Is space colonization possible?

>>132952882
Today? lol

>>132952882
It's the only way humanity survives long-term

>>132952882

Only in Uranus.

>>132952882
Yes

>>132952882
Yes, but not something anyone would want (unless it's on another planet).

>>132952882
It is but humanity doesn't deserve it. You really think we should go to Mars just to have white women invite hostile aliens in because of "extraterrestrialophobia" and "species-ism" and wipe us all out?

>>132952882
hmmmm... yes, maybe
uh- no?
dunno...
today? uhhh maybe, okay.

Sure, after we remove kebab

>>132952882 would take too long for me to care that far in the future...

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>>132952882
Don't bother even dreaming about it.

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Guys. It's just a simple chat bot with some image recognition.

>>132952882

Yes, just kill off the jew.

When the west is dead. Don't let the jew in. No matter what they offer you; just don't let them in.

Your the last hope of the human race

>>132952882
the water some how hasn't tsuanamied the land below

>>132952882
no

Space doesn't exist.

>>132952882
Yes, of course it is.
Here's a good resource: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g

>>132952882
No, space doesn't exist. Earth is Flat my dude.

I did not believe it could be possible but if we get AI right it will be very possible. If we don't nuke ourselves either.

>>132956457
How the fuck...FLAT EARTH PEOPLE EVERYWHERE

>>132952882
not for you

>>132956499
Nukes are hoax, dinos are a hoax, holocaust was a hoax. RESEARCH FLAT EARTH.

>>132952882
>tfw when you look around and picture where the niggers would be in this situation
That's how you know you're /pol/

>>132956383
thats because the artificial gravity generated due to the rotation of the structure.
see the ship in 2001 space odisey,same shit.

>>132952882
Yes.

Profitable? No.

>>132956622
K

Basically while you can build it there is no economic point to do so and whoever built it will quickly go bankrupt and be unable to maintain it.

>>132957124
when the robots take most of the jobs people will have to focus in something useful.
space colonization will be fine.

No:
too expensive
long term genetic damage from radiation
degradation in vision from low g.
minor "maintenance issue" becomes an extinction event.

>>132957277
>robots take jobs
>people have no jobs or income
>they somehow afford 300k/mo rent on an apartment in a space station.

Care to elucidate?

>>132957366
thats beyond my knowledge but just see in 10 years when the millions of truck drivers lose their jobs due to the autonomous car.
people will have to do something with their lives.

>>132957527
>people will have to do something with their lives.
Hedonism and crime, probably. Why would anyone from that sort of culture want to live in space? What would they do up there besides waste resources since robots do all the work even in the space station?

>>132952882
Humans will never even make it to mars but we can still try

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>>132952882
>Is space colonization possible?
Not for /pol/lution particulates, it isn't.

/pol/tards will serves as the lesson for the colonists of what NOT to become...

>>132952882
Sure. Is it worthwhile doing right now? probably not we need to continue reducing costs. The moons of Jupiter and Saturn look like good candidates for future colonisation and mega structures.

>>132952882
no

it's a pipe dream, also immediate osteoporosis sets in in zero gravity

>>132957527
What they will do with their lives is destroy the autonomous trucks and any company that decides they must use them. This is what everyone is going to do eventually in response to the robots taking over the jobs. What will be the point of having nearly universal unemployment? It will be total chaos people will be driven insane by the complete upheaval of society and by no one having a place on the world. The ones that only become revolutionaries will be considered bland and boring.

>>132957727
why would anyone make something ever?
one big motivation is pride,we want to know if we are able to.
also crime should be less frecuent if you have a basic income and the prizes of all things tend to be zero.
hell even buildings can be made with 3d printers now.

>>132953011
Lurk more to discover the truth behind what happens if we ever encounter another space-flight capable alien species. hint: complete extinction for one or both species, nearly instantly.
>>132957527
the truck drivers are predominantly white males, so if they protest, it either won't be covered by the news at all or it will be completely put down. I predict that the millions of newly unemployed truck drivers will be attacked by the liberal hegemony as lazy for not having jobs despite their white male privelage. Perhaps, since we are talking 10 years in the future, which means after Trump's eight years, we might have some kind of Chelsea Clinton type liberal president. She will remove all welfare, govt housing, and low level government job opportunities from any poverty-stricken whites, in order to "redistribute the privelage". This is the next phase of the planned extinction of the white race. Non of the truck drivers will reproduce and within a single generation, whites will have dwindled into a mere slice in the population chart of America's ethnicities.

>>132959397
Why would an extinction occur? Ethnocentrism on the part of the superior race?

Please elaborate

>>132958750
>why would anyone make something ever?
Yeah that'll be what people from a society where robots do all the work would think. "why bother man, a robot will just do it better"

>one big motivation is pride,we want to know if we are able to.
We could do a billion other things for something as vague as pride. Literally anything else, like a mile high poop emoji would be something people could derive pride from since it's a great work of engineering despite being a big worthless shit, just like a space station.

>also crime should be less frecuent if you have a basic income and the prizes of all things tend to be zero.
You said that people still lack for things to do and are capable of taking pride in their hard work. So you end up with criminals who commit crimes because they're bored and it's a challenge. They don't even care about the item, just the fact that they stole it.

>hell even buildings can be made with 3d printers now.
Not really. Only the chinese do that because they're basically wasps and don't mind living in paper or mud.

>>132959532
>Why would an extinction occur? >Ethnocentrism on the part of the superior race?

Niggers outbreed us because they lack traits like responsibility.

>>132959532
It's not about superior race. It's the fact that, even now, we are capable of firing nukes render the entire planet uninhabitable. In the world, there are some 15,000 nuclear missiles, and it only takes a few hundred to basically wipe out every last trace of life on earth within a week. Should we encounter another race, it would stand to reason that they would be capable of the same thing. Which means, if we want to be sure that we won't be instantly exterminated as race, our only option is to exterminate their race. And the same goes for them - So, then, the game becomes a race to destroy eachother as fast as possible. Whoever strikes first wins. Or, both lose. That would kinda suck.
I don't know enough about the topic but you can probably search for more on pol archives. There's more that I missed

>>132959927
Oh wait I forgot, you can also shoot missiles to spin a planet out of it's orbit. Instant annihilation in this case. Nothing on earth would survive being 1% closer or further from the sun, basically.

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>>132952882
We must to go further if we want to survive, this planet is getting shittier and shittier with rising minorities.

>>132957363
only guy in this thread with his head on straight right here

>>132959927
We're fine as long as we never use anti-matter for a spaceship. Signals can't punch more than a lightyear or so through the background radiation.

>>132960291
It's totally doable there's just no point to doing it.

>>132952882
Not with diversity quotas it isn't.

>>132957363
questionable from a moral perspective, but I theorize that it is possible to genetically engineer a human capable of space life. We would some serious nazi human experimentation going on though. /pol/ would approve

>>132960291
He pointed out reasons why we SHOULDN'T
Not if we CAN'T

We could build a moonbase if we wanted to, but that doesn't mean we should.

Yes but the people in power and the sheep who "elect" them will never ever prioritize it.

>>132952882

No not really. Singularity-type thinking assumes there will be antigravity technology, matter replicators, ftl technology, magic anti radiation technology, etc, but nothing really guarantees that. So far in my lifetime Moore's Law has died. Its too delicate now and in the foreseeable future to colonize space. Materials are too weak. All the closed biosphere experiments they do on earth fail. 0 gravity destroys human bodies and rotating habitats are a meme.

>>132952882
no

>>132960587
Mostly because there's nothing anyone could say that would make people turn over the asstonne of cash you'd need to fund such a project.

We could build a base on the moon that people could live in with today's technology. There's just no reason to.

>>132960606
The singularity is entirely based on a flawed narrative of a poor understanding of history.

>>132960291
WTF you taking about? Haven't you seen Titan A.E.?

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Yes, and we should do it

Especially Mars and some of the moons

It might be a little uneconomic, but keep in mind Facebook produces fuck all and it survives financially

>>132952882

Theoretically, but it would be so enormously costly in terms of resources and manpower that it would negate all possible benefits just to attempt it.

>>132960717
K, who pays for it?

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>>132952882
Space colonization is the future of the white race. If you tie getting into space to having decent money, only moneyed (see: white) individuals will get into space.

The big problem is the Jews have money too, and will go to space as well.

Hopefully Mars is enough of a frontier that any suspected Jews can just be disappeared.

Pic related, this man will save the white race through space colonization. The white race was at its height during colonial times. Since we abandoned that we have only suffered.

>>132956457
Do I exist?

>>132960717
Communism reaching, literally, for the stars, vastly outperforming even the largest capitalist power. How will /pol/ recover?

>>132952882
well it wouldn't be self sustainable
not even earth is but comparatively a space colony would starve way faster
if shit breaks you're fucked and space station don't last long to begin with
space radiation is a thing

It's possible but at that point you might as well live under the sea, at least you got water.
Also that pic is complete bullshit

>>132952882
>is it possible
No not unless you want to mutilate the human race.

>>132952945
Quality Fingolian content creation.

>>132960778
Musk hasn't done anything for space travel. He made a reusable rocket. So what, we had one 35 years ago too, and it was also shit.

There are no better rocket fuels than the ones we already have that aren't the worst things ever, like fluorine. Rocketry is too mature to get the tenfold reductions in cost that we'd need to make anything in space worth the money.

>>132952882
No. You're falling into the same trap as evangelical Christians who give fuck all for today while banking on an eternal life in heaven.

Look, this is our only home. We have to care for it or we will go extinct. Once you get that through your head you'll start to give a shit about your home and work to preserve it for future generations of white children.

>>132952882
No.

There's a massive lack of resources in the dead of space between planets and comets. You would need to somehow reel in comets from millions of miles away and extract resources from them.

The idea of colonizing another planet is just as far-fetched. The nearest option, Mars, is a dead planet with a diminishing atmosphere. The core of that planet is dead. Without some means to jump start the core, colonizing Mars is a pipe dream.

>m-muh terraforming

If terraforming becomes possible, there are MASSIVE swathes of land on Earth that can be terraformed into producing natural resources, and without the need for a big space expedition.

Humans living off of Earth is sci-fi circle jerking.

>>132960940
>genetically mutilate the shit out of human beings
>finally have an organism capable of surviving in space
>advanced thought, can maintaining the ship
>looks like a complete abomination, horrifically ugly
>Rude, no empathy, completely devoid of emotion
>avg iq of 60
Was it worth it? Is this what it takes for earth organisms to survive the death of our planet?

>>132960778
>Musk
Hehehe good good goy space colonisation is da future.

Look there's no Space China to flog your shit off to them. There's no Space India to rape it of spices and tea and there's no Space Aztec/Inca Empire to loot pillage and breed out of existence.

Lastly even if there was, odds are our technology and infrastructure is utter shit for what is needed to conquer and subdue an entire planet.

Case in point our greatest super power cannot subjugate and pacify towelhead goat fuckers who still fight because of some kiddy fiddler who married his victim 1400 years ago.

>>132961223
That's the point, we don't have the tech or the imperative to get into space. Therefore it is a pointless thought exercise - at this point in time.

>>132961285
Oil's going to run out. The next chance for space will be in approximately 650 million years.

It costs a shit load of money, and there's currently no reason to have someone move there.
Harvesting resources from celestial bodies is likely to be a long way off and mostly robotic. The first things to be harvested will be asteroids anyway.

I think it would still be worth it somewhat to create a new species that could survive in space. If earth was on the verge of destruction. If humanity can't survive, atleast we could create an alien that could.

>>132961395
>oil is going to run out

Those blue pills must be mighty tasty.

>>132960963
>So what, we had one 35 years ago too, and it was also shit.

It was shit because it wasn't really resuable for fuck. Musk's rockets are able to be sent up and only inspected, refueled, and sent again. The shuttle's rockets needed a massive refit process, which was extremely expensive. They were reusable on paper and that was it.

The speed of launches has significantly increased with the reusable rockets. It has also already reduced the cost by quite a bit.

http://spacenews.com/spacexs-reusable-falcon-9-what-are-the-real-cost-savings-for-customers/

The cost savings is definitely in the tens of millions already.

>>132952882
It was God's original plan for humans to move out and subdue the universe. Let's do our best to make it happen.

we dont know, but thats what were trying to finding out right now

>>132961225
Only a total idiot reprobate would promote world government in any form. Better to colonize other worlds and get away from the cucks and elitists.

>>132960963

we have known how to make thermal nuclear rocket motors since the 50's or 60's. It just takes the balls to get out there and use them.

>>132961497
>the economy can grow forever unabated, goy
Whatever you say.

>>132961807
I know. You can't use NTR to get into orbit, which is the cost that makes space unprofitable.

>>132960963
>One 35 years ago
No, you only had the "Space shuttle", a complete white elephant that took three other disposable boosters to get to orbit, got massively bloated by congressional expectations and went from something that should've been refurbishable in a hanger for minimal cost to having to be near completely dismantled and repaired in a clean room after every single flight.

At least musk's actual rockets go up, come down, get looked at, touched up, then go up again.

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>>132952882
Yes but I don't think we will have enough time

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>>132952882
No. Too little too late.

>ctrl-f
>Sea Dragon
>no results

>>132961562
payload's weight discrepancy is massive to be honest

>>132962225
>At least musk's actual rockets go up, come down, get looked at, touched up, then go up again.

Yeah so did the shuttle. The maintenance was the killer, and there's zero evidence that spacex saved a dime on refurbishing the rocket instead of making a new one.

Musk is not going to make something better than the shuttle. Sorry but your storybook narratives of technological progress are just absurdly wrong.

>>132962324
>you move about on your center of mass while in freefall
>that's why trapeze lines are hooked there.
>looking the same means its the same

Oh jeeze.

>clothes bunch up without gravity
>must be strings.

Oh jeeze. How do they do the women's hair then?

>>132962795
>so did the shuttle
Except it didn't, and I made that abundantly clear. There's no need to be

>Zero evidence that spacex saved a dime
As they're a private company that doesn't release their financials, no, we'll all have to wait until prices begin to develop as refurbished engines enter the mix.

>Musk is not going to make something better than the shuttle
>Your storybook narratives of technological progress
The irony. The shuttle was an unabated pile of trash, and even regular rockets (shuttle wasn't a "rocket" it was a fucking spaceplane with three other strapped on boosters) at the time would have knocked it out of the park if the ULA weren't a monopoly running on cost-plus corrupt contracting.

There are no storybook narratives of "Technological progress" here. The economics of a start up aerospace company that doesn't have cost-plus contracts or industry wide conservative practice, and better computerisation are the only thing that make this real.


I know that the Shittle is the pride of the US, but it fucking blows. It was trash. Stop sucking NASA's pork barrel project dick

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>>132963280
>Oh jeeze. How do they do the women's hair then?

>>132961807
>nuclear
the physics behind a NTR SSTO are against it : the engines weight too much for being usable in the atmosphere
it's not about having balls

>>132952882

It was

But not today

>>132952882
Yes and Asians will lead the charge

>>132963913
>POOPERPOWER BY 2020

>>132952882
Yes, but it will happen on timescales much longer than colonizing the Americas. If the latter took ~500 years, our star system will take ~5000 (add/subtract a couple millennia).

>>132964659
I think that depends on how quickly we can harness AI and resources effectively and how much of people morals get in the way IE genetic manipulation, artificial wombs act.

>>132952882
Yes but only if we can get that Leaf to stop posting how bad the Maker Movement is for humanity. Rangeban Canada and we can conquer the galaxy.

>>132952882
There is no space, so no.

>>132956457
Then what is the sun
In fact what are the stars, black holes,galaxies,, asteriods, Oort clouds ect if Earth is flat stupid boy

>>132953187
As soon as we get off of oil the arabs will go back to the stone age. the middle east wont be a problem.

>>132968023
Just don't bother. Flat earthers will just say it's holograms and lies.

>>132968023
>Then what is the sun
>In fact what are the stars, black holes,galaxies,, asteriods, Oort clouds ect if Earth is flat stupid boy

Stars are not distant Suns. NASA is fake news. All fraud to keep your mind locked in this dream world, dreaming about some distant worlds, when the reality is, we are locked in a prison. There is no "leaving" the Earth. There are no other planets. Earth is stationary.

>>132968497
>Just don't bother. Flat earthers will just say it's holograms and lies.
Or just listen to this guy and keep up the mass hallucinations

>>132957363
Yes:
Earth has a limited amount of energy dense materials
Radiation can be shielded even using water
Centrifugal environments can be used as a substitute for real gravity
minor environmental, geological, or astronomical issue becomes an extinction event.

Remind me again why anti-spacefags deserve not to have their corpses converted into rocket fuel.

>>132969286
Basically you want us to fly the equivalent of a giant space station just to colonise the equivalent of the Grand Canyon but with even more hostile environs than Antarctica.

And you expect people to do it all for free when there is nothing to do once you're over there. No jobs, no trade, absolutely nothing to do there that can support a civilian population.

Tell me why we shouldn't send clowns like you up there first to die for (((humanity)))

>>132952882
Yes

I'm so hyped for Mars that I will kill myself if it hasn't happened before 2040

>>132952882
You first need to get rid of these tards:
>>132968574
And then get rid of niggers

Then maybe

>>132952882
Not until we get the CAES correctly and functional

>>132970056
Basically you want us to ride the equivalent of a giant raft just to colonise the literal opposite side of the World but with even more hostile environs than Africa.

And you expect people to do it all for free when there is nothing to do once you're over there. No jobs, no trade, absolutely nothing to do there that can support a civilian population.

Tell me why we shouldn't send clowns like you over there first to die for (((Western Civilization)))

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>>132952882

We are stuck with Jews. So, no.

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>>132952882
If you just believe... and have really smart people... and spend a lot of money yes.

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Why do you retards get excited for this shit? If its ever possible you think you'll be going? lmao... It will basically be Elysium, the rich will get a better-than-gated community deal where now they don't even have to look at us peasants, while we stay on Earth and be multiculti.

that is the spacepill now eat it up and swallow it down with bleach.

>>132971064
Wrong. (((Their))) vision of space colonization is going to like The expanse where they pack the goyim (along with at least 50% minorities) into cramped quarters within space stations like sardines in a tin where they can be easily controlled. What we need is either Martian fascism or FTL so that we can leave this jewish controlled star system behind entirely.

>>132958031
wtf i hate nasa now we should cut its funding even more and give to dem programs

>>132952929
Could be done today but isnt really practical in an economic sense

>>132968574
There is leaving earth
Flat earth is fake news
I wont die just because we believe there is nothing, I will go to another world and I will.be the one laughing if I do

>>132968574
Because if space really is empty then why the fuck can I look at mars in my telescope

>>132971484
I choose Facism and FTL
There is a CYOA called Space refugee that describes a planet that has facists in space, the faction is described suprisingly as having a great love for its people and one of the most technologicaly advanced one
I want that and i will get it

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>>132952882

Your colony and the people on it will die from cosmic rays if this colony has not magnet field to push them back

this is the biggest problem to solve dude and

STOP DREAMING TO ESCAPE FROM THE PROBLEMS ON EARTH ... please

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray

>>132952966
Speak for yourself Earthling.

>>132957363
Oneill cylinders are large enough that the monolithic structures and landscaping somewhat mitigate the danger of minor maintenance issues.

>>132952882
not with islam as part of our or any future society, no

there will be huge 'space cruise ships' in our lifetimes.
just think about it, there was only 60 years or so between humans flying a wooden plane three feet from the ground and flying to the moon and mars.

>>132959927
That's only level one of the prisoners' dilemma, you have not advanced sufficiently far enough to understand the next level.

Once you get to level three you start to realize the only difference between the bugs and the federation was breeding ratios and social dynamics fighting against nonnegotiable disruptions to genetic continuity.

>>132961161
No, you just build launchers on the comets, queue up the resources, and set the machinery to launch the collected payloads at the best approach to inject them into near earth orbits where they can be collected, stabilised, and then brought into the nearest processing station.

>>132970802
sauce?

>>132952882
of course it is. we dont understand shit about how the world works, give it some time

>>132952882

Not with office park boxes inside an orbital ring.

Why the fuck do globalist Futurist marxists have such terrible taste in fucking everything!!!

It is no wonder they eat children after they fuck them.

>>132952882
It depends on what you mean by space colonization.

Some questions you should ask yourself:

* What is the purpose of the colonization? That is, what is the reason the people are there?

* What is being colonized? Empty space? The main planets? Moons? Orbital habitats? Asteroid belts?

* How many people are going to be colonists?

* Is it feasible to harvest enough resources to survive outside of our biosphere? Remember that humans need quite a bit of nourishment.

* For how long?

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>>132952882
IDK, let's shove all the muslamics we can into a SpaceX without about a day's worth of food and water and see what happens.

we can repeat the experiment until it works, or we run out of muslamic 'astronauts'.

Humanity is fucked anyways, we wasted our precious ressources on servers for mongolian cat trading boards and luxury cars.

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>Is space colonization possible?

We first need to declassify Space. At this time it's classified as top secret. Only small portions of what is known is presented to the public. The Universe is full of life at many levels. Unfortunately or space agencies are perverted and will not share.

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>>132952882
>Is space colonization possible?
Yes, but only if the state takes the initiative and redirects its funds towards achieving that. If we wait for the private sector to do that it might as well take us an entire century.

Therefor, the most logical conclusion is that we need a powerful accelerationist state to push technological development to its limits at all costs and achieve what is currently impossible, so the private sector can then absorb it and manage it on its own.

The difference between such a Technocratic state and the status quo Democracy is that the democracy wont intervene into the free market and let it develop its own means to colonize the space (probably later this century), while the Technocracy will develop that for the free market and then let it develop its own means. The difference is time, and we don't really have enough of it as we're all crammed onto a single planet that can be nuked into extinction, therefor its most logical to accelerate the process and adopt a technocratic government that achieves it as soon as possible, for the sake of all of humanity.

>>132977597
Nuking the planet into extinction is a meme. Nuclear weapons are not a threat to the species, hardly even to civilization.

The only thing that is a threat to our civilization is climate change and increasing co2 levels which cause impaired brain function.

Oh, and the technocracy you're looking for is China.

If China manages to do something amazing like kill off all of its old people thereby alleviating its population bomb problem they may well save civilization.

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>>132952882
all it takes is robots and a.i
AND WE ARE IN THE STARS MY DUDE

but robots and a.i spook jews so it might take a wile to rip that bandaid off
but trust me ITS COMING OFF

>>132977804
Technocracy isn't a state that is controlled by people with PhDs, ignore that retarded definition from wikipedia. Technocracy (techno - technology, cratos - rule) means a technologically-oriented state where technological advancement is the primary goal above all else.

China is not a Technocracy. The US during the Space Race was, so was the Soviet Union. Notice how that was also both countries' Golden Ages even if they were the ideological polar opposites

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>>132977973
Oh, you're a retard. I regret responding to you.

>>132978028
Quality argument my fellow triggered chink

Please point out what was retarded from what I wrote.

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I fucking hope so

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>>132952882

not with this humanity

>>132952882
No. Humanity must go trans-human or something for even the slightest chance of surviving space radiation.

>>132978096
holy fuck just go back to bredddit with your formatting and middle school tier beliefs

>>132952882
WE WAS SPACE NIGGAZ N SHIEET!!!

>>132978263
So that's what you had to resort to - replying from your phone pretending to be someone else?

>>132952882
Humanity is cancer, let's try to keep it contained.

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>>132978375
NASA is a cancer. It has been that way since Reagan classified Planet X and the UFO phenomenon in 1984.

>>132952882
Today it is not.
Because for one there's a need to create a social order that would maintain a society properly.
Can't have Communism in space but Capitalism is equally unfeasable until there's a larger population and the enviroment is safe enough to maintain it.

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>>132975889

Possible or not, sure as hell won't happen within our generation.

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It would be quite possible we would have something going on Mars, perhaps even the fucking moon by now if Western civilization hadn't been fucking Jewed as hard as it has and then had BILLIONS of currency spent on keeping places like Africa etc. "stable & afloat".
WE COULD'VE USED ALL THAT MONEY TO ADVANCE OUR GENETICS TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD PUT LAMIAS INTO EXISTENCE BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE JUST HAD TO FUCKING BELIEVE MUH 6 SHEKELLION JUDEN AND "SAVE" THE FUCKING NIGGERS!!!!

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>>132952882
I don't think Space as we know it is real.

Nasa is Hollywood.

>>132952882
Absolutely, it would have been possible as early as the 60's even. The real problem is money. States spend so much money into feeding niggers and sandniggers that there is no money for real projects anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMbI6sk-62E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1d_tIDcEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGcvv3683Os

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>>132979647
54% of our tax dollars goes to the military. They don't tell the public what they do with it. Massive waste and fraud is for certain.

>>132952882
only when we manage to simulate the same gravity as on earth

>>132979831
Looks interesting, thanks anon.

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>>132980226
this is bullshit, the discretionary budget is a small part of the total budget, the rest is mandatory spending. the largest part of the US budget is social programs for university fuckheads and other social parasites.

>>132952932

The other way might be to stop destroying the planet that we're already living on? 'Just a thought'

>>132979831
Really like this guy, he even has a good sense of humor about his impediment.

>>132980954
>university fuckheads
Social programs are mostly to the benefit of poor people, old people and women (especially single mothers). University fuckheads only get government guaranteed loans.

>>132981669
you're right, i wasn't clear. i meant the spending that goes to university faculty and staff to blow on nonsense that has nothing to do with education. i'm not sure how much defaulted student loans cost but it's probably not cheap either. the point was more that the majority of spending is not military, i get tired of seeing that meme.

>>132982455
"Donald Rumsfeld announced the Pentagon had lost track of $2.3 trillion dollars back on 9/10/2001"

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>>132960606
No need for any of that tech to make mass scale space development possible.
We could build an orbital ring today without any new tech. We could build a Dyson Swarm today without any new tech.

The orbital ring is amazing due to it's low cost, no need for any new materials and it gives access to orbit for pennies on the kilogram up to orbit and to speeds of 18km/s.

Also how else are you going to literally drive your car into orbit? Although even I will admit that mass transit to the ring is more viable.

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Stars and planets are lights on the firmament not objects in outer space. The universe isnt real.

Genesis 1:14-15
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

A Star Close Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tgxTCDjvBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ukxGhX0w0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afjcaJpMWyc

>>132977804
China isn't a technocracy, though. It's a ching-chong-ocracy.

>>132981018
Kill yourself retard.

>>132985656
most accurate description I've heard before.

>>132952882

Space colonisation is not only possible, but it's already happened.


"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity..... anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." - Ben Rich, Lockheed Martin

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what a star REALLY looks like

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>>132983342

>>132952882
Not without a cheaper way for getting stuff off the planet.

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>>132956457

Space does exist. Not only that, but Earth is hollow. Earth is hollow with polar openings that lead into its hollow interior. Outer Earth governments know about this, but are not telling the masses.
Daily reminder that there was supposed to be a voyage to the North Pole in 2007 to find out if there's an opening at the North Pole that leads into the Inner Earth World (and thus prove once and for all that Earth is hollow). The leader of the expedition was Steve Currey and he suddenly died from a brain tumour shortly before the expedition began so all of the money they got from people who were going to join the expedition was refunded. The new leader of the expedition was Brooks Agnew and the new expedition was meant to be in 2013, but shortly after THAT expedition was about to begin, his film crew suddenly vanished without a trace so THAT expedition was cancelled too (and, once again, the money they got from people who wanted to join their expedition was refunded). The expedition was/is known as the 'North Pole Inner Earth Expedition'. Here's a link to the official North Pole Inner Earth Expedition page:

http://www.x2-radio.com/phoenixsciencefoundation/npiee/index.html

Flat Earth theory = Reddit

Hollow Earth theory = /pol/

Also, Terry Smith was an Alaskan bush pilot associated with this expedition who agreed to fly directly over the North Pole to see if there was an opening there but he suddenly died in a plane crash on August 9 2010 before he could make that flight. NONE of these incidents are (((coincidences))). There is a world inside our world.

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>>132952882

Space. Doesn't. Exist. Fag.


https://youtu.be/0t0qXTAa1yI

>>132985769
Why hide them ?

>>132952882
UCHUU SEIKI DABURU O SEVENTY NINE

>>132959927
That's not what would happen when twi civilizations meet. Earths history is replete with examples of what does however. They offer pleasantries and treaties in the guise of peace while sizing each other up for exploitation. Eventually one will win and the losers population becomes absorbed into the superior civilization. There has been exactly 0 cases of an entire people being exterminated, let alone all life. You are an idiot.

>>132952882

>Stanford torus
>fill the surface with low-rise buildings and canal to nowhere
>don't concentrate living space along walls to maximize arable land

Shit-tier space colonization.

>>132952882
>Is space colonization possible?

Possible but EXTREMELY difficult. Things like a space elevator or an orbital ring would make it easy but they're economically impossible to build.

It's a little shocking how proponents of both solutions don't understand the physics involved.

>>132952882
It will only happen once we end statism. The state is sand in the gears of the economy, and we need an incredibly massive economy before we can start colonizing. We also probably need a population of 50+ billion before it will become cheap enough.

>>132991128
That's a retarded argument. you're retarded. Manned space exploration advanced exponentially more rapidly during a time of competition between two (white) states than it did during the following 40 years when statism was being steadily corroded.

You're either dumb as shit, brainwashed, or disingenuous because the facts contradict the retard shit you're saying.

>>132982885
>The orbital ring is amazing due to it's low cost

??? Low cost?

>>132991999
When people start talking about building an orbital ring that's a giant red flag that they simply don't understand the topic.

Ok so you d0 10,000, or 100,000 rocket launches or whatever and build an orbital ring. Wonderful.

BUT it's still moving at orbital velocity. You can't attach elevators to it until you decelerate the whole thing down to geostationary speed.

Good fucking luck slowing an object weighing several billion tons down from 12,000(?) mph to geaostationary

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Bump.

>>132959927
>and it only takes a few hundred to basically wipe out every last trace of life on earth within a week
Nonsense. You couldn't wipe out every last trace of life in my country, let alone the planet with only a few hundred nukes. You wouldn't even manage to kill all life in my state with only a few hundred.

>>132952882
only a matter of time

>>132952882

We can't even manage planetearth correctly, so let's go out into space and fuck up more shit.

The aliens need to nuke this planet already. Humans are so fucking irresponsible.

>>132952882
No.

>>132952882
yes.

>>132993177
you're right that we don't have enough nukes to wipe out human life on earth but a few hundred nukes are probably enough to wipe out any single australian state.

The russians could probably wipe out 50% of australias population with a single tu-160 cruise missile carrier.

>>132981018
This planet will eventually die regardless, stupid cunt

>>132960940
>human race

>>132952882

No. It would be a bigger waste than Solyndra and all other scientific boondoggles.

It's not feasible in any realistic way and the only slight attempts we could make in that direction cost way more than they'd be worth.

May as well throw money into the ocean or something. Space colonization is just as unrealistic as time travel.

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>>132952882
Gonna say no .. till we get rid of niggas and (((them)))

No, thanks to Islam and the world's hatred of the white devil, this will not be possible before humanity sinks back into the dark ages. We may be able to get a shit V1 AI up before that time but it will probably commit suicide shortly after launch

>>132960717
LOLOLOLOL..

>>132960717
Why is woman in space relevant now?

>>132952882
Nope, too much radiation in space, Humanity is too primitive and it's too expensive.

>>132994333
>>132994000
Digits confirmed (((they))) are an problem.

>>132993903
> Space colonization is just as unrealistic as time travel.

That's another retard argument since one is definitely possible while he other is generally considered impossible with our current science.

If the right people genuinely believed that a meteor was going to kill them in 10 years or so, space colonization would magically appear within a few years. It just won't be done with orbital rings or space elevators.

>>132992576
Wouldn't it just collapse under its own weight or crash into the earth after a tiny amount of perturbation in its orbit regardless?

>>132993667
maybe, but we would need to have a few stern words with nz/png/indonesia for letting them launch the 160 at us

>>132994456
we will learn to shiled from radiation in your lifetime and most of the people in this thread.

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>>132952882
It is impossible for humans. For machines or cyborgs maybe though such achievement would be pointless for humanity. Like human achievements are pointless and even dangerous for gorillas.

>>132995014
>Wouldn't it just collapse under its own weight or crash into the earth after a tiny amount of perturbation in its orbit regardless?

I can't give an informed opinion either way. You would think that someone somewhere has done the math and confirmed that the ring could support itself and that's why it is considered a viable technology.

But when you consider that nobody brings up the subject of decelerating the ring once it's completed the whole theory becomes suspect.

The alternative is building the ring in geostationary orbit which increases the altitude from around 200 miles to 22,000 miles and if you'd building geostationary there's no need for a ring at all.

So yeah I don't understand the orbital ring proponents at all. It doesn't make any sense. It sounds good on paper but it's just not economically possible and maybe not even physically possible.

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>>132952945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNekVzuZR4

>>132996832
fucking anglos and your stupid sense of humor. If i ever see someone make a joke about Uranus in real life i would kill that person on the spot.

>>132952882
History of the flat earth Eric Dubay on YouTube

>in b4 psyop shill

>>132952882
Looks like an awful place to live.
Cameras covering every square foot.

>>132968023
The sun is still the sun, it's just smaller and localized under the dome

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>>132982885
Making this thing reliable would be impossible. 40000 km maglev track that can be used fro years without single accident? Any accident leads tot total destruction and falling of hundreds thousands tons of materials onto Earth? Requires clearing all orbits below ring from all satellites?

>>132968497
Go do some research and see if you can debunk it

>>132953011
>It is but humanity doesn't deserve it.
>deserve
Nigga, if we make it, then we deserve it. Who the fuck decides what we deserve to do, you? Who deserves it more than us? Ants? Dolphins?

Earth is flat.

Why havent we gone back to the moon since 1972? Because when we try to go to space we hit the firmanent aka the van allen radiation belt.

>>132998740
it's just one of those misanthropic cuckolds that screech that because we pollute at all, we should die out for hurting mother earth

luckily they're also the types to refuse to breed, so they'll die off like they should

>>132998335
a lone accident would not destroy the entirety of the ring, it'd be bad, but not that excessive

>>132999277
>a lone accident would not destroy the entirety of the ring
What do you think would happen when weight ring at 18 km/s touches exterior rail?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyoaOOAtDI0
And fro 40000 km/s ring there would be no emergency stop like trains con do.

>>132960717
that doggo looks comfy

>>132961807
>>132961969

who said anything about using a NTR in the atmosphere? Musk has got the to-orbit problem basically solved. Fast trips within the solar system are what NTR would allow.

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>>132958580

OP's pic appears to have gravity due to a rotating centrifuge thingy