Socialism

>>132762535
There is no issue with it at all. It is the moral and Christian way to do it. Unfortunately we live in a cruel world ruled by the .01% plutocracy. The rich need to be destroyed, and all of their money redistributed.

>taxation is theft
>socialism punishes the most productive members of society by taking away their capital and encourages laziness by giving to the useless
>the state existing is an act of coercion alone
Read Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

>>132762535
>The way I understand it is that they take some from the rich and give some to the less rich

Rather they take from the upper middle class and give to themselves (the upper upper class). It's proto communism.

>>132762733
>It is the moral and Christian way to do it.

Taking from producers with the force of law and giving to parasites is Christian and moral. Let that slowly sink in.

>>132762535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fLhrTA0_j0

>>132762535
do you understand that even if the entire world was a social democracy there will still be rich people? the rich will always find a way to stay rich and the rockefellers and their ilk are not going to just hand you free shit?

so basically this system would give you .0001% of super wealthy people and everyone else will be dirt poor

>>132763942
>Rather they take from the upper middle class and give to themselves
I'm not sure I understand this one.

>>132764471
I don't see how the remainder would be dirt poor.

>>132762535
Socialism is ideal, but not realistic.

So learn about how socialism is productive to society and you will understand where humanity is going.

Learn of it downfalls to understand where we don't want to go. (Fascism, dictatorships, authoritarianism)

It is a two edged sword. Humanity is a blade of grass being chopped into many pieces. The fruit is harvested and the chaff is burnt.

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>>132765279
Under Socialism, everyone essentially gets less money overall. Instead, you get social programs and uses (Metro services, bus passes). The reason why this is bad is because it too easily leads to Communism. On top of all of this, Socialism calls for an even bigger government to handle everything from economics to the military. This leads to the government dictating what the ordinary citizens can and cant do. It eventually gets rid of the free market system and anything known as Capitalism. Because, if it isn't good for the state, then its good for nobody. The common misconception about Socialism is that everyone will have more wealth. That's true on paper but in reality, that wealth will never materialize for the average individual. You'll probably be worse off under Socialism than you were under Capitalism or a Democracy.

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>>132762535
Socialism is at odds with the central greed of the average human. They intend to KEEP what they EARN to the greatest degree possible. Socialism is robbery at the barrel of a gun.

Not to mention to tend to create a permanent under class, completely dependent on the government. Socialism is a Ponzi Scheme. Some initial growth appears but, put simply, a dictator or oligarchy simply cannot properly plan for the needs of a huge amount of people.

>>132766911
It not robbery if people consent
It not rape if she gives consent
Society is a female
God is a male

>>132766136
This makes a ton of sense

>>132762535
>So educate me /pol/ teach me what I'm wrong about and help me understand it.
poor people.

The vast majority of people if given the chance would prefer to live with a welfare check than work. It's human nature, if you have a roof, food and can afford luxuries like smartphones and internet you have 0 incentive to work.

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>>132762535
Rationally speaking, the 'Socialist' ideology leads me to believe that everyone should just commit suicide since we're just consumers anyway. We wait around for the government handouts, and spend time spending time.

Pleasure? Pain? Just skip it all. I'm not here for a reason anyway.

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>>132769149
That's the thing. In every communist revolution many, many, many did not consent. To quote Crass, "Government is government and government is force. Left or right or right or left it takes the same old course. Oppression and restriction, regulation, rule of law the seizure of all that power is all your revolution's for..."

>>132766136
you must finish kindergarden to post here

>>132771183
What about my post suggested i didn't complete kindergarten? (pro-tip learn how to spell)

>>132765967
You're a fucking retard desu. You've done what all (((cuckistanis))) do and confuse (((Socialism))) with Socialism. They might share the same name, but that's as far as it goes. Like how people say whites and niggers are both human, but they're actually vastly different. They're the same in name only.
Dictatorships, which you should never confuse with (((Dictatorships))), are the only redpilled form of government. Pretend for a second you didn't grow up in a broken home and you grew up in a homestead of a mother, father, brother and sister. The nuclear family if you will. Who makes the decisions in such a family? Does everyone hold a vote on what they think they should do or does the father tell them what they'll do? Notice these families didn't fall apart up until, wow, "everyone deserved a say"? Must be a pure coincidence.
Anyway, enjoy your rope.

>>132762535
because i get up and bust my ass everyday to get what i have, and you dont i need to give you what i earned so were closer to even? Nope!! Get up and get it yourself!!