CALIFORNIA YES!

>>132958882
>WE MUST PROTECT THE ENVIRONMET DUDE
>DUDE PAY OFF OUR DEBT OR WE WILL LET THE ENVIRONMENT BURN
I hate this state so God damn much

>>132958882
i'm not up on Parks and Rec, but are we talking Federally own land burning? would think federal government would be responsible for it if that were the case. Hate Cali fags as much as the anyone, though

CA? More like CU.

>>132959053
I'm all for it. you niggers constantly ruin environmental agencies, but cry like shitheads whenever we hold you to your own standards. Our lawn being clean doesn't mean shit if your neighbor's lawn is full of termites, broken vehicles and aids.

I'm okay with this as long as they agree to adjust their budget.

californian genocide when?

>>132959053
>we don't have the money to repair our roads and waterways
>we established funds for illegals to attend college for free and hire legal representation for them
god I can't wait to leave this state

>>132958882
Let it burn. It's close the gap between California's natural beauty with it's urban 'beauty'.

>>132959234
the feds own way too much land, and ca has a point to an extent.
however, they look hypocritical doing so, and also afaik they refuse to clear brush from certain areas bc of some muh-enviroment related nonsense, so the forest fires are more numerous and hard to contain. gotta save the black bearded jewbeetle or whatever.

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>>132959485
most of that beauty is dying because you niggers wont cap your emissions and polution. the global system affects us and if the entire fucking central government is going to disown environmental protections that we rely on to maintain our ecosystem theres no point in funneling millions into the furnace in fighting a losing war against nature. You niggers all dropped the tug of war rope and now you're laughing at us for not holding on and getting demolished in the process

>>132959650
>clear brush from certain areas

That brush is the only thing stopping the hills from collapsing and causing mudslides.

Mudslides in Cali kill more people than Fires.

>>132958882
actually both sides of this is wrong. its wrong to put it on the federal govt but at the same time most of these forests actually need wildfire. a lot of these forests have plants and trees which have vast root networks underground. when they burn only the top burns. it puts nutrients back into the soil so they can grow back again

>>132959423

No other state wants us though, republican or not. I can't really blame em though.

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I live in a seismically stable part of NorCal and hope daily that an earthquake would hit the BA or LA

>>132958882
>Send feds ultimatum to pay your state debts or they'll let wildfires burn out of control
>Feds call bluff, 80% of California burns to the fucking ground

>gibs me dat
If the people of California don't care about their state, I certainly don't. Burn.

>>132960033
yes these plants self combust. Like a day after these fires the place turns green like a jungle and native calfironian trees surivie the fires anyway like Oak Trees and Redwoods.

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>>132958882
Fuck em.

Poopoo

>>132960232
our entire state is a fragile atmospheric microclimate you guys are steadily destroying. you're already burning us to the ground, it's your job to pay for it.

>>132960082
I'm just gunna move and lie about where I'm from. Seems like the sensible option at this point.

>>132958882
LoL
Ok California. You really want to start down this road?

>>132958882
How much CO2 is that releasing into our fragile atmosphere?

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Literally saying: "give us money or we'll let our state be consumed by fire ha we sure have you over the barrel*

Let the fucks burn

The dirt layer has Ash from wild fires going back thousands of years. Its a natural part of the ecosystem here.

>>132960253
Right?

>>132958882
I am probably not grasping the whole story, but I say Trump should let it burn simply because the state cost him the popular vote. They throw money away harboring illegals when they could be using money for things like this.

>>132959234
When California gets a really bad fire, as they always get, the forest service usually pulls people from other regions to assist. It would be a shame if they just pulled out and let the state burn while they scrambled to find replacements at short notice.
Fuck the asshole that run California. A state that nice and full of beauty is wasted on them.

>>132960082
>>132960357
just don't come to texas

>>132960082

We'll take you in Texas.

But here's the Fucking rules

1: you buy a gun

2: you never Fucking vote democrat

3: you never support zoning restrictions or taxes for Fucking anything.

4: you will own a pair of ariat boots

5: you will hate spics but love tejanos

>>132958882
>well let it burn!
Good, it needs to.

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>>132958882
>you guys are steadily destroying
lol wut

>>132959770
>fleg
Didn't even get past that point.
Opinion discarded.

>>132960668
Way too hot and humid for me. But your guidelines sound fair.

>>132960618
They already ruined Colorado. Beware.

>Lived in Cal for 10 years
>Muh largest economy in US
>non stop shitty highway and road
>Travel to Alaska for a meeting
>Smoothest highway I ever rode on

What went Wrong?

Let them burn

>>132958882
>>132959053
>>132959423
Sounds like Cali is on the brink of Illinois-tier with all their dumb communist policies.

If the President cuts their Federal Funding, they are done.

>>132958882
>>132960612
Here's the article for reference. http://archive.is/lcAx7

>typical commie attitude..sips Moet.

>>132960082

As a Texan it's sadly true here. We don't want you and it seems like the flood never ends.

>>132960926
California

>>132961020
The (((Left)))

>>132960668
DEAL!

>>132960777

This is why dallas is god tier Texas clay. Least humidity by far of all the Texas cities.

>>132960082
If I could push a button and kill every person born or has lived in California I would in a heartbeat.

t. Rest of America

>>132960926
Democrats and minorities

>>132958882

Gov Moonbeam begged for Federal funding for the shitty dam during the little rain storm. Now this? Fuck California (I live in CA btw). Fucking welfare queens.

>>132960082
You're contaminated. How can we be certain you won't want to vote for the same shit that caused you to flee, as so many cali refugees do? I do feel bad for the conservatives who want out though, it's just such a risk letting them in.

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>>132958882
>If you let yourself be burned and pillaged, you win.

>>132958882
So wait they're literally saying gibs or we'll self-immolate?
Where's the problem here? let em

>>132960926
Jews control Hollywood, so take a guess. I kid you not, they think having hordes of brown people make them safe for some reason. Not long after they begin to flee because it turns out their brown pets don't like them either once begin to get familiar with them.

>>132960104
>seismically stable part of NorCal

I'm guessing inland of Trinity and north of Modoc

>>132961574
It's not the brown people specifically they want, it's the division. They want as many ethnic groups and communities as possible, as it makes it much easier for them to blend in and be just another ethnic group. They are actually going to be in trouble in fifty years once California becomes 80% or more Latino, they can't blend in it that sort of demography. Which is why I suspect they will at some point begin pushing for more Asian population, to offset the Latinos and 0revent one group from assuming too much control.

will this affect vegas in any way?

>>132960618
If I moved to TX from CA, but Im not actually from CA, am I still a cunt?

>>132958882
>OMG GLOBAL WARMING EXIST YOU SHIT LORD
>NOW PAY ME OR I'LL LET THIS FORREST BURN TO THE GROUND
Democrats are a disease, kill them all, every single one.

>>132960668
>ariat boots
silly question, but are there safety toe ariats? does that even exist?

If another state starts fighting the fires themselves, will the forests become a part of the new state? Squatter's rule bby

I hope I make it out of here before we burn to the ground

>>132959770
source on pic?

>>132959979
And if it burns mudslides won't occur?

>>132961329
I'm from one of the few red counties in CA, probably more right wing than you considering how many beaners and meth heads are around here

>>132960082
GET OUT YOU SOCIALIST BERNIE BRO FUCKS

sincerely CO

>>132960320
I live in New England, Jose. I eat lobster and hard work. And snow.

>>132960357
Please, fuck off. Arizona is full

>>132962687
im certain he's implying that you shouldnt willingly clear brush from a slope greater than a stable slope. you dolt.

THIS IS A STICKUP!
GIVE ME ALL THE MONEY OR I'LL SHOOT MYSELF!

>>132958882
so they're not only metaphorically burning the state down but also literally

interesting

>>132958882
Dude lmao bring in out of state water for us to drink

Instead of paying to extinguish the fire, we should pay to pour a trail of gasoline from the fire to San Francisco.

Like the Dems say: Never let a crisis go to waste.

>>132962906
Doesn't have to ripped out of the ground, just mow sections. Brush isn't just on slopes or near people.

>DUDE CA IS THE WORLD'S 5TH LARGEST ECONOMY LMAO
>CA asks for billions in federal handouts every year
I still want Calexit to happen.

>>132962906
You shouldn't build your house right at the edge of one either but that's never stopped Californians from doing it.

>>132958882
>let it burn
>have to spend billions in emergency services to protect towns and cities when the fires inevitably reach them just because they didn't want to stop them when they were small
California is fucking nuts lmao

We need a General Sherman type figure but for California.

>>132962879
I'm probably going to end up moving to a red part of a blue state.
>muh superior dry heat
Fuck the heat in general, I need to be some what coastal.

>>132963186

>Cockmander Studman

>>132963035
jesus fuckin christ, we were discussing mudslides and people dying from said mudslides.

>>132963115
you can build literally anywhere you want you fuckin commie

>>132962802
That's a part of the problem. You are so accustomed to putting up with there existence and bullshit. I'm afraid where you to move you would be way more tolerant of degenerates where they to show up in your new place. You might hate them as much as I, but you are so used to tolerating them that what I might perceive as unacceptable, you might simply brush off as no big deal compared to california.

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>>132958882
why not just hire some skillful african fire fighter like trudeau did? cheap and efficient

>>132963208
dry heat is a meme, it all feels the same
>inb4 florida autist spergs out about 90%+ humidity

>>132958882
>multiple major forest fires
>a few major landslides
>the san andreas fault line gets activated
>the maxium weight limit of tectonics is reached by too much human infrastructure+beaners
>cali breaks off and flips upside down into the mantle
>Deus Vult.

>>132960320
Nah. We'll just build a wall around your state to stop the fire and keep you in. Then we'll get the popcorn.

>>132963514
>116°F
>"hey but its just dry, drink water and youre good"
>no one realizes the temperature is literally taken from shade
>be in vegas
>100% direct sunlight every waking hour of the day
>old people literally die every year when the temperature turns to double digits

honestly, fuck em

>>132960668
Shut up, we're full. Go to fucking Canada Commiefornians. I hear it has the socialist government with all the Muslims you can imagine there.

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but i thought all the illegals were gonna make us rich like economics professor dr. goldwitz said on CNN...

Who the hell cares? It will burn itself out eventually.

>>132963497

That sounds extremely racist. What you should do is get a bunch of LGBTQ Muslim transwomen to stand around the fire holding hands to remind the fire that diversity is our strength.

The federal government are full retard when it comes to fires on their land.

Live next to federal land. They do no fire control of any kind. Fire on their land burns into your land and you are left on your own.

Fire on your land burns into federal land and they will charge you with arson.

>>132963514
It honestly does, my one exception would be triple digits and 99% humidity. I don't want to ever experience that again.
t. Marine Engineer, who worked in Panama for a few months.

>>132963514
We cant fucking breathe with humidity like that for a quarter of the year, even with Florida accustomed lungs and throat, we cant develop fucking gills man

The only Calli born I have ever met and liked is my mother.

And 85% of that is cause she is my mother.
And the other 15% is that she was just born there cause my grandfather was stationed there.

I love my mother and like the ability to see her regularly, but I would honestly be willing to settle for holiday visits only if it meant getting ALL the fucking Californians out of my state.

>>132964007
>triple digits and 99% humidity
its almost like 110F sucks when its raining and it gets hard to breathe

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>>132959053
>Commiefornia burns
>Commies don't have the wealth or infrastructure to leech resources from the rest of the country anymore
>Environment is no longer held back from its natural recovery-and-rebirth cycle artificially

>>132963256
>can
>should
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it, nigger?

>>132963256
>you can build literally anywhere you want you fuckin commie

Except federal land or without proper zoning or native land.

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>>132964372
or land that already has buildings on it, or land that you dont own, or land on the moon

>>132964253
Whatever you are wearing is instantly soaked in sweat. The Boiler flat on my ship had highs of 145F and maintenance still had to be done. We were only allowed to work for 5 mins before we had to leave and cool down, as one crew member got heat stroke and passed out after 8-10 mins. I'd rather deal with subzero temps again than that shit.

>>132964168
I've lived in CA 1/5 of my life, and I only know a small handful of native Californians. They all left in the 90's.
I'm ready to bail, just haven't figured out where though.

>>132963497
>>132963754
>Fat, black, cripple, dykes are hard to find.

>>132958882
>value the life of your minority population that you're willing to see them burn to death just to prove a point
Is California the most racist state? Is it, dare I say, /ourstate/?

>>132958882
feds should re-po all military bases and national parks and interstate highways in Cali and the cut off all federal gibs

>>132958882
that isnt ancapism thats tolartarinism

>>132961177
It's only the coast that's liberal. The rest is actually pretty normal and hates the coast with a burning passion. I even believe the northern part wants to be it's own state of some shit but I don't follow that much on that kind of thing.

>>132964945
>tolartarinism
It's what now?

>>132959423
>become the only state where illegals can openly break the law
>they come flooding in to rape and sell drugs
>state catches fire again
>"debt too big. let it burn"
>state becomes a giant oven with mexicans as fuel
Is California run by former Democrats who are too afraid to publicly admit they've joined Trump and are now making America great by "accident?"

>>132964885
They're gonna lose a fuckton if Trump ever gets that cutting funding to sanctuary cities passed

>>132964102
If you fight the fire, it wins!

>>132965014
tolartarinism, its being a fucking brute california is the brute of the united states. Demands everything and wants to sign shit with anyones say in anything like that one deal with the chinese

>>132958882

For as much hippy save the earth bullshit as California exports their state conservation and environmental practices fucking suck shit. It's bizarre watching save the whale fucktards completely fuck their state's water conservation into fucking oblivion.

>>132960668
Deal, but I'm headed back to fight for Jefferson when the war comes. Homeland and all that.

>>132965076
>tolartarinism
Are you really going to double down on that? Are you sure you don't mean totalitarianism?

>Live innawoods halfway between giant rim fire in '13, and smaller but hit more houses butte fire in '15
Plz guys, only the bay area and LA are packed with liberals, the rest of the state is mostly republican. The places that would burn are mostly republican

>>132961177
So would I.

t. Californian

>>132964732
i totally get it man. ive had to do asbestos surveys in burned buildings in 110-115F, which kinda require tyveks and respirators. it sucks

>>132965211
Sadly true, the liberals are isolated from most of their shitty decisions they place on the state. Eg: Marin county, despite being in the SF Bay Area and one of the most liberal counties in the country, refuses to build (((affordable housing))) for the ever increasing housing crisis there.

Good, forest fire prevention is a scam designed to waste tax payer money anyway.

>>132958882
Let them fucking burn : cannot wait for this to happen, and for LA to burn to the ground from an antifa riot.

maybe they will even force the feds hand to invade and oust the state leaders, and mass executions of the massive corruption there.

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>>132965247
That sounds miserable, you just reminded me of the days we had fire drills and had to full suit up in turnout gear and put of mock fires.

>>132958882
California thinks is the the best state when literally any state could have became sillicon valley or the "Next Thing."

The problem is that all states are not at the extreme opposite of the east coast. Why become the "Next Thing" and stop at Missouir?

Truth is, no one fucking cares about CA except people who live in CA or want to live there because of the weather.

"Want to live there because of the weather." Fuck it, let those cunts burn.

>>132965862
Know what would be hilarious? a NK nuke hitting LA, and then no fire service to help people : and lack of national guard because they refuse to obey federal law.

>>132966074
>Know what would be hilarious? a NK nuke hitting LA, and then no fire service to help people : and lack of national guard because they refuse to obey federal law.
ROFL. Not saying NK should do it...but definitely not disagreeing either.

(((Forest Fires)))
>Small fire starts
>Fire department immediately sent to take care of it
>Doesn't get to burn much of anything
>Dried wood and oils in the soil don't get burned up
>Flammable materials continue to increase because every fire gets put out
>Pretend that you are doing the right thing for the enviornment now that if a fire starts, it can destroy half the forest
What's the point, just tough out one bad fire and let nature fix itself

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>>132960668
>hate spics but love tejanos

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>>132958882
I don't see the issue.
Let that fucking state burn.
Let's dam up the Colorado river while were at it and watch them really dry out. We can charge them by the gallon we let down.

>>132965176
oh ok my browser doesnt have auto correct for this word. I do mean what your saying

>>132962477
Nigga yes, there's both steel and composite (I own the latter because they're lighter). Then you can get electrical safely, Insulated, etc, etc.

>>132960668
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

>>132966375
Liberals think the most important thing in environmentalism is they're feelings. That's why they think hunting is bad.

The federal government owes California money, not the other way around. California firefighters extinguished fires on FEDERAL lands and there is an agreement in place that says the feds will reimburse them for that. Feds have been bullshitting to avoid paying them. Feds are in the wrong here.

Obviously they are not going to let a fire burn through California for 18M USD. The Emergency Services Director coming out publicly with this is being done in an effort to avoid legal action.

>>132963514
>dry heat is a meme, it all feels the same
uhh no.. nope and again nope

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>>132958882
>points gun at own head
>give me the money now or I'll shoot

Hahahahahahaha I fucking hate California.

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>It's the other states that pollute everything!

>>132958882
>Claim to be one of the biggest providers of the US
>Constantly need outside support
Cucks have no self awareness.

>>132965409
Yep.
The Bay Area has a fairy efficient public transportation system. But BART will never go up into Marin, despite the money it would bring from tourism, because the elites in Napa don't want it, and have fought it tooth and nail for decades. Improve the bridges to the north bay? NO. Bring BART up through there, to help the congestion on the Golden Gate and Benicia Bridges? NO. I dimly remember reading that when the high speed train project was approved, Napa fucked up the plans because it meant running the tracks through the north bay.
Don't get me wrong, the North Bay is beautiful. Sonoma, Marin, Mill Valley - but it's completely stifled by rich liberal fucks, because "Muh property values" and "brown people might come here".

>>132963208
As long as it's not Washington.

you will see a YUGE conservative revolution in California in the next 10 years.

>>132960668
>5: you will hate spics but love tejanos

fuck that.
Texas is white clay.
We fought a war and took Mexico City to make it ours.

>>132968111
> you will see a YUGE mexican conservative revolution in California in the next 10 years.

>>132965862
This is like saying "if Donald Trump weren't a billionaire celebrity, he wouldn't be president." "Missouri" in the exact same place as California would just be California with a different name. The history and geography make a state what it is. Any "next thing" could have been done anywhere if you want to get philosophical. Your argument is dumb.

Recall that California became a state because of the Gold Rush, where 300k risk-takers reached California without death, tens of thousands of which became successful directly or indirectly as a result of gold. California's success is literally based on taking a bunch of ingenious people from the union and some more from the rest of the world.

>>132958882
Isn't the only thing holding up calis economy there tourist industry and isn't that super flimsy at best hmm you would think keeping tourist attractions like parks and forests in one piece would be kinda top priority then.

>>132968292
Actually, yup. You're going to find that many of the Mexicans in California are going to realize "iOh shit! If we're not careful this place is going to turn into the Madreland" and they're going to vote for tighter border security & things like that.

I think if a governor ran with the platform of "If elected governor of California I will support the building of the U.S. Mexico border wall in California and will grant amnesty to a (insert large number) of Mexicans who have not committed major crimes or drug crimes." would win a landslide.

Most Mexicans in America would be rooting for the wall if they had guaranteed they wouldn't be forced to the other side of it.