Why is this allowed?

>>132812066
>Why is this allowed?
Well, you socialist libtard parasite piece of shit, it's allowed because some educations have more worth than others do. Yours, for example, is not worth shit, which is why you think the universe owes you free schooling.

>>132812317
I have a MSc in Chemistry from Penn and I work at a car dealership. Keep falling for the STEM meme moron. I bet you Computer "Science" is actually a science (protip: it isnt).

I went to community college and then commuted and got it pretty cheap. Most of these overly expensive colleges are because people pay for student housing, meal plans and other shit.

Someone has to pay for the salary of the Executive Deputy Dean of the Office of Strategic Community Planning.

>>132812066
why do idiots pay it?

>>132812066
Because people are willing to pay that much, that's why it's allowed.

>>132812443
That means you were a dumbass who didn't know how to network. Networking with average grades gets you way, way farther than good grades and insufficient contacts.

Most stuff can be taught online for virtually nothing, with the technology we have available today.
Education is highly socialist. socialism resists change, therefore it is hyper-inflationary.

only rich successful families should have the privilege to go to college.

>>132813377
high school teachers basically imply after high school you just go to college then get a career because that's what they did. Colleges cash in on 18 year olds with little to no money and no understanding of how much debt they are generally taking on.

>>132813377
Huge number of reasons. They're convinced through social pressure they'll be a failure or lower class if they don't. They vastly overvalue the degree they're going to earn. They probably can't grasp the concept of putting yourself that far in debt because they're young and stupid and haven't handled finances like that before. They get hooked on government loans and scholarships that get them into the system, but if things go wrong they feel stuck and take on more loans. There's probably a decent number of people who probably go "fuck it, I'm never going to pay it anyway" and just don't care.

>Why is this allowed
Because Jews are usurers and will try to squeeze every penny out of the common person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0nI8p_ZUOs

>>132812443
>not having a network after college
>not having any friends in the field
>calls it a meme
>>>r9k

>>132813218

This. Its just Jews in academia creating bullshit do-nothing administration jobs for their fellow Jews, while slowly jacking up the tuition because people will pay anything for their work permits and social worth.

>>132812317
The costs are rising because every student can take a loan from the government

>>132812443
>keep falling for the stem meme
You're just an idiot who has no capability to game the system that played him. I have a $200k degree from cal tech. I started a bullshit nonprofit the year after graduation in order to consolidate my debt to the exactly $0

>>132813885
It's a scam. When a person goes $50,000 in debt for a worthless degree, they don't really want to accept that they made a bad decision. Instead they try to get a job in the education system and start shilling how great education is so more suckers come in and pay for it. They then lobby government to make what they learned mandatory so their job is secured.

>>132814051
>cal tech
Aren't there a lot of chinks there? That seems terrible; the Asian kids at my school cheat so much.

>>132812443
>anything but engineering or software
>STEM
Dun goofed.

costs increase because the available funding continues to be stable. Between grants and subsidies as well as the massive push for debt forgiveness and federally funded tuitions, colleges can charge what ever they want for college because retarded people want what society thinks is best for their child and will find a way to pay for it. Socially driven elitism creates overwhelming demand which allows providers to charge what ever the fuck they want. Take a good long look at it and let it sink in that this is exactly what has been happening to healthcare.

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>go for a STEM degree in a field with very high demand instead of meme degree in comp sci
>STEM degrees are only second in price to med school
>it still costs over 10 times less than burger degrees
Land of the wage slaves, home of the cucks.

>>132814592
Do you know what "STEM" means?

>>132812066
Feels pretty good to be getting it for free.

>>132813956
We have to raise tuition again to afford a new African American Studies complex that the free-ride affirmative action students can be put in.

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Because Jews.

I'll wait until next life for the prices to get to a reasonable point as even my local community college expects $10k a year for tution.

>>132812066
Just because it costs $334k doesn't mean you have to pay it. Buy something else.

If enough people choose other options, colleges will have to drop the price to lure you back in.

>>132813823
This.

I taught genchem and organic for several years. College is now nothing more than grades 13-16

>>132813956
And don't forget presidents, provost's, and coaches with salaries well into the millions or tens of millions.

My god damn undergrad football coach gets 6 million a year to be mediocre.

>>132814381
There are a lot of chinks in any southern California college that isn't a cal state

>>132812066
Government subsidies allow college to charge what they want because colleges know they will get their cash one way or another.

>>132812066
this is your "free market" at work. Why is it that anything thats "free" (free speech, free market, free rights, etc.) end up in the suffering and even murder of people (lgbtq+ peoples and peoples of color being oppressed, college students being oppressed, etc.)

The government should take control of education and make it free for everyone. There is no excuse.

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>go to trade school
>do shit with my own two hands
>$8k/yr
>done in 1.5 years
>make $40k right out of school
Retards going to expensive universities just for the brand name amuse me

>why can't everyone afford "elite" education

I know! And have you seen the prices of Ferraris lately? Ridiculous!

>>132815527
>Why is it that anything thats ends up in the suffering and even murder of people

> make it free for everyone

>>132812443
>I bet you Computer "Science" is actually a science (protip: it isnt).
I don't even

Also you're an idiot if you get into tons of debt and get no job out of the deal

>>132812066
If you want a free education in America, then just spend 4 years in the Navy or Army.

>>132815954
>No airforce

Cuck

>>132815564
enjoy being old when you hit 40

>>132816108
When I'm 40 I plan to be making more than your entire family without lifting a finger

>>132815564
>go to school
>work
>paying someone for the pleasure of it
>wasting a year and half of your life and potential interest/gains
>implying 40k/yr isn't gas station manager level

lol fucking plebs, get on my merchant tier.
>no school
>simply buy shit in spot A and sell in spot B for more
>start any time
>get 50k/yr self paid
>can change that figure any time I don't feel like reinvesting earnings into new ventures

>>132816108
when you're 40 in trades you get paid $150k/year to just check other people's work.

>>132816213
I wish you well whit your plans

>>132816435
Yeah no
You don't just get to wear the white hat because you worked hard and long enough

>>132812443

You should have realized two years into a chem degree that if you don't have a PhD you will be lucky to find a job making 15-20 an hour in the field.

>>132812066
because idiots pay for it

>>132812066

Because colleges are literally a corporate thing now. Theres a whole documentary about it. I think its called Ivory Tower or some shit. Basically colleges compete for expansion to become bigger and they get the funding from the state to do this + the money they get from student tuition. They get bigger and the cost to become a bigger institution also increases so does the cost of admission as well.

>>132812464
>college meal plans
These are some top-tier kikery. I actually did the math on the meal plans back when I was in school and it literally came out to about $80 a day for the plans they would require you to buy if you lived in the dorms. For food that was McDonalds quality at best.

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>>132812066
>Hurr durr we need more money for education!
>*votes to increase funding to colleges*
>colleges suddenly get all of this free funding, decides to squander it on staff pay raises and unnecessary new buildings and landscaping
>hurr durr you HAVE to go to college, otherwise you'll work at McDonalds for the rest of your life!
>Every single 18 year old goes to college no matter how much it costs
>College tuition keeps rising because there is literally no incentive for colleges to lower the price
>hurr durr we need more money for education!
>*votes to give more taxpayer money to colleges, grants, and scholarships*
>college proceeds to squander it again on new buildings and landscaping and pay raises and price gouge tuition
>Every dumbass 18 year old can get a 6 figure unforgivable student loan
>YOU HAVE TO GO TO COLLEGE ANY DEGREE IS A GOOD DEGREE BRO
>College enrollment continues to increase, colleges have no reason to lower the price
>THE REPUBLICANS DID THIS.jpg
>WE NEED MO MONEY FO DEM EDUCATIONS N SHIEET

At what point does the cycle break?

>>132818273
When the colleges are burned to the ground.

>>132818273
>At what point does the cycle break?
when the student loan bubble bursts

>>132812066

Because it's expensive to brainwash retarded liberal children.

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>>132818524
What do you predict will happen post-crash, or is that too much Machiavellian wishful thinking?

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Not for the truly deserving.

>>132818612
No, it's just easy to rip off retarded children and their retarded parents, the indoctrination is just a side effect, to ensure that the spice keeps flowing when their children become college age.

>>132818822
>What do you predict will happen post-crash
no idea but the latest it could possibly happen is when the unpaid unforgivable student loan debt is passed on to the debtor's children

>>132812066
add 4 years of foregone wages and it's another 120k

>>132818822
Probably another 2008

Last I read there were something like $1 trillion in the US for delinquent student loans.

Most people have no idea how many people shot themselves and the country in the foot when they decided that taking out a $100,000 student loan for a political science degree was a good "investment".

>>132818822
I hope to see some actual help for the people who got screwed this time but it will probably just be found two of the (((banks))) getting MUH TO BIG TO FAIL gibs with absolutely no meaningful consequences for the people who caused the problem.

>>132812066
because retarded people keep paying them, smart people get a library card, you learn the same things for pretty much free without some commie jew trying to brainwash you

>>132812464
This is what I'm currently doing. 2 years at a CC, then finish up at a 4year while still doing summer classes at the CC. I'm paying less than half what my peers will

With my choice of good but fair priced university, my savings from high school paid for it. Parents chipped in some too, but I could have gotten a part time job and easily covered the costs.

If I didn't get a scholarship, I would have just done trade school. Hell, I'd probably be making more than I do now.

>>132812066

>private college

WOW, IT'S LIKE THERE ISN'T THIS WHOLE SYSTEM OF STATE SCHOOLS THAT ARE RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE AND UBIQUITOUS ENOUGH THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN COMMUTE TO AT WORST.

>>132812066

Cheap credit will destroy the world

And a govt that allows scamming, like in the student loan and healthcare industries

>>132812066
>MARRIAGE COSTS COULD TOTAL AS MUCH AS 19 MILLION DOLLARS. THE MOST EXPENSIVE MARRAIGES CAN COST THAT MUCH

why is this allowed.

>>132819272
Hopefully you aren't majoring in a meme degree

To all the youngins out there, if you are majoring in stupid shit, either switch to something better or just drop out, it's not worth it.

>>132815527
The government literally does have control of education and thats why it is so fucking expensive you god damn retard. Not only that, but since they are government and are filled with literal kikes top to bottom, they continuously spend money on useless shit instead of on academics (aka football and sports cancer).

My university, PS(JEW) just put out a $125 million dollar STARTING proposal to redo the football stadium(that is just the initial investment, not the final cost) meanwhile the engineering buildings are in disrepair and multiple building have had structural damage in the last year. BUT NO, they said they will pull necessary funds from (((student fees))) (aka hike tuition) and give the stupid niggers that play nigger ball more gibs. They spent over a million dollars feeding the stupid nigger ball players last year. A MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS. And since they are technically under control of the feds, nothing can be done about it.

>>132815954
But I have autism

>>132819438
I'm trying to go medical school, which requires an ass full of pre-requisites, which is why saving money is my main goal atm. If I fail to get in I'll just get a teaching cert and try to undo some of the socialist brainwashing that's done on our youth

It's bullshit.

College is like a giant all included villa vacation.

All you need is some books a room and somebody to teach. At least for undergrads. The rest is fucking criminal. Society pays dearly for this charade.

I saw a legit study that showed, kids don't really have any better critical thinking skills after this anyway. and they are bankrupted!

It primarily about paying for the credential. It's like they hold a key to a (chance at) a half decent future and they are blackmailing you for all they can get.

Fuckers. I'd tell my kids get a specific skill for a reasonable cost and try hard to be an entrepreneur.

>>132819789
Stick with it, most shit in the medical field is legit.

You'll be leaps and bounds better off than your peers who are studying dumbass shit like English or Sociology

>t. community college dropout but managed to find an OK job anyway

>>132812066
>muh free market

>>132816065
Army
>Blackhawks
>75th Rangers
>Owning urban environments

Navy
>SEALS
>Blowing shit up from 600 miles away
>Carriers raining hell

Marines
>Killing shit on beaches
>Killing shit in the sandbox
>Eating babies

Air Force
>Getting to run in gym shoes
>Always knows where to play golf
>Air conditioning


You have to be joking, right?

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Anyone who complains about college being too expensive is implying directly that they have no ambition to be in the top 99% of quality and commitment when it comes to their career field.

Yeah I do think it's expensive if you're a dumb cunt who doesn't do internships, school clubs, community service, only gets low A's and high B's and thinks he DESERVES a job just for having a diploma.

You can kindly fuck off.

>>132819981
>kids don't really have any better critical thinking skills after this

It probably leaves you less able to think critically than before you went in.

>>132812066

Literally no reason to go to an expensive college unless you know you'll have an expensive career.

And no, I don't mean you hope your expensive college will land you an expensive career.
You should know before you go that someone already wants you or you have some sort of connection when you get out.

>>132812443
>I have a MSc in Chemistry from Penn and I work at a car dealership.
>Penn's fault you made shit choices
Lazy fuck.
You're on /pol/, I already know YOU'RE your biggest problem.

>>132820288
I agree, if you didn't get into Harvard or Princeton you deserve to starve to death!!

>>132820544
If you didn't get into a top-tier university, you have no business being in a university unless you're getting jobs in demand.

If you want to be a scientist or a politician, neck yourself if you think you deserve it from going to a state school and not having a near 4.0 GPA.

>>132820288
You are a dumb shit if you don't worry about where the money is coming from and where it is going, there is an entire education complex that is bleeding us dry and taking advantage of and ruining the lives of young people, when the bubble pops it's not going to effect just them, it's going to ripple through the entire economy and probably cause worse effects than 2008, your degree might not even matter at that point

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>>132820099
>Thinks there is a free market for colleges
If the government keeps guaranteeing loans and raising the caps which they've been doing for years that's not a free market. They would literally be stupid not to charge as much as possible when the government and retards like you think the answer is merely the government will fix it. THEY FUCKING BROKE IT! College use to be fucking affordable as fuck before the government got it grubby hands on it. The government turns everything it touches to shit in terms of cost.

>>132814592
He could work at any food company.
He could work for any pharmaceutical company.
He could work in an oil company.
He could work in transport.
He could work in aeronautics.
He could work in mining.
He could work in aerospace.

The list goes on. An MSc in chemistry is a golden ticket if you're not a complete fuckup.

Go into the trades for a couple years, then go into inspection. Easiest job on earth, no debt, great pay, most inspectors are retiring soon, and a perfect mix of moving around and desk work.

>>132820679
I take it you are a Steven Crowder fan
I too enjoy listening to that faggot

>>132820659
It's a bubble because of exactly what I said.

>Everyone thinks they can go to college and a magic wand enchants them to get a 100k+ job
>colleges are now bigger than ever, having to hire most staff, expand their businesses, have more funding, etc.
>tuition goes up
>people take out loans for college so now literally EVERYONE can go and tuition isn't a deterrent

Surprise surprise! Most people are completely fucking average and don't deserve that 100k+ job.

When the bubble bursts, people who actually are in a college fraternity, have extracurricular, have internships, and who have that near 4.0 GPA will still be employed.

No one wants you when they exist and they do.

>>132820099

No money down government loans means that colleges can charge so much more than if those types of loans exists. Its basically the same cause of the housing crisis.

>>132812066
Capitlized education.

They already water down government instituted schools so that people who don't go to private have a clear disadvantage.

The realization is that if everyone was the same, no clear distinction can be made.

But government money is being manipulated in a capitlized system. So it's contradictory because it relies on people not to live off the system.

Doesn't work when we instute welfare. Which just waters down the base dollar past a certain paradigm.

36 chess is realizing that there are so many dimensions to corruption that even chaotic uproots can systematically, and mechanically, be a higher prestige of thinking.

The real question is, why would anyone choose to pay it unless they had a very specific purpose for doing so?

Spending $334k and going on to graduate summa cum laude from Yale to then go through Yale Law is something you can pay off in a handful of years after graduation. Spending $334k for a sociology-related degree is something you will almost certainly never pay off.

Anyone who falls in the latter category brought it on themselves and should be turned into horse food.

>vy leagues "network" aka practice nepotism
>Ivy leagues form the lobbyist, fundraiser and political elites
>they weed out nonviables by mutual connections and fundraisers rather than policy or intelligence
>entite government is based around people getting elected and taking bribes from fellow ivy leaguers
Blacklist of ivy league nepotist in government when?

>>132821213
this guy gets it.

>>132821276
people always do that and always will

Kind of not related but I'm in the process of taking my father to court for forging my signature and taking out an insane amount of extra student loans to pay the mortgage on his house that defaulted anyway. Make 75K a year as a CPA and barely can afford to live with 110K of loans.
If the government never subsidized tuition costs they wouldn't be as high as they are today. Now any idiot that shit the bed in highschool can get gibmedats to get a sports marketing degree

>>132821213
Because they've been brainwashed by their teachers and professors into thinking that all degrees are worth it no matter what, and since professors and teachers are considered to be the among the smartest people in society (yeah I know it's a laughable notion), they just take the bait hook line and sinker. When they realize their meme degree won't get them any kind of job they vote for people like Bernie Sanders because he'll make college free and maybe forgive everyone's student loans and then create government jobs which have 0 use or utility to the public, and the existence of said jobs in itself is charity, and everyone will fly around on rainbows and live happily ever after, the end.

That's about all, peace out.

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>>132814737
This, thanks to government loans the colleges can charge whatever the fuck they want and people will still have a way to get the money for it. In reality a lot of the current crop of college students shouldn't be going to college at all, women's studies majors, black studies majors, etc, are people who should be working as baristas, waiters, receptionists, and so on. We've always had people who were too dumb/lazy for management or higher education, but in the past they'd be pushed towards careers more their speed. This class of people, the Bernie Bunch if you will, "belong" in lower middle class jobs like administration, sales or some of the easier trades. Today we send them to college for four years of women's lit or whatever and then four years later we stick them in a Starbucks where they make $10 an hour and have $50,000 in debt. Really even if college was free and we forgave student loans the Bernie Bunch would still be fucked, they should have never been in college to begin with.

>>132821490
(((they))) however must be stopped without being named, what better way to strike back than targetting institution that cater mainly to them

It's basic supply and demand. Typically, prices rise and fall until there is an equilibrium met between the number of people willing to purchase the product, and an ideal amount of profit per person. If a company can raise the prices by some unit amount, and that amount is able to pay for the decrease in buyers, they will do so. Similarly, if a company can make more money by decreasing prices by some unit amount, and the number of new buyers would pay for the decrease in profit per buyer, they will decrease prices.

In the case of a college education, demand is what we call inelastic. That is, changes in prices don't tend to cause people to think "I'm going to consider doing something else in life." They've been told since birth that if they don't get a college education, they're going to end up flipping burgers for a living, and they're offered loans that will be guaranteed regardless of whether or not they're ever going to be able to pay for it. As such, prices will continue to increase forever until the government is unable to pay for education.

Other things that are fairly inelastic are fuel costs. But at the very least in the case of gasoline, when it is too expensive, people choose to take public transportation to save money, or the opt for cars with better gas mileage moreso than they would otherwise. Almost never do you ever hear someone say, "maybe I shouldn't go to college."

>Why is this allowed?
This is a stupid question. Everything is allowed until someone makes it not allowed.

>>132822091
Don't be dumb. Everyone with a brain practices nepotism because it ensures loyalty and thorough cooperation.

Do you really believe if you did away with Jews people would stop using nepotism, lying, cheating, and conspiring in positions of power?

>>132812066

#SuburbanRetardProblems

Meanwhile I'm making $70k as a journeyman plumber, will be making 6 figures once I become a master in a few years

Am I the only one that thinks a degree shouldn't cost more than $25K? It's a long term investment after all, but it shouldn't fucking cripple you financially outright.

>>132821994
>there are no jobs in my feild

Better vote for somebody who will squander taxpayer money to create jobs in your bullshit "feild" then

>>132812066
Those are private schools. If you're stupid enough to pay for them then so be it. It's the public university's that charge 60k for a bachelors that we should target

>>132812066
because idiots refuse to go to their local state schools

>>132820099
Its not tho

>>132812066
If we stop giving out student loans, college will get cheap again.

>>132822558
The money is still being pumped in through tax money though, just because the state school is lower on tuition costs for the student doesn't mean it's not being heavily subsidized by tax paying citizens and/or future generations, this is the basic problem, no matter how you slice it there is too much money being pumped into the education system and there's literally 0 incentive for colleges to compete with each other and lower prices.

>Australian Unis are 10k per yer for basically any course.

Get cucked on Ameritards. Stay dumb plox.Thanks bae.

>>132822243
That shit fucks up your back and joints etc. in the long run, no? Ditto for electrician work.

The sewage end of plumbing sounds like a nightmare...I've heard of everything from oceans of shit from neglected leaks to reaching in shit to fix things.

>>132812443
I have a CS degree from a small shit school and started a software engineering position with a $70k salary and decent benefits at age 22. Not eye-popping, but certainly respectable and a comfortable wage.

Anyone who says STEM is a meme is either A) a completely asocial autist who disgusts people in interviews or B) didn't bother to do internships in college. Neither of these people indicate what opportunities STEM can afford you, and they deserve no pity.

>>132819118

Unless you cosigned a loan that is responsible for the debt, you do not inherit a dead relative's debt no matter what the debt is for or what their relation to you is. Collection agencies may try to bully a survivor into paying for his or her dead relative's debt but you are under no legal obligation to do so except for the cosigning scenario. A person's debt dies with them, though collectors can take from their estate to make up the difference.

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>>132813685
>That means you were a dumbass who didn't know how to network. Networking with average grades gets you way, way farther than good grades and insufficient contacts.

if you were in a science field you would realize grades for better or worse don't mean shit, it's entirely your publication record: the journals you published in, your authorship position, citations for publications, etc..

in other words gas yourself for speaking about something you know nothing about

>>132812066
because it was only meant for certain people at first now everyone has to go and banks and colleges love jewing them as hard as possible remember you can't default on those college loans goyim

I've always wondered how the geeky STEM school Harvey Mudd costs $70k a year. More than Harvard, and these graduates are not going to be making the banking bux the country club school grads get (no name recognition).

Most expensive CS degree in the world.

>>132812066
So... Universities are scam artists basically?

>>132812443
>masters in chemistry
What the fuck did you expect?

>>132813377
A lot of these colleges are top 20 world though, so you pay it because you have uber confidence that it pay off for you long term.

>>132822903

Just like going to the gym, you can fuck things up if you don't use proper form / precautions. (lifting with your back instead of your legs, trying to carry something you can't lift instead of getting help, crawling / kneeling on concrete without knee pads).

It is hard work for sure, but nothing we can't handle. We evolved to do hard work after all, not to sit around all day.

>>132812066
DONT FUCKING GO.
sooner or later they will have to drop their costs.

>>132823264
>I've always wondered how the geeky STEM school Harvey Mudd costs $70k a year. More than Harvard, and these graduates are not going to be making the banking bux the country club school grads get (no name recognition).

Banking no, but in STEM Harvey Mudd carries huge weight. There are all kinds of schools that don't register on a normal retard's radar because they aren't muh Ivy, but that actually carry huge weight in whatever their specialty is (which is at the end of the day much more important).

Good examples of this include HMC, Rose Hulman, Colorado School of Mines, Michigan Tech, and several others. I bet most (((committees))) putting together lists of the best colleges don't know half of them exist, but they consistently top ROI charts which is way more important than (((publication prestige)))

>>132823642
I only knew Harvey Mudd because this one internet guy called Day 9 went there and he doesn't seem that elite though he made a nice little life for himself.

>>132816108
spoken like a true beta manlet i know plenty of guys that are 70 and still doing trade work while cubical plebs are all obese these guys are still as fit as when they where 40

>>132813685
>dude STEM is all that matters!!!
>dude networking is all that matters!!!
kys stemnerds

>be me
>highschool dropout
>get GED and start in shitty fast good
>get certified in food management
>quit
>use certification to work in middle class restaurant
>slowly work up to store manager
>quit again and get a job in upper class restaurant
>make 25 dollars an hour
Fuck you and your bullshit degrees. Experience and networking is all you need in life. Stop falling for the college meme.

>>132823795
That's pretty much how it is. You get rewarded for doing a bit of research and selecting a small school with disproportionately large weight in its field instead of picking DUDE BIG STATE SCHOOL FOOTBALL SORORITY SLUTS LMAO. My school barely cracks top 100 nationally in the US News and Report college rankings, yet is top 5 by median ROI (for the record Harvey Mudd is #2, link related).

Plus while those smaller schools have huge tuitions, they give out scholarships like candy. If you're paying full tuition it's because you aren't smart enough to go to that school and they know you'll fail out before paying a full four years

http://www.payscale.com/college-roi

>>132824125

Sounds like my brother. He dropped out of college, became a bartender, got a gig catering a bar for a nice event, then took it from there.

Making twice as much as my sister who has a master's degree

>>132818099

I did the math for my school and the meal plan came out to $18 per meal, or $54 per day,which is still completely fucking retarded.

$80 per day is just pants on head.

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>>132820288
>top 99%

well I know someone who didn't do anything worthwhile in college

>>132820929
They think they HAVE to go to college because their told that's what they have to do to be successful
They think they CAN go to college because it's easy for a kid to get a loan to pay for it.

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>family is rich
>go to pay for semester
>1 line of like 200 people for those that have loans
>3 completely empty lines for people that just pay in full

Whenever there was a conversation about how hard it is to pay for school I had to lie because I was the only person that didn't take any loans at all.

>>132824428
The whole dogma of "you need college to be anything and make money" is amazing. I currently make more than most members of my family who went through college and am happier with my life than they are. Most complain about how little their degrees mean and talked shit when I left school to start working.

>>132812066
Cause people are retarded and go to private colleges for their undergrad. Went to a community college for my Associates and then went to a State College for my Bachelors. Graduated with 8k debt and that's because I took like 6k out for a car and other shit(low interest rate). I've been out of school for 2 years and the debt is gone.

>>132820278
The airforce alone can wreck all the others without even getting dirty.

Supply vs demand = price
Taxpayer guaranteed loans plus left wing brainwashing creates outlandish demand for college, while supply remains the same, so price skyrockets.

Then, on the flip side, demand for labor with degrees remains the same, while supply skyrockets, causing wages to decrease.

Pretty much a worst case scenario for ppl going to college. Less people should go to college, the NPV doesn't make sense for 90%. Start a business or learn the trades right out of high school.

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>"College teaches critical thinking!"
>it actually just teaches you how to be lazy and bullshit authority figures as hard as possible.
>also tries to brainwash you if you go to a particularly leftie school

Did a year then left and never looked back, even rural community colleges are cesspools.

>>132819789
Medical school is shit, and residency is shit. Be prepared for shit, if you decide you really want to do it. Just don't go to a DO program, or go to a Caribbean school. If you can't get into a US MD program, you're too dumb/lazy to be a doctor.

>>132813377

If you aren't an idiot, you actually get paid to go to grad school. And the idea that an undergrad degree from one school is worth more than one from a different school is mostly a meme.

>>132825073
Yes by calling in the marines.

>>132825073
No friend, you are thinking of the navy, who has more planes than you

>>132812066
because colleges can charge as much as they want since they are guaranteed money from the government through student loans

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>>132825073
>The airforce alone can wreck all the others without even getting dirty.
Pretty sure you're thinking of the navy.
>More planes than an entire branch dedicated to flight.

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>>132812066
It's the results of your retarted voting habits are you surprised?

>>132812066
Who cares? Fuck college. I make more money as a tradesman than any of my friends who went to university.

>>132820774
Don't you need political connections to get into that?

>>132825682
What did you wind up pursuing as a career? Trades?

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>>132812066
>mfw when just paid my taxes and went to a reputable public school in my state for my baccalaureate
><$60k total
><$20k debt

>>132831541
Wound up cooking actually, started off by learning in a diner that someone I knew runs and then I wound up moving upstate and working for a steakhouse in a fairly small city. I seriously considered learning to weld, but man I fucking hate the sun.

Even more so than learning a trade or something I would recommend learning to make friends. Whether we like it or not, Nepotism is still real as fuck.

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>>132812443
Meanwhile I was a Neet for 3 years and now have a government job here in make 1500 dollars a month pretty comfy.

Didn't even went to college and I didn't even finished high school

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>>132812066
>(((Why is this allowed?)))

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lELfFoWFfA

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

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>>132816108
My grandpa lived til 107 and guy was a hard worker patron

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>>132812066
>what are scholarships and grants

>>132813377
you answered your own question

>>132812443
Wow. You must fucking suck dick during technical interviews.

You have to be a grade A moron to not have even a large company scoop you up.

>>132812066
Some people have to go to $40K/year private schools. Many schools thrive off of international and out of state students now though.

>>132813916
>>132813956
Explain Catholic or non-Jewish colleges and universities?

Loma Linda is Seventh-day Adventist.

>>132815696
"Computer Science" is something that only exists in Universities. Programming is what exists in the real world, and it's pajeets and chins who will be doing it.

>>132835843
Yeah basically. School is pretty ineffective at teaching you how to program, but you should be using those opportunities to network and have some practice.

Being a halfway decent white guy will get you a comfy paying job. Pajeets don't know how to code for shit.

>>132835843
>>132836215
Schools I've been to usually have C++ or Java classes.

>>132812066
Free market. I don't see the issue. Having a degree tells me you're not intelligent enough to work for me anyway, so it's a good way to weed out shitheads.

>>132812464

Just spam your resume online, I did and a defense contractor contacted me and offered me a job. My major wasn't even comp sci my minor was.

>>132836666
>checked
Yeah but they don't teach essential principals for real world scenarios. C++ How to debug a memory dump of a program crash? How to understand what is template hell and how to avoid it? What are smart/unique (and for windows, com) pointers. What is RAII and how do scope guards work? In Java what is type erasure? How to effectively serialize and deserialize objects? How to work with unsigned values despite being in a signed only language? Or for all languages, what's actually performance critical in the real world? In theory, theory and practice are the same thing, but in practice they aren't. What' are cache misses and how can that have a greater performance impact than big-O complexity? etc

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>>132812443
I seriously doubt you have that degree because if you did (and got okay grades) you'd be able to get a job with any of the major Chemical producers/providers.
Go contact DOW for christ's sake. Be willing to relocate

>>132837342
Don't know, never took the classes.

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>>132815696

>>132812066
Jews

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>>132812443
>not putting in time for GI Bill
>not graduating college completely debt free
>not going to a private college you would never afford without GI Bill
>not going into Finance to out jew the jew

See you in hell plebes. You should have realized how fucked we are as a generation and nutted up to sign the contract.
>LMaO gO BaCK 2 LEDDIT IsRaeli PuPpet!

I'm not the one who's in $6,000,000 sheckles of debt to mr Goldbergstein for a meme computer degree, and I got to witness dunecoons explode as live entertainment. What the fuck have you virgins done?

>>132839279
Yeah that's fine and I've heard that before, but the sentence still doesn't make sense. Why would he "bet that CS is actually a science"? It's like he's. Oh. I just realized the word "think" is missing. I bet you [think] Computer "Science" is actually a science. Now it makes sense

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Let's play a game. Post the most expensive school in your state, undergrad or grad

Here is USC pharmacy

>>132840131
Those fees are enragingly unjustified and unfair. Thats fucking In-state tuition?

>$55 for an upperclassman to give you a guided tour, shit gift bag of pencils and a powerpoint show
>hundreds of dollars for a medical fee when the school probably requires you to have health coverage anyway

This kind of shit should be fucking illegal.

>>132840368
USC is private

>>132812443
But senpai CS is a math, not a science

>>132840394
private schools are such rip-offs

They had value a few years ago as being places that werent totally pozzed to hell with SJW shit. Im going to a fucking catholic college that had a reputation of being against that shit.

What do I see when I go? Posters saying shit like "we dont say 'i dont see color' because it marginalizes the experiences of POC" and so on.

I'm going to be doing some bulletin board shitposting I reckon

>>132812066
Because education is not a right. You educate yourself if you want or you don't, but you have to earn it. Serve and get the GI Bill, or work to pay your tuition. Only those who earn it will get education; those who don't will not and should not.

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>>132840755

>graduated from large state school
>didn't have too much SJW bullshit (it's a very red state)
>however, about a year after the trial they invited Treyboon's mom to give a speech and plastered fliers for it everywhere
>had a couple night classes that semester
>buildings were usually empty after those classes ended
>tore down so many of those fliers

>>132812066
Because you should make at least 90-100k/yr out of college so you should be able to pay off the loan in around 5 years time

>>132813799

Fuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhcccccccckkkkk yooouuuuu

>>132812066
this is allowed because we have the internet to tell us information now, and for free too, and without being dictated to from a bias lecturer, and without having to leave the house

>>132812443
bull fucking shit

>>132812443
>chemistry
I know two chem PHDs. Both went back for bachelors in biochemistry and are teaching that. Chemistry is useless unless you want to teach or have connections at dow.

>>132839823
I'm starting my first year in business this fall and I plan to out jew the jew in finance :^)

>>132813685
>>>132813946 >>132814051 >>132814592 >>132815696 >>132816664 >>132820481 >>132822964 >>132823407 >>132834271 >>132835498 >>132837554 >>132839823 >>132840439 >>132844125

you guys see the French flag? in france your degree is worthless no matter what.

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>>132844534

>>132814051
>started a non profit

Of what benefits do u speak, white devil?

>>132812443
>chemistry degree
S H I T
P A Y

>>132821994
how stupid are people. Pay some huge amount of money to get a degree in a field where there are no jobs.

>>132845947
Nah. My nephew makes good money. He has a masters in chemistry and is a scientist 2 now, I think.

>>132820651

Like why though? Are fellas getting stem degrees with these criteria
>Top tier school & top tier grades
The only ones getting jobs?

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>>132812066
Because college has become a cesspool usury system instead of benevolent societal improvement.

>>132816614
>leaf
>doesn't realise most tradies get out before usual retirement age because they've managed to get enough cash to get assets to work for them thus if you stick around you're the only asshole left to wear the white hat
checks out

>>132812443
>He didn't get a degree in Chem Engineering
You dun goofed

>>132821994
>"Feild"

Good to see you got your money's worth.

>>132812443
>chemistry

Nice meme.

>>132812066
>most expensive

>>132840131
Massachusetts here, I win this contest.
Williams College costs upwards of 66k every year if you live on campus.
It makes me think. If I just invested 264,000 at 18, in 50 years, wouldn't I have something upwards of a million dollars? You would really need a damn good education to make that ever worth it.

>>132846009
These people grew up well fed, that's why.
Everyone I know who fell for the "do what makes you happy" meme never had to struggle, never knew what it was like to piss in the sink to save water. They grew up with everything handed to them and their parents never taught them that you need to work hard and do things you don't enjoy in order to live well.
>>132848976
One typo on a board for anime enthusiasts and his entire education is invalidated.

The entire system works based on the fact of locking you into debt slavery. When you don't pay off the debt they resell it.

keep breeding another generation of the unwilling led by the unqualified doing the unnecessary for the ungrateful

>>132812066
Communist academia.

>>132818099
>>132824435
Mine was $9 per meal, y'all

>>132813377
Kike teachers will hammer high school students with the idea that they will be poor if they don't go to college, and that a degree will guarantee that you get rich doing exactly whatever you want to do in life. That's why you have so many retards taking in massive amounts of debt for liberal arts degrees that are worthless. They were led to believe you can make $200k+ a year with a degree in something stupid like "television production."

>>132847364
Isn't petroleum engineering the way to go?

>>132812066
It won't get that high because people won't pay for it. Fucking retarded statistics 101 from a community college level logic at work there.

>>132820974
>tfw I also have a no money down home loan from the USDA
Gotta work the system, anon. Of course, I had much more knowledge about how hit works and what I could actually afford after going through school, so I got a cheap mortgage in a quaint semi-rural area and commute 15 minutes to work.

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>>132812317
The cost has gone up this high, and only in America, for a similar reason healthcare did.

Because some people were having trouble paying the somewhat high costs of college, the government decided it would inject itself into the system and offer up your taxdollars to pay whatever cost was required for Danisha and Tyrone and little Jose too.

Now when you run a business and you are sure to be paid for what you sell, naturally the next thing to do is increase the cost of that thing to make more money. College in America is a giant racket both cultivated and perpetuated by liberal politicians. And it has the added bonus of peddling liberal doctrine with the official gloss and esteemed title of 'college educated'.

Tear it down.

>>132812066
>Goto state college instead of private elite
> Pay 24k for 4y degree.
Common Nobody is surprised that Harvard and MIT want 300+k

>>132812443
Nice LARP there, kid. Probably dropped out of high school.

>>132813685
>>132813946
>>132814051
>>132814592
>>132814832
>>132815696

>lol, higher education is shit, unless it's a STEM degree
>lol, STEM degrees are useless unless you network
>lol, networking is useless if you aren't ready to suck cocks at job interviews
>lol, sucking cock for a wrong company is useless, you have to predict company's future and your career in it 20 years ahead because MUH FREE MARKET

At these people call other people cucks.
Fucking /pol, you're the cuckiest cucks on the whole fucking planet.

>>132812066
Everytime I think about how I will graduate university then probably work my ass off for others until I die I feel depressed

>>132823050
Can attest to this. I know a post doc in chem who said 1000 citations is what's considered good when looking for a job.

>>132812066
Because educated people don't make good poor people, and the U.S. is on its way to being South American tier dogshit.

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>>132853543
and the woirst part is libshits dont understand that when everyone has a degree, the entire point of going to college - that is a one-up on your competition, and academoic enlightnment is moot.

The quality of teachers plummets
The quality of learning plummets
People who SHOULD NOT BE IN COLLEGE are in college
and the citizens have to pay a horrific tax for it all.

And these fucking retarded libshits want college to be
>Free!

Fuck that noise. Liberals are the death of college. They call it the Liberal arts, because to fuck up such a long-standing and gorgeous system of enlightenment, and education is an Art-Form. Though im sure a lot of retarded neocon politicians helped that too.

>They Killed art
>They Killed Music
>Architecture
>Family Values
>Sexuality
>Education on sexuality
>Educatuion in general


When everyone has access to something the quality will ALWAYS go down! make college what it should be.... for the elite, the ultra determined, and the gifted. Keep the wastrels of society OUT!

>>132812066
Anyone who thinks that's acceptable is completely brainwashed.
Anyone who would go together college in America is brainwashed.

>>132851417
>If I just invested 264,000 at 18, in 50 years, wouldn't I have something upwards of a million dollars?


What was the purchasing power of 1 USD in 1967 and what it is now. In 50 years 1 million bucks will be like 10000 today, if not less.

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>>132820288
>Anyone who complains about college being too expensive is implying directly that they have no ambition to be in the top 99% of quality and commitment when it comes to their career field.

Holy shit, an actual entitled WASP. Time to roll out the red carpet to the gas chamber for you traitors.

>>132812066
because the chinese are willing to pay for it

>>132835498
this. i'm head of IT at a finance office and i haven't even graduated

>>132844534
Yes I understand arabic speakers have trouble reading the President's English on the diplomas

>>132841783
well done lad