Honest thoughts on Varg and Paganism.

>>132802225

i eat ass on the first date?

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>>132802225
A fucking joke.

Pagans seem to think that the height of European culture was living in wooden huts and niggering more advanced societies. Germanic Pagans especially.

They seem to regard the post Enlightenment Europe as "degenerate" and regard Christianity as instrumental in flooding Europe with muslims.

This is of course ignoring the fact that Socialism only took root in the West after the 60's when Christianity had started to wane massively. Also ignoring the fact that the EU is run by Jews and militant atheists.

Also like to jerk off to the Nazis, despite the only pagan among Hitlers inner circle being Himmler, who was the most ratlike and despicable of the whole lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM

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Varg's an autist but some of the things he says and does are agreeable and righteous. He comes out with some really autistic shit though, so I can see why so many on /pol/ can't take him seriously at all.

Paganism is great, pic related. The Deusfags can suck my left nut.

>>132802225
Varg is shit, paganism is decent.

>>132802225
I respect that he wants Europeans to return to their Pagan roots, but he's also a good goy. He believes that the "Israelis" have a rightful claim to Palestine.

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>>132802935
Came here to post this video. Pagans are kikes

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>>132802225
Saviour of the white race.

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>>132803096
LMAO

>>132803124
T W E N T Y
T H R E E
T I M E S

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>>132802935
lol what are the greeks ? did the ancient roman worship a fictional jew ? why did the i.q. of this board have to drop so drastically since the reddit invasion ?

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>>132803202

A mentally ill retard akin to the people that follow him

>>132802225
He's got truth behind him for the most part, although rose tinted.

The fact his entire ideology is "Let's wait on total societal collapse we've been told would happen since the 50s and when it does somehow Europe will be 100% European and we'll all be hunter gatherers again" is what makes him a LARPer, not the paganism.

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>>132803220
BASED JEWS

Wtf I love Rabi Jeshua now!

>>132802225

Paganism is good. Christian Vikernes is an idiot that makes it look bad by association and I wish he'd just shut the fuck up about it.

Also pagans are useful idiots for (((them)))that engage in larping and divide and conquer bullshit. No surprise based on the autistic cunts that frequent those threads.

>>132803220
He's been corrected on that fact before, he'll come back with something to the effect of "Pagan Greece and Rome weren't REAL civilization".

>>132802225
I have no idea who this faggot is but he is already annoying me

>>132803461

Xianity only got civilization by bumping into it while riding the Roman's coattails.

>>132803718
Essentially, yes.

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>>132803426
LMAO! There are literally no better shabbos goys than evangelical zionists, you pathetic goon!

>>132803220
Institutionalized pedophiles where the state literally assigned children to adult males as sex slaves.

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>>132803220
>did the ancient roman worship a fictional jew ?
Yes in fact, they did. Google "Byzantine Empire".

>but da fucken xians ruined muh rome
Rome collapsed because of massive internal problems. The slave economy, something which was banned by Christians in the Occident, made the plebs economically obsolete. This created the need for the bread dole to keep the underclasses from rioting, establishing the welfare state.

Later on the Imperial system created a constant system of civil war, as Generals would constantly overthrow the Emperor and crown themselves.

Because of the free shit Gauls (Varg's ancestors) would flood into Italia to collect gibs. At one point they even invaded while claiming to be "refugees".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_War_(376%E2%80%93382)

Emperors would, to pay for the bread dole and to bribe their troops to help overthrow the old Emperor, would cut the silver content of the Denarius and then mint huge lodes sums of them.

With the currency debased and civic duty extremely low among the Latins, the West collapsed to invading Gauls. The Eastern half of the Empire, which was Christian, survived for another thousand years. Interesting, no?

>>132803718
> Xianity

jew detected

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>>132803968
I love this argument. Christ and the Apostles constantly decry the Pharisees as a bunch of murderers and thieves. Guess who wrote the Talmud? I'll give you a hint. Their name starts with an P, ends with an s, and existed around ~30A.D.

Christianity is inherently anti-Zionist, and anti-Semitic. In fact the whole point of Christ's divergence from the Jews was that the individual, not the creation of a state (Israel), is the true path to God. Furthermore he broke Jewish tradition by saying that anyone, Jew or Gentile, can find truth in his teachings, and that the kikes dumb laws like mutilating your cock and not eating shellfish, were unnecessary.

Because Christ claimed the Jews to be sinners and false believers they killed him, and were proud of it.

Matthew 27:22
>“What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.
>They all answered, “Crucify him!”
> “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.
>But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”
>When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
>All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
>Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.

>>All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
>>All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”

The bible says clear as day that the Jews killed Christ and claimed responsibility for themselves and their kin. The Israelis are either false Jews, in which they have no claim to Israel. Or if they are the people from the Bible, have the blood of Christ on their hands.

Any Christian who thinks otherwise is a heretic, plain as that.

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>>132802902
Who doesn't? if she isn't submissive, she's trash.
Period.

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>>132803220
Varg likes to lump in the Romans and Greeks when he rants on about how great paganism is, similar to how people lump all the types of cancer into just the one word cancer. But if we are looking at germanic and or nordic paganism it would be wooden huts and niggering. He would be viewed as an barbarian in the Greek and Roman culture. Reminds me of the premise of the Asterix cartoon; varg would be living with the Gauls eating roast boar, drinking druid piss, and shitting in the woods while Rome would flourish architecturally and culturally. despite the memes the "pagans" werent one united entity, and they weren't chummy.

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>>132802225
Fake & gay

It's just racist bullshit
All the lies of varg on Christianity... That hurts me so much

varg is a retard.
Paganism is infested with leftists but im fine with the nationalist ones.

>>132802225
Is paganism always LARPing or do some of its followers actually believe? The concept interests me, connecting with my ancestors, but I don't feel I could bring myself ever to truly believe

>>132810152
>connecting with my ancestors
Which ancestors do you want to connect with?

The ones that lived in huts and collected welfare from the Romans?
Or the ones that conquered the entire planet effortlessly?

>>132802225
He's right about literally everything, even and especially his choice in vehicles.

>>132802935
i cant help but to feel an ancestral connection between myself and neolithic paganism. it wasnt the height of european civilization, however if i must choose a stone age religion, without hesitation i am going to choose the one of the white man.

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Just Ascended Fedoras.

>still hell bound losers.

>>132810401
The ones that were ethnocentric and had dignity or the ones that unironically started worshipping a hostile foreign tribe like spiritual coalburners?

>>132810401
I guess you have a point, though I'm not sure if I would say Christianity was the force that allowed whites to conquer the Earth. Besides, it doesn't even matter for me in the ene, I can never bring myself to believe in any religion
>tips fedora

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>>132804402
>>did the ancient roman worship a fictional jew ?
>Yes in fact, they did. Google "Byzantine Empire".

>ancient roman
>byzantine empire

i will direct you back to my previous post which you may not have read in entirety, you low i.q. plebian. i can now unironically post this used up meme

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>>132811109
When does Rome end and Byzantium begin?
If you say it's the fall of the city, then saying the Romans were never Christians is just flat wrong.

Pic related says hello.

I'm the same, but I do want to learn about it more for cultural significance >>132810898

>>132811441
Same here. My family comes from Hungary and Finland, and I know so little about the pre-Christian practices of those countries and would like to study them more

>>132811393
constantine and his broood were the bastards who melded christianity with the roman pantheon and made the official religion of their fucked up weak empire. that was in like 400 or some time around there. when the julians and the flavians ran the empire they maintained the high preisthood of jupiter and they built many new temples in the east and north africa. that was over 2,000 years ago (and MUCH longer ago if you're talking about the romans etruscan ancestors who were highly civilized)

>>132802225
Varg isn't Paganism
I like watching his videos even if I disagree with much of what he says. I agree with the core of his message.

>>132811783
And yet it took over 1000 years for Constantine's city to fall.

>>132802935
>>132803096
>christcuck intelligence
The video literally criticizes Christianity and Goebbels was an opponent of Christianity, like every other high Rankin Nazi, Hitler was not a Christian either, he was just a theist. the whole Nazi movement came from pagan movements.

>>132811393
also you must understand that constantine and the roman elite came together and decided that they were going to meld christianity (which was the religion of foreign slaves and some of the poor of the empire) with traditional roman cosmology which is where we get catholicism

>>132810898
>though I'm not sure if I would say Christianity was the force that allowed whites to conquer the Earth
The technological revolution was caused by the Enlightenment, which had it's roots in Christian philosophy.

The Iberians conquered South America as a holy war to convert the natives from what they saw as Satanism.

>>132811886
yeah but they were unfortunately fucked and had nothing for like 500 of those years. there's a reason that whole period is called 'the dark ages' because civilized westerners fucked up so bad that chaos ruled and people had a shitty quality of life even if you did live within the walls of one those shitty little city states which is basically what constantinople was

>>132802225
He's a pathetic murderer and a loser. He's also retarded, stop posting him here.

>>132812463
>He's a pathetic murderer and a loser

i actually like varg a lot but i can't argue with that statement

>>132812463
>posting the murder meme
It was self-defense, retard. Euronymous was a crazy motherfucker, is it really that surprising that he tried to kill Varg?

>>132810152
There are plenty who actually believe. Stop by the next pagan general.

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pagan good
>varg is a snow coon welfare monkey that killed a fallow white person and larps in the woods for shekels

>>132812632
I'll keep a look out, thanks. I'm sure there'll be plenty of good information in there

>>132812463
>>132812608
>killing your "rival" that have threatened to kill you, that is also a complete degenerate
>Having 5 beautiful European children and living a peaceful life in the French countryside
>Being a famous artist
How is he pathetic and a loser?

>>132802225
entertainment

i dont get the whole anti technology message tho
the reason euros turned nations into plantations was because of glorious technology
technology is like 90% of everything that is beautiful and glorious in this world
technology is why we have our economy, security, quality of life, our ability to defend ourselves or dominate others, it all depends on technology, achieving any goal in life is dependent on technology

>lets forget about our faster than sound munitions with the precision over half of the planet and satellite navigation
>in order to eventually get invaded by nigger horde with aks
>or die from a plague we forgot how to deal with

technology is like 90% of everything that matters

>>132812427
Christ man where did you get such a skewed view of the medieval period? Do you think that medieval peasants never bathed, died at 30, and thought the Earth was flat?

1) fag

2) for fags

>>132812937
Join the discord once it's posted in the thread, there's less shilling there.

>being a famous artist
or
>jew-tuber
pick one

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>>132812990
>i dont get the whole anti technology message tho
One day, anon.

>>132812990
Read the work of Ted Kaczynski. He has redpilled views on liberals and he drives home a good anti-technology message. Ignore his ramblings about a revolution though. Too much technology can be harmful, it has forced us into increasingly unnatural ways of life and made our lifestyles increasingly sedentary. That doesn't me we run naked into the woods, but we need balance

>>132802225
Gay as fuck.

>>132802935
>They seem to regard the post Enlightenment Europe as "degenerate" a
The enlightenment was degenerate.

>ignoring the fact that Socialism only took root in the West after the 60's
You mean welfare capitalism.

>>132813519
nigger what coherent anti technology argument is there? what even is natural? saying
>'ooh we have to live more natural and also rainbows and happy thoughts'
is like listening to a leftist libshit rumbling that doesnt explain anything, doesnt convey any message, doesnt solve anything, doesnt explain why it is more desirable than x, it just provokes anger at this point

how do you even know that technology is against nature?? where is the proof???
you have a fascist flag, you should know that fascists achieved what they achieved with sturmgewehrs and stuka fliegers, how do you think they managed to do shit with inferior numbers at the start?????

>lets go be all butt naked and colonized in 20 years by semi literate arabs or i dont even know who
>because nature dude lmao

>>132813093
haha ok dude whatever. thought you wanted to know

>entire thread is filled with atheist LARP pagans denouncing Varg as a LARP pagan
You all know that to be a pagan you have to actually believe in a pagan mythology, right?

>>132803202
>/pol/ hates murder
>deus vult kill mudslimes throw commies out of helicopters gas the kikes race war now
When will this meme end?

FYI most of the Christian anti-Varg people are not white.

>>132812609
Self defense
>Euronymous plans to kill Varg
>Varg drives 5 hours to go "meet" Euronymous
>Varg shows up at night with a knife
>Euronymous opens the door for Varg
>According to Varg, Euronymous opens the door and kicks him and begins to flee
>Varg then persues him, knife drawn
>Varg then catches Euronymous, stabbing him 23 times in the back and head
>Varg proceeds to flee Euronymous' home
>Varg disposes of his bloody clothes and the murder weapon

>Varg at no point contacts the police after hearing about Euronymous' plot
>Varg at no point contacts to police to tell them he had to defend himself

Why would Euronymous open the door for Varg and then immediately attack him when he's unarmed?

How is Varg chasing down an unarmed man and stabbing him in the back at any point self defense? As soon as an assailant begins to flee, any notion of self defense is discarded.

>>132814170
Go primitive camping sometime, you'll understand.

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YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE COME HERE!

>>132814170
I said have a balance, retard. I'm not saying people shouldn't have computers or cars, I'm saying people shouldn't live in urban hellscapes, crammed in a cubicle for eight hours a day, sitting there. If you read my post, I mocked the idea of running off naked into the woods. I'm comfy here with my computer and I don't intend to leave it

>>132814170
>missing the point of his post entirely
Nazi's also preserved the environment.
Too much technology is a bad thing, it's one of the single biggest tools the Jew uses to promote degeneracy.

>>132814559
Not that running naked in the woods isn't fun, but I agree, a balance has to be struck. Can't wait till next month when I close on some land and can get to farming.

>>132814648
At least you actually read my post

Varg is not a pagan, he just hate christianity because he got lock up in a 'christian system'. He hates christians more than the (((others))), and has defended islam and muslims in various ocasions.

All that aside, the frugal and country life that he promotes is truly ideal when preparing for the colapse.

pretty based from an accelerationist viewpoint

>>132814115
>The enlightenment was degenerate.
Right. I guess we ought to toss out the internet, scientific method, telecommunications, medicine, and transportation while we're at it from being degenerate kike cuck shit. The only technology that should be allowed is wooden longboats and stone tools.

>welfare capitalism
Semantics. You that I meant the creation of the welfare state in Europe when I used the word "socialism".

>>132814816
>He hates christians more than the (((others)))
Traitors always first.

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>>132814739
That would be fun to try. I live in a suburban area, but have always wanted to get a small patch of land to live on. Nothing too isolated, but just isolated and rural enough where I don't have to constantly here the sounds of cars

>>132814816
>still believing in "le great prolapsecalypse"

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>>132814334
He was going to meet him anyways.
>As soon as an assailant begins to flee, any notion of self defense is discarded.
So the guy who had concrete plans to murder you will totally not murder you after you try to defend yourself right?
Euronymous was a seriously deranged, degenerate individual. One example: There was a bandmate called Dead who Euronmous encouraged to kill himself, who then did it. Then Euronmous took a neat picture (pic related) and made necklaces out of the guy's skull. But it's totally out of the realm of possibility that he would murder Varg, whom he hated very much.

What I don't get is the same people who call Varg a murderer are the same people that either want to throw commies out of helicopters, gas all the kikes, lynch niggers, and remove kebab.

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>>132802225
Modern paganism is inexcusable laziness,
The goods of old are easily understood as psychological archetypes expressed naturally but in different forms by the human mind

Read Jung, and maybe the I ching and Shobogenzo, illiterate ignoramus

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>>132802225
It would be interesting to take a time machine back to pagan times in northern europe. But trying to revive it in the modern day would be ludicrous.

>>132815250
Because most people saying those things are larping and will be the first ones to fuck off when it hits the fan.

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>>132802225
All politics and arguing shit aside, this man looks like he's /comfy/ as fuck. He has a pretty wife, cute children, and lives in a beautiful land. I want that lifestyle or at least something similar. I want there to be a day where I'm sitting down breathing in the clean air as I watch my children play in nature. No kids looking at normie shit on youtube with iphones. My wife isn't sitting on her ass telling me to just order out because she's too busy watching cunts argue on reality TV. No being surrounded by concrete, man-made structures, fake grass/trees to give the illusion of nature, and cars whizzing by making the air smell like death.

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>>132802225
I like both, if you can't get redpilled on Varg you aren't redpilled at all and are someone who will still fall for media bullshit.

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>>132815299
>Easily explained archetypes

Read Evola you illiterate mong, all gods have archetypes within them,that does not prove that metaphysical orders do not exist.

>>132815250
>So the guy who had concrete plans to murder you will totally not murder you after you try to defend yourself right?
That's not how a modern legal system works. If someone plans to kill you, contact the police. If the guy who "plans to murder you" is clearly fleeing and lacks a weapon he poses no immediate threat.

Varg chased Euronymous down four flights of stairs before catching him and brutally stabbing him over twenty times. He then disposed of the evidence from the stabbing. At no point, before or after the killing did he contact the police. The events, even from Varg's perspective, points to nothing but premeditation.

Even Blackthorn, who drove to Oslo with Vikernes, said that he went there with the motive to kill Euronymous.

>What I don't get is the same people who call Varg a murderer are the same people that either want to throw commies out of helicopters, gas all the kikes, lynch niggers, and remove kebab.

Violently opposing groups that want to violently impose a political system is NOTHING at all similar to killing a colleague over financial disputes or personal reasons. Warfare is not murder.

>>132816054
>when you talk about wanting to marry a white woman but remain unmarried despite having met lots of white women
Virtue signalling.

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>>132816226
Firstly of course concept within the mind can and at time do blend or play off one another
Second Metaphysical my ass, everything is explainable humans just have stupid monkey minds and are pig ignorant
Lastly Read Rupert Sheldrake's work on Morphic Resonance and/or the Electric Universe Theory if you want a more realistic explanation of out of body psychology

>>132802225
Varg is a cool guy, but he is either too blackpilled or paranoid and thinks there's an impeding collapse on all of society during our lifetimes.

Many christians will attack pagans because they think that modern european christianity and traditionalist paganism are separate, but infact many of the things that christians like about modern christianity are infact just pagan things, like the family values and the high festivals. Other than that it is a semitic religion. Right now neither are really represented properly, only cucked refugee welcoming christians and cucked hippie pagans are mainstream, so this isn't a very useful discussion

>>132815037
It's doable m8, I work in an ER so the drive is worth it for somewhere to be able to decompress (and shoot on my days off).

>>132816298
>jusd contad da bolice
hahaha you can't be serious.
Anyways the courts determined that he was in self defense, but they said that he defended himself too excessively and gave him the max sentence for that.
>premeditation.
Of course he planned to kill Euronmous. He planned this after he learned Euronmous was planning to kill him and knowing Euronmous, I wouldn't have doubted it at all.
>Violently opposing groups that want to violently impose a political system is NOTHING at all similar to killing a colleague over financial disputes or personal reasons. Warfare is not murder.
The mental gymnastics displayed in this is laughable.
Euronomous was a commie so Varg just gave him a symbolic helicopter ride via knife.

Disgusting LARPers like you will be the first to die in the race war.

>>132816785
>implying there isn't an impending collapse in our lifetime
Perhaps not to the extent Varg predicts, but the current trends in western civilization will doom it and sooner rather than later.

>>132817297
How will it go down, then?

>>132802935
the englightenment was a resurgence of thee worst aspects of the traditional world, whilst abandoning all the truly aryan tradition. enlightenment was trash you fucking nigger.

>>132816298
Idk lad, if someone is planning to kill me, I'll probably try to kill them before contacting the cops

>>132817426
In Europe it's already going down. There are no go zones where the police, fire department, etc don't go and there are riots all over.

In America it will probably go down in a second civil war resulting from a Trump assassination or another 9/11. We could also go nuclear with North Korea very soon.

>>132817426
South Africa, Civil War or Complete breakdown of nation states + balkanization basically causing another dark age. The latter being Varg's prediction, I think.
Dealer's choice really, South Africa seems the most likely to me.

>>132815023
The Scientific Revolution innovations doesn't mean "enlightenment". The Enlightenment was about "human rights" which lead to Marxism, Feminism, Minority rights, etc.

>Semantics. You that I meant the creation of the welfare state in Europe when I used the word "socialism".

No, Capitalism and Socialism is about ownership, not about receiving welfare.

>>132817727
That's pretty weak considering that you're describing a future not even WW2 came close to bringing about.

I just find it funny American Evangelicans are trying to fathom both Paganism and European Christianity.

Your idea of both is warped by a plastic vaneer that covers everything in America.

>>132817131
>Anyways the courts determined that he was in self defense
Provide a source that isn't a Varg video.
>The mental gymnastics displayed in this is laughable.
Killing individuals during peace time for personal reasons is murder. Killing enemy combatants during a time of open warfare is not murder. There's no mental gymnastics here.

>>132817673
If you kill someone who is fleeing from you, unarmed, and then dispose of the evidence you shouldn't be surprised when the courts find you to be a murderer.

>>132810152
>>132812632
they dont actually believe, they fool themselves into believing, deep down they know they are just retards

>>132818153
Sounds like most Christians I know m8.

>>132818153
I've actually been in most of the Pagan Threads.

I'd say I'm an agnostic Pagan. But because the way of worship in many Pagan Pantheons is Patronship, If my gods are just figments of my imagination, the idea of those gods and the ideals they provide are still useful on philosophical and spiritual levels.

I'm always willing to speak with people about these things.

>>132818056
>Americans
>Evangelicans (???)
Most Americans are not evangelicals, you bong. Stop watching bbc

>>132818688
You're all crazy sects of Protestants who worship god in very fucking strange ways.

>>132804297
Are you talking about the Catholic church?

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I dare anyone to prove this wrong.

>>132802225
>2017 Pagans

Cucks reclaiming religion from adventures who left their land years ago to settle elsewhere. Swedes aren't vikings, they're the cucks who stayed behind and/or the cuck slaves of weaker people. I guess you can't blame them for trying to hold onto something that helps them forget they're ruining their country and letting communists and islamic fundamentalists take it over, but it's pretty pathetic since they're still voting for cuckery meaning their Pagan bullshit is a bunch of LARPing.

There is a tier system of non-cucked people and it's entirely based on where adventurers and conquerors went. America is the very top of this tier system because it's where the most based % of all peoples on Earth went over many many generations, and then went at least 10 ranks up the tier system above everyone else after WWII.

Europe is full of cucks proven by how they're inviting Islam to assfuck them and literally take over their countries and how they need everything in their life regulated and can't do anything for themselves. Also by their inability to have free speech. As an American its like looking at an ape in the zoo when I hear about Europeans thinking being offended at speech is the same as violence. I ask myself "how can this ape from Europe possibly understand my American understand of freedom?", and the answer is they can't. Europeans are mentally incapable of knowing how to take a joke without calling the thought police. Europeans are emotionally unable to trade insults without turning in primitive crybabies.

Im talking about the French, British, Swedes, Germans, and those weenies btw. If you don't think your countries is that (it probably is) then maybe you shouldn't call yourself European since European is now synonymous with "the cucks who stayed behind".

USA = Alpha as fuck.

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>>132817975
The rights of the individual are the foundation of the West. Marxism is the very antithesis of this because they trample the rights of the individual.

Without the welfare state single mother and useless niggers would wither and die. Women would have to find husbands. Blacks would have to find jobs. Muslims and Spics would stay in their own countries because they can't leech off of the government. You don't need the state to enforce your morally pure ethnostate. Without the government actively pushing against it, it will form on its own. Try reading some Hoppe my dude.

The US ran for 150 years as a morally pure ethnostate with huge personal liberty and incredibly limited government. Universal suffrage was a mistake because the mob will vote for the prettiest face and the most gibs, not for the preservation of liberty. The Founding Fathers knew what was up.

Where did you learn such hatred for the moral and philosophical bedrock of your civilization?

This is what Varg-drones believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N8-jjQCg7o

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>>132819650
>There is a tier system of non-cucked people and it's entirely based on where adventurers and conquerors went. America is the very top of this tier system
10/10 laughs mate, thanks.

>>132819897
What democracies have collapsed since 1835?

>>132820248
You're living in one. The money just hasn't run out yet.

>>132819897

Individual agency, responsibility, and rights is also fundamental to Christianity in practice as it evolved in Europe.

There's a culmination of various histories and cultures in the West which freed the individual mind and soul from the tyranny of the group, and this took hundreds and hundreds of years to develop. It is what has allowed new ideas to flourish, technology and education to advance, and freedom to become sustainable.

Now these asshole marxists want to destroy it all and subject us back into tyranny of the group, which is what all the shit nations on Earth practice. What will we have then? Nothing. Ask China... they tried it in their cultural revolution and killed all of their best thinkers and talents, and they haven't invented anything since.

>>132820447
Literally worse than Marx tier.

>>132802935

romans and greeks were pagans

>>132802225
Meme tier

>>132820666
Nice try Satan.

Varg is a retard, as are pagans.

>>132802225
gayest shit i ever seen

>>132817297
True, and then only the the European warrior spirit shall prevail.
By the way, Christianity was forced by law, so if someone was a self proclaimed pagan they would be executed by the government for practicing witchcraft. But the ancient European ''christians'' loved Paganism which is why they incorporated it into their culture under the false name of ''christianity''
The templars were actually Pagan
Europe has always been Pagan

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>>132802935

I love that picture. Just imagine, those kids might be the great-grandfathers of some shitposters on /pol/.

The highest ranking knights of Templar worshipped the Pagan horned lord, Baphomet, which was a demonic representation of the Pagan spirit and black magick

>>132821420
>The templars were actually Pagan
>Europe has always been Pagan
WE WUZ

>>132821833
You know that was made up so the French justify robbing and disbanding the Templars, right?

>>132802225
The infighting with virtuous Christians is getting pretty fucking gay desu.

>>132802935
lol socialism only took root in the 60s. You are a true goof.

>>132822166
Many members admitted to renouncing Christ, spitting, trampling, and pissing on the cross, intercourse with demons, and gathering at the black sabbath, to worship the horned one at the mountain top.

>>132823667
In the West the welfare state was a post war creation. It had it's roots earlier, but it didn't begin to balloon to what it is today until the 50's and 60's.

>>132823806
After weeks of torture you can have people admit to anything. But Philip V was a good guy. There's no way he'd arrest the Templars under false pretenses and force confessions to steal their massive fortunes. No sir.

Neo nazis are amusing because they hate jews but love Christianity, a modernized Judaism. Old school nazis are just foolish in general.

The first and most fundamental flaw in your religion is monotheism, a construction of pre christian philosophers you likely have no familiarity with or real understanding of. The rest is just recieved wisdom with little or no questioning, and heaps of vacuous apologetics.

Truly the universe writhes with chaos and divinity, on that we do not agree, but the christians idiotic denial of life for the purpose of attaining a false prize promised by a trickster god is completely despicable.

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Even great Fa leaders like Hitler and Szálasi agreed upon that paganism/völkisch/nature worship had its part in history, BUT in this modern day and age it's mostly useless larping. Emphasis on mostly. Christianity represents much higher moral qualities, which makes it hard to establish a better religion. Since the average individual is not too bright, he needs guidance, in the form of Jesus's teachings.
That doesn't stop the intelligent man to seek even more universal truth and morality though.

About modern pagans: I dare you to look up user pics on a pagan dating site. The average pagan is the average low iq incel seeking enjoyment and escapism in obscure pastimes.
This does not mean I will not accept help from pagans to destroy the khazar race and its new world order.


Tldr pagans are teh larpers but we should still accept their help in the racewar.

Hugues de Payens (meaning of the Pagan) was the co founder and grand master of the Templars held a coat of arms which had three severed arab heads, which corrosponds to the Pagan black magick essence of Sacrificial wisdom, and to represent Baphomet himself, which means head of wisdom

>>132824242
It wasnt as it is today in the 60s. Ideologies all change with time.

Socialism and fascism were powerful forces before WWII. The welfare state is not an entire description of the reach of socialism.

>>132802225
Varg is the purest thing God has ever made, and God made him for his own sake.
I like Varg but he's crazy, his research is high school tier and he LARPs too much. He married a French national (not even a fellow Norwegian) and is pumping out kids to live off of the French State. It's nice that he has kids, but maybe he should live with the consequences of his actions in his own homeland, and find a wife who he can have a conversation with in a mutually understand language.
Also he claims he has blond hair but he has hair like mine, really light brown. Probably has the blonde gene since his daughters are blonde, but his sons are brown. His view on Christianity is Gibbon tier autism. Also he likes Tolkien way too much to be against European Christians.

Paganism is great, it's better than atheism, materialism, Marxism, post-modernism, positivism, and Islam.
It was the pagans who converted and the modern Christians who became heretics. If I had a choice between a modern """Christian""" and a pagan, I'd choose the pagan, at least they are sane.

>>132802225
faggot
anyone who is actually superior doesn't give out help without being asked first
he is insecure so he makes videos to trick people into thinking that he is some sort of ideological leader to boost his confidence which he was already lacking in.

Also paganism is for faggot larpers with no other reason than to pursue counterculture.

>>132824679
Are the Soviet Union and China part of "the West"? Sure there were fringe socialist groups but nothing substantive until the post war. The Nazis are the exception, but they were a much different animal than say the Labour parties.

White pagan guy who has had a boat load of white children.

Obviously all the the mongrels on /pol/ will hate him. He's a pretty cool guy though.

>>132802225
He's right about the not being able to vote ourselves out of this situation points he make

Everything else is verging on retarded

>>132825501
We hate him because he's a murderer who favors the muslim invaders over the Christians who made Europe into the powerhouse that it is today.

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>>132825728
>DEUS VULT!
>gas the kikes race war now!
>what?! Varg killed a guy?! wow just wow like I can't even right now

>>132803193
Never seen a single person refute that image.

>>132825501
He's not actually a pagan. He said so himself, he's an odalist, not an odinist. He doesn't believe in paganism or in pagan gods, not even as archetypes. He just likes primitive living.
His children are also only half white. They aren't pure Nordics since their mother is French.

>>132825231
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War

what are you saying. Let me clarify, socialism was a powerful and influential ideology before World War 2. It had most certainly "taken root" before the 1960s in the west, from where it originated.

>>132825879
>removing invaders is the same as murdering your own countrymen
t. Arab invader

>>132826003
>killing communists is bad
I think reddit is more your speed bud.

>>132825879
>waging war on ideological enemies over the fate of your nation
>premeditated murder of a colleague over money and reputation
>these are morally the same
Wew lad

>>132826003
Euro was half white and half Sami

>>132825955
I don't really understand where we disagree.

All I was saying is that socialism entered the mainstream in Western democracies in post-war with the creation of the welfare state. Obviously any political movement has decades of prelude before it becomes normalized in a democratic state.

Obviously fringe movements come to ahead in failed states undergoing civil war.

Am I wrong here?

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>>132802225

Varg's a great man who the Jews must fear judging by all the screeching on the board.

Can Christians handle honesty? Can Christians accept truth?

Christianity is a Jewish religion. All of the Canonic Gospel authors were Jewish (with scholars split on Luke) and Christianity exterminated OUR indigenous cultures and their historical record. Every modern historian acknowledges that the Goths and Saxons were not savages. People who don't build great cities are not automatically savages. You'd have to be a complete idiot and a traitor to believe our greatest races were savages.

People who say muh mud huts seem to be too retarded to realize that the Romans and Greeks were pagans and worshiped similar deities to Northern Europeans. Pro-White Christians who say that Europeans could not have flourished without a Jewish religion can't seem to process the absurdity of their positions. Honestly, it's just embarrassing and sad to me. I know you have a guilty conscience and understand you have a great emotional investment in Christianity but you have to big enough to step over this slave morality Jewish parasitism that is a sickly internationalist cancer to our people. How can you be a European and worship the Jewish religion? Being a Pro-European Christian is a hypocrisy.

I'd rely on really paying attention what the man has to say rather than relying on /pol/'s perpetual circle-jerk for enlightenment.

We need to embrace the religions which came from US, not Jews. Our blood, our soil, and our indigenous religions. Can you not see the insanity of admitting that we are reliant on Jews for our well-being? Paganism comes from us, not Jews. Christianity is a continuation of Judaism (no Christian can deny this fact) and you are effectively Jewish practicing this Jewish religion.

Christians need to at the very least stop flailing around at everyone who is strong enough to abandon Christianity because of what it is and what it's done and failed to do.

>>132810837
underrated

>>132826546
I suppose our disagreement is when you consider a political ideology to be large enough to be called legitimate. Socialists were influencing policy in western governments long before the 1960s. There were large socialist organizations almost a hundred years before the 60s. It is silly to dismiss it as fringe.

Even the welfare state has a history before the 1960s

>>132802225
Irritating faggot who quite possibly is autistic.

>>132826990
>Christians need to at the very least stop flailing around at everyone who is strong enough to abandon Christianity because of what it is and what it's done and failed to do.

Pro-White Christians*, I meant.

I couldn't care less about what most Christians think as every Christian must admit most are hopeless and even more are non-White!

If a collapse would allow for a sustained new non-Christian (non-Jewish) European order, that'd be just great by me.

How can you reconcile your Christianity when this literal hook-nosed kike is the one who inaugurated it and destroyed our cultures? Really, ask yourself. I don't get it.

Pro-White pagans aren't the ones who have to look in the mirror and explain themselves here.

>>132827637
>It is silly to dismiss it as fringe.
I didn't mean to dismiss. I was more speaking to the fact that since 60's socialistic ideas have become so engrained that people will look at you funny and start calling you pejoratives if you express even the slightest doubt of them.

Clearly they had roots before the war, see: basically anything FDR did, but it wasn't until the post-war period that they had become undebatable facts of policy.

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>>132828217
>How can you reconcile your Christianity when this literal hook-nosed kike

>pic related

>>132828217
>our cultures
What were the great cultural treasures that were lost after Europe converted? In what ways were that superior to the culture that came after?

Pagans pretty much all worshipped the same gods under different names.

Zeus (Greek), Thor (Scandinavia/Germanic), Perun (Slavic), Jupiter (Roman), Taranis (Celtic). All thunder gods that are so similar in description.

I wonder if the abrahamic religions stayed in the middle east how Europe would have turned out today. I feel like Christianity ruined our connection with nature, people now associate God with being invisible rather than looking for God in the rivers, trees and stars.

>>132802225
>Varg
Good guy. Rigid in his beliefs - that's respectable. I think he's too anti-tech but it seems to come from a good place in his heart. Talented musician.

>Paganism
I'd consider myself a pagan in spirit, or a pagan who just doesn't know it yet. Gods aren't my thing, though. They don't belong in this age.

Varg says some dumb shit sometimes but nobody is perfect and he is on point on a quite a number of issues.
I would describe myself as a cultural Christian who doesn't actually believe the religion is true but is also kind of hoping it is at the same time. Modern Christianity has many pagan practices adopted into it (Christmas is a pagan holiday.) Some pagans are dumb liberals but the ones like Varg are allies.

>>132828460

The Christians destroyed the traces of pre-Christian European culture that had existed during their Crusades. We don't think of Crusades against Europeans as Crusades, do we? So, who knows?

Ask yourself this, what was the great European culture the predated Christianity?

The Romans and Greeks. Do you really not believe how the way did things could be converted into a better future for ourselves now?

Whatever your opinion is here wouldn't change my beliefs. I am a European and will observe European religions if I observe religion at all.

I will certainly not observe Jewish libel that has brought my people to the brink of extermination.

Remember gents, it was the British missionaries who sided with the AFRICANS over the Boers because the Boers weren't being CHRISTIAN enough to the Africans.

Let it go...

>>132808212
>le 2000 christcucks memesy

Ignoring 40,000+ years of true European Aryan soul

>>132828290
>Josephus is a Jew
>hey look guys there were Jews subverting Rome writing fake history even then

>>132829384
>MUH Aryan soul
Bunch of mudhut living barbarians witches acting as niggers

40k years and the place was still a shithole

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>>132829595

spoken like a true Jew


Your ancestors stole their history from the Egyptians and Sumerians and you were never slaves in Egypt

>>132829595

Much of the PAGAN Roman empire was more livable than 18th century Europe, faggot.

But MUH THE JEWS TOLD IT STRAIGHT THIS TIME GUISE, I SWEAR

Consider kys

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>>132829103
The Greeks and Romans also converted to Christianity. My people (Germanics) were a blight on the Empire between constant raids, and flooding Italia to collect the bread dole.

It was only after we converted to the Christianity, which we learned from the Romans mind you, that we had realized what we had destroyed and began to pick up the pieces. Since them Germanics have become the most powerful race on the history of the Earth. We started the Enlightenment, conquered damn near the whole of the planet, invented the scientific method, medicine, computers, split the atom, and landed on the moon.

Almost every innovation that has uplifted our lives from being toiling in the dirt picking beets was an invention of Christian Germanics.

And now that our people have abandoned what over a millennium Christian ancestors have invented, name individualism, rational thought, universalism, free speech, limited government, etc that our race is in mortal peril.

How is this pit of socialism, nihilism, and consumerism a product of Christianity?

What did my pagan ancestors create that I should be proud of? Don't talk about the Greeks or Romans. I'm no more greek than jew.

>>132816718
>Second Metaphysical my ass, everything is explainable humans just have stupid monkey minds and are pig ignorant

Nice a priori deduction there Einstein, if that is the axiom by which your beliefs stem, it firstly does not disprove the metaphysical as what is metaphysical can still be understood. If you can't even get past Logical Positivism then you need to lurk moar lmao.

>>132830723
>Christian ancestors have invented, name individualism, rational thought, universalism, free speech, limited government, etc

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>132830723
Don't forget that Varg has colonized France.

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>>132831172
namely* individualism

Point remains.

>>132830723

I don't deny the accomplishments of German civilization after the Renaissance (triggered by discoveries of non-Christian civilizations) and the racial quality of Germans just as I attribute the accomplishments of the Roman and Greek accomplishments predominantly to their racial quality. Race is the overriding factor of civilization (not religion) and race has the tendency of going down the tubes when you import millions of slaves like Rome did pre-industrialization. Importing Christianity has done nothing for Africa. Importing Roman paganism would do nothing for Africa.

I would say a civilization's achievement is also much to do with the regulation of gender hierarchies, which was to my understanding a failing of a Germanic paganism compared to other civilizations. I am not advocating for a return to living exactly like Northern European pagans. Religiously, I would still far rather worship a European religion than a Jewish religion that I find morally and aesthetically reprehensible.

Do you believe Christianity is true? Do you believe is good for Europeans now? If we want our civilization to survive, we must prioritize our race over our religion. What are you going to do when Africa is populated with billions of Christians? Mestizo America? What will Christians do? The Pope? As a Christian, you are obligated to put Christians ahead of Europeans.

If you want to worship a Jewish religion, that's fine. If you want to attribute your people's greatness to a Jewish religion, that's fine.

But don't say to me that it is somehow logical or morally obligatory to do so. It's not. On scales of truth, Christianity fails. On scales of necessity, Christianity fails. How many Europeans attend mass anyways? 10-15%?

The main thing for you is that you are Pro-European. You are my brother. But I think Christianity will let you down in the end like it already has. The National Socialists were not near "Christian" enough for (((America or Great Britain))).

>>132831570
The point is fucking stupid. How do you invent rational thoughts?
>God says don't kill
>Except these guys you can kill them
Yeah, rational thinking.

How do you invent free speech? Everyone has free speech, always had free speech and always will have free speech.

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>>132830723
>Christian ancestors have invented, name individualism, rational thought, universalism, free speech, limited government,

Do you actually believe Christians "invented" any of those things? Really now... Some individual Christians may have refined them, sure.

Furthermore, individualism for goyim, free speech for the Judenpresse, and universalism for the third-world isn't exactly working in our favor. All of these abstractions we hold sacred have been used to destroy.

I wouldn't put any "principle" over the 14 words.

>>132803193
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>>132833456
The first societies to codify and practice those values were Christian.

>individualism for goyim
Has worked far better than the collectivism in the East. In fact the notion that every man is in control of his own destiny is what's made the West so great, it's what fuels the entrepreneurial spirit that makes our economies so strong.

>free speech for the Judenpresse
And nobody else.

The Jews hate free speech. Why do you think they're trying so hard to wrangle control of the internet? Without free speech you probably wouldn't even know that all of your overlords are members of the tribe. What they want is a monopoly on the media, the exact opposite of free speech. Freedom to speak the Truth is what makes the West great. If the people can't know what's true, the society flies blind.

>universalism for the third-world
We aren't applying universalism to the third world. We're applying cultural relativism. We're expected to accept all of the barbaric nonsense that the Muslims and Niggers practice because it's just a part of "cultural differences". There's no such thing as right and wrong, up or down, just different cultures and perspectives. We don't hold the minorities to the same standards and laws we hold ourselves. Look at Rotherham. Look at Affirmative action.

>>132802225
I dont give a fuck about it, but i feel bad that it was taken over by a bunch of genetically deficient bible thumpers

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Is this really the face of /pol/?