Do people here actually believe the holocaust did not happen?

Has it been an hour since the last holocaust debate thread already?

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>>132907704

>>132907704
>massive amounts of evidence?
What evidence

da joos

>>132907704
Look up some David irving lectures

>>132907704
From what I gather, it happened but not quite like they want people to imagine it.
Most camps were not extermination camps. Most prisoners died of sickness or starvation. Most of the deaths happened on Soviet territory (possibly as they retook it). The war crimes of the Soviets were buried while the war crimes of the Nazis were exaggerated. At the time, the allies were still hoping they might get along with the Soviets. And they needed to demonize the Nazis more as they were going to assimilate them. There was a "denazification" process they had to justify to the people (their people in particular). It's called "atrocity propaganda" and it's pretty much always done.
None of this matters much to me though. But it's interesting. It's generally foolish to think of wars in terms of "good guys" and "bad guys".

>>132907704
>Do people here actually believe the holocaust did not happen?
Yes.

>If you believe so, on what grounds can you dismiss massive amounts of evidence?
1. There is no evidence that proves the Holocaust happened.

2. This massive amount of evidence that proves the Holocaust did not happen. http://pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ

>>132909069
>Kekistani
>Actually believes the Holocaust happened
Why am I not surprised?

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>>132907704
>Evidence
do you mean the (((evidence))) that it did happen and the ever changing number or the evidence that it didn't happen?
Let's say Hitler was burning jews for all 6 years of ww2 (39-45) and 6 million were killed. That gives us a scant 52,560 hours for the killing of 6 million jews or about 114 per hour nonstop.
>>132908256
Assume all 7 (((death camps))) are working perfectly, that gives us 16 jews killed per hours in a nonstop cycle. But these camps did not operate all 6 years of the war.
>cremation takes 1 to 5 hours in the modern setting [1]
But somehow Hitler managed to get that down to 3 minutes and 45 seconds.
>But not all jews were burned
The zyklon B reports are laughable to anybody who understands how the gas works.
>But firing squads
Ok so in the modern best setting we have 1 jew every hour being burned that leaves us 15 other jews per hour we need killed or 1 being shot every 4 minutes for 6 years straight. Do these numbers sound ridiculous yet?
https://www.iccfa.com/cremation/support/how-long-does-cremation-take

>>132907704
>massive amounts of evidence?
Citation needed.

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>>132910022

>>132910022
But muh History teacher told me it happened.

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>>132910022

op btfo

>>132907704
Don't worry, guys. Op is just slow.

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>>132909847

if the holocaust didn't happen then what did Hitler actually accomplish other than getting a bunch of white guys to kill each other, decimating generations of human potential?

>>132911550
>Hitler wanted war and wanted to take over the world!
Adolf Hitler 1933: We Want Nothing But Peace!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CF-rNvYs70Q

Adolf Hitler: Man of Peace?
http://tomatobubble.com/id570.html
http://archive.is/pwXRM

Adolf Hitler: Response to Churchill's Push for War
https://youtube.com/watch?v=POh-pwEPesA

Adolf Hitler's Struggle for Peace
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GArKAjazAGA

Adolf Hitler Wanted Peace and an Alliance with England
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MHT-3dpV-so

Hitler's Appeal for Peace and Call to Reason to Prevent World War II in 1939
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HAV1_bol2BM

What the World Rejected: Hitler's Peace Offers 1933-1939
https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html
http://archive.is/xYqRs

>>132907823
Fpbp

>>132911550
>The allies didn't want war! they only wanted peace!
How World War II Came About
http://heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html
http://archive.is/eh2S1

The Jewish Hand in the World Wars
https://inconvenienthistory.com/5/2/3209
archive.is/B7hr3
https://inconvenienthistory.com/6/2/3294
http://archive.is/91wv3

The Jews Declared War - Against Germany!
http://goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.htm
http://archive.is/X2a4S

Judea Declares War on Germany
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xe6npWo7Wug

Important Quotations for a Better Understanding of World War II
http://balder.org/judea/Important-Quotations-For-A-Better-Understanding-Of-WWII.php
http://archive.is/yhuQx

The Myth of German Culpability
http://rense.com/general83/dett.htm
http://archive.is/YcqlB

President Roosevelt's Campaign to Incite War in Europe: The Secret Polish Documents - Mark Weber
http://ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
http://archive.is/A5hEw
http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/v4%232.pdf

Roosevelt's Campaign to Incite War in Europe
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-1-september-1st-2012
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-2-september-8th-2012
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-3-september-22nd-2012
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-4-september-29th-2012

Stalin's Secret War Plans
http://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
http://archive.is/Q6g5X

There Was No Need for World War II
http://rense.com/general63/ride.htm
http://archive.is/zb8QP

The Zionist Jewish Role in Causing World War II
http://rense.com/general45/zzo.htm
http://archive.is/7Klke

>>132907704

The Holocaust did NOT happen.

The Jews are still alive, and got their ethnostate that the Zionists and NAZIs collaborated to build:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

>>132908256
And what is the source of this infografik?

>>132911891
>this huge army I've mobilized is an instrument of peace guys

Honestly!
((They)) told us too many times.
Since i started going to school, we got brainwashed with this bullshit. aka we need to remember that it will never happen again and crap like this.
Since day 1 we hear this. Its like, you bad people are responsible, now you need to pay until end of the days.
Its 3 Generations ago, Shlomo, get over it!

All you doing now is, remembering everybody, what we need to do AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>132912399
>>this huge army I've mobilized is an instrument of self defense guys
FTFY

You sound like a gungrabber that claims the only reason a person wants a firearm is to shoot a poor, innocent african american gentleman that dinnt du nuffings.

>>132907704
Russia killed 30 million via brutal starvation. Then they go and accuse their greatest military rival of the same thing, providing ample details and pictures of starving people. One must wonder if they used the evidence and experience of their crime against humanity to frame the nazis for a war crime.

At the very least, considering the Holodomor and similar events, nothing Russia says about "what they found" can be considered evidence for the holocaust. So you're left with inconsistent and confused testimonials from jews themselves, the few typhoid victims the Allies found, and not much else.

Did the germans round up jews and put them in camps? They sure did, but unlike the USA and its japanese citizens, germany actually had good grounds to round up the jews as they had attempted a bloody communist revolution in germany in 1919 that left 50,000 people dead. It deserves a second look, at the very least. Also, the world needs to remember that communism killed at least 70 million innocent civilians. Nazi Germany killed 400,000 jews that were probably collaborators with the butchers of Russia.

>>132909847
None of that is massive evidence, just some scammers, and not everyone was thrown in an oven

>>132911550
There are reports of trains full of jewish people just reached Austria or Switzerland. But the local police give them over to the nazis, which moved them then to the camps.

Why feed and care about people you don't like? Why not just let them pass, go away? During war times resources are critical. Wouldn't it make MUCH more sense to let them all run away? Why even building up 20 or 30 camps (besides for slave working)? Pogroms could be quite "cheap", just point them to the next border. But NONE of the documentation shows that. To the contrary, the most despicable humans where int he SS higher ranks and send to the camps. And when the allied came, they destroyed most of the horrendous camps. There was surely nothing of importance or secret there, just slave labor camps. No need to use heavy duty explosives.

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>>132908317
lmao right?

If anything, this:
>>132912202

None of it makes sense. It doesn't make sense that in the same year that Hitler speaks to Mannerheim about Soviet military industry being so massive, that they would suddenly begin killing a labor pool of 6 million. It didn't make sense that Yehuda Bauer made up the 5 million goyim that died with Wiesenthal just so the goys would get on board- and it's still being taught. Why is it the discussion of why the Germans were kicking them out in the first place never takes place- it's just hand waved and assumed that the Germans hated their noses or whatever excuse?

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>>132912742
Somebody had to stop the FAR worse atrocities of communism- and it wasn't going to be the western (((bankers))) who put them into power.

Trivia fact - the holocaust was actually reviewed by British courts in 2000 and judged to be real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_(2016_film)