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>Conversions gradually transforming Orthodox Christianity

>More than 70 percent of the roughly 75,000 Antiochian Orthodox Christians in the United States are converts. The Orthodox Church in America, with roots in Moscow and about 85,000 adherents, reports a 50 percent figure. In Greek Orthodox Christianity, by far the largest branch in the United States with almost 480,000 members, it's about 25 percent.

>"We have these ethnic titles in our names, but they refer to where our hierarchies reside," Gilbert says. "None of these [jurisdictions] believes the church is for Greeks or Russians or Serbs. It's a church for humans."

>The strength of Orthodox Christianity— also known as Eastern Christianity, Eastern Orthodoxy or Greek Orthodoxy — stems from the conviction that its traditions are the same as those practiced by Jesus' original followers, the 12 apostles, and the theologians who codified those practices in their writings over the first few centuries after his death.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-non-greek-greek-orthodox-priest-20170624-story.html
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"The Pope and Mohammed serve the fore-representation of the Antichrist."
-Saint Ignatius Brianchaninov

If you can get "The Arena" by this guy, I highly recommend it. It's highly readable and will show you how radically different Orthodox spirituality is from Catholic or Protestant. It's for monastics, but highly recommended for non-monastics as well in our Church.

Orthodox hymns in English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ybJx1osyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoyZtkrU0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noetoc2W4Pc
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>>132902226
Golly. I've been hearing more and more talk of conversion to Orthodoxy, but it's kind of neat to see that followed up with some figures.
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>>132903120
>Utah Mormons and Protestants are rediscovering a reverence for God by converting to Orthodoxy.

>That certainly is the case for Sts. Peter and Paul Orthodox Christian Church in downtown Salt Lake City. The Rev. Justin Havens says the church, located in a former Jewish synagogue at 355 S. 300 East, had fewer than 100 worshippers when he became its priest nine years ago.

>"We have almost tripled in size since then," Havens says. "I would say 60 percent or more of our parish is made up of converts. About half of those are former LDS [Mormons], and the rest are former Protestants and evangelicals, along with a few former Catholics and Episcopalians."
http://www.sltrib.com/home/5243596-155/utah-mormons-protestants-finding-new-spiritual

>"At first, I didn't understand a thing. But I kept studying it; I had always wanted to know the truth," she says. "I realized the Orthodox Church had been around for 2,000 years, had carefully guarded their theology and had not allowed popular beliefs to change them."
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Orthodox and Catholic compared https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHZtbnaXuGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcOv4zPoVo

“This Church, like a chaste virgin, has alone been preserved from apostolic times in its original, immaculate purity; this Church, which with its profound dogmas and small external rituals has, as it were, been brought down from the heavens to the Russian people, is alone able to undo all the knots of doubt and answer all our questions…And yet we do not know about this Church! We have not yet brought this Church, which was created so that we might live, into our lives! Only one kind of propaganda is possible for us—our own lives. We must defend our Church with our lives, for she is life; and we must proclaim her truth by the fragrance of our souls.”
-Gogol
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> Conversions gradually transforming Greek Catholicism

This is exactly why I stick with Latin Catholicism. The Greeks were right but I don't want to be rushing in and fucking around with the Church.
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>>132902226
BUMP
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>>132902226
HIS Church
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From the Jewish-Orthodox Christian dialogue last year

>Deciding to finally address the “elephant in the room” in his closing remarks, the head of the Jewish delegation, Rabbi David Rosen, called for the Orthodox Christian leaders to issue a statement on the status of the Jewish people.

>“A doctrinal repudiation that the Jewish people had been rejected by God could have enormous consequences,” said Rosen, the international director of interreligious affairs at the American Jewish Committee.

>Rosen’s request was met with silence, raised eyebrows and the occasional shake of the head by the Christian delegates.

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/324654/after-4-decades-jewish-dialogue-with-orthodox-christians-still-shaky/
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>>132906932
HA HA HA HA HA that's awesome.

I don't mind in my church if we pray for Jews once in a while in the hopes they might come around, but the rest of the bowing and scraping to them is really lame.
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>>132906932
>The New York-based Anti-Defamation League on Thursday urged the world's Orthodox Christian leaders to support a Christian proposal to excise ancient anti-Semitic passages from their liturgy.

>Unlike the Catholic and Protestant Churches, the Orthodox Church has never removed anti-Semitic passages from its liturgy, which still refers to Jews as Christ killers, said Dr. Dmitry Radyshevsky, director of the Jerusalem Summit, a conservative Israeli think tank. He noted that the anti-Semitic passages were most conspicuous during Easter services, and included such statements as "the Jewish tribe which condemned you to crucifixion, repay them Oh Lord," - which is repeated half a dozen times during the liturgy - "Christ has risen but the Jewish seed has perished" as well as references to Jews as "God-killers."

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/ADL-Excise-anti-Semitic-liturgy-from-Orthodox-Church

This is Hilarion's (the bishop in charge of Orthodox-Catholic dialogue) response to that

>Russian Orthodox theologian and bishop Hilarion (Alfeyev) of Vienna's lecture on "Theological Education in the 21st Century"

>Even more inadmissible, from my point of view, is the correction of liturgical texts in line with contemporary norms. Relatively recently the Roman Catholic Church decided to remove the so-called 'antisemitic' texts from the service of Holy Friday.
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2008/11/orthodox-bishop-comments-on-recent.html
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>Jewish Radicals Disrupt Greek Orthodox Pentecost Prayer in Jerusalem, Calling Worshipers 'Evil'

>At the height of the ceremony, a small group from the Greek Orthodox, led by the bishop, came down the stairs and entered the Tomb of King David, escorted by the police. The Jewish protestors grew more frenzied. "The Jewish people lives forever!" King David lives forever!" one screamed. "May the name of your so-called God be blotted out forever," cursed another. "Nazi," someone screamed at the police.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.726345


Listen from 39 min for the Orthodox explain the truth about how Jews feel
http://orthodoxbiblestudy.info/st-john-chrysostom-anti-semite/
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>>132906932
>we hate Christ but you can't hate us goy!!
>we have the father but not the son :V)μh
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