Ethnonationalism is retarded for one simple reason: race isn't

bumping to pass around perspective flag design, hang on lads

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Ok Shlomo.
Arguments Regarding the Existence of Races
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Arguments_regarding_the_existence_of_races

Biological Differences Between the Races
http://penetrate.blogspot.com/2009/09/biological-differences-between-races.html

The Biological Reality of Race
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UHOmNGkLlk0

DNA Proof of Racial Differences
http://www.dailystormer.com/dna-proof-of-racial-differences-more-facts-come-to-light/

Human Bio-Diversity Reading List
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/

Race
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race

Race Differences in Intelligence
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI

Race, Evolution and Behavior
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

Race is More than Skin Color!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EU4cvmk44MQ

Races Exist - How Could You Ever Doubt It?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ft6ZVFwURl4

The Reality of Human Races
https://youtube.com/watch?v=H1ePILrB11c

Ten Fallacies of Race Denial
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4ZurClqPGLc

Race and Reason - Carleton Putnam
https://archive.org/details/RaceAndReason

Race and Reality - Carleton Putnam
https://archive.org/details/RaceAndReality

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>>132818043
Bumped because Hoppe rocks.

Your argument is full on "nurture" explanation of behavior. This is almost certainly incorrect. There are behavioral differences between races.

What about Rhodesia? Rhodesia was the most functioning state in Africa despite not having diplomatic recognition, landlocked, and dealing with a war. Once it became Zimbabwe getting diplomatic recognition and ending the war it turned to shit.

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>muh geography

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>>132818283
I wish that chart had the strength of association for each gene.

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Same country, same culture right? It's geography?

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>>132818344
Yeah, but are they really that big? What would be more high-trust: a multiracial community in the same geographical vicinity and environment, or a bunch of the same race across a huge land mass? The former for sure, it's not even really a fucking argument. I guess ethnonationalists are on the right track but they aren't really there yet desu.

>>132818130

bump, almost there...

>>132818043
>I'm a nationalist
>actually, nations are of no significance, it's all culture
So be up front and call yourself a globalist.

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>>132818643
>Different geography would cause more mistrust than different genetics.

Cite some evidence if you can.
>>132818485 is a convincing evidence against your claim.

>>132818964
Nations are downstream from culture. Race is nowhere to be seen, maybe casually teetering to the side of the stream getting a word in once in a while.

>>132818987
But >>132818485 is literally one of those unsourced jpeg-artifact-riddled /pol/ infographs leftists like to insult this board based on.

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>tl;dr new flag proposal

Been fucking around on Illustrator for a bit after I learned about star forts in history class and made this proposal. The 7-spiked "fort" symbolizes the primarily defensive nature of the NAP, but also readiness to deal with outside threats. I'd prefer 5 or 7 spikes (7's my favorite), though I wouldn't know what 5 or 7 would symbolize. I want to keep the number odd so it's always pointing upward. I can make a normal flag, I was just using this decorative template.

What do you guys think? Feel free to give pointers.

>>132819451
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. Ancestry is part of nations, and was central to the formation of nation states. Ignoring that fact just shows you know you can't argue your point, opting to redefine words and play at semantics instead.

eugenic globalism is a better idea
use genius sperm donors to make everyone smart
dissolve national borders and create utopia.

>>132819743
And geography wasn't? There weren't any multiracial nations until the modern introduction of multiculturalism?

>>132819940
Empires? Yes, and they spanned many geographical borders as well.

>>132818043
Sure!

Put disparate groups in the same environment for 60,000 years and restrict immigration for that time and you'll end up with a homogenous population that would be well suited to plain ol' nationalism.

No argument here.

>>132818043

I think you're ignoring the fact that groups, isolated by geography, have already BEEN CREATED by evolution, and we have to take that into account.

If you had a group of whites, and a group of blacks, do you think they would always perform the same, in the same environment? No, because they evolved in different environments.

>>132818987
That is based more on geography and culture than race tho. Most Appalachians are god fearing and committed to their principles to the extent that they would blow their brains out before resorting to stealing or being SSI cheats.

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>>132818043
Nice try, kike.

>>132819691
7 is better for this purpose
+ 5 is too deeply rooted in Asian and Sandnog culture

>>132819451
Ok then, here's some sauce then.
Beattyville, KY Racial makeup and median income: http://www.city-data.com/city/View-Park-Windsor-Hills-California.html
Beattyville, KY Crime Rates:
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Beattyville-Kentucky.html
Windsor Park, CA Racial makeup and median income: http://www.city-data.com/city/View-Park-Windsor-Hills-California.html
Windsor Park, CA Crime rates: http://www.areavibes.com/view+park-windsor+hills-ca/crime/

Some numbers fluctuate, but the conclusion remains valid with the jpeg.

>>132820223

Splendid :D

Any idea what 7 could signify? Any others things you think should go on the flag and/or be changed?

>>132820177
/thread

>>132818043
Agreed. Nation forming happens organically, no nation is ethnically the same as it was a 1000 years ago. The one thing I would encourage though is for people with colored eyes and hair to have many kids. Just for the sake of actual diversity, because these genes are rare and recessive.

>>132820063
I tried to say the same thing in a funnier way, I hope you like my post

>>132818043

Statistics prove you wrong for me.

>>132818344
So why is Japan a wealthy first world country and China a third world shithole?
> inb4 communism
Why did China fall for it in the first place?

>>132820019
But they were more geographically homologous than racially, no? If they had colonies in other parts of the world those colonies were either of a different culture, or were of people who had been not long ago imported from the geographically homologous main nation, and shouldn't be immediatly expected to adopt a widely different culture, no?

>>132820709
No. Disparate peoples only appear where there's disparate geography. Whereas alike peoples can settle many different isolated areas(See: everything at or near the goddamn alps).
>Nations are downstream from culture. Race is nowhere to be seen
>Race is nowhere to be seen
Factually incorrect. See the formation of nation states.

>>132821017
David Hume's essay Of National Characters is very relevant here. He agrees with OP btw.

>>132823302
>I am apt to suspect the negroes and in general all other species of men (for there are four or five different kinds) to be naturally inferior to the whites. There never was a civilized nation of any other complexion than white, nor even any individual eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the whites, such as the ancient GERMANS, the present TARTARS, have still something eminent about them in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant differences could not happen in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction betwixt these breeds of men. Not to mention our colonies, there are Negroe slaves dispersed all over Europe, of which none ever discovered any symptoms of ingenuity, tho' low people, without education, will start up amonst us, and distinguish themselves in every profession. In JAMAICA indeed they talk of one negroe as a man of parts and learning; but 'tis likely he is admired for very slender accomplishments like a parrot, who speaks a few words plainly.
This?

>>132824290
They still thought blacks were like a type of ape in that time, but he wrote of racial differences being negligible in regard to Turks, the Chinese, etc. That's the same reason the Church initially allowed slavery.

>>132824779
There's much long-forgotten wisdom, I guess.

>>132820693
American babysitting

>>132824924
The first pope to actually meet a sub-saharan was horrified and immediately realized the Portugese accounts were incorrect actually.

>>132825270
And Americans are not a race