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Holy shit! /Pol/ will NEVER recover!

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Holy shit! /Pol/ will NEVER recover!
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>1 post by OPs ID

how much do you want to bet?
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>>132657911
>anarchism
>islamism
Should have used Fascism and Communism, at least those sound close to normies.
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>>132658040
There weren't any posts to respond to before yours retard.
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>>132657911
>Anarchism is a left-wing ideology.
>How to spot a retard.
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>>132658597
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>132657911
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>>132658374
He was right though op is gone
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>>132657911
>Catholic
>Right wing
KEK! Those guys are cucks tbqh. One lives right by me has the virgin mary false idol worship in the yard as well as a closepins "safe zone" or whatever the fuck fags are promoting this week sign too.
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>>132658839
But there was no way of knowing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41KoElGBPU
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What if I'm
>Fiscally Centre-Left
>Socially Very Conservative (plus I don't beleive women should vote)
?

You see the horshoe theory doesn't make snese all of the time, and there's nothing wrong with being a radcial, or a fanatic if you have a clear mind for debating, and prefer to use logic.

However horseshow theory does make sense if it's refering to how people argue.
>Centre of horshoe
People of all ideologoes who use sensible debate

>Horshoe end 1
Feminist SJW's who spew buzzwords like ''racist''

>Horshoe end 2
(((White supremisists))) who spew shit like ''kill le niggers'' without providing any evidence
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>>132657911
>nazi flag
not a (((coincidence)))
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>>132658826
Your formatting is trash.
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>>132658040
is this a meme
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>>132659973
Everything is a meme.
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>>132657911
??????
Jewish political spectrum /btfo/?
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>>132658374
Missed the point completely
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>>132657911
your horseshoe makes no sense.
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>>132657911
Postmodernism is basicly centrism
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Recovered from OPs massive retardation.
Actually OPs diagram is a perfect example of how all the left/right stuff is nothing but a meme. It's absolute bullshit served up on a plate for the most stupid shallow minds to uncritically consume.
As proof I'd say OP obviously accepts this crap and I'd site OPs moronic comment that "/pol will never recover" as definitive proof that he's a retard. Retards swallow memes because their minds don't work effectively.
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People who believe in horseshoe theory claim that the methodology is what matters, rather than the principles held and consequences sought or achieved. Fascists and anarchists both use violence to achieve their goals therefore they are the same. It's astoundingly retarded and designed to make bourgeois lemmings feel smart and reasonable. I suspect that it's Jewish.
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>>132657911
>muh horseshoe theory
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>>132660089
literally the third way
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>>132657911
no
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>>132658040
fpbp
proven entirely right
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>>132660858
underrated
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>>132657911
>corporatism is closest right wing philosophy to the center
>fascism is second furthest from center

wut
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>>132657911
Where would national bolshevisim be on this chart?
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>>132657911
Only retarded people who don't know what the fuck left/right actually means. Cause this whole meme is as wrong as the false left/right paradigm has always been
You''re being lied to foolish mortals.
https://youtu.be/ui-Jbaw8rZc

I cannot believe any of you still believe this utter CRAP that authoritarianism can exist on both ends of a political spectrum.
For real, it astounds me. Gives me a headache trying to puzzle out how you guys make sense of the world with this BS scale.
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>>132661316
Nowhere because the chart doesn't make any sense.
Horseshoe theory can't explain why I can find common ground with Stalinists but want to fucking gas conservatives. After all, if you complete the circle they're about the same distance away from each other.
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>>132657911
>This entire image
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>>132661504
It's because you are a left winger my good friend. All authoritarianism is left wing. You are right, this meme is utter nonsense.
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>babbys first political opinion
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>>132661415
Daily reminder that left-right as auth-lib was created by lolbergs butthurt over shitlibs calling them Nazis.

>>132661651
Two axes senpai, also >>132660745
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>>132657911
DRUMPF BTFOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>132661523
>>132661200
>>132660911
topkek these are gold
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>>132661651
lol
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>>132658597
It is, though. You're thinking in terms of American politics, but remember that the Left/Right paradigm was created to reflect Post-French-Revolution politics in France. It's always been sort of retarded to continue using that standard for so long given the political change throughout the world since then.
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>>132658040
how does he do it?
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>>132657911
>liberalism (modern version I suppose)
>science accurate
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>>132661721
It was actually made by people who wanted to pretend Nazis are right-wing. Liberals AND stormfags are guilty of this.
It was propped up by all the liberal spies that most Natsoc movements are started by.
Nazis on the right meme only helps one group.
>>132661940
If only a scale measuring opposites were a game of tug of war, then your point would be valid.
In the real world it is as retarded as you are.
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>>132662196
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>>132657911
>being religious is a political stance
>flag related
Also Communism will never work, while fascism might have a chance.
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>>132662388
It's my number one fan!!
The leftist spy.
Great argument you've got there!!
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>>132661504
I think it's about time the entire human race should be exterminated.
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>>132657911
Except the right side leads to prosperity. Unless you want to pretend poverty is the same as wealth.
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>>132662196
>liberals
So you mean you? You're literally advocating liberalism, you stupid kike. That's the center of the compass.
Commies aren't liberals and they hate them as much as Nazis and lolbergs do, but for different reasons. Ancoms hate tankies for the same reason you hate Nazis.

>>132662906
B-but they want to change things and use force! They're the same!
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>>132657911
>Catholicism as a political ideology
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>>132663033
No. I am a right-winger. A real one. Small govt.
You are a Nazi a socialist...wanting FULL control.
Just like the Bernie bots.
Your theory rests on the skin color of the people in control.
Bernie voters are national socialists too. They just want a controlling state for EVERYONE.
You want one for WHITES.
YOU ARE THEM MY FRIEND.
Sorry you were lied to...it has nothing to do wih me.
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>>132663477
I'm sorry you're retarded. Hopefully you can get the help you need.
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The horseshoe theory works better when you look at arguments rather than ideologies.
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>>132662771
How Reddit are you?
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>>132663477
>barnie sanders
>anything like national socialists

get a load of this cunt
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>>132657911

so it's impossible to support science and also be right leaning?

>really rubs my testicles in shards of glass
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>>132663592
That is what people with no argument always say.
Believe wtf you like. I know you are full of shit, and I suspect you know too.
I can sense it in your butt hurt.
>>132664060
You are. Only difference is the group of people it serves. Their skin color. You utter fucking moron.
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It's a myth that only fascists and anarchists use force
The supporters of the uk Labour Party use force, liberals use the most force of all, all the time as the establishment to keep down the opposition while dressing it up as law enforcement and creating unjust 1984 laws. If they ever start loosing power the force they will deploy through the everything from the military, the CIA, the police, mercenaries is massive. They use people power too.
Force is used by all flavours of the turd sandwich horseshoe.
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>>132658040
Nice call fellow freedom lover.
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>>132664481
Of course it's a myth. The difference is that since neoliberals control the machinery of the state their violence is abstracted by a few layers. Fascists will beat you up, anarchists will tip your trash can over, Jews will put you in jail.

It's...almost like...whoa....... politics is like, about force.. really maeks you think
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>>132657911
>pol is fascist/nazi/commie
It's called synarchism you cuck. Praise the chaos God. Doctrine of Eternal Fascism now!
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>>132663477
>No. I am a right-winger. A real one. Small govt.
NEOCON
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>>132664481
Wow. Dripping with coffee. Got a mug of it thrown on me for posting here.
Coincidence eh? Feminists using force as we discuss it.
Gotta go do some cuck stuff now if I want to get fucked any time soon.
Too much.
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>>132665203
Always filter namefags. They never have anything good to say.
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>>132664341
>You
I nevr said I was a National Socialist. I personally find it a little authoritarian. PERSONALLY.

>>132664341

>You are. Only difference is the group of people it serves. Their skin color. You utter fucking moron.
One business sells screwdrivers to working/middles class suburban white males
The other business sells dragon dildos to raging feminists
TOTALLY THE FUCKING SAME GUYS, JUST FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

Do you think House of Saudi politics is the same as the feminist ''Scum'' manifesto too?

In your logic, you might as well scrapp all ideologies, forget about everyting, ando go play rambo in the woods.
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>>132665280
We aught to make one of these with namefag as the reason for trashing their post.
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>>132660076
that's a profound statement, I don't think you understand the gravity of what you just said
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>>132660195

Which is?
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>>132664904
Anarchists cannot use force. It is part of the whole theory. You cannot believe in NO government control, and then use violence to control other people.
You guys have literally bought every lie the fake media ever sold America.
It's super fucking sad.
Anarchy and Communism being next to each other......hahahahahahahahahahah---ahhhhhh
>>132665203
Buzzword...Buzzword.
Sure thing neocons think the right is anarchy and little government....Hahahahahliterally the guys who FUNDED Nazism.
>>132665287
None of wtf you are saying makes sense.
Of course if wyf you are selling is hammers, then you are all hammer salesmen in the same business of hammer selling.
You guys are selling the same thing...successs with MORE government control.
You hypothetical strawman stories are HILARIOUS though.
At least it required some thought...even if it is BS...
>>132665596
>>132665280
https://youtu.be/sXQkXXBqj_U

SEE? They are leftists. When they have no argument, they run away, and seek a safe space, and swear up and down it is because you are the stupid one.
You guys...
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>>132665596
I trashed his post because he's an uneducated moron who's adopted the "commies are nazis because they're not lolbergs, haha checkmate leftists" mindset. Being a namefag is just another symptom of his profoundly cancerous nature.
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>>132665280

He's literally a Jew. I was arguing with him the other day as to why Jews should be exterminated and he let his secret slip. Very sloppy.
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>>132666128
Thinks he trashed something...You guys are hilarious.
My words strike quite a cord with these lil kids, for some reason. Never seen quite this reaction to supposed stupidity before.
You cannot keep everyone from knowing the truth forever leftist spies.
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>>132666388
I was born a Jew. Secret slip? I never hid it. I don't deal in identity politics.
Literal leftism.
Also what a Leftist would say.
Bernie bros hate Jews too. BLM etc.
Great company you are in.
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>>132666128
He's an idiot and a namefag. Too bad it's terminal.
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Can any of you say anything that isn't something a SJW would say?
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>>132657911
>Liberalism is absolute center.
>Socialism is as far to the left as conservatism is to the right.

Wanna know how I know a leftist made this?
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>>132658040
OP BTFO
sage goes in the options field
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>>132666687
Another stellar argument, after all we cannot have people not following the rules on an anti-PC board....Imagine the HORROR that would ensue.
>>132666787
Fascism appears on the right?
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>>132657911
>Overton window changes daily
>Implying that "centrism" is an actual position and not just a product of intellectual laziness

If fascism took off tomorrow centrism would shift twenty years to the Right to remain in the center. Centrists are uniformly politically uncommitted people.
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>>132666393
>>132666638

((()))
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>>132657911
it's not even a horse shoe or any shape foh with this hegelian dialectic bullshit. Stop injecting your autism into politics
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>>132666087
but you're just pretty much saying that anything that requires any medium sized gobornment, is the same.

they have completely different outcomes.
Actual socialism leads to poverty.
Radical progressivism leads to a failed civilisation
Traditional politics (or monarchy) led to empires
NatSoc/Fash, I don't know there's barely been proved to work, thanks to the last war that broke out
You have ''anarchy'' which leads to a klan just taking controlanyway.

Then you have Some 'Jack the Lad' who wants to have tighter borders for his country, and promote traditional values, and check a few bux at some homless people.

All of these people I've mentioned above are clearly different for society as a whole. Not just some ''group''.
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i respect anarchists more than liberals

i mean, the horseshoe theory is a meme, but regardless
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>>132659973
if you were here before the election you would know
now get out newfuck
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>>132658374
Welcome to /pol/ newfriend.
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>>132666764
Doesn't even slightly fit.
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>>132662196
>Stormfag

Go away the_donald. Nobody is buying your based brand of (((conservatism))).
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>>132657911
How is anarchism "lunatic fringe"? There is nothing crazy about wanting no government to interfere in your life and live & let live towards your neighbors.

The self proclaimed "anarchists" are the opposite of that ideology. A true anarchist would never destroy someone else's property or interfere with another person in any way.
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>>132666511
It's shit, not just because it fails to make its chosen ideology look good and strawmens its opponents, but because it's just a bunch of ideologies arranged around a horseshoe.
Sometimes you guys make good talking points but sometimes you really are completely retarded.
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>>132667350
Reconstructed bitchboi
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>>132666764
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>>132666961
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>>132666511
>an image that consists only of strawman arguments except for muh specific, perfect, entirely infallible form of communism
Is it too much to ask that you even try?
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>>132657911

Only the people in the yellow are worth a good goddamn.

The rest of them are degenerates.
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>>132667715

>Feminism
>Secularism
>Liberalism


>not degenerate
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>>132667113
Authoritarianism libertarian spectrum is a false dichotomy.
ALL you need is the true left/right spectrum. Otherwise you are not measuring government control any longer.
Why share a bunch BS with me that is just more people who don't know wtf they are talking about?
If everyone on earth believes BS...it does not make it so.
>>132667222
Yeah only most of the people with American flags are buying my BS. And ask me if I give a fuck what anyone else thinks...go ahead...ask me.
>>132667484
Exactly. You think I giva a fuck about being hated. Another thing a collectivist leftist would say.
Come on you guys...something a leftist WOULD NoT SAY.
Sure thing, it's the name that triggered you...fuck offf, no one is buying it.
>>132667463
Nice straw man. Did you make this meme just for me, or do you always pull it out when you have no argument?
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>>132657911
>Anti-vaccine
>Left
Sure OP
>>132658597
It's about as far left as you can go retard. The complete abolition of state.
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>>132667121
Does not matter what the fucking group is...holy shit are you dumb.
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>>132657911
>Anarchism and Communism right next to each other on the spectrum
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>>132668122

I am just reminding everyone that the political ideology doesn't matter when you have an ultra-wealthy minority that follows an ethno-nationalist religion that will put the benefit of their people before the needs of the nation.

That is why whites are starting to create their own ethno-centric ideologies and it scares you because the moment whites do this Jews lose power.
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>>132668122
Good post my friend.
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>>132657911

>liberalism

Seriously what do you offer now?
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>>132657911

Shitty horseshoe theory is shitty.
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>>132657911
I read this like 15 mins ago and have since recovered. What are you talking about OP?
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>>132657911
>Nazbols not represented
You can see (((they))) are doing everything they can to supress the Nazbol message.

They know Nazbols will end their (((liberalism)))
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>>132668442
Hahahaah still thinks everyone else are the ones controlling people...but it's okay for you..hahahahahahah
Again...say something that IS NOT something a leftist would say. Holy fuck...is it really this hard?
Just reminding everyone guys like this dude are controlled opposition. Just like they were in 1945.
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>>132657911
>Holy shit! /Pol/ will NEVER recover!
Fag flag is presented as model of political spectrum. Ass-pirate made thread.
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>>132668412

Anarchism must come before communism

Only in the absence of the state can the proletariat seize the means of production
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>>132658040
Impressive.
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>>132657911
>Catholicism
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>>132658040

You won, this should become a new meme.
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>>132668717
That's right winning is immoral. Only controlled opposition would want to win. So obvious.
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>>132657911
>Islamism is the diametral opposite of complete and irresolute mental retardation

Sounds fine to me.

Also,
>1 post by this ID
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>>132668717

I don't even have to make the claim to upset you. I just have to support white identity and you start the nervous laughter.

The ovens are pre-heating. Muslims hate you, Chinks hate you, Africans hate you and Europeans are starting to hate you because you people have done nothing but bite the hand that fed you in your diaspora.

You can continue to associate anti-semitism with leftism but everyone knows that leftism is Jewish at it's roots so your accusations are laughable.
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>>132668284
No, you're talking about 'group' only. Listen dude, all ideas have a group following. Totalitarians, Authoritarians, Libertarians, and Anarchists. And none of these groups within these sub shelves are the fucking same.

I don't give a fuck what group likes what, and who they look like. They'll still be different, not that it matters
I'm mainly just saying that certain ideologies have differnet outcomes as a whole. Some cause millions of deaths, and some work.

I'm not sure if you're just giving this whole ''my ideology is on a high ground, and everything else is shit'' bullcrap.

No m8, even all forms of libertarianism aren't the same. And Traditional Conservatism (classic european one not, american) definately isn't the same as social 'democracy'.
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>>132657911
Green is best.

Fuck all of you
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>>132657911
Alt-Right
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>>132669238
You don't want to win stupid, that is the point. Rather than be controlled by JEws, you'd rather be controlled by whites...who will still be susceptible to being controlled by Jews.
You are all foreign edgelords. probably 14 or 15.
>>132669445
I am a Christian dumbfuck.
I have the nation of GOD behind me, you pathetic coward.
>>132669467
This is stupid on too many levels to address. Keep believing what you do...I know you will never understand wtf I am saying, until you are old enough to not think with your cock.
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>>132658040
its not hard to tell when he has a nazi flag but is pushing cuck shit
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>>132669727
>This is stupid on too many levels to address. Keep believing what you do...I know you will never understand wtf I am saying, until you are old enough to not think with your cock.

Do you think AnCom and AnCap are the same?
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>>132669727
Why bother winning if I we could lose?
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>>132669467

>Some cause millions of deaths, and some work.

Very true, though a lot of people use this to disqualify national socialism as a viable politic.

World war caused the millions of deaths. Unlike communism, German GDP sky rocketed and no one went hungry under Nazi rule. Currency was reissued by a state bank (not one owned privately by Jews like the Rothschild dynasty) and industry was privatized under union supervision.
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>>132669913
They are both BS.
True Capitalism is Anarchy by it's very structure.
And Anarcho Communism is a literal oxymoron.
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>>132669961
Sorry, too dumb to respond to. You cannot even read.
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>>132658826
>Proven to work
Source?
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>>132670154

>"Anarchy is the condition of a society, entity, group of people, or a single person that rejects hierarchy"

-Wikipedia

Capitalism by it's very nature is hierarchical. Those with capital have more power than those without. Those with inherent value can earn capital easily while those without remain poor and powerless.

What a stupid statement.
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>>132670267
>tfw 2 smart 4 pole

Extremists BTFO!
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>>132657911
It's as if they took random words from a political science textbook and pasted them all over a gay horseshoe randomly.
>wtf is this nonsense?
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>>132670549
It may be a stupid statement, but at least I'm not a Nazi. Checkmate stormfags xXD
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>>132660858
Not accurate. The far right text should be in the middle. The far right would then become, "kill all drug dealers and sex tourists without due process in order to enforce an anti-degeneracy sharia society".
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I would be in the non existent purple spot. Benelevont christian anarchy
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>>132670762
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Where am I on the spectrum?

I want to sniff legal heroin
I want to own a legal machine gun
I want to have wild sex
I want to possibly start a (((concentration camp))) but I have some concerns about totalitarianism infringing on my first three
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>>132670956

Mad Max
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>>132670154
indirectly wrong

I mean you're right that unregulated (which is probaly what you're talking about) capitalism is free market and all, but do you really think it is when it comes to the whole populations?

I honestly don't think people are in control of what is in demand of the market anymore. But rather big time capitalists themselves have managed to get a great hold of what people wanted at some point (especially with mass media), and are now controlling the market themselves. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's capitalism and business in nature. What businessman doesn't want people being braindead dumb shits who consume his shit 24/7?

Look at it outside the box, the populace is fucking stupid, and will always follow something. Religions, products, whatever. But I say that the current state of capitalism (consumerism) isn't doing doing the world any favours.

People follow what's what. And something that promotes healthy life, is something that's better than crappy culture where pleasre comes before long term happijness. Look around you knowe. It's the result of neoliberal capitalism that has spiraled out of control.

This is my opinion anyway.
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>>132671238

You're right and that's why Jews consistently push the destruction of hierarchical power.

When there is an absence of state power, they fill that role through usury and priestcraft (media, religion, philosophy) or thrive under their own hierarchical tribalism which outpaces individualism economically and spiritually.

It's fine that they do this, what's fucked up is that they do it at the expense of whatever nation they inhabit and actively discourage native Europeans and their descendants of doing the same because Europeans are their meal ticket and have been since 300 AD
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i don't know mad max, maybe i should watch the movie??

like i want total freedom to do all my degenerate shit but i want to be well armed and really just get (((them))) outta here

could i be an-cap? i know i agree with a lot of the shit the nazis say but they are too puritanical and point the finger at each other too much
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>>132671238
Here, have some of my signature Pasta:

In socialism, ALL SOCIALISM/FASCISM, you still have to trust the word of corrupt PEOPLE, about how much production/resources are available. You have no way of knowing.
At least in capitalism, you can vote with your dollars, and buy into shares of the produce/resources.
In addition, whether you pretend to place centralized control of resources, in the state (socialism), or the people (communism), the difference is sheer semantics....pretending to place control in a human construct designated the ability to actually be fair, and not corrupt.

In fact we have fascism/socialism now...that is what the bailouts were. Those are the Peoples' Banks. Obamacare is the Peoples' insurance. Why ask for something you already have?

I think most people asking for socialism or Communism have no idea, and have never really considered wtf that would look like. For more info, see: "Obama Administration"
Americans even asked for their money to be owned by foreigners (not even our money), when they voted for Woodrow Wilson, a known globalist shill, who had KNOWN central bank aspirations.
Same with Obama...people asked for a Soros/Goldman Sachs shill, and that is what America got.
According to my research, America has consistently gotten exactly what it has asked for.
We are not being controlled as much as people think, and that's the truth. Feels to me, that people are failing the American experiment....maybe we are too dumb for self-governance. Not all of us...but it is enough.
(Later everyone!)
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>>132667195
>he thinks he's not a newfag because he was here before the election
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Anarchism and Islam.
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>>132672119
That's why my political system escapes the folly of human nature by abolishing man himself.
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>>132670352
Literally most poor to one of the wealthiest nations on earth in 6 years
Are you a faggot by chance?
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>>132659201
sweet summer child
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>>132671839
Yeah, everyone knows when there is no state power, the Jews control it...unlike Nazi Germany who were funded by the Skull and Bones, or the USSR who had an even more extensive 'state'
They never seized power in these kinds of regimes...hahahahah
>>132672442
That is not YOUR political system. That is every globalist propaganda I ever read.
Rockefeller foundation.
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>>132657911
>Fascism.
>Far right.
This meme is born from the stupidity of leftists.
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>>132672771
Hahahahahah! This guy gets it.
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>>132668206
socialism and communism just need an transitional state honestly please just keep listening to our utopia talk we really really really don't want a state honestly and clearly it's not needed cause we're oppressed now and just need our freedom from property and marriage fuck states bootlickers amirite comrades
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>>132672119

>In fact we have fascism/socialism now... that is what the bailout were

No, idiot. That's called an oligarchy which is something national socialism and fascism seek to prevent. Jesus, you're dumb.

Obamacare is being pushed by health industry lobbyists who can freely manipulate the cost of medical procedures and medication when there are laws to collude with private interests which eliminates competition in the free market.

This is the natural progression of capitalism, not socialism or fascism.

The banks are owned by private interests (not the state) and so are the healthcare providers.

>America has consistently gotten exactly what it has asked for

It knows nothing but what the (((Oligarch))) media and (((public education))) feed them. Alternatives like third position are taboo and actively shut down through government interference with free speech.

So many people equate strength with fascism..

>The government is strong and corrupt therefore it is fascist!

It's laughable, honestly.
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>>132670549


Fuck you must be autistic.

In a true free market, unhindered by government, someone with a good idea and a couple of coppers can put a mega corp out of business.

fuck off with your bullshit
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>>132663592
Im going to have to confiscate this image from you
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>>132673090
The Pareto principle shows that heirarchies emerge organically.
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>>132672119
Right, but I'm not promoting marxism, national socialism, or fascism.

I'm just saying that unregulated capitalism right now has the same goal. It's global, and it wants google buttplugs up peoples colons. Sounds crazy, but why? if there's profit to be made? It's natural for business.

But what you're saying about the bailouts is right. It's just fascism for globalists. Globalists just want power, and they'll uise every peice of a political ideology as a tool. Weather that be obamacare, bailouts, or even indentity politics (this not only divides people for consumerism, but creates more monopolies for newly made cliques)

I'd totally agree with you if the average normal citizen was in the know. In fact, it would work fine. Unfortunately though, people aren't and the populous will always be under control of a bigger entity.
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>>132672625

Nazi Germany made it a point to stop the Jews from seizing power... Jews were actively rioting in the streets supporting a communist revolution due to the instability of the German government and economy.

Are you this historically illiterate? You just make these little quips and think that you've put me into checkmate. This is no way to debate.
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>>132672119
what I'm saying is also, is that the populace will never ''wake up''. It will always folow.
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>>132673260

no people with ideas that the world uses the most rises to heirarchies.

Someone less greedy with a better idea will destroy that heirarchy.
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>>132673535
That doesn't destroy a heirarchy, it replaces it.
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>>132673090

And peasants put royalty out of power with a few loaves of bread and pitchforks. Others did the same with a quill and parchment. Does that make Monarchy against hierarchy? No, it means that when the PEOPLE no longer deem a hierarchy to be valid, they establish a new one.

You haven't given this much though, have you? Le snake maymays are all you need to win arguments.
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>>132672994
Thinks America is an oligarchy but fascism does not lead to same fucking thing..more.government control of resources/production.
Every thought you have ever had was laughable kiddo. You don't even know when you are getting wtf you asked for.
The Nazis did a GREAT job of keeping Jews out of power (((SARCASM)))
>>132673300
Hahahahahahahahah believes wtf CNN tells him.
They treated Jews better than any of their prisoners of war, even the storm fags will admit this...although fail to make a connection of controlled opposition.
WW2 was all manipulated to scare Jews into going to Israel, and convince the world Israel was necessary.
Were kind to Jews, were the first Zionists, but were not controled by JEws.
Sure thing kiddo.
Are you even out of school yet.
>>132673463
Probably. I think you may be wrong though, the awakening predicted in the Bible and many other religions as we move into the age of aquarias, seems to be real.
Even if Trump ends up selling us out totally, is base, the movement itself...something is different. Very different.
Ordained even.
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>>132674052

The Nazis failed because the world declared war on them to defend the Anglo-Jewish power structure from which they derived their power and economic prosperity.

The treaty of Versailles castrated Germany and England, France, and the European Jews were content with this resolution to the first world war.

Without fascism, an economic revival like that which the Nazis brought about would be impossible. Nationalization of industry eliminated competition making it profitable for Germans to establish the infrastructure necessary to get the economy back on it's feet. Th
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>>132673823

guess you missed the "less greedy part"

That's ok,

>>132673848

nope, all we need to win an argument, is guns, and lots of them.

insert "Le don't tread on me" maymay
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>>132674850
The less greedy people are pawns of the greedy. I didn't miss it. Authoritarian people are in charge. Nature abhors a vacuum, if you don't like power someone else will take it.
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>>132674052
I personally think that society will collapse anyway, unless we fix our feral culture that we've picked up heavily on within the last 60 years.

Peolle will continue to be as they are now, live off of our society and tech that was built over the last 1500 years by our ancestors, before we experience some form hell on earth.

Modern people will never give up their ''pleasure'' for long term happiness. They just don't know any difference. They'll continue wanting to be some reality celeb in southern california, and have other forms of controlled and fake ambitions that will demolish more family units. Just for pleasure right now.

People may be ''waking up'', and be thinking that ''conservatism is the new counter culture'', but this is just light shit compared to the damage that's already been done. It's like scraping the burn off of a peice of toast that's 90% burnt. It leaves you with nothing really.
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>>132674850

Fascism allows for the right to bear arms. People say that Hitler disarmed his people that the opposite is true. They had a model similar to the Swiss.
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I will just stay comfy in the yellow zone leaning towards the right part .
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>>132657911
nationalism belongs in the center.
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>>132674784
Nazism failed because it was never intended to win. The Jews were MORE content with the outcome of WW2 than anything else ever.
(This guy)
>>132675173
Well from a Biblical point of view, which is the model being followed regardless of its truth, that is exactly what is prophesied....people get dumber and more fallen.
At some point we will need Jesus to return to save us. That is wtf I believe is coming.
If religion is wrong though, then I agree...we are totally fucked.
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>>132675075

>Authoritarian people are in charge

I have instruments and tools that say otherwise

>Nature abhors a vacuum

so when someone fills it, use those instruments and tools. not a hard concept.
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>>132657911
the scale is not good.
fascism is farther on the left than conservatism
and catholicism is equal or more on the right than conservatism judging by its view on the world which is very traditional and introverted

and altruism being a leftist virtue is their dream but not a reality
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>>132675296

Im not against NatSoc,

But unrestricted free markets have lifted more people out of poverty than any other system.

And that sir..... is a fact.
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>>132657911
I'm Catholic and I'm pretty surprised how far right Catholicism is. I feel like a lot of my fellow Catholics are very left wing. Socialist even.

I'm wayyy more conservative than the majority of the church.
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>>132676244

the RCC... corruptible?

Blasphemy! Now go to your dungeon goy!
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>>132676244
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/vatican-ii-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-catholic-anti-semitism/2012/10/25/f2a2356e-1ee2-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_story.html?utm_term=.b32089c12a0f
https://archive.is/Mu4mA

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/vatican-ii-the-jews/
https://archive.is/DQ3cG

https://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-jews-behind-second-vatican-council.html
https://archive.is/6XqQ
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>>132658374
what you got to say now?
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