Why do Women have their own leagues for things like Chess?

>>132912777
Because women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker at the highest echelons.

They can't compete with men in anything.

Men are superior

>>132912777
It's funny because they claim to want equality in all these things then the mongo tranny beat the fuck out of some bitch in an MMA fight
Pure outrage, I went through 4 pairs of pants pissing myself

>>132912777
Because women are stupid so we let them play with each other to stop whining.

>>132912777

It's the same reason why liberals have the special Olympics. They can't compete with real men.

>>132912777
Because they can't compete with men at those levels

Women r dum

There are studies that show that female chess players beat male chess players when they don't know they are playing against a man

So basically it boils down to prejudice, stereotypes and inherent advantages of the male-dominated system.

>>132915318
There are studies that show you're a massive faggot. I hear sources and experts also agree on this.

>>132914500

This.

Even my fiancé has this belief.

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>>132916865
I can confirm an anonymous source close with your thinking can confirm that other anonymous sources and experts also agree.

>>132916865
women lost 2x more games when they knew it was a man(of same skill level) they were playing against and won when they thought it was a woman (of same skill level)

>>132917275

So they're so emotion and weak-minded that they can't even keep from psyching themselves out during a game of chess

Men win again

>>132912777
Final redpill.
Females are not humans.

>>132916865
>>132917527
>SOURCE?????

http://mdmcalister.pbworks.com/f/Checkmate%20-%20The%20role%20of%20gender%20stereotypes%20in%20the%20ultimate%20intellectual%20sport.pdf

Read the Result section, Performance

>>132917275

So what you're saying is women are stupid and let their fee fees (omg scay man im gonna lose) interfere with any ability they have at the game? Got it.

>>132912777
>Women are subhuman.

>>132912777
Because size of pools are completely different
I.e. starcraft in murrica vs starcraft in korea

>>132917848
Not necessarily stupid, it's a kind of self-flufilling prophecy :)

Leagues are segregated because men's side has actual competition which drives people to get better. Women's leagues are smaller and super casual which leads to one or two teams/individuals to be drastically better than everyone else so then they lack the means to practice against actual competition.

While a lot of people want to shit on women here, the truth to why the "best" women are still shit compared to men isn't only because men have physical and mental advantages over them. This alone is not enough to explain why there's such a massive gap between a world class women's team at any given sport getting mopped by high schoolers. The "best" women literally have no competition in their own league, and with nothing to strive for, they stagnate. A decade of mixed leagues with women's and men's teams would be humiliating for the former, but it would give a massive jumpstart to boost actual competition in gender-segregated leagues instead of lazy big fish acting like they're hot shit in a little pond. This is all assuming that women's teams don't flat out die altogether from being rolled by men for ten years, of course.

>The April 2017 FIDE rating list includes 1552 grandmasters, of which 1517 are male and 35 are female.

Because otherwise you'd never see a single woman at the highest level of play. It's not a bad thing though. We want to see women in competition, so we make womens events.

>>132917691
they still lost more than average.

what that proves is that not only theyre stupid but also emotional unstable

>>132919047
>we need (((science))) to gather the evidence and still don´t get the point

sometimes it just lays in front of you

>>132919559
>this fucking cherry picking
there are tons of data that contradict this too, just because you have a position backed by science doesn't mean its the only position backed by science, welcome to the scientific process, where intelligence is not so easily quantifiable.

>>132917691
>>132915318
neat.jpg

saved, thanks based guy who probably wants to lynch me,.

>>132919559
This should be pretty obvious to anyone who has a job that requires abstract thinking. You have an excuse if you're unemployed or do mindless bullshit for a living. Men are just better at focusing in on and understanding narrow, specialized problems. Granted, women may tend to be more well rounded in other areas, so outside of IQ women really aren't going to be statistically worse for most jobs.

>>132920696
>there are tons of data that contradict this too
wow!
look at the proofs and data that you're posting
you sure showed me

>>132918615
underrated post

>>132921182
>I'm so well read on this topic heres my study by a well known skeptic of equality
>whats that? why don't I know any of the evidence that contradicts this?

fucking figures a leaf would read one study and believe it without doing any research. It's almost like you're too stupid to google, the arguements and counter arguements are easily available.

Lynn isn't even 100% wrong, his methodology just blows and nobody can reliably repeat his results.

there are other studies that show as much, if you actually gave a fuck about the topic like I do instead of just searching for something that vindicated what you already believe you'd know all this already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence

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>>132921586
you're sure implying a lot about who i am and what i know - almost as if you're building a man made of straw

>>132922057
>provide cherry picked and unballanced opinion
>get called out on it
>s-strawman
time to get the rake.

>>132920696
excellent point. would you make the same statement in regards to climate change? or would you just dismiss the offender as one more filthy heretic in need of redemption by crucifixion and fire ?

>>132922162
I would if any of the media and critics of climate change where aware of how severely buttfrustrated you republicucks have made their lives by destroying public perception of the scientific issues and muddling the waters by pretending its a conspiracy. Right winger obsfucation and fraud infuriates skeptics of climate change skeptics because it makes their job harder and spread disinformation.

If you want to know what actual skeptical arguements against ACC look like and how to actually sift through all the rightwing media bullshit then watch this series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP&index=1

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>>132912866
fpbp, also praise him.

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>>132922154
cherry picked? unbalanced?
sounds like someone doesn't like the facts as they're laid out on the table.
you're making me out to be someone i'm not and misrepresenting the argument i've laid forth - sounds like a strawman to me.
women have smaller brains with 17% less neocortical neurons and 40% less neocortical synapses as shown in my post >>132917220, which is referenced with studies at the bottom of the image
but that's probably what you'd call an "unbalanced" and "cherry-picked" opinion, eh?

speaking of facts and studies, i don't see you providing anything besides a wikipedia link.
since i'm such a nice guy i'll provide you a list of more ways that men and women are biologically different, besides men being smarter and more capable at anything they choose to be

>>132917671
But neither are liberals. What does it all mean?

>>132912777
"Equality"

>>132923004
>durr
so you're so stupid you think either that your own study doesn't count, because it's on the same wikipedia link you are desparaging, or I'm not strawmanning you, because you are not producing any other pieces of evidence, only a fucking meme image that has nothing to do with the topic or the thread; female intelligence. Instead of moving the goalpost and ignoring data you don't like, you have to explain how its wrong. thats how sicence fucking works leafnigger. it's called peer review.

>>132923750
>When standardized IQ tests were first developed in the early 20th century, girls typically scored higher than boys until age 14, at which time the curve for girls dropped below that for boys.[17][20] As testing methodology was revised, efforts were made to equalize gender performance.[20][21][22]

>The average IQ scores between men and women have little variation.[19][23][24][25][26] However, the variability of male scores is greater than that of females, resulting in more males than females in the top and bottom of the IQ distribution.[8]

Nearly no women in the top
2-3 times more males in 130IQ
5 times more males in 145+ IQ

could somehow explain it, couldn´t it?

>>132912866
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>>132924027
>what is averaging
are you illiterate as well as stupid?

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>>132923750
i'm not disparaging wikipedia, i'm disparaging you for providing a link and nothing else.
i see a lot of crying and stamping your feet in your posts but i don't see you providing any data to the contrary of what i've posted.
women are indeed dumber and less capable on average than men.

>>132924192
You are an overemotional asshole immune to logic and rationality.

I´m not even sure if you are a women, because you didn´t tell me that i won´t get laid so far, but i guess you get along well with them.

Cunt.

>>132917691
>matched for ability
So this does not account for the massive difference in ability between top male and female players. ONE woman in history has been able to compete at the highest level: Judit Polgar. No other woman has even come close.

Today's top rated woman is Hou Yifan and she isn't even a 2700. It's pathetic.

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>>132918615
Incorrect sir. Paul Morphy (1839-1884) had no competition at all and he became in many grandmasters (Ben Finegold for example) opinions the greatest chess player of all time.
Morphy played roofus and doofus almost every game. Even when he played the greatest players of his time he won with ease.
>Against Henry Edward Bird in a match, Morphy scored 10.5/12
>Morphy scored 14/17 in matches against Adolf Anderson
>Against Louis Paulsen in tournament and match play, his record was 9.5/12
Female chess players are bad because they aren't like Morphy, they are women :/

Sauce: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/paul-morphys-ratinggt2638

>>132917032
clever girl

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>>132912777

>Global Rule 3 says about anthropomorphic not allowed outside of /b/
>Pepe is a anthropomorphic character and its widely allowed on all the rest of the boards

Fucking mods with his autism disorder.

Because of Title IX

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>>132922650
congratulations. you're not brainwashed quite to the point of religious zealotry unlike most of your ilk to whom obfuscation and hysteria are accepted as the reasonable center. see if you can settle them down a bit and we might actually be able to compromise on some issues

>>132918615
Also something else to add, womens titles.
>To become a Womens Grand Master you have to maintain a 2300 ELO (Regular GM title is 2500 ELO)
Women can attain the regular GM title but the fact that the WGM title exists is problematic

>>132917691
If there's a sport that's purely skill based it is chess.

There is zero luck factor in chess. I mean how far can you go with the mental gymnastics.

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>>132919559
Its not that men are smarter its that men are more likely to be smarter. Men are also more likely to be dumber. Female IQ is more rounded to a middle while male IQ can be very high and very low

>>132922650

It Is conspiracy though.

South Australia is about to spend tens of millions of dollars of an Elon Musk battery to hook up to a wind farm.

This will solve the 'energy crisis' there.

Australia (south Australia in particular) has the largest uranium deposits in the world and some of the largest coal deposits in the world.

What (((energy crosis)))?

>>132912777
They suck.

>>132915318
>There are studies...
And I can't help but notice a lack of those studies being posted...

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>>132925058
>anthropomorphic
It's meant for furries, you mong.

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>>132922932
Found the plebbit faggot. GTFO

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>>132925479
>Men are also more likely to be dumber.
this is an important point i don't believe has been brought up yet
men are much more likely to be super-geniuses and much more likely to be super-retards, as compared to women

>>132918191
If that's the case it's a shortcoming of women and not men. Psychology is as important to chess as the strategy itself. Hell, Bobby Fischer defeated Boris Spassky why psychology alone. He crushed him so hard with just psychology the guy was driven mad during the game and commented that florescent lights were actually bugged equipment.

>>132914500
playing only against other women ensures that they will not be able to progress past a certain point. as with everything else you have to compete with better players than yourself to improve.

both judit polgar and hou yifan primarily play against men and are very good.

>>132925778
>Much more likely to be retards.
It's not even even split. It's favored towards geniuses.

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>>132917671
Women are property

>>132918615
The best women often compete in male tournaments though. Polgar did so almost exclusively and Yifan does so from time to time. They have more than enough competition.
>>132924937
It's very hard to compare masters from different era's. Morphy was something special and he was years ahead of his time, I'll give him that, but I think he'd get his ass handed to him by Carlsen or Anand using modern theory. Anyway, as great as he is, Morphy is an anomaly. Players usually do develop through tough competition. The best example is probably Kasparov who grew immensely as a player through his lengthy matches with Karpov.

An interesting thought I read recently is that Karpov might have grown in a similar way, had Fischer chosen to defend his title in 1975 (and then in 1978 and 1981), and maybe Karpov, not Kasparov, would have been considered the greatest chess player of modern times.

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>>132918615
There isn't a single guy who would be worried about playing against women. It's women who hold women back.

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>>132925587
So anthropomorphic characters that doesnt have fur are allowed?

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>>132925884
correct - i should have worded that post differently
i meant that relative to women, men are more likely to be at one end of the IQ spectrum or the other, while women generally cluster around the middle of the spectrum

>>132926299
>"Behold! A man!"
Diogenes pls...

>>132926331
No, I get what you mean. I totally agree on that point.

>>132925970
I think if Morphy had like a month to learn modern theory he could go toe to toe with Carlsen and easily Anand. Also I think Karpov V. Fischer would make both stronger because Fischer was like Morphy, if his mind hadn't destroyed him he would have become a god among men (like Kasparov but better).
(I think Karpov was a fantastic player but Fischer was a beast)

>>132919047
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>>132918615
You try to use the excuse that they have no competition? How does that explain Olympic teams being embarrassed by high school boys?
Lack of competition would play a small role in it. As soon as puberty kicks in, it's no longer a level playing field.

>>132912777
The female founder's answer is that there aren't enough female chess players to stand a statistical chance to beat the men who are the very best. The women's league is to encourage women go play chess in a positive environment so that someday women will be top 20 competition level

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>>132926975
as an aside to your post:
I posit that if a woman's "social truth" is in opposition to reality the social truth will win out 99 times out of 100, which is part of the reason why women are less intelligent than men.

>scored in her own team's basket
much worse than that.
White is trying to score on the hoop on the left side of the court and Blue should be trying to score on the hoop on the right side of the court. White shoots, Blue gets the ball and makes an error in thought - and this is the important part - EVERY SINGLE OTHER GIRL WHO HAS BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME THEIR ENTIRE LIVES goes along with this error in thought without even a second guess. After Blue shoots at the wrong team's hoop, White continues this horrible error in judgement that Blue started by trying to score on their own side.

This is one example that shows how important the social truth is to women. They will believe in what the majority believes rather than reality.

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Why hasn't anyone brought up womens titles? WGM, WIM, WWC, etc.
Womens Grand Master for example requires a average of 2300 ELO while regular grand master requires 2500 ELO. This is a HUGE difference in caliber for similar titles.

>>132927102
>positive environment
And that's the problem. That's not a competitive environment. They should be integrated into the male leagues and forced to play at that level. If they win they win; if they lose they lose; if they quit they quit. The entire idea women should be treated specially so they can "compete" is really anti-competition and does them no favors.

>>132912777

Same reason we have "little league" and "peewee football" ... children can't play on equal footing with adults.

>>132927304
Because no one cares about women's league. Everyone expects it to play at a much lower level. Those that stay in that league have decided they don't want to try to improve beyond it.

If there were two men's leagues with the same conditions people would definitely look down on the men's league as weaker and not as "held back."

>>132927257
That fucking webm though kek

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>>132927561
female athletics really are something special, aren't they?
people openly admit that men and women need to have different sports leagues, but seem reticent to admit that women are less capable mentally as well as physically

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>>132927257
What the fuck just happened here?

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>>132927304
Hou Yifan the womens world champion is rated 2666 ELO. Now I love Hou, and shes a great player but even the WWC isn't as good as most super GM's. Pic related is her <3

>>132912777
there would be 1/1000 top chess players that are female

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>>132928199
that's the female brain in action my smelly friend

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>>132928277
i would MATE her if know what i mean
*wink, wink*
*nudge, nudge*

>>132926771
You may be right. It's pretty sick how Morphy refused to play anyone without odds for the last year or so of his active career and still kicked butt left and right. Modern chess is insanely accurate though, compared to the romantic style of that time. A comparable level of accuracy didn't really exist until Capablanca. It takes a lot more to be world champion now than it did back then. Of course the resources are better but it's unclear imo how that would balance out.

Fisher is similar. There's no doubt that in his prime he was dominating his competition to an extend rarely ever seen before (maybe since Morphy), but I cannot help but think a good part of his reputation today comes from the fact that he quit while he was ahead. We never got to see him lose. It is not at all clear to me that he would have been able to dominate chess for decades to come, like kasparov did for 22 years. In fact I think Karpov might not have beaten him in 1975, but he might very well have in 1978.

The sad thing is we'll never know.

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>>132929041
the question i have is that if given sufficient prep-time, could Morphy beat a modern chess computer?

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>>132923004
Asians have more neocortical neurons than whites but white men still dominate chess. Why is that Mr. Smartypants?

>>132918615
This is so wrong it's ridiculous.

> women and men do play in the same matches.

> female events and titles are simply lowered bars to reward them for sub par play.

> women are in no way banned or restricted from normal events except that they're simply worse.

I am deep in the chess world and "competition" isn't the problem.

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>>132929329
the first thing that jumped into my mind was that Asians enjoy playing Go instead of Chess
also, jews are above both asians and whites when it comes to intelligence but i don't know any jew games that i can reference that they would excel in
as an aside, the top female player is asian, as referenced by >>132928277

and i'll thank you to call me Mister Smartypants - i don't like it shortend to Mr.

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>>132912777
You know the answer to that anon.

>>132929892
So why not apply that same logic with women? The player base for women is about 5% that of the men's player base. Going by that the scores women achieve seem fine. If the male player base was only 5% of what it is we wouldn't see many of the greats we've seen in the past.

>>132929329
Because Asians aren't creative and don't know how to think outside the box. They try to calculate and iterate like a computer, except the human brain isn't particularly suited to that. It's the same reason Asians aren't able to invent and innovate in general.

>>132929329

whites still dominate top tiers of IT, engineering, architecture, math, physics

the smart asian meme is a lie comparing genpop whites vs top asian uni students.

go to china if you want to see the 'genius' asian s spitting and crashing their cars with constant stunned goldfish face

>>132930251

innovation IS intelligence though, solving problems in newer, better ways isn't creative. it's smart.

education will teach you how someone else solved a problem. intelligence will teach you how to solve it better your own way.

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>>132930160
if women could compete with men there wouldn't need to be a seperate league for them.
since they can't compete with men, they need to be segregated in a seperate league with less demanding requirements for GM, IGM, ect

it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that female's have a smaller player base than men do, which is what i think you were implying

>>132929269
Modern chess computers have pretty much solved the fame. They beat super GMs at odds so I'm gonna say no. Check out this report of a match between Nakamura and Komodo in a series of odds games.

https://www.chess.com/news/view/komodo-beats-nakamura-in-final-battle-1331

>>132930251
tldr asians have no soul

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>>132930712
thanks my man, i'll check that out

>>132929329
>who is Wesley So
>who is Hikaru Nakamura
>who is Vishy Anand
>who are Wei Yi and Jeffrey Xiong

>>132930621
How does it have nothing to do with the number of women playing?your excuse for asians was "because most play Go instead of chess". Apply that to women, most women whore themselves out instead of playing chess.
If the female chess player base was 20x that of the man's you don't think we would see more women able to compete with some of the top level men?

>>132915318
>female chess players beat male chess players when they don't know they are playing against a man
That's a lie.

>>132931201
All nobodies who have never been the best.

>>132912866
fpbp

there is a reason they are shit at anything even remotely competitive. They are genetically beta

>>132915318
that's false but there is some truth to it.

Those studies proved that they obtained better results if they didn't know they were playing against men, but they would still lose the majority of times.

>There's no such thing as a female brain, men and women's minds are the same. Don't be sexist.
>John has a woman's brain, he's just trapped in a mans body, he's not mentally ill he's trans. Don't be transphobic.

>>132930610
Leave it to a leaf to say some retarded shit like this.

>>132931201
Nakamura is half white and was raised in America, making him culturally European

Anand is Indian...?

So is Filipino

Yi is a shit player who can't compete at the top

>>132918077
there still should be outliers, as in SC

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>>132931231
if i'm understanding you correctly, i think you're mixing up race and gender in the points you're raising.
asian men vs white men is a fair comparison
asian women vs white women is a fair comparison

>If the female chess player base was 20x that of the man's you don't think we would see more women able to compete with some of the top level men?
no. women are intellectually inferior to men - at the upper echelon, men will dominate 100 times out of 100 regardless of the size of the female player base.
or to put it in a different way, if every women in America took up Chess from childhood and played it all the way into adulthood and competed in a league where everyone plays everyone, not a single female could beat the top 10 (perhaps even the top 100) of the male players because men have evolved the need to be smarter than women, and it shows - not just in chess but in all aspects of life.

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>>132918615
there is something like 30 times as many men with 170+ IQ as women with 170+ IQ. this is very well documented.

stop acting like a liberal apologist

>>132930412
>top tiers of IT, engineering, architecture, math, physics

Proof? Japan is the leader in technology, and all American tech companies are filled with Changs and Pajeets.

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>>132932749
>all American tech companies are filled with Changs and Pajeets
to be fair that could be due to diversity hiring practices more than any other factor

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>>132912883
/thread

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>>132927257
Holy fuck my sides are beyond repair

>>132932366
Whites are intellectually inferior to asians at the upper echelons but whites still dominate chess.

>>132915318
Nothing actually valid though

>>132912777
Women are have lower visiospacial iq but higher verbal. Testosterone makes men OP

>>132931201
vishy is definitely curry

>women doesn't have inferior intelligence
>women should have their own leagues in chess

pick one

>>132932907
Diversity hiring practices actually work AGAINST asians if anything else, as they negatively affect them in academia. I would imagine indians being the same, but stats dont differentiate between asians and indians.

>>132933938
I think this is the best answer. As an aside, Asians have higher spatial intelligence but lower verbal. That's why asians seem very aspy/"soulless" at times.

Jewish IQ profile are the opposite of asians: higher verbal, lower spatial (but they are still really high on both).

Whites are evenly split

>>132912866
Bs, top student in my psychology class is a girl. Kys

How many black grand masters are there? And specifically how many black female grand masters?

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>>132933429
the data that you posted earlier was for the average member of each race, yes? it wasn't for the supra-genius type we're talking about that dominates intellectual games.
when we're talking the top-tiers of male genius i would posit that it comes down to focus and specialization of that man's genius. i would then posit that whites tend to focus on Chess since its a western game. i assume that that the top tier of Go is dominated by asian men, not white men, since Go is an eastern game

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>>132934628
i think we all know the answer to that question my man

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Apparently black female grand masters are not a thing.
One girl was close to becoming one and got a movie made about her, pic related.
(Actually she may be the first black female GM now, and only the 4th black GM)

>>132934904
Good. Now use that exact same logic with women. Do you think the top tier intellectual women are playing chess? Or perhaps they are doing something else with their intellect? Really makes you think.

Women suck ass at chess

Poor spatial and logical reasoning, it really cripples them

>>132918615
>Women have different leagues
>Because they're worse in sports
>Because there's no competition
>Because women have different leagues
>Women have different leagues because women have different leagues
Are you actually retarded?

>>132912777
Why do Men have their own message boards for things like conspiracy theories?

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>>132935365
you're still implying that women and men are intellectual equals, which they're not and they never will be.

>Do you think the top tier intellectual women are playing chess? Or perhaps they are doing something else with their intellect?
the more intelligent women play to their own intellectual strengths by becoming mothers and wives, not trying to compete with men.
if i understand you correctly, you're implying that the reason why women aren't beating male IGM's is because they're choosing not to because they're applying themselves to another field
can you name any intellectual fields where women outshine men? because i can't think of a single one.

>>132936119
No I'm implying the exact opposite hence why I keep comparing intellectually superior asians to whites.
Yes intellectual women are going into other fields (such as raising a family and being a mother) just like intellectually superior asians are going into other fields (Go).
The female chess player base is miniscule, less than 5% of the male player base.
Surely you can agree that if the number of men and women in chess were equal we would see better female chess players right? (Better meaning better female chess players than we have now, not better than the best men)

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>>132936528
>Surely you can agree that if the number of men and women in chess were equal we would see better female chess players right? (Better meaning better female chess players than we have now, not better than the best men)
if your goal is better female Chess players then let them play against men

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>>132936528
>intellectually superior asians to whites.
Have you ever picked up a history book anon?

>>132936829
I don't believe asians are intellectually superior the other poster does. The other poster went on about how men have more cortical neurons than women so that's why women suck at chess. Asians have more cortical neuron connections than whites but still suck at chess.

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>>132934545
>(((psychology)))

>>132936824
I agree, but I also think the feminist argument of women need encouragement applies to chess. A hell of a lot more young boys are taught how to play than young girls.

>>132912866
Not only can they compete, but they are better are many things than men and provide many benefits.
Important things like creating life, creating a family, companionship, love, romance, etc.

The problem with you autists is that you look at women like they're men. They're not. They're different and good at different things. As soon as you accept that, you'll begin to enjoy women. Don't want to accept it? Go suck cocks.

>>132935999
Because you faggots bitch to much and keep shilling that the Earth is a globe

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>>132937132
>A hell of a lot more young boys are taught how to play than young girls.
this is because women have less interest in Chess than men.
equality of input does not mean equality of output and it never will.
your post-modernism is showing, eh

>>132937132
Why? Who does it benefit to have more girls playing chess than whatever it is they choose to do instead? What's wrong with letting people choose their own activities?

>>132937515
I never said they had equal interest. Do you think the young boys had any interest in chess before being introduced to it? Perhaps some, but I doubt the majority new it existed. If you don't think introducing more young girls to chess would create more good female chess players you're delusional.

>>132937775
I've never met a girl who doesn't know what chess is. I have two sisters and they were both taught how to play chess just as I was. Both showed little to no interest, and to this day scoff at me when I ask them for a game.

>>132937744
Most young boys didn't choose chess. An older relative probably introduced it to them. Most young girls are not introduced to chess. And yes I most certainly think many more young boys enjoy chess than young girls, but it doesn't change the fact that some young girls would like chess if it was introduced to them at a young age.

>>132937293

That's bait. A German Sheppard can do all those things better then a woman.

>>132937905
Thanks for that anecdotal evidence that means nothing. You can look up the number of men vs women that know the rules of chess.

>>132938024
Your mgtow fedora is showing.

There are women who are in the top 10 for both men and women. FAIL!

>>132912777
Because we deserve equality, why shouldn't we have our own chess, you have your chess but you don't want us to have ours ? typical basement dwelling neckbeard !

>>132938145
Maybe that's because men are more likely than women to want to learn the rules of chess. No one pushes boys into chess just as no one pushes girls away from chess.

>>132912777
Nice get

So you can imagine yourself having sex with all of them.

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>>132937775
>If you don't think introducing more young girls to chess would create more good female chess players you're delusional.
you implying that young girls aren't exposed to chess, which they obviously are - they know it exists but they don't care, because they're females and they have different priorities in life.
they don't enjoy it and don't care about it, regardless of how much "womyn positivity" is forcibly injected into the game by people who think like yourself.

instead of women trying to be equal to men (which they never have been nor ever will be, physically or mentally), modern women should celebrate the things they can do that men will never be able to do; as a male if i bled for a week straight i would die, i cannot grow a life inside me, ect

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>>132938317
No there aren't.

>>132934545

Wow a girl is top in your community college class in a pseudoscience field. Woman are so great guys

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>>132912777
Because they can't compete

those digits

>>132921586
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence
lel, get BTFO retard:
?When standardized IQ tests were first developed in the early 20th century, girls typically scored higher than boys until age 14, at which time the curve for girls dropped below that for boys.[17][20] As testing methodology was revised, efforts were made to equalize gender performance.

>In the nineteenth century, whether men and women had equal intelligence was seen by many as a prerequisite for the granting of suffrage.

>During the early twentieth century, the scientific consensus shifted to the view that gender plays no role in intelligence.[16] In his 1916 study of children's IQs, psychologist (((Lewis Terman))) concluded that "the intelligence of girls, at least up to 14 years, does not differ materially from that of boys".
Even the kike had to qualify that statement.

>>132938365
Yeah because telling women they're intellectually inferior and not cut out for chess doesn't push them away right?
Also again, you can look up the number of men vs women who know the rules of chess, you can also look up that the MAJORITY OF men were taught the rules by a relative, women were not.

>>132938389
If you think as many young girls are exposed to chess as young boys you're naive.

>>132939058
>Yeah because telling women they're intellectually inferior and not cut out for chess doesn't push them away right?
I've never heard of a parent telling their child that. Sounds like bullshit.

>Also again, you can look up the number of men vs women who know the rules of chess, you can also look up that the MAJORITY OF men were taught the rules by a relative, women were not.
It's irrelevant. Someone who doesn't want to learn chess won't learn it, regardless of sex.

>>132939180
Pretty much every school has a chess club

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>>132939180
you seem to believe that children have no biological disposition for certain activies, would that be a fair assessment?

>>132939180
This bitch sounds pissed

>>132939058
My mom taught me the rules of chess but she and my sister are terrible at playing it.

>>132927257
WOW.

sharia when?

>>132932907

>hire women over men
>women leave to have babies
>hmmm... we really lacking people with experience
>gotta import immigrants.

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>A new study in Infant and Child Development contributes to this area by testing the toy preferences of children aged 9 to 32 months during a free-play session at their day nursery. The results, though they come with caveats, appear to support the notion that boys and girls display gender-typed preferences before they are old enough to be aware of gender and even in the absence of their parents, who might otherwise influence them to play in a gender-stereotyped fashion.

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2016/06/03/infants-show-a-preference-for-toys-that-match-their-gender-before-they-know-what-gender-is/

Why do liberals hate science?

>>132939936
i forgot to add, if only it was impossible to import immigrants, then maybe all this SJW and equality shit would be over in an instant when you have 25%+ of the women leaving the workforce and never coming back.

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>>132939936
an interesting point...almost like this has been planned from the outset or something, eh

>>132938332
The "men's league" only exists because the women wanted their own league.

Learn to google faggot.

>>132937100
>>132938633
anons im ashamed you took that awful bait
please leave this board until you can spot obvious bait

>>132940141
don't attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity

>>132939489
No you fucking retard. Read my other posts.
>>132939374
>"Ive never heard of it, so it must be bullshit!"
>>132939600
Good on her, you should practice with them more if they enjoy it.
>>132939555
I guarantee "this bitch" beat you in chess

>>132939180
dat bleeding vagina

>>132912777

Because women dream about getting black dick and white men don't want to have to deal with nigger jizz getting on the chess pieces.

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>>132939936
Mass immigration is to offset the lack of white babies due to white women choosing careers over family.

>>132925882
Dumb normie do you even read all the posts.

>>132940084
Exactly! Why cant OP and some of the other MGTOW posters see this.

>>132938203
not an argument

>>132940260
sooo angry

>>132940260
>I'm saying things on the internet, so it must be true!

>>132940260
>Good on her, you should practice with them more if they enjoy it.
Nah, they would always get frustrated and quit even when I was in elementary school; they both stopped entirely over a decade ago. Women are just too dumb and emotional to be worthwhile competition. Which is fine, since that's not what women are for.

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>>132940260
>No you fucking retard.
i'll ignore your emotional ad hom attack because i'm trying to help you here.
you'll agree that boys are naturally more predisposed to certain activities than girls - like Chess, for example.
this natural interest boys have and natural disinterest girls have is the reason why girls don't like Chess and boys do - it has nothing to do with girls not being pushed hard enough to get into Chess.

>>132936829
Intellectually superior =/= economic or developmentally superior necessarily.

In terms of direct measures of intelligence (IQ tests, standardized tests etc.), proxy measures of intelligence (academia achievement, income, wealth etc.), Asians > whites. Even Asian countries nowadays are at least on par with most western ones (save for China).

If anything, white "historical superiority" is more the exception than the trend.

>>132940347

both of our points aren't mutually exclusive.

In my specific case I was referring to the doctor shortage in the UK because women wake up 1 day and decide that a family is more important than a career, creating a huge doctor shortage after having all that money thrown at them and having 50% gender quotas in place.

Western countries literally tear their men down to avoid being called sexist, just so they can later be replaced by foreign men from "sexist" societies because we NEED them.

I almost wish the UK had to endure -25% doctors, and have tens of thousands of UK citizens die from poor healthcare so they can LEARN their fucking lesson.

If you are a man, you are worth less than a fingernail in western countries. equality above all, even the lives of our citizens.

>>132940994
Yes I agree, and thats why we dont see as many good female chess players as girls, not because females have less cortical neuron connections as one poster said, as asians have more cortical neuron connections than whites but also cant compete with whites in chess.
I raised the point of introducing more young girls to chess because someone asked how to get more good female chess players.


>tfw I actually ate one of those bananas in your picture
It was apparently for some cuck pro-asian immigration shit though.
http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/artist-traps-himself-inside-banana-barrier-at-kitchener-city-hall-1.2937115

>>132915318

I seriously doubt that. Considering like 99% of chess players are male, even at the hobbyist level, a woman who is intelligent enough to play chess would probably assume she is playing against a man if she doesn't know who she is playing against.

>>132925785

Pretty sure you got it backwards, bud. Psychology didn't apply to Bobby Fischer because he was fucking nuts.

>>132925785
Nice spin. Fisher was crazy, and crazy is contagious. He didn't plan any of it.

because they cant compete with men.

>they got tired of losing so they made their own league

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>>132941622
i cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics you need to go through to agree with the points i've raised and still not get it.
as shown in >>132938532, many of the top Chess players are asian and many are white, yes? and none of them are women, yes?

>>132929892
>i don't know any jew games that i can reference that they would excel in

A very disproportionate amount of chess legends were Jews.

>Bobby Fischer even though he denied it
>Mikhail Tal
>Garry Kasparov
>Aron Nimzowitch
>Judit Polgar
>Wilhelm Steinitz

>>132912777
women are far less competitive than men are.

>>132937293
i can dig it.

>>132927257

noooooo. please tell me this is not real.

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>>132943691
it's on jootube, i forget the name of the vid though - it's got a great bit where after that webm ends there's an old man in the stands laughing and wiping away a tear

>>132942934
No, many are not asian, especially considering the size of the pool of asian players.

>>132938145

i take it you don't know many women.

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>>132944663
now you move the goalpost to where you want it to be.
again, the mental gymnastics going on in your head astound me.
if you can be this dense with something so simple, perhaps you should rethink your position on some of the things going on in your life besides this issue, eh?

Someone play me https://lichess.org/SHUdyJv9

>can't even beat a leaf in chess

>>132917220
>less synapses
A woman must have made that infographic considering the atrocious grammar

>>132934545
>one outlier greater than average
whoa stop the fucking presses guys

>>132912777
Because they have more time at home to study a chess board #nofair

>>132912777
>ctrl+f
>0 results for poker

Men are superior in all facets of life OP. Although there will always be outliers, women are not mentally capable enough to succeed in mentally challenging sports like Chess and Poker

why do i feel like sucking my own
dick?

Personally I believe the difference isn't just IQ/intelligence based but also the will to win, the killer instinct

If I/a man wants to win, and I mean really win, he will do anything and everything in his power to crush the opposition, be that in sport, work or life in general, whereas most women are content to be ok, and in that I mean they will reach a point where enough is enough and then cease to compete, most men in whatever aspect of their life will never be truly content and all ways strive for more, that's just my thoughts on the subject, and probably wrong any way.

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>>132935265
>Black woman does a passable middle-of-the-road job at something involving math
>Gets a movie made out of her
I'm so fucking sick of white apologists