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>IN B4 MUH BLACKS
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americans are faggots, so they go jail to get butt fucked.
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The answer is blacks now delete your cancerous thread
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war on drugs and niggers
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>>132818432
It actually went RIGHT - the murder rate peaked in 1980 at 10 per 100,000, then fell to 4.4 in 2014.

Unfortunately, it has been rising since then, and is probably back to 5.3 or 5.4 (the final FBI statistics for 2016 will be released in the fall). Right now, we don't put nearly ENOUGH violent criminals in prison, and certainly not for LONG enough. We need to purge them from the streets if we want a safe, orderly country.
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>>132818432
Has your prison system not become more privatized?
Do they not set quotas or is that just an "Urban legend"
The population has also risen.
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Prison industrial complex and black propensity to violent crime.
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Rise in population plus anti intellectual black culture beginning in the 80s, disclaimer, I haven't seen the X axis and... Yep it peaks about 3/4 years after hip hop became gangster rap.

>>132818656
No, no, MTV has designed this situation to keep black men down voluntarily. In 50 years they'll feel very awkward because they'll know they're doing this to themselves via collectivism.
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>>132818432
Blacks and Hispanics
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>>132818432
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>>132818656
Blacks don't reproduce that much it is like a 9000% increase
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>>132818432
The Great Society welfare programs incentivized black women to be single mothers in order to get government money. Boys raised by single mothers have a higher likelihood of engaging in criminal behavior and going to prison. That increase in criminal activity coincided with the rise of cocaine and crack as the new drugs of choice.
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>>132818709
>Right now, we don't put nearly ENOUGH violent criminals

60% of that shit is like non-violent offenders you must be retarded.
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>>132818432
capitalism.
black people.
Capitalism's effect on worthless abhumans and lazyfucks.
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>>132818432
>>IN B4
That only works if it's not true, faggot.
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>>132819164
>single mothers

Not good enough explanation we have more people locked up then any place on the planet.

>>132819413
We have more white people locked up then Europe
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>>132819224
Better to round up and imprison a large number of them for small time offense before some of them moved on to more violent crime.
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>>132819357
Mmmm, yesssss.... good goy!! That's the right story.
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>>132818432
Yeah, how the fuck did we let the niggers get out?
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>>132819483
>We have more white people locked up then Europe
Cool proof
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>>132819491
>before some of them moved on to more violent crime.

Our system actually spits them out broke with nothing and they commit more crime. It is not like they sit in jail or prison for ever they get out and do more shit. Fuck one state had 80% or something like that for child support. Then your retarded ass has to pay more taxes to keep him locked up and his family alive.
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>>132818432

war on drugs
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>>132819483
Look at countries by homicide rate. The countries with lower rates are either more white than us, or more Asian, with very few blacks. Then look at the murder rate of countries with lots of black people, our rate is lower than most of them because we lock a bunch of blacks up for minor offenses before they graduate to more violent crimes.

So while Europe may have a lot of single mothers, they also have a lot less blacks than us.
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>>132819939
This
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>>132819780
>Cool proof

Look it up.
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>>132819886
If you keep them off the streets when they are young, you reduce the chance they will engage in violent crime. Violent crime tends to come from young men, and in America mostly young black men.
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>>132819224
Incorrect. "Non-violent offenders" is a meme. Most people are incarcerated on charges that include violence or weapons possession/usage. When you hear "prison reform," remember that they want to release VIOLENT criminals.
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>>132818432
The war on drugs and the Clinton crime bill.
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>>132820069
>look at race.

>Implying communist china did not carry out one of the largest genocides of human history.
>Implying Stalin did not have massive gulags
>implying there were blacks in China or the USSR
>Implying government polices don't effect people getting killed or locked up for bullshit.
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>>132818432
http://www.ronunz.org/2013/07/20/race-and-crime-in-america/
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>>132820286
>Non-violent offenders

Locked up for child support or busted with some weed.

>Implying these people need to be put in cages because they are a danger to society
>Implying this is a good use of tax dollars.
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>>132820580
>retard wants to compare state sponsored violence for political means to blacks that lack the ability to delay gratification and don't consider the consequences before acting out.
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>>132818432
Spics, niggers and white trash.
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Privatized prisons and corrupt judges.

Rap/ghetto culture and music was created to keep blacks enslaved.

Rich businessmen profit most from the two things listed above.
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>>132818432
Too many niggers.
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>>132821054
>hurr durr lets separate everyone by race to maintain a national embarrassment of governmental over reach
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>>132821514
>Too many niggers.

LIKE WE HAD A SURGE THAT LARGE IN THE NIGGER POPULATION. ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE RETARDED?
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>>132821545
Look at the homicide rate for white America when you factor out black people. It looks much closer to European rates, while our black murder rate looks closer to African rates
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>>132821966
Incarceration rate went up, violent crime (mostly committed by blacks) went down.
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>>132821966
Gotta kill all the niggers. Then crime rates will go down.
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>>132820885
Again, that's a meme. Very, very few people are locked up for "weed." Not many for child-support arrears. If you want to reduce the prison population in any appreciable way, you'd have to free violent criminals, or go softer on them during sentencing. Here is the New York Times itself admitting this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/upshot/how-to-cut-the-prison-population-see-for-yourself.html

>I was startled by these calculations for New Jersey, for example: Cutting in half the number of people sent to prison for drug crimes would reduce the prison population at the end of 2021 by only 3 percent. By contrast, cutting the effective sentences, or time actually served, for violent offenders by just 15 percent would reduce the number of inmates in 2021 by 7 percent — more than twice as much, but still hardly the revolution many reformers seek.

>New Jersey could reduce its prison population by 25 percent by 2021. But to do it, it would have to take the politically fraught step of cutting in half the effective sentences for violent offenders.

>The inescapable facts revealed to anyone using with the Urban Institute tool: Big cuts in incarceration must come at the state level, and they will have to involve rethinking of sentences for violent criminals.

Look at facts, not memes. "Muh nonviolent marijuana offenders!" is a meme. They don't exist in statistically-significant numbers in 2017.
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>>132822656

https://archive.is/4OFXJ
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>>132818432
Thug culture as the glorification of Marxist rebel ideals.
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>>132818432
War on drugs, niggers being raised by single moms due to the welfare state/great society

Not hard to figure this out
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niggers, mexicans, jews, closing of mental asylums
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>>132822656

>one state

The whole fucking thing surged after the drug laws changed you idiot everyone knows that.
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>>132821545
>>132822266
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6001a14.htm
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>>132823374
Look at your own graph, the trend line was going up before those laws went into effect. The laws were a response, not the cause.
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>>132823698
We still have more incarceration then any other country. Makes no sense
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>>132818432
War on drugs combined with war on crime. We really love wars, now that I think about it.
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>>132818432
>2008
>thanks Obama
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>>132818716
If anything the quotas keep more niggers out of jail. Can't jail them all.
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>>132818432
Prison for profit
Police paid shitloads for arrests
civil forfeiture
Police budgets
DEA and public prosecution need money too.
Corruption.

>in B4 muh race hate
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>>132824958
You have a partially privatized prison system, it's in the interests of the corporations being paid to keep the incarceration rate high, which given the population your prisons control means maintaining a high rate of recidivism. It is against the economic interests of your prison system to attempt to rehabilitate or retrain offenders.
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>>132822656
>>132822656


Those solutions are fucking stupid.

>legalize everything except for violent/aggressive (rape/theft) acts
>make the sentences for these acts life in prison/death penalty depending on level of act
>anything that permanently cripples or kills someone is death
>rest: life in prison

I also disagree with funding prisons except for the security used to keep them in house. They can go full cannibal and only have a 4 week life expectancy for all I care.

Tell me why this wouldn't work to both dissuade/deal with our criminal problems? Obviously there will still be sport were people can "duke it out", but really, tell me why this wouldn't work.
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>>132818432
War on drugs. Duh.
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>>132818432
I'm gonna go with What is the introduction of Rap/Hiphop?
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