"Libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe
This is a thread for the discussion of all ideologies that promote property rights, individual liberty and lassez-faire capitalism. These includes (but is not limited to) anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, minarchy, agorism and anti-leftism (i.e. physical removal, so to speak). All others are welcome to learn and debate us.
Reminder that this is a right-wing thread, so libertine degenerates ('live and let live' faggotry), open-border advocates and faux-libertarians (e.g. Gary Johnson) are not welcome here - people here recognise that property rights imply discrimination and a return to traditional, conservative values.
Although questions are welcome, many are repeated often, so it is recommended you research the basics first. Nobody here is obligated to debate with you, so try to avoid using fallacies in your arguments or creating unrealistic scenarios.
THREAD RESOURCES:
>Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iT0Rw8PT
>Website: libertarianright.org
>Discord & Book Club: /jCVRCR3
REQUIRED READING:
>The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated Summary (David Friedman) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (Watch this!)
>Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard) - https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state
>Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf
FURTHER READING:
>Reference - See https://i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg
>Torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books
THREAD THEME:
>hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ
>Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw
>I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
>Drop it like it's Hoppe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM
>>132667411
Hail /lrg/, the only true voice of liberty ok /pol/
>>132668784
Curt Doolittle, the creator of propertarianism (at least I believe he created it), doesn't understand Anarcho-Capitalism.
>Rothbardian ethics treat blackmail as a voluntary exchange
Since when? "do this or I'll ruin your life" isn't a voluntary exchange; it's coercion.
>>132669877
I've been looking at Curt, so far I'm not impressed. He's seems intelligent, but doesn't fully understand Anarcho Capitalism enough. He just comes off as an edgier classical liberal. But I haven't gave him a full listen yet.
>>132670722
That's the same impression I got. Similarly to you though, I haven't spent too much time looking into propertarianism, so I can't give a full opinion on it.
Learn economics
>>132671141
>flag
top kek.
>>132671141
Strange coming from "property is theft" fags like you.
>>132671141
>>132671141
learn how to fly
>>132671141
bump
>>132671141
the irony is strong with this one, comrade
>>132671628
NEW REMOVAL THEME?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm0
>>132672077
top kek
>>132671141
dude what if the only thing that's worth anything is labor but also labor I don't like is also not worth anything lmao
>economy collapses
Do we agree with Hoppe when he says that Keynes' economic views can be explained by his homosexuality? If so, how do we bring this into the mainstream of economic and political discourse?
>>132667411
>Anarchy
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP.
Also, why are libertarians so against the concept of a state?
>>132672911
Are you the guy who says he would argue why homos can't be in positions of power?
>>132672947
Don't infight faggot
>>132672947
because a state can only exist by the infringement of people's right to not have the NAP violated?
>>132673042
No.
>>132672947
>state enforces degeneracy
>state enforces democracy
>state enforces socialism
do you understand?
>>132672947
because a state is only good until it inevitably fucks up. when you centralize the state, you centralize fuckups and now everybody's gotta put up with bullshit instead of one faggot loser
Reminder that "Objectivism" deserves a mention in the OP as it encapsulates Nationalism, Capitalism, Meritocracy, Individualism, and Libertarianism all rolled into one. Libertarianism is only useful as a technical qualifier and is literally incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk
Cultural Marxists are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded. Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy.
>>132671141
Nice bait nigger
>>132675031
>tfw you realize that people hate on Ayn Rand so much because Atlas Shrugged completely btfos all collectivist moral systems
>>132671141
>learn my objectively retarded economic theory
ftfy. Austrian economics is the only true economic theory
>>132675931
desu im not even a feminist but most people just dismiss her because she's a woman and welfare queen
I'm not saying she's wrong, but from my own experience that's just how they usually address her work
what's the praxeological argument for black people being less intelligent/having lower time preference
>>132676375
*high time preference
And it's in IQ most likely. But Hoppe uses Neil Diamond's book (the one with the zebra meme) to explain why niggers didn't advance so much, as well as citing J.P. Rushton, Nick Wade and Charles Murray for IQ stuff.
Basically, they act like children so they have lesser temporal horizons.
>>132676375
they're niggers. their human action is ooga booga. that's it.
>>132676375
Its not praxeological, it's statistical. Low iq, heritability. High time preference.
>>132676872
but empiricism isn't reliable.
>>132676955
it doesn't require empiricism to see that niggers are niggers
>>132676283
the "Ayn Rand took social security so her arguments are invalid" meme is retarded, considering that one of the main pillars of her Atlas Shrugged is about making sure to take back everything the government takes from you
>>132677065
I know, but most people don't understand that
>>132676375
>>132676375
Blacks come from a place where a low time preference wasn't as crucial for survival as it was in places like Europe. Since traits from parents and ancestors are often inherited by their offspring, we can conclude that blacks are generally biologically bound to a high time preference. From that follows a total lack of noteworthy achievements and a high crime rate
Fuck nazi and fascist flags. They're as dumb as commies
>>132677810
Lol no.
>>132677810
They're boot-lickers but they're only half as bad as commies
>>132677810
we need them towards a strategic alliance against commies.
We allied with the wrong powers in WW2 and we can't let that happen again
>>132677421
What's the proof behind them coming from 'a place where a low time preference wasn't as crucial for survival as it was in places like Europe'?
Hey
>I grow weed
>I have 17 assault rifles
>and I'm gay
>gay
>gay
apparently you hoppean fags have a problem with that?
>>132679643
Warm Africa and access to food
>>132679846
yeah fuck you fag
>>132679846
>apparently you hoppean fags have a problem with that?
no, but I also don't have a problem with anyone who chooses to exclude you from their society based on that fact
fag
>>132679846
Not per se in my case, but by the way you're going about it, yes.
>>132679846
Not unless you go out and shout "I'm a faggot! I'm a faggot! Get rid of your families and of your traditions and prejudices to comfort me! Get rid of your ways of life so I can feel at home!"
http://www.stephankinsella.com/2010/05/hoppe-on-covenant-communities/
Read this and see where you stand.
>>132680220
>Not unless you go out and shout "I'm a faggot! I'm a faggot!
Like he did just now?
>>132667411
>Hey
>>I grow weed
>>I have 17 assault rifles
>>and I'm gay
>>gay
>>gay
>
>apparently you hoppean fags have a problem with that?
Thanks for the unsolicited rundown, identity fag...no-one cares about your cool guns, who's butt you fuck in private.
>>132680809
why did you quote the op
>>132681568
BECAUSE I'M IN A DEALERSHIP WAITING ROOM ON AN UNLICENSED SHIT CELL PHONE APP TRYING NOT TO GO INSANE WAITING FOR GF CAR TO BE READY. ALL CAPS
>>132680409
I was thinking more of a "Local homosexual petitions for the recognition of same-sex couples in the free territory of Ruritania. The territory of Ruritania is a designated traditional conservative covenant by the National Contracts Corporation (NCC), leading to the dissatisfaction of Ruritanian tenants over their neighbor's public comments. The NCC has opened a legal procedure after Ruritanians petitioned for the expulsion of the local homosexual, and will decide whether or not the contract is terminated later this week."
>>132679846
I do if you try and pull any gay shit on my private property. Keep it to yourself, homo
>>132679846
No, you're a human being who is degenerate. Sex with the same gender contravenes your reproductive faculties; it negates natural law. It's like putting food in your ears and calling it eating. It's nothing more than a disordered inclination.