https://qz.com/1024520/renewable-energy-is-becoming-so-cheap-the-us-will-meet-paris-commitments-even-if-trump-withdraws/
>Research analysts at Morgan Stanley believe that renewable energy like solar and wind power are hurtling towards a level of ubiquity where not even politics can hinder them. Renewable energy is simply becoming the cheapest option, fast. Basic economics, the analysts say, suggest that the US will exceed its commitments in the Paris agreement regardless of whether or not president Donald Trump withdraws, as he’s stated he will.
>“We project that by 2020, renewables will be the cheapest form of new-power generation across the globe,” with the exception of a few countries in Southeast Asia, the Morgan Stanley analysts said in a report published Thursday.
>“By our forecasts, in most cases favorable renewables economics rather than government policy will be the primary driver of changes to utilities’ carbon emissions levels,” they wrote. “For example, notwithstanding president Trump’s stated intention to withdraw the US from the Paris climate accord, we expect the US to exceed the Paris commitment of a 26-28% reduction in its 2005-level carbon emissions by 2020.”
>Globally, the price of solar panels has fallen 50% between 2016 and 2017, they write. And in countries with favorable wind conditions, the costs
associated with wind power “can be as low as one-half to one-third that of coal- or natural gas-fired power plants.” Innovations in wind-turbine design are allowing for ever-longer wind blades; that boost in efficiency will also increase power output from the wind sector, according to Morgan Stanley.
>>133042977
Checked. Archive https://archive.is/w9FNE
>>133042977
>Paris commitments
Nope.
These guys are fucking retarded. You will still need coal because coal adapts to a changing power grid. Solar memes and wind power can't do that. And no, we can't just use batteries to store extra energy.
>>133042977
yes and we are going to put solar panels on the boarder wall making it the biggest green energy project in history.
>>133042977
Seems fine with me. Withdraw from Paris accords and gain more energy.
>>133042977
so under budget, ahead of schedule?
>>133042977
So we meet the goals without having to pay?
Leftys blown the fuck out!
>>133042977
If those subsidies go away, it's no longer cheap.
>>133043096
into the recycling bin it goes
>>133042977
>meet agreement without paying billions
libshits BTFO
>>133043734
This would be hilarious. Any time a lefty opposes the wall just accuse them of being a global warming denier.
>>133042977
Goes to show how useless the Paris accords are. Too bad we can only generate cheap and excess energy when there's extremely low demand for it. When we can manage to store the energy and use it on demand when it isn't being generated (like at night when we actually need lights and more electricity) that'll be a good milestone
>>133044315
>Paris accords used to be about shaping the world and history
>now they are about technocratic circlejerking
fitting
solor power is a meme
>>133044315
Daytime is actually peak draw hours.
>>133044757
Right now it is. It wont be for long. When it becomes nearly the same price to install a new solar roof vs a new standard shingle roof, the singularity will be unavoidable.
WOOHOO
time to invest in subsidized panels and batteries and start building my electric motorcycle
>silent
>100% torque at 1% throttle
>basically free energy
>can charge with a plug anywhere and dont have to rely on gas stations
>>133044757
memes are real
>>133044315
>Too bad we can only generate cheap and excess energy when there's extremely low demand for it
Yes, too bad that the middle of the day is when people use the least electricity.
Everyone knows that peak usage hours are midnight - 5 AM when the sun is down
I absolutely love my solar panels. Got them last year and they have saved me 180$ a month so far.went from paying a 230$ ele bill to a 50$ bill
>>133042977
>Research analysts at Morgan Stanley believe that renewable energy like solar and wind power are hurtling towards a level of ubiquity
(((analysts)))
>>133042977
If we were going to meet the goals with or without the Paris Agreement, than what was the point of signing into it in the first place?
>>133042977
Cool so we can get cheap energy without completely destroying our way of life and economy
>>133042977
Wow, demand for solar panels goes down, Solar panels become cheaper. Who'd have thought?
>get billions in payback from government tax incentives
>my god look how cheap it is!!
>>133042977
>https://archive.is/w9FNE
good news. The paris climate sham was about the US giving money to other countries that in turn took that money and spent it on bullshit pet projects.
So once again, Trump is giving a Big win. He is in favor of all of the above engery as long as its America First.
The only problem I see with this is who makes the panels?
>>133047516
to destroy our great nation
>>133042977
Bullshit the US will meet the goal becouse it is fracking. That single act has contributed to a 12% reduction in emissions as it replaces coal and petrol.
Soooo....you're saying the Market solved the problem?
>>133047286
how much the panels cost?
>>133043734
>leftist won't be able to argue against the wall unless they want to be anti-environmental
I love it
>>133047516
To let politicians pretend that they're saving the planet and to allow the state to extort billions of dollars from tax payers into the hands of their cronies by means of corporate subsidies and foreign aid payments to corrupt third world governments.
>>133045171
I really dont wanna scrape snow off a solar panel roof.
>>133048047
I payed 5800 cash and in another year and half they will have payed for them selfs
>>133046537
Invest in a system that uses electricity produced from solar power to convert carbon dioxide and water into hydrocarbons. gasoline is already a high density chemical battery
>>133044315
>Too bad we can only generate cheap and excess energy when there's extremely low demand for it.
Do you live on the Cali Coast or some breezy island and not use air conditioning? Thermal/humidity regulation takes WAY more power than lighting, and that's BEFORE we started replacing everything with LEDs. Most places hit max peak max draw in the late afternoon.
>>133048047
10 grand minimum.
>>133048658
It's alot cheaper when you pay cash and not do installments
>>133042977
It will make us give aid money to poo in loos?
>>133042977
Cool, we get to reap the actual benefits of alternative, but developing energy without being forced to pay billions for other counties. Paris Accords were a sham.
>>133042977
Take away all the federal subsidies and it ain't cheap anymore.
Also, what are rare earth metals and minerals. Mining them ain't good for the environment.
>>133048248
Solar panel roofs can be heated
>>133042977
>mfw Trump withdraws from the Paris Climate Accord, thereby causing an international, Cat. 5 Shitstorm and Tsunami of lefty-tears... only to meet and VASTLY EXCEED the initial terms of the agreement by building a solar-paneled BORDER WALL!!
They will then explode with confusion since they'll have to attack the most ambitious and effective applied green energy project the world has ever seen!! 12th dimensional Dodecahedron-latticed inverse fractal Shogi...
Falling carbon emissions has more to do with the western and east asian age 25-65 populations peaking and stagnating or declining, recent population growth comes from countries too poor to consume much energy like Africa and India
Not to mention the 2008 economic crisis which fucked the millennial generation so they no longer consume as much housing, vehicles, driving, ect
Basically the environment is improving because the middle class is dying and old fucks everywhere not buying shit or having children
>>133042977
What the fuck are those? Fake solar panels?
>>133042977
Okay? So why were liberals whining and crying that we wouldn't sign the Paris thing?