SHOULD DUELLING BE LEGAL?

>>132932382
People don't listen to logic. It's racist.

>>132932382
>yfw now every murder can be explained by "WE WUZ DUELLING N SHIET"

>>132932382
I think we need a masculine way of dealing with conflict, only having a feminine way (slander) results in men becoming more feminine. Duelling is shite but bareknuckle fighting should be legalized without intervention of the state. Loudmouthed cucks like aids skrillex should know their place.

Duelling was legal in National Socialist Germany.

>>132932627
Duels would have to be consentual and there would need to be an officer of the law present to witness that the rules were obeyed.

>>132932382
>if two grown consenting adult men want to do that together i dont see what the big deal is. it doesnt affect you or anyone else, so why are you such a nazi?

>>132932725
would also force people to use arguments instead of slander as they would get their shit fucked up for running their mouth.

settle it in quake duels

>>132932382

Yes

Though, it needs formal rules and whatnot

>>132932382
Either bareknuckle street fights or give the guys broadswords and let them duke it out. Duels are for pussies and end to quickly.

>>132932382
Yes,

But they can't use socialized healthcare to pay for any injuries that result. It wouldn't be right to get gutshot in a duel, then make the taxpayer pay for all your ridiculous medical bills and colostomy bags for the rest of your life.

>>132932382
>yes, let's kill each other because words are offensive
Could you be more of a snowflake?
It's called the 1st you communist faggot!

>>132932909
i wonder if this a long forgotten way of controlling the liberal population.

blades only, guns are unfair, especially 2017 guns.

>>132932382
It works in Chicago

>>132932382
There should be times where murder is just a misdemeanor like firing a gun in public.

For example I saw on First 48 some guy had his brother murdered for no reason, so he goes and kills the killer and gets caught, cops charge him with first degree murder even though the guy he killed was gonna be legally charged with the murder of his brother anyways.

>>132933310
Duelling Insurance

>>132933234
ok retard

>>132932382
>Nigs kill you
>Fake evidence and witnesses of your consent

>>132933427
>charged
>convicted
>thing called "evidence" somewhere in between
You probably consider your post an argument.
It's not.

>>132933325
Definitely, not just the liberal population, but the female population. Not that I endorse wife beating, but in societies where it is accepted, liberal ideas are heavily suppressed. Men for too long have had their innate nature suppressed, resulting in the natural feminization of society. People won't use slander if they know they will get their teeth kicked in, it enforces respect. Libertarians don't understand this though.

>>132933427
There are lots of strange cases where people get murder charges for killing badguys.

A pharmacist was the victim of an armed robbery a few years ago. He used a gun to defend himself and shot the robber. But then he walked up and excecuted the robber with a headshot at close range after he was already down. They charged the defender with murder and he was convicted.

If the robber would have died of his wounds in the initial gunfight it would have been self defense. But walking up and shooting him in the head made it murder because it was premeditated.

Interesting case.

>>132933427
In viking scandinavia, it was legal to kill a person who publicly insulted you.

>>132933649
>Law enforcement officer present to witness scene
>video recorded evidence of the event

Yeah that's not happening

>>132933951
What is an insult and who defines it?
If I see you doing some dumb shit and call you dumb is it an insult or an observation?

>>132933745
Yea thats stupid af. Some situations your life should just be forfeit if you know what I mean. Like this one time someone chased me with a knife trying to kill me but I got to my machete and chased him but I stopped because it would be murder. Realistically if someone tries to take your life you should be allowed to do whatever to end them.

>>132933745
How do you know the robber isn't just playing possum and will shoot you as soon as your back is turned?

How do you know he won't get the rest of the gang and shoot up your family?

As far as I'm concerned, the pharmacist protected himself, his family and the entire neighborhood.

>>132934119
The you'd watch your mouth and not call anyone dumb. You might be able to outsmart a viking, but you can't outsmart bullet.

>>132934127
>Like this one time someone chased me with a knife trying to kill me but I got to my machete and chased him but I stopped because it would be murder.
Hello my Boer friend

>>132934250
Ok snowflake.
Btw you have to be at least 18 to post here. And you'll soon have to get a job cause your mommy ain't gonna live forever.

>>132934363
>Boer friend
I prefer syrupnigger, friend

>>132934119
If an argument is being made, the person can not be challenged to a duel/fight. If the person is labelling someone as a non objective term then the accuser can be challenged to a duel. There you go.

>>132934064
>doctored videos
>corrupt officials
>high profile asassinations

You just had a president with a fake birth certificate.

>>132934597
You are leaving a lot of room for interpretation here - argument, objective - who says what these things are? Do I decide that what I say is an argument? Does the offended? The state? How?

>>132932627
>typical crypto-commie can't into verbal and written consensual agreements. Truly barbaric.

>>132934653
>doctored videos

Not an argument at all. Apply the same techniques used to investigate crimes to duels. If you are saying that is inadequate then you are also saying crimes cannot be properly solved and therefore we cannot correctly punish criminals.

>>132934653
Russian knows where feel-good laws lead to.

>>132932382
No, duels exist simply because someone wants a sporting excuse to get terminal revenge. It's stupid and wasteful, nothing more than a veneer of civility on nigger tier behaviour.

>>132932825
seems overly complicated, there would be media outrage or investment in the event. can you imagine the spectacle and ratings? the msm would flourish and encourage from it

>>132933721
>>132933325
or the right/conservative side
its a double edged sword

>>132934543
I have no idea why that post triggered you, but I find your response cute.

The premise of the law is that you can't just slander someone with impunity. If you want to talk shit, you'd better be able to back it up.

>>132934991
It's significantly harder to forge a corpse than it is to forge a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApG1XdI-Dd4

>>132934873
Well yh like I said there is alot of room for debate. I would say anything which is a logical fallacy, outlined at the top of /pol/ for example, which a person perceives as slandering their own name personally is grounds for a duel, should the offended desire it. The key here is that I'm not going off offense alone, but the fact they also neglected sound arguments and took to slandering a person in order to advance their position. Allowing people to duel for this reason would help to strengthen society greatly.

>>132934991
And here I see another problem: who pays for all this? I don't want my taxes to be spent on the resources and manpower needed to investigate the result of some snowflakes not being able to handle words.

>>132935076
you can still turn down the offer stupid

>>132935251
Like I said, apply the same techniques that are use for crime investigation to duels. Unless you are saying that it isn't effective enough, which means that modern law enforcement according to you is ineffective enough, raising the question should criminals be punished if the law can't effectively investigate crimes.

>>132935235
Again: let's assume I see you doing some stupid shit, kinda like what you're doing here. Then let's assume the stupid shit you're doing is so obvious that I see the need to call you a dumbass.
Oops, did I just offend you? Are you going to challenge me now?
Be advised snowflake, real world duels are not going to be fought with keyboards.

>>132935438
Yeah, but then you'd be a coward and your own mother would disown you.

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>>132932382
its legal in canada to due someone, turdeau legalized it

>>132935681
Jesus, who let reddit in?

>>132935368
Fair point, not sure. Couldn't the people involved in the duel pay for it? With the person who loses paying the bulk?

> 1v1 final destination no items

>>132935561
At least it became public knowledge somehow that Kennedy had multiple shot wounds and people suspect something/

If it was a "duel" there wouldn't even be any fuss about it.

>>132935744
Someone else legalized blowing dogs in Canada as well. Truly a strange place.

>>132932382
Probably already been mentioned but if not just want to weigh in that dueling has pretty much always been illegal in the West, the difference is that for a long time people did it regardless

Culture is what changed, not the law

>>132935438
And it's still stupid and wasteful. The very reason duelling was outlawed in France was because it decimated the nobility.

>>132932382
duelling? Learn to fence motherfuckers. You're training to kill people in a duel with a sword. It's a fucking hoot.

>>132935368
Also it isn't just to do with handling words. Words have a great effect on peoples public perception of you, a damaged reputation can ruin ones life. Duels would make people think twice before running their mouths. Simply suing someone means nothing if the person being sued has buckets of cash. Getting pounded into the dirt publically however for the world to see would be much more severe to ones reputation.

>>132935681
This wouldn't be an offence worth challenging one of, as this is an anonymous imageboard. No ones public reputation has been harmed.

>>132935899
Well, that could work.
But not guns or swords. Knives only. This way the chance of even the winner getting really fucked up is higher and maybe, just maybe next time someone says words to him he'll think real hard if mean words are offensive enough to contemplate becoming disabled even if he wins.

>>132932382
Dueling takes honor. Any of that left these days?

>>132936391
My beef with this is that a lot of people are seriously lacking is self control and would have no problem engaging in duels irl.
And instead of creating a more respectful society it will lead to a more fearful, deceitful and wicked one. People would stop talking in public and engage much more in petty scheming. And that's not good for a society that wants to be functional, that's how people act in communist societies.
We need words out in the open,even the bad and offensive ones. Cause sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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In the process of updating Canada's bylaws, Justin Trudeau and Co. legalized dueling and witchcraft.

OH CANADA.....

>>132932382
>yfw the leftists want this because they know their odds in a gun fight are better than their odds in debate

Fuck off antifa legbutt

>>132933345
>guns are unfair, especially 2017 guns.
this. most actual dueling pistols were probably intentionally made to be less accurate; you can't sell them if all your fucking customers keep killing each other.

>>132932382
in a single word: YES

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In Washington state the have a Mutual Combat law or whatever they call it. Even if the cops show up they will let them at it until it looks like someone is getting wrecked then break it up.

>>132932725

As long as the fight isn't on pavement then this is fine.

We don't need to be looking after a bunch of vegetables after they get knocked out and hit their head on the pavement.

>>132933234
Nope.
their should be a choice though.
Duel (1): until first blood
Duel (2): until grievous injury and/or capitulation
Duel (3): until death

by mutual choice the duelers should be allowed to choose between fists, bladed weapons, or firearms
each combatant should be armed with identical weapons

>>132932725
>I think we need a masculine way of dealing with conflict, only having a feminine way (slander) results in men becoming more feminine.
Yes. Masculine/physical rituals/methods of resolving conflict are a good thing and liberal society completely removing those was a huge mistake. Guns, however, are bad (what if someone misses and the bullet hits someone else, say), but bare-handed/no-weapons physical fighting is good.

>>132932382
yes but these things should be handled in a proper fashion. not just you slapping some nigger and say " i demand satisfaction"

the person who issues the challenge selects the time and place . the person who accepts (they can refuse) selects the weapons. both will use the same weapons. not just same type (like the selected weapons are dueling pistols and you show up demanding to use your 357 to fucking bad. if you were challenged you should have specified .357). there are no substitutions for weapons are allowed and 2 court appointed witnesses (or law enforcement) will view the duel. others may view the duel but at minimum 2 witnesses that are impartial 3rd parties

>>132938228
There is no such law.

>>132938415
No
weapons must be allowed to be a choice
otherwise the fight just comes down to who is bigger/stronger

if your so fuckin tough, or if your injury is so grievous to want to beat a man publicly over it, then why are you so chickenshit of pistol duelling to the death

pistols make the fight fair, regardless of who the combatants are

>>132938560
100% agree

I bet when men used to meet somewhere, whether it was the open steppe or the forest, and they wore the skins of the animals they had bested, and carried thier weapons openly, people in general were more hesitant to run thier mouths.

>>132938953
OK. But weapons need to be identical and duels need to be done in a way that stray bullets won't kill anyone.

>>132938403

remove option 2

grievous injuries are a drain on society