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Where did they come from? Where did they go?
Are the "Mongols" in Mongolia today the same Mongols that conquered the largest empire in history?

Historical sources say that Genghis Kahn was probably white.
>Persian historian Rashid-al-Din recorded in his "Chronicles" that the legendary "glittering" ancestor of Genghis was tall, long-bearded, red-haired, and green-eyed.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

How were they able to achieve such an enormous empire?
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>>132973222

https://youtu.be/1rmo3fKeveo
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>>132973222
>Historical sources say that Genghis Kahn was probably white.
You mean Nordic? Or do you mean low melanin skin color?

Either way, no he wasnt "white", he was a steppe warrior with slanty eyes.
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>>132973222
>Where did they come from? Where did they go?
Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?

The Mongol Empire broke up into a bunch of smaller, yet still very powerful empires, because the descendants of The Great Khan all wanted their piece of the pie. One of the partitions was China and the Mongol dynasty there became Chinese in character and eventually overthrown. In central Asia, the land was ruled by the Chagatai Khanate. In the west of Asia and East of Europe ruled the Khanate of the Golden Horde.

Eventually European expansion BTFO the Golden Horde.
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bumping for curiosity.
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>>132973222

I'm proud of my ancestors.
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>>132973222
>genghis khan
>white
WE
WUZ
KHANS AND SHIEEEEET
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>>132974875
you mean
>Mongols BTFO european knights in every encounter
>pillage and rape as they please
>carve swath through europe
>set eyes on Austria next
>Ogedei dies
>new supreme khan must be chosen
>mongols go back home to choose who will lead them next
>decide they dont want to conquer europe anymore
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>>132976446
>SHIEEEEET
I'm afraid you have it backwards.

First, take the word "shit".

Separate it into the two sounds that make up the word: "sh" and "it".

Then, add a long "e" in the middle: "eee".

"sh" + "eee" + "it" = sheeeit

It's not hard.
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>>132977210
it was a typo faggot
kys
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>>132973222
Whitest genes.
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>>132974875
His sons got fat and lay and fought for power and spent their days eating, riding in tent suspended on four elephants and then the empire crumbled because lazy second generation... like now.
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>>132973222
the mongols are the xiongnu, which is to say asiatic nomadic steppe dwellers.
none of the khans were white.
they were all ASIANS

as to their "empire", it was no such thing.
the mongols were tribal bandits
they would ride into an area periodically and demand tribute (robbery) then ride off, not being seen again for years.

they did not rule or administer any of the areas they "conquered"
only the romans and british did that.
even alexander's "empire" did not survive his death

empire presumes a stable lasting domination of several different ethnic and geographic regions by a single foreign power

lern 2 history.

the mongols were more like a street gang with a rather large "turf"

the residents of their "empire" did not receive any benefits from the mongol "empire", they just got jacked periodically by the same band of slanty eyed brigands with delusions of grandeur.
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>>132978379
Xiongnu were a turkic people. Mongols are just mongols. They're still there in mongolia doing mongol shit.
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>>132973222
The Mongols rode horses when they were toddlers. When there was no food they'd drink horse blood. To get fucked up they'd drink fermented horse milk.
By the time they were adults they were shooting birds out of the sky with heavy bows your narrow ass couldn't pull back once. A trained archer could fire 12-20 arrows a minute. That's one dead enemy every 3 seconds while they ride circles around your bitch ass.
These bows were seriously some shit, they had to use a ring of bone to pull the string back because human fingers weren't up to the task.
When they came to your city, you either immediately surrendered or got your shit pushed in.
Oh, you have walls? We'll kidnap your own people and use them as meat shields. We'll use catapults to throw everything at you, including fucking trees.
Then when they got in, it was head chopping time. And I don't mean a few heads. Every man, woman, child, dog, and chicken gets their head cut off.
When the muslims pissed them off they made the rivers run black with ink from their great libraries. It's why Iraq is a shithole, they never recovered.
Also Genghis Khan wasn't probably white. It's possible sure but red haired green-eyed chinks exist in the tundra.
He was however a bad motherfucker. He got his horse shot out from under him by an enemy archer. He dusted himself off, had that enemy captured, and made him one of his most decorated soldiers.
If you want to know more, Dan Carlin has a long ass podcast about them.
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>>132977159
They literally didn't. They attempted to invade several times but didn't make it because of defeats in battle and low supplies
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>>132978820
>They literally didn't.
wrong
they literally did
they defeated the europeans easily in every encounter
all historians on the subject agree that the Mongols would have brought Europe to its knees if they didn't decide to turn back
they even had gunpowder and primitive explosives which they used to great effect
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>>132978659
> xiongnu were turkic...
no you dumb pile of shit.
We Wuz Khans an Sheeeit

the xiongnu came from the northern steppes of asia west of what is today korea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu
even wikipedia isnt as retarded as your dumb ass.

youre a worthless faggot, and likely a turkroach hiding behind that fascist flag.

try britannica:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Xiongnu

turkroaches are completely useless.
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>>132973222

https://www.mixcloud.com/daniellgough/dan-carlins-hardcore-history-podcast-wrath-of-the-khans-1/
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>>132979178
>the xiongnu came from the northern steppes of asia west of what is today korea.
You mean like where turks came from?
>A number of Xiongnu customs do suggest Turkish affinity, which has led some historians to suggest that the western Xiongnu may have been the ancestors of the European Turks of later centuries.
Hmm consider me btfo I guess.
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>>132979157

a) Decisive Mongol victory resulting in principalities of Kievan State becoming vassals of the Mongol Golden Horde.
b) Mongol victory (First Invasion), Kingdom of Poland subject to Mongol raids. Mongol victory (Second Invasion). Polish victory (Third Invasion), Polish forces finally drove out Mongolian forces
c) Decisive Bohemian victory, Mongols invasion repulsed
d) Mongol tactical victory, Hungarian strategic victory (First Invasion), parts of Kingdom of Hungary was integrated into the Mongolian Empire although stiff resistance prevented them from gaining a foothold. Hungarian victory (Second Invasion).
e) Decisive Croatian Victory, Mongols pillaged much of Croatia but failed to subjugate it due to stiff resistance.
f) Initial Mongolian victory (First Invasion), Second Bulgarian Empire becomes a vassal of the Great Horde. Bulgarian victory (Second Invasion), further Mongolian raids failed and most forces were driven out.
g) Austrian victory, Mongol invasion force failed and was repulsed.


This is copied from Wikipedia. Their invasions of Europe were mixed at best
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>>132979157
There wasn't enough pasture in Europe that's why they had to hang out in Hungary/Ukraine all the time. They were steppeniggers, best at fighting on large flat dry planes with lots of grass, while feasible their military prowess would have been a lot less noticeable here.

Taking that aside they did get their asses kicked in the second invasion of Europe, they took heavy losses without taking much land and that was attributed mainly to heavily armed shock cavalry and castles two things the Mongols had next to no experience with. And before some pseudo intellectual says but m-muh Arab siege engineers, taking a city with a wall is a whole lot different than taking a stone building designed to act as a force multiplier
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>>132979724
point 1:
turkey and anatolia are far SOUTH of the korean peninsula and thousands of miles west across the steppes, deserts and several mountain ranges.
the xiongnu were from IMMEDIATELY west of korea in the mongolian steppes and the ordos desert

point 2:
AFTER the xiongnu tribes split, and one was driven west out of reach of chinese retaliation they came back east nearly 800 years later with turkish corruption, bearing no relation to the mongols of the khanate.
exactly as described in the britannica article.

describing the mongols as "turkic" is a holdover from the ortientalism of the 19th century which attempted to subsume every human endeavor into the european paradigm through the greeks and turks.

you are even stupider than previously thought.
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>>132973222
WE
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>>132980265
Nigger is this bait? Do you even know what a turk is?
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>>132973222
>largest empire in history
You what?
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>>132973222
>conquered the largest empire in history?
someone's telling porkies
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>>132977568
current mongols are manchu rapebabies, real mongols are the one that put largest army in the world to shame
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>>132973222
If Genghis Kahn were white, the DNA would tell the tale. Genghis Khan was Asia's Charlemagne. Everyone is related.
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>>132980380
yes. turks are migrants from the happan civilization who moved west when the indus river changed course moving far to the east leaving them without a reliable water source

TLDR version: filthy gypsies.
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>>132981765
So, yes, bait. Got it. Enjoy the (You)s.
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>>132978379
only british and roman did that? are you mentally handicaped or what?
almost all empires do that, it's empire 101 textbook procedure.
oh wait, it's true, muh white man are the only ttrue empires!! xdDDdd
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By the late 1230s, Mongol armies had begun raiding parts of Russia and eastern Europe. Between 1236 and 1242, these military campaigns–commanded by Subutai (d. 1248), Batu Khan (d. 1255), and Berke (d. 1266), among others–had wrought major devastation across Russia, Poland, Hungary and the Balkans. The cities of Kiev, Pereyaslavl, Chernihiv, Lublin, and other major population centers in eastern and central Europe were sacked and their populations massacred. The defeats of the Polish forces at the Battle of Liegnitz/Legnica (April 9th 241) and the Hungarian military at the Battle of Mohi (April 11th 1241) opened up most of the Balkans and Central Europe to Mongol raids, leading to even more destruction, displacement and massacres. These alarming developments shook the foundations of Latin Christendom. Although the Mongols withdrew from most of the Balkans and east-central Europe soon after (as a result of internal dynamics in their empire), the shock of their invasions and conquests remained.

https://ballandalus.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/mongol-papal-encounter-letter-exchange-between-pope-innocent-iv-and-guyuk-khan-in-1245-1246/
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I find it hilarious how tsundere Finns are about "being Mongol". They will openly claim they are the whitest of the white if you ever call them Mongoloids, but secretly they feel great pride from the fact that people associate them with Mongols.

It's hilarious for two reasons. The first one is the fact that they aren't related to Mongols, at all. They are just natives of northern Eurasia, with a strong affiliation to the Ural mountains, and probably somewhat chinky originally, before they mixed with native Europeans (probably Germanics) in Finland. The second one is the fact that there's no pride to be taken from being Mongol. They are the cockroaches of the human species. Like Turkic tribes, they have never contributed anything to human advancement and have only ever brought death, destruction and disease. The dirtiest and most useless of all humans.
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>I find it hilarious how tsundere Finns are about "being Mongol". They will openly claim they are the whitest of the white if you ever call them Mongoloids, but secretly they feel great pride from the fact that people associate them with Mongols.

You don't clearly understand humor/sarcasm.

Do you really think that finns take mongol joke seriously?

It started from /pol when somebody cherrypicked picture of sami people and said that all finns are mongols. I found it amusing like many finns in here and started feeding it by posting stupid shit like "I'm proud of my ancestors".

It's just meme.
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>>132983865
Dude, I know, but it's also inaccurate to say you're not related to the Sami. Other than Estonians, your closest pre-civilization cousin in terms of prevalent culture are the Sami people. You're more mixed with Germans and Balts than they are, but you still have a common origin. But that doesn't mean that either of you two are related to the Mongols. The "Asian eye" is not exclusive to southeast Asia.
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the first white genocide was a beta rebellion when eskimo-like forest-dwelling dwarfs (mongoloids) revolted against their nordic masters (IEs) and culled them
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>>132986329
>be prehistoric Central Asian
>member of heavy-bearded, aquiline-nosed Yamna, Afanasevo, Andronovo, Tocharian, Scythian, Bactrian, Sogdian
>invent the wheel and chariot
>first to domesticate the horse
>build prehistoric cities
>meet innocent looking Eskimo-like people in the periphery of your civilization, in the tundra
>teach them your ways of the horse and lifestyle, transfer your knowledge and technology
>they adopt and adapt to your Scythian ways
>they expand from their tundra, permafrost territory
>gradually take ownershership of Scythian clay
>for the next couple eons you fail against their onslaughts
>indigigenous Scythians of Asia is now replaced by Mongolids
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>>132986376
Mongolids expanded from Yakutia and permafrost areas, their original homeland. Mongols are Paleo-Siberian and originally lived like and are related to Evenks, Chukchi, Eskimos, Yakuts. They were reindeer herders or hunters.
They met horse riding Scythians and Tocharians, and learned the horse-riding steppe culture from them.
With the newly adopted steppe-lifestyle based on the horse (taken originally from Scythians), Mongolids gradually grew and expanded to mongolia. From there they eradicated the original Scythians/Tocharians and continued genociding Scythians/Tocharians who were indigenous to Central Asia.

Today Central Asia is inhabited by the Mongolids who replaced the Scythians.
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>>132981765
DNA would tell the tale, whitest tale ever told.
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>>132973222
Have you ever wondered why in modern Christmas tradition we do the things we do? What is the origin of the Christmas tree, with the star on top, decorations about, and all the brightly wrapped presents beneath? Or the idea behind Santa Claus who jets around the globe in a magic sleigh with flying reindeer – defying both time and space – to deliver the world’s children a bounty of Christmas gifts? And since when did Santa and the birth of Jesus have anything to do with each other? Where do these stories come from – and better yet: what are we actually celebrating on Christmas morning?
There are answers to these questions. And the history is not so farfetched or even that hidden. You just have to know where to look. And the first place we look is the North Pole; seriously – in ancient Siberia, near the top of the world. The story of Santa and his likely origins begins where he supposedly lives: the frigid North.

Magic mushrooms & Reindeer
https://youtu.be/MkCS9ePWuLU
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>>132989634
>>132973222
http://realitysandwich.com/238049/shaman-claus-the-shamanic-origins-of-christmas/
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>>132973222
The Indo-Europeans were similar to the Mongols. The Indo-Europeans were probably the first to domesticate the horse and this gave them a huge advantage in battle. Indo-Europeans were warlike steppe people who came in and raped the neolithic Europeans.
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