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/pol/ communism general 2017-07-07 05:10:37 Post No. 132708047
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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>>132708047
nobody loves you, stop posting this damn thread every day
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>>132710442
>Marxism is not statism!
>Actually it's only temporary.
>Decades, probably centuries of totalitarian quasi fascist statism to make a true utopia (you won't even be alive to get the payoff; best case scenario)
>apply immense suffering to mankind, and after a couple of centuries of that it would be possible to have an economy where valuing goods is illegal, where nobody knows whether a good is worth its costs or not.
How about we have a tiny little thought experiment. Nothing major, just a very small little premise: what if your conclusion is wrong? What if we cannot in fact, have a collectivist economy with no definition of value? Then the conclusion would be, that you are in fact working day and night, 24/7, to destroying civilization and hurting free people. If you are wrong about your simplistic economic model, then you are evil on a cartoonish level.
Let's take one step further and look at this economic model. We are talking about something that at least among the economic academics, was already debunked. The part where you could be wrong, is something you deny to be reasoned with, something you refuse to even talk about. So basically, you purposefully bring destruction to innocent people with excuses you refuse to even discuss. Do you not see now, why people talk about throwing you out of helicopters? Do you understand now, why certain regimes murdered commies without even thinking twice?
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