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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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better dead than red
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>marxism-leninism
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>>132957320

Even better
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>>132962649

>nationalism
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Hey is that Finnish kid in here?

>>132963357
Hi!
I am an international fascist.
Does that make you mad?
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It's getting sad at this point, it's a shame the autistic Spanish and finn anons can hide behind meme flags
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You, sir, are an idiot, communism will never work. And never has.
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>>132965137

Because it is the future dummy.
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>>132965787
3 is bullshit
5 is bullshit
6 is bullshit
7 is bullshit
8-9 bullshit
99% literacy bullshit

Literally almost all of them are bullshit
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>>132957320
When the communist doesn't understand communism.
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>>132965137
Real Communism has never been tried.
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>>132966356
Because real communism is impossible, at least currently. It would require an incredible amount of surplus.
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>>132966356
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>>132965137
>>132966356
It was tried in the USSR and worked very well.
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>>132965903
It is all true
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>>132966457
And how is the USSR doin these days?
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>>132966462
>communism killed lots of people, there is your proof that the communists solved unemployment, ended homelessness, holdomor didn't happen, everyone was smart and happy

lmao commie
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>>132966560
Pretty well after that drunk Yeltsin got ousted actually. Your sanctions are having 0 effect no matter what CNN keeps trying to peddle.

>BUT ITS CAPITALIST NOW

A lot of major firms are state-owned, there's a large level of involvement in the economy by the state. There is the problem with remnant oligarchs, of course, which were caused by the hypercapitalism of the Yeltsin years.
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>>132957320
I wonder why commies don't gather in some barely-governed shithole and set up shop there, starting from scratch, after all it wouldn't be a problem with them being internationalist and all, I'm sure there are suitable places for this all over africa and south america
This would accomplish the following:
-no expropriation warranting them getting rightfully killed
-voluntary participation by an ideologically aligned population
-a case study and a model for similar endeavours
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>>132965787

lol fuck off faggot. just make up more shit for impotent "be me" post. I hope you fucking mother gets raped to death..everything you have listed here is a lie. kill yourself
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>>132957320
Kys commiea arent human
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>>132966685
USSR and Eastern Bloc were nationalist countries, despite your US Cold War propaganda.
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>>132966560
>>132966672
Reminder.

At a meeting with opposition leaders in 2012, then-president Dmitri Medvedev was reported to have said, "There is hardly any doubt who won [that race]. It was not Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin."
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Take your Jew religion somewhere else commie
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>>132966776
>USSR
>nationalist
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>>132957320
SAGE
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These threads are fucking pathetic, if you like gommiesm so much move to North Korea. Capitalism made your computer, capitalism made this website.
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>>132966776
Imperialist***
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just fucking kill yourselves...communism lost everywhere spectacularly after cause more suffering then any form of social economic organisation in history. you are all little beta faggots and you should move out of you mums house and then kill yourself by getting raped to death by pigs you fucking losers
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>>132966835
Read a book dumbass.

>>132966868
Would trade all of that for a degeneracy-free society. Free from Hollywood-enforced promiscuity.
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>>132966952
>Read a book dumbass.
>is commie

How about you read a book by marx, called "On The Jewish Question"
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>>132966776
wtf are you smoking, they acted differently, namely USSR devouring many of them, redrawing historic borders with population relocations and the like
they are the reason russia went from mostly white+indigenous little groups to growingly central asian mongoloid and mohamedan
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Communism started with the USSR and died with it. NK is a Cold War leftover that won't last another decade.
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>>132967003
Already have. And? I'm not a US-tier retard.

>>132967021
Those minorities have been in there since the Russian Empire. They did resettle Germans from Kaliningrad, obviously, they wanted to keep it. They also did a population exchange with Poland to make clear the new borders.

>American education
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6th grade lol

Nazis are low iq cucks
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>132966356
MUH REAL COMMUNISM!
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>>132967393
At least we have food.
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how do commies deal with the fact that we (non-shitskins) are in a postindustrial information era and at the cusp of entering a truly distributed digital economy that is likely to break all traditional means of coercion (monetary system, taxation)? it's the exact opposite of totalitarian lobotomy you stand for and very individualistic at its core
for the sake of argument, what would be your value proposition for people already taking part and benefiting from it?
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>>132967393
I went to that site and it doesn't even say that.
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>>132967660
When you invade foreign nations and steal their resources, sure you gonna have food.
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A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions.Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.
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>>132966952
>Read a book
says the gommie oh that is rich. maybe you should read why the gommie empire fell because it simply does not work.
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>>132969445
more like it would free them from food, property, future, progress, and ultimately life
consider the fact that Pareto principle applies everywhere: you'd lose top 10% immediately, then 10% of the remainder and so on until all that's left are mouthbreathing commie retards who run out of wealth to steal from their betters
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