Germany-Thread

the only thing that can help germany get back on track is a good glassing.

Is it true that flying your flag off your porch or displaying one at your house is frowned upon?

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>>132864389

Fuck off cuck. Germany is the best nation in the world. You're probably an Amerishart on vacation in Berlin. Go home Ami.

>DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES

You need to glass all the leftists to survive. Glass them all.

violent revolution and extermination of all non-whites here.

I think it's samer to say Canada and Sweden are on the same as Germany you guys have been fucked up for longer.

>>132864560
It wasn't common to do so outside of sporting events, but after the World cup 2006, it became a common sight, even outside of sporting events

>>132864389
Fascists by guns on the black market, rally behind a genius autist who is good at speaking and evoking emotion, then shooting every single goddamn member of antifa, staging a coup, taking over the government and then teaming with the United States, the UK and Poland to help secure fascist power.

Germans need to be taught from the childhood that WW2 and Holochaust is not germans' guilt, but guilt of some abstract faschists-imperialists. Like they did in DDR.

>>132864560
not really, more like people fear that they come off as nationalistic. Many would like to use the flag more often.

>>132864781
Found the newfag
The Nazis were the good guys, and the German children should be taught as such, oh and the holocaust was nobody's fault, it was typhus's fault, and the Russian's fault for stopping supply lines to the camps that caused starvation.

>>132864389
I don't think /pol/ hates Germany. They hate what its becoming and they have anger towards the attitudes of a lot of German voters. A lot of us think fuck you, WW2 is long over and white people are in it together now, and you seem to be letting the team down. I definitely do not think fuck German people, I think fuck the complacency your country has towards white people becoming extinct in the next 100 years. Trying to change peoples ideas and fight against a media and political establishment isn't easy. Hell, write out flyers stating your opinion and backing it up with statistics, and go round dropping them into letterboxes. No one can take that away from you.

>>132864989
Aber man kann schon sagen, dass in den letzten 10 Jahren die Anzahl der Deutschlandfahnen deutlich zugenommen hat.

Ich erinnere mich noch, wie ich einer Klasse von Amis 2009 erzählt habe, dass das eigentlich nicht normal ist. Mittlerweile sieht man deutlich häufiger solche Flaggen vor Häusern

>>132865003
It's impossible to do this now, and will be impossible in foreseable future, so shelf your wet fantasies for a while. What I said is much more realistic.

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>>132864989
What's wrong with being a nationalist, and how are nationalists interpreted over there in Germany?

inb4: Yobbish, working class idiots.

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>>132864389

Reasons to hate Germany.

1. WW2
2. Angela Merkel
3. Mass Immigration
4. Islamization of Europe due to Merkel and the EU
5. Germany = the European Union

>>132865169
hier bei mir ned wirklich, aber hier hängen auch mehr Bayern flaggen rum und das schon seit langem. Mir kommts eher so vor wie als wenn die Leut nach der WM vergessen haben die Flaggen wieder einzupacken.

>>132864389
Well, what you personally can do is FUCKING VOTE AFD THIS SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!!!

>>132865228
It's just going to make more antifa members, because they will see anyone who is right wing or nationalistic as a Nazi, like many members of antifa do now.

>>132864389
>Implying germany was ever on track

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Join the Identitarians, as they're the only group that has a chance at not getting banned, and vote AfD.

As for a full fix, either a major paradigm shift needs to take place or you'll have to be liberated.

>>132865341
Ich komme aus einer Großstadt, also natürlich einer liberalen Hochburg. Hier hat das, gerade in den Vororten massiv zugenommen und auch nach der Flüchtlingskrise. Das war teilweise Jahre nach oder vor der WM, da würde ich sagen, dass war gewollt.

>>132864389
Germany has been fucking over Europe for 1500 years. What makes you think they will change now.

It's like expecting Islam to become moderate over night

>>132864389
seems like a potential quality thread
bump

>>132865256
interpreted as nazis by the numerous leftist groups and parties. they go into an fit everytime the word nationalistic comes up.

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>>132864565
How many layers of denial are you on?

>>132865383
While you as a nation live with imprinted guilt it does not matter wheter there will be more antifa or less, you'll continue to suck.
Without guilt you'll have Stazi which bugged everyone, with guilt your leader gets bugged by foreign intelligence and people just put up with it because they believe that they deserve it.

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>>132864389
>I know /pol/ really hates Germany and it's not hard to see why.
>I know /pol/ really hates Germany
>I know


kikes stull butthurt at germans
projecting this hard

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Around 50 policemen with Riotgrear.

>>132864389
Germany is back on track fighting for what is right.

Like back in days with Luther, with Marx and Engels.

The US think they are some hot shit, can do what they want, have the monopoly. Wrong.

We are the balance. We will start the Union around the world and counter the US menace, if you think Americans will drain and suck dry other country's for there own wealth your wrong. This ends now.

>>132865578
You mean like any major super power did? It's not like this is just a German thing.

>>132865728
I don't like materialistic kike puppet germans either.

The only way to fix germany is another war.

>>132864774
>team up with the US
You don't think they'll fuck us over again?

The German people who aren't communists have my sympathies in all honesty. If some thing like what is happening in Hamburg was going on in my city I'd be nailing every thing in my house down and rechecking survival gear. Although if muslims and commies were rioting in my area it's so conservative death squads would probably start forming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOZ91dIXsE

>>132865578
you're lucky the US protected you, otherwise you'd all be working in a gulag now
>>132865521
komm auch aus ner großstadt :^)

>>132864389
>It's virtually on the same level as Sweden and Canada.
How is that a bad thing??

>>132864389
There once was this guy who lead an offensive against degeneracy in your country. Banksters and communists hated him. Name escapes me at the moment, but you should emulated him.

>>132865920
The most realistic war would be one against Turkey.
And Germany either won't participate against a war with Turkey for the same reasons, the Netherlands probably wouldn't:
You would have a lot of cities turn into civil war areas. Just look at how well-organized Turks went onto the streets after the overthrow last year. If German/the Netherlands were to take a stand, these Turks would go apeshit and it would be worse than Hamburg right now.

Although, if they would stand against Turkey, I bet you, these events would do exactly what youre saying, turn around the German public
>>132866095
Okay, einer nicht-bayrischen Großstadt

>>132865512
Nazi architecture was so fucking good, honestly every building should be built following this style.

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>>132864389

Spaniard in Germany.

You are too nice.

You need to get rough with foreigners but also with your nationals, too.

Grenzen dicht machen, mehr Deutsche als Ausländer produzieren.

>>132865922
If we have Poland, Hungary, the UK and other red pilled nations on our side they wont have much of a choice but to not fuck us over., of course, Trump is not going to be in office forever, but let's just hope that the pendulum doesn't swing back the other way, or that if it does it will be only slightly to the left of Trump.

>>132864389

Start off by removing people like
>>132866131

I leave the means of removal up to you

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>>132866468
Good luck lmao there are literally millions of us

>>132866468
Does anyone have a delousing agent and some showers?

>>132866332
Interestingly, all major parties have cuts for families in their program. If you get children, you're supposed to get better daycare, a welcome-bonus etc.

Doing that only for Germans is something only the controlled-Nazi Party does and it would get slammed by the highest court in the country

>>132864389
>on the same level
No it isn't. You don't see mass riots of whites destroying their own country like niggers do literally ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. Sweden included because only the muzzies do it there and only in the no go zones.


No. Germany after this bullshit is officially known to be 100% confirmed the worst country in the world. You people are literally worse than south fucking sudan at this point and you are doing shit nobody else fucking does.

Two god damn world wars. Two. Decades of socialist cancer. And now this.

Our men and women died so your nation could continue to fucking exist. We should have fucking nuked you or handed you over to the Russians. This is a fucking disgrace.

All you are teaching Americans right now is that:
1. You shouldnt belong in nato
2. We should not continue to fund anything germany does in any capacity.
3. You are the enemy of this nation
4. You should be destroyed.

Your actions have sealed the fate of the EU. Literally nobody else has to leave its going to collapse purely under the weight of the cancerous shit germany does under merkel.


Fuck you your country will have the destiny of becoming a radioactive wasteland. Even the norks are not this fucking bad. We should be declaring war on you soon not the fucking norks.

>>132866544
You Krauts should know better than anyone there are ways of removing millions of people

1 - Kick Merkel and her neophytes out of office.
2 - Stop all refugee resettlement from Africa & Middle East
3 - Remove all refugees and send them back, deport them all peaceful or not.
4 - Stop teaching your kids to be ashamed of their WW2 history. You don't see the Japs doing this, do you?
5 - Red Pill your kids by teaching them that liberalism is a failure

Then you might be able to be saved as a people. However since none of this is going to happen you had better get used to eating Halal, speaking Arabic, wiping your ass with your bare hand, and learning Islam.

You guys are fucked.

>>132866679
Sorry let me clarify TENS of millions. We are the majority in this country by a wide margin.

>>132864389
>What can be done, to get Germany back on track.

1. Stop making these threads

2. Start being proud of Germany instead of caring about what a few scum non-white Brits and Burgers think about us.

3. Don't badmouth Germany as you do right now. Not everything is bad here, there is actually a lot of stuff that works.

4. Start voting the correct way and have intelligent discussions with others to tilt them towards German nationalism.

5. Continue living your life, work hard, marry, have kids. Make Germany a better place.

P.S. inb4 cucked German, I don't care about what people on /pol/ believe, I stand behind my German fatherland. I have a German flag hanging out my window and am proud of it.

>>132864389
legalize homeschooling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GqiAhqnMmE

>>132866679
>You Krauts

You're talking to a goddamn Turkshit chap.

>>132866852
Haha yeah you try and deal with the fact that I'm a race traitor and so is my sister however you want. Denial certainly seems the easiest option.

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>>132866544
I don't need luck faggot I have the biggest navy in the world and 7 thousand nuclear weapons.

And the other big guy in the region has 8 thousand nuclear weapons and the second biggest navy in the world and he hates your fucking guts.

Not to mention if we ever sanctioned you economically your shit would fall the fuck out overnight we control the IMF.

You people are delusional and doomed as fuck.

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>>132864389
>getting Germany back on track
Yeah, good luck with that, Sören.

>>132866298
the thing is the states in germany are very independent. In southern german cities we'd never see the kind of things we're seeing in hamburg. the police there are way stricter. would've beaten the shit out of the militants before they can rise up. but especially the city states in the north are cancerous leftist shitholes.

>>132866648
>Our men and women died so your nation could continue to fucking exist
Nah, that's just plain wrong.

>>132866926
cool thats fine have fun watching your country turn into a 3rd world.

>>132866648
cringed hard when reading this

>>132864389
Import more inmigrant labor, but take off the requirement that they learn German

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>>132864565
THE HATE TOWARDS GERMANY IS COMING FROM THOSE WHO WOULD DESTROY AMALEKITES

KEKTIAN (((ANGLOS))) KEEP FALLING FOR IT

>>132865582
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>>132866934
YOU own it? How delusional are you people, god damn.
Why would America ever attack us? Trump might be in power now, but the US and Europe share the same core values and after Trump we will reaffirm those values dont you worry.

>>132865922
They do, as US interest is all they care about. look at the situation right now.

They swarmed the EU with refugees to draw us in a war in middle east so they have the oil and gas monopoly over us.

They fuck around in our sphere of influence in east Europe and try as hard as possible to make north and south stream impossible.

They fuck over Ukraine and blame Soros and EU for there failure because they could not get rid of Russians.

America is not the EU´s frend and its not Germanys friend.

They drain our country's out of intelligent and wealth people.

They use us as meat shields so in a war they dont have to fight on home soil but destroy our homes and our city's.


All that so some nigger can buy a gallon of gas for a dollar and food for 5 cents.
America is the true enemy of free man.
This has to end its about time EU politicians make stop to that shit and drop the petrol dollar and NATO.

If the idiotic niggers think they can deal with the world on there own let them try. I wont work my ass of for some american niggers so they have it good. let them all die.

>>132866793
>1. Stop making these threads
Nationalist discourse isn't a bad thing but I'll give you that /pol/ isn't the most productive place.

>2. Start being proud of Germany instead of caring about what a few scum non-white Brits and Burgers think about us.
I can agree for the most part. The brit/pol/ autists aren't someone to listen to in any case.

>3. Don't badmouth Germany as you do right now. Not everything is bad here, there is actually a lot of stuff that works.
The German government is a complete sham thats endangering your existence, it needs to go yesterday.

>4. Start voting the correct way and have intelligent discussions with others to tilt them towards German nationalism.

Your government will never let you vote in an anti-globalist or anti-racemixing party. You have to organize active resistance (violent if necessary) and start forging alliances with other European nationalists. You'll need all the allies you can get.

>5. Continue living your life, work hard, marry, have kids. Make Germany a better place.

Marry, have kids, but be prepared to fight like hell to make sure there is a Germany for them to live in.

I truly hope your nation can survive the current crisis.

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>>132866934
>I have the biggest navy in the world
>if we ever sanctioned you

larping this hard

>>132866793
>1. Stop making these threads
m8, this is my first thread with this topic

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>>132866544

Oh millions?

hmm.

Do everything that the honeypots tell you but don't go near them.

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>>132864389

Get rid of the external control. Make Europe great again.

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>>132867489
Try it friend :) Worked out great last time

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>>132867544
yeah but this time the other nations are with us.

>>132864389
Most of people in my country loves yours.
Hardworking and kind people.
You probably just need to start looking for your selves instead of taking care if you disturb someone else.
Hope you do fine. Europe needs you.

>>132867741
Who? Like actually name one western country that would actually gain something by attacking us.

>>132867801
>>132867515
>This much Spanish love
Gracias, mis hombres. Espero, que estais correcto

>>132867741
France.
Hahahaha. Ok go ahead and take France on your team.

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>>132864389
>What can be done
Nothing. German culture was permanently obliterated by reeducation psyops warfare in the aftermath of WW2. It's completely dead. Modern "German" identity revolves solely around historical guilt, democracy, worship of WW2's victors, and national self-hatred. The old Germany is forgotten, and nothing in the world will ever reanimate that corpse.

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>>132867544

It really did. Totally worth another go. Why keep score if you don't try and beat your record?

>>132867986
M8, you posted your first post as an American. No need to hide behind a Nazi flag

>>132867986
Go for it. Legitimately go to Berlin and take over the Reichstag.
Dont be a chicken now you want to rid Beautiful Germany of the parasites right?

>>132865834
You bought the CNN narrative "Merkel is the leader of the free world now". You stupid fuck

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>>132867824

oh Idk, real Germans perhaps?

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>>132864389
>Second Hitler
this time take care of him you faggots

>Adolf was right the first time
the Jews were to blame for Germany failing and it's correct again

basically you just need to return to being fascists and you're good. that was your golden age, historically speaking.


>>132867266
>US and Europe share the same core values
pic related

>>132867544

Would be nice if you stopped fighting against whites and started fighting against people who want to destroy us instead sometime.

>>132867824
by with us I mean they won't bother us when we go on a short but thorough pest control trip.

>>132867388
desu he's right about the first part though

but who am i to doubt a pirate

>>132864565
True. You are the best worker bees a corporate overlord could ask for.
Very efficient and entirely given to cuckoldry.

>>132868177
You are in for a surprise if you ever come to actually visit us. You'd probably be able to count the number of "real germans" on one hand
>>132868244
Like fascists?

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>>132864389

You had your chance, Germany.

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>>132868076

>Hide behind a Nazi flag

What? It's expression of opinion my dude.

Sorry to say; the fact that you had the Nazis is why you'll perish. Us Swedes are self-loathing, but yours is on a different level. When our country truly burns there will be riots, but yours will fall into Sharia silently.

To be fair Canada is actually top tier, No School Lunch program, attractive leader, gets the best slice of immigrants " asians " instead of table scraps like muslims, groid and mexicans.

First for radical centrism and rational, non-violent discussion between people of opposing views.

>>132868279
it's about "i" and "we", as if this neet loser has anything to say

>>132868082

I wish it were that easy. Instead I will spread ideas and information.

>>132868519
Seems you are really effective at it too.

>>132868566

Well you do keep coming back for more.

But I must ask are you truly German? or just an opportunist in the nation?

>>132868825
Nah I am truly 100% german. My grandparents and their parents to the best of my knowledge where german.

Also I keep coming back for the laughs. Its one major LARP like a furry chat here.
You have your nazis, ancaps, libertarian and people that mix it all together like you have dragonkin and all that other bullshit in furry chatrooms.

Then you LARP about how you'd eradicate the Jews and who actually is responsible for the migrant crisis all the while bashing countries and people you see as weak for not instigating complete revolution on their own.

The irony of hating the youtube/tumblr feminist who doesnt do anything of value while people here follow youtube/twitter alt righters is just perfect.

Now I'm not accusing you of any of that instead of LARPing abit too much about what effects your "information spreading" actually has, but if you think I'd come to /pol/ to educate myself you are dead wrong my friend.

>>132864565
>DEUTSCHLAND DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES

How depressed are you, that Deutschland Uber Alles is borderline illegal nowadays?

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied
>Only 3rd stanza is currently Anthem
>You will be shunned as a NAZI if you sing the 1st

I would feel sorry for you, but you deserve all this.

>>132864389
Leave job, sit on welfare. Find drinking friends and crush refugees with them.

>>132868289

Clearly you haven't learned anything.

>>132869251

So do you actually hate your fellow Germans?

or do you hate the government that does not lead with the people's best interest in mind? That does not protect it's values and culture?

They only see one things, dollar signs and profit margins. But there are much more important things to be protected. Don't you agree?

If you have not figured it out yet. The jew meme is anecdotal and represents some force within the world which does not have your best interest in mind. People need labels and concepts to focus their contempt upon. It does seem however that the jew is at least some part of this destructive force.

Surely you realize this and I hope you do see that the powers that be work against you and what your culture has produced over 100s of years.

>>132868289
>His city is burning due to far left activists / globalist shills (or both)
>F-Fascists are the problem

Dumber than rocks
>>132869689
To be expected from a smug know-it-all German who writes
>but if you think I'd come to /pol/ to educate myself you are dead wrong my friend.

>>132864565
How can all of that even compete with Japan who discoverd Hentai, Germania inferior.

>>132864389
German unification was a mistake.

>>132864781
More like the Jews had it coming after what they did to Russia and other countries around the world.

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>>132869520
>t. descendant of backstabbers
we should have let the soviets rape you.

>>132864389
We have to make the great cut. Expell all people that are not compatible with a stable, rich and free German society.

A new age of migration has begun and it's our task to shape it.

Just kick them out. Foreigners, leftists - because in the future, we're likely to become hundreds of years old. Foreigners and socialists would become a life-threating burden to society.

>>132869883
No I do not hate the germans nor do I hate the government. Yes I have quite a few criticisms of it but I do not hate it.

But I do not believe that there is a force in the world with a "us vs them" mentality that actively seeks destruction save for radicalists who are a minority.

Furthermore I do not see our culture at risk at all. Not from immigration not from some secret powerful cabal operating in the shadows.

>>132864389

Your national problem is one of your preferred national philosophy.

Kantian thinking is what is fucking your nation over.

Ask yourself why Germans beat themselves up over a failed genocide, yet Brits don't give a shit about the successful genocide in Tasmania, nor do Brits give a shit about all the other stuff we have done?

The answer is our national philosophy. The British state, and the national psyche reflects the philosophy of John Locke. It ain't in our interests to beat ourselves up over what our ancestors did.

Sure we have the same kind of 'cultural Marxist' trash going about trying to get us to put the interests of others ahead of our own, but we also have John Locke to fall back on.

There are others. Adam Smith. Even Karl Marx. Marxism makes no fucking sense at all unless you understand John Locke. Marxism is just an economics version of Locke - you calculate your economic interests and act on them, where Locke just talks about calculating your interests without being obsessed by money because he wasn't a Jew.

So Germans, just let all the guilt go. It's time to move on. Time to act more like the British.

>>132870200
>Implying Germany helped us during Winter Wars.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH most clueless comment I've ever read. German education, everybody.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_support_of_Finland_in_the_Winter_War
>inb4 I don't accept wikipedia

Next time you won't be burning my village down, ''helpful Kraut''. I will.

>>132865685
is that hamburg

>>132870472

If you have criticisms then why don't you make demands. Pacifist inaction means your ideas are lost. While radicals and anarchists riot and steal. While capitalists plot ways to make more profit at your expense. and religions that worship conquest move in and demand liberties they have to right to. Imagine Germany as it's flag and all these people are grasping it and pulling it in their direction. Eventually it will rip in two. So do you not have a grasp on this flag too? Why aren't you pulling?

All of this is chipping away slowly at what you hold valuable. It seems slow now but if you don't maintain it, if you don't stand up and have an opinion. no matter how unpopular. then it will all soon tumble in one big go.

>>132870582

> Brits don't give a shit about..

Dude, have you seen your current politics?

>>132870954
It was

>>132864389
>Do you see any changes, that could be channeled to get the developments back into better tracks?
I don't think your jewish and communist leaders would let you do that?

>>132864389
Bring back Prussia and remove all of the women from your clergy as the Latvians did recently, O.P.

http://theaquilareport.com/latvian-lutherans-end-ordination-of-women-priests/

>>132870582

There is some truth to this but this only applies to people who are receptive to philosophical thought.

The social pressure in Anglo countries is as strong or even stronger as in Germany but expressed differently. Since common law is fucking brutal. Universities having their own "rape courts" and being able to ban you from campus for being racist is not possible in Germany for example.

>>132871059
I march in demonstrations peacefully if there are some organised that I agree with, and I go vote everytime there is an election. Other than that there is very little I can do.
But again I dont think that the "idea of Germany" is under any direct threat. Also I grew up amongst muslims in a foreign country, and back in Germany I had a lot of contacts with them as well. And I can attest that most of them dont think of conquest and military action but instead want to live like everyone else a quiet comfy life with their partner and maybe kids.

>>132871059
Anon you don't get it, it's like ''moderate islam''. They don't say anything because they support what's happening, even if they're not the ones burning cars. Why do you think they support Islam?

>>132871403
>Also I grew up amongst muslims in a foreign country
HAHAHAHA I called it so hard.>>132871516

Ihr Lappen könnt nichts gegen uns ausrichten, meine azzlacks und ich sind alle kampferprobt und haben kickboxerausvildung, heute abend werden wir noch paar deutsche Steffis wegflanken, wir komme bald auch in eure Stadt Sören (:

>>132871403

You can. Internally cut yourself off of this system. Do as little as possible to maintain it, argue leftist arguments via redactio ad absurdum.
If a marxist demands 70 genders you demand 100. They cant argue against that because it is about to be the most progressive. This state will fall anyways, accelerating means making it fall faster in order for the jews to fail to fill the power vacuum so we can step in.

This is the ONLY way to survive as a German that wants to stay German. Everything else is controlled decline.
Americans did not rise up when they became 70% white and not when they became 60% white. So wont we. Even if we are 20% German.
People need to feel discomfort

>>132870472
>the germans
are you a invader?

>>132871118
But they are all germans?

>>132871403

I ask you this. What would you be willing to fight for?

>>132871403

Didnt read the rest of the post, you delusional CivNat cucks or "patriots" are as bad as Antifa for the survival of Europe.

Sandniggers must leave or die sooner or later, or we will be bred out/mixed and become somtheing that is not us.

>>132864389
>It's virtually on the same level as Sweden and Canada.

On the same level as Sweden perhaps, but Canada is in a whole different cuck league - literally 4x worse than Sweden and Germany COMBINED.

>>132871787

Pretty sure he is, probably a "moderate" and totally BASED Sandnigger

>>132871895
Freedom of choice. Choice of opinion, ruling party and religion.

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Germany to survive should elect Hitler, kill all leftists, niggers and kikes. Which is not gonna happen.

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>>132864389
>I know /pol/ really hates Germany
No, I don't. Nothing that is happening right now in Germany is the fault of the German people. This is all the fault of Britain, France, and America. All of it. They've flooded our popular culture with anti-Nazi propaganda and brainwashed the European peoples for nearly a century. Every single terrorist attack, all the European blood, it's all on their heads, and on their heads exclusively. Fuck those evil pieces of shit, especially the Brits.

>>132871787
whites need to go quietly into the night

Support AfD. It's the only party that offers hope to combat mass migration. For the first time, you could learn a thing or two from the Poles.

>>132871104
Yes. Brits don't give a shit about the past.

Brits.

Wogs go on about it. Brits don't give a shit. Except when we are actively proud of it. ^__^

>>132872089
EVERYTHING is the fault of German people, just like the very same German people blamed everything that happens in Greece to the Greeks, everything that happens in Portugal to the Portuguese, Ghana to Guns, so on and so forth.
It's all their fucking fault and saying otherwise makes both you and them gigantic hypocrites (not that they aren't anyway).

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>>132864389
Protect your women

>>132871403
In Germany. Subverting your people's right to self-determination. Your sovereignty. Your freedom. Of course it goes against the idea of Germany, Germany is a nation state. Was expanded to include the German peoples. So that they could have the most powerful possible state that would seek to further their interests.
>>132871773
No, be a pillar. People who cave do so wholly. It's little more than habit, if you speak truth you stay true and people will respect you. You've got to keep your own life in order. Maybe take your state funded education and fuck off to the USA for a while, just don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

>>132864565
literal fake news in your infograph

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports

german exports are less than USA and China

>>132872005

So when these things are threatened, even slightly you fight? Because from what I have seen your countries freedoms have slowly eroded through government oversight.

Your ruling party plays unfairly with the media and propaganda, and if enough Muslims enter your country you will have to hide your religion as well.

Perhaps you do fight I can't say, but you aren't winning.

>>132872316
The Allies deNazified Germany with forceful legislature, and brainwashed the population for nearly a century. No, this is the allies fault exclusively. All the problems in the German system is entirely because of the allies.

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>>132872316
>strawmanning this hard

>>132864389
>le german demoralization thread
fuck off kike

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do the (((protests))) going a violent later??

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>>132864565
>werner von braun leaded the rocket program
>leaded

lern englisch, spast

other than that i actually agree on germans being the best people in the world.
all countries bordering germany minus poland and france are top notch countries too

>>132872089
Blame shifting is counterproductive. Is Merkel doing the will of the people? I very much doubt it. Is this Britain's, or the USA's fault? No. It's not their responsibility. The responsibility of seeing to it that the German government represents the German people falls on the Germans, because it's they who have to live with the consequences. When you blame others for your problems you're shirking your responsibility and begging others to fix it in your place. If you want to change something you have to be willing to do it yourself, to adopt responsibility for it.

It may not always be their fault, but it is always their responsibility. It's their future.

>>132864389
RIP in Germany. desu, can't wait to see which wins: Islam, 4th Reich, or Commies. I'm leaning to Middle East myself, but I could see a reactionary 4th Reich forming from the ashes.

>>132864389
Just carry on commiting suicide. The somaliens and syrians will be easy to get rid off without jew protection

>>132872316
>ust like the very same German people blamed everything that happens in Greece to the Greeks, everything that happens in Portugal to the Portuguese, Ghana to Guns, so on and so forth.
But I didnt do that and I know none who did

>>132872489
And I do not see that at all. I do not see how the ruling party tries to unfairly influence media, and I lived in a country which is almost solely muslim before and we could and did go to church openly. Everyone at school and in the neighborhood knew that we were christian and active in church. Not once did I feel threatened or the need to hide my faith or opinions.

>>132872503
>My problems are because of someone else but your problems are because of you
Not going to bother arguing with a hypocrite. Thanks for verifying it, though.

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>>132872699
>>132872696
>>132872670
>>132872552
>>132871980
>>132871401
>>132871403
>>132869251
>>132868405


The German journalist Sören Kohlhuber conducted a violent ANTIFA attack on Lauren Southern, Tim Pool and other American journalists in Hamburg.
Since then he is getting flak from around the world, making him more and more nervous.

He wrote the following article on his blog justifying the attacks and complaining about the international pressure on him.

Please help translate this article

https://soerenkohlhuber.wordpress.com/2017/07/08/rechte-medienaktivisten-bei-g20-anschliessende-kampagne-gegen-mich/

This evening we shall have another thread where collect all the information we have on him

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What does germany needs ?
Kek...
We all know who Germany needs

>>132872552
>This guy is a nazi. NAZI. KILL HIM
Not a strawman at all, but isn't it classic for a German to wrongfully label someone as something he isn't just to discredit him? Yes it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIm3d5YEwiQ

>>132872696
>But I didnt do that and I know none who did
Kek. Legit proof.

>>132872677
The only way you're going to fix this is to acknowledge how we got here in the first place. Their responsibility is for them to purge Americanism and Jewry, and systematically execute the traitors in the system like Merkel. The only way they can truly change things for the better is with a civil war, it's to cleanse the nation with a baptism of fire, and this holds true for every single western nation.

>>132872933
>Proof
I ain't the one making the original claim, you're are at the burden of proof here

By the way, fuck Merkel and all germans that support her.

Fuck Germany and Sweden for requiring all EU to take rapefugees.

>>132872089
It's everyone elses fault... got it.
Fucking Europe is full of dindus.

>>132872933
fuck off magapede

>>132869520
>Singing a phrase part of our national hymn is borderline illegal

It's not illegal, nor is it borderline illegal, Fingol.
Germans are too afraid to turn nationalistic again, due to American brainwashing, so we don't sing the first two stanzas in occasions such as the World Cup.

Anyone with half a brain in Germany knows that "Deutschland über alles" is not meant to demote other nations, but to celebrate the unity of the German people.

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>>132871773
Most intelligent comment I've ever read here.
Pop the baloon by blowing too fast.
Fight nihilism with hypernihilism, "freedom" - hyperfreedom, narcissism - hypernarcissism.
Get inside the opponents head and apply pressure.
IMO this is the whole point.

>>132873030
Fuck off, burger. Every single year you fart out some shitty Holocaust film that your entire population pretends to enjoy. You are a mass of subhuman filth.

>>132872503
This

It destroyed themselves too

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>>132872089
you are stupid if you actually believe that

>>132873003
Do you think that a civil will happen bu herself ?
I don't think so.
The civil war between nationalist and muslim is the only good way to take back the country.
Nationalist cant attack the country's governement. They have to attack the common hostile.
Coz the governement will have to take part in favor of nationalist.

>>132872824
yeah, just saw the related videos from southern & co

going to translate, gimme a few minutes

>>132864389
Give back Slavic lands, you alemanic warmonger

>>132873155
>You are a mass of subhuman filth.

They have been subverted by jew propaganda too, so it's not entirely fair to blame the regular burger either.

>>132873003
That's still adopting responsibility. That they faltered. That they allowed foreign interests to dictate their lives. That they need to drive it out, that they need to take control.

The Germans are responsible for their own future, and they won't secure it before they realize that.

>>132872699

I see. Then you do not fight at all. You wear the blinders(local media) given to you by your masters(govt).

You are content and not at risk. Why should you? Let someone else do it. All the while the trickle of subversion drips away at the things you posture yourself as a defender of.

It's all hollow and I'm not fooled, but you've certainly fooled yourself and I think there are many others like you with that sense of complacency with no ambitions.

>>132864389
>What can be done, to get Germany back on track.
Import more muslims to eradicate the German from this world

>>132873005
You tried to discredit my claim with the most anecdotal fallacy you could think of, got exposed for it and now you switch to
>muh burden of proof
You will not bother reading anything I show you anyway. You're most likely new and inexperienced or just clueless. The vast majority of posts, comments and articles from Germans blame everything on the people of e.g. Greece. The 'lazy' meme started in Germany (despite being inaccurate). Now we're seeing Germans blame their misfortune on OTHERS? Wew. Not hypocritical at all.

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>>132864389
>I know /pol/ really hates Germany and it's not hard to see why.
It's because Germany has fallen the furthest.

You were the best of us. Now look at you. It makes me sick in a way that Swedish degeneration just can't.

Please, Germany, don't let Angela Merkel get back at the top of ur governement

>>132872824
Title: Right-wing media activists at the G20 - subsequent campagne against me

An international network of Right-wingers bombarded me via Twitter and Facebook with new, a journalists outs me in a youtube-video, after he and other activists from the surroundings of the ID and the US-right had been attacked by German Antifa at an Anti-G20 demonstration. An explanation and a small research about the people + the fitting posts in my inbox.

At the Fischmarkt, right at the beginning of "Welcome to hell" - demonstration, a group of four people with cameras caught my eye. A woman and three men. The woman was wearing a blue shirt of the "New Right"-groupe "Identitäre Bewegung". As always, I take pictures of such people and publish the information and photos on Twitter. The group noticed my photo and made them form a council, the woman then went to the toilette and returned with a different shirt. The group was talking English.

Apparently the group was harrassed and attacked the following day by AntiDa at Anti-G20 protests, which is why a person made a video outing me and my photographies. Ever since I have been receiving mails with threats on all possible social networks. The virtual right-wing arme from Canada/USA, to Poland and New Zealand is sending me love letters.

Thanks to Antifas structure of research in the US and German, some of these people have been identified.

cont.

>>132873429
Your accusing me of complacency but I legitimately do not see a threat.
And still you think of our media as controlled by the government which simply isnt true. At all.

>>132873577
>You will not bother
>Youre most likely new and inexperienced
And I'm the one posting fallacies. M8, either you drop some proof or your just a lame troll

>>132873074
>Anyone with half a brain in Germany knows that "Deutschland über alles" is not meant to demote other nations, but to celebrate the unity of the German people.

Anyone with half a brain anywhere can understand that 'Deutschland über alles' means to elevate your nation above all else. That's what the phrase fucking means anyway. And since it's connected with video below, it's borderline illegal in your stupid country.
>Aka you can do it without having problems with the law, just going to be very shunned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmNfQQ6paYg

>>132873803
>>132873298

nvm i was too slow

>>132864389
You're doomed to extinction, accept it and commit sudoku.

>>132873889

Then perhaps you should leave the bubble that you live in. It will take effort, which, from what I've gathered, may be too much effort for the tragically apathetic. They've trained you all so well.

That may be a bit too harsh. Maybe you will come around soon. I'm hopeful.

>>132873958
>>132873803
thank you a lot and thank you for your time

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>>132864389
There's absolutely nothing wrong with germany. By all means, carry on.

>>132873955
You're fucking garbage, kid.
Don't talk about things you have no idea about.

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>>132864389

>>132873803
Person 1: Lauren Southern:
The 22-year old Canadian would not have caught my attention, if she would not have worn that IB-Shirt. Wearing this shirt, says all that is needed about her ideology. In Canada, she is known in conservative spheres. A Wikipedia post says, she was running for the Libertarian party in the last election. This party belongs to the spectrum of Liberalism, which advocates a free market, that regulates everything, while also giving all necesarry civil right. In April 2017 she spoke at the Patriots Day" in the USA. In the US media she is call a "conservative media-activist". She has almost 300.000 followers on Twitter, since she is a bestselling author with books such as „Barbarians: How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation“

Person 2 - Max Bachmann

The German Max Bachmann is from the spectrum of "Wahnwichtel" (apparently a left-wing slam term for right-wing conspiracy people). He himself proclaims that he is an "Independent journalist". He himself walked with the IB in Berlin and "observed" the Bilderberg meeting. he belongs to the "Endgame"clique from Halle. Endgame means "Engaged democrates against the Americanization of Europe". Bachman took selfies with participants at a "Merkel must go" demonstration and is activ in the conspirational and anti-semitic blog "Eingeschenkt TV".

Person 3 Luke Rudkowsky

Luke Rudkowsky has 70.000 followers and is a self-proclaimed "free journalist" for the New York Times. According to reserch by US-colleagues, he is part of the Truther scene. He is the founder of the media "We are Change", which is spreading videos with interviews and conspiration theories. On this platform, Rudkowsky talked about the assault at the G20 and showed pictures and tweets of me. The video had 60.000 clicks after not even 24 hours.

cont

>>132873955
STFU idiot

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>>132873155
>burger meme

>>132874335
>Be Deutschlandlied
>''Germany above all else in the world''
>I-it's about the unity of the german people

Ultimately OP was correct. /pol/ hates Germany and it's easy to see why. Just look in the mirror.

>>132874267
Now you're just throwing buzzwords around. What "bubble" are you accusing me of living in? I regularly visit areas in germany where migrants are the majority, my parents live in one such place. I dont live in a major city (albeit closeby) so we dont get town halls but my parents do and they are active and can tell me about local politics directly.
I consider myself well informed reading american and german newspapers and intelligent enough to dissect opinion from fact (Der Spiegel e.g. is particularly awful in this regard)

I do not see how I am apathetic, complacent or "well-trained".

>>132874564
said the retard defending his Danish fuckbuddy who blame shifts like a faggot.

>>132864389
>What can be done, to get Germany back on track.
Divide the Bundesländer into independent countries.
Turn Berlin into a city state and leave it to its own.
The Weimar republic is a failed experiment after all.
After playing this out, a German monarch can unite the German states again into something similar to the Commonwealth.

>>132864389
>What can be done, to get Germany back on track.
- Vote Merkel
- Cut taxes and welfare
- Stop taking refugees. Send refugees to Poland
- Promote free trade with Asia
- Force the Southern Europe to keep their deficit low

>>132874698

You see those people out in the streets rioting and looting and causing mayhem?

What are you doing about it? Reading your biased liberal media? Good dog.

>>132873955
This is the exact same argument that sjws use.

> "my wife is the best in the world! Ni woman could top her!"
> "uuuuuh i don't think it's nice to complement yiur wife by demeaning other women???"

You don't understand the concept of pride or self interests. Kill yourself this instant.

>>132874563
Person 4 Tim Pool
Tim Pool is activ for many media outlets, such as Al Jazeera, NBC and Times. He was activ in the "Occupy Wallstreet" demonstration and international protests such as "No Nato Chicago" and the protests at Gezipark in Istanbul. In 2013 he received an award for his Twitter-activism in the US. On Twitter he has 144.000 followers. The Antifa-network "IGD" (its going down) from the US called him an "Alt-right troll" on Twitter. They published a photo with right-wingers from the US at a restaurant where Tim Pool was also sitting.

Luke Rudkowsky confirmed to have been out that day with these three people. A photo of an ambulance show Max Bachmann in the background and he has been linked to that picture on Twitter. He also linked his joined activities with Lauren Southern at an IB protest in Berlin.
The group therefore consists of three well-connected and highly activ right-wing media activists. The consequence is a medial shitstorm against me from Canada, USA, New Zealand, Australia, Poland, Germany, Finland and South-American countries. A collection of "love letter", which are a portrayal of the fanbase, at least that of Rudkowsky (who instigated against me virtually) can be seen below this article

>>132874875
no vote schulz!
Thats what I am doing, going to run this country right off the edge of a cliff ;^)

>>132874875
>Vote Merkel
>Stop taking refugees. Send refugees to Poland
Get raped with a knife you retarded shit.

>>132874886
What should I do about it? How do you expect me to stop them? There are thousands of trained policemen and our equivalent of SWAT on the scene.
I have and will share my opinion about them, but apart from that what is it that I could be doing?

Also what do you mean our biased liberal media? Every single one of our media outlets, even the lefty ones talk negatively about them. No one likes them here.

>>132875022
>>132874563
>>132873803
ich bin unterwegs, kann jemand die engl. Übersetzung einem Screenshot des Originals gegenübersetzen?

>>132875072
Merkel already won, Schulz has no chances. The question now is all about the coalition.

>>132864389
Nothing. /thread

>>132874939
>By calling your wife best in the world you're not demeaning other women
HAHAHAHHAHAHA how retarded are you people really with your pathetic comparisons and emotions. Of course you're demeaning all other women by default since your wife is now #1, everyone else is inferior. Kindergarten math. And I never said you shouldn't do that. I said THAT'S what the anthem does. It's pride and it puts your own nation above all else in the world. It's nationalism and it's not really happening anymore.

>Same argument sjws use
Wtf are you talking about. It's the exact opposite. Another retard who uses a bad label in his desperate attempt to argue.

>>132871104
Most British people are proud of enslaving the wogs, only the Jews complain about it

>>132875302
Relax gypsy bro, Merkel has obviously learned her lesson and she is the lesser of two evils

>>132875318

You organize. You remove them.

You say no one likes them? Do something about it.

>>132874875

- Vote Merkel
- Cut taxes and welfare
- Stop taking refugees. Send refugees to Poland

I know you're a troll, nobody with a European flag isn't, but Poland ain't gonna take them, and Merkel ain't gonna cut taxes or gibs for gimmiegrants.

>>132875353
Won't stop me, trying to get everyone i know to vote schulz.

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>>132875340
>>>132873003

>>132875570
>Poland ain't gonna take them,
Once Merkel is re elected no one is gonna ask you, sorry to tell you that

>>132864389
Bavaria and post soviet part splits from Germany and creates Veimar republic. Nuke the rest.

>>132875705
no hes right poland isn't taking refugees quit larping

>>132875792
>Poland
Why am I not surprised

>>132875705

Cute, he still thinks anyone cares about your Fourth Reich LARP.

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>>132864389

Noice divoid an' conquer you 'ave 'ere. moit. I roite 5/10 0,02 cents were sent to your bank account.

>>132864389
Germany in it's current state can't survive.
Split the country into regions. Institute right wing authoritarianism in the less-cucked zones, relocate the muds and the lefties into cucked zones, then try to absorb the non-cucked people from cucked regions.
This is literally the only way for Germany, no right wing politician will ever win general elections because of the power of german brainwashing and the ageing of whites combined with breeding speed of shitskins.
So either split and save parts of the country or die together.

>>132875979
you guys can't even shit post properly

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>>132875426

> you demean other women by liking yours more.
> "im not saying you shouldn't do that but..."
> "nationalism doesn't happen anymore! XD"


Nationalistic movements are on the rise worldwide. Your woman will always be better than other women. Not nessesarly because other are inferior, but because you love her. Because she's yours.

You don't go arround calling other wonen whores because she isn't that one. Who the fuck does that?


But hey, that doesn't mean you can't use that as an argument! Everyone should be equal right?

Kill yourself.

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>>132864389
>What can be done, to get Germany back on track.
You can't help those who don't wish to help themselves.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499506494029.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499506494029.webm
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499506494029.webm

>>132875889
Well considering post soviet part isnt degenerate fucks like the rest. So they are worth saving.

>>132864389
When Germany starts spiralling out of control is when the fun starts. Achtung

>>132875979

No. Germans is not an ally. It's always been an enemy of Europe and white people

> m-m-muh Hitler

Allied with Muslims, warred primarily against white people, destroyed white and European nationalism maybe forever.

Germany please kys. All of you.

>>132875563
You mean physically engage and block them? What is it that I could do better than riot cops?

>>132867013
>especially the city states in the north are cancerous leftist shitholes.
Well that's a global(ist) phenomenon. It's also the war we're fighting, and as of yet it's an information warfare. Hopefully it'll not degrade into real warfare, because then you'll have to wait 200 years until the survivors reach post-WW2 standards of living.

>>132875854
>>132875958

Sure sure, we will see.

>>132864389
I like germans (real, ethnic).

Wish you had won the war.

>>132874640
"Im August des Jahres 1841 zog er sich für den Sommerurlaub auf die damals noch britische Insel Helgoland zurück. Dort schrieb er den Text vom „Lied der Deutschen“, das er zu einem Festlied der Nationalbegeisterten machte. Es war für ihn ein Lied, das für die ersehnte, durch die territoriale Zersplitterung verhinderte Einheit der Nation stand sowie für „Recht und Freiheit“ als politische Grundforderungen. Hoffmann, dem jedes imperialistische Streben fern lag, konnte nicht ahnen, dass vor allem die erste Strophe seines Gedichts vielfach missverstanden und missbraucht werden würde. Zur musikalischen Unterlegung der Wörter entschied er sich für die Melodie der von Joseph Haydn (1732 bis 1809) komponierten Kaiserhymne. Haydn hatte diese 1797 im Auftrag der österreichischen Regierung zur Vertonung des patriotischen Textes „Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser“ verfasst."

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tl;dr:
For Hoffmann, his song was intended to crave for those who have suffered from the lack of unity inhibited by territorial seperation.
Hoffmann's intentions were far from that of an imperialistic idea; He could not predict that the German people after his time would abuse the lyrics.

source: https://web.archive.org/web/20110906081233/http://www.bundestag.de/blickpunkt/103_Parlament/0502/0502014.html

I know how embarrassing it is to get told, so I advise you to never reply to me again, you absolute shitstain.

>>132864565
Look at this slave,he's happy about his shackles
Germany is a disgrace

>>132876141
>Talking about love, hugz and kisses.
>Implying I'm the SJW one

Kek. Slav lay off the alcohol, you make no sense. It's like all your brain is capable of doing is figuring out 50 random words to say before ''Kill yourself''.

>>132865003
True!
Only possible answer right here

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>>132876314
>>132876314
Its not happening and the fact that you want something like that to happen shows you're a piece of garbage that needs to drown yourself in the Mediterranean sea

*img is your mom

>>132876098

"You guys" huh? Still butthurt of us killing a bunch of kikes?

>>132876192

Nope, we were always white just like everybody else and did our part, it was us who helped save europe from islam and a lot of brilliant heads are from germany.

The only reason why you say this is because you think that "nationals are so dumb" and if you set us against each other you can finally get that black bull from africa to please you and your girlfriend. What you shills simply don't realize is that this is a bit deeper than that. People on here have similar believes that are tied with their nationality but also with respect over other nationalities. That is something a leftist like you will never understand.

>>132876234

You help the police the police help you.

Police organized civilian militia.

You block them, you protect property, you protect people, you engage.

You should probably wear something that helps the police identify you as a good guy.

I hear brown is popular.

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>>132876632
"You guys" huh? Still butthurt of us killing a bunch of kikes?

Last time i checked about 80% of germans are terrified of even waving a german flag in public

>>132876589
It is happening no matter how loud you cry or how angry you are. Soon it is gonna be Agnieszkas and Kasias voluntary spreading their legs and everyone will learn that Poland was just a meme.

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>>132876507
> you cannot love if you're not an sjw! xd
> you must be drunk cuz you don't agree with me.

Wew lad. Just wew.
Apparently not being a degenerate means i don't know what love is. And i can't take it as a humam condition into a count.
> implying that degenerates do.
Your arguments are soo weak you have to resort to personal attacks.

Here, have some variety: neck yourself

>>132876458
>Do not reply to me ever again
Even if you are 100% right (which you aren't, because no one cares about bundestag.de claims nor believes that a song maintains its original intentions forever, hence why it's not fully sang since 1990) you lost simply because of that. Too scared to deal with counter-arguments. Sad.

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As if you don't know.

>>132876947
found the shitskin
you just upset amid because no goats to fuck in doucheland?

>>132876632

>Germany helped save Europe from Islam


AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

> Germans: Guys we're gonna help save Europe!
> Sacks Constantinople, destroying all its history, beauty and leaving it for Islam to take
> WWI Germans: Guys we're going to save Europe!
> Allies with the Ottoman Empire.
> WWII Germans: Guys we're going to save Europe!
> Allies with Muslims against Europeans

Then you call me a leftist. The only thing you think about your nationality is "WE WUZ NAZIS NOW WE MUST BEND OVER".

>>132876963
>proving me right, the post
I should thank you guys for making it so easy.

>>13286438
You guys really need a revolution

>>132876632
>>132876918

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVcspJhjjN4

Never Forget!

Stop lettin in the dune coons

>>132876814
And here we are again in LARP area. The police do not want help from amateurs no matter how well intentioned.
Leave sensitive and dangerous problems to professionals, this goes for any area in life. Amateurs usually only make the problems worse. In this case by escalating tensions.

>>132877022
I fuck goats than a polish girl who will give you your white kids. How is that making you feel?

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>>132877123
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH
WTF IS THAT GERMANY! YES!!!
What a fucking joke!!!!!
God doucheland is just a living meme

>>132877123
B-but according to Germans ITT, the original purpose of the German flag is to unite people and be waved??? What is habbening!

>>132876918

You forgot the >, shill.

Doesn't matter, we did a good job with kikes and it looks like a lot of people tend to flock to fascist ideologies these days. Much more than to leftist ones. Its true that there are a lot of intimidated germans but you know what? People start to wake up even in germany, even though the reaction of our government is quite strict we have our own organisations and they grow stronger by the day. I even see the black, white and red flag more often.

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>>132864389
Drop the damn nuke on Berlin, as Oppenheimer had wanted - furious that Truman had wasted two on the Nips. It's the only way to contain the metastasizing cancer of the Kraut-instigated Muslim Menace, short of dropping a MOAB on the Ka'ba at the peak of the Hajj.

>>132877395
>People start to wake up
I hope so hans

>>132876980
>Too scared to deal with counter-arguments
What counter argument?

>because no one cares about bundestag.de claims nor believes that a song maintains its original intentions forever

Absolute damage control, denying Historians' claims like a childish figure. Read Hoffmann's article on his Wikipedia page, then check the sources before you claim
>Wikipedia.

You're providing no arguments whatsoever and have reduced your state of being on this page to ad hominems only.
The only time the song's intention swifted was in Nazi Germany, go to Germany and ask any intellectual about the true meaning of the first stanza, and you will get the same answer as mine.

And the song is NOT borderline illegal, that's a retarded hoax uninformed retards like you like to repeat when visiting my country.

>>132864389
>It's virtually on the same level as Sweden and Canada.
Actually, it's pretty much worse. The biggest problem I have with Germany and Germans is that you constantly push your leftie/EU bullshit onto everyone else.
You krauts somehow seem to hate sovereignty and cannot respect, even if it hit you in the face.
I wish I could like you guys as brothers, but as it is now, I really can't bring myself to it.

>>132877027

We were in the holy league fighting the ottoman empire and we were very successful. France allied with the ottomans once too. Besides Constantinople were always kinda "special" in a sense. Its true that we sacked it but so did many others. Politics are never just black and white.

Your reaction only proves to me that I'm right to call you a leftist.

>>132877123

Hey I don't like Merkel either, I don't support her and the only reason she is so popular is because the CDU is widely known as a "conservative" party. Which just isn't true anymore.

>>132877273

You're not very convincing man. Nobody talks like that in here.

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>>132877218

You think it's a joke. But it isn't. It would serve the same purpose as the Sturmabteilung. There aren't enough official police to protect things. This is apparent. They wouldn't want to admit it but we all know it's true. Just look at how everything is being trashed!

Have a police officer lead each squad of militia to keep order.

Tell them they can arrest you after the real threat is gone if they still want to. But after the threat is gone you have no reason to be there So then go home and they have no reason to stop you from dispersing.

>>132877818
>You're not very convincing man. Nobody talks like that in here.

/pol/ inst your personnel cult you tard
>tfw you understand /pol/ isnt 1 person
Newfag

>>132877818

> I talk about how Germany consistently fucked up Europe and helped Islam

> Gets called a leftist

What's next? I talk about the evil of the Red Party in China and you call me a Commie?

>>132878347

No but you can usually tell who is and who isn't from here. Even if you're from another board people usually can detect a 4channer easily. Your stuff just comes off as forced and kinda out of place. Also sage because you're really bad at this.

>>132864389
>What can be done, to get Germany back on track.
mass suicide of every person on germany

>>132877685
>Having to explain the same things again and again
I already told you what borderline illegal means. You do NOT sing the full song anymore simply because it would be nationalistic to do so and nationalism is obviously not viewed very well. Deny this all you want.
>to ad hominems only
Classic hypocritical douchelander (most of you exposed since first post), calling me absolute shitstain but somehow be bothered by my ad hominems. The irony.

>The only time the song's intention swifted was in Nazi Germany
>First stanza not currently sung in the Anthem.
>ONLY TIME THE INTENTION SHIFTED
So I assume you're denying that it's not sung since 1990? Absolute damage control, denying wikipedia's claims like a childish figure. If it's not sung, why not? (Let's ask German ''intellectuals'' for the answer)

https://books.google.fi/books?id=CLVaSxt-sV0C&pg=PA70&redir_esc=y&hl=fi#v=onepage&q&f=false
>After the failure of the revolution in 1848, the song was by Hoffman was quickly forgotten.
>It was the first president of Weimar who declared the song the official Anthem.
I suggest you do not reply again, save some face since it's your own fucking anthem, you know.

>>132864389
Invest in police force and armed forces and push for harsher laws. Don't ever make a Summit again until you gatherthese conditions.

rioters with fire extinguers filled with HF (aq) (weak acid) making chemical burns in police officers. This is a warzone tier. Send the armed forces

>>132864389

stfu . germay isnt on the same lvl as sweden and canada.

no other country took in millions

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>>132864389
Yoy must find the formula enemies use to make your bation self destructive neutralize the sources and then be positive pro you and pro your nation r1bro.

>>132878154
Jesus christ man I hope you're just trolling at this point

>>132878457

Because we didn't you know yourself all these things were a bit more complicated than that. You just make it look like its just our fault so you can turn us against each other. I don't see a reason why you would do this especially because the rightwing is on the rise, even here.

That and its those ridiculous way of answering that simply gives it away.

>>132879102

> The right wing is on the rise even here

Oh, bullshit. You have *one* center-right party and it's polling at 8%.

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>>132878820
For example the formula enemies use on Germany is that the more you are fir self enpowerment the more you wish for destruction against others so change it up, the more self empowerment and nationalist the more life giving and protective, make nationalists extremists in human rights, life preservation and such..

Me for example am completely nationalistic yet do not embody destruction, the main concern are jewish shills that worl to steer nationalism in their course, embodying destruction.

>>132879290
Merkel's party is classified as center-right too, kek. THIS is nationalism for the Germs, anon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU/CSU

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>>132879366
Which is why the holocaust equation is unquestionable, it is a fundamental element in the formula to equate European identities and self preservation with destruction.

>>132878615
>I already told you what borderline illegal means. You do NOT sing the full song anymore simply because it would be nationalistic to do so and nationalism is obviously not viewed very well. Deny this all you want.

I have never denied this, the first two stanzas are not part of our national hymn.
Your definition of borderline illegal is bad.

>Classic hypocritical douchelander (most of you exposed since first post), calling me absolute shitstain but somehow be bothered by my ad hominems. The irony.
You don't know what an ad hominem is.
You are disregarding professionals' opinions on a topic without providing any counter claims.
Insulting =/= ad hominem

>So I assume you're denying that it's not sung since 1990? Absolute damage control, denying wikipedia's claims like a childish figure. If it's not sung, why not? (Let's ask German ''intellectuals'' for the answer)
Wrong again, I have never denied that. A remarkable shift in the intention was only in Nazi Germany.
Not singing the song because of the shift is not an additional shift.

Are you implying that I think that we are not too afraid to get back to Nationalism? I fully acknowledge how leftist this country is.

Germany is worse than Sweden and Canada

>>132879844
Come on, give us some slack. We all have problems.

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>>132879290

There are more but its difficult to take hold here since everything controlled from the goverment works against you. Pegida is still alive and kicking still growing, Identitäre Bewegung is there too. They even once took over several important buildings.

But its difficult all media here in germany is leftist and against anything that is national or that is barely resembling german culture. Governments try their best to oppose you, antifa is completely unchecked, most cases against antifa thugs are dropped. Its difficult to do anything but turn violent at this point.

As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts a lot of people actually think the CDU is a conservative and actually a rightwing party. Most of these people, are old people having no clue of politics.

>>132878959

I'm serious. Are you not motivated to protect your own cities, buildings, ideas, and people?

You don't need elite training to beat the snot out of some anarchist piece of shit that's trashing everything you love and abusing your liberties to walk all over what you and everyone before you held dear and vital.

You only need to make a fist.

You cannot win this any other way at this point.

Fight now, win, and remember what had to be done to maintain real civility. Real civilization.

Then take measures so that those who come after you remember and not have to turn to violence in their own time.

>>132880054
Yeah but no one gives two shits about Sweden or Canada. Germany is a big economy with tons of culture. If California broke off of the USA, it would be a copy of Germany politically

>>132880063
There are no politcal solutions brother. You, Nordics and Anglos have the purest Yuropeon blood, which is why the kikes are doing this to you.

>>132879825
>You don't know what an ad hominem is.
>Ad hominem is not insulting
Seriously now?
Ad hominem:
>You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.
>Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is now usually understood as a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument
Do you want the definition of insult too? Or maybe they're all wrong, you fix your own definition so we can all quote it instead.

Disregarding professional's opinions is not ad hominem. It's just disrespecting authority. Call it bad if you want, it kinda is, but not ad hominem.

>I fully acknowledge how leftist this country is.
Out of curiosity, when you asked me to ''ask German intellectuals'' were you aware that they would fall under the same leftist scope therefore making their answer politically biased for/against the anthem?

The full anthem is inherently nationalistic (I mean it was forgotten then adopted by Weimar that was... nationalistic). Can we fucking agree with that at least? Jesus Christ the struggle.

>>132880063

Everything you said is correct. But detailing the problems keeping your right wing from rising does not mean your right wing is rising. It means it isn't.

>>132880614
>>132879825
>Can we agree with that
Never mind, I forgot you believe in Hoffman's very original intention according to smart German historians so we obviously disagree. Even if the original intention was kinda forgotten before Weimar. My bad, no sarcasm.

>>132880749

Erm no? Just because I mention the problems doesn't mean anything on its own. Wether its rising or not is information you have to gather yourself to truely believe it. But as I see it people simply lost their believe in a multicultural society "free of hate." They automatically turn to differet things, our government being far left its only logical to see more and more people flock to rightwing ideas. Well and its so problematic for our government that they simply don't mention anything about those organisations, mainly because the whole country is in a very risky situation. Its the same with muslim criminals, they refuse to talk about them because they know it helps our cause and strengthens muslims thinking its all the "evil west."

Even the Bundeswehr, our army, exercises to intercept everywhere in germany as quickly as possible. I think its quite clear that they fear either the people getting violent towards the government or muslims being muslims doing terrorist attacks.

>>132882582

>Erm no? Just because I mention the problems doesn't mean anything on its own. Wether its rising or not is information you have to gather yourself to truely believe it. But as I see it people simply lost their believe in a multicultural society "free of hate." They automatically turn to differet things, our government being far left its only logical to see more and more people flock to rightwing ideas. Well and its so problematic for our government that they simply don't mention anything about those organisations, mainly because the whole country is in a very risky situation. Its the same with muslim criminals, they refuse to talk about them because they know it helps our cause and strengthens muslims thinking its all the "evil west.

I thought Germans still believed Islam is hunky dory, at least in surveys. Might be wrong.
>Even the Bundeswehr, our army, exercises to intercept everywhere in germany as quickly as possible. I think its quite clear that they fear either the people getting violent towards the government or muslims being muslims doing terrorist attacks.

So your army is going to suppress you. Woop. I don't expect them to do anything about Islam.