"My deputies don't do narcan"

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>>132911323
don't do heroin and you wont die from it
next question.

>>132911674
People make mistakes. Doesn't mean they should perish from it.

>>132911783
and again and again and again and again and again and again etc etc etc genelets are a burden on normal people just let them go anon

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>>132911783
Give them the freedom to die.

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Good

>>132911323
oh no that sucks

>>132911783
Agreed. Most drug addicts are victims of broken families/social isolation. They need community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

>>132911674
/thread
Fuck addicts, they are nothing but a drain on society

>>132911323
just legalize all drugs and let faggots kill themselves if they want to

>>132911783
spoken like a true cuckold

Okay. Seriously, if you save them they can't get clean and they'll live the rest of their lives MISERABLE because they've literally had the most pleasurable experience possible and destroyed their brain's capacity for meaning beyond pleasure.

Better to just let them die enraptured.

>>132911323
HAHHAHAHHAA GOOD, does anyone here actually care about dope heads? Lel you overdose when you know fetanyl is going around, it's on you. There should be a rule to only be allowed to be revived by narcan once

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>>132911783
Loosen government regulations and let the addicts purchase their own narcan.

>>132911323
> Lets addicts die
As opposed to spending resources helping people who aren't trying to kill themselves?
Cry me a freaking river, you special little puke.

>>132911783
>do heroin
>overdose
>do heroin again
>overdose
>do it again
>overdose
>do it yet again
>overdose

Oh, and this isn't a green text jab at you. This is my sister.

>>132912271

Wrong. My sister had a perfectly fine family. Still turned into a heroin using psycho bitch who should be dead now instead of costing tax payers money every time someone calls her a fucking ambulance to the hospital because she overdosed yet again

Drugs are social degeneracy.

But, the "war on drugs" is a total failure. It's a huge waste of time and money, and a power grab by law enforcement. Police serve the public. This is stupid. Stop eating doughnuts, writing tickets for traffic infractions, and serve the community.

>>132911783
>Doesn't mean they should perish from it.
Wrong.

>>132911783
We have too many people already. Why spend public resources keeping criminals from killing themselves?

I'm torn on this subject. On one side, I agree with "let them die", on the other, I am a recovering addict, and have been in situations where I believe I would have been charged with manslaughter had it not been for calling 911 and narcan being administered.

I got three years clean on Monday, and am a productive member of society today, so it's not that all addicts will always be a waste, and narcan can give them the opportunity to turn it around.

However, the odds are not great on the turn around.

I believe Ohio has the worst OD rates in the country now.

>>132911323
Good. Fewer degenerates.

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>>132911674
This we'll also save money.

>>132912650
The war on drugs is just an excuse to arrest niggers. I'm all for it.

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>>132911323

He's just respecting their right to engage in self-destructive behaviors.

>>132911783
>People make mistakes. Doesn't mean white babies should perish from it by abortion.
Right?

>>132911323
my personal opinion on drug addicts who overdose on heroin is that they know the risks and if they don't want to die maybe they shouldn't inject themselves full of shit. in this case, the officers take an oath to protect and serve, they should be obligated to use the narcan in these cases. they shouldn't be able to pick and choose when they want to protect and serve.

>>132911323
My dad is a police chief in my hometown and also refuses to have his officers carry it. If someone is OD'd, EMS is coming anyway. They can administer it, that is their job, not the police's.

Probably cheaper to call a coroner once than repeat ambulance rides.

>>132912457

Nice bro science. A treatment course of a year or more with a dopamine reuptake inhibitor (e.g. Bupropion), along with cognitive behavioral therapy, and key lifestyle changes (diet, exercise, a support network, etc.) can "cure" even the most degenerate of druggies. You underestimate the brain's capacity to "heal" itself, to change established pathways. Drug addicts can be saved and corrected, and as a white you should want to help your fellow whites. Leave that Protestant individualist Ayn Rand bullshit to the Jews.

>>132912613
>Oh, and this isn't a green text jab at you. This is my sister.
I know that feel.

I think since my uncle finally died for an overdose, we have this peace. Nobody worries about where he is, if he is ok, or if the cold weather is making him suffer.

He is dead in the ground and can't hurt anyone with his poor decisions anymore.

>>132912525
You can already get free narcan from many states.

>>132911323
the government admitted to letting drugs into the country under the clinton adminstration

the government has more recently admitted to cutting cocain and heroin with substances that would likely result in death

when the drugs from south america come to america the cia buys them and sells them to high level dealers. they cut everything before the users can even taste it

obviously the government wants junkies to die. state level law enforcement needs to get with the program

>>132912812
>I got three years clean on Monday, and am a productive member of society today, so it's not that all addicts will always be a waste, and narcan can give them the opportunity to turn it around.
Once a junkie, always a junkie. Kill yourself.

>>132911783
Darwin disagrees.

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>>132913084
>Drug addicts can be saved and corrected

>>132913211
>free
Uh huh

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>>132913041

Keeping junkies alive keeps drug dealers in business. They are protecting and serving the rest of the community that aren't loser drug addicts or drug dealers. Like you said, they knew the risks. They're adults, if they make a bad decision they must live with the consequences, all of them.

>>132911323
Kill all hard drug dealers or people selling stuff to minors and then get help for the people addicted to that stuff.

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>>132913073
This

>>132911674
>>132911783
>muh white genocide
>whites dying due to overdose
>fuck em, degenerates

>>132911323

Spectacular news. Junkies should be shot

>>132912613
Did you not watch the video?

Roughly 95% of heroin users in the US military in Vietnam quit the drug when they came back home to their families and community.

People bond with other people naturally, and when they cannot do that, they bond with other things that give them that sense of relief.

Though I do not know your sister's case, she is an anomaly.

Pretty sure my country would do the same. If he's selling heroin then it's death penalty.

>>132911323
And nothing of value was lost.

>>132913041
>they should be obligated to use the narcan in these cases.
They aren't medical personnel.

>>132911323
doing god's work

should just blast them in the face though when they show up, get it over with

What does it feel like to be high on heroin?

>>132913252
Standard cliche. I get it. Again, it's possible to stop using and become a productive member of society. Unfortunately, the statistics are pretty low.

>>132913084
I think willingness is a huge factor. I know addicts that have repeated overdoses, gone to multiple treatment facilities and still go back to using. It possibly comes down to not addressing the root of what is making them "run" from "feelings". Which can be addressed in behavioral therapy as you mentioned.

I woke up one day and realized it took millions of years of generations surviving and passing down their genes to what ultimately resulted in my existence, and I was going to wither away and die with a needle in my arm that gave me the willingness to change.

Slippery slope right here. Car accident that was your fault? Let you die. Smoker, fuckem, knew the risks. Jaywalking and get run over, screw it.

Remember some of the greatest music and art from the ancients to bowie was under the influence.

Plus the first rich kid they let die, they'd better lawyer up fast...

>>132911783
Heroin addicts will never fucking stop though.

>>132911783
Let their addict genetics leave the gene pool.

>>132913041
This. Anyone doing this shit knows the risks they are taking, but at the same time its not right to just let someone die if you literally have the tools right there to try and save them. I don't see how an officer could not even try to help a dying person and still sleep at night, even if that person is a piece of shit who probably will just OD again.

>>132913637
>Though I do not know your sister's case, she is an anomaly.
Bull fucking shit she is.

No one has been able to actually recreate the success that the Vietnam veterans had in regards to changing addicting behaviors.

Glad I don't live in America with their fucked up health care system

>>132911783
>Doesn't mean they should perish from it.
Yes, yes it does, you fucking faggot

>>132913742
It's a dreamlike state that vindicate all your previous failures. You should try it, leaf.

>>132913829
>it's possible to stop using and become a productive member of society.
Bullshit. You will relapse, it's just a question of time you fucking waste of space.

>>132911783
>what's natural evolution

>>132911783
Heroin.. mistake.. I'm sweetie if heroin is an activity you consider.. it's to late to save you

>>132913925
You could spend your free time helping countless people anywhere in the world, including junkies, and probably save some lives, but you don't do it because you would rather sit in your room reading 4chan jerking off and playing video games. How can you sleep at night?

>>132911323
I love that man, he will always have my vote.

>>132912812
Good for you mate. I spent a couple of years on smack, got my head sorted - went to uni, got married, great job. Looking back its like a different life. Methadone is the fucker, you can end up getting maintained for decades...

>>132911323
More dead druggies is positive.
We are all about positivity.

Why should my tax dollars be used repeatedly to help people with no self control and an inability to take responsibility for their situation? Who put a gun to their heads to try meth, crack, heroin? Who doesn't know the dangers of using this shit? Your body, your choice. My money, my choice. You want narcan? Buy it yourself and hire someone to administer it to you when you again fuck up and over dose.

>>132911783

Its called darwinism. There are known issues with drugs killing people, even seasoned users OD'ing on the shit. If you consciously decide to inject, smoke, or otherwise imbibe of an agent known for killing people, and you die. It was because you are an idiot and get what you deserve.

>>132911783
If they die by their own hand, that's a different story.

>>132912650
Drug addicts are not the community.

>>132911323
Nothing wrong with this. Addicts are mostly just a drain on resources anyway.

Don't want to die then don't shoot smack. Simple.

Good.

Don't get involved with heroin. The problem will fix itself.

Yes. Because let's keep the IV drug users alive and not decrease the HIV gene pool.

Most heroin users who are smart enough know/don't care that they will die if/when they fuck it up, and those are too stupid to know that shouldn't be reproducing anyway.

>>132911323
>letting trash clean itself
How is it bad?
>>132912613
Well, that's fucking sad.
>>132912812
>not that all addicts will always be a waste
My friend was clean for five years. Was.

>>132911323

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>>132913084
I'd love to see the studies showing the effectiveness of those treatments, since you seem to know a lot of details about them.

And as another poster mentioned, that doesn't take into account willingness. Without the will to get clean, all the treatment in the world won't work. Best to just let them die and save the resources for people who want help, not dumbasses overdosing in a condemned house.

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>The suggestion to let addicts die from their overdose brings into question the responsibility of the state to protect people from themselves.

There it is

>>132911783
>Doesn't mean they should perish from it.
Yes it does. Own up, you manchild.

>>132912613
>>132913129

Yeah. My best friend's sister died, and I've got a few other friends and acquaintances on their way. There's no turning back for them.

All these old red neck cops will go away in time.

>>132914190
I ended up going cold turkey. I heard a few horror stories about methadone and was like fuck that. I am a strong advocate for therapy vs. replacement programs.

Back to the topic at hand, I think a lot of countries particularly in heavy using regions like Ohio, are frustrated on the amount of tax dollars going to narcan administration. That's why I am torn on this topic, I hate the fact that tax payers are paying for saving someones life who is a drain on their community, but I also know from my own experience, and countless others experiences, that people can change their lifes around. Sometimes, it's that overdose they woke up in an ambulance in that gives them the "wake up call"

we should go in the other direction t b h, can't the cops distribute a shit ton of poisoned heroin or something? would be fuggin great dead junkies as far as the eye can see

>>132913829
What did the big junkie say to the little junkie?
I lost your dope

>>132914729
>I also know from my own experience, and countless others experiences, that people can change their lifes around.
I've never met a junkie, currently using or not, worth saving.

>>132911323
Good.

>>132912613
>This is my sister
any pics of her? I'd like them when she's high if possible

>>132913870
its not a slippery slope, you go out of your way to make an excessively bad decision you deserve what comes from it.

>>132914845
This.
They're usually fucking scumbags to begin with.

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(((google)) project DAWN - sit through a 40 minutes presentation and anyone can get a kit

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>>132911323
I want productive American driving to work to be safe

I want irresponsible junkies shooting up to be allowed to kill themselves.

There is a safe, right way to drive to work.
There is no safe, right way to shoot heroin.

>>132914729
>every year spend millions of dollars saving the lives of deadbeat junkies
>perhaps one out of every hundred MIGHT go straight
>wat do
Tough call

>>132911323
Ban narcan and legalize heroin.. opioid problem will fix it's self in a few months. Our grandparents were given roxys like pezz candy and they weren't the generation of junkies like we have today. fuckem

"Be the change you want to see in the world"
t. Buddha

>>132912613
anecdotes are not arguments.

no fascist state would have ever let its citizens die to overdose.

I wonder how many Heroin junkies we have on /pol/? It wouldn't surprise me if we had more than a few.

>>132911323

>cops without medical training should administer medice

first of all, you are retarded for thinking you can force them to do this. Second, LET THE WORTHLESS JUNKIE DIE.

>>132915474
I don't understand why anyone would ever do drugs. Like what the fuck do you think will happen.

>>132914132
Because I'm not in the position of helping people. I don't stock the shelves at the grocery store because I don't work there. I don't deliver pizzas because I don't work at Dominos. I don't help people ODing because I don't work for emergency services. What's your fucking point?

>>132911629
Welcome to the Midwest. Where money is more important than a person

Recovering addict here. I have love for my fellow addicts but some cannot be saved and some do not learn. I have yet to od and I've done plenty of dope, mixed with other drugs too. Its simple, if you are gonna dabble with chemicals know what the fuck you are putting in your system ahead of time.

I have no sympathy for tards shooting a half g of dope their first day back on it.

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>>132911323

That sheriff needs to be terminated from his job. When you take a job like that in law enforcement or the medical field, you have to treat every person/patient equally - regardless of their reason for being there. There are going to be times when you when you come across a person/patient when the countertransference will be strong, but you still have to give them an equal unbiased and objective professional help like you would with any other person. This isn't the universe of Judge Dredd: that cop is not jury, judge, and executioner. His job is to protect and serve while upholding the law, not decided if someone deserves to be put in jail or die. He needs to uphold the ethics and principles he promised to follow when he put on that badge/responsibility.

People get the disease of addiction for many reasons. Yes, there are some who are opioid addicts because a good portion of their hedonistic lives they spent chasing for better and stronger highs. Unfortunately, most opioid addicts are former regular law-abiding people who became addicted because of an opioid prescription they were given during a time of illness. Most opioid addicts didn't start with experimenting with heroin, that's like assuming all alcoholics started with their first drink being moonshine. The author of the article makes a great point: what if he's the first one on scene to an accidental overdose of an innocent, like a toddler who curiously got into a parent's prescribed Vicodin? Under typical conditions, brain and heart tissue start to die within just 4-6 minutes: EVERY SECOND FUCKING MATTERS.

(Continued.)

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>>132915846


He doesn't carry naloxone (Narcan) because of officer safety? Get the fuck out of here, you have a gun on the side of your hip among other weapons that can kill accidentally or at the very least cause serious harm. You got into law enforcement knowing damn well the job would require you to go into even more dangerous situations than an overdose, like an active shooting or domestic abuse. If this was about officer safety regarding something like this, you might as well not respond to even more dangerous crimes (like the ones I mentioned before). I know fellow former hospital employees and heard serious stories of HCPs getting seriously injured, like broken vertebrae, because of dealing with drugged-up patients (PCP, Meth, etc.). Does that allow us the excuse to turn away all drug addicts and overdoses? Fuck no. We chose to do the job aware of the risks and we do it professionally unbiased, unlike this coward.

TL;DR: That cop is being a selfish and emotionally-immature little cunt. His excuse is a pretext to hide his personal bullshit beliefs he wants to enforce on the rest of his department.

>>132915608
most drugs are pretty harmless

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>>132911323
>My deputies don't do narcan

Fuckin awesome, fuck god damn junkies, some junky MIGHT rebound and benefit society, however, I bet they are in the junky population at a rate of less than 10% and even if they did rebound, they (and other junkies for that matter) would cost SO much gibsmedat to rehabilitate that it's not worth it

Die in the fucking streets like the Democrats cry about.

>>132914132
>You could spend your free time helping countless people anywhere in the world, including junkies
Id rather spend time at the gun range practicing drills in case the junkies get too close to my neighborhood

>>132915846
>When you take a job like that in law enforcement or the medical field, you have to treat every person/patient equally

IS THE SHERIFF IN THE MEDICAL FIELD?!?!?!?

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>does drug knowing it could kill them
>dies from overdose

Clearly this is the governments fault and mess to clean up

>>132915436
no fascist state would tolerate one of its agencies distributing drugs on its territory to finance black ops, get a grip

>graduate from 2 year degree
>think you're going to save lives
>get first job, saving the community, making barely more than minimum wage
>arrive on scene at local ghetto for the 5th time this week (It's only Tuesday), administer life saving drugs, get beat up and put in intensive care for "stealing my dope"
>slowly drink myself to death

>>132912613

I lost my best friend of 16 years to it. He didn't care, wanted to die, so just did a shit ton of drugs for years. Moved to smack after roxies. He wouldn't have wanted to be resuscitated.

>>132913590
Degenerate whites lose the ability to call themselves whites.

In my eyes they're no better than a nigger.

Why are you all so staunchly against people who use or are addicted to drugs? Such a huge percentage of the populace have some form of drug addiction, and they are for the most part very nice people who use things therepeutically

I understand everyone likes to project a strong right wing stance, but why exactly do you think these people should be killed? If its the usually "they cost tax payers money" do you not think a solution should be found that would fix this, that isnt mercilessly killing them?

>>132916141
>administer life saving drugs

NOT THE COPS JOB. THAT IS WHAT EMT IS FOR. That being said, pop over to /k/ to read up on how much shit EMTs go into to do this crap and how they are barred from any for of defense, be it arms or armor.

>>132916007

Nice sharpshooter fallacy.

Love how you ignored

>When you take a job like that in law enforcement

And refused to read the rest of my post leading to what I mean.

>>132916246
I'm saying the people who are repeat offenders.... aka have overdosed 3+ times. Why continue to waste time and resources on someone who doesn't want help

>>132913041
They have no obligation to protect anyone. This was decided when those bitch NY cops watched from behind a locked door while a psycho attacked citizens on the subway with a machete. Despite being armed and easily able to stop the assault they simply watched while a man wrestled the whack job to the ground. Then they were so busy arresting the bad guy they never bothered with first aid. Dude almost bled to death while they watched and did nothing. Never even touched him.
They have no obligation to help or protect anyone.

>"help thy neighboor"
>lol, fuck off junkie

American christians are the biggest cancer in the world. Thank go they are being replaced

>>132916300

SHERIFF IS NOT EMT

NOT EMT. NO. EMT IS MEDICALLY TRAINED. NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT. You are going to force a COP to play DOCTOR and the first time someone messes up in dosage the cop and his entire department will be sued to oblivion.

Fuck off you worthless nigger.

>>132914271
They're not "your" tax dollars, asshole, they're *ours*.

>>132916438

>all american cops must be american christians

>>132916641
>flag faggot pays anything in taxes

>>132913590
>defending the worst of your race from the consequences of their own actions
nigger logic.

>>132916296
I have a distant relative who works EMT in Atlanta. Always keeps a gun in his boot, fuck what they say you have to be prepared in bad neighborhoods.

>>132916541
Yeah because theyre so stupid they would hand a cop a complex medkit and not a couple fucking pre made epi pens.

Cops of all people should know some first aid and medicine for fucks sake

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>>132911323
That's a relief. I thought some faggot liberal was going to make me and my family pay for them to continue doing heroine. Another win for America.

>>132911323
What about girls that got kidnapped and made addicted to heroin on purpose to prostitute them?

>>132916438
Your neighbor isn't born a junky, most likely, they make a MULTITUDE of life choice that lead them to becoming an H addict.

When do you give up on a person, who do they stop deserving compassion? Do they have to be a pedo rapist murderer before you give up?

If some faggot starts his whole life hanging out on the streets, not educating himself, smoking pot, drinking all the time, then gradually working his way up the ladder to becoming an H junky, and then doesn't have the wherewithal to check into any one of the free rehab centers, fuck the faggot, he's a detriment to society.

I suppose you want predetermined full retard, no chance at life babies carried to term and then fully cared for at a million dollars a year to be a burden born by the taxpayer, right?

Fuckin kill yourself you degenerate enabler

>>132916541
Cops are forced to be so many professions, chaplain, therapist, lawyer, Life coach, etc. It's ridiculous, and it shows what heroes the good cops are, and what disgraceful bastards the bad ones are.

>>132916246
Heroin isn't just any drug. Any addiction that causes one to steal or sell their body to continue supporting the habit is nearly impossible to come back from. Hell, I smoke weed and used to have an adderall problem. I'm not for killing people but there's not much point in forcefully saving someone who doesn't care if they die. Prolonging the inevitable. Personal responsibility has to factor in at some point. I'm all for helping those willing to help themselves out of hell.

>>132916836

good for him, pray he never has to use it because he will get the book thrown at him.

>>132916931

NOT IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. INJECTING SHIT IS NOT THE SAME AS A BANDAID. THEY WILL BE SUED INTO OBLIVION.

>>132916641
>They're not "your" tax dollars, asshole, they're *ours*
Not if you're an unemployed junkie

>>132915638
lol sweet excuses.

they can watch those shitstains die for the same reason you do, because they're worthless shitstains.

>>132911323
I wish my sister would overdose and die she has always been a problem.

>>132915940
Most drugs make you extreme stupid if used over a longer period.

>>132911323
its fine. the addicts would rather die anyway.
he's just being progressive.

>>132911323
Haha fucking two faced murricans, all your kids are on prescription drugs already, you guys even prescribe meth now. But oooh no opioid users are so much worse and deserve to die

Get off your high horse, you aren't any better by taking prescription meth

>>132917496
I've had this same conversation with about 5 different people with addicts in the family, the addicts are more trouble than they're worth. I wished for a long time my bro would just die, because, it was always a midnight phone call about him crashing his car into a swamp or some shit and all it did was shave years off my folks lives, just die and be done with the pain on everyones part.

>>132916296
I have a feeling he is with EMT - cops usually make a bit more than minimum wage. Paramedics...notasmuch.

>>132911783
You say "people make mistakes" as though every mistake is equal, as though shooting up heroin despite knowing the risks associated with it is comparable to buying the wrong cut of beef out of ignorance.

You can and should expect to die when you recklessly engage in any behavior which you can reasonably expect to be fatal.
Please, put whatever poison into your body you like, but stop trying to make others responsible for your irresponsibility.

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>>132917846
>people wonder why gerrt lost

>>132917846
>Get off your high horse, you aren't any better by taking prescription meth
Except its completely different you dumb idiot.

>>132911323
>Implying this isn't just a plan for the police to get more gibs me dat tax payer money by having a shit ton of OD's.
Oy vey goys we need more of your shekels to fight the heroin dealing that's killing all these people.

>>132915184

Good illustration, sir.

Use to hang out with junkies. Honestly have no sympathy for their choices. It is a selfish choice to be on the gear. Best mate became the worst kind of degenerate. Addiction yeah but they choose to continue due to not wanting to deal with life shit.

once an opiate user is hooked, taking the drug is not a choice. that is the nature of opiates.

Addicts should be incarcerated and given a naltrexone implant.

>>132917846
what if we just let all degenerates die?
>obese
let them die.
>drug addict
let them die
>aids faggots
let them die

Eventually society would correct itself. Maybe saving everyone all the time is the biggest problem with modern society. Is anything honestly enabling degeneracy more than the fact we are saving their lives no matter how shitty they are? I think you'll find the answer is no.

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>>132912271
>Most drug addicts are victims of broken families/social isolation.

Only a tiny minority of the dope addicts that I've known were from broken families. You oughtn't to spout stuff that you're not clear on.

>>132911783
People make mistakes in extreme sports. They have accidents. They die. In societies where people have a large amount of self determination and an ability to make their own choices is there a difference? I don't think so. To say otherwise is to say that addicts are completely without self-control and unable to deal with themselves. In that case we ought to lock them all up.

>>132918188

that is the subplot of superman : red son

>>132914691

Out of curiosity, is there a turn back to the 80's 90's happening there?

>>132911783
eat shit, they stop being mistakes when people do it knowing the consequences

>>132915846
>>132915909
People who get narcan from cops often end up fighting those cops. It isn't worth it. Regardless of that, police are not medical personnel. It isn't their job to do that.

>>132911783
Never heard of survival of the fittest, eh?

>>132916541

EMT IS BASIC LIFE SUPPORT AND WE HAVE GOOD SAMARITAN LAWS FOR A FUCKING REASON, YOU JACK-OFF. ALSO, THEY DON'T JUST GIVE THEM FUCKING NALOXONE AND SEND THEM OFF: THEY RECEIVE TRAINING THAT INCLUDES HOW TO SPOT S/Sx AND ADMINISTER THE MEDICATION PROPERLY DEPENDING ON THE ROUTE YOU LIVING MISCARRIAGE.

FFS, cops are doing something even simpler than an EMT you failed abortion. Just if this particular incident happens, administer this medication this way. USING A NASAL SPRAY AND AN IM INJECTION IS NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT: YOU LITERALLY JUST SPRAY UP THE NOSE OR STAB 'EM IN THE THIGH TO ADMINISTER DIRECTLY INTO THE MUSCLE. Using your and the cop's monkey-level logic numbnuts, I can argue that cops shouldn't help someone going into anaphylaxis from a severe allergy because they're too stupid to use an Epi-Pen (also an IM autoinjector) designed to be injected in the thigh.

nys, you ignorant and yet highly opinionated fool (I forgot the term for that).

https://pharmacy.ohio.gov/Documents/Pubs/Naloxone/LawEnforcement/Law%20Enforcement%20Naloxone%20Guidance%20Document.pdf

>>132911323
They won't be missed.

>>132918188
I'm not saying go out of your way to save them, it's their own choice. But the bunch on here acting all superior on here are ignorant af when their government meanwhile is prescribing hard drugs to little kids, I don't hear anyone complaining about that, probably because they're all high on it themselves

>>132918172
I've quit using H twice. It's not like movies, it's not that hard to quit you get over the dependency in a couple days where you basically just sleep the whole time.

>>132917846
the difference is, they are giving people this shit in the ambulance, and they wake up and then if they ar on meth, or pcp, or something else the narcand doesnt help with that.

now you have a fully alert, hallucinating person going berzerk in a ambulance hurting or killing the emt's inside or the police.

The addicts would rather die anyway, et them die. Its progressive. No worse than assisted suicide, except you dont actually have to assisst.

>>132911323
Who cares? I'm sick and tired of all this "we should feel sorry for addicts and homeless" shit. We all know that they made the wrong decisions to get there. People who make the wrong decisions consistently enough to get to the heroin or homeless stage don't deserve to stay in the gene pool.

>>132911323
Have fun getting fired asshole.

>>132918473

>WAHHHHH WAHHH WAHHHH I NEED EVERYONE AROUND ME TO BE A DOCTOR SO I CAN MAKE SUICIDAL DECISIONS AND BE A BURDEN THE WOOOOOORLD WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

please OD in an abandoned parking lot

>>132918473
>USING A NASAL SPRAY AND AN IM INJECTION IS NOT FUCKING DIFFICULT: YOU LITERALLY JUST SPRAY UP THE NOSE OR STAB 'EM IN THE THIGH TO ADMINISTER DIRECTLY INTO THE MUSCLE.
That immediately pulls them out of the high surrounded by cops. They then start swinging because they don't want to get arrested and feel absolutely horrible form having their high ruined. It isn't a cops job.

>>132916296

I was an EMT you fucking dumbass, you can carry a fucking Mag Light that's basically a heavy metal fucking club and carry a pocket knife like most EMTs do. If you're life is seriously in danger, you have the right to defend yourself: no court is going to punish an EMT that was choking out to death his fellow EMT/paramedic partner. EMTS are taught this hierarchy regarding dangerous situations:

1. Your safety.
2. Your Partner's.
3. The patient's.

>>132918685
>I've quit using H twice.
He said with zero irony.

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>>132911323
The government doesn't get to choose what a junkie can do with their body.
Junkie's body. Junkie's choice.

>>132918936

>a fleshlight is better than being allowed a gun

cuck

>>132911323
Good. If your dumb enough to OD you should die. Drug addicts are a drain on society let them die.

>>132911323
Archive link ffs post the archive!
http://bit DOT ly/2sSdrt7

>>132911323
Actually a good idea : narcan is just like H but less symptoms of use, fatally addictive. Sure people will die, but it will prevent future narcan use in the future

Gotta crack a few eggs OP

>>132918698
Nobody and I mean absolutely fucking nobody is taking heroin and pcp or meth at the same time. That's like saying "you know those cokeheads, always taking some NyQuil and Tylenol PM when they are snorting rails"

>>132911323
>Implying personal responsibility for ones actions is bad

>>132912812
You fucked up forever reducing your value. And your net contribution to society will now be reduced. Homeless and addicts and poor genetic specimen should be culled. When family units were a thing it was acceptable because families could motivate each other, but in a broken society with socialistic programmes I find failures unacceptable and deserving of no mercy.

>>132911323
Good.

Druggies die, God laughs.

>>132911323
Stop pharma co's from manufacturing opiates.

Most people get strung out by their Dr. Then when the Dr. Stops the script they turn to the streets and stick a needle in the arm.

Fortunately for me I was scared of needles.

The only way off is to replace the habit with another habit that is less harmful. I turned to high doses of weed.

Then went off weed for coffee.
Now stone cold sober

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>we need to be able to abort children because they may be too large of a burden on single mothers and society in general
>drug users should be given all the help they need. everyone, including the mentally ill, have a right to life

fucking libs man

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>>132918903

You're an unethical ignorant simpleton who is incapable of moral dialectic, you're just resorting to using basic insults at this point. You are highly opinionated about subjects you have done little research in: you are literally the personification of one of the weaknesses in a stable constitutional democracy.

Know that even though I think you are a hypocritical and egocentric human being, I'd still save your and your loved ones lives.

Good day to you sir.

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Don't do drugs then. Very fucking simple

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>Assissted suicide is grrrrreeeeEAAT!
>POLICE NEED TO HELP WITH OVERDOESES FUCK YOU TRUMP

In These states, your insurance company will try to convince your doctor to administer assissted suicide if you have a fatal illness, even if there is a curative treatment.... because its cheaper.

>WAAAA, TRUMPS AMERICA WOULD LET PEOPLE KILL THEMSELVES

>>132919418

lol, what is reddit down? Can't get your cock / opiate fix?

The whole world need to suck your dick for you too?

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>>132911323

>>132911783
But today, the current year, people should know not to use heroin. At some point addicts have to take personal responsibility, but I think letting them die is pretty harsh.

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> Carry narcan because paranoid of the mudshits using fentanyl in a terrorist attack
>See degenerates ODing in malls and in downtown
>don't give them any

Almost 80 per cent of street drugs tested for fentanyl was laced with the potentially deadly opioid, a nine-month pilot study has found.
The study found more than 80 per cent of the heroin and crystal meth and about 40 per cent of the cocaine brought into Insite by clients contained illicit fentanyl. In many cases, they’re cut into drugs without users knowing.

It’s hard to say how common laced marijuana is because users rarely admit they’ve encountered it unless they end up in the emergency room from it. Fresh marijuana smells green, like plants, grass or leaves. If it smells harsh, like gasoline, nail polish remover or other chemicals, it may have been laced. Look for blue or white crystals. These are signs that the marijuana may have been laced. Brown crystals can be natural to certain types of marijuana. The only way to really know for sure is to buy a drug testing kit. Kits can test for cocaine and meth, but not for other drugs, so just be aware that they can’t catch everything.

Price for an average dose of heroin, which produces a high that lasts four to six hours: $10

>>132919586 Continued

Fentanyl, an opioid 100 times more potent than heroin, has been a "game changer" for drug overdose deaths in B.C. One hypothesis for the sudden and staggering increase in November and December is the emergence of an even more potent opioid than fentanyl — Carfentanil, a synthetic opioid up to 10,000 times more potent than morphine, is used to tranquilize large animals such as elephants and elk. Those who administer it typically wear gloves, a face shield and other protective gear and have someone on hand with a reversal agent.

Fentanyl's potency makes it attractive to drug traffickers who can smuggle in many doses in a small package, and deadly to users because a dose the size of a grain of sand can kill. The majority of fentanyl fuelling the North American overdose crisis, however, is illicit fentanyl, largely manufactured in China. It can be purchased online and its high potency allows it to be smuggled small packages through regular mail.

Fentanyl is"an absolute money-maker" for traffickers: potent;easy to smuggle because of the tiny amount needed for a high; easily obtained over the internet; and attractive to people beyond street-level users.

Naloxone (brand name Narcan) is a drug that reverses the effects of an opioid overdose within a few minutes. It is available in both injectable and nasal-spray formulations. While one dose is typically enough to reverse the effects of a heroin overdose, overdoses from more potent opioids such as fentanyl can require several doses.

Funny thing is

often junkies get mad, even violent when you revive them with narcan because it destroys their high

fuck junkies

>>132912895
>implying niggers do heroin

>>132918155
>Addiction yeah but they choose to continue due to not wanting to deal with life shit.

True enough. An addict still makes a choice between dealing with the short-term difficulties of quitting and submitting to their addiction. "Muh addiction" is a cop–out. They either don't feel responsible for their addiction or they lack the moral courage to defy it.

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>>132919333
fucking confounding i swear

>>132919715
I'd say heroin is what destroyed the black community back in the 1970's

>>132911323
Based

>>132916183
>>132916801
>2050
>only the pure whites remaining
>20% of American population
>okay guys now is the time

>>132911323
>degenerates attempt to kill themselves with drugs
>police try to get them to stop
>somehow it's the police's fault when they kill die

>>132919878
feel free to fuck junkie "white" women then dude. Enjoy sharing her cunt with all the coal she had shoved up in there.

>>132911783
You're responsible for the life you save. You don't just save these people. You need to build them a new life, while our taxes go towards a 12 month rehabilitation program on our dime because giving them a big ass check at the end of it might throw them back to addiction. Letting them die is the best option for society, unless you want to spend 100k a year to help them.

>>132919585
Are you fucking autistic or do you just watch too much bullshit local news? How the fuck are terrorist going to use fentanyl to attack you? Do you go to punch bowl socials or something? Because that's about the only way I can see a terrorist fentanyl attack working.

>>132919418
None of that negates what he said.

>>132919989
Wow, is that really canadian logic?

I guess I understand why it is that when you kill your enemies, they win. Canadians are retarded.

>>132915659
OH here.

my local hospital ran out of Narcam. they used what was supposed to be a month's supply in a week. It's just a revolving door at this point.

May as well let them leave if they are set on it

>>132911323
GUYS WHERE IS THE NORD OF ARCHIVING LINKS?

>>132911674
quran says specifically not to take intoxicating substances. this is good action on cops, upholdin ghte quoran

>>132920097
At some point addicts are going to have to take responsibility. I don't think of addicts as evil people, I just think they're stupid because they should know better

>>132913870
>Slippery slope right here. Car accident that was your fault? Let you die. Smoker, fuckem, knew the risks. Jaywalking and get run over, screw it.
I second this.

In fact, apparently people on this board confuse judiciary with justice.

It is not up to the police to decide whether or not you should live. It is up to the judge. Police officers shall do as told and protect the community. Not make life and death decisions on behalf of courts.

Good.
Maybe this will start culling the herd.
Junkies and alcoholics are basically the no.1 reason why cops are constantly being called all over the place.
If they let the junkies thin their numbers a bit, it's only beneficial for everyone.
It's really hard to see downsides here.
Besides these degenerates are going to off themselves at some point anyways.
Keeping them alive is only prolonging the process and costing tax dollars. They might as well be on constant life support with the state keeping them alive.

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>>132911783

>be dumb retarded shitsmeared liberal
>Want's completely open borders
>Doesn't want border patrol to stop drug smuggling
>wants citizenship for all no matter where they come from or their intensions
>complains about fascist police all day every day
>is against death penalty and right wing death squads
>want's to legalize all drugs
>complain when people die of drugs

tl;dr get in the fucking helicopter

>>132913870
but driving a car isn't illegal

>>132919333
>Children from degenerate drug whores should be born
>Let it rot once it's squeezed out

Really makes you think.

>>132911323
Good

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>>132911783
thanks UN we can always count on you to know all about making mistakes

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>>132919586
>>132919650
>Carfentanil, a synthetic opioid up to 10,000 times more potent than morphine,
lol what the fuck, the chinks are actively trying to conquer your country dude

>>132911783
Except that if the cop fucks up the dose even a little they will die from withdrawal. Narcan is dangerous, it immediately stops opiates from taking effect, this makes them not high, but it can also trigger withdrawal symptoms as well. Withdrawal can actually cause instant death.

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>>132913590
i am not white nor do i care about the existence of the white race or the future of white children :D

>>132920097
Ohiofag here as well. I used to use and the reason we have so many OD's is because the H that comes here is a toss up for how strong it's gonna be, you never really know. I'm not even a big "legalize all drugs man" guy but if we had legal heroin our OD's would drop overnight to almost zero. Kinda weird how that would work but it would.

>>132913742
it's like drinking a glass of whiskey while two people lick your tits

>>132920300
We had an officer OD when some fentanyl dust got on his hand during a tackle or something, Narcam literally saved him.

In another case, a baby OD'd because it got heroin on its hands crawling around a living room floor, the junkie mom was passed out. failed its fortitude roll and died.

all in the gr8 st8 of OH

>>132920616

That stuff is basically a contact poison too. A person touches it, then passes out awhile later from micrograms.

>>132912613
My brother Just died May 5 from an Overdose. He has always been the golden boy, coming from a rich family that both loved him, and never expected anything from him. He fell into a degenerate culture in middle school and it eventually killed him.


The kicker is that they gave him so much more than me in terms of love, respect, and free gibs
While he slipped into degeneracy and died like a hood rat, I've struck out on my own, moved abroad, finished post-grad work, and am now making my own money. Go figure.

Point is Junkies get what they deserve, the resources of the rich and middle class should not be spent on keeping lowlifes alive like my brother and your sister.

>>132915846
Your graph seems a bit too charitable.
After the 4th minute of hypoxia, your likelihood to recover is barely 10% and, if you make it, brain damage is assured.

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>>132919650
>>132919650

>The majority of fentanyl fuelling the North American overdose crisis, however, is illicit fentanyl, largely manufactured in China.
>C H I N A

There's your fucking conspiracy boys - the Chinese are getting vengeance on the West for their "Century of Humiliation" and the opium crisis by manufacturing and shipping drugs into the US and the West.

We're are becoming a nation of addicts thanks to the Chinese and the complicit CIA. Also, who the fuck knows what chemicals the Chinese have been using to cut the drugs. For all we know they could be slowly poisoning this nation at large.

War has changed.

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>>132920001

Which was nothing or already destroyed by my previous counter arguments. The insult was a response to an insult he gave after he ran out of arguments. For some reason this idiot thinks people are just given easy-to-use emergency medication without any training whatsoever. On top of training, shit like this is designed to be easy to use for the medically illiterate public: they literally give the instructions in the form of colorful pictures, so morons like IZTTRely with the intelligence of toddler can used them properly.

FFS, Automatic External Defibrillators (AEDs; a machine that literally restarts your heart) all have simple picture instructions with them, so their very simple usage can be used even by people who've never taken a CPR class in a safe and proper manner.

>>132920849
We're starting to stock narcan at our FD as well - not for injection into OD patients (that's EMS's job, poor fucks) but in case we come in contact with it.
It's hard to balance being a first responder professionally while wanting these junkie fucks to just stay dead already.

>>132911323
Slide thread. sage

>>132911323
Degenerates should be allowed to die if they can't solve the problem themselves.

>>132921007

jesus you are pathetic. like junkie level of pathetic.

>>132916541
You're nitpicking.
In Ausfailia any faggot with a first aid certification can administer some basic drugs, especially if they are being carried by the patient (e.g. Epipen)

>>132918685
>I've quit using H twice
>it's not that hard to quit

xD

>>132920946
China is actually ending Fentanyl production from a lot of shady sources. Turns out, Mao has been trying to cut back on his narcotic problem too.

>>132915608
Because there is a hole in their heart where religion and family are supposed to go.

>>132921007

>and aed used on a heart attack victim is the same as injectedd medicene

oh you silly nigger

>>132920946
You don't cut drugs like fentanyl you fucking stoop. The whole purpose of it is to sprinkle a little bit in bunk H to make it stronger.

>Letting useless smackheads with no self-control die off.
What is wrong with this, again?

>>132921080
>Major public health problem tying up legal and medical resources
>A slide thread

>>132920289
lol you think your religion prevents people from doing drugs? Look at Afghanistan, like 10% of the population is addicted to opium

>>132911323
Narcan costs 50 taxpayer dollars a dose, these fucking junkies aren't worth nearly that

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>>132911882
>genelets

My fucking sides

Purge all Heresy ! Including Heroin Addiction !

>>132920616

Hey, not just Canada but the USA too.
Detroit, Portland—it's all over the place.

>>132921301

Yeah, you're right. Injecting medicine via IN or IM is way easier and safer than using an AED.

Literally exposed thigh, stab thigh, press button, life saved.

Exposed nose, put into nose, press button, life saved.

>>132921211

>cops being asked to be doctors is nit picking

enjoy the medical malpractice suits

>>132918796
>should feel sorry for addicts and homeless
Excuse me? Who has ever said you should feel sorry? Guilt can be appropriate sometimes, but unfounded feelings of guilt are cancer for the brain.
Guilt literally causes depression. It's established scientifically.

Who ever claimed you should feel guilty for other people? Understanding, maybe. Sympathetic, possibly. But guilty? Fuck you.

>>132921286

dam son das deep right there

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Purge Heroin Addiction !

>>132921488
Not just the drugs though, the chinks own like half of your entire country's land. You gotta get those chinks to fuck off.

>>132921007
>a machine that literally restarts your heart
No - it interrupts ventricular fibrillation to facilitate proper cardiac rhythm. It doesn't restart shit - it interrupts shit.

Is the heroin epidemic a ploy by niggers and spics to kill off the white population? Are niggers and spics smarter than we think they are?

>>132921520
>life saved.
if you can consider that a life

more like, taxpayer money wasted

>>132921239
>xD
Are you 12 years old?

I don't know why people take public drugs if they don't care about the public. Also emts save druggies not the cops so I dunno why this is news, cops are just state criminals never expect anything from them.

>>132921381
>Narcan costs 50 taxpayer dollars a dose, these fucking junkies aren't worth nearly that

Well, it cost a lot more for the ambulance teams and cops to go into action. Plus some addicts can overdose dozens of times — sometimes three times a day.

>>132921520
I've followed your posts for a bit - you sound an awful lot like a rescue ricky.
GOTTA SAVE ALL DEM LIVES
If you've been in a first responder role for any length of time...you know damned well not all lives are equal. Nor should they be considered to be.
I'm in fire - I'll risk my ass for granny screaming out a window of a structure fire, but I rather hope jonnie dirtbag in the gutter has assumed room temperature by the time we get there.

>>132911674
Oh fuck. Hol up.
...
Dat makes sense, yoyo!

>>132921875

they'd only od once if you let the worthless niggers die

>>132920946
rumblings are that the chinese are helping the cartels move it across the border. they're facilitating the shipments from asia to mexico in their cargo manifests.

it's war

>>132921664

Also V-tach, not just V-Fib. Thank you for the correction.

>>132912271
I'm a victim of that, and I'm not a heroin addict. Go suck my dick, you fucking soft fagget. Let them drown in their own dopamine

>>132920485
>>Let it rot once it's squeezed out
no no no
you let it die if he chooses to by injecting poison voluntarily into his own body
hopefully i cleared up your misunderstanding

>>132920616
That shit's no joke. It's a huge problem near where I live where people think they're going to buy their normal heroin, but they get that shit and they die before they know they made a mistake.

>>132911323
>>132911629
First, read:
>>132911674

Now, listen up. Heroin takes cooking a chemical substance in a spoon until it liquefies, pulling it into a HYPODERMIC NEEDLE, shoving said needle into a vein that isn't blown out, yet, and then intentionally infecting your bloodstream with said man-made chemicals.

Whatever phases you to wake up one morning and say "I think I'll shoot some fucking HEROIN today" is enough for me to look at you with contempt. These people need help, yes, but drugs are never the answer. Everyone knows this, but they seek the quick release when they should be taking a fucking hike across the smokies or the rockies instead.

>>132921318
The point is to kill a few addicts and cause some overdoses so the junkies flock to your dealer.

>>132911783
(you) should OD and die already, junkie

>>132921552
No, you are generalising just because because it's convenient for your argument.

If somebody at home has a cut do you refuse them a plaster just because you are not a doctor?

Like most of the public forces, police officers should have basic first aid training.

There are plenty of reasons why you should do that :
>they deal with diverse situations
>often first on the scene... And if you know what the golden hour is, you'll agree with me action should be undertaken swiftly
>rural areas might have poor access to ambulances

This doesn't mean they should become paramedics, but some basic shitty training is really the minimum standard in 2017.

And that's not the 2017 argument. Here, 2017 = we all know by now training and drugs are readily available. Nowadays the issue shouldn't even be raised.

>>132913084

Drug addicts are not worth the assist. Appalachian micks aren't white. 95% of users during the Vietnam war kicked the habit upon their return but the Irish can't handle their drink or drugs.

Only certain groups of people have problems in the first place.

You can't hide behind the lefty lies about isolation, community and support being root causes or solutions. If any of that were true, you would have a massive drug use problem among friendless incel neets. You don't even need to know a dealer in the age of the dark web.

These addicts have friends and family most of the time. They aren't able to get the drugs without them because most of them aren't deep Web purchasers. Fact is that they don't care about themselves, so how in the hell do you expect them to care for anyone else, even if they get clean?

>>132911323
I hope all addicts die.

>>132911674
I am an ex addict and even I agree with you. Narcan costs money too.

>>132922095
Because you are a friendless faggot who never had social connection to score some drugs.

Pretty much all the people who hated drugs where holier then thou girls and people who never had anyone offer them a joint

>>132921520

>retard pig smacks femoral instead
>bleeds out
>police department sued into the stone age

oh NOW you trust pigs???

fuck off and die you disingenuous faggot

>>132921952

Yeah, you're right. That's basically the whole reason behind triage in an MCI. But literally 99% of the time, EMS doesn't have to choose between saving their grandmother or a junkie.

>>132911323
most of the overdoses aren't even from heroin these days, it's the fentanyl that's killing people. there's no way to know whether your stuff is pure anymore, same with ecstasy and other pills. so a lot of the time it's really the dealer or creator of the heroin that is to blame for the deaths, not the user

>Opioid overdose deaths in Massachusetts increased 150% from 2012 to 2015 (1). The proportion of opioid overdose deaths in the state involving fentanyl, a synthetic, short-acting opioid with 50–100 times the potency of morphine, increased from 32% during 2013–2014 to 74% in the first half of 2016 (1–3).

t.not a heroin user i just smoke weed

>>132912475
That is the new rule..... And I agree with you.

>>132922279
>you would have a massive drug use problem among friendless incel neets.
You need social connections to score drugs, and most people do drugs due to peer pressure.

>>132922279
>Most drug addicts have friends and family, but don't give two shits about themselves.

Spot on.

>>132912613
My father died from an overdose. I loved my father and I'm still okay with letting them die.

>>132922215
Yes, because real life is like a movie. If people are falling out from a certain dealer selling hot shots nobody is gonna want to buy that shit from him. Your biggest fear when using heroin is getting shit that is way too strong.

>>132911323
>I have to pay so addicts can be saved
>then I have to pay more when the hospital takes care of them
>then I have to pay for both again a week later

>>132922241
>If somebody at home has a cut do you refuse them a plaster just because you are not a doctor?

did they cut themselves? I ain't doing shit until paramedics arrive becuase I'M NOT A DOCTOR, NURSE OF FIRST AID TRAINED.

nigger wants to cut their own head off go for it.

>>132922325
So it's the normies dyeing from their own devices... Hmm.

I've done drugs. I've done psychedelics. They have helped me a lot but it just goes to show I do my research. I studied for a good month on the negatives that could come from taking shrooms or lsd, the only reason I did it was because it's non-addictive. Meanwhile pussies like you take heroine and become instantly addicted, chained to the drug.
>Inb4 I don't do heroine
Then why are you defending the dregs of society? You really can't get more degenerate than drug abusers.

>>132913637


Single mother is a broken home. Oh, but you say "Single mothers stronk!"

Oh, well. Yay, single mothers.

>>132922203
Not everyone shoots, you can snort, smoke, plug or even eat it

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>>132911323
tf just don't take it dumbasses. If you can't handle peer pressure you're not worthy of life

>>132911783
>buy/steal heroin INTENTIONALLY
>buy/steal syringe INTENTIONALLY
>find vein (this gonna be gud) (also INTENTIONALLY)
>inject INTENTIONALLY
>....
>ohhh
>hhhhhoerer vdsrgpj
>hhhrrrhrhr....hhhrrhrrhhr
>die
The only mistake was your father buying chinese condoms.

>>132912271
Your video doesn't say what it thinks it does.

Vietnam heroin users weren't isolated in a cage with nothing else to do and no social connections.

You're just taking a hippy approach that excuses bad people for being bad.

Those idiots got some themselves addicted to that shit in the first place. They deserve to rot in the hell they've made for themselves if they make piss poor decisions like this.

>>132922864
THIS

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>>132911783
Life is all about choices.
People know drugs are bad. They say it in school all the fucking time.
The question is why do it in the first place if everyone tells you its bad?

>>132922853
eventually you shoot. it's by far the most cost effective.

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>>132922340

Femoral Artery is deep within the tissue of the quadriceps, you fucking idiot lol. The needle doesn't penetrate that deep into the muscle (just enough to get past the fat and a bit into the muscle) and that's the whole point of an IM injection you mongoloid: to get quick easy access to highly vascular tissue.

If there was a legitimate concern for severely piercing the Femoral Artery in an IM injection, then the public wouldn't be allowed Epi-Pens or told to used other injection sites.

>>132922864

A FUCKING GYPSY SMARTER THAN YOU DRUGGIE CRACKAS. WORSE THAN GYPSY NIGGERS.

>>132922624

Heroin addicts put a price tag on everything. They are so fucking neurotic and virtue signal all the time.

I actually saw a guy who did it almost die. A person had to breath for them. It was bad.

>>132911323
Good. I fucking hate junkies.

>>132922864
Hahahaha !
Adevarat !

>>132922604
You didn't take his point. Take the silk road, for instance. Anyone could get whatever drugs they want, no social connections necessary.

Realistically, heavy addicts need enablers to survive. They are not socially isolated.

>>132922565
>it's really the dealer or creator of the heroin that is to blame for the deaths, not the user

>literally shoot questionable substance you got off the fucking street from some nigger into your bloodstream
>not your fault

Uhhhh, there should be like, laws and standards for these drug dealers sweetie, no one should have to question whether their illicit drugs are chemically pure or not. I mean it's 2017.

>>132922340

>police department sued into the stone age

Oh, forgot about this point: GOOD SAMARITAN LAWS DUMB-FUCK.

CASE AUTOMATICALLY GETS THROWN OUT OF COURT IF THERE IS EVIDENCE OF PROPER PROCEDURES AND GOOD FAITH BEING DONE.

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>>132912271
>They need community
Yes. A federal community.

>>132911783
W R O N G
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>>132911783
The dumb should fear the smart

>>132922752
the biggest fear is not being high as fast as possible otherwise these idiots would be testing their shit before ODing.

>>132923069
I guess if you're a hardcore addict

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>>132923106
Ye, ye , hit me up with that gypsy thing !!!
FeelsNiggerMan

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>>132911323
Heroin users should have the freedom to shoot up. Know the consequences of their actions, if they continue and don't seek help, that could be argued as suicide. They are using their right to the pursuit of happiness and forfeiting their right to life. Constitution still works!

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>We need to save people who willingly made a terrible decision from themselves

There are two instances where I might feel sympathy for heroin addicts.

1. Somebody was somehow tied up against their will and forced to shoot heroin.

2. One of my close relatives/friends became addicted (but I would lose a ton of respect for them for doing it in the first place)

A ton of heroin addicts out there, I feel comfortable assuming most, are just trend-following retards who decided it would be cool to shoot up and now they're facing the consequences for their actions.

>>132922797
Because they are my countrymen. They are sick people who need help. And no, i'm not excusing criminals who are addicted. Addiction should never be considered a legit excuse to commit crime

>>132923089

look at this stupid cracka that now totally trusts and loves cops but you know this same faggot ass calling them racist stupid pigs in every other thread.

how you be more nigger than a nigga? where yo momma?

>>132923237
it already is kind of like that. you can get crowdsourced reliable substances from the dark web. that is the only way to know you're getting the real thing. people will always do drugs, they should be legalized and regulated to prevent these deaths

>>132923282

police by definition aren't good samaratans you sad little druggie.

I'd like to see the crime and drug death statistics in 5 years.
You can bet your ass that there's going to be a steady decline in both, after a huge initial spike of deaths.
Both crime and drug deaths are going to slowly start moving downwards, until they reach a point where all of the older druggies are gone and the only ones sustaining the graph are the new guys.
It's a great way of cleaning up the system from the junkies who also need to steal shit and rob people to sustain their shitty habits.

>>132923237
Making heroin legal would be a great solution though. There would be way less overdoses and we could use the taxes from selling it for the incarceration of the users if they ever got out of line and started committing actual crimes.

>>132922796
This I'm not touching shit, even a paper cut, on some other person. Too many fucking degenerates running around with AIDS and shit, patch up your own injuries.

>>132923511

...Yeah, I like cops. They're just humans doing a needed job. They made my jobs easier helping me deal with 5150s.

>>132912613
wow no wonder she did it, you sound like a heartless bastard talking about her like that
fuck you nigger, care about your family a bit more

>>132922752
you sound like a junkie excuse-maker or a junkie yourself.

>shoot unknown strength dope into your body while talking about how scared you are it's strong.

kys junkie

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>>132920624
You are misinformed.

>>132923483
I understand your desire to help but these people are ultimately destroyed in the brain. They will never cease to not want the drugs. What we have here is not a drug issue but a priority issue, and issue of culture.

>>132923714

lol that nigger called you out, go back to plebbit for being such a two tongued coward

>>132923714

why you lyin lil bitch boy nigga?

>>132923591
>>132923650
Or you could just gas them all whenever you find them.

People will always eventually start murdering people for their own gain if there are no consequences to face for it, but people don't murder someone else every other weekend because they know that they will get assfucked in prison. Should we legalize murder too?

>>132911783
Actually, they should. The heroin epidemic is a self-solving problem.

>>132923834
>>132923483
People use drugs as a form of escapism from their meaningless lives. It's why many who were once addicted find the gospel and assimilate the church as their new meaning, as part of their new identity. The culture is dead, the identity of nations is dead. We fix that and only the utter degenerates who know exactly what they're doing will be the only ones to do it. It's not like weed where it has zero ill effects. Heroine is all bad, all around.

>>132923987

it WOULD BE if this nation wasn't filled with limp wristed Disney white boys.

this shit wouldn't be happening if you purged the lilly faggots first.

>>132923830
I work in a pharmacy nigger. I have read the state guidelines on dispensing Narcan to both police and patients. The fucking insert warns against triggering withdrawal, you are a moron.

>>132923747
I used to use but I only shot up a couple times because I'm not a needle guy. I was worried when I would smoke or snort H when I stayed in Thailand because he t was China white and therefore super pure.

You guys don't live in heroin capitals. It is fucked, heroine addicts (my friends as well) will double up just because they know the narcan will bail them out. 2 Down and more to go for then

>>132923967
This is quite the low quality strawman you got there.

>>132924415

let that strawman die of an OD as well then

>>132923733
>slavic logic
Austria did nothing wrong

>>132924415
>no argument