Hey pol i am a Muslim Iranian born and raised in Canada. What

when are you getting back

What do you think about Iran yourself?

>>133030380
why should i go back this is my country.

>>133030344
When will your country nuke itself? (Canada or Iran, either one would be excellent)

>>133030482
the government or the people?

>>133030344
>not actively calling yourself canadian but an actual towelhead shitskin
you have to go back mahmud, go get raped by camels. you can't even attempt to identify yourself as your nationality because your a fucking shitmonger.
at least our nigs actually identify as american rather then being a god damn leech on society like you subhuman parasites.

>>133030552
Both.

>>133030344
Why the fuck do you cling to your shitty religion that does nothing but enslave people while living in the nicest parts of the world that were built, muslim free

Funny that, the nicest places on earth aren't historically muslim....

>>133030664
This

>>133030344
when you left iran did you say.......
....."I-RAN AWAY"

XXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>133030552
Well, do you think Islamic Revolution was a good choice? What do you think about Israel and its rivalry with Iran? Do you think Iran is likely to acquire nukes in the near future?

>>133030344

what will you do after Saudi Arabia and Donald Trump annihilate your country?

When will Persians unironically abandon Islam?
Also what do you think about the fact that you guys had adopted Arabic alphabet back in the day? Are there movements for an indigenous alphabet?

>>133030990
>towelnigger proves it cannot comprehend the human emotion of loyalty
>towelnigger thinks its better then anything even the filthy soulless subhuman chinks.

>>133030344
Do you miss it?

>>133030344
What Iranians think about Egyptians?

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>>133030344
>Iranians choosing Islam when they had a much better system before

>>133030344
How's the weather in Canada?

>>133031718
Counter-question - what do Egyptians think about Iranians? Do you still hate them for their conquests?

>Muslim iranian
>born and raised in canada
Exactly the lack of assimilation we're talking about. You have no connection to iran and yet you don't call yourself canadian. Get out of my fucking hat, sand nigger.

>>133031846
for their conquests no of course that ancient history, but some sunnis here hate them because they are Shia, IDK if u know this retard conflict between sunnis and Shia, for me I like them as people but I hate their Islamic government, I think better for iranians and Egyptians to unite together against the arabs retards, at least we both have history and civilization

When are you doing back?

>>133032404
Why u care?

>>133032246
Sure, I do know about the Sunni/Shia conflict, has been going on for centuries. I really could never see any valid point in the contradictions between the two though. As a Sunni Muslim, do you think your differences are actually that irreconcilable?

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>>133030344
this is your 10th post!!!
you're not special... something of somewhere is nothing of nowhere!!!
don't define yourself by those markers!!
do something useful!

>>133032246
But egypt is arab.

Are you the guy who wrote Life of Pi ?

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>>133032732
I am actually atheist from Coptic background, but their differences are retarded doesn't deserve all this problems and I believe if gulf oil money curse doesn't exist, sunni shia conflict would die now.
>>133033162
Egyptians arent arabs, pic related

>>133033360
KANGZ

>>133030344
Why is there a picture of Iran?

>>133033660
WE WUZ, but now we are a third world country :(

>>133034068
don't worry, your former glory will once again return

>>133034113
Do you really have to blindly insult everyone in this thread? What's your endgame?

>>133034113
yub it is excellent source roach and we arent friends as long u support Erdogan
>>133034209
I dont think it will be in my age, we are now just trying to survive this region fire.
>>133034362
What is the source for this notepad screenshot?

>>133030664
That's because Anglos are the scum of the Earth. Even if Iran were Zoroastrian, it would do everything in its power to end the Eternal Anglo. In fact, I would say the Eternal Anglo is more damaging than kikes and Gulf Arabs. Kikes and Gulf Arabs are subhumans that would be insignificant without the backing of Eternal Anglos. We are going to bring back scaphism especially for you Anglo scum.

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>>133034113
PCA autosomal DNA plots are the best way to determine race. Haplogroups don't say shit. This is from a Nature article.

>>133035099
>http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5210135/1/
WTF are u retarded?
u doesnt trust a well known scientific organization like national geographic that made a large scale research in many people and believe one random forum poster DNA result?
Check my source roach
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

>>133035643
National Geographic sucks ass. I gave an actual image from a Nature Journal Article, which has impact factor. Bar graphs based off nebulous geographical categories suck, and it's better to rely on PCA autosomal DNA plots to figure out genetic distance. This is the best proxy to determine race:
>>133034805

Autosomal DNA goes all the way back with one's grandparents and are better than haplogroups.

>>133036833

I dont understand how this graph work, do u care to explain?

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>>133030808
what, you think anybody in the world wants to be a t*rk?

what happened with stuxnet?

>>133030344
Get out disgusting animal. You think canadians like you? Not true, only brainwashed leftist Torontonians. Your time is coming.

>>133030380
ooga booga

>>133037023
Autosomal DNA goes all the way back with one's grandparents and PCA plots give an idea of genetic distance between groups of people that cluster with each other.

>>133038145
So long as one has money and can isolate themselves from the rabble, why does it matter if people like or dislike you?

>>133030491
Can you loan me some of that 10$ million you got? I swear I'll hit you up like next week man.

>>133030344
Why do you still refer to yourself as Iranian despite being Arab in literally every single way?

>>133034670
>If Iran were zoroastrian
>It would end X

Fuck off Arab, you know nothing of our religion. We aren't prone to conflict and genocide like your kind.

>>133030491
>>133030808
>>133039128
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

Are any of the cancucks racist towards you?

>>133030344
since you were born in Canada How come you don't identify as a Canadian but instead as an Iranian

The petrodollar system will be destroyed in the near future.

>>133040172
Read about Sassanids and how they persecuted Christians, Manichees, etc. Zoroastrians weren't peaceful hippies like Jains, retard.

The Anglos have caused a 100x more damage than the Russians did to Iran in 19th century and Arabs, believe it or not. In terms of damage caused to Iran: Mongols rank first, then Anglos, and then Arabs.

Faggot, read our history. The Shah lost power because of Anglos.

>>133035643
>>133037023
Don't bother. This guy has a very recognizable posting style and shits up every thread relating to Iran. He's an American born we wuzzer he thinks he's white.
He hates natgeo because their dna results on Iranians showed them to be 56% Arabian, and 24% South Asian.

>>133030344
i fucking hate you, leave

>>133030344
>>133040307

Why Canada?

>>133030664
It's actually pathetic how fucking seething you are. OP hasn't even said anything to trigger you this much.

Good thing you don't live here backwater scum.

>>133030344
You aren't Iranian if you were born and raised in Canada you dumb shit. You're fucking Canadian.

>>133040639
>you're not white!
nice d&c

>>133030344
You aren't Iranian if you were born and raised in Canada, you dumbshit. You're fucking Canadian.

>>133040639
And I know who you are, Islamic piece of shit. I'm not saying Iranians are White. I am saying Iranians are genetically closer to Anatolian Turks and Armenians than they are to Arabs. That's still not White.

>>133030491
>this is my country
yet you call yourself Iranian and not Canadian. Fuck off. I'm not even Canadian and this pisses me off.

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>>133040831
So white :^)

>>133030380
>born and raised in Canada
Learn to read, you favela ape.

>>133040639
>he thinks he's white.
Never have I argued Iranians are White, and you are a retard if you can't interpret that graph. Go back to being an "engineer", basiji scum. Iranians are more closely related to Armenians, Azeris, and Anatolian Turks than they are to Arabs.

>>133030344
When are you leaving, headed back to your ancestral shithole, never to return?

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>>133040815
>absolutely civic

>>133030491
>this is my country

>>133032298
We will literally nuke the entire earth and not feel bad about it before we become slaves to any shit heads.

>>133030344
>3 posts by this ID

>>133030380

Said the brazilian subhuman whose country is recognized worldwide for:

Drugs, crime, murder, plastic whores and a fucking big statue of Jesus (Great fucking job at being humble, eh?) with a smile of contempt looking at the eternal shithole before him.

Fucking pathetic OP, posts AMA thread and only replies twice.

>hurr durr this is my country
You have to go back, Farzam.

>>133030344
>Muslim Iranian
Shit-tier compared to lax Iranians and Perso-Kikes

out of all Iranians you are the lowest tier

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>>133040943
>I'm not saying Iranians are White
>>133041126
>Never have I argued Iranians are white

Ok pic related

>I'm an Iranian in Canada
>Go back to Iran then
>No, I'm Canadian
Even if it's falseflagging this is a prime example of shitty assimilation.

>>133040943
Persians are actually south indian influenced while Turks are east eurasian influenced but yeah both are close populations

>>133030344
Why don't you call yourself a Shia and admit you're a sectarian?

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>>133041776
top kek. I'll save both of these and post them in any thread you shit up

>>133030344
>Muslim
>Iranian

Literally cucked by Arabs. How does that feel? You would get full respect by the entire western world should you renounce your heretic faith and go back to being a based zoroastrian Persian. What do you think about this problem?

>>133041776
>>133041937
That's not me.

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>>133041912
Because sectarians are agents of the west, and larping kuffar
>>133042430
>thats not me
>have the exact same posting style
>post the exact same images every time
>go on autistic rants about "muh autosomal dna plots" etc
Yeah ok

>>133040394
The sassanids didn't persecute shit, certain rulers persecuted others.

Mani himself was patronized in the sassanian court before being put to death and the reason for it is not religious bigotry.

>The 18th century

Iran was long dead by then. You guys had gone through nearly 700 years of constant Arab and Azeri rule, you're literally nothing like us.

>Read our history
>Our history
>Our

Nigga you can have everything from the saffarids and on, nobody wants that shit. You shouldn't go claiming descent from the sassanids or achaemenids like most diaspora does, because that sure as fuck has nothing to do with you muzzies.

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>>133043076
Sassanids and Achaemenids genetically relate more to modern Persians than they do to you NW Europeans. Check image, and I can give study if need be.

Also, Kartir Hangirpe was just as bad Khomeini. Mani was, indeed, put to death for religious bigotry. Same with Mazdak the Younger.

Stop circle-jerking over Utopian fantasies of my historical past. History is never black and white the way you think, piece of shit.

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>>133042155
>Literally cucked by Arabs. How does that feel?
Nice attempt at divide and conquer. But a false statement nonetheless. By your logic every muslim in existence who's not a blood descendant of the prophet was cucked. At least Persians were among his original companions, before he even became a prophet.
And ironically the plurality of Seyyeds (blood descendants of the prophet (saw)) are Iranians.
But how does it feel for you to be cucked by dark Mediterranean Romans and Greeks?
>You would get full respect by the entire western world
Wow what an honor. Having the respect of inferior subhuman kuffar who have the same status as dogs and pigs is something we so desperately want or care about lmao.
>should you renounce your heretic faith and go back to being a based zoroastrian Persian
>renounce the true religion of Allah and go back to being a kaffir majoosi!
Lel

>>133042155
If you're so based, why don't you lead the way by dropping Christianity and reconnecting to your own Pagan myths?

>>133043301
>Ancient Iranians

At most those genetic tests are going back 500 years, modern day Iranians are more closely related to Turks and Arabs then they were to Persians. Maybe dards or pashtuns but not you faggots.

>You NW Europeans

Where did you get that from? My family are zoroastrians from Afghanistan.

>Stop circle-jerking over Utopian fantasies of my historical past.

Nobody wants to claim the past of Muslim Iran, news flash: it's shit.

>>133043301
>Kartir Hangirpe was as bad as khomeini

Lel, no Muslims are infinitely worse. Either way you missed my point.

>>133043773
>At most those genetic tests are going back 500 years, modern day Iranians are more closely related to Turks and Arabs then they were to Persians
The study showed that Iron-Age Iranians are close to modern-day Iranians.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/07/13/science.aaf7943.full

It compared the genome of Iron Age Iranians from Sassanian era in Teppe Hasanlu to modern day Iranians.

I think you are conflating Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans and so forth with Persians and Medes.

Greater Iran encompassed more than Persians and Medes. It also included Bactrian and Sogdians.

>>133043773
It's true that Pamiri Tajiks and so forth have more Proto-Indo-Iranian ancestry, but it is doubtful that Proto-Indo-Iranian admixture on Zagros Mountains shifted to the genome of Persians that much. Proto-Indo-Iranian migrations occurred in approximately 3000 BC and Persian empire began in 550 BC. Persians have also be Southern Caucasus people like Armenians and PCA autosomal plots show that.

>>133043773
>Nobody wants to claim the past of Muslim Iran, news flash: it's shit.
Islamic Golden Age was largely due to Persians such as Avicenna, Al-Khwarizmi (Algebra is a Latinization of his name), Al-Tusi, Al-Farabi, Rhazes, and so forth, mostly from Greater Khorasan, where you come from, faggot. You were a part of Greater Iran most of history -- it didn't change after Islam. For example, Safavids and Samanids.

>>133043773
He's autistic don't bother with him

>>133045263
You're the autistic one constantly spreading Khomeinist bullshit. Everything I say is backed with evidence. I even link sources.

>>133043773
It's true you guys have the blood of Turanians more than modern Persians, but there's a reason the Shahnameh distinguishes people of Pars from people of Tur whilst encouraging union. Don't try to stir propaganda shit of dividing our people.

I don't get why Iran wants to stabilize Levantine countries like Syria and Lebanon rather than Central Asia, which has historically been what we did. I think it's because of oil.

>>133030380
Don't listen to them, Hue. I came here to post what you said.
>>133030344
So OP, when are you going back to Goatfuckistan?

>>133030344
Give us the national defense secrets of Iran NOW or die.

>>133045385
>look I linked something, that automatically makes it reputable!

>>133039128
don't slander Iranians by implying that Omar Khadr is one

>>133030344
do you have a pure qt persian sister

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>>133041444
You are officially my favourite leaf.

>>133043391
t. Arab lol

Saudi Arabia was literally created by the West and still live at the mercy of it. Good luck shitskin cuck.

>>133046112
It's from a journal that has high impact factor, but you go back to quoting Khomeini instead, low-class scum.

>>133046573
He is a traitor to Iranian heritage, true, but I don't think you are any better, to be honest.

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>>133046730
>diaspora we wuzzing neet calling someone else low-class scum

>>133031801
>choosing

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>>133046573
>Saudi Arabia (literally named after a kaffir) of the last 70 years = Arabia of the last 1400 years

>>133046948
How am I we wuzzing? I don't see the issue with claiming strong ancestral link with the Achaemenids and Sassanids when the data supports what I am saying.

I am not saying we should be jumping up and down thinking we're somehow superior, but I'm just saying it's a part of our heritage.

>>133045493
>Shahnameh
>Implying a book written by some faggot with a mutilated dick 400 years after Iran had fell is accurate or relevant

Do you now see why I say we don't have the same history? The shahnameh is some retarded ass shit literally written for a Turk.

>>133047563
The Shahnameh helped preserve many Zoroastrian myths and in general is written in Persian, with little Arabic loan words. It is the national epic of Iranian peoples, and Parsi people who revere the Avesta also respect Ferdowsi's efforts with the Shahnameh.

I don't think you know much about Zoroastrianism beyond spewing narcissistic shit on forums.

>>133047563
>>133047824
One invasion of Arabic peoples is not enough to change the entire gene pool of peoples. Also, Arabs did not maintain rule for long as Samanids and more came.

>>133047563
>>133047824
>>133047915
I talk about Persian genetics here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/131859388/

Bakhtiari people are the proxy of what Ancient Persians genetically were.

>>133045014
>It didn't change after Islam

Yeah, yeah, religion of peace. Anymore bullshit?

Literally everything changed after Islam, zoroastrian values were thrown out the window and semitic ones were adopted instead. Literally nothing we do is similar to what you Muslims do, how long are you going to continue to argue that you guys are still the same? You guys are scared of dogs, eat meat and are violent as shit, literally nothing like us.

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DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO SAUDI ARABIA
DEATH TO YAHUDI

YA ALI

YA ZAINAB

YA NASRALLAH

>>133048146
I'm not Muslim if that's what you're implying.

Zoroastrianism is the root religion of all the Abrahamic faiths, btw.

Also, we retained our Zoroastrian holidays like Yalda, Chershebe-Suhr, Nowruz, etc. We also maintained a lot of the literature via Shahnameh which spends a lot of times detailing the Sassanids.

Technically, if we want to be more specific, Sassanids are the beggining of Iran. Achaemenids were a little too long ago and their language is way too different. Middle Persian of Sassanids is not that different from Modern Persian.

>>133030344
Welcome to our board, white man. When are you going to ditch that shitskin religion? You're not an Arab mudblood are you?

>>133048507
Praying five times a day came from Zoroastrians, as an example.

>>133047563
None of that is Iranian history. That we wuzzer crap was only made known by the Pahlavi's who tried using it to invent a new westernized culture with a pre islamic wrapping in order to try and get rid of the Islamic culture Iran had.
After they got btfo, the small number of people infected with this cancer all fled to the west, and their children grew up with it like the diaspora you're talking to.
In Iran I had never heard of any of the stuff this guy talks about, which only shows me how delusional and out of touch he is. But since he can't even speak Farsi and has never been to Iran it's no surprise.
In reality Iranian and Afghan culture were the same until the 1500s and still are very alike today.
The only real difference is Iran became Shia after Ismail tried to kill all the Sunni who wouldn't convert and replaced them with Shia from the rest of the muslim world, while Afghanistan broke off from the Safavid empire and remained Sunni.

>>133048601
Safavids revered the Shahnameh. Just look it up. The Shahnameh is broken into 3 parts: 1) mythical beginning, 2) Rostam's trials, 3) history of Sassanids. The 3rd part is actually quite accurate and details the rise and fall of Sassanid monarchy.

The Safavid monarchic system was based off of Sassanid model.

>>133048601
I have been to Iran, and I explained how there is huge, drastic differences between the poor and upper classes, especially based off ethnicities. Mazandaranis and upper-class Tehranis all know the fucking Shahnameh and basic Zoroastrian history.

>>133047824
Parsis also adopted the stance that God's in zoroastrianism are also angels after a little bit of pressured from the British Raj. I associate with my religion, not with a random community living in Mumbai that barely practices their religion anymore.

>I don't think you much about zoroastrianism

Lmao, bruh zoroastrianism has nothing to do with the shahnameh. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?

We have little care for the Persian culture, but zoroastrianism will live and it won't be corrupted by Islamic notions.

>>133047915
Samanids were just Arabs living in Iran.
>>133048026
Doubt it faggot.

>>133047355
Did you ever consider the possibility that pre islamic Persians were related to their regional neighbors too, just like Iranians and Afghans are today?
>the data supports what I am saying.
>Only the data I like while I dismiss everything else stating otherwise
>>133048803
>Safavids revered the Shahnameh.
If that's the case then they would've converted Persia back to Zoroastrianism instead of making it Shia because they had an inferiority complex to the Sunni Ottomans.
And yet I have never heard of it in Iran. And the first time I heard of it was from you not shutting up about it.
Really made me think

>>133049021
I've read the Gathas from the Avesta and scholarly texts detailing history of Zoroastrianism. I know what the fuck I am talking about. You have an overly romantic view of our past. I am just telling you to be a bit more realistic and such. I respect our Zoroastrian tradition deeply, but it wasn't perfect in the way you think.

Dude, Greater Khorasan was a part of Greater Iran then too. The idea any of us are Arab rapebabies is a false meme which I gave evidence for

>>133048507
>Root of all abrahamic religions

Lol and Judaism is the root of Christianity and Islam, and Islam still contradicts both religions by introducing Muhammad.

>Retained zoroastrian holidays

Okay? All you faggots do is eat meat and get wasted on those days, fuck your Islamic bullshit.

>>133048507

>>133030344
Ex-Muslim when? Come home Zoroastrian man

>>133049012
>upper-class Tehranis all know the fucking Shahnameh and basic Zoroastrian history.
Yet I am an upper-class Tehrani and I have never heard of it before you started posting here.
>muh anecdotes
>these things are true and happened because I say so
Then why can't you speak Farsi?

>>133030380

this desu

>>133049216
Everyone is related, but some people are more closely related than others. My point is, Iranians genetically relate more closely to Armenians, Anatolian Turks, and Georgians than they do Gulf Arabs. That's all I am saying.

>If that's the case then they would've converted Persia back to Zoroastrianism instead of making it Shia
Look up Mulla Sadra and Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi, faggot. I told you this multiple times.

>>133049334
>You have an overly romantic view of the past

Coming from the dude arguing that Islam is peace and that a book written 400 years after the fall of a religion is accurate. Nigga, how delusional can you be? I'm open to anything you can tell about Iranian history but not with any of that Islamic revisionist bullshit in there.

>>133049369
Zoroastrians ate meat except for cows, which they revered. They ate stuff like lamb, you know. Only Mazdakites and Manichees were vegetarian.

>>133049485
>Yet I am an upper-class Tehrani and I have never heard of it before you started posting here.
Lol, no you are not, you lying faggot. You are poor Isfahani scum like you've told me before. You lie like one too. Either that, or you are a paid shill.

>>133049743
>Coming from the dude arguing that Islam is peace
Where did I argue this, inbred piece of trash? I swear, I will bring back scaphism specifically for you.

>>133049758
>Read the gathas
>It's okay to eat meat

Bullshit much?

By the gathas are you actually talking about your stupid ass fucking shahnameh again?

This fucking guy.

>>133049903
>Muh Islam dindu nuffin
>Muh Islamic golden age
>Muh shahnameh

Mahmoud pls. Your history begins after the fall of the sassanids, not before it.

>>133049815
>like you've told me before.
Nice lie or paranoia. I'm from Valenjak. You probably don't even know where that is without doing a google search because you're a poor little diasporafaggot neet who can't even speak Farsi and lies in order to shill so he feels better about his fantasies.
>>133049743
He hates Islam, and you can clearly see he's such an insufferable diaspora we wuzzing faggot he tries saying Afghanistan is part of "greater Iran" when in reality they are both just two parts of a dead empire that were once one.

>>133030344
Kys when?

>>133050149
Gathas says it's bad to eat cow/cattle. I mentioned that retard. However, it says nothing in regards to chicken or lamb -- etc.

>Muh Islam dindu nuffin
I never argued this.

>Muh Islamic golden age
Golden Age occurred despite of Islam, and my point is Persians didn't magically become all mongrels.

>Muh shahnameh
Shahnameh is important because it details Sassanid royal lineage with great accuracy.

>Your history begins after the fall of the sassanids, not before it.
It began with the Sassanids because Modern Persian is very closely related to Middle Persian. Also, architecture and many rituals were still retained, moreso than Paganism survived in Europe. Zoroastrian tradition survived more than Germanic paganism.

>>133050475
You're the one who lacks reading comprehension, and you're one annoying liar. You are not upper-class Tehrani as you contradicted me before. You are a poor basiji faggot. Also, this guy I am arguing with hates Islam more. I am disdainful of Islam as much as Christianity, but hate is too strong of a word. I do prefer a more modernized interpretation of Zurvanism.

>>133050872
>Everyone I talk to who I don't like is the same guy
You are legit schizophrenic.
Seek professional help diasporashit

>>133050475
I hate Islam too but jeeeeeeez it's about 1300 years too late to start acting as if a persian empire is going to pop up

>>133050597
Okay, give me the stanza. Gathas say all animal life is precious and all animals are imbued with intelligence and a soul.

>Didn't magically become mongrels

Yeah, they married into Arab and Turkish families and took Arab and Turkish brides leading to modern day Iranians. Don't feel bad dude, I'm going out with an Arab too, not much can be done such is life.

>Shahnameh is important because it details sassanid royal lineage with great accuracy

I'm gonna need a source on this one. Again, after 400 years I really doubt anything ferdowsi wrote was accurate.

>Modern Persian is closely related to middle Persian

Fucking hell man, you've been basing all this off of language? I speak English, guess I'm an Englishman then.

>>133050475
You ignore everything when it is convenient. You are literally scum. Look up "confirmation bias" and look up Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi and Mulla Sadra again. Zoroastrianism never faded into irrelevancy in Persian culture.

Remember, Mazandaran province remained Zoroastrian until ~1500 AD. There were attempts to fuse Shia with Zoroastrian cosmology, that's my point. A synergy of the old and new -- that's what a lot of Safavid scholars attempted.

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>>133051377
>I'm gonna need a source on this one.
I read Dick Davis' new translation and compared it to EncyclopediaIranica, and it was generally accurate. Learn to read, faggot.

>I'm going out with an Arab too
Disgusting. And you have the audacity to patronize me?

>Gathas say all animal life is precious and all animals are imbued with intelligence and a soul.
Yes, but it advises, directly, not to eat cattle/cow -- if I remember correctly. It never prohibits not eating meat directly. Sassanids ate chicken, lamb, etc. -- they avoided cow/cattle.

Anyways, here are Sassanian era artifacts depicting Ancient Persians.

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>>133051818
Another Sassanid artifact. I gave you genetic data and more, and it showed that modern Persians relate moreso to Ancient Persians than any other groups of people. Ancient Persians were not blue-eyed, blonde-haired Nords, idiot. Only Scythians, Alans, and Sarmatians tended to have wide prevalence of fair Europid phenotypes at that time.

>>133051545
>Zoroastrianism never faded into irrelevance in Iran
>Modern day Iranians basically just use zoroastrianism as an excuse to LARP

This fucking guy.

>>133052025
You are the one dating an Arab and LARPing, you pathetic piece of shit. I read the Gathas and scholarly texts detailing Zoroastrian history. I know mroe about the Sassanid empire than your fucking ass. Kill yourself and go enjoy your whore Arab lizard-eating gf. Perhaps, she'll make a blood mill out of your family like they did in Gorgan when they invaded Sassanid empire.

>>133051545
>Zoroastrianism never faded into irrelevancy in Persian culture.
And yet it's non existent in Iran today, but as a diaspora who has no connection to Iran I guess it would be too much to expect you to not be living in your we wuzzing fantasies.
>>133052183
>You are the one dating an Arab
Implying there is anything wrong with this. Top kek you're one pathetic self hating diaspora.
>LARPing
He's an actual zoroastrian, unlike diasporashits like you who larp

>>133030344
>raised in Canada
Be known the fact that God tried to love you

>>133030380
F(irst)
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>>133051818
So let me get this straight. I told you that the shahnameh was created 400 years after the fall of zoroastrianism in Iran and is therefore, unlikely to be accurate. Your response to this is to give me a source created even later than that? Nice.

Also
>Encylopediairanica
Kek

>Sassanids ate meat

Again, dude I'm only concerned with my religion not this weird LARPing shit diaspora do, I don't particularly care for the sassanids besides them being the last bastion of zoroastrianism, I don't know why you think they legitimize everything.
>Dating an Arab
I'm not a hateful human being. Zoroastrianism forbids it, you would feel the same if there were any aspect of it remaining in your culture.

>>133030344
>Hey pol i am a Muslim Iranian born and raised in Canada
Your not Canadian if you legit put Iranian before calling yourself Canadian you shitskin fuck.
LEAVE AND GO TO TEHRAN FILTHY GOATFUCKER

>>133040798
Nice try Muhammad but you fool nobody here
>>133041830
Its funny too because people claim we have a good immigration policy.
Its fucking bullshit.

Also reminder to never go to a Popeyes in Canada because they use halal chicken instead of normal slaughter chicken

Iranians are like Arabs but more feminine and cringy.

my personal favourite tragedies in world history:
1) Byzzies losing their empire to Turks
2)Nazi Germany losing WWII
3)Persia becoming muslim

>>133052183
>Dating an Arab
Again, nothing wrong with this
>LARPing
I'm just following what I was born into, you on the other hand are trying to create an identity for yourself that was never there.

>I read the gathas

Then why haven't you told me the stanza in which Zoroaster explicitly stated dead flesh can be consumed?
>I know more about the sassanids than your fucking ass

I don't LARP as them all day famalam.

>>133053238
fuck off Kraut and Kek

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When are you getting back

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>>133030344


>Muslim, Iranian before Canada
>Get the fuck out of MY country you shitskin prick

>>133031801
>>133046968
>system

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>>133040798


Fuck off nigger.

>>133052504
He wasn't born a Zoroastrian, faggot. You have a problem with confirmation bias, so talking to you is a waste of time.

>>133052874
I meant to say Encyclopædia Iranica, I also read Richard Foltz's historical summaries of Sassanid Persia and more.

Sassanid Zoroastrianism was different from Achaemenids. Achaemenids were more Mithra-Zoroastrian hybrid whereas Sassanid Zoroastrianism was codified by Kartir Hangirpe and became distinctively different.

>>133053270
You're the one calling me Arab rapebabie. Sassanids valued purity of bloodline btw. Achaemenids probably not as much...

>>133052874
Find me the passage in Gathas where it prohibits eating any meat period. It only prohibits eating cow/cattle. I read Gathas on Avesta.org. The burden of proof is on you since I cannot prove a negative.

Mazdak the Younger did interpret Avesta as prohibiting meat eating altogether, but the other Sassanian magi only refrained from eating cattle/cows. Also, if you can't tell, I care more for Sassanids since I consider Iranian heritage as beginning there. You're the one insulting me by saying we have no connection to Sassanid era. It's more than you think and comes by way of language, genetics, rituals, etc. I would agree Achaemenid connection was broken but that's due to different reasons.

>>133052874
Mazandaran province had local Zoroastrian dynasties like Paduspanids until ~15-16th century AD, so Iran and Greater Khorasan didn't become Islamic overnight. Also, you have faux Islamic cults too like Qarmatians who were secretly apocalyptic Zoroastrians who sacked Mecca. How dare you say I have no connection to Sassanid heritage? Zoroastrian shit is littered all throughout history.

>>133054456
Lel, I was born zoroastrian not a muzzie.

>Mithra-zoroastrian hybrid
Mithra was just a god in the zoroastrian pantheon breh. The achaemenids followed orthodox zoroastrianism while the sassanids utilized zoroastrianism as a state religion to counteract the influence of proselytizing religions like Buddhism in the east and Christianity in the west.

>you're the one calling me Arab rapebaby

I didn't tho. I said your ancestors willingly mixed with them and you now retain nothing from zoroastrianism in your character.

>>133054788
Second stanza, yasna 33.3

gáüsh bagá khvaremnö

>>133030344

the day of the rake is coming soon

just wait

>>133055686
I'll check it out right, but let me tell you something: Sassanids called their empire "Iranshahr", which means land of Aryans in modern Persian. Iran was used since Sassanid times.

>>133055323
No, we retained a lot from Zoroastrianism. Look up Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi

>>133030344
Make Zoroastrianism Great Again

>>133030344
Not all Sunnis are bad, some are misguided by Salafis and Wahhabis. In any case, I converted from Sunni Islam to Shia Islam because Iran and the Shittes are based and have not sold out to the Jew,

>>133055686
Yasna 33, verse 3, only talks about cattle like I was saying:
>Whose is most good to the righteous man, be he noble or member of the community or the brotherhood, Ahura — or with diligence cares for the cattle, he shall be hereafter in the pasture of Right and Good Thought [Asha and Vohu Manah].

Are you stupid?

>>133055323
Not many Iranians willingly mixed with Arabs. I gave evidence to that. Do you think Ancient Persians had blue eyes, blonde hair, you idiot? Do you think Persians just started mixing en masse after Arab invasions? It didn't change our gene pool that much. It was not significant.

>>133056082
>Sassanids called their empire "Iranshahr"

I know man, but that was 1300 years ago. Iran is never going to be like it was under zoroastrianism, Muslims don't have it in them.
>>133056146
Done, again i have the same qualms. By the looks of it he didn't want to "revive" zoroastrianism, they just want to fuse certain notions with Islam to legitimize rule of Islam. The only problem is Islam according to Muslims is infallible, while zoroastrianism is little more than a culture that can be changed at a whim.

>>133056508
>Reading retarded ass translations
>gáüsh bagá khvaremnö
>Gaush is any beneficial animal found on a farm
>Baga is God
>khvar is to eat
>Nmo is to prohibit
>Khvarnmo is to prohibit eating

Now maybe you're willing to show me where Zoroaster says it's okay to eat dead flesh, because if you've read the gathas like you said you'll know that's bullshit.

>>133048146
Also, in regards to dogs, I do agree dogs are cool and find their metaphor of guarding the Chinvat bridge amazing, but the Sassanids did frequently slaughter cats, viewing them as being wolf species created by Ahriman. All I am saying is both our Pre-Islamic and Post-Islamic traditions had good and bad things about them. The point is to improve ourselves.

>>133056735
>Not many Iranians mixed with Arabs
>I gave evidence to that

In what way? The census from the Qajar empire? Lmao.


>Inb4 lel I wuz talking bout arabs r u dum?
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>>133057242
I don't believe you truly know Avestan. Most of the translations I checked mention cattle.

>Iran is never going to be like it was under zoroastrianism,
I would prefer Iran become secular minded without becoming nihilists or relativists or libtards.

>they just want to fuse certain notions with Islam to legitimize rule of Islam.
Is that why he was killed? You're just reinterpreting shit to fit into your dogmatic worldview. You have issues with confirmation bias. Listen, I gave evidence showing how modern Persians relate to Sassanids strongly genome wise; how a lot of our pre-Islamic traditions were also retained; and so forth. Iranians retained Zoroastrianism better than Europeans retained Germanic paganism.

>while zoroastrianism is little more than a culture that can be changed at a whim.
Is this why Kartir Hangirpe had Manichaeists slaughtered and Mani killed? Is this why Mazdakites were slaughtered by Khosrau I and buried upwards with their feet serving as a spectacle or garden? All I am saying is Zoroastrian Persians were not saints like you think. Both Islam and Zoroastrianism had issues with superstitions and dogmatism occasionally.

>>133057624
>The census from the Qajar empire?
No, you faggot. I gave a journal article from a reputable source:
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/07/13/science.aaf7943.full

The journal has high impact factor. Anyways, you're the faggot mixing with an Arab, so go fuck yourself, hypocrite:

>>133030344
If you were born and raised, doesn't that make you Canadian?

Would you like a glass of bleach?

>>133057702
>Most of the translations I checked

Most of those translations are by Muslims and christians, big surprise created during a time when they were an occupying power. They literally wrote whatever the fuck they wanted to. Am I going to believe it? No, because they altered numerous facts in translations simply to show the similarities between zoroastrianism and other religions to avoid persecution.

>Is that why he was killed?

I didn't read his whole fucking biography faggot. If he got killed he probably got killed because some muzzie Arab didn't like him connecting Islam with infidels. Just because he tried to connect Islam and zoroastrianism doesn't mean they successfully did. It's like ripping parts out of a car and pretending you still have a functioning car.

>>133057702
>All I am saying is Zoroastrian Persians were not saints like you think
>>133043076
I didn't say they were faggot, I clearly said some rulers were good and others were bad, and I gave the example of the patronization of Mani versus his execution.

Are you actually retarded? My only point is you guys are not like us, stop fucking LARPing. Although at this point I think it's hopeless. Diaspora are fucked in the head.

>>133057824
>You're the faggot mixing with Arabs

Being zoroastrian and making beautiful love with an Arab. This kills the LARPer.

>>133058861
We have Zoroastrian in minority in Yazd too, fucker. It's not like Zoroastrian influences don't persist in our culture. I never heard of any Afghanistan minority being Zoroastrian btw.

>>133059091
I'm not a LARPer, faggot. Most LARPers don't even take time to read history or books. I took immense time to do so. You're the one who is a rude faggot calling us Arab mongrels, denigrating our link to our past, constantly insulting me. Most LARPers don't know shit about what they LARP as. I actually know about the heritage well.

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>>133030344
What do you think about Turks?

>>133059091
You are brain damaged in that you criticize Iranians for "willingly mixing with Arabs", when sources saying otherwise, whilst you do the same yourself. You are low-trash scum from Afghanistan and are most certainly not Zoroastrian by birth like the Zoroastrian minority of Yazd, Iran and Parsiis are.

>>133058861
There is no minority like the Zoroastrians of Yazd in Afghanistan. In fact, you (or your parents) were LARPers, and you probably don't know any nuanced traditions the way Parsi or Yazd Iranians do. Yet you had the audacity to constantly attack me in this topic, you uneducated cur?

Yeah, don't respond anymore, retarded liar. You're not interested in genuine discussion beyond demeaning others. Go eat shit, and you are a disgrace to Zarathustra's spirit.

It's like saying Europe entirely lost its pagan tradition after being Christianized. It's fucking retarded. You don't see druids walking around Europe, right, but at least in Iran there is still a Zoroastrian minority in Yazd. Also, a real effort was made with the Shahnameh to preserve Zoroastrian mythos, which even the Parsi respect. You are a real shithead. You don't insult people's dearly held connection to their ancestral past like that, especially when all evidence shows Iranians are distinct racial and ethnic group.

>>133030344
How much pain can you handle before you pass out?

>>133061137
>Iranians for "willingly mixing with Arabs", when sources saying otherwise
>Because muh few cherrypicked unreputable sources and blogposts say otherwise, while I dismiss the reputable sources that say I'm wrong
Muslims as a whole are mixed. Islam encourages racemixing, and Iran and Afghanistan were part of the Rashidun, Abbasid, and Ummayid caliphates. Don't speak about things you know nothing about.
Especially after the Safavids imported Shia from all over the muslim world to replace the Persian Sunni he genocided and to mix with the population solidifying Shia Islam.
It's also no coincidence the plurality of the prophets blood descendants are Iranian.

>>133062853
Nevermind, you won't need any spoken language to answer that.

>>133063004
I didn't cherry pick that source. It is from a reputable journal with high impact factor. On autosomal DNA plots, Iranians do not cluster near Levantine or Gulf Arabs. I'm not saying we're Europeans, but we're not racially Arabs, though some from Ahvaz province and other areas are mixed to some extent.

Safavids brought in more Georgians, Armenians, Pontic Greeks, and Circassian than they did "Seyyeds". Also a lot of modern Seyyeds are just LARPing.

>>133030344
How developed is Iran? Is it relatively similar to the first world or a shithole?

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>>133063232
>I-I didn't cherrypick it!
>I-its reputable because I say it is!
>I'm going to ignore historical fact and say that all the seyyeds are larping

>>133064008
I can say the same shit about you, edgelord.
>her durr we're all Arabs cuz Khomeini said so
>what i say is true! gonna ignore all contrary evidence
>gonna ignore hard science with genome data

Go off yourself. Iranians relate more closely to Armenians and Anatolian Turks more than fucking Arabs no matter how much you deny it.

>>133030344
op has only 3 posts and made it all in the first minute and never came back.