Explain how this is not a retarded idea Not even trolling, I'm

>>133016234
>Working with other countries to solve a problem
Change it to the Paris Agreement and liberals would blow him.

>>133016234
how about you explain how it is and we go from there

So is /pol/ comfortable with Putin's assassinations of reporters and political dissidents? I just want to get a sense of why he's so popular around here.

>>133016345
Russia is a formerly communist, currently authoritarian rival is the US and not our friends in any sense. We have nukes pointed at each other.

>>133016428
As I said, I'm not trolling. I have no agenda. This notion of security collusion with Russia seems just as ludicrous as a project with China.

I'm open to different interpretations.

>>133016234
>seems ludicrous
no shit
>implying the chinese don't network infrastructure manufacture equipment with back doors for chinese hackers.

>>133016951
>cue edgelord responses

>>133017030
>security collusion
>I'm not trolling

explain how trying to stop election hacking is bad, retard

>>133016234
i don't think the Russian governament ordered any hacking but profited from the attacks and were probably faying for info, i still need more unfo on what the anti-cyberattack agreement would actually include, it's like their anti-terror agreement with the Saudis.

>>133017299
paying* *info

>>133016234
>IMPENETRABLE
KEK FAMOUS LAST WORDS

COMPUTERS ARE INHERENTLY UNSECURE, OTHER THAN UNPLUGGING IT FROM THE INTERNET NOTHING IS IMPENETRABLE

AND EVEN THEN THERE ARE PROVEN VULNERABILITIES FOR AIR GAPPED SYSTEMS

JUST APPOINT BARRON SECURITY CZAR, HE'S GOOD WITH CYBER

>>133017030
We're not trying to be friends. We're just trying to establish a mutual existence, especially when we nearly had a candidate who wanted nothing but war with Russia almost become President.

>>133017030
We cooperate in space- an area which we were HUGE rivals in the past. That doesn't mean we exclusively deal with them in space.

>>133017166
im not the OP but can't see how the US "working together" to provide security with a country ruled by an autocrat that's been undermining its cybersecurity seems like a ridiculous notion?

Would a fitting analogy be-coming up with a joint force with North Korea to stop the development of nuclear weapons in North Korea by presumably allowing them access to nuclear weapon research?

Why wouldn't Trump be more inclined to align with modern western democracies that have already experienced widespread russian hacking? What is the Russia boner on here, I really dont fucking get it.

>>133017166
why are you so upset?

Attempting to stop election hacking is not bad, no one said it was. That's an incredibly weak strawman argument.

Attempting to stop election hacking by partnering with the country that's been your primary espionage adversary for 70 years seems unwise.

Even if you don't believe they did anything in the election, do you deny that they have no history of wanting to undermine our country?

Have you heard of the cold war?

>>133017670

>Attempting to stop election hacking by partnering with the country that's been your primary espionage adversary for 70 years seems unwise.

That's the same problem I have with his idea as well. Seems extremely ill-advised.

>>133016951
Is Putin responsible for every death in Russia? Moscow is one of the safest parts of Russia for journalists. If some reporter gets killed by a corrupt police chief in Siberia how is it his fault?

SHARIA BLUEE!!!

CTR!

SLIDE ThREAD!!

HILLARY LOST DEAL WIT IT

MAGA GOD EMPEROR HAIL TRUMP HAIL MY PEOPLE 1488 RACE WAR GAS THE KIKES NOW PRAISE KEK SHADILAY MY BROTHERS

>>133017507
See, anything appears reasonable when the alternative is sufficiently exaggerated. "Hey man, if Trump hadnt been elected we'd all be ash marks on the wall by now!" It's like the more ostensibly nefarious a certain figure or power is, the more excuses /pol/ will make for them.

A global power vacuum will be filled by Russia. Its incredibly naive to think that Putin wants some sort of benevolent equality.

>>133017632
come back with that argument when you can present the details of the implementation of this agreement

>>133017670
>Have you heard of the cold war?
no

When would be a good time to start making ammends with our enemies? How long should we wait?

I read McMasters explaining on it, so I'm more open to the idea.

So we have discussions with the situation in Syria with Russia. Those discussions leads to ceasefire in Syria. So talking with the russians helps.

Now, likewise, if we can talk with the russians about cyber issues, and agree to not allow it go out of control, that would be great. Because, make no mistake about it, we are hacking them just as much as they do to us. So obviously talking with them would do us good if we stop this from going out of control.

>>133017842
I just want you to do a thought experiment: if as many journalists critical of Hillary Clinton had been killed by D.C. police chiefs over the years, would you take that same line?

Isn't the very fact that reporters are being killed in Russia AT ALL an indication that Putin is unfit for leadership? After all he's the man in charge, is this reality to be admired?

>>133017993
liberals just want eternal war. but of course, they would never fight in those wars.

>>133017993
When they quit behaving as enemies

>>133016234

https://www.sans.org/reading-room/whitepapers/incident/international-cybercrime-treaty-ratification-1756

This is the kind of stuff he talked to Stone about.

>>133017993
Why are you playing this game? how can your initial instinct not be hesitation or concern? You're deliberately thinking in a vacuum.

Do you think that the Russian government was involved in widespread hacking this election?

>>133017950
>when the alternative is sufficiently exaggerated
She literally asked for Russian planes to be shot down. She was actively threatening Russia. Even if she dialed everything back, the media, her party, and her in particular would still have an anti-Russia agenda. The difference Trump, though, is he's not so keen on attacking Russia verbally or physically. That alone is enough to give us and Russia a chance to cooperate at some level.

>A global power vacuum will be filled by Russia. Its incredibly naive to think that Putin wants some sort of benevolent equality.
Of course, but it's better to acknowledge each other's existence as being permanent and to allow a win for each side here and there to avoid conflict instead of looking for moments to duke to see who has the bigger dick.

>>133016234
>Explain how this is not a retarded idea

Discussing henhouse security with the fox. What could go wrong?

Once again Trump has proved his genius.

>>133018280
You just heard people repeat this retarded statement enough that you automatically believe it. He's killed defectors and traitors, but journalists?

>>133016234
So there will be an intelligence organization that will cover both side's fuck ups at the same time since its equally controlled by both sides?

What could possibly go wrong?

>>133018535
No of course not, because they weren't. According to Obama, the election can't be hacked. The only "hacking" your leaders are talking about is russia targeting voters with fake news.

Well /pol/ did that just as well. Remember Rato's 5 sex affairs? Would you say that /pol/ hacked the election? NO! Then neither did Russia.

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>>133016234
Its bait. They both know no one messed with the election. So they are now trolling you.

>>133018455
seems like that's what they're doing now

>>133018535
>Why are you playing this game?
Having an opinion is a game?
>how can your initial instinct not be hesitation or concern?
Who said it's not? I still don't see how you can claim our cooperation with Russia to be inherently negative.
>Do you think that the Russian government was involved in widespread hacking this election?
no

>>133017299
>profited from the attacks
>attacks
The dude's password was "password" come on.

>>133016345
/thread

>>133018535
i actually think the US government is the one that hacked the election and utilized tell-tale russian hacking tactics/keystrokes (whatever hack-nerds call it as a signature to their manner of hacking). Other than Podesta's emails. That was podesta being a fucking moron and someone exploiting it

>>133018667
How many articles do I need to provide? Would wikipedia suffice? you can find that yourself but I suspect you'll dismiss them as fake.

But to be clear, are you any less disturbed by killing defectors if the qualifying element of the word is simply criticism of the government? Are you admitting that Putin has had citizens killed and you're ok with it? I just want to understand the ethical foundation youre operating on. Or do you think that Putin is basically a "good guy" either singularly or relative to other world leaders?

>>133018939
They hacked the DNC and state voter registries.

>>133018665
>implying Trump can give Putin any actual information on how US cyber security works

German, don't you have an appointment to go provide german women for refugees rape so they can be culturally enriched?

>>133016234
just use paper ballots. we voted before there were computers. go back to that. i feel like i'm taking crazy pills here.

>>133016951
reliable citation needed. CNN, Al Jazeera, HuffPo or WaPo (or MSNBC obviously) are not currently reliable for the dissemination of factual unbiased information

>>133020396
>paper ballots can't be hacked

>>133020396
that's not even necessary. You cannot hack election machines because there is no way into them, they are not connected to the internet in any manner Just like any computer before the internet was invented.

>>133020092
Ok, so this is what I mean. You don't trust the US government, the media, and the intelligence agencies. Or think theyre one in the same, or you trust some aspect of any of them but think another is sufficiently corrupt that it renders the good intentions of the others moot.

Fine-so why do you not assume that Russia is equally disposed towards corruption and societal domination? Especially when you can see obvious markers of massive local and state wide corruption playing out every year there. Or am I assuming too much? You don't trust Russia any more than you trust the U.S.?

>>133020483
Who do you trust? What would satisfy you? I expected this in an earlier post I just want to know who you consider credible?

>>133020396
Or just voter ID laws. We need IDs to drive, drink, smoke, social security (which is just an unofficial universal ID, really) and so forth. Might as well add one for voting. Fuck politicians who say it's discriminatory. Only people who know full well voter fraud exist actually defend no ID laws.

>>133020396
I think the scantrons should be the standard. If they think there is an anomaly they can recount it by hand.

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>>133020286
>don't you have an appointment to go provide german women for refugees rape so they can be culturally enriched?

Show me the way.

>>133017030
Russians are literally bro tier you faggot.

>>133020774
Actual evidence. I would believe CNN or MSNBC if they didn't use "anonymous sources". Credible evidence. Shit, I'd believe regular NBC or ABC if they didn't site anonymous sources and use actual evidence

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>>133019899

>>133016234
pretty sure he trolling

>>133020972
Ok so again, clarify- do you think that news agencies are simply lying about what US intelligence agencies have said? Does the FBI have "evidence" or do they have nothing and are just saying "Russia did it"

>>133020689
they probably are, however seeing as the US is the most high-tech in terms of military (Japan only beating them in social aspects), the US would know well before the election if Russia was actually able to do anything to their systems. And if they did, the US was either complicit under Obama, Obama ordered it, or Obama somehow didn't know parts of the deep state were hacking the elections. Either way, russian didn't change a damn thing in the elections if it did hack it other than setting the truth free.

>>133016345
No shit, those are two entirely different issues.

Trump is a 70 year old man who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and Putin is happy to exploit his stupidity to promote Russian interests.

If Putin wants to work with Trump maybe they should start hammering out an extradition treaty.

>>133017299
>Attacks

Seth Rich LEAKED the information. There was no attack.

>>133017030
Our nukes and their nukes can hit a target in any region of the world. They aren't pointed at each other. Only 70 years ago, the US and the Japanese were at war and both cultures literally despised each other and thought the other was subhuman and that's not an exaggeration. Yet now they're one of our closest allies. Not to say Russia can be our close ally but trying to improve relations with them isn't a bad thing.

>>133020911
we have a nigger problem. they killed themselves in record numbers. you have a growing islam problem who are killing you more than they kill themselves. enjoy sharia while we allow nogs to exterminate themselves here until only the black folks (non niggers) are let to be prosperous civilzed people

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>>133021449
>we have a nigger problem

So true.

>>133016234
Welcome to the internet this is what is called a "shitpost" it is meant to rustle your jimmies and it appears that it has in this case

>>133021624
that shows a beaner problem. beaners usually work hard but have too many kids and think that mexico is somehow better than america. so when america does die, it will be beaners fault. at least they'll extinguish the niggers and we'll move to australia where coloreds will eventually be banned and it will become the most advanced civilization ever

>>133021294
How you can claim that the U.S. is already impenetrable technologically? What is the point of Trumps message here? 3D chess? a cover for more important forms of cooperation? What form would that be? We dont know, just go with it? Anything he tweets is to be considered misinformation?

"Hacking the election" isnt changing votes, I wish that term would be put to bed. It means deliberate intrusions into communications from one party and local voter registries etc. Why would Obama condoned the hack or order it when it results in Hillary losing?

>>133017670
You're what's called a "cuckservative", nothing but a neo-con globalist shill, now go back to the "Reagan battalion" or wherever you came from.

>>133022061
its not impenetrable, it simply knows when its being penetrated. Example: A drunk girl passed out has no idea if and when a dick was inside her other than some symptoms. A drugged chick that is still conscious realizes when the dick is inside her while being raped and can at least do something about it afterwords

>>133022457
So...did Obama give it the OK or not? Or James Comey was doing it the whole time? Let's say that's more or less true it was "deep state" op-why would they want to undermine Clinton when Trump is the real threat to the deep state, or so you seem to think?

>>133016951
yup. some people need killing. especially soros/rothschild funded traitors.

Putin did nothing wrong!

Well, it is possible to make software that doesn't have security flaws, by developing the software in a theorem prover and proving the security properties...

It's extremely time consuming, but there have been programs which produced
- A formally verified microkernel (SeL4)
- A formally verified C compiler
- A formally verified mail server
amongst other things..

We're not at the point yet where we can deploy an entire formally verified OS/server stack, but it's getting there.

>>133018255
Checked & agree

>>133021624
>blacks only 13% of the population
>somehow the most important lobby in politics after (((them)))
this is something that absolutely amazes me
why are the hispanics so unimportant (in comparison) ?

>>133016234
>cyber security unit
America will buy Kaspersky anti virus.

>>133018280
That's like saying Trump is responsible for all the killings in the USA because he's the leader.

Or, that random killings NEVER happen in Russia...

>>133017030
Even assuming that there are Russian hackers attacking the us, who's to say they're not Russian neets in their basement?

>>133017670
>Have you heard of the cold war?
Yeah, it ended more than a quarter century ago.

>>133023793
This is my point, you wouldn't be nearly so charitable with who you pin these murders on if the same thing was happening in a country led by someone you disliked politically. Especially Clinton.

>>133017670
We should never work with Germany. Have you heard of WW2?

>>133021281
So the FBI said putin killed journalists?

>>133016234
ITT: What is strategy? What is influence? Why would we want to work with the most adept hackers in the world? Why wouldn't we just keep an adversarial relationship that has never worked?

Jesus Christ, bunch of Neoconservative dumbfucks in this thread.

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>>133016234
it is a retarded idea
unless by
>cyber security unit
he means signing agreements that benefit each other in regards to cyber security
but if he plans to let any Russians have access to our security systems than that's just retarded
but he's just the President he isn't directly in charge of security (let alone cyber security) and will float this by the people who are and see what they think
he just said what he thought is a good idea because he's an old man and doesn't really understand computers

>>133024629
?

>>133016234
>cyber police mem
Is he really /oneofus/

>>133016951
Same reason we love Trump.
Alpha AF

>>133021281
The issue with anonymous sources is that half the time it's fucking hearsay and the other is it being a half truth that requires massive amounts of twisting to come to the result they got and no one gets in trouble for the end result. All it takes is one person saying one thing from the FBI for them to run with it.

>>133021281
Three agencies and one political appointee said "we have reason to suspect they may have", and the news agencies said 17 said they absolutely did. You figure it out.

>>133026379
No agency has issued a refutation. There is no dissenting opinion on the matter.

Hackers will never be stopped desu

>>133016234
2 choices
>we can constantly try to outhack each other
>We can communicate and hack each other less often and discover outside attacks quicker

We can try B and if it doesn't work we can go back to A

>>133019418
>>133021373
That's their excuse for linking it to the DNC only to maake the RNC took untouched, attacks are happening continuously and especially during election time because that's when the "black market" is the hottest for blackmail material or sensitive info. The RNC was under attacked too but they obviously had defense just like the DNC but they had Podesta and other illegal and even classified info on their DNC servers

>>133023078
>have a formally verified OS
>but people is still lazy and stupid

yeah so its useless

>>133021447
Thank you, person with classified nuclear military knowledge

>>133018665
As someone who works in IT it's depressing watching everyone whip themselves up in a hysteria over phishing. The CIA leaks show how formidable American hacking skills are, but also how weak our data security is. The sad fact is that Democrats only screech about Russia because they fell for a phishing attack, but how many Americans had their identities stolen?

>>133024225
The Clinton Cabal is well known world wide for their murders & cover ups.

WikiLeaks has shown us what the CIA is capable of. ie. Making hacking attempts seemingly originate from an country the hacker picks.

Putin/Russia may not be the most idyllic of Nations or governments. However, having them as in informal ally is much better than having them a sworn enemy & starting WW3. The more peaceful the relations are between all countries, the better the world will be.

The move to bring peace to the world has to be started somewhere. It won't be done over night. It will be made one step at a time. Any slight push that gets the ball rolling for peace is a good thing.

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>>133016234
Nice try CNN.

>let's get our security system built by literally our biggest adversary

>>133027657
Most common password:

p@ssw0rd

>>133018280
Wait do you not understand what demographic you're talking to here? With Hillary it's not that we hate her on some specific kill index regarding journalists, we HATE her because of many specific kill indexes regarding so much shit she touches. The globalists (HRC included) have revealed themselves to be nothing above vile regarding what they will do for their agenda.
If a Russian oligarch sees the classic enemy of my enemy situation the current American-Russian political sphere is showcasing with our shared enemy being the globalists, who cares if he's a strongman in his own turf. If it means keeping HRC and the evil that comes with her out of office and cut off from spreading their tendrils, then I'll let my funny American businessman grow guardedly chummy with former KGB Russian oligarch and not worry about it too much, as my attention lies at home with traitors first.

>>133027913
>biggest adversary
China is the biggest adversary. Coincidentally, China is also Russias biggest adversary.

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>>133016951
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>>133016234
>so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded...
He should have changed "guarded" to "guaranteed"

>>133017030
The end of tensions has to start somewhere. Cooperation is the first step. A US/Russian alliance is very desirable.

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>>133028407
how come everyone if ok with RT but CNN is major propoganda fucktards?

That's not how computers and "cyber" security work. Policy makers just don't get it because they don't know jack shit about computers.

This has been a problem from day one but there's still no good system for making it work other than voluntarism for compatibility purposes. If you want to be secure air gap your computers and write all your own code from the BIOS up.

>>133028390
China's biggest adversary are elevators that don't fall apart and eat you alive when you step onto them. China is a shithole

>>133017030
russia is not more authoritarian than usa

>>133028946
Stay butthurt CNN. Fraud news is garbage. At least RT is mostly neutral except on Russia. Same way Al Jazeera is mostly neutral except on the Middle East.

>>133017030
USA is objectively more authoritarian than Russian Federation

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>>133016951
This is literally fake news. Whenever a journalist dies for ANY reason in Russia, the western shitlib press cover it as an FSB hit personally ordered by Putin. The fact that there's never any evidence for this is itself cited as "proof", i.e. that only the FSB could pull it off so professionally as to leave no trace and make it look like something else.

>>133016234
A system can be objectively secure.

Imagine that Trump and Putin were cooperating on designing a physically almost impenetrable storage box. Why presume that the result will be worse than if one party worked on it alone?

>>133030366
>Why presume that the result will be worse than if one party worked on it alone?
Because with two parties the problem of motive comes in. If the box is supposed to be perfectly secure to everyone, and things of value will be stored in it, then building in vulnerabilities known only to one party is motivated behavior, TO BOTH SIDES.

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>>133026635
Yeah but it was pretty weak, especially given that none of them were allowed to examine the server. The NSA are the experts in this area, and all they would say was that it was "possible" Russia was somehow involved with the DNC wikileaks. Not much to start Cold War 2.0 over.

>>133016234
It is a retarded idea. We shouldn't even be forming a cyber security unit with our "allies"

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Look what happened in Brazil. It's a damn good idea

>>133030705
wtf I hate cooperation now

>>133016951
>reporters

You mean partisan corporate mercenaries.

Fuck 'em.

>>133022910
therein lies the issue, who the fuck knows

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>>133016234
IDS HAPPENING

>>133016234
>i'm conservative as hell
Yep, that's a shill. Your tactics are so transparent, kike, it's just not going to work.

>>133016234
>reeeeeeee trump hasn't been stopped from cooperating with Putin even despite all the deep state REEEEEEEing
lol I told you faggots that you wouldn't stop him

>>133029024
Also your own chips.

>>133017030
>Russia is a formerly communist, currently authoritarian rival is the US and not our friends in any sense. We have nukes pointed at each other.

We also share a space station

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>>133016951
>So is /pol/ comfortable
hold on... i'll ask him..

>>133016234
>I'm conservative as hell but this seems ludicrous
fuck off

>>133028758
A US/Russian alliance is very desirable
one could say its inevitable

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>>133016234
This is bait and you're a shill.
If you actually are a "conservative" you would have given a cohesive explanation as to why you feel this way. However you're a shill so you just made up some bogus bs to make your anti-Trump rhetoric sound like it isn't coming directly from the horse's ass.
>gif related

>>133016234
Can't hack if u already know all the info

>>133017950
>See, anything appears reasonable when the alternative is sufficiently exaggerated

But it wasn't exaggerated, Hillary flatly stated she would have imposed a no-fly zone and shot down Russian planes, causing war.

>>133021318
remember he is and will always be your president

>>133038281
the whole russia charade was meant to unseat Trump, but a secondary objective was to prevent him having a detente with russia too

good to see that idiot plan failed on both fronts

>>133016234
Trump means he is is going to team up with Putin to go on a twitter bender and post hilarious memes all night trolling the normies.

>>133016234
HE WILL CREATE THE CYBER POLICE

WE DUN GOOFED

CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

>>133020271
Then why haven't they let the FBI investigated their systems if that's the so-called smoking gun?

>>133039505
Yeah I think the media and globalist power structure really lost their temper when Trump dared to shake hands and be civil to Putin at the G20 meeting. There was non-stop fake news to try to downplay the exchange. They lied about the Polish woman snubbing Trumps handshake. They lied about Merkel rolling her eyes at Putin. They launched a global media campaign at the end of the event depicting Trump as isolated and that America is now being left out of world affairs. It was all a desperate attempt to say "You call us fake news? We will bury you" and the reason for this rage is because the system doesn't want America to have good relations with Russia.

>>133016234

ya its called blockchain, jesus who hires these fucktards?

>>133016234
lol it is an obvious troll attempt. It would be used to ensure that democrats can't vote fraud anymore, which be obviously mean eternal electoral disaster for democrats.

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>liberals are now the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists
What a time to be alive.

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>>133021318
this

I honestly figured they would have made orange juice by now.

>>133018280
Seth Rich, Vince Foster, etc etc

Or is it only bad when Russia does it?

>>133016234
Trump just wants to promote his business interests in Russia. Why do liberals give him such a hard time over this? He is just a guy trying do what's best for his businesses.

>>133016234
>has never heard of "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
Also, Israel harmfully hacks us more than Russia.

Joining with enemy #2 to fight enemy #1 is not a terrible idea

>>133017473
>Barron's good with cyber
Expert

>>133016951
Hey, idiot. I don't go calling Obama a journalist killer. There is more substantial evidence that he (Michael Hasting) did compared to Putin, but it is still circumstantial.

>>133016234
HoLy WhItE AlLiAnCe

>>133027332
>Our nukes can hit anywhere
>Classified military knowledge
Just how dumb are you?

>>133016234
>Not even trolling

You might not be, but Trump definitely is.

Russia would be a much better ally than Israel. The US should abandon all ties with Israel.

>>133017670
It's not a strawman because no OP argument was even given. It was just a paraphrase of "DO I REALLY HAVE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF!?"

>>133016234
/pol/ loves Putin, didn't you know

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>>133017166
>trying to stop election hacking
>with the people who hacked you
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