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>UK-US trade deal to happen quickly, says Trump
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40540340

>Labour try to resolve the ongoing de-selection row
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40533172

>Opposition and backbench Tory MPs to seek amendments to (aka disrupt) the Repeal Bill
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40529764

>Thousands join Pride parade in London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40531136

>Another Royal Wedding may be on the cards, as Prince Harry apparently to propose to his gf imminently
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/prince-harry-planning-propose-girlfriend-10759843

>King's College London considers opening a European campus in Dresden
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-40532060

>Theresa May says plan to build Thatcher statue should go ahead, despite vandalism fears
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40529770

>Cornish terror group claims it has a would-be suicide bomber in its ranks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4677520/Cornish-terror-group-says-SUICIDE-attacker.html
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Did they catch the person who did the pakemon thing?
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Brexit is cancelled
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good afternoon senpais...
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>>132981480
>jeremy corbyn is the actual leader of the actual labour party and actually has a higher poll rating than the conservatives
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Don't give up lads.
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>>132981570
But what will May and Clarkson do without him?
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>>132981563
I'm happy knowing if he ever gets into power, his electorate will suffer unimaginably.
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>>132981677
Oh God the new top gear (grand tour) is absolute crap
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>>132981889
>joining honeypot organisations
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i haven't posted in brit/pol for 2 weeks, i've also not been watching the nigel farage show

what have i missed lads?
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Can someone redpill me on Brexit? Is it happening or not?
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>>132982082
Yeah it could well be a honey pot. I don't know, I'm not a member myself, the guy was just asking a question. I do feel like eventually we're going to have to do something outside of our mothers basements though.
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>>132982149
>I do feel like eventually we're going to have to do something outside of our mothers basements though.
LARPing.
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>>132982149
I don't think anything can be done. People with any hope just seem like total newfags desu, n-no offence.
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>>132982147

it's happening, our media cycle is just dominated by butthurt remainains clinging onto false hope. if they don't do it there will be a full scale war and a million Tommy Mair's will activate and march on London
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>>132982149
fuck off MI5 nonce
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>>132982341
>it's happening,
LARPing.
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It's an engineering and technical problem to be create secure platforms for people to organise who ultimately all don't trust each other and are scared of being outed/doxed/infiltrated. You basically need things to be pseudonymous and bring reputation into things. No system will be completely free from infiltration, but you can do a lot better than what we have right now i.e. nothing.

>>132982429

Was Article 50 not triggered or something? Fuck off.
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>>132982312
I've been here longer than I would care to admit friend.
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>>132982459
>A.50
>meaning anything
Lel
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>>132981733

Yeah the difference is that the Tories say the opposite but still do this.
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>>132982147
see >>132981476
and >>132982271
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>>132982235
>>132982367
I guess UKIP was larping too when Farage started it 15 years before serious discussions about leaving the EU became mainstream? you are an actual idiot.

>inb4 brexit is larping hurr durr im so smart its not gonna change anything
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Someone is defacing Mogg's wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg
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>>132982533

Please expound on your point. Are you saying that the EU will go against its own rules? Do you think that would help its public image or not?
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>>132982533
Also still no word on if we will remain part of the European arrest warrant area, which is huge in regards to sovereignty.
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>>132982083
/pol/eague is happening and last I checked we drew with /ptg/
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x8v3Nr_wel0

>Muslim only housing in London
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>>132982718
I'd imagine so, sovereignty doesn't exist in the weat any more.
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>>132981733
this. I'm beyond caring . fuck them I want to see these cunts suffer
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>>132982714
Well leave a few headline treaties so that the Sun can have its headline and all the retards (you) can clap and parliament can continue legislating based on EU code and international law.
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>>132982083
Tripfags competing to be the new YMCA

Who will be the first to be bullied out of here?
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God UKIP is fucking pathetic sometimes, look at how they're all lining up to criticise AMW.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ukip-mep-jonathan-arnott-signals-13296205

She's speaking the truth and these cunts are too cowardly to admit it, they just don't want their gravy train to end.
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>>132982854

But the source of the authority of that law will not be the EU though, will it? It will be EU law being enforced by the UK parliament and we will no longer pay the EU or be subject to their discretions. So how is that not leaving?
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>>132982771
My god He's such a queer
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>>132982930

If Waters wins I think she is still going to have to counter-signal against explicitly "far-right" groups sadly, but this is probably needed if they're going to break through
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Has Hannan become an ethnonationalist?
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>>132982951
We have thousands of primary acts derived in foreign code and a parliament with no will to change that. HRA is an obvious and we'll known example.
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>>132982951
Both Labour and the Conservatives have declared their support for what is effectively open border migration for many years to come even after the EU, even if we do get any powers over EU migration back, you would be seriously mistaken to think we would bother using them, given past governments record on controlling non-EU migration. Sovereignty is pointless if you are just going to have open borders anyway. Net migration in is in the high 200k range if not higher, and that is just net, you also have to take into consideration the hundreds of thousands of brits leaving the country. With such a porous border there is almost no point in it being there.
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>There's mongs in this thread who think a washed up carpetmuncher former labour candidate affiliated with an iranian socialist party who comes across thick as fuck and has zero charisma, intellect or wit can somehow do better than Farage because she talks about muh islam oppressing gays and women

top fucking kek, bet you still watch Milo Yiannopoulos as well.

gas yourselves
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>>132981485
Post MORE cute girls
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>>132982930
UKIP was always a bit of a joke party. Infighting followed by a fade into obscurity was always going to be the end result.
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>>132983128
How is this worth commenting on? I thought racism was dead
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>>132983187

>TV

russian emigrant

>DNA

swiss

>parliament

hmm, ancient greeks and romans
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>>132983138

It's an absolute joke that they even say things like Pen is 'far right' and Pegida is 'fascist'. Do they even know what those terms mean? How the fuck anyone can describe an organisation which wants a manageable immigration policy as fascist is beyond me.

We really have turned into a parody where nationalising the trains is Stalinist and reducing migration is comparable to Nazism.
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LORDS
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>>132983260
have a rare (You) as well as a (You)
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>>132983197

You are now shifting the goalposts, you originally claimed we will not leave the EU, now you are claiming we will but that we are still ruled by weak liberals. This is true, but not what you originally said.

>>132983232

Not what the argument was about. He was saying we will not leave the EU.
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>>132983312
Fascism is not a set of political policy, it is a system of government.
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>>132983275
>(((Infighting)))
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>>132983187
Hopefully
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>I recall clearly from almost 50 years ago the nightly sing-song promotions on our newly activated 625-line TV set: ‘This is the Year of the Sex Olympics! Sex Olympics Year!’ They were plugging a BBC2 play by Quatermass author Nigel Kneale, about a future world in which the masses are passive watchers, manipulated and kept under control by a small, cynical minority. In this hell, people watch sex, but don’t do it. This was 1968, peak Sixties, before people started to pull back a bit. Almost everything was possible. But sex on TV? No. A ludicrous joke.
>But 49 years on, we have it, in the form of Love Island. Yes, I’ve watched it. Once. No, I won’t do it again. It’s not the sex that puts me off so much as the moronic dialogue, as if centuries of literature, poetry and culture had never happened, and in the richest society in history, we are forgetting how to speak.
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>>132982930
They are a single issue party that won, what do you expect to happen?
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>>132983275

Well they had 10% of the vote in 2015, their recent fade into obscurity is because they're being absorbed by the establishment. Now they have a few seats in the EU parliament they want to play it safe and keep their jobs.

The membership and the MEP's are on totally different wave lengths, I've heard a lot of them don't even talk to the party members anymore, they're too far on the gravy train in Brussels.
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>>132983352
>Not what the argument was about. He was saying we will not leave the EU.
If we still let in hundreds of thousands of their citizens into the country, and our citizens can be dragged before a foreign court, then we haven't really left it have we.
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>>132983352
>law finds authority in EU code and not the sovereign
>we have left the EU
Pick one.
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>>132983405
I can't pick it but there's something deeply disturbing about his face. His profile just doesn't look right, it's almost uncanny valley territory.
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>>132982083
I keep forgetting Farage has a show, is it all on Youtube?
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>>132983275
Honestly now, was UKIP even REALLY a functioning party?

It was really just a vehicle for Farage to get his vote. Now that this has happened, the party is literally without a reason to exist.
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>>132983128
WE

>>132981485
>>132982082
>>132982312
Oh look its the worst girl poster.
Honoka is shit, SHIT.
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>>132983454

I expect that they grow some balls and move onto the next issue of our time, Islam rather than riding UKIP into the sunset and lining their pockets until 2019.
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Of course we are leaving. Article 50 can't be stopped or paused. Every second that passes is one second closer to freedom. It can only be stopped by the unanimous agreement of every single EU state and both houses of Parliament.

Most Conservative MPs (especially the new lot), the DUP and the hard left of Labour are all for leave.
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>>132981345
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>>132983244
checked
Farage uber alles
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>>132983559
>rather than riding UKIP into the sunset and lining their pockets until 2019.
You don't know much about politicians do you?
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>>132983488

The authority *is* from the sovereign and not the EU, even if it is EU law it is temporarily upholding, you pedantic fucking cretin. Stop arguing these utterly meaningless points. We both agree and yet you are still making these infuriating petty points.

>>132983484

>dragged before a foreign court

How so?

And yes, we have. Our politicians cannot say the EU is forcing them to act in a certain way now, they are the final stop and must be responsible. They cannot pass the buck to the EU. Is that not a modicum of progress? Why are you all so blackpilled? I'm sick of you.
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>>132983576
>Most Conservative MPs (especially the new lot), the DUP and the hard left of Labour are all for leave.
Never stop posting anonymong, you're the reason I come here.
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>>132983478
They framed themselves as a one issue party throughout their entire existence, after the Brexit vote they were doomed. They're far too Thatcherite to build a proper base among the working class.
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>>132983576
Hahahahahhahahah
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>>132983545
>makifags
could you BE any more of a pleb?
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Quality of tripfags in here is absolutely dire, even for Brit/pol/ standards.
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>>132983539
Exactly.
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Feeling crushingly depressed and thoroughly un-comfy lads.
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>>132983665
>How so?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Arrest_Warrant
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Had a threesome with my girlfriend and her best mate Friday night. Fucking awesome.
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>>132983658

It's more complex than that.

They are destroying the party, even the most self serving Labour of Tory MP would have a shred of respect for the party and wish to see it continue. They're not even politicians anymore, they're mercenaries.
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>>132983577
>britain leaves eu
>germany goes reich mode
>deploys mechagodzilla

You have to hand it to Merkel, she achieved what Hitler failed to do, Germany running europe
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>>132983737
Go out for a walk.

Really, take a drink, put on your shoes and go for a walk for an hour, in the countryside if it's near enough.
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>>132983665
If the primary legislation of an SI or other secondary legislation is an act or code of the EU it does not derive authority from the Sovereign. Our ultimate source of law is Parliament and they legislate based on EU code then we are not a sovereign state and we have only left the EU in name alone.
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>>132983727
Are any of the old lads still around?
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>>132983737
What's wrong chap?
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>>132983727
You should be grateful to be in our presence.
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>>132983704

They're have a future because they are the only party that offers a reduction in migration.
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>>132983577
>No facists commiting hate-crimes in the streets
You had one job, hans.

>>132983708
>literally likes the worst girl
>calling someone else a pleb
are you ok there lad?
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>>132983323
Thanks la'
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>>132983785
Why did you enjoy watching another bloke fuck your gf?
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UKIP may as well have a use other than being a dead husk of a party, half its voter base gone to fucking Labour.

It'll be more useful than Farridge pissing about in the US getting his balls massaged on Fox News.
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>>132983737
dying-county-blues?
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>>132983750

the US can still put in for extraditions of UK citizens too though

>>132983797

You have absolutely no idea what sovereignty means.

>>132983803

Nope, just me if you remember me. Everybody else is on /brit/ over on the other chan and have been for years.
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>>132983869
It was a female friend you silly nob.
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>>132983708
Hi, please take that flag off, it's disrespectful to this thread. Thanks.
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>>132983825
see
>>132983906
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>>132983897

Exactly, Farage is guilty of the gravy train as well. Now he gets paid millions to give Trump reach-arounds he's gone soft.
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>>132983912
Sovereignty is the ability to implement or rescind laws without being bound.
Sovereign nations don't exist in the West.
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>>132983927
pics or it didn't happen.
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>>132983949
lul
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>>132983949
And yours isn't? You're just as much of an attention seeker
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>>132983987

Indeed, because we are under US suzerainty. But if you're implementing somebody else's law it doesn't make them sovereign because they can't stop you from changing it at some point. You're just engaging in petty rhetorical pedantry.
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>>132983793
Countryside is a bit away. I live in a suburbs of copy pasted houses. More and more minorities are moving in. The area will soon become a wasteland.
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>>132983991
Why the fuck would I have pics? Oh yeah I'll grab a camera just as they're both sucking on my dick. Fuck that I like to stay in the moment.
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>>132983967
there's no solution that i can think of
maybe you could write a childrens books series and redpill the next gen and start placing them in public libraries
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>>132983949
>my race is all I have
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>>132983967
>We used to rule the world
>We used to rule India with pretty much just one brit on a bike

>Now London isn't even a British city anymore
>Marrage is pretty mcuh just a detrememnt
>You dont see many traditional families anymore
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Where's the best place to aquire puppers lads.
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>>132983897
>expecting single issue parties to persist after their single issue has been resolved
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>>132983833
It doesn't matter, they have the least workable combination of policies right now for a European audience. Liberal economics is pretty much antithetical to migration controls and yet they're trying to balance the two. Parties on the continent like FN perform much better because they take protectionist (and somewhat socialist) economics and pair it with nationalism, this is the correct combination to appeal to the working class, and essentially everyone but the working class is never going to vote for a party that can be perceived as 'racist'.
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>>132984079
Where do you live anon? Can't you move somewhere else?
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Is worth buying a 7ft barbell with some plates for home use ?
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Get ready for some madness on the news.
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>>132984095
don't engage the ones with names
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>>132984106
>My sexuality is all I have
typical faggot

>>132984008
>>132983998
>being gay is fine
>being a white nationalist is somehow bad or equal to having other mens cocks up your fat arse

the absolute state of this shithole
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>>132984180
A short walk outside of Birmingham. I can't move anywhere until I've finished uni, after that I'm going to do my masters somewhere else, I'm looking to get a 1st so my options should be open.
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>>132983128

>White guy gets a job
>Nobody gives a shit
>Black guy gets a job
>Instant media attention
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>>132984177
>Liberal economics is pretty much antithetical to migration controls

mfw
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>>132984254
Truth be told you and worst girl poster are both attention seeking faggots. Fly the colours or fuck off.
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>>132984177

That is what AMW is proposing.

She supports the welfare state, she was a Labour candidate 10 years ago., she actually even worked for the NHS.

This is why she is the only chance this party has of continuing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33OxwPg6mnw
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>>132984069
I never claimed the EU was our sovereign, I was claiming we aren't sovereign over our own law while primary legislation isn't our own. If we still follow for example, the HRA, it finds it's authority in code not legislated on by our parliament and any changes made our therefore of direct influence upon or state. Obviously the HRA is high profile and may be altered, despite a lack of will to do so by the legislator, but what about the thousands upon thousands of other less interesting less noteworthy less headline grabbing secondary legislation that are in place? Very few who know about them (legislator) want to remove them.
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>>132984254
No, being an attention seeking faggot who has a problem with other kinds of faggots on a Taiwanese fishing board is.

If you are going to have a problem with the flags, stop using them. You haven't got a single leg to stand on in this argument.

You're obviously overly aware of your own flag too, otherwise you wouldn't have brought up the problem with his.
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>>132984268
Good. Make sure you get out as soon as possible. I live 10 miles north of Rotherham and I'm planning on leaving asap.
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>>132984079
Holy shit I live there
A D D O
D
D
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>>132984329
I just like how the celtic cross looks, lel

>wanting to have a british flag on when our state endorses the rape and exploitation of white underaged girls, our parliament is full of pedos and we're probably the most globalized nation in europe

Union jack sucks dick now, it stands for tolerance and diversity.
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>>132984306
>Black guy gets a job
>Instant media attention
To be fair, that is an extremely rare occurrence.
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>>132984440
See? You are a faggot.
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why is everyone name-fagging? what the fuck is going on?
>>132984309 your name is not augustus, so you must know that the name field isn't compulsory, what reason do you have to larp as a roman Caesar in britpol?
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>>132984440
who could it be?
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>>132984359
That may be the case, but I'm not convinced she'll win, and if she loses, the party is doomed as you say.
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>>132984309
Not indicative of typical liberal thought.
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>>132984388
I don't have a problem with custom flags. I have a problem with fucking benders.
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>>132984383
>I was claiming we aren't sovereign over our own law while primary legislation isn't our own

And this is an incredibly stupid thing to claim because it's not true and is only true if you don't understand what sovereignty means.

>it finds it's authority in code not legislated on by our parliament

No, it finds its authority in the fact that our parliament AKA the sovereign is upholding it.
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Owen Jones wants to poz the entire United KIngdom
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>>132984517
>>132984525
>no counterarguments

Our state, its royalty and its government all endorse white genocide. Please prove me wrong.
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>>132984440

>not wanting to make are jack something we can all be proud of again
>surrendering it this easily

You are the fucking problem, neck yourself.
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>>132984523

DVD showed up and I wanted to say hi. I haven't seen him here in a few years. If my trip is annoying to you please filter me.
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>>132984628
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>>132984627
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>>132984542

Well it's this or death so our options are somewhat limited.

I think she has a good chance of winning, but it's a Corbyn scenario. The party members love her but the MEP's and officials are trying to frustrate and cheat her.
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>>132984595
>foreign code legislated on by a foreign source can alter national laws
>a sovereign state
Pick one.
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>>132984756
>>foreign code legislated on by a foreign source can alter national laws

Who is upholding the law? Who can prevent them from changing it?
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Want to get into archery lads, where do I start?
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>>132984628
I'm not having a reasoned debate over the use of flags in a general thread on a forum lmao

Yeah, good work there Adolf, ridding the world of online rainbow flags one anonymous post at a time
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>>132984819
The legislator who has no will to alter EU primacy over parliamentary statute because we're retards who didn't vote in pro-brexit MP's and held a referendum instead.
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>>132984833
Join a local club if you have one. They'll let you try bows out so you know what size and weight you should get when you buy your own.
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>>132984833
Airpistol>Air rifle> Archery
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>>132984926

Sovereignty isn't about will, mate. Just because they don't have the will to change it doesn't mean they can't. They can and they can also be voted out and replaced by people who can change it too. Is that not a better situation than people being unable to change it even if they wanted to or are you still clinging to your miserable blackpills?
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>>132984694
I looked over on Freddit and opening a thread makes my browser go apeshit. Still plenty of people complaning about Cuckchan kek
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>>132985115
You're waffling bollocks now mate, you claim a nation is sovereign not if they practice as a sovereign state, but only if they have he ability to become a sovereign state. So by your retarded logic, we were sovereign as members of the EU because A.50 allows us to leave.
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MOSUL CAPTURED

Iraqi PM to arrive in Mosul to declare Victory over ISIS in Mosul
>Iraqi PM to arrive in Mosul to declare Victory over ISIS in Mosul
Iraqi PM to arrive in Mosul to declare Victory over ISIS in Mosul
>Iraqi PM to arrive in Mosul to declare Victory over ISIS in Mosul
Iraqi PM to arrive in Mosul to declare Victory over ISIS in Mosul
>Iraqi PM to arrive in Mosul to declare Victory over ISIS in Mosul
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>>132984995
Air rifles have a legally limited FPS, compound bows and xbows don't.
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>>132985289

No, Article 50 allowed us to exit. Without exiting our executive was constrained by EU limits on sovereignty. Now they are not. And even though our civil service and commons is filled with liberal faggots doesn't change the fact that if they magically wanted to implement a fucking Reich, nobody could actually stop them.
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>>132984979

Cheers lad, this place is pretty near me so I'm going to go along and see what's what and what I can do with my pittance of a budget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja8cvb2AhIk

>>132984995
Where do you even get an air rifle / pistol from? Everyone I remember having one when I was a kid seemed to have had it passed down from an uncle or something.
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>>132985360
Woohoo, we removed a tumour! Now we only have to worry about the malignant cancer "cells" that have surely dispersed throughout all of Europe, for generations to come!
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>>132985289
I thought you were meant to have topped yourself. Yet like the lingering smell from a clogged drain, you are back...
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Sir Vince Cable today predicted Brexit might not happen as he prepares to seize the Liberal Democrat leadership.

'People will realise we did not vote to be poorer. The question of continued membership will once again arise.

'A lot of people are keeping their heads down - I am beginning to think that Brexit might never happen.'

---------------


One thing I thank Cable for is beating uber cuckservative Tory Tania Matthis in the latest election. One of the biggest cuckservatives removed from the Tory benches.
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>>132983737
Chin up m8. I find intense exercise helps when I'm feeling down. I know it's hard to motivate yourself to do anything when you're depressed though, not going to pretend I've had it that bad. Hope it gets better for you
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>>132985515
Wait... did you just try and argue that I'm wrong by saying A.50 allows us to leave by correcting it to exit?
The fuck?
I'm not normally in the business of adding triplords to the daily BTFO tally, but I think I may need to make an exception for you.
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>>132983299
The Television as we know it today was invented by an American called Filo T. Farnsworth.

DNA was discovered by two men from England
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>>132985360
Does it even matter? If ISIS are destroyed in their homeland then we're still left with hundreds of thousands of jihadists in Europe, what happens then? Not to mention, another terrorist group will come about eventually to fill up the vacuum of ISIS.
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>>132981345
>Canada wants a trade deal
>Australia wants a trade deal
>America wants a "very big, very powerful" trade deal
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>>132984202

Depends on how dedicated you are and your living conditions. They'll last basically forever if kept out of the rain, but they do take up some space.

If you're tight on space, I'd definitely recommend some kettlebells. Not as good for maximal strength training as barbells, but they do offer a great mix of strength training and conditioning in a very convenient package.
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>>132985569
Hey, now they can mop up the remannts in Iraq and the focus will be placed on Raqqah. And once they fall, the communication lines will disintergrate and the movements within Europe will effectively be cut off at their head.

So this is good news.
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>>132985698
Thanks lad. I've been falling out if my exercise routine for the past few weeks. The heat has been too intense where I am to get any real running done and there aren't any good gyms nearby.
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>>132985710

No, because your brain is basically made of mush and you're confused about a lot of things. You are also arguing against statements I have never made because you can't form coherent sentences or thoughts.
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>>132985775
None of the cunts who attacked the UK in the last few months have any proven direct link with IS command. The victory is nice for Iraq and hopefully can help stabilise the region but the consequences of ISIS will be felt for decades
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>>132985722
China and India want a trade deal too. EU btfo.
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>>132985937
You claimed a state only needs the ability to be sovereign, not practicing sovereignty to be sovereign.
I think you may be retarded.
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How would you balance the budget lads?
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>>132984127
Try a shelter before breeders id say.
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>>132986110
Just print some free cash.
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>>132984127
NSPCA adoption.

Adopt don't shop. Lots of lonely, neglected doggos out there looking for a stable, loving, disciplined home with lots of walkies.
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>>132986044

No, I claimed it needs the ability to be able to change its own law and wield authority without regard for a higher entity in order for it to be sovereign. I did not claim that it needs the ability to be sovereign in order to be sovereign. I am not claiming that potential sovereignty is the same thing as sovereignty, because it isn't.
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>>132984202
Not really unless you get a squat rack too
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>>132986232
Kek

A friend of mine asked me in a private message who I was voting for, I said nobody, and he went 'didn't you know that Corbyn has a costed manifesto?'

I burst out laughing. Costed, yeah, as in, borrow money until the books vaguely look like they work.
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>>132986254
But we don't have that power when active secondary legislation is granted authority by primary EU directives or code.
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>Britain was a frequent supplicant to the IMF in the post-war decades. Loans were obtained under Labour in 1947, 1948, 1965, 1967 and 1969; and under the Conservatives in 1956, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964. Between 1947 and 1971, Britain borrowed more from the IMF, in fact, than any other country.
Yet only the [unnecessary] 1976 IMF loan under Callaghan is remembered, and remembered as a grand national humiliation. Funny how history winds up being remembered.
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>>132986232
What happens if we just printed £20,000 annual allowance for every citizen but removed welfare completely
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>>132986621
That £20,000 becomes next to worthless, all people with savings are fucked, your salary becomes worthless, the economy collapses
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Why doesn't the church stand up for religious values? It seems like they just roll over for every new lefty trend.

The CofE is a joke. Probably as much of a joke (if not more) as the Catholic church.
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>>132986581

And who is preventing that legislation from being overturned? Who has final say? Is it the EU or our legislators?
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>>132986710
They're operating under the belief that if they want to remain relevant then they should change their morals to suit post-modernist values. They have failed to realise that as the church they should be the ones setting the moral standards, not following them.
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>>132986710
It feels that the only way it can retain membership is by being nice and offending as few people as possible, IE, not defending itself from blatant attacks.

it's fucked.
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>>132986110
Gas the retired, the severely disabled, and the long-term unemployed.
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>>132986604
Huh. In my A-Level history textbook literally only 1976 loan was mentioned even though the course covered that whole period.
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>>132986741
Those laws that derive in EU code need to be repealed and new legislation passed. While they are in place the state is not sovereign.
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>>132986830
That's exactly what I thought. They're so desperate to staying relevant, but they destroy their principle purpose by trying to be relevant.
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Geraint Thomas out of the tdf
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>>132986110
You can't. You need to unleash yourself from the system of international finance imo.
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>>132985563
There must be a gun shop within 30 miles of you
There mostly in posh semi rural areas
Alot of fishing shops do airguns as well 3
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>>132986911

>While they are in place the state is not sovereign.

If it's not sovereign, there must be somebody preventing our state from being able to repeal them. Who is that then?
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Just watched the Rochdale grooming gangs documentary on the BBC.

Shed a tear, not going to lie.
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>>132986705
Why? The people that would spend the money would drive the economy and some would save it.
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>>132987023
What's it called? I might watch it tonight, before the thing on migrants and refugees (which is on at 9:30 BBC1 I think lads)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-40548551/police-officer-proposed-to-at-pride-in-london
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TIL COPE's real name is Julius
http://archive.is/RhYYV
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>>132987023
Did you hate the way they used it to bash the "far-right" for "taking advantage"? They weren't, they were just the only ones walking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M

To think, he was right all along and was just made fun by sneering liberal tossers just because he couldn't eloquently explain it.
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>>132987017
Who's prevented them from "leaving" the EU?
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>>132987166
The Betrayed Girls
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>>132987157

P O U N D B U R Y

Not the biggest fan of this 'new' resin pavement that seems to be in fashion at the moment because it seems to age rapidly, but it certainly is leagues ahead of the alternating black and white paving blocks that have taken over modern developments and our town centres. Our settlements look so ugly with this sort of pattern on the ground - it looks absolutely horrid.
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guess what chaps, the army isn't diverse enough

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/09/british-army-is-targeting-working-class-young-people-report-shows
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>>132987166
nothing on today or tomorrow ?
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>>132987352
>unarchived shill https://archive.is/BMxB9
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>>132987295

Nobody, we are leaving. Now answer my question or admit you were wrong.
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>>132981450
How can they when they haven't obtained the Master race ball yet.
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>>132987427
I've said repeatedly that it's the legislator, the legislator was also responsible for triggering A.50, so by your logic being members of the EU is also us operating as a sovereign state.
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>>132987273
>>132987273
Fuck me. Going back and watching this is quite disturbing.

He's clearly on about Muslims bringing sharia law to the UK and rape gangs. I've never seen the full clip in context - he clearly says '15 year olds being raped' after the 'ray guns' part.
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>>132987356
the migrants program is on at 9:30. I expect it to be full of obligatory heartthrob bullshit, but it still looks like an OK piece of journalism. The reporter's down in sicily and places like that that are very affected by refugees, to show what it's actually like.

I just hope it isnt more shite that takes the side of refugees and argues euros need to give them more free shit.
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>>132983478
>UKIP
>Wants to get out of the EU
>Most of their elected membership is in the EU

Does anyone else see the irony here? Party of fucking spivs if you ask me
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>>132987573
>by your logic being members of the EU is also us operating as a sovereign state

How?
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Tour De France on ITV4 is top tier comfy tv.
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>>132987166
It was actually semi based and the made the fact it was Pakistani on white a big part of it
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>>132987273
This guy's smart and he's got sense, he's just not good at explaining himself.
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>>132987352

This doesn't say anything about diversity, just about recruiting the working class.
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>>132981345
What is British Alex Jones like? Is she a slut?
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>>132987679
Think you got the wrong date, i dont see it.
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>>132987788
Nice, I will definitely check that out.

>>132987608
It's not 'ray guns,' it's 'rape gangs,' he's just got a bad slur. But yes, this shit is prophetic looking back on it now. Unbelievable that these opinions are still held in contempt by MSM reporters and culture writers.
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For anyone questioning the testicular fortitude of the TDF riders
https://i.4cdn.org/sp/1499604495700.webm
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>>132987695
Your argument basically boils down to who has authority of where law is derived, not where law is currently derived.
Mine is that where the authority that legislation is made under is the indication of state sovereignty.

The legislator has always held the ability to leave the EU, so therefore under your logic, they have always held authority on deciding where law should be derived but chose to continue under EU legislators.
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>>132987180
The state
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>>132983494
They don't call him "The Mole" for no reason.
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>>132982341
if brexit doesn't happen ima go smash the shit out of a mosque
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>>132987825
So glad he survived the gas chambers
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>>132987829
social diversity m8

>fookin racist
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>>132988040

Sovereignty means you don't have a higher power to refer a decision to. It's the final stop when it comes to authority. Your diseased brain has twisted this definition to mean that a sovereign upholding a law originating somewhere else means that they are somehow not sovereign.

>Mine is that where the authority that legislation is made under is the indication of state sovereignty.

And your definition is objectively incorrect. The source of that legislation's authority is on who is upholding it, not where it came from.

>they have always held authority on deciding where law should be derived

This does not follow at all. When we were in the EU we were not able to decide on lots of things. The fact that we could leave does not mean we were sovereign because our laws were still being referred to the EU.
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>>132987898
Yeah that's strange. I could have sworn it was today but apparently not.
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>>132982771
it's so white people dont move in and report all the terrorists living in the nearby houses coz we all know mudslimes support the terrorists
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>promise end to tuition fees
>people who want to go to uni take the candy
>people who have already racked up fees are like fuckno i just paid 999999 why should the next person get it free?
>this happens

is there anything they wont promise
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>>132988469
Primary legislation is a higher authority. The HRA for example relies on the ECtHR which holds Primacy over parliament.
But you're devolving into adhoms and I'm debating like an adult, so I think we're both off course here.
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>>132981345
When will Jacob Rees Mogg become PM?
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>>132987166
>I might watch it tonight, before the thing on migrants and refugees (which is on at 9:30 BBC1 I think lads)

Why though? Why waste time watching a bbc program you know is going to be nothing but bias propaganda?
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Lads, I've ordered some Jura off Amazon but its coming tomorrow when I'm at my nephew's house for the day. Can I just get my brother to sign it off upon delivery with his name?
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>>132988588
>is there anything they wont promise
No Labour will do/say anything to get into power
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>>132987825
Not a cyclist no, long distance runners are more fit.
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>>132988638
>The HRA for example relies on the ECtHR which holds Primacy over parliament.

Do you understand that the ECtHR can not prevent us from repealing this act and that it would only mean we are not sovereign if they could, which they cannot? Do you understand this?
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>>132988588
The woman is a moron, just watch her here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtbbKyVRoUE
She left school at 16 after becoming pregnant with 0 qualifications and now thinks she should be in charge of schools nationwide.
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>>132987893
She is of Welsh stock and we all know they take dick like champs.
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>>132988724
Might be some low key redpills, also I just want to be more informed even if some of its going to be bogus.
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>>132988775
But the HRA, as a parliamentary statute, delegates powers to the ECtHR.
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>>132988855
fair enough lad. I just avoid anything they put on these days. It just raises my bloodpressure.
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>>132988588
Rayner didn't finish school so it's no surprise the dumb roastie is financially illiterate
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>>132988769
i'm waitin for the next step, where they realise the people who already paid off their student loans wont vote for them now

>labour pledge to pay back any student loans ever paid back
>they estimate it wont cost the taxpayer anything because diane abbott used a calculator this time
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>>132988588

It's hilarious how the same types of people who railed against Trump for being "unqualified" to be president also support an education secretary with no formal educational qualifications. She didn't even finish secondary school and obtain GCSEs.
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>>132988588
literally what the fuck are these promises

this isnt how debt works... you can't just write it all off like it doesn't have value?
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>>132988588
This could easily be done by giving the military a year off.
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>>132988868

So the statute came from parliament, did it? Could it be rescinded by parliament too? Yeah, I guess it could. Almost as if they're sovereign or something, isn't it?
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>>132988774
No fucking way m80, TDF covers of 2000 miles and lasts 3 weeks.
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>>132988945
Yeah that's definitely true. I had to have a cold shower after watching Question Time during the election.
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>>132988588
You know, there really is something about this creature that makes me noticeably angrier than the rest of the incompetent Labour frontbench but I don't really know what it is.

I think it's the fact she looks like that fat YEAH BUT schoolgirl off Little Britain
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>>132989000
>you can't just write it all off like it doesn't have value

Yeah you can
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>>132988994
She doesn't have GCSEs? Jesus christ. I should go into the fucking labour party at this rate.
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>>132985722
if we get a trade deal with china will that mean no more 2 month deliveries
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>>132989085
That's barely 153km in each stage.
The ultramarathon is 100km, on foot, all at once.
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>>132989085
on a peddle bike with down hill sections with no peddling required.
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>>132989203
Yes but not without massive repurcussions.
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>>132989239
And fucking lol just looked it up, some guy ran 450km non-stop over 48 hours. That requires a level of fitness far beyond anything in the tdf.
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>>132981733
Diane Abbott looks like her gob is being invaded by a huge invisible cock!
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>>132983128
>the queen hired a nigger on a horse
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>>132989239
>>132989297
Riders can hit 85mph.
2017 tour is 2200 miles.
Riders burn about 4500 calories per day, that's far, far more than a marathon runner will burn in one race, but that's 4500 calories per day for about 21 days.
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>>132987273
He was raising the issue of systematic child gang rape by Pakistani men at the time when the police were deliberately ignoring girls, blocking investigations 'losing evidence'; when the imams and other leaders in the Muslim community were choosing to ignore it even when given a list of names by the local MP. He may have even known girls who had been gang raped and ignored.

Of course he was completely right. And middle class liberals laughed and mocked him.
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>>132984306
because its a great achivement and step in the right direction for the monarchy to reflect a more diverse modern britain!
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>>132989794
And notice how that reporter struggled to say the word paki, but did not struggle to describe the abuse.
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>>132984306
Man bites dog!
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>>132989770
Running burns more calories than cycling for equal distances and if you actually read the post you'll see that long distance runners travel further than any stage of the TDF. It's not even a competition.
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>>132981733
>Tories are useless
>Labour are worse than useless
>UKIP are alright but will never get into power because the voting system guarantees a two-party state
>Voting system will never be changed by two parties in power because it will damage them
>Two parties can never be changed because the people who vote for the leaders (Tory MPs and Corbynista Lab members) are fanatically loyal
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>>132989770
Total calories burned is a good estimate, but not an accurate measure of how tiring or difficult a given task is bro.

Not to diminish this stuff, but many things are more physically demanding and/or impressive than that and burn less calories.
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>niggers across the street are outside their house and playing music loudly
>they've been doing this for at least the last 3 hours

What do?
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>>132984525
nice merchant
>>132986232
why does he keep posting his huge dildos, I'm sure he won't cook them ?
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>>132989962
>Running burns more calories than cycling for equal distances
That's such a fucking retarded way of looking at it. Cyclists are on the road for a much longer time than runners.
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>>132990002
Gotta wait for a new movement to take the place of UKIP tbqh.
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>>132989357
Like what, good ones?
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>>132990040
call the police, saying some "people" are playing racist music.

they'll be on the scene straight away
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>>132990053
They're not though, read the post. Runners run longer distances that TDF stages.
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>>132989864
Racism is worse than rape in his mind. That's why he refused to run with the story years earlier.

Middle class liberals have a completely different mindset to the working class.
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>>132990080
They'll never come to power either because of said two-party system
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>>132990002
ikr slow death and all
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>>132989070
It came from an EU directive that Parliament was forced to implement to retain EU membership. It's existence is directly counter to national sovereignty.

But to play your retarded logic game:
Sorta like they could leave the EU as well huh? But you said that isn't sovereignty? Oh shit...

Going round in circles now huh,
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>>132990039
Today's stage
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>>132990125
?

>>132990220
There's big societal collapse on the horizon. The old order will be rocked from its foundations. Everything will change.
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>>132989208

That's right, and as some kind of sick joke or something Corbyn made her shadow education secretary. Of all the things he could have given her, he made her the education secretary.

Is Corbyn surrounding himself with his buddies and cronies? I know that he fucked Diane Abbot. Seems like he's practicing cronyism.
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https://archive.is/16g1E

This is awesome.

>>132990255

And who is forcing them to keep it now? Who is impinging on their sovereignty by preventing them from doing this? Who?
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>>132990131
Doesn't matter, cyclists still expend more energy over consecutive days. It is clearly a more difficult sport.
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>>132990372
Irrelevant because they rest and eat between days. Else, by your logic, someone who has been mildly active for years is suddenly the "fittest person".
The fittest person can only be he who expends the most energy in one session, and those people are the long distance runners.
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>>132990324
If all debt was erased, what awful repercussions would there be?
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>>132990370
Are you legitimately retarded?
I've told you repeatedly the legislator, the same legislator with the power to trigger A.50.
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>>132990494
>Irrelevant because they rest and eat between days.
You're kidding right? Those two or three rest days over 2200 miles do not even come close to recharging them.
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>>132990337
That is seriously bizarre. Why isn't this being talked about? I feel like the public should know that this woman is a 100% career politician who didn't even finish her GCSEs before becoming shadow education sec.

Literally wat? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this shit.
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Picachuu didnt do nothing wrong!
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>>132986110
Build a fuckload of houses and sell them. Keep building them and selling them until the property market basically crashes and all the boomers have to actually contribute something or die

Also cut benefits £50 is more than enough for bare essentials - which is all you deserve if you're not working
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>>132990002

Do the Torys select their leader through MP votes alone? No vote by the party membership like labour do?
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>>132990573
If you're taking this approach then it's not Froome at all but Coker, who clocked up over 80k miles in a year.
However you try to slice this, you're wrong.
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>>132990573
Most of them cheat on it, watched the ones that didn't understand CCTV do it all the time.
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>>132990712
By your logic I am at the same as a professional cyclist then because a year or so ago I did over 2k miles in a year.
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>>132990546

So the final say comes from our legislator and not an external entity then, doesn't it? Therefore, sovereignty.
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>>132990534
OK I'm not great at economics but bear with me.

>Cancel student debt
>Effectively erase the value of money that those students spent for a service
>other services react to this naturally by being fearful that the money they are owed is now less valuable, as we're cancelling debts now so everything's on the table
>they get spooked and stop offering services without upfront cash guarantees or on pure transaction basis (no debt transfer)
>suddenly they realise they're going to have to call in their debts if they actually want them paid
>they do this
>nobody can pay for shit
>market crash as purchasing power and debt plummet

Y/N?
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>>132990811
The same legislator that had ultimate say in EU membership, but in your view somehow not sovereignty...
Hmmm...
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>>132990809
You averaged 5 miles a day for the year.
Froome averaged 105 miles a day for only 21 days before he had to give up.
Coker averaged 237 miles a day, for an entire year.

However you look at this you're wrong. Froome isn't even close to being the fittest cyclist, let alone the fittest person.
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>>132990839
Y
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>>132991000
On the days I cycled I mostly did at least 20 miles. Nobody could be this legitimately stupid and still be able to operate a keyboard.
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>>132991181
Are you genuinely this dense? Hilarious.
Whether you consider distance in one sitting or distance over a year, you're wrong.
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>>132991181
Did you end up buying the seat I reccommended?
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>>132991323
Was that the willy void?
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>>132982341

Can confirm, am Mairbot #5255262.
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>>132991269
You have no idea about professional level cycling, none. Marathon runners run for a day or so and then it's over. The TDF is 21 days of hell, even if you only count consecutive days, it's far worse than running.
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>>132991323
Not yet. Am going out tomorrow on a long ride so depending on how I feel after I might buy it.
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>>132990839
Just print more money off out of thin air like we usually do and pay the debts off in one go.
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>>132991405
21 days is fewer than 365 days
105 miles is fewer than 237 miles

Froome is a couch potato compared to Coker.

You only manage 20 miles at a time, I don't know why you're trying to brag about being quadriplegic compared to them.
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>>132991557
237 miles is smaller than 2200 miles.
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>>132991405
You read Loius Armstrong's autobiography?

It's a bit older of a book and we had to read it in high school and even though he swears he never took PEDs in the book it offers a good insight into bike racing
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>>132991632
Coker covered 5000 miles in 3 weeks during any 3 weeks of her year.

She's fitter.
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>>132991718
Not for 4 consecutive years.
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>>132986531
Lots of my friends were banging on about Corbyns fully foster manifesto


Was a good idea for labour to advertise this, it won over a lot of idiots

I told my friends it wasn't fully costed off, that it had no costs for nationalisation, don't think they realised or had a comeback
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I quit female hormones

Can I get praise for beating leftist rhetoric and being a morally hygienic person
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>watching tour de France
>no shitskins riding or in audience
>lots of dicks drawn on the road though

b..but I thought France was infested
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>>132991941
Well done lad.
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>>132991951
you could say the same for tour de yorkshire
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>>132991557
Riding 100miles is like running one marathon a day. It's not that hard.
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>>132991941
Good lad, now start lifting weights and stop masturbating to get those T levels back
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>>132991951
Tour De France and cycling is a famously white sport.
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>>132991906
*fully costed
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>>132991800
She's cycled more than Froome, so she's fitter.
Your ignorance of the human body is actually astounding, that you think a cycle from 12 months can affect you. I'll give you a protip - it only takes about 8 hours for your body to recover from physical activity.
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>>132992066
>>132991965

I will

I feel so much safer now I've broken my delusions
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>>132991663
Louis Armstrong wrote an autobiography senpai? Love that guy, didn't know he was into bikes desu

https://youtu.be/OSEvh3KJtkI
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>>132991941
what do you mean you "quit female hormones" ?
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>>132986254

Why even bother mate, he seems like an absolute idiot.

He doesn't understand the difference between an international treaty and sovereignty.
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>>132992406


hahahhaa
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>>132992236
>She's cycled more than Froome, so she's fitter.
So what? It's possible to have run more than Roger Bannister but it's the quality not the quantity. How do you not know this?

You genuinely must be trolling, if so, well done, 7/10.
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>>132992339
I was a would have been tranny but was scared of being a tranny and my therapist helped me quit and rationalised my fears of being trans are totally acceptable and encourages me that it's ok to be a male so I can have an easier and less socially marginalised life

"Politics may preach acceptance and understanding but the real world is not like that and people are cruel, your desire to hide and repress is totally understandable and many people do it."
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>>132992365

He is confusing and blurring the decision making process involved in making laws, and in being able to exit institutions at will. He thinks that because we could have always left, there is basically no change in our circumstances now that we are leaving given how much EU derived legislation is on the books.
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>>132992561
i know you're all lefty faggots but this shit is funny
>>
holy shit this autistic cycling vs marathon debate.
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>>132992780
It's just tripfaggots pretending they aren't obese smelly virgins
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>>132992568
I'm just using your logic. She's cycled more and is younger, so clearly she's fitter.
That's ignoring the fact that she cycled 237 miles a day, for an entire year, totalling 86k miles which is more than 2200 miles in 21 days by any measure - daily, hourly or total - than Froome has ever managed.
Now you keep trying to deflect after having been proving utterly wrong, quite funny.
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>>132992925
Quality, not quantity. Why can't you get this through your head? She is at no where near the fitness or speed of professional riders.
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>>132987517
>sides
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>>132992365
The EU was made up of international treaties you mong.
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testing
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Can someone give me the copypasta of anon trying to get some porn allowance after mummy may cracks down on porn?
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good job autists the thread is going to die and no one has made a new one
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>>132992896
Aren't they all in the army too?
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>>132992741
>ran out of arguments so stopped replying
>only replies to anonymongs who agree with him
Lel
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>>132992741

His argument is as stupid as saying "durr, if we still do trade with them we haven't left."

You're correct in saying that laws we've previously been bound to will be up for debate on the day we leave.
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>>132993223
Cycling a mile on a grade of 7% is easier than cycling 40 miles.

That's what it comes down to. Coker is fitter than Froome, and by extension your claim that Froome is "the fittest person ever" is false. Stay salty friend.
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>>132993713
Haha yeah
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>>132993875
You have no idea. One of the mountains on today's tour has a gradient of 22 percent.
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>>132993769

You just wasted a post on not clarifying your argument so you obviously don't give a shit about it or your position, or mine.
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>>132986110
Vastly limit the accessibility of the NHS to non-citizens or non-nationals, nuke the dole and nuke the housing market through near to 0 migration, make it more expensive for foreign purchase (will not apply to business use buildings e.g. offices) and throw every banker of that retarded shaped building in canary wharf.
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baking
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NEW

>>132994048


>>132994048

>>132994048
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>>132993971
Some of it is downhill too, so what's your point?
I'm sure we could all cycle downhill for as long as we wanted.

Froome just isn't as fit as you think he is, even in the cycling world. Accept that. Move on with your life. Your idols aren't the best.
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>>132994058
n-nvm
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>>132994010
Because you failed to disprove my point, yet I pointed out your hypocrisy by using your own logic.
Anonymongs are easily triggered by me so they naturally disagree with everything I say, they'd argue the sky is green if I said it was blue.
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>>132994149
Froome is fitter than any other cyclist.

If that lady was fitter she would be cycling similar races with similar times, but she isn't.
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>>132994300
Endurance requires a higher level of fitness than speed. You might as well be asking why Radcliffe doesn't compete in the 100m.
Coker is measurably fitter than Froome. It's undeniable.
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