, bringing in retarded /pol/speak in unrelated discussions, using the same old tired memes from 2015 without creating anything new, and just being general retards who are wrong

I see fucking /pol/tards invade threads on /gif/ complaining about "degeneracy". I see fucking nigger hate threads on /tv/. I see people shilling for chic fil a because of their stance on gay marriage on /ck/. i fucking see people complaining about one dark skinned character on /v/.

You guys aren't "the new saviors and true knowledgeable patriots", you know what you guys are? The new fucking furfags, because everywhere I step on this godforsaken website, I step in /pol/shit.

If you retards actually knew about the history of this place, you would know that this is just a repeat of what happened in 2008 with /b/ and anonymaoose: a social movement originating from 4chan, bringing in tons of newfags and normalfags into this site

Fuck moot for /pol/harbor, you guys would just be the same old containment board without it. Scratch that, you would still be entertaining, just like in 2012
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Reminder that communism fell to
>a fucking super market
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>>133080826
your pics suck. They're ad hominem garbage and ancap bro btfo'd anything substantive you had to say.
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>>133081718
This. Fuck everyone who joined after 2007
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>>133080904
This debunking has been done from the perspective of some christian who got offended by the meme. Many of the stuff in here doesn't make sense. For example there is mention of "being respected for giving your life for the homeland" while the concept of nationalism was invented in the 19th century. Before that, people fought just because the life of the soldier was deemed as brave, romantic, courageous or they were just straight out interested in receiving loot. They didn't give a fuck about "giving their lives to stop muslim invasion" or "protecting their country".

>most christians converted peacefully
this one is not true, just look at how the baltic tribes were converted into christianity

>converting saxons
nobody was "converting saxons", they converted by themselves because they wanted to claim their kingdoms as "successors of Rome"

this entire image is just BS, I really don't want to spend more time to it
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>>133080241
But none of this is an accurate description of me. Nor is it an accurate description of our desired outcome of all of this. You would have known that if you'd spent more time lurking.
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>>133081718
Reminder that /leftypol/ is pro-pedophilia and pretends to be intellectuals but are mostly college dropouts working minimum wage
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>>133081865
>This debunking has been done from the perspective of some christian who got offended by the meme.
Wrong. Atheist.
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>>133081925
You're an ancap, why the fuck do you care about degeneracy? As long as it makes a profit, eh?
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>>133080241
Anyone who's spent more than 5 minutes on leftypol can see through your disguise

GTFO LARPer
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>>133080241
I mean yes that's the plan. But your reasoning is very flawed. We only leave the nest when we're ready. Part of the plan is to eventually leave /pol/ yes. But that's because this place is a honeypot and depression factory that will keep you down in the long run.

Lets see here, I'm sure many /pol/acks will be able to resonate with this.

>before /pol/
Kiss less virgin
jobless
going to good goy school (((college)))
playing vidya every day
watching anime every day
supporting the capitalist jew

>during /pol/
Crippling depression.
Anxiety
Fear of public spaces
surge of political interest and dialogue


>after pol
/fit/
crushing the pussy
working to obtain shekels to crush more pussy
sniffing that sweet, sweet, aroma of fresh organic home-grown peanuts for best protein gains...
Watching only redpilled anime
Enlisting for the shekels and dying for Israel so your children can do the same but have a comfy upbringing.

/pol/ isn't about the solution. /pol/ is about the journey. But you fucking newfags are shitting up this board and NEED TO FUCKING KILLYOURSELVES RIGHT NOWWWWWW REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>133080241
Wow, you're a faggot.
>Ben Carson has more in common with rich whites than average blacks
Yes, because he has an IQ far above the average for his race. He grew up in a ghetto too, like most niggers.
>before Marx things there were no safety regulations
KYS and study some history (outside of a university). Marx was by no means the first person to argue for better working conditions, just the most cancerous because of all the stupid bullshit he brought along with him.
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Doing gods work, CNN. Now we can efficiently weed out all of the hyper emotional morons that will end up believing this horseshit. 8/10 decent bait but next time, let's not make it so obvious?
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OP is basically speaking the truth, but he is doing so with his red colored glasses in a sense. There are two kinds of people on /pol/, the usual run-of-the-mill 4channers with their retardation and autism, and then there are normal people who come here because it's the only place that shares their hate for globalism. This second group of people, although far smaller, is at the core of the current principles /pol/ has at the moment, only bothering to make a post if it qualifies to a discussion, instead of your generic thoughtless rapidfire repetitive post that usually comes from the former autistic group.

Being fucking real, it's almost like you cunts are in a usual forum with usernames and profiles and fishing for post counts. Interesting thing to note is that most of the anons spewing the thoughtlessly extreme points of view are americans. That probably comes from their taking of this place as granted. They hate on forum cultures present in neogaf and whatever while cultivating the exact same thing here.

This still doesn't change the fact that OP is obviously a spineless cuck. "Social democrat" my ass.
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>>133081997
Private armies will wipe you out.
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>>133081925
I mean some of these are true. Being a pedo is a fucking mental issue and if you act on it it's a crime.
The disgusting people are the ones who say it's fucking normal.
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WTF i love retards like op now
Btw i love how suddenly all retards in most threads today have the yuro flag,it's. .almost as if it was a common effort.
Kill yourself double faggot nigger
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>>133081718
this guy says it

>>133081708
I am a shill because I am not into far-right views? Whatever.

>>133081633
Less than you, at least they are autists who actually read books.

>>133081536
You don't seem to really know what socialism really is. Socialism is democratic management of the workplace, when means of production belong to the workers. Socialism is not "big government" or "welfare state". In fact, it's thanks to Marx there is concepts like minimum wage, 40 hour work week, universal health care, work safety laws and many other worker-based reforms.

You confuse Marx and Stalin. For example, Marx never even said what the perfect implementation of his ideas in the end looks like.

Your free market capitalism is a fucking scam. Oligarchy ruling the world only creates more inequality in the world and makes poor people poorer, rich richer. Nobody wants to go back to the fucking feudalism anymore, except when you are a fat, piece of shit capitalist yourself.
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>>133082168
Name one successful free market society
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>>133080241
It's all about the white race dude. Everything else is just young people picking up bits of things trying to make an identity. That's ok. It takes time. But the need to watch out for and do something for the white race persists, whether you come to /pol/ or listen to podcasts or not.
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>>133082035
Plus Marx didn't do shit about working conditions. All he did was use autism to find unrelated patterns in history and study capitalism.

Once again Marxists haven't even studied their god.
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I like how you gave up after two posts in and just started spamming shill images, OP.
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>>133080308
what is this shitty CIA shill posting
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>>133082262
>Less than you, at least they are autists who actually read books.
I read their books and they are garbage, full of holes at every step. No wonder all socialist countries fail.

>Marx never even said what the perfect implementation of his ideas in the end looks like.
What is the manifesto? Oh wait, that doesn't count because it failed.

>>133082266
Any country in the top 10 of quality of life.
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>>133081951
christian cannot be impartial to debunk history related to christianity

>>133081925
your image is not related to /leftypol/ and no, few articles are not proof that left wing is pro-pedophilia. There are more examples to prove that christianity is pro-pedophilia than anything.

>>133081879
then you are not a far-righter I guess

>>133082023
these are some sad lies you are telling yourself here. If /pol/ made you really successful, you wouldn't even have time for /pol/. Even to assume all you speak is true, people like you are not main body of this place, which is a bunch of miserable, sad folks.
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>>133080241
Kike Kike Kike Kike
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>>133080318
>one outlier niggers proves the trend
Kill yourself with this retarded as fuck logic.

>but if you are ethnically homogenous there's no way you could be rich and innovative

Wrong. See South Korea and Japan. Hell see fucking Finland which ranked at the top of innovation rankings.
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>>133082482
It was an atheist that actually read a history book, not a Christian.

>your image is not related to /leftypol/
I've been there many times. It's overwhelmingly pro-pedophilia.
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>>133080241
>>133080308

lol you come here once a month tp tell us this? piss off shill
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Fucking hell the cringe in this thread.
Since you're the intellectual of this website I'll tell you in an intelligent manner
A=you b=us c=like t=time
(((A)))2t+b=-c
-c+(((A)))=gtfo
Nobody wants to hear some 1yo whining about the infrastructure of pol, either get the fuck out and go get dull approval on Facebook or try to make something out of your fucking self in this website. "You're wrong because someone disagreed with me and blablabla" isn't sticking argument to begin with, posting some random images that reaffirm your point of view and make you feel comfortable won't cause anyone to think "oh, this guy has a point" it's fucking retarded.
"Oh look, I figured out you guys just use insults to end discussions and make me feel bad, I'll use it against you. Huh, how do you like it cuck? Feel btfo yet faggot?" God Jesus Christ what kind of education did you get.
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>I'm different even though I come here
>But you are all bad because you come here!


OP is a faggot
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>>133082447
>ywn be a paid CIA shitposter
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>>133082460
>Any country in the top 10 of quality of life
None of those are truly free market
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>>133080318
Damn, you are really dumb.
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>>133082578
He's not from here. He's a leftypol faggot LARPing as one of us
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>>133082266
Hong Kong, Singapore, Switzerland.

There isn't even a successful socialist country. Every first world country is capitalist.
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>>133082599
Oh really
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>>133080241
>>133080308
you wanna know how I know that you're a newfag?

You think that /pol/ is one person and that we all have the same thoughts. I for one don't give a shit for USA or any western country. I only worry about my own and neighbours.

Lurk more next time
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>i'm totally not a shill guys
>but here are my /leftypol/ memes

ok bud sounds totally legit thanks for sharing (sage)
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>>133080241
You have yet to suckle one red pill...
Truth is not you, your path is false...
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>>133082262
Is this guy for fucking real? I can't believe I even bothered to write two paragraphs in a second language to my own, which is extensively more tiring as opposed to simply write in my main language, to this fucking first semester paid by parents college undergrad equality-seeking defender of the poor OP.

Kill me.
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>>133080241
>>133080308
This is true. /pol/ has become damaged and deranged, in a bad way.
/pol/ pre-chimpout was good, but then after that happening and ebola chan, /pol/ became dark.
I thought we used to walk the path of light?
It might just be the Redditors or the major influx of tier 1 happenings like the election and Donald Trump's shenanigans against the media.
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>>133082262
>I am a shill because I am not into far-right views? Whatever.
I suppose what you're doing is more accurately described as astroturfing, but on /pol/ we tend to just call it shilling.
>I used to be one of you guys from 2016 until last month.
>Now I'm the exact opposite, you're all pathetic, and check out my berniebro buds podcast!
How fucking stupid do you assume someone would have to be to fall for such a pitch, I'm genuinely curious?
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>>133081865
>be like christian Rome
wouldnt it be easier to stick to action figures and fantasy if thats what drove the greeks and early romans?
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>>133080241
Everything you wrote about was true until you got to the commie shit. Nice try.

PS Rising levels of wealth are what caused "workplace regulations" to be possible. Not unions, not Marx, not Cesar Chavez, not minimum wage laws. That meme needs to fucking die.
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Well crafted troll get thread
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>>133080241
>>133080310
>not evern a fucking year on fucking 4chan itself
>writes two posts like it knows shit
>implying this site has not consumed over a decade of my life
for fucks sake newfag nigger cunt
Gas the kikes for real this time
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>>133082640
>Hong Kong
>Singapore
Highest inequality rates in the world
also not free market

>Switzerland
Not true free market

Honestly there should be an imperial/monarchist flag, I don't like using this one
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>>133082447
you really figured it out, I work for the CIA, dude. I'm scared now!!

>>133082460
>I read their books and they are garbage, full of holes at every step. No wonder all socialist countries fail.
This is an overstatement, many of the economists have been impressed by the benefits of left-wing reforms. Socialist countries fail because most socialist countries are state capitalist, where workers do not run the workplace, but it's a government dictatorship.

>What is the manifesto? Oh wait, that doesn't count because it failed.

just quoted from wikipedia
>It presents an analytical approach to the class struggle (historical and then-present) and the problems of capitalism and the capitalist mode of production, rather than a prediction of communism's potential future forms.

>Any country in the top 10 of quality of life.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings
Funny, the countries that pop up there are mostly center-left in their policies.
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>>133080954
>social democrat
Literally gas yourself. At least the libertarians and ancaps have a cogent ideology.
>chapped ass house
Wew, the lefty TRS knockoff who won't even debate them because they knock they'll get manhandled.
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>>133082917
>economists have been impressed by the benefits of left-wing reforms
Praises social programs paid by successful capitalist economy
>socialist countries fail because most socialist countries are state capitalist
Says socialist countries fail because they aren't really socialist... whereas the socialist countries that failed where all REALLY socialist... and the ones that didn't are "state socialist", i.e.: social programs paid by successful capitalist economy

You can't put two coherent ideas together.
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>>133082547
>overwhelmingly pro-pedophilia
Are you kidding me? How are they pro-pedophilia? I don't know what kind of /leftypol/ are you going over there.

>>133082914
this
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>>133080241
Thanks for the lecture, faggot. Go back to /mlp/ and play.
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>>133082262
You seem to have no concept of how an actual free market would work if your suggesting an Oligarchy would rule. How can an Oligarchy rule if there is nothing to rule over in the first place? A true free market enables only the very motivated and brightest to succeed. As humans beings, our natrual instinct is to gather more resources for ourselves and if these needs are not met, we will inevitably conjure up some way to meet these needs. Why wouldn't you want to tap into that primal function with the allure of currency (resources)? Great things can be achieved this way and most people, such as yourself, don't even understand.
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>>133082917
Explain how a bunch of low to average IQ workers are supposed to run a business with no oversight, vision, or investment capital, engineers, managers, executives, etc. If you can describe a successful business model based off of worker control of the "means of production" I swear I will become a retarded lefty.
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>>133082917
This guy is the impersonation of that high school kid that took the economy commie teacher's words for granted.
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>>133082914
Hk and Singapore have the freest economies on earth you stupid fuck and very low taxes. Then again you're a retarded nazbol whose ideology is literally a publicity stunt and makes no sense because marxism is in opposition to nationalism.

>switzerland isn't true free market

It ranks in the top 3 of economic freedom and has lower taxes than even the US. KYS.
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>>133082917
>Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Netherlands
Capitalist countries with insanely high employment rates (>70%), low corporate taxes and social programs for the minority of people not inserted in the market paid by the successful capitalist economy

>New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland
Capitalist through and through
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>>133080308
>Shilling this hard...
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>>133080241
>a huge fucking wall of projection
get the fuck out
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>>133082917
>Socialist countries fail because most socialist countries are state capitalist,
Because they quickly realize true socialism is unworkable utopian pipe-dream built on an emotional appeal to an a-priori objective good. They then have to scramble to form their naive, childish fantasy into something resembling a functioning country and end up with a rigidly-structured hierarchy, even more oppressive then the one they started with.
>where workers do not run the workplace, but it's a government dictatorship
Because as it turns out, knowing how to operate a steel lathe does not prepare someone for running a steel mill.
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>>133080710
in Africa they don't have glasses
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>>133083040
Any thread that discusses the topic has an overwhelming majority being pro-pedophilia.

I regularly post on /leftypol/ (and dissenting opinions get banned pretty quickly, proving that they are scared of debating)
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>>133083034
>Praises social programs paid by successful capitalist economy
that is like saying that you thank the shop for being able to buy milk, not the farmer who milked the cow

>Says socialist countries fail because they aren't really socialist... whereas the socialist countries that failed where all REALLY socialist... and the ones that didn't are "state socialist", i.e.: social programs paid by successful capitalist economy
This is not me, I am quoting Marx here, "socialism is when workers seize the means of production", but none of these countries that you call socialist are truly socialist by Marx's own words. Yes, I give them credit for trying to implement socialism, but they were incompetent. For example, USSR spent far too much on their fucking army and too little on giving bread to their own people.

>>133082941
You don't even have two braincells to rub together, stupid neo-nazi scum.
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>>133083183
None of those are true free markets however, as they still have regulations and taxes and so and so and, albeit very little

Also, I'm not nazbol
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>>133083295
That's insanely vague on purpose.

Here's more specific proposals by Marx, all carried out & ended up in failure.
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>>133080710
Yeah, they really don't strike me as a couple of scientists that have a bone to pick. Purely impartial data collection and analysis, I'm sure. Just like looking into why right-wingers just love hamburgers and fox-farms. Just looking for the facts.

Circled is the study this "article" (lol at a .org citation, btw) is talking about. Links to article archive and actual paper, for those who care:
http://archive.is/Tjd92
https://kar.kent.ac.uk/47547/1/Dhont&Hodson%202014%20CDPS%20cogn%20ability%20and%20prejudice.pdf
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>>133080308
>If you hear me right now, I ask you to PLEASE stop going to /pol/. This place is full of lies. You don't need anything that goes on in here. More "redpills" you consume, the longer you will be trapped here. Do you really want to be in this place forever? If you are genuinely interested in politics, my best suggestion is to support Jeremy Corbyn in UK, who seems to have really good ideas for a better world

OP is absolutely right. The best way to cure yourself from these poisonous "red pills" (which are nothing else but revamped nazi memes) is to support the progressive forces or just be a normal citizen if you not interested in politics. There's NO benefit in these so-called "red pills".
/pol destroys lives. Instead of manning up, finding a wife, getting a good job, mortgage and kids young people congregate here to post racist memes and glorify Hitler, to promote misogyny and support Trump, to larp as nazis and to discriminate against black people by calling them n-word. None of you would dare to do that in real life.
Too bad Hillary didn't win, she would have ordered NSA to identify all /pol racists and sent all your nazi asses to special mental asylums, to cure your deviant behavior.
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>>133081325
>types two paragraphs

Really makes you think
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>>133083295
The people receiving the social programs aren't milking the cow. It's the 70% inserted in the market that's milking the cow, and producing so much milk thanks to the efficiency of capitalism, that they can spare feeding the other 30%. Unlike socialist countries where famines are recurrent.
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>>133080241
That's awesome anon :)
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>>133083299
Free market economy means low taxes and low regulations. Those countries have free market economies. Nobody actually defines it as literally zero regulations except ancaps.
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>>133080241
so wait, this was the grand result of all the datamining and "red pill me on X" threads? Shit, you shills suck at your job lol
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>>133080241
>>133083126
I'm waiting faggot.
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>>133080241
>been here for less than a year
>"I know everything about /pol/"

Kill your self.
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>>133080241
>It's a long-winded post making sweeping generalizations that eventually leads into commie propaganda
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>>133083295
>You don't even have two braincells to rub together, stupid neo-nazi scum.
And yet here you are extolling the virtues of an anti-capitalist system that collapsed as soon as the capitalists stopped bankrolling it. The world workers revolution is finally going to happen, and institute real socialism this time, any day now. Right comrade?
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>>133083525
They don't even teach the basics of administration in sociology.
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>>133083448
The man I was arguing against was an ancap.

Even then, those countries are shit except for switzerland, which is a pathetic country in that it's merely used as a tax haven
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>>133080241
>Truth is that before Marx and his ideas came along, people worked long hours in the factories with no working safety regulations or defined working hours.
I'm not a nazi or anything else bit I'd just point out that fair working hours, paid holidays and even a toilet, were all done by the German nazi party, and certainly not part of any Marxist or other Bolshevik manifesto

If you want to thank someone for those things the average worker has the right to, you'll have to thank hitler

... aaaand while you check and see what I say is true, look into animal rights and health issues. Communists only take rights away, even the right to complain. They kill people for the slightest infraction.

Marx and pals with their lazy pseudo intellectual garbage have killed fucking millions across the world. 200 million in China, 60 million Christians killed by Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia and a third of the whole country of Cambodia are just a few examples.
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>>133081718
Unironically correct in every way.

t. Angry /gif/ dweller who just wants to fap and watch rekt webms without pages upon pages of unrelated political shit
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>>133081718
Fucking truth. Trumpfags have to go.
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>>133080826
Im glad you found your way back after being corrupted here. Is nice of you trying to save others. Topkek and fuck off shill.
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>>133083543
it's really not that hard to figure it out
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>>133081925
/leftypol/ might be low tier but at least they're not newfag cancer like Trumpfags. I'd take Ron Paul spam and leftpol shit any day over these cringy reddit frog memes.
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>>133080308
>>133080241

The World is bright if you assume having a
million dollar mortgage, a broken family arguing every second day and playing the game of (((keeping up with the Jones))) is fulfilling.

Anyone with half a brain would not play such a fucked up game.

As Billy Joel in Piano Man goes
>Yes, they're sharing a drink they call loneliness
>But it's better than drinkin' alone

The normies are just as fucked but use (((normality))) to hide it.
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>>133083588
HK and SG have some of the highest hdi in the world, you're an idiot. All you have is meme arguments such as wealth inequality.
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>>133083730
>i'd rather have cancer than aids
ok
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>>133081718
this
trumpfags must go or this place is done
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>>133083775
Cancer can be treated. AIDS is fatal and it's the disease of fags.
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>>133083773
there are reports of 16 yrolds working 12 hour shifts in HK you cuck
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>>133083392
Belief in free market, free speech and free association is correlated with higher IQ

welp, there goes /leftypol/'s delusion
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>>133083860
Also, you know what's another example of deregulated capitalism? China

LOL
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>>133083525
it doesn't work. Some restaurant in Michigan tried running a "Marxist" restaurant. The hours were entirely dependent on when people were willing to work and the service was about an hour to get basic stuff.
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>>133083122
True free market has no restriction for cartels and monopols to emerge. In my opinion, in a capitalist society, only the government can intervene and stop the oligarchy forming. At one point, government becomes unnecessary though, and we can have the world of anarchist communes, each run by the workers themselves.

>>133083126
Because society is not equal yet. When basic income is established and more people can have access to education and really focus on it without problems caused by the financial situation of the kid's parents, then in a really equal society, almost everyone has enough education to reach a standard where they can be qualified to participate in running the workplace.

Right now, I agree, it's not a good idea to let dumb people to participate in the leadership, because they lack the skills and ability to do so, but if we focus on making the society more equal, the workers owning means of production and democratic workplace running is achievable.

>>133083127
Read my posts and reply again.

>>133083199
These countries also stuff like universal health care, big public sector government programs and all that other stuff you conveniently don't mention. Many of these countries are successful precisely because they don't have to worry that they don't get access to healthcare when they quit the job to look for another one.

>>133083216
you really got me there, bro, Soros just transfered me like 666 dollars, how did you know ???

>>133083234
nazi snowflake triggered already?

>>133083246
says the guy who has the word "socialist" in his preferred pronoun of an ideology

>>133083288
>and dissenting opinions get banned pretty quickly, proving that they are scared of debating
infinitychan has tighter moderation overall, their /pol/ also bans you for left-wing views.
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>>133083860
There's nothing wrong with that. Better to have work experience than be a useless trust fund baby who's never worked a real job in their life.
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>>133083846
AIDS is also, hilariously enough, an infection that 10-20% of white people have some degree of innate resistance to.
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>>133083775
both are treatable if caught early, the time for action is now or /pol/ will be overrun and destroyed by them
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>>133080241
>you do this, you think that, you say this
Nice stawman, who are you talking about, plebbit?
Either you fell for the opposition meme or you are the opposition trying to meme.
Clearly, you're a leaf behind that flag.
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>>133083911
>deregulated capitalism? China
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>>133083941
>says the guy who has the word "socialist" in his preferred pronoun of an ideology
German socialism nigger. If the USSR wasn't real socialism then why was it in the country's name? Same with the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
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>>133083941
>These countries also stuff like universal health care, big public sector government programs and all that other stuff you conveniently don't mention. Many of these countries are successful precisely because they don't have to worry that they don't get access to healthcare when they quit the job to look for another one.
Healthcare IS a social program ffs
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>>133083941
m8 you're arguing with way too many people

Just abandon your thread lol
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>>133083860
>rich as fuck
>extremely high hdi
>one of the longest life expectancies in the world
>one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world

Good. Working hard clearly has its benefits. I bet Venezuelans would fucking give an arm and a leg to live in Hong Kong. Off yourself dumb leftist scum.
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>>133083846
don't be retarded, nobody dies from aids since the 90s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_HIV/AIDS
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>>133083947
>nothing wrong with 16 yrolds working half the day

I hope someday, you have kids who have to work until they break they're back, then tell them it's good for them

>>133083997
>the country where they have suicide nets around the windows of factories is a success

>>133084067
American has a fuck huge economy, look at where it is, lol
Also, I'm not one to say the USSR wasn't a real socialist state; it was, and it's a massive success considering what it was before 1917
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>>133084093
But /pol/ is dying of the AIDS caused by Trumpfags with their diseased faggotry. There doesn't seem to be any cure. They're immune to treatment and medicine. They just continue to spread AIDS.
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>>133080241
>he hasn't realized that /pol/ is satire
Desu
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>>133083941
>Read my posts and reply again.
You know, reading that made me actually question myself: was I being too brash?

But then my eye focus shifted just slightly upwards and the first thing I saw was this

>Because society is not equal yet. When basic income is established and more people can have access to education and really focus on it without problems caused by the financial situation of the kid's parents, then in a really equal society, almost everyone has enough education to reach a standard where they can be qualified to participate in running the workplace.

I don't understand how people have the heart to continue discussing with you even after you spew shit like that. I'd never be able to do it, but I guess that also proves your statements regarding /pol/ completely wrong since these poor bastards here in this thread are completely willing to have a go with you of all people in the argumentative field.
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>>133080241
>I used to be one of you guys from 2016 until last month
>>133080308
>I don't go to /pol/ anymore, but once in a month I do just to check out what is going on with this movement,
What did he mean by this /pol/?
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>>133084180
>/pol/ is dying
/pol/ has been dying for years, enough of your nihilist bullshit.
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>>133080241
I like you.
I think Marx was a pretty cool guy.
But talking sense into /pol isn't going to go anywhere.
It's like Schrödinger's cat named Poe's Law, where it's difficult to say if people are taking anything seriously or just being brutal for the sheer fun of free speech or a mix of the two.
If you feel like people are dragging you down, go in peace, friend.
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>>133084273
Yes everyone here spams facts for the fun of it.
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>>133083411
I sure hope you are larping


>to special mental asylums, to cure your deviant behaviour.


Correcting deviant behaviour. Is exactly what /pol is trying to oppose. You can change that demfag into a communist one because you just killed individuality
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>>133084266
>ausflag
More AIDS.
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>>133084340
Brain dead Liberals do not think they only feel.
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>>133083411
I don't know if you are being sarcastic, but you make a fair point.

>>133083366
Do you know that many of these are being carried out in most of europe as we speak? Correlating Marx's ideas with USSR alone and saying that is why they collapsed is proof of nothing. USSR managed to do some magnificent industrialization of their country but ultimately failed because they got greedy and aggressive with their ambitions and didn't want to go for mixed economy model at first. Marx even said you cannot build communism out of agrarian society (tzarist russia), there must be capitalism first.

>>133083443
except that when the economy improves, the profits of more efficiency never go towards increasing the payments of workers, more likely they go towards increasing the capital

>>133083590
if nazis are so much pro-working class, then why were they so obsessed with capitalism and collaborating with the big banks?
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>>133084389
Take off your flag shit cunt.
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>>133080308
Corbyn is a straight up anti semite. Just like all the nazis you claim to hate. Lost me there goy.
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>>133080308
>Jeremy Corbyn
he's a huge virtue signaler and a fucking globalist

>Sargon introduced me to him
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>>133084273
>It's like Schrödinger's cat named Poe's Law
No wonder you're a commie cunt. You're fucking retarded.
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>>133080241
Marx was entitled leech. You faggots just follow his example.
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>>133084425
>ausflag
Kys
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>>133084171
Arguing with unironic socialists is useless. Know you are dumb as fuck and even studies disagree with your points.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/shleifer/files/normal_countries_draft_sept_12_annotated.pdf
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>>133084483
Cry me a river
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>>133080241
>long rant turns into a shill for marxism

every time
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>>133080241
your cocksucking flag of choice invalidates any opinion
EU DELENDA EST
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>>133084396
They act like all the proof of everything said here is literally is some kind of big Nazi lie. Maybe that is just how the shitskins cope with it.
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>>133080241
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>>133084541
Strange, isn't it?
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>>133084505
Get raped by abos and immigrants.
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>>133084227
You didn't make a single argument, you just think that you are in the cool kids club, while anything /pol/-related in real life ends up in a disaster. And no, I don't buy it for a minute that you guys are just going to settle for traditional conservatism, that would be "too cucked", right?

>>133084059
Social program that should be available for every tax payer.

>>133084035
Just saying that you, of all people, should be more careful before you trash socialism. Difference though is that the socialism I support is democratic, while yours is based on scientific racism.

>>133084064
Many responses coming through

>>133084100
You really got me there, toothpaste
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>>133084423
Tell me when you're ready to stop
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>>133084725
Holy shit nigger you are autistic.
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>>133084445
>anti semite
I didn't know that being pro-palestine is anti-semitism

>>133084541
>using a /leftypol/ while talking trash about marxism
you are right, marx was completely wrong and slave society is preferrable to socialism
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>>133084796
>>133084795
>"I am out of arguments! I am just gonna call him names and get on with my day!"
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>>133084725
>You didn't make a single argument, you just think that you are in the cool kids club, while anything /pol/-related in real life ends up in a disaster. And no, I don't buy it for a minute that you guys are just going to settle for traditional conservatism, that would be "too cucked", right?

Is this what they mean by winning without lifting your arm?
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>>133084725
>Just saying that you, of all people, should be more careful before you trash socialism.
Nah, I'm perfectly happy trashing literal garbage.
>Difference though is that the socialism I support is democratic,
Which is part of the reason why its garbage.
>while yours is based on scientific racism.
The proper term is biology.
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>>133084831
>he thinks stirner is /leftypol/
sounds like someone hasn't properly digested stirner
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>>133084725
Now tell me: what are you intending to accomplish with this thread? Do you realize that some of us are former marxists/SJWs, right? Tryin' to revert us back to your cult?
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>>133080308
>I am not a shill

Is that why you are citing Marx?

The fact that it is so easy to repudiate you proves this board has some value and real world function.
1. Many people here have real world lives and pretty good ones. I am an example. I have a high paying job and a big social life. I come here for what amounts to *streaming news* since can't find real news anywhere anymore. This place is the closest thing to real news as you can get now.

2. To shit post and make jokes. This place has a great function in the world of being a relief valve, one of an ever dwindling number of relief valves, for the frustrations of the vox populi. Without it and places like it we would have already had a civil war or worse we would be like Germany is.

There are people who live their entire identity out of here and have no life outside of this and I agree with you when it comes to them. But this is not the fucking majority.

Furthermore what you are describing is the same for ANY extremist far left or right of religious extreme. Any extremist who lives in the land of idpol will generally be a sad fucking person because that is the entire point of idpol. To turn politics into one's identity is to become a pawn or a slave to what amounts to a botnet for your brain.
This applies to many internet populations besides merely pol Tumblr is a great example then there is places like deviant art.

The fact that you totally miss all of this and focus in on this place specifically shows the intellectual dishonesty here. And that is how I know you are either a shill or more likely you are just this fucking stupid.

And since by your own admission you were one of these people who lived their fucking life here I am gonna go with you are a fucking dumbass who has converted to Libshit social justice instead and now you feel like part of the majority. So you have positive re enforcement and you think you are making progress but in fact you are fucking retarded.
tldr Fuck off
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>>133082262
Ahahahaha, look at this faggot 'I am social democrat' Berniebro cocksucker, dropping his facade of a democrat, foaming at the mouth as he screams 'That wasn't real socialism'

I love how you swines cannot even keep the facade for few minutes. I am sure that couple posts down you will be calling working class uneducated, suburban and rural retards.

No wonder no socialist ever is a part of working party, you would get beaten to the death before the first shift was over.
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>>133080241
i was with you there until the commie part

do the world a favor and off yourself, my friend; you're part of the problem
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>>133082163
It's not truth if it's fucking biased

Why does he apply this argument only to pol and not to places like lefty pol r politics or various Tumblr communities?

Because he is a fucking moron. There are so many giant fucking internet communities full of idpol sheeple but yet THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY is the only bad one. Right.

Next you will tell me the sky is orange and Donald trump is a black man.

Getting really fucking sick of dishonest marxist trash. I see it everyday in real life and that is bad enough now it's leaking out of containment further and coming here.

If you believe that Marx was right and his ideas were not complete totalitarian cancer you are a detriment to the human race. Pol is not ruining lives rampant out of control identity politics is and on a global scale. A partially Marxist idea in point of fact you dirty fucking red.

Op is a garbage human.
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>>133080308
I come here for the lulz, because i prefer shitposting about happenings over idiotic virtue signalling on social media.
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>taking ironic shitposting /pol/ as seriously as the rest of it then being surprised to learn that people of other colors can be nice too and then deciding /pol/ is wrong about everything, but actually no op was a shill all along: the thread
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>>133084831
>slave society is preferable to socialism

Yes, it is. I will rather get whipped everyday than have any of you incompetent, useless swines anywhere near power again.
Oh, and if by 'slavery' you mean this system, this 'slavery' keeps me and my family fed, unlike your fucking socialism.

Fucking hell, to cut your throat and listen to you gurgle away, I wouldn't bat an eye.
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>>133085642
>being surprised to learn that people of other colors can be nice too
What about the other 99% that aren't nice? I know people like keeping their pets but come on.
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>>133085011
/pol/ holds many people trapped in hostile right-wing views that never let them admit to themselves that they need to look at their own lives and work with themselves. I want to say those people that /pol/ is full of lies and it's not worth believing in such an hostile set of ideas. Hostile to yourself, hostile to others. We don't need another Dylan Roof.
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>>133083941
>>133084423
>>133084725

>Leftypol formatting

>"Trust me guise i was one of you!"
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>>133085413
That's interesting you replied that post of mine seeing as I read your recent post and thought you had the exact same frame of mind as I did writing it.

By my time of writing, the inner commie hadn't quite come out of him yet, and if you read my following post ( >>133082738 ), you'll also see that I caught on to what was going on soon after my original post.

As for my part on criticising /pol/, it has no hypocritical stance, honestly. This is the place I care about the most and come often, so I'd like to see it hold itself a tiny bit in a more compact manner in regards to post quality. I don't give a fuck about other websites, they are only useful as examples to me.

Even with this post of yours going down on me, I still agree with you here despite not looking like it for some reason.
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>>133085776
Exactly. We need another Breivik.
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>>133080785
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>>133085776
Sure thing mate, /Pol/ promotes radicalism and a hostile set of ideas, you can tell by the amount of right-wing attacks that have happened in the last decade. Also

>Implying Dylan did anything wrong
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>>133085776
>We don't need another Dylan Roof.
But another James T. Hodgkinson is perfectly fine, right?
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>>133085987
>Implying Dylan did anything wrong
He missed out on his bright future in the world of fashion.
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>>133081384
>makes a post about how Whites aren't keeping Blacks down
>also states in the exact same post that the Jews control everything and are keeping da Whyte man down

Gas yourself you hypocritical cuck.
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>>133083941
I dislike our healthcare. People will go to the fucking emergency room for having a cut.
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>>133086134
He is just stating a fact why are you such a ignorant nigger?
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>>133085141
>Ahahahaha, look at this faggot 'I am social democrat' Berniebro cocksucker, dropping his facade of a democrat, foaming at the mouth as he screams 'That wasn't real socialism'

The only future for the post-capitalism world is democratic socialism with a strong environmental agenda.
Nationalist movements are trying to bring back "the good old days", glorifying pre-WW1 Europe, 19th century USA of even Nazi Germany.
They don't realize that collapse of the current capitalist system is INEVITABLE. This current system that we have in unsustainable. One more economic crisis and it will crumble.

No, we can't revert to "le based pre-WW1 nationalism" anymore, for the same reason you can't recreate Roman Empire. Nationalism discredited itself by causing two world wars that devastated and almost destroyed Europe, people don't want this shit anymore. People want equal rights for all races, tolerance and less wealth inequality.
Democratic socialism is the only natural choice. Even if Bernie didn't win, it doesn't matter. A younger democratic socialist will win in 2020, because people will be sick and tired of Trump's """""great America""""".
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>>133085776
>look at their own lives and work with themselves.

I do. But there is always some socialist swine on the sidelines looking to take away from the fruits of my labor and to threaten the safety of my family.

>Hostile to yourself, hostile to others

There is nothing more hostile than a socialist swine. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that infantile slogan of yours 'Seize the means of production' not a 'Create the means of production'.
You gonna fucking lecture others about hostility?
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>>133080241
Your realization came too late. A high IQ individual should have seen through redpill easily. It's right wing propaganda disguised as truth. But you shouldn't just leave /pol/. Because this place would be boring without actual thinkers.
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>>133081865
>For example there is mention of "being respected for giving your life for the homeland" while the concept of nationalism was invented in the 19th century.
This is a troll
Your favourite spice goes in options
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>>133082163
I don't know why would you call me cuck for supporting something that would lift so many young people out from student loan debts and enable them to live a normal life without slaving away, flipping burgers just to pay back the loans.

>>133082035
Askhenazi jews and east asians have higher average IQ too. Don't use IQ to legitimate racism ever again pls.

>>133085642
Agreed

>>133085141
This is real edgy, I wish I was a cool right-wing kid like you and not a "cocksucker".
All jokes aside, I don't think you are aware that I support people like Corbyn far more than some "revolutionary marxist communist party" that never gets more than 1% of the votes.

>>133085495
This is a bad place for jokes, the jokes are all hostile and anti-social. There are better places on the internet for jokes. For fuck's sake, even the old /b/ was alright compared to what is now /pol/ and rest of 4chan become.

>>133085719
>"just 5 minutes more, mum, I need to show this pinko commie on the internet who's the boss"
Really tough behind the keyboard you are, gratz! Now channel that aggression and do something about yourself in the real life too.
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>>133086134
Niggers are retarded and Jews are perfidious. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp.
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>>133086293
t. anti-white roach poster
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>>133086351
Just let the shitskins get fucked even harder by Jews they will just keep blaming whitey.
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>>133080241
Whatever dude I enjoy my time here and discovering new things. Politics just generally makes people feel like crap anyway. What's new? I like to browse here for the bants & stories. It keeps me up to date and in the loop.
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>>133086326
you've really out done yourself with this bait
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>>133080241
Just lol
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>>133086326
go away Soros shill
drop the flag or drop the act
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>>133080241
Go ahead and be a normie. Just promise to have white kids and everything is forgiven.
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>>133086224
>One more economic crisis and it will crumble.

It will. But it sure as shit won't be upper class college educated socialist swines who will replace it.

>with a strong environmental agenda

Ahahahahaha, I am sure that China gives a shit about your tofu gobbling ass.

>People want equal rights for all races, tolerance and less wealth inequality.

Jesus the fucking delusions. First - if there is something that socialist swines give a less of a shit than a working class, it is a tolerance. I don't give a shit about your propaganda pampflets, I care about your actions.
Your infantile ideology cannot survive without demonizing some other side, so preach me a little about that tolerance of yours.
And as for equality Sweden already talks about segregating public events by gender.
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>>133085991
I never said I support people like this. Political violence proves nothing in today's day and age.

>>133085987
Most people are apolitical or centrist. Far-right people can be incredibly violent and abusive.

>>133086158
Then you try to improve the current system, because the american healthcare is even worse.

>>133086134
>>133086224
These guys get it

>>133086281
I am not a neoliberal SJW, I support demcratic socialism/social democracy. Neoliberals and SJW's tend to go for Hillary or Macron instead.

>>133086293
I agree, but why are you here if you "see through it" though?
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>>133080241
>dumb thread
>dumb op
Just popping in to refute this one bit since I'm sure everyone else has already torn your ass apart in the last 200 posts but:
>Most people here are sad and use politics as a way to distract them from real life

>politics
>distracting from real life
Jesus christ man. The happenings that shape our world might distract us from... the world? Get it together.
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>>133086725
I am here to have fun. I made a lot of good memories.
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>>133086725
Bro, I swear to god there are professional goers to the fucking hospital. Same people everytime.
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>>133085776
no, it means not interfering with others and having others not enjoy the fruits of one's labor
you must be a dependent household babby member not to have experienced the raw deal that an authoritarian state imparts on the individual and the hoops one must jump through in order to hedge against it
reminder that your puppet masters play by an entirely different set of rules and use your naive kind as useful idiots that you are
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>>133086224
>The only future for the post-capitalism world is democratic socialism with a strong environmental agenda.
Yes, the Africans, Indians, and Chinese will lead the world with their impeccable record of environmentalism.
>Nationalist movements are trying to bring back "the good old days", glorifying pre-WW1 Europe, 19th century USA of even Nazi Germany.
That's the idea yes.
>They don't realize that collapse of the current capitalist system is INEVITABLE. This current system that we have in unsustainable. One more economic crisis and it will crumble.
That's entirely possible. but when things collapse, the rubble doesn't magically form itself into your utopian pipe dream.
>No, we can't revert to "le based pre-WW1 nationalism" anymore, for the same reason you can't recreate Roman Empire.
Germanic tribes, who have little loyalty to a distant, degenerate empire who can barely hold itself together, migrating south to seek more fertile soil due to climactic instability?
>Nationalism discredited itself by causing two world wars that devastated and almost destroyed Europe, people don't want this shit anymore.
Unlike the Holodomor, Great leap Forward, Red Terror, and non-stop internecine revolutions of (not real) communism.
>People want equal rights for all races, tolerance and less wealth inequality.
Yes, the Congolese and Aboriginal Africans, with their long history of egalitarianism and lengthy lineage of humanistic philosophers, desire nothing more than 18th Century enlightenment ideals.
>Democratic socialism is the only natural choice.
As can be seen by its prevalence throughout all of human history.
>Even if Bernie didn't win, it doesn't matter.
Acceptance is the final stage of grief.
>A younger democratic socialist will win in 2020, because people will be sick and tired of Trump's """""great America""""".
Especially if the democrats who died 20 years ago have anything to say about it at the ballots.
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>>133080954
>Chapo trap house
Kys
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>>133086503
You are insane. Seek mental help.

>>133086599
I am not gonna show my real flag, I am from a small euro country and people have tried to dox me before if I show my flag.

>>133086650
I don't care about race, I just prefer to hang out and date people that are educated and talented. I ignore religious, hostile or dumb people no matter what race.

>>133086652
At least the left-wing is trying to build a better tomorrow. What do you propose, we revert back to feudalism but with machine guns this time?
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>>133086725
>Most people are apolitical or centrist. Far-right people can be incredibly violent and abusive.
Far-left dindu nuffin
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>>133086725
>I never said I support people like this. Political violence proves nothing in today's day and age.
And yet I don't see you seeking out dens of hostile left-wing views.
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>>133080318
Ok, great. Just because blacks are on average less academically intelligent than whites, it does not mean a black individual cannot be smarter than a white individual. He was an outliner.

By the same logic, East Asians are on average academically more intelligent than whites, yet it does not mean a white individual cannot be more intelligent than an East Asian.
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How did this shitty bait got 250 replies? Anons please.
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>>133087177
Did you actually just post that garbage?
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>>133080241
>euro flag

how am i suppose to take this seriously?
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>>133086326
>This is real edgy, I wish I was a cool right-wing kid like you and not a "cocksucker".

I know. Unfortunately you are a socialist, thus a cocksucker. And hearing about edgyness from someone who screech about 'seizing the means of production' without ever seeing the inside of a factory is hillarious. Just like Marx.

>I support people like Corbyn

That surprises literally no one in here

>do something about yourself in the real life too.

I do. I worked my whole life in aheavy industry, and after we got rid of socialism, we finally started to build home for ourself and my wife started a farm she wanted her whole life, hour after hour, brick after brick. Now I have to listen to another socialist swine wanting to take it away.
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>>133080318
>>133087177
Cleary this guy has never heard of Japan
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>>133087142
>left-wing is trying to build a better tomorrow
>socialist swine
>building anything, let alone better
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>>133086203
>The Jews are inferior to Whites!
>b-but the Jews also control everything!!

Do you not see how retarded you sound?
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>>133080405
Not an argument

>>133080438
/pol/ is very diverse. Not everyone here is a NatSoc or a fascist.

>>133080464
Not an argument.

>>133080514
Both the reasons and the morality of the Crusades is not something that can be summed up in a meme. But the original purpose of the crusades Christian selfdefense against Islam.

>>133080545
Not an argument.

>>133080607
Us vs them mentality. What /ourguys/ do is ok, but if the enemy does the same, it is not.

>>133080630
>>133080690
>>133080826
Not an argument.

>>133080773
>>133080734
As I said, /pol/ is very diverse. We have our morons.
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It doesn't get into my head why does the left in general hate white people so much. It's astounding.
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>>133087268
Disprove my argument.
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>>133087622
look up the academic term of 'whiteness' and what concepts it entails and it will start to make sense why would eternal losers hate it.
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>>133087431
Is it true Czechoslovakia was the largest country in the world?
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>>133086792
These are macro-scale events, these happenings. They do not affect your life on a micro level. North korea testing a nuke or EU sanctioning Poland has no effect on you, who badly need to trade the time used to browse /pol/ to browse job-seeking sites instead.

>>133086923
>no, it means not interfering with others and having others not enjoy the fruits of one's labor
and what if they commit fraud? what if they are being unethical? what if they refuse to raise wages for the workers when their profits increase? You say that "they can go other other company not like that" but when there is no regulation in the system to punish unethical companies, then every company would need to be unethical to stay in competition and eat out the ethical ones. Soon, many jobs become automatized anyway, so the company owner can increase profits even more at the expense of those "whiny workers".
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>>133087071
>Yes, the Africans, Indians, and Chinese will lead the world with their impeccable record of environmentalism.
Their eco-footprint is relatively small, and believe me, the west is working to raise consciousness about environmentalism in these regions.
>Germanic tribes, who have little loyalty to a distant, degenerate empire who can barely hold itself together, migrating south to seek more fertile soil due to climactic instability?
are you for real? there can be no small-scale tribalism in the same planet with highly militaristic empires
>Unlike the Holodomor, Great leap Forward, Red Terror, and non-stop internecine revolutions of (not real) communism.
Stalin's crimes were condemned even by the following soviet establishment. Stalin was a socialist in the same way how Sparta was a democracy.
>Yes, the Congolese and Aboriginal Africans, with their long history of egalitarianism and lengthy lineage of humanistic philosophers, desire nothing more than 18th Century enlightenment ideals.
Ah yes the germanic tribes, who ran around naked and ate psychodelic mushrooms at the time of great empires in the middle east like the assyrians, mesopotamians, egyptians, carthagians
>As can be seen by its prevalence throughout all of human history.
most of history has been slave societies, maybe it's only natural bro
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>>133087739
>there are women who are as tall as men
>therefore, both genders are the same size
You don't have one.
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>Karl Marx wasn't all that bad.
>support Jeremy Corbyn.
Kill yourself, those Bolshevik Jew rats have murdered more of my people than you could imagine and have caused mass human suffering and indignity to create a system that doesn't even work and is totally divorced from reality - the only good cure for the Marxist mind virus is a bullet to the head, I strongly suggest that you implement this as soon as possible.
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>>133087529
yeah, /pol/ is very diverse, but the nazis are the loudest. I don't see you guys promoting traditional conservatism or even traditional values more than you promote insane bullshit like race realism.
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>>133087840
>Soon, many jobs become automatized anyway, so the company owner can increase profits even more at the expense of those "whiny workers".
Oh, my sweet summer child. You think our oil-based civilization will last until complete automatization is viable.
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>>133087622
Because they're successful. Leftists are beings of ingrained collective mentality and inferiority complex, they believe all humans to be vermin incapable of anything great. They put faith in government and collective effort, but what escapes their view are successful people. Individuals. They prove humanity is great, it proves godly spark in an animal, which leftists don't want to see. Successful people prove you don't need government, you don't need collective to achieve. You need effort. They're scared of the effort, they're scared of achieving individually because this means they can fail, while others succeed. They simply cannot accept being worse than others, so they force everybody to be equal, so that nobody achieves more and is better than them.
White people built civilisation, they're epitome of individual success. A group of individuals, each working in his interests, creating greatness. They don't want to be reminded that if they took some effort they could achieve as well.
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>>133087840
good job on robbing people of agency, making them government slaves that are locked-in into a subordinate position without any chance of bettering themselves; this is called negative selection and is a staple among communist failures
reminder that ethics are not legislated and depend on the viewpoint of the person calling the shots
your central planning wet dreams put all of that into hands of reality-detached few instead of individuals that are many

disruptive technologies will disble your kind from making others' lives a living hell and that day can't come soon enough
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>>133087867
You're Moortuguese, puto. You blew your cover.
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>>133087840
>but when there is no regulation in the system to punish unethical companies, then every company would need to be unethical to stay in competition
you reinforce his point, seeing as how there is no regulation on the regulators
pic related is illinois because of your argument, when applied to statism
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>>133088106
Comunas Portugueses são a escória do mundo
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>36 post by this ID
i-i swear im not a shill !
also
>2016 - until last month
>one of you guys
lurk more faggot
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>>133087968
>another complain about things but want others to fix it post
I don't see you doing anything either. Fuck off.
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>>133088072
I said a thousand times already, I am not in support of stalinism. I support Corbyn-style socialism. This is precisely because I am in strong support of democratic values. I don't like authoritarian regimes no matter who they claim to be.
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>>133080241
Lost fight, OP.

Come join us spamming BBC all over the place.
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>>133087888
Yeah, that is exactly what I said. Black average at 85 in IQ points. Whites average at 100 in IQ points. A single black guy with an IQ of 110 is smarter than the average white guy. Where is the problem with this.

>>133087968
>uses nazis instead of natsoc
Yeah no, you're no /pol/ack, nor were you ever.. Tribalism (which is the conclusion one comes to after realizing that races are biologically different from one-another) is literally the most traditional value. It has been practiced since the dawn of humanity.

But you are right though. Last summer, every 2-3 days there would be an anti-degeneracy/self-development thread. Discussion has fallen apart since plebbits from the_donald came.

Also, if you want to have a real discussion, why spam strawman memes?
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>>133080241
>rather than calmly explaining himself, op instead decides to bait, forcing whatever value his words had to be lost
good job op. next you will tell me communism works.
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>>133080241
Nice larping faggot
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>>133088268
Are we going to talk about me or you now? I though we were talking about /pol/.

>>133088149
Why should taxpayers leave when they actually get something in return for higher taxes? This picture makes no sense. Taxpayers are often happy to pay higher tax when in return they get to live in a tight-knit society where they are taken care of.
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>>133088284
>socialism
same shit different wrapper; ask venezuelans how's their diet and general outlook on the future
welfare state must, and will die one way or the other
>I don't like authoritarian regimes no matter who they claim to be
are you schizophrenic? there can be no socialism in a setting bigger than a close-knit set of in-group members who know and voluntarily support each other
post your age please so I can determine whether I'm wasting my time here
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>>133088332
I never wanted to have a discussion, I came here to see how many people are sick and tired of /pol/ being an echochamber as it is.
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>>133088550
Your definition of socialism sounds closer to fascism to me. Look at Sweden and tell me again that socialist reforms always result in authoritarian society.
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>>133088648
it is authoritarian to demand of people the majority of fruits of their labor so it can be put into inefficient monopolistic systems that don't fulfill their mission nor offer any accountability, not to mention the appalling level of service quality and/or timeliness
age please
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>>133087867
>Ah yes the germanic tribes, who ran around naked and ate psychodelic mushrooms at the time of great empires in the middle east like the assyrians, mesopotamians, egyptians, carthagians
Oh my god, look at this idiot. The whole mushroom thingy refers to the Norse Berserkers, something which was (inaccurrately) observed in the fucking early middle ages, while the empries you speak of varied in history from 5000 BC to 200 BC. Also, the mushroom hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis. No one truly knows how the Berserkers entered their enraged state.

Germanics and Gauls were described by the Romans as unwashed barbarians, yet the Romans failed to mention how these guys invented soap, and how the Romans copied the Lorica Segmentata armour from them.

Also, the Germanic peoples proved that they could be civilized. Congolese and Aboriginal Africans have yet to do it properly.
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>>133080241
>>133080308

Thank you, I needed to hear this. While I disagree with some points you make, the main thing I've taken from this is, is that I spend too much time here, and not manifesting things in the real world.
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>>133088648
Try and say something that is defined as 'hate speech' in Sweden and come talk.
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>>133088784
also the cancerous voting block they form is the final nail in the coffin of liberties, after all why would education, pension, healthcare, public official, government and all other kinds of parasites vote against their interest?

democracy is a mistake, one that may very well cost us this civilisation that's already in decline
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>>133087809
>largest country in the world

I don't get your point? Czechoslovakia was third strongest world economy between WWI and WWII, because we were left with 70% of Austro-Hungaria industrial capacities. And even after WWII we were in a very good position, because we were almost untouched and at the important junction. Then of course socialist managed to fuck it all up, because clowns like OP were put in to run things.
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>>133087840
>Soon, many jobs become automatized anyway

Every single time socialist swines post more proof that they never saw an inside of a factory.
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>>133088784
it's only authoritarian if majority of people disagree with it and if there are no democratic mechanisms to validate the public support for the regime

>>133088816
if germans were enslaved and had all their resources exploited from them and this were to go on for 500 hundred years, coupled with an hostile climate and environment full of predatory animals, then I bet they were not doing any better than the congolese

>>133088842
I am glad you could relate. You're welcome!
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>>133089076
I already stated that your democracy forms a dictatorship of parasites who are the majority, therefore can't wait to see you parasites lose the host to feed off of

your subsequent attempts at violence will be met with deadly force
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>>133088902
If you are not a fucking bigot out in the public, nobody will punish you.

>>133089039
Ironically, I have worked in an actual factory and overheard the concerns of factory workers. Most of their complains were related to the shift bosses fucking over the factory workers, and shift bosses merely doing this because owners are greedy fucks, and the owners doing this to "stay competitive in the market".
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>>133087867
>Their eco-footprint is relatively small
The #1 and #3 highest c02 emitting countries?
>believe me, the west is working to raise consciousness about environmentalism in these regions.
And great strides have been made. China only plants to open 40 new coal plants.
>there can be no small-scale tribalism in the same planet with highly militaristic empires
Tell that to the Arcomanni, Alamanni, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Vandals, Gepids, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, lans, Burgundians, and Lombards.
>Stalin's crimes were condemned even by the following soviet establishment.
Well if they apologized, it all fine. Surely they won't commit them again.
>Stalin was a socialist in the same way how Sparta was a democracy.
Oh, so it just wasn't real socialism.
>Ah yes the germanic tribes, who ran around naked and ate psychodelic mushrooms
The difference is the Germans actually made it past the jungle monkey stage and formed a civilization. But please, tell me about the grand Congolese empires.
>at the time of great empires in the middle east like the assyrians, mesopotamians, egyptians, carthagians
Almost like Northern Europe was in a Cold Epoch at that time. Funny how you listed 2 breadbasket civilizations, a civilization ruled by legitimate r1b haplotype whites with blue eyes and red hair, and a fucking Phoenician colony. Where are the sub-saharan african ones?
>most of history has been slave societies, maybe it's only natural bro
Then you can hardly claim democratic socialism is "natural" when its a 19th century European concept.
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>>133089076
Then why did they get colonised in the first place. Where were their guns, where were their armies, where were their cannons, their roads, where was their military, economic and civilian infrastructure? The Celts and some Germanics were kept under the harsh Roman thumb for the better part of a millenium, yet their descendants formed powerful Kingdoms.
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>>133089199
>attempts at violence
I have never promoted violence and never will, I believe in peaceful debate and facts, but if the rabble-rousers and fascists want to come to left-wingers with violence, I won't shy away from the resistance.
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>>133088571
The whole world and mainstream media outside of this Mongolian basket-weaving forum is your echo chamber. The main key to the success of Communism and leftist ideology in general is the raising of weak and insecure idiots like you who desperately want to make a difference but are too impotent to think in terms other than material gain for themselves - it is the most emasculating and beta political thinking. Mankind will always long for hierarchy and a place to belong, you cannot stop this - even with your screeching of your pathetic, deracinating ideology.
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It's a pyramid scheme basically
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>>133089208
If I say blacks are on average more athletic than whites, no one will care. If I say whites are on average more intelligent than blacks, I will get arrested.

If I say Scandinavians are the scum of the Earth in public, no one will care. If I say the same about Arabs, I get arrested for 'hate speech'. Yeah, fuck off.
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>>133088501
>get something in return for higher taxes?
>work 240 hours a month to build something for myself
>socialist swine raise taxes
>only beneficiary of it is Tawanishquawbla and her eight crotch goblins
>now have to go to insanely expensive private clinics so that I won't get under the knife of some disinterest socialist medic
>now have to work 280 hours of breathing cancerous vapors to keep going the same way as before

Thanks socialist swine, you are already making my life better
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>>133084273
>Is a communist faggot with anime pic
>Claims it's pointless talking sense into people

Lefty faggots are the worst
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>>133088332
>Where is the problem with this.
My bad, I completely misread where you were coming from.
>Yeah no, you're no /pol/ack, nor were you ever.
Goebbels didn't seem to mind.

>>133088942
>I don't get your point?
I was wondering because the Red Army said they were leaving in 1945 and it took them 46 years to finally make it out.
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>>133082262
>Oligarchy ruling the world only creates more inequality in the world and makes poor people poorer, rich richer.

Socialism makes everyone but the revolutionaries-turned-new-elite, much much poorer.
For someone believing in historical materialism, you're incredibly intellectually inept when it comes to history of socialism. And yeah, I know, pointless to argue since you can just strawman all day long as you people always do.

More importantly though, people are not equal. People will never be equal. The idea that people should be equal or are capable of being equal is retarded. Almost as retarded as the idea that the best should get down on the level of the worst and the dumbest in order for society to finally function "properly".
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>>133088571
But senpai, what echochamber have you been to instead?

The way I see it, pol is really just a place with free speech and no political correctness. In other words, people actually get do discuss all topics, tabu or not. Unlike what can be seen in "reality".

In a sense, pol is ofc also its own ehcochamber. People naturally seek confirmation. Literally a field of study in and of itself. While the confirmation-bias plays its role, another big factor is just truth itself. Truth will out and people who find it tend to stick to it. Especially since it's rock solid and defendable, so it tends to win arguments as well. Seeing a majority of christians and natsoc may just be the truth.Which is why people stick with it, maybe.
Have you thought about that?
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Back to leftypol.
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>>133088571
Then perhaps you should piss off back to the Guardian. That is, if your wonder boy Owen Jones won't ban you and report to authorities for some kind of wrong think
Or perhaps back to leftypol, where you will get banned for literally everything, while you post memes with state capitalists on them.
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>>133089573
Didn't say the word 'nazi' was an insult, just that you can tell /pol/acks use natsoc instead to distinguish from the left and normal people who throw the word nazi around whenever they encounter anyone who is a tiny further right than an average cuckservative, including Libertarians and AnCaps.
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>>133089573
>to finally make it out.

Kek. No anon, that was just socialist planning in the action. 46 years is an average time it takes a commie to accomplish anything.
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>>133080241
>>133080308
This is even shittier than when CTR first began their shilling.

Step it up, you fucking cuck.
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>>133089744
Alright, just wanted to clarify.
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>>133089332
They had no access to trade routes that germans had, because Europe has lots of sea access compared to Africa, which only has sea access in the areas surrounding Nile.

By the way, there has been a very impressive empire in the western africa, and it was neither arabs or europeans who were propping it up, but africans themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire

>>133089233
>The #1 and #3 highest c02 emitting countries?
>And great strides have been made. China only plants to open 40 new coal plants.
China is merely beginning industrialization, they cannot do much damage when they soon have to conform to new forms of technology anyway.
>Tell that to the Arcomanni, Alamanni, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Vandals, Gepids, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, lans, Burgundians, and Lombards.
Are you telling me that the co-operative effort of many small tribes can bring down a large empire? I always knew the international union of anarcho-primitivist communes can bring some results.
>Well if they apologized, it all fine. Surely they won't commit them again.
Why should they? Even most russians despise Stalins.
>Oh, so it just wasn't real socialism.
I can play this game too and tell you that Hitler was a nationalist, and all nationalists are literally Hitler.
>civilization ruled by legitimate r1b haplotype whites with blue eyes and red hair
Is that your high-esteemed alt-right education or just something you learned from your local redneck "philosophers"?
>Then you can hardly claim democratic socialism is "natural" when its a 19th century European concept.
I never said it was natural. Capitalism is not natural either, it ascended from feudalism. It's just that society needs a new form of organizing when they reach a certain point of development. We can't have feudalism with machine guns and expect that this will be how we get a man on the Mars.
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>>133089929
To be fair, when you guys asked the Soviets for help in 1939, it only took them 29 years to send it.
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>>133089208
>I have worked in an actual factory

Ah, the magical working socialist that exist only ever at the internet, never in real world.
I have worked with a shitload of nazis, never a socialist. Probably because the socialists are not working class.
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>>133089333
>fascists
is that someone you don't like? someone not marxist? please define
I implied that parasites losing access to bloodsuckery by killing their host (=economy) either through a slow decline or driving it away to non-communist dictatorship legislations

people who hold liberty as the highers value are never the aggressor, however we tend to be well-versed in use of our beloved firearms
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>>133089355
>"It's not me in the zoo cage that is trapped, it's the world outside my cage that is trapped, I'm actually free!"

>>133089490
Crazy hyperboles you got there, living in a country where you have a universal healthcare yourself.

>>133089701
/pol/ is echochamber in the sense that you don't need to know anything about a topic to comment on it, making stupid people with loud voices more prominent than in a well-moderated community.

>>133089720
Sick argument bro, I love fascism now

>>133089729
I don't like /leftypol/ much besides casually lurking, too much tankies. They don't like my demsoc/socdem views.

>>133089930
I don't even support Clinton, Macron or the other neoliberals, why would I be CTR, retard?
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>>133090138
That was a rapid response team.
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>>133080904

*tips*

>This happened
>False. Only twice.

>This happened
>False. It needed to happen.
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>>133089972
Then why not create their own fucking trade routes. In comparison to Africa, Northern Europe is/was a fucking wasteland, cold, barren, and populated by those oh so terrible pale racists. Yet without any significant access to trade routes, Norsemen discovered the Americas. Their naval technology was second to none.

The Mali empire was successful, but you can't fucking re-emulate that success while blaming whitey on everything. And after everything, the Mali empire was still not as successful the best of European empires.
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>>133090148
>exist on the internet
No, I am a real life person. Why would I lie to you on an anonymous board?

>>133090162
If their definition of liberty is "freedom from zionist-occupied government" they yes, I don't like that kind of people, precisely because the only ZOG that exists in the entire world is Israel.
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>>133080241
>>133080308
Social programs aren't inherently socialist and Workers unions existed long before marx you idiot.
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>>133090421
you're a Slovene, aren't you?
what do kikes have to do with personal liberties and property rights?
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>>133090307
>have a universal healthcare yourself.

Yes and it is failing you stupid dipshit. Even though they cut off 20% of my paycheck for it, I am now once again in a position, where I don't pick up the pills, because the added co-payment is too expensive.
I was curing pig-flu with fucking lemon tea because of our glorious universal healthcare. It almost killed me.
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>>133090418
Because they had sea access to begin with. Europeans didn't invent their own trade routes to trade with China and get to use gunpowder and paper, they traded with persians/arabs who already established the Silk Road.

Mali empire was rich because they struck up a trade route. Basically, they traded gold to europeans. There weren't many empires like this because many regions of africa are landlocked and cannot establish any contact with the big empires northward.
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>>133090599
This is unfortunate, but without universal healthcare, you would be much worse off. Even if you individually weren't, your poorer family members were.

>>133090554
I am from eastern europe but not a slovene.
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>>133090608
Those landlocked empires could have established contact with Euros by dominating their environment and shaping it do fit their purposes and needs. You know, just like Euros did. Yet they did not. To this day, African refuse to learn from Euros. Watch the documentary "Empires of Dust".
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>>133080308
This is the worst calibre shilling I've ever seen. You can't claim to be redpilled and then say "vote for Corbyn!" You can't say you're not a cultural marxist while supporting left-wing politicians.

How fucking embarassing! You need to step up your game because all you are doing is exposing your tactics and viewpoints for all to see. So even newfags learn what a shill is within a week!

You've lost so badly I actually feel sorry for you. What a shit job you have. I hope your bos sees this and fires you for being so shit.
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>>133090307
You're right (regarding echochamber), but the same is true for every other circumstance. At a bar, someone is discussing whatever topic - you dont need to know anything to join that discussion. Here it may well be the literal loud voices that win.

A well moderated community may look more organized, but it may just well be a much much worse echochamber. Who's moerating? And how? Start calling stuff hatespeech and you have a free pass to start removing opinions you dont like. Its the confirmation bias at work again.

In this regard, pol (and 4chan generally, actually) is very good. People are not afraid (and not hindered either) in saying their opinions.

Whether they listen, however, that is another problem altogether. One that should be sorted out at childhood.

But regardless, it seems to me you're trying to disprove pol on the basis of it being an echochamber. But you dont take the alternatives into account? Or consider that maybe pol is on the track of something, and that truth just hurts?
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>>133090608
Why didn't Ethipoians colonize India? Why didn't they conquer the Arabian peninsula? You pretend Euros are oppressors, but Arabs too took part in the African slave trade.

Why didn't the Mali empire colonize Spain? They were not landlocked.
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>>133090718
>eastern europe
after your elders having experienced the horrors of central planning while being immobile state-dependent serfs you still support that?
it's one thing to give something a shot and fail but complete insanity to repeat the same steps and expect a vastly different result
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>>133090815
This is just a proof of their society being backwards and fucked up. They need time to develop themselves. Until 19th century, norwegians were know as a nation of drunkards, for example.
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>>133089972
>when they soon have to conform
According to whom?
>Are you telling me that the co-operative effort of many small tribes can bring down a large empire?
Thanks for admitting you were wrong.
>I always knew the international union of anarcho-primitivist communes can bring some results.
Yeah, the circumstances of the 4th century and the present day are identical.
>all nationalists are literally Hitler.
I fucking wish.
>Is that your high-esteemed alt-right education or just something you learned from your local redneck "philosophers"?
Its literally on wikipedia my man. Ramesses II had red hair. Tut was r1b.
>I never said it was natural.
>>133086224
>"Democratic socialism is the only natural choice"
>Capitalism is not natural either, it ascended from feudalism
How was feudalism unnatural? It was a simple, organic transition from the prior organization of kingdoms, which themselves descended from tribes.
>It's just that society needs a new form of organizing when they reach a certain point of development.
If that's your thesis, I fail to see how the best new form is the one that's inferior to its predecessor.
>We can't have feudalism with machine guns and expect that this will be how we get a man on the Mars.
Know what else we can't have? niggers.
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>>133091058
But how can they fucking develop themselves if:

a. They get gibs from whitey (don't feed the pidgeons, otherwise they'll never learn to find food by themselves) from whitey taxpayer money

and

b. all their best, supposedly come to Europe for better lives?

The African peoples are not perpetual victims as the media displays them. They are the makers of their own fate. You think the other side of the political spectrum is /pol/, but I say, read some Guillame Faye or Alain de Benoist.
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>>133090894
Keep voting for May, fuck up the UK, but at least you get the kind of Brexit negotiations you want.

>>133090932
I don't have problems with how /pol/ is moderated, you guys just can't keep yourselves in /pol/ and flow into all the other places on the internet. Literally every youtube comment section related to politics is full of alt-right kids. Every fucking video related to politics is some dumbass spouting alt-right memes. I cannot have any peace from you simple-minded retards who consider your narrow-minded views so serious that you want to enter debates where you loudness cannot make your arguments more valid.

>>133090953
I didn't say arabs were the good guys, but maybe if Trump keeps donating to Saudi Arabia and bombing the middle east some more, maybe they begin to look like the lesser evil in the end indeed.

>>133091051
Everyone older than me have told me that soviet union was not that bad for them, it only sucked for the political dissidents. Of course there was hard times but some things were better than today as well.

And again, for the 9th time already, I am not in support of Soviet Union or any form of revolutionary, reactionary communism. My views are social democratic or democratic socialist.
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>>133091415
>I didn't say arabs were the good guys, but maybe if Trump keeps donating to Saudi Arabia and bombing the middle east some more, maybe they begin to look like the lesser evil in the end indeed.
Oh, you mean just like Obama and Bush did, y'know, guys who /pol/ hates? Literally the only ones who supported Trump bombing Syria were the establishment and plebbitors.
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>>133091415
my elders have told me the same
my elders privatised real estate for pennies on a dollar
my elders worked very little for exhuberant pensions they've been enjoying for eternity
my elders are an ever-bigger burden on the welfare state, namely healthcare
my elders had 2/3 lower tax rates
my elders stole everything that wasn't bolted down in worker-owned enterprises
my elders vacationed on company-owned resorts for what could be considered free
my elders were smart to take advantage of a failed democratic socialist system, so much so they killed it dead while retaining all the benefits to this day

if I were your elders I'd be ecstatic about it too!
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>>133091415
Have you considered that most of those people on youtube are not from pol? People have just had enough.

Seeing thousands of people dying, many of them in big cities in your and your neighbours countries during the "holy month of ramadan" ?
People are just waking up, and reacting where it seems appropriate. ..Such as political videos.
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>>133091280
I don't support giving them fish, but giving them fishing rods and tell them to fish for themselves. You do have to understand that africans can't become self-relient if the west keeps exploiting them and doesn't treat them as equal partners.

>>133091132
Do you know also that one of the pharoahs was a nubian, literally a black dude? Your boasting proves no point, literally a "we wuz kangz" argument.

>How was feudalism unnatural? It was a simple, organic transition from the prior organization of kingdoms, which themselves descended from tribes.
Feudalism exploits the working class and their labor even worse than capitalism. The amount of free men in feudalism is so small it might as well not exist at all. Stop watching Lord of the Rings and thinking feudalism was some kind of national socialist village utopia. What is so great about working your ass off every day on somebody else's land and dying diseased at 35 years old?
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>>133091624
>my elders stole everything that wasn't bolted down in worker-owned enterprises

Very much this

>socialism wasn't that bad
>85% of population was stealing material in companies
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>>133091775

you're right op, as a non white we should remove all whites, sorry but this includes you op
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>>133091775
And you think that by being a demsoc establishment cuck, supporting the ones that send millions to corrupto governments in Africa is the thing that will help the Africans? What an idiots. Don't give them rods either, I say. Give them the fucking blueprints for rods. Otherwise if the rods break, they won't be able to create new ones.
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>>133087142
>I am not gonna show my real flag
then nobody will not take you seriously, cuck faggot
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>>133091624
"USSR sucked" argument does not disprove left-wing worldview. I am tired of this strawmanning, get real please.

>>133091519
Because /pol/ is nothing more than former liberals flirting with fascist worldview. Traditional conservatives, you know, those who actually voted Trump into office, are the same who voted Bush junior into office, and they don't give a crap about "bombing lots of a-rabs somewhere in the middle east" as long as it vaguely helps fighting terrorism.

>>133091652
What are people waking up to, bigotry? I agree that mass immigration and letting all these refugees to europe is not a good long-term solution, they would just keep coming and overwhelm our social structure, but them coming here should be a signal that maybe we should change our foreign policy for once? Conservatives are too retarded to ever propose such a thing, now let them struggle with all those refugees. Islamophobia and going DEUS VULT only creates more conflict and chaos to this world and throws as back to backward kind of primitivism, we have to instead take action now and stop funding saudi arabia, stop meddling in the middle east, stop giving humanitarian aid to african warlords and support human right activists in 3rd world instead of shunning them in favor of the religious fundamentalist support and their oil money.
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>>133092193
you don't feel doubly cheated?
1. you don't enjoy the gibsmedats and benefits of your elders
2. you are overburdened with theirs
3. EUSSR is emerging as the new satan
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>>133091937
First day in /pol/, kid?

>>133091942
See this post, reply to second quote >>133092193

>>133092101
>implying that you took me seriously before
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>>133092294
*I meant third quote
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>>133091415
>Keep voting for May
I DON'T VOTE CONSERVATIVE. I DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE!
They're all on the same team. They all have the same policies!
Corbyn will take the debt the conservatives racked up and go with it like he can afford to run a country thats TRILLIONS in debt just like the conservatives did after labour, you absolute retard.

They can rack up all the debt they want if they know the next parliament will just inherit it with no questions asked.

The only way you can be this bluepilled on politics is if you are a paid shill.
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>>133092193
>"USSR sucked" argument does not disprove left-wing worldview
reality disproves left wing worldview. It is childish to assume that people are equal in any way, and retarded to claim that people will allow themselves to be equal with the others. Humanity craves competition.
>because /pol/ is XYZ
no it is not JIDF agent
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>>133092193
>Because /pol/ is nothing more than former liberals flirting with fascist worldview. Traditional conservatives, you know, those who actually voted Trump into office, are the same who voted Bush junior into office, and they don't give a crap about "bombing lots of a-rabs somewhere in the middle east" as long as it vaguely helps fighting terrorism.
A lot of /pol/ are in fact liberals who think that liberalism can only work in a 100% white ethnostate.

>support human rights activists
I say support none of them. Leave them be and let them decide their own destiny. Also, guess who is directly or indirectly responsible for all the problems you mentioned beforehand.
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>>133092294
at least you know that you are a joke
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