Debunking holocaus denial

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>>132979267
why would they use this picture of auschwitz with fake chimney ?

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>>132979267
>https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/
I was watching a documentary about the Einzatsgruppen on Netflix.

>just give numbers
>no facts
>no sources
>not even sure how many germans were in the einsatzgruppen
>whole documentary based on speculation and conjecture

I doubt it happened. It is just propaganda.

>>132979267
you do know that holocaust denial is just a meme right? pretty much all deniers, including /pol/, know that it happened (crematoriums, gas chambers and all). most deniers are just doing so for satire (shitposting) or to try and push an agenda (get back at jews). lurk more before creating threads please.

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>>132981650
>https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ezg1-intro/

>gas vans
Yeah right. How is a gas van even remotely feasible.

Also this site says that the Einsatsgruppen did not kill anybody.
>Local volunteers and police did the killing for the germans.

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>>132981710
what ticks me off is the cremation process.

let's assume the nazis actually recycled their stocks of zyklon (that were used to disinfect clothes) into killing thousands of jews a day.

To sustain this rate, they would have to burn multiple bodies at a time in their small ovens, around the clock 24/24.
I can see how dumping a body into a burning hot oven can be done with the stretcher they have, but stockpiling them while the first is in the way must have a been a particularly hard task when you lift a body at arm's length while the oven is blasting 800C

That all seems so inefficient, and far stretch.

>>132982912
Were some not buried?

I've read most autistic jew blogs,there's nothing that debunks the arguments in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuAAjrbbBiM

>think of a topic about holocaust you're sure you're blue-pilled about
>go to https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com and search for that topic
>try to find any any flaw in their reasoning/evidence that you're wrong
>cant, curl up and cry

two can play the game faggot

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>>132979267
>illegal to study Auschwitz
>here's some witness testimony
>MY BUBBI WAS GASSED 6 TIMES AND TURNED INTO A SHRUNKEN HEAD

>>132983025
go find the bones then

>>132979267
To be honest, the holocaust is only a big deal to kikes and cuck Germans. The only time it ever even crosses my mind is when some muppet like you brings it up. Anyone capable of basic math and decent understanding of wartime logistics will come to the conclusion that the numbers don't seem right whether you believe in it or not. Prove me wrong.

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yep

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dey wuz wasist

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>tfw people say nazis were racist

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god damn racist nazis, dont you just hate them

>>132983847
> posting an image macro without even knowing what it is

WHOA you sure showed everybody how smart you are.

God this board is ridiculous.

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>>132981710
>it's just a meme guys trust me
No, it's not, you fake consensus building faggot. The holohoax is the biggest lie of the century and everyone here knows it. Anybody saying that all the work we've been doing for years has been driven by humor is an enemy agent. Kill yourself, it's done, the jig is up, nobody believes in your retarded holocaust story anymore so fuck off.

>>132979267
>://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/
what about the fact that every "death" camp the allies investigated ended up a "concentration" camp?
why did the death toll drop by 4 million?

https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

> tfw can't even attribute some of the deaths to typhus and supply lines getting bombed without getting treated like a skinhead.

>>132984023
It was real in their minds

https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab3-german-documents-ovens/#_edn1
I am not going to go through all of them(somebody should, just to deunk their BS) but here they have a letter saying that the crematory capacity of auztwitch was 4756 corpses per 24 hours which gives 3,81 corpses per hour which is still physically imposible as modern cremtory ovens opperate at 2-3 corpses/hour.
I can theoreticaly go to jail simply for posting this and this progam is state founded, that speaks volumes

>>132979267

oy vey the mass killing of jews = bad silly goyim
i was sent to evil gas chamber by the racists nazis its real

>>132983130
>banned in your country
lol it is like they're trying to hide something

>>132983130
absolutely, this Treblinka documentary was a total disgrace, laughable bullshit, they found fuck all evidence of anything

>>132983968
Hitler and Nazi Germany were progressive for their time. He was anti colonialist and revered East Asian culture while Americans were making racist Tojo cartoons. Jesse Owens said he was treated better in Nazi Germany than in America. Some white supremacist.

>>132984081
there simply were no 'death camps'.

either you have a camp where people live, or you have a place where you just kill them.

the phrase death camp makes no logical sense.

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>>132979267
>hdot.org
Funny how they hid who owns the site. If you're good, why do you want to stay in the shadows?

>>132984947
b-but the jews were genocided by the racist nazis!!!! take my word for it nazis are evil and if you share any pride in your culture / race you too are a racist nazi

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>>132979267

>>132985079
Hitler believed other races and cultures should be allowed to thrive in their own way without interference

I believe in what you see is what you get.

What do you see looking at Auschwitz?

A place where people were taken to be murdered or a huge labour camp where people were kept alive to work in the numerous industrial plants in the local area?

>>132985395
I wonder how they're going to dismantle these storries, particularly the mastrubation machine of death

>>132983025
No mass graves have ever been found and trust me, Jewish academics have searched long and hard for them. Just like Jewish academics tried to find evidence of "The Exodus". They finally concluded that it never happened. The Holocaust is just the new Exodus story.

>>132985684
Or the Holo-coaster

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>>132985684
>>132985907

>>132979267
>reasoning/evidence
>probably did happen
that's not how science works

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>>132986163

>Two front War going on
>going to waste resources and time on prisoners

Seems legit

>>132979267

You've a lot more collectively pressing personal issue including sourcing the FHPs. Worry about that first.

Nobody denies Jew were horribly persecuted and deported to camps.

Nobody denies Jews were maasacred in eastern Europe either by the Germans or locals.

But I do deny that there were gas chambers for humans at Auschwtiz, that there are giant mass graves at Treblinka, and that any Nazi camp was an 'extermination camp'.

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>>132981650
>hospitalize a kike you are about to gas
>people unironically believe this

>>132985684
>mastrubation machine of death
i'm listening..

FHPs.

>>132979267

thats a cool picture of Henry Ford's train tracks

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>>132981710
Holocaust is just a religion.

>Not one single proof, so it is based on faith
>Only eyewitnesses (with fantastic and contradicting statements)
>Eternal sin
>Miracles (for example ovens that can burn Jews in just five minutes)
>Pilgrimage to certain sites
>Monuments to remind of the Holocaust
>Heretics are persecuted, inquisition
>Money making from it
>Devil, evil = Hitler

>>132979267
Jews died of disease and Hitler had to make sure it didn't spread so he gassed them gave them a quick death and cremate them to make sure the disease didn't spread the more you know

>>132983968
Its the free arab legion.

>>132986431
>he doesn't know what a holocaust is
That word predates the Shoah by millennia, and it's always been closely linked to Semites, dummy.

>>132987553
I wasn't aware they were being used as a fucking burned offering

>>132987553
>That word predates the Shoah by millennia, and it's always been closely linked to Semites, dummy.
Explain how is that relevant to the use of the word holocaust in that 1936 paper without you sounding like a complete moron.

>>132986728
http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/wolfboy_of_Auschwitz.htm
This page is probarbly banned in poland as well

>>132983130
Hahahahha. It's blocked in the UK.

>>132989596
try this

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=YuAAjrbbBiM

>>132989675
That works, thanks.

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>>132983682

oh hey look! How convenient of you to just cut out the part from the 1948 one that clearly states its based off of pre war estimates from 1938!

Funny how stormfags ALWAYS lie and act exactly like the jews they always bitch about

>>132989901
When you can't see something or if you don't want to give (you's) to youtube, just replace the "you" for "hook" in the url. :)

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>>132983130

>posting these hour long youtube videos because you cant articulate any actual argument.

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>>132982912

Why would the camps even have multiple crematoriums in the first place unless they planned on burning a bunch of corpses anon?

>>132990238
>Einsatz Reinhard
That's not German lingo.

>>132990551
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362465/The-Ellis-Island-tourists-don-t-Inside-infectious-disease-wards-morgue-giant-furnace-dreams-thousands-immigrants-hoping-new-life-America-came-terrible-end.html

Aushwitz at peak capacity was meant to house 100,000 people. They planned to expand it to 200,000. Crematorium was natural since ofc they expected people would die.

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>>132985079
>Hitler and Nazi Germany were progressive for their time. He was anti colonialist

No he wasnt. His entire plan was based on colonizing eastern europe, not to mention he wanted all the previous African colonies the german empire had.

> while Americans were making racist Tojo cartoons

how fucking retarded are you anon?

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>>132990105
Nice one mate.

>>132990813
>Crematorium was natural since ofc they expected people would die.

and why did they expect people to die? And how does this relate to the Warsaw ghettos from a few years before the camps became operational when all those people were starving to death?

>>132979267
>Debunking holocaus denial
will never happen under freedom of speech and gathering
when is your commie tyranny coming, shlomo?

>>132991224
>and why did they expect people to die?

Are you fucking serious, what a stupid question. You put a high concentration of people in one place during wartime, people will die. I'm pretty sure normal crematoriums in Germany were working overtime too

>>132991248

>pretending everyone secretly agrees with you instead of forming an actual argument for your internet conspiracy theory

How many times does pol need to debunk holohoax? Go read about it yourself faggot.

>>132990986
>His entire plan was based on colonizing Eastern Europe

The reality of lebensraum:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

Generalplan Ost refuted:
http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/02/the-latest-effort-to-combat-denial-i-e-holocaust-revisionism/
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/19-s.pdf (pgs. 236-243)
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/28-tecoar.pdf (pgs. 168-192)

Myth of massive Polish death toll:
https://codoh.com/library/document/1459/

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What's the point of denying Holocaust if there are proven cases of dozens of equally horrible crimes committed by Germans, majorly against Polish people?

What's the point of denying Holocaust if all the holocaust deniers attempt to prove is that there was no INTENTIONAL killing going on in the camps, while people were indeed dying of starvation and desease? While exactly the same thing happened in Russian gulags, and it is still considered a crime agaisnt humanity?

>>132990551
How is it possible they cremated 6 millions of jews in that period of time using those crematoriums? It's mathematically impossible to do.

Sure some jews died but nowhere near the 6 millions figure that even before the war was floating around.

>>132981710
Wew lad

>>132991484
Because the Holocaust is the moral measuring stick of our society. Why did Sean Spicer fuck up while talking about Assad's chemical weapons? Because he using the Holocaust as a moral measuring stick

>>132991449

>Metapedia

fuck off Nazi shill

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>>132991359
>You put a high concentration of people in one place during wartime, people will die.

Then how come they put them there in the first place? Again, why was there so much starvation in the warsaw ghettos? Dont you think that just MAYBE the nazi government mistreated these inmates based on their anti-jewish philosophy which Im sure youre going to pretend doesnt exist despite it being the main reason you shill for them? Also based on their previous use of death squads on jews in eastern europe?

Do you honeslty think this is "heh, just part of war!"

>>132991604
So again, how is killing people via starvation and bad living conditions any better than killing them via gassing?

Was Stalin "better" than Hitler?

>>132991449

>metapedia

HAHAHAHAH! Im just going to ignore you for the rest of the thread

>>132991484
German experts along with American experts investigated the uncovered mass grave in the Katyn forest and discovered that Stalin was behind the execution of around 30000 Polish officers and soldiers. Source: Katyn forest massacre.

>>132991515
>How is it possible they cremated 6 millions of jews

No one has ever claimed all 6 million victims died in gas chambers or were all cremated in those ovens. Your ignorance of the very basic understanding of the holocaust is really telling of deniers in general.

>>132991720
>Then how come they put them there in the first place?
For the same reason the U.S. put Japanese-Americans in concentration camps. Security measures.

>>132991892
Wow no shit Sherlock, we know that since 1941.

How does that relate to anything I stated in the post?

>>132985084
Gotta take some time torturing the jews with masturbation machines and dog rape before you kill them

>>132991720
What makes you so high and mighty?

Ever heard of deliberate bombing on civlian targets by Americans and Brits? You think you were so noble? The last thing Germans worried about when losing the war was wiping Jewish asses. Stop changing the fucking conversation

Yes mistakes and mistreatment happened, there was no holocaust, no gass chambers, no plans to genocide entire people.

Also your image, and all of the images of "hundreds of bodies in ditches", are all typhus victims. American doctors made tests for all the camps they liberated.

>>132979267
My grandfather was in Stutthof concentration camp I went there many years ago and iv seen building and the "bed" he was sleeping on, his reaction seeing building and bed and stories he told is best evidence for me of shit that was going on in there...

>>132991720
Of course they mistreated them, and I don't care. Sure a lot of them died because of various reasons since the Germans stuffed them in camps. The war sucked, boo hoo. With burned hundreds of thousands of Japanese mothers and their children alive. Systematic gassing still has no concrete evidence.

>>132991695
Refute it kraut

>>132991892

Literally everyone knows this anon. The Nazis still massacred even more Poles in A-B Aktion, The Palimary forest Massacre, and Intelligenzaktion which itself alone killed around 100,000 poles. Theres also operation Tannenberg which killed another 10,000 Poles, including hostipal patients who were shot in their beds along with a mass rape of women also. But of course, nazis dindu nuffin.

>>132979267
Didn't read. If it's illegal to question it, I will refuse to believe it. The truth does not fear investigation. When holocaust denial is legalized in all countries in the West I will lend credence to its historicity.

>>132979267
You want to know how to get past the Holocaust/Holohoax?
Just think about it pragmatically, maybe it happened, maybe it didn't. Maybe 700K Jews died, maybe 11 million Jews died who knows? Let's just stick to the 6 gorillion for arguments sake, so that part can be settled.
Now, when compared to Communism, which killed probably 20 times the Jews Hitler did, we should all agree that WW2 was an awful period in time. This was over 100 years ago.

BUT, the biggest problem is the level of sympathy the Jews are able to reap from events over 100 years ago. This should just stop. They got Israel and billions of dollars in aid now.

>>132992091
See >>132991484

>Ever heard of deliberate bombing on civlian targets by Americans and Brits? You think you were so noble?
As opposed to Germans and Soviets, Brits and Americans never took a planned action of eradication of entire social group.

Both Germans and Soviets murdered hundreds of thousands of members of Polish intellectual elites, in attempt to completely wipe out the Polish nationality.

Source: AB-Aktion and Katyń.

It also must be noted that Germans were the first to start the bombarding of civilian targets during the war, as soon as invasion of Poland started, so they were the first ones to break the conventions.

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>>132979267
HEY GOYS, COME TO MY WEBSITE AND GIVE ME YOU'RE IPS

fuck off chaim

>>132991733
Is accidentally killing someone in a car crash just as bad as mowing someone down intentionally? Intentions do matter. If you can prove it was an accident then you're innocent of any crime. I do think they should've been punished somehow because a lot of people still died and wouldn't have died had they not been in a camp

>>132979267

>David Cole (Jewish) goes to Auschwitz, 1992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFrJF-noN7A

>>132991950
Dude, cremated, gassed or shot dead, nowhere near 6 millions died.
How did they new before the war about the 6 millions figure? thats just basic logic, the 6 millions is just propaganda to fit in into jewish profecy and shit.

If really 6 millions jews were killed thats almost all of the jews living in Europe back then.
The fact you belive in this fairy tail just shows how dumb people like you are.

>>132979267
> Taking war propaganda as fact.

you are a true idiot

>>132991783
Refute the link

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>>132979267

Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.

6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds

In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.

It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaniously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.

That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total # of killed jews would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.


This is also implying there was an infinite supply of gasoline, zyklon b and firewood available in every death camp that was used.

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>>132987123
fukken saved

>>132992341
>over 100 years ..

Correction i mean almost 100

>>132992210
According to stormfags your grandpa was either brainwashed by Jews or is a lying Jew himself, they believe only Jews were the victims of camps and that all the mass murdering is a Jewish invention to blame the "good, honorable Germans". Kek.

>>132992210
How many times did he get gassed?

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>>132991958

Difference being

1-It was only japs in the western part of the country

2-they werent subjected to brutal slave labour in those camps

3-FDR, nor any other US politician, had a campaign of hatred of all ethnic japanese people in general

4-there was no case of US organized death squads massacreing Japanese Americans before they were put into the camps

5-the US ended up allowing japanese americans in these camps to enlist in the military to "prove their loyalty" see 442nd Regiment.

6-There was no policy of deliberately denying inmates in these camps food or medical supplies. Neither of killing them once they got too sick from the horrible conditions see Aktion 14f13

7-no one came out of the japanese camps looking like pic related.

>>132979267
Can't prove you wrong. My fathers outfit liberated one of those camps during the war. Real enough for me.

>>132992432

The total is not just from the camps, it counts every Jew killed since the start of Hitler's reign which is 1933.

>>132991720
>Firebombing millions of civilians and nuking japan twice

heh, just part of war! Necessary ebil!!!!!!!

1. Pathology results at the end of WWII indicate camp deaths were due to typhus. There is no evidence of poisoning by gas. For example, Dr. Charles Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps. Dr Larson told his biographer “never was a case of poison gas uncovered." (The Wichita Eagle, April 1, 1980, p. 4C.)
2. Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that "The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany." Dr. Gordon summarized the causes for the outbreaks as follows: "Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them ... Germany was in chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by advancing armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor, housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring such as few countries and few times have experienced." (John E. Gordon, "Louse-Borne Typhus Fever in the European Theater of Operations, U.S. Army, 1945," in Forest Ray Moulton, editor, Rickettsial Diseases of Man (Washington, DC: American Academy for the Advancement of Science, 1948), pp. 16-27)

>>132991515

1.1 milion died in Aushwitz. Now the math:

Many of them were just buried after death of starvation, shooted or whatever reason. Like ten/hundreds per day.

There were at least 5 crematorias in Auschwitz/Birkenau. Two of them could burn 1100 corpses per 24 hours, two about 800. I've been inside one of them and it is possible.

>>132992226
>Sure a lot of them died because of various reasons

that reason being a deliberate genocide on party of the german government.

>>132979267
It probably didn't happen the way it was described.

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Pure coincidence

>>132992706
Do you have a source they could burn that many other than "I saw it"

>>132992386
>Is accidentally killing someone in a car crash
>"accidentally"
Dude, do you know how both German and Soviet camps worked?

Their sole purpose was breaking the prisoners (mostly of political origin), both their minds and spirits. They were the tool of totalitarian oppression. People starved and died because the living conditions were so fucking terrible.

Either believe that both Nazi and Commie regimes were equally evil, or that none of them was. Don't be a fucking hypocrite.

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>>132992702
3. Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that: "Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren't deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of diseases." (Disease killed Nazis' prisoners, MD says," Toronto Star, Feb. 8, 1985, p. A2.) 4. This lack of evidence is something acknowledged by Professor Raul Hillberg (1985 Toronto trial) and Adorno Mayer ("Sources for the study of the gas chambers at once rare and unreliable" Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?). 5. The findings that deaths were due to disease rather than deliberate extermination is consistent with Red Cross records from the camps and the British intelligence which had been intercepting German communications from 1942 onwards. In Volume II of his book British Intelligence in the Second World War, Sir F. Hinsley notes that British Intelligence was decoding the secret messages from Hoess, Camp Commandant of Auschwitz, to Berlin, which included his daily returns, and goes on to say:-- “The returns from Auschwitz, the largest of the camps with 20,000 prisoners, mentioned illness as the main cause of death but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassings."

>>132990020
Hello /leftypol/

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>>132992091
>Ever heard of deliberate bombing on civlian targets by Americans and Brits?

its cut when you move the goalpost with this whataboutism bullshit and lose on that front to.

>>132992432
never understood why you would gas people, its way to inefficient and costly.

Just use a freaking abandoned mine, and but a bullet in their head. Shit even digging a 40m deep hole and than just let then thrown them in sparta style is more cost effective.

>>132991720
The issue is not that the Germans were cruel or careless with the lives of their prisoners, the issue is that there is no evidence whatsoever of a systemic gassing of the inmates. It was clearly Soviet propaganda to justify harsher revenge on post-war Germany.

We know what the Germans actually did when they massacred people because we've found the mass graves, including a great many stuffed full of Jews. They machinegunned them and buried them in trenches.

This is the reality of the situation: Had the Nazis actually wanted to kill all of the Jews they imprisoned they would have taken them out to a field in Poland and machinegunned them like they did EVERY OTHER TIME they massacred thousands of prisoners. It would have taken hours instead of months, it would have required less time and less effort, and it would not have required millions of tons of fuel, a highly complex chemical eradication process and what must have been a staggeringly inefficient murder-pipeline.

The entire argument is asinine. It falls apart under even the most basic of scrutiny. If they had wanted to kill all of the gypsies and jews and poles they could've done it in two days instead of failing to do it in four years. Nowhere else in the history of humankind has any group of people performed a massacre as inept and pointlessly labyrinthine as the Holocaust is claimed to have been, except perhaps the Romans crucifying slaves to serve as an example--and there the motivation was concrete. Here there is no evidence for it at all.

>>132992337
>>132992341
>>132992432
>>132992702
See >>132991484

>>132992799
http://www.holocausthandbooks.com/dl/33-hia.pdf
Read that book, it proves they tried to stop the typhus epidemic and give the prisoners a good diet. They also tried to make the hospitals for the inmates a lot better by repairing them.

>>132992432

Not every single victim was gassed. Literally not ONE person has ever claimed this. This is just a strawman deniers make since they are so utterly clueless about the holocaust that they have no idea what they are even denying. Thanks for showcasing once again how little deniers know of the one thing they are obsessed with.

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>>132992842
6. Judge Edward L van Roden, one of three members of the Simpson Army Commission, appointed to investigate the Dachau Trials, reported: "all but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operation procedure with our American investigators." (American Atrocities in Germany” The Progressive, February 1949, p. 21f) 7. The six million figure itself seems to have been commonly referenced well before WWII. In 1898 Rabbi Stephen S Wise spoke of “6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism”. 8. Similarly, Don Heddesheimer’s book “The First Holocaust” which also documents post-WWI claims, reported in the New York Times for instance, that East European Jewry was on the brink of annihilation, regularly invoking the six million figure. 9. According to Ben Weintraub, The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism" Hebrew prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million would vanish before Israel could be formed. Tom Segev, an Israeli Historian, discussed how the figure is an attempt to transform the Holocaust into a state religion (The Seventh Million). 10. There are survivors from Aucshwitz like Marika Abrams who were unaware of people being killed by gas. On the other hand it was claimed at Nuremberg that camps like Dachau and Buchenwald were used to gas people. Those eyewitness claims are no longer accepted. Why the change??

>>132992529
Exactly and its fucking sad.... if he was alive today he would break in tears after hearing all those people. Jesus fuck everyone is aahhhh but the Jews.... Even fucking media are pointing that Trump was the first president not to visit monument of ghetto uprising, but fuck meee he visited monument of Warsaw uprising where 16 times more Poles died but whoo fucking cares they are not Jews

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>>132992842

The soccer team is british POWs who confirmed everything about the camps happened. Good job inadvertently proving yourself wrong anon.

>>132991224
>Why did they expect people to die.
Holy shit. Seriously? Because of.. you know.. war? Maybe?

>>132992611
Thankfully it was pretty late into war, he was there 2-3 months working. But then Russians came...

>>132981710
Yes, I agree with your statement. Making light of this is a common way to deal with such things. Serious thought of this it a super depressing.

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>>132992091
>Ever heard of deliberate bombing on civlian targets by Americans and Brits?

Yup. It was a tactic they copied from the Germans.

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>>132991484
No one is saying jews didn't die, or that nazis weren't anti semitic.
All we're saying is just that the nazis never had any plan to exterminate them all, there were no gas chambers and way less than 6 million died(hunger and typhus)

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>>132992882
>It was clearly Soviet propaganda to justify harsher revenge on post-war Germany.


except all the initial information of that came from the Polish resistance. You know, they guys who were fighting against both the nazis and soviets?

Once again, deniers have no idea what they are denying in the first place

>>132993021
someone did the math for the official figures killed at Auschwitz between 1943-1945 and it comes out to roughly the same number, a death per minute.

>>132992938
>>132991484
What is the point of tolerating a fucking lie? You understand that the motive for the uplifting of the Holocaust into an act of unique genocide was explicitly to use it as justification for the mystification of Jewish persecution, it has been employed as a bludgeon against every country that has defied Hebrew will since the 1940s, and it has been used in ways that no other genocide has been.

If it is not true then it is not true, and that should be known. Nobody is denying the villain of the National Socialists but rather the specifics of their villain and the histrionic method in which the genocide is treated. You will notice that there are PLENTY of Communists and Socialists alike who will dismiss the mass murders of the Soviet Union in the ways you describe--and a great many of these people have mainstream followings and audiences. So obviously the crime against humanity is not equivalent, there is something "special" about the Holocaust. This is a political tool and it is based on what is almost surely a lie.

>>132992799
The nazis, commies and americans all killed people in concentration camps so they were all "evil", thats what war is like

>>132992798

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/crematoria-and-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau

This one for example. My grandma has a lot of books about Auschwitz and shit (but only polish) with memories and it seems legit.

>>132993126

They were non combatants away from the war entirely anon. Youre really fucking stupid.

>>132993236
Immaterial. The fact that the Polish had some theories as to the murder of people that were then taken up by the Soviets does not evidence anything, particularly not the physically impossible genocide described.

And this is still further immaterial to my initial point, which is that I will not, under any circumstances, believe in an idea which it is illegal to question. I am more certain now than I have ever been before in my life that the Holocaust was a lie.

>>132993021
It doesnt even matter how they were killed, how did they get rid of the bodies?

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>>132993230

>muh wooden doors

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>>132979267
there are no documents...thats one of the problems...thats why one of the greatest Holocaust "Scholars" wrote about paranormal germans killing jews per mind reading.NO kidding.There is not one document that says something like..."we gassed 1000 jews today".Thats why (((they))) have to interpret every document the way (((they))) want.

>>132981710
If it actually happened, you wouldn't need to outlaw questioning discrepancies and imprisoning those who do. What are these people afraid of if they have nothing to hide?

>>132993432

Tell that to my dead grandparents.

>>132981710
Get fucked. You don't get to talk for anyone with this official statement from /pol/ nonsense.

>>132992972
>it proves they tried to stop the typhus epidemic and give the prisoners a good diet
Wow no shit, the typhus epidemic was a threat to the camp crew as well so obviously they attempted to stop it.

Still what do you think caused the outbreak in the first place other than the shitty conditions?

>They also tried to make the hospitals for the inmates a lot better by repairing them
There is no denying that not all prisoners were treated equally. Indeed, those with better status and those who collaborated with Germans, like kapos, were provided the relatively good conditions that Stormfags brag about when trying to prove that camps were heaven on earth.

Regardless, most of the prisoners were constantly either starving or eating very poorly, as well as being worked to the bone, just like it happened in gulags. I have never even found a denier who'd try to deny that fact.

>>132993432
>Immaterial

No, you said the claims of the gas chambers came from the soviets, a lie I just proved wrong. The claims came from the Polish underground resistance, who were fighting fearcly against the soviets.

You lied and got called out anon. Deal with it anon.

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>>132979267
The problem with holocaust deniers is that they try to use that single issue as evidence that Nazi Germany was innocent of any and all war crimes.

>camp and systematic jew extermination looks exaggerated
>'wtf hitler, ss and the Wehrmacht did nothing wrong!'

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>>132979267
holy shit, gas-on-the-go vans are actually real? I thought that was just sarcasm.

>>132993432
Polish people where murdered by Germans by Russians (Katyń) by Ukrainians Why da fucking fuck would they lie about those murders going on alongside with Jews, Gypsies etc jesus fucking Christ you are better be trolling or something because I cannot believe someone can be this stupid.

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>>132993590
This
Also how about the money used by jews in the camps? makes no sense giving something that could be used as money to people that they wanted to genocide.

>>132993236
For the pic you used

Jan Karski:
https://codoh.com/library/document/2177/

Rudolf Vrba:
http://codoh.com/library/document/1450/

Alfred Wetzler and Vrba:
https://codoh.com/library/document/640/?lang=en

Pilecki:
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2489

Gerstein:
https://codoh.com/library/document/653/
https://codoh.com/library/document/1936/
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf (Page 371)

>>132987123
I disagree.
>israelites are shittypeople so God used Egypt to punish them
>israelites are shitty people so God used Babylon to punish them
>israelites are shitty people so god uses Rome to punish them
>israelites are shitty people so God used Hitler to punish them

Seems to me Hitler was in fact doing the lords work.

>>132993596
Noone fucking cares about your grandparents

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>>132981710
Hmmmm...

>>132991720
>being this naive
Maybe you should actually study the most important series of events in recorded history beyond the week you spent on it in highschool before trying to comment on it.

>>132992622
The fuck are you 60 years old? You are full of shit

>>132993553
What building is that on? Tell me what the building is

>>132992619
Because we won the war you dope. Our supply lines didn't get bombed into Oblivion. Had Japan and Germany won the war and invaded the US. I guarantee the Jap camp would look exactly like this.

>>132993696
if the poles got it from the soviets, then its still from the soviets. Nonetheless, resistance fighters of any kind, or any warring party, tend to make shit up. Look at the white helmets in Syria or even how swift the rebels blamed assad for the "gas bombing" incident.

>>132993288
>The nazis, commies and americans all killed people in concentration camps so they were all "evil"
The only victims of "American death camps" were some German prisoners who died due to bad food rationing.

There is no a slightest comparison between that and an entire industry of both German and Soviet prisoner camps, where millions of people - political prisoners of civilian origin - were worked to death and, yes, executed.

>>132993691
There were shitty conditions, but they tried to fix them, unlike Stalin. Also, please prove only Kapos were treated in the hospital, because the link I provided suggests otherwise. I know for a fact that any pregnant woman could give birth in the hospital

>>132979267
You don't prove a negative.
Present your case for peer review.

>>132983025
Allegedly the Nazis went in, dug them all up, and burnt them SO NOTHING REMAINED. Which shows how evil they were!

>>132982912
Not to mention the ovens shown don't look as if they could run that hot, with that capacity, for what people claim happened.

>>132993898

The irony of your comment is amazing. Youre obviously some nupol fag whos been here for a year and whos historical research includes taking a few /pol/ memes seriously and watching some shitty neonazi youtube video.

>>132993979
>Our supply lines didn't get bombed into Oblivion

neither did Germany. How come the allies had NO problem shipping in food or medical supplies to these camps once they were liberated? How come the nazi government had a delibate plan to deny inmates food? Aktion 14f13?

>>132993981
>if the poles got it from the soviets

they didnt, they got it themselves. They were fighitng against the soviets anon. The idea that the soviets just made it up is wrong since the poles were the first ones to say that. Its wrong, deal with it. You just look desperate when you continue to shill something that you know is wrong.

>>132993236
Gerstein is proven to be a fake testimony and his report is full of lies.

>>132993696
>Well the partisans said it so it must be true

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>>132993571
>there are no documents

wow really made me think

>>132993747
Actually that's a strawman argument and you just pulled it out of your ass, faggot

>>132993747
It's not that they're trying to prove Germany to be 100%, it's that they want to show that Germany was not the devil everyone wants to make it as and that its militarization was a response to the shit everyone threw on it after World War I. That, and in addition, the allies were just as bad in many cases, if not worse, in regards to how viciously they destroyed germany nationally, culturally, and historically. Given the allies' passion to kill their enemy and their "total war" mentality, it makes sense to believe that they bullshitted as much as the German propaganda office did, and continue to bullshit so no one would question them as severely as they questioned the germans.

>>132993553
The only doors that were made like that were used in delousing chambers. They are listed and confirmed by all historians as never being used for gassing jews - only for clothing. They were on buildings seperate from the living quarters and shower rooms and converted bunkers for supposed gassings. The only rooms that were used as gas chambers do not have doors like that.

>>132994068
Yeah I forgot japs doesnt count as people

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>>132994290

>well this neonazi youtube video said it so it must be true

the claim was that the soviets made it up when it first came from the polish resistance. I called out a stormfag lie anon. Deal with it.

>>132993571
>there are no documents

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>>132993923
Not quite. Not full of shit. No axe to grind. Just sharing facts fagot.

>>132994498
>363000 = 6000000
woah...

>>132993256
>You understand that the motive for the uplifting of the Holocaust into an act of unique genocide
How can a genocide be "unique"?

>mystification of Jewish persecution
Jewish persecution was still very real even if you don't believe in Holocaust. Have you heard of ghettoes and uprising in Warsaw Ghetto?

>Nobody is denying the villain of the National Socialists but rather the specifics of their villain and the histrionic method
So what you are basically trying to say is that you are not trying to whitewash the Germans, but rather cut out the part where they persecute the Jews because of your anti-semitic political agenda.

Look faggot. I don't even like Jews myself, I believe they use the Holocaust for political purposes just as you do. But I don't fucking deny it because of that reason, because it's a historical event that happened. Period. Jews and Poles were equally persecuted by Germans, whether I like it or not. There was not even a clear distinction back in the day, because lot of Jews were basic Polish citizens who spoke Polish, some of them were even naturalized Catholics. So as much as I hate the modern Holocaust Industry, I want to rather focus on pointing out how the Jews were not the only victims of German persecution, rather than deny the event completely and fit into Stormfag narrative that "Hitler was a saint who dindu nuffin". Do you get what I'm trying to say?

>You will notice that there are PLENTY of Communists and Socialists alike who will dismiss the mass murders of the Soviet Union
Indeed, and they are just as pathetic as the stormfag Holocaust deniers.

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>>132994364
>Actually that's a strawman argument and you just pulled it out of your ass

see

>>132984023

the fucking irony of you faggots is amazing.

>>132993571
>there are no documents

>>132993571
Its not just documents though - we cracked nazi codes early in war. We knew everything they communicated by radio. We heard them speaking. When pushing into germany at end of war when the actual killings are supposedly at peak and they are covering up everything - digging up bodies and burning them or mass cremations and firepits - and theres nothing our spy planes spot at Auschwitz or other camps. Literally no overhead photos showing bodies burning or piles of bodies ready to be cremated or anything. Its not even something they can hide away or destroy telegraphs - we had the codes cracked and were listening and recording everything and NOTHING is said about these and no orders or anything.

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>>132991733
Probably because the camps were well provided for as long as possible: https://youtu.be/WPa_QeV9KDM

but that started to go out the window as supplies dwindled and movement of resources was restricted by bombing (can't find interview in which holocaust survivor recounts bombing of a train carrying himself and other prisoners).

The gulags are described as terrible from the start.

Assuming that thr human experimentation is true, then it's certaibly bad, yet no different than what people have done everywhere, including in the US. Should anyone promoting a republican or representative democratic system be forced to fight off allegations of supporting unethical experimentation?

>>132993256
>What is the point of tolerating a fucking lie?

Says the guy who lied in this thread. Again, the irony of deniers is amazing. You bahve EXACTLY like the "deceiving kikes" you always bitch about

>>132994498
>Neonazi
>Stormfag
All you have is name calling. You deal with the fact that you're not going to bully people into going along with your fiction. Why are you so afraid of dissenting opinions?

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>>132994699
>Probably because the camps were well provided for as long as possible

Is that why when people were starving in them, the nazis threatende to shoot anyone on sight eating food they snuck in? Or shooting any civilian they caught giving food to inmates?

>>132994239
>soviets disembowel, rape, and torture German civilians
>british round up soldiers and make then stand inside barbed wire fence and starve to death
Just part and parcel of war in a European country goy.
>inmates dying of shitty conditions and starvation like the majority of the German populace by the end of the war
Oy vey!

>>132994118
>There were shitty conditions, but they tried to fix them, unlike Stalin
Again, it depends because there were many camps. Prisoners of Auschwitz lived in relatively good conditons, in stone buildings, with access to most services. Inmates of Birkenau, on the other hand, were crowded in shitty wooden barracks, constantly infested by rats and other vermin. And such was a case for the death camps, like Treblinka. So basing your view on Auschwitz exclusively doesn't really paint the entire picture.

>>132994563
Claiming that your father's alleged experience vindicates bogus holocaust fairytale stories. I know you're larping but if you really are a boomer, you all deserve to be gassed, for real this time

>>132994828
>All you have is name calling.

...and documents and actual historical evidence

If Nazi are so evil, why did jews choose to go with them instead of staying behind to be liberated by Communists? Even nobel peace prize winning liar that has Elie Wiesel (look up his missing tattoo, inconsistent dates, and dozens of other mistakes, and rewrite by his wife years later for more proof of his lies), who wrote the made up story of Nights, left with them instead of choosing to be freed. How evil must these Nazi's be? Stockholm Syndrome I guess.

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>>132994932
>conditions and starvation like the majority of the German populace by the end of the war

oh look, another fucking lie! how amazing!

>>132994118
>, but they tried to fix them

no they didnt and you have NO proof at all for this. Aktion 14f13.

>>132979267
A jew and a Czech were walking in a national forest. All of a sudden, a bear appeared and ate the Czech man. The Jewish guy ran back to find someone to help. He found a Forest Ranger and told him what had happened. So the ranger took a gun and went back into the forest. There were two bears together. "Now there are only two bears on this mountain," the ranger explained. "One is a male, the other is a female. Which is the one that ate your friend?" The Jewish guy said it was definitely the male bear. So the ranger fired the gun and killed the bear, while the other ran away. When they cut it open to see, its stomach was empty.

>>132994652

Wtf are u talking about.

From April 1942 to February 1943, British Intelligence intercepted and decoded radio messages sent by the “German Order Police”, which included daily prisoner returns and death tolls for ten concentration camps, including Auschwitz.

The United States Office of Strategic Services received reports about Auschwitz during 1942.

They just expected labor, not death camps.

>>132995253
The moral of the story? Never trust a Jew that says the Czech is in the male

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>>132995010
I have personally spoken with survivors. If that is offensive tough shit. Those that don't know the history are doomed to re-live it. Enjoy

>>132994699
>Probably because the camps were well provided for as long as possible
[citation needed]


Reports of the early prisoners, like Witold Pilecki >>132993236 state something completely different.

In addition, see >>132995004
Basing your views on conditions of Auschwitz only doesn't really show the conditions that were in most of camps, because it had relatively one of the best conditions out of them all. It wasn't even considered a death camp in the first period of war.

>>132995142
There is plenty of proof - evacuating the prisoners to new camps to save them from Communists is pretty fucking easy proof. The fact the prisoners were given choice to stay or come and admit to it is another easy proof they tried to save them from dying and starvation.

>>132995004
The book talks about Birkenau, since Auschwitz and Birkenau are so close they're often considered the same camp. And you should research Treblinka, because according to the official story, hardly anyone was living there except the SS. The few inmates living there were not kept there to die, they were kept there to exterminate Jews getting off the trains in a diesel gas chamber that uses the engine of a Soviet tank (I've even heard it was a Soviet submarine engine lol) to kill people and then burying them in a mass grave. So hardly anyone lived at Treblinka. And if you watch the Treblinka Archaeology Hoax you'll see that they had an infirmary and a pool in the inmate areas

>>132995253

Did you actually type this out as if it means anything? Seriously, why are deneirs so fucking stupid?

>>132995016
>...and documents and actual historical evidence
Documents aren't infallible. You're saying that they can't be created, falsified, tampered with? Actual historical evidence huh? Like I said previously, if that is the case why do you need to rely on imprisoning those who may have questions? What's the harm? What do any of you actually have to lose at someone saying hmm, I'm just not convinced sorry?

>>132995459
Oy vey Schlomo Goldshekelsteinberg is on to me

>>132994239
re-read other anon's comment, I read it wrong before and thus I came to the wrong conclusion when talking about the pole-soviet relation in regards to what they said about the gas chambers.

>"you lied and got called out. deal with it anon"
>"you just look desperate when you shill something you know is wrong"

However, if we're going to stoop to claims of desperation and thus the forced implication that "one side is losing" - mind you, I'm fence sitting, looking at the angles shown in this thread to see what each side has to say - then let me remind you the pot should avoid calling the kettle black. Likewise "you know is wrong" is a bullshit statement. You sound like a theist when they shout at an atheist "You know god exists! You just deny it!" If I believed I knew everything about the holocaust and that my opinion was superior to anyone else's, I would not be on this thread, and in regards to political stances, nonetheless /pol/. I'm here for curiosity, and when any side of any argument starts shouting at anyone who considers the opposing side's argument "you know you're wrong!," that, my dear sir or ma'am, is the epitome of desperation. I'm not saying the stance on the holocaust you take is wrong, I'm just saying calling out the bullshit of "x side is desperate, they know they're wrong" statement. For all intents in purposes in regards to discourse and inquiry on a topic, those two ideas are meaningless horseshit, and why you resort to such low-brow retorts is beyond me.

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>>132984598

Lmfao. They had like 52 ovens maximum but apparently only operated 38 at a time at most due to the fact they shared chimneys and shit

381/52 = over 7 bodies per oven PER HOUR. Nigger modern cremation ovens require 1-3 hours PER body how the fuck are they doing 7?

Yea you sure got us! Debunked the debunkers! Woooo seriously though do they just make these "truth" websites and expect no one will actually read them? They literally proved that the holocaust didnt happen themselves.

>>132995142
I've already provided proof in this thread. Here:
http://www.holocausthandbooks.com/dl/33-hia.pdf
And I thought you were ignoring me? Guess your pride got the best of you

>>132995363
>There is plenty of proof

notice how you didnt post it...

>>132992352
Can you point to a specific example? The biggest must be warsaw, but, as you probably well know, it was a well-defended military target.

>>132992853
>>132993219
Yeah, those damned germans whose bombers were blown off course and bombed civilians homes once, to which britain responded with an actual civilian bombing campaign. Hitler spent WEEKS trying to get Churchill to stop the madness, to no avail, and ended up responding in kind.

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>>132979267
>Prove me wrong
A fake drowning pit disguised as a fake swimming pool disguised as a fake reservoir. Seems legit

>>132995562
>Documents aren't infallible.

Its interesting how you become these hardline skeptics when history proves you wrong, but are willing to use any bullshit conspiracy theory you see on the internet when it proves you right.

> You're saying that they can't be created, falsified, tampered with?

They arent. Youre just a really gullible stupid person anon.

Holocaust probably did happen, but the numbers were grossly inflated for the sake of putting such a heavy punishment onto the German people.

i don't believe in the "we were just killing lice" meme, but i'm sure there were a few buildings/camps that were deemed as death camps for the sake of outrage

>>132995750
I heard that before they filled it with water they glued shekels to them bottom of it. They didn't even have to force the kikes to drown, they went in voluntarily

>>132994239
Nonetheless, I still stand with my skepticism towards both sides (and the point I made about resistance groups being capable of propoganda) and towards the soviets and poles when they make claims about the nazis.

>>132995647
you also didnt post any proof 6 millions jews died.

No one here is saying no jews were killed, we all know some jews got killed. the point is the 6 million figure is propaganda.

now post proof 6 million jews died or stfu

>>132979267
If you win the war it's easy to manufacture evidence.

>>132993055
I think that you are simply brainwashed and you should think about the possibility that your grandpamight have thought things were different from how they were in reality. Of course it sucked,but in terrible situation one person might have said simething was more horrible than it was,and it spread as a rumor.

Can you explain to me how the 6 million number was known before the war? And no,I 'm not anazi, I 'm in favour of a Jewish state, but I listen to both sides and the more pre-1933 newspapers I see, the more thus 6 million number looks like bullshit.

>>132995562
>Documents aren't infallible
Obviously, but you can't discount something solely because the concept of forgery exists.

>>132993376
and you just leave the corpses to rot on the battlefield huh?

>>132996090
It is horrible that Jews doubting the 6 millions number are expelled out of their own community.

>>132995849
Still you conveniently dance around my last question, which is why are you so afraid of people questioning it? Am I or anyone doing so harming you or anyone else? No. So why the need to imprison?

I'm sure you'll just ignore it yet again because you can't even be honest about it.

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>>132996033
I agree with the sand nigger

>>132995427
>The book talks about Birkenau, since Auschwitz and Birkenau are so close they're often considered the same camp

And yet, they were separate camps.

I see you're not even trying to deny that living conditions in Birkenau were much worse than the ones in Auschwitz?

>hardly anyone was living there
[citation needed]

What about Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Płaszów?

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>>132979267

What about a gas chamber with windows? This is what's shown to the tourists that visit Majdanek.

>>132996114
I am highly skeptical of anything "found" several years after the war, like the Jaeger Report. If it was found shortly after liberations of camps or presented at Nuremberg then sure I'll take a look at it and discuss it

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>>132995875
>they went in voluntarily
Kek

>>132994634
Give me a break. Nobody is buying the bullshit you came here to sell. Mincing words and working at manufacturing a sense of equivalence when the difference is already kown here, the history and the lies. We ridicule the holocaust story because you jews have the audacity to continue to use it to shoehorn jewish privilege into culture and suppress any host society immune response to subversive jewish behaviors. Using decades of media dominance you have tied notions of the holocaust to the expectations of an individual's morality in western societies. You deserve repudiation for your dishonesty and it starts with tearing down your palace of anti intellectual liars known as holocaust scholars. You cant stop the momentum. We have already crossed the rubicon and soon all jewish lies will be plain for every normie to see.

Ps stormfags havent been a thing here in years. Ths average anon now knows the nose.

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>>132995310
Kek

>>132996114
I can when the people in question have to resort to jailing those who who would.

>>132981710
There was no organized attempt to kill European Jews, although seeing the course of events in Europe, we would have been better off if there was.

>>132994239
You're a faggot. Ad hominem and cherry picking.

German supply lines were gone and the Germans finally lost the resources to rebuild them. The allies had near infinite resources and manpower to build and secure supply lines that's how offensive war is planned.

Aktion 14f13 comes from an philosophy of war that predates Hitler and started before wwi and was used during the great war when Germany had no food and they chose to supply the soldiers first then civilians then prisoners and handicapped. They weren't going to let soldiers starve and you wouldn't have either.
Both of your naive objections stem from Germany being a mostly landlocked nation with no colonial resources and an irrelevant navy.

You are just as it ignorant on this topic as the guy you were ad homineming. You should read more on the topic instead watching some e celeb meme video on history fag boi.

>>132996090
I think YOU are brainwashed if you keep believing that only Jews were inprisoned and persecuted in camps.

Look nigger, almost every old person living in Poland will tell you how bad the Germans were, and not only in relation to Jews, because there were much more crimes committed by them. My grandfather, for example, experienced them burning a nearby village and murdering the inhabitants in retaliation action. Was he "brainwashed" as well?

>>132994915
unsurprising, considering problems with black markets and food hoarding.
>>132995342
Is 1943 an early prisoner? Concentration camps started in '33. Citation? How about camp regulations, punishments for abusing prisoners (crimes against them seem to have also been done without the german government managing to punish them at the end of the war, however).

>>132996336
I did dispute your claim that they didn't try to improve conditions at Birkenau, I said read the book because it talks about Birkenau as well. As for my source about Treblinka, read The Extermination Camps of Aktion Reinhard, it's a 1500 page refutation to the hilarious Holocaust Controversies bloggers. Talks all about this shit. The fact that few people lived at Treblinka is just a commonly accepted historical fact by believers and revisionists alike. They didn't have many prisoners barracks. And I'm not going to go through and look at each camp. But if you want to do research, just know that any camp that had a delousing chamber tried to fight the typhus epidemic, which proves my point

>>132995322
>i met the survivors
So youre actually a jew pretending to be the son of a WW2 vet who liberated a camp of jews to convince strangers on the internet that the holocaust was real

Gee, i wonder why people dont like you guys. Really makes me think

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Nuremberg trials run by jews was totally fair

>All but two of the Germans in the 139 cases we investigated had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators

Also here are allied soldiers showing German citizens lampshades, soap, and shrunken heads. What happened to them just being a rumor spread by "deniers"?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NMLXpNtPsp8

>>132996641
Listen nigger, no one says the Nazi's dindu nuffin or didn't kill a bunch of people. It's the Holocaust narrative that is fake, not the obvious fact that the Nazi's killed a shitload of people. Pointing to specific incidents of executions/murders as proof of the 6 gorillion Jew Holocaust is absurd.

>>132995726
>Can you point to a specific example?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Wielu%C5%84

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Frampol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotterdam_Blitz

>>132994239
>continue to shill something that you know is wrong.
Like 6 Gorillion

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>>132996469

>>132979267
AGREE

*ALSO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING POINTS*

(1) Stormfags; if you love your Nazi BS that much then consider the precise record keeping the third reich did. - German efficency?

Files in TRIPLICATE. Who went in and when, what was taken from them, where they went etc.
If you love your Nazi shit that much, at least have the understanding that they recorded what they were doing. (IBM anyone)

ALSO

(2) Have you seen the tattoos that Nazis forced onto Jews at the camps?
Some OLD fellas have low numerical tattoos.
Probably were fit and healthy, good immune system, lived a somewhat classical lifestyle, were well conditioned.
These were the workers.
They have tattoos ranging from Low 100,000's to 1,000,000
They got in early and had time to acclimatize and learn the camp.

The other group you would see are the old women who were just young women, not so old men who were camp worker men and children.
That group have tattoos ranging from the low 2,000,000 range upward (highest I have personally seen started with a 4,xxx,xxx).

Reason being, these people were LIBERATED FROM THE CAMPS PRIOR TO THEIR EXTERMINATION.

So, just a rundown.

1= Person 1
2=Person 2
Therefore
2345678 = Person 2,345,678

Thats a whole lot of people the nazis exterminated.

It was a holocaust.
And it was terrible.

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The only problem I have with Holocaust denial thread is the sheer amount of people dropping images/videos without explaining what they touch. If you want to convince someone, don't drop all your folder without explaining what subject of the hoax each media explains or debunks.
I'd like to drop a video made by the CODOH about Deborah Lipstadt's talk during TEDx in April '17, this woman also had a movie made about her fight against Irvin in court, unsurprisingly it flopped. So this video talks about some shaddy points in her work and how she wrote some of her books: https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1013

>>132995363
Even Holocaust survivor Primo Levi reports in his book Survival in Auschwitz that prisoners went voluntarily with the SS when the camp was abandoned

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stop denying proven history goyim
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>>132996033

Maybe it's easy, but not in that case.

Auschwitz and other deaths camps were build with german precision. It is just obvious when you are there. There is no way russians,, poles or jews can build and develop something like that.

>>132996641
Wheredid I say that? You are putting words into my mouth. Of course there were Germans which commited crimes,but you didn't explain tome what proof there is for the 6 million number. The only proof so far of it is it being constantly repeated just like meh Russia rigged the elections and made Trump win.

>>132979267
Okay, it is mathematically impossible to kill 6 million people in the manner described by the mainstream narrative , there has never been evidence of mass graves that support the 6 million number, he only documents that have been found to support these conclusions have come from the Soviet Union, a nation that is infamous for it's brainwashing techniques and propoganda,and most of the time people just make argumentum ad verecundium in order to support their beliefs.

>>132981710
This. Everything I posted here is satire. Nothing lasts forever and everything turns to dust. My faith is in Jesus Christ our lord and savior. He is the only thing that is enternal.

>>132997299
sure, but there's no gas chambers. who cares about huts and fences.

>>132997253
I love that song.

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>>132994239
>How come the allies had NO problem shipping in food or medical supplies to these camps once they were liberated?

Wait is this bait? Do you know how armies and their logistics work at all? It's actually pretty pathetic you're making statements of authority when not even knowing something so basic.

>>132997104
Another thing to consider

>All those documents you discovered came from Soviet Sources
>There has never been any evidence of mass graves found
>There being a bunch of people with tattoos does not mean there was a mass extermination event a priori

Lmao

>>132997299
Do people really claim the camps have been build by russians,jews or poles? The main points I stumble into mainly state that some parts of the camp, as small as they can be (fake chimney for example) could have been manufactured after the liberation when the camps were not filled anymore.
I guess there could be people who really think it happened that way, that's also a problem with any kind of "conspirationism", you'll always have fringe arguments pushed by people, who will hurt the cause more than everything else (like the "no plane" or "Missiles actually hit the WTC").

>>132996371
Heard about that.

Apparently the windows were installed later.
Y?

(Heard 2 versions)
1.) DURING WAR. So guards could move the bodies rather than fuck around in the dark
and
2.) POST WAR. so people could actually see what what had been going on in there, without having to enter the area so many had been killed.
(Spiritual/Superstitious belief.)

Unsure of the ACTUAL reason, however even YOUR photo points to the fact that these windows were added later - look at the masonry around the windows -It is not consistent with the rest of the room.

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>>132990813

See pic related. Explain me why the germans wanted to have capacity to burn the entire camp population in just a couple of weeks. Are you going to tell me that disease killed tens of thousands in auschwitz in a manner of days?

>>132992352
>Both Germans and Soviets murdered hundreds of thousands of members of Polish intellectual elites
> Polish intellectual elites
And nothing of value was lost.

Interwar Poland was a joke.

>>132990020
>Based off of
What's your point?

>>132996371
>gas chamber
>windows

For what purpose?

>>132997733
Doctored source, sir Nationalist View, but then again we've been over this with you haven't we?

>>132996945
The first link says there was AA fire at German planes coming from that town as well as cavalry in there. Seems like a good place to drop bombs.

In the second link, the only soirce provided saying it was intentional bombing of civilians and all that doesn't work. I clicked the source Wiki used and I got an error 404.

The last link seemed justified as well, as the intent of the bombing was to support German troops fighting resistance in the city. That city was also of industrial importance as well.

>>132996519
Ty kurwa debilu xD

Look, you are so closed in your small mindset that you CAN'T even accept the fact that there are non-Jewish people who are aware of Holocaust industry, and yet at the same time they don't deny the Holocaust, they want to rather focus on the subject how Holocaust was not solely the Jewish tragedy.

You can't accept the fact that not only Jews were killed in camps, as the Jewish media and Holywood taught you, but also millions of Catholic Poles. The fact that the same "based" Poland that opposes Islam in modern times also absolutely hates the idea of German supremacy and Nazism simply blows your mind.

Well understand then this, faggot. You see Nazism as a tool to "liberate the white man". I see Nazism as a murderous ideology and a tool of German supremacy that poses a threat do my Nation. We don't need your historical revisionism to oppose Jewish lies and cultural marxism, thank you. We will do it in our old-school, Catholic, conservative way. So fuck off, would you kindly.

>>132996683
As I said, read the quoted post, as ther conditions in various camps vareid drastically.

>>132996803
>didn't try to improve conditions at Birkenau
Well regardless of their "efforts", the effect was the same - hundreds of people starving and dying of diseases a day.

>just know that any camp that had a delousing chamber tried to fight the typhus epidemic
We already come to conclusion that fighting a typhus epidemic was a common sense, and not that Germans somehow cared about the prisoners. I can also link you to reports of prisoners about general mistreatment and execution in the camps, but I already know that you will dismiss them as "lies", because apparently only the reports fitting your narrative can be true.

>>132996942
See >>132994634

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>>132991484
Because Communists are Bolsheviks, and Bolsheviks were Jews, and Jews control the media.

If you were a Jew, depending on a false "holocaust" story for sympathy, would YOU want people to know that the largest REAL genocide in human history, the slaughter of around 30 million White, Christian Russians, was carried out under Jewish leadership.

The truth is something they cannot afford to get out, so they bury it, just like they tried to bury all the dead, White bodies in Russia, Poland, and the rest of Eastern Europe (the Holodomor).

The murderers control the media, so they hide their murders and make themselves out to be victims of murder.
And dupes fall for it.

Communism is a Jewish stain on humanity.

Why did Hitler hate jews? Rabbi Yosef Tzvi ben Porat will explain to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

>>132997405
Russians can't build huts and fences that survive 60 years.

>>132997899
>You don't believe in all these things I believe in a priori
>So can you kindly fuck off

Why even write such a large paragraph if you are going to be so stupid?

>>132997332
>but you didn't explain tome what proof there is for the 6 million number
Where did I even talk about 6 million?

There were 3 millions of Polish victims of German regime, that's what I know for sure.

>>132989029
Either shit servers or banned, this shit doesn't load.
Had to archive it to see it.

>>132998062
used 2 year old archive*
Not sure if it's still up. Can anyone confirm?

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>>132997958

>>132993937
Don't worry, he won't... Non of his statements hold any merit.

>>132996945
Wielu
Listen, i know that you are polish, but yiu don't have to only take the polish historian's account. If you actually read the article, it is acknowledged that there is a ton of conflicting interpretarion of and information about that event. Read it.
Frampol
Same thing. Germans report troop movements, bomb, postwar analysis decides tgat it was a sadistic experimental/terror bombing.
Rotterdam
Ah yes, a defended target.
>884 civilians killed
>LVA and MLD virtually destroyed.[2]
>The objective was to support the German troops fighting in the city, break Dutch resistance and force the Dutch to surrender.
Ah yes, i can see clearly now.

>>132997899
>millions of Catholic Poles
https://codoh.com/library/document/1459/

Please read the book, it explains everything. It even contains a document from Himmler saying that the inmate death rate from typhus must be reduced "at all costs", in his words. They did try to fight these epidemics. The only thing I'm trying to prove is that they didn't have genocidal intentions, and I think I've done that well so far

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>>132981710
>meme
>fascist flag

This is why I hate /pol/ - kill yourself you fucking larper

>That group have tattoos ranging from the low 2,000,000 range upward (highest I have personally seen started with a 4,xxx,xxx).
Bullshit.

Proof: Elie Wiesel claims to have been taken from Hungary to Auschwitz in March 1944. Elie Wiesel says that the number tattooed onto his arm was A-7713. A stands for Auschwitz.

So either you're making shit up or Elie Wiesel did. Which one is it?

>>132997958
Ah, and yet again, you completely avoid the point of post.

BOTH Germans and Russians were murderers. They BOTH run camps where millions of their political enemies were mrudered. It's a fact.

They BOTH followed socialist ideologies.

They BOTH invaded Poland and other European countries in cooperation in 1939 and they BOTH cooperated to destroy the native intellectual elites in invaded countries in order to install their ideological regimes.

None of them was better, so don't even try to cherrypick.

>>132997092
yea my fag ass fucked the pooch on that , was too late to stop it, I repent for my sins

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>>132998053
>More a priori asserting that he only believes to keep his core identity intact and which he will never question
>Even if he were to realize one portion of his beliefs was wrong he would continue to believe muh Holocaust ad infinitum until a public figure he trusts says otherwise
>Because let's be honest, people of this mindset think only in terms of appeals to authority

Sad!

>>132997299
>Auschwitz and other deaths camps were build with german precision.

That infamous precision is totally absent if these camps were intended to genocide millions of people. Probably because they never were.

>>132998187
Yeah I quickly found that out lol. He said he was ignoring me for using Metapedia as a source but his inflated ego got the best of him and he eventually responded to something I said that wasn't even directed at him

>>132998204
With wielu postwar historians are conflicted. There is at least one arguing about frampol due to german reports thst conflict with the polish story.

>>132998346
Both.

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>>132979267

>>132998221
The only thing you've proven so far is that they attempted to fight typhus epidemics, and I responded that it was a common sense as a typhus was a threat to the camp crews as well, regardless of their intentions. So it proves absolutely nothing.

>>132998043
>I won't even bother with reading the post or responding to specific points, I will just dismiss it as a whole
Way to spot a faggot.

>>132997838
>It's fake because i say so!!

Great argument, Really made me think. I guess i'm a denier now! How can anybody argue with such superior logic!

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>>132997104
>It was horrible!
About as bad as the Jap camps in the US at the time.

>>132998346
>So either you're making shit up or Elie Wiesel did. Which one is it?

Both are lying.

>>132998351
>They BOTH invaded Poland and other European countries in cooperation in 1939
Yet only one of them was punished. You say you see Nazism as a threat to any nation? What have you of Communism, hmm?

>>132997646
1.) Not quite., Nazi's and Soviet russia had a Pact. working for similar interests (TAKE OVER THE WORLD PINKY!) and the soviets were mighty pissed when germany broke the pact.
Any leverage they had was used.
ALSO. Allied forces recovered a few Metric fucktonnes of hard evidence. as presented on numerous times during Nuremberg War crimes trials against nazis.


2.) (not so) Fun Fact
The Cremetoria BURNT THE FUCKING BODIES.

Like our crematoriums do here, but they did it en mass.

Reports from NON JEWS in nearby towns frequently report Dirty Snow falling.

Brainstorm here, what happens to the wood in your fireplace/bonfire after its burnt.
ITS GONE.
You don't have anything to go bury, just spread some ash.

3.)
family was alive when it happened and saw the migration afterwards. no jewish relations so not bamboozled.
Not to mention the numerous local reports, Photographic evidence, Witness testimony,
and the all important. - PERPETRATOR EVIDENCE!
The high level nazi's were all giving evidence at Nuremberg that "THEY WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS" "Gobbeles made us kill them" etc.

From the horses mouth.


Go laugh at your pindick, you bastard.
At least thats amusing.

>>132998608
The documents provided in Healthcare in Auschwitz by Carlo Mattogno specifically talk about concern for the inmate death toll of typhus, such as Himmler's letters. Nothing about the camp staff. I'm not going to respond if you keep this up, just read the damn book

>>132990551
Because it takes an hour per crematorium to burn a body, and there was a huge typhoid epidemic.

>>132998639
>It's real because I say so

Great argument, Really made me think. I guess i'm a believer now! How can anybody argue with such superior logic!

Also why aren't you using your tripcode, your syntax is very obvious.

>>132998639
See >>132996925 for instance

>>132979267

The Holocaust is fake because there are laws against saying it is fake.

Is there a law against saying gravity doesn't exist? No, because everyone knows it exists in some form or another, even if the exact mechanics can be unknown or disputed.

>>132998644
Be careful with that image, they could've just gotten off the train, that would explain the crowds of people in the background. Not to mention they aren't wearing inmates striped clothing. I have to admit that the chair is a bit odd.

>>132998639
The document you posted doesn't prove 6 million jews died at the hands of the nazis.

>>132997843
>>132998204
>Wielun
>Farmpol
>As German reports claim
Ah yes, as we now, the Germans claims and propaganda of that time were completely unbiased.

>Rotterdam
>Defended target
Wew lad, the city is defended so according to war conventions, it's completely OK to bomb civilian targets that don't hold any strategic value. Amirite?

Don't even get me started on how Germans systematically conducted executions of both civilians and POW since day 1 of invasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation#1939_September_Campaign

>>132998817
The beating were administered to the perpetrators of Malmedy massacre.

And in what way do the Nuremberg court proceedings determine the validity of documents?

>>132998840
>Murder is not real because there are laws saying you can't murder!!!

>>132998403

Keyword: adaptation. Auschwitz and Birkenau were changing and expanding constantly.

>>132998784
at least 2 hours or more to burn one body actually

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>>132997104
kikes are overtimin' today, how did you see a 4.000.000 series tattoo 'personally' if tattoos were an alphanumeric 5-6 character string , muh lampshades.

I swear, you guys when I asked for my granpas remains they gave me a bar of soap with his concentration camp number pressed into it .

>then asks for a shekel from everyone present

>>132996641
>polish faggots will say bad things about germany

SHOCKING. You hated germans and started the war. You can lie and try your best to deny murdering German prisoners you kept in camps before the war. You can lie about refusing to release your slave labour. You can lie about the hatred your people had for superior Germans. You can lie about the irregulars that led border attacks and raping and killing Germans along the border, forcing them into the woods to flee or away from the border to survive. You can lie about the Gleiwitz radio attack that supposedly instigated the war - an attack Hitler doesnt even mention in the supposed false flag attack by polish irregulars that broadcast that night. You can lie about all of this you fucking dirty gypsy fucks. But the world will know the truth one day and you fucks will die along with the Jews. Every. Last. Fucking. One of you.

https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

>>132985084
This. Although I clicked the link and read a few mins, seems feasible they could burn more jooz than expected but it still doesn't add up.

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1 post by OP?

You twats taking the bait...lol....

>I hate summer fags
New flags = a fag

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