CANADA IS RUNNING OUT OF WEED

>>132617196

there sure wont be a black market erected from a possible shortage, thats for sure not how the market works. surely nobody is starting to grow weed now. wew luckily we are communist and the great trudeau has everything under control

If you wanna ride the modern day gold rush, get a gardening education and get an instant master grower job, possibilities are endless after that

This could be the plot for the next season of Trailer Park Boys

>>132617196
>Running out of weed?
Fucking how? The stuff will grow literally anywhere.

>>132617196

if they legalize recreational weed and allow the free market to supply it it'll be a booming industry, as it has been in the US in states that have legalized it.

>>132618840

probably because at least for their medical program the government controls the supply rather than letting people grow it themselves or make businesses out of growing.

>>132618616
Now that's a great idea.

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>>132617196
I like how they legalized Opiates and are still fucking about with this.

>>132618942
I honestly don't understand why, it's worth less than tobacco with what I assume to be a smaller customer base.

They were planning on legalizing it Spring 2017.

They will just keep pushing this DUDE LEGAL WEED LMAO platform for years so they can keep getting votes from dumb liberal stoners.

They'll never legalize this shit proper.

>>132617537
Why would people grow weed for the black market when they can grow it for the regular market?

>>132617196
>elect a Prime Minister for his weed promise
>by the time he implements weed laws there is no weed left
Hahahahahahah

>>132619554

taxes

>>132619554
It would depend on how much they sell it for.
Weed is cheap to grow. I am a legal grower and can tell you that I grow it for around $5 per ounce (28g).
There is a lot of profit to be had.

>>132618942
They will legalize it but they won't let it be free market. Government plans only, diet socialism.

And what a surprise, it's not working.

>>132617196
I see you you need to some weed.
Lucky for you, our business NotCartel.Inc can solve that.

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>be Canadian
>get weed from private owned business
>get beer from government run liquor store

>>132619554
some people would say that you have that backwards

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>>132617196
smoking bananas when

>>132619405

are you serious? Tobacco is cheap per pound, you pay more in tax than you do product.

Roll Your own Tobacco can be bought for $6-$9 an oz.

Weed costs like $250 an oz. People who are investing in Cannabis growing operations cite the ridiculous cost as the reason they're in the game. they say "what other agricultural commodity is worth over $3000 a pound?"

only other illegal drugs fetch that kind of price.

>>132617196
DUDE NO

>>132618840
The plant? Yes.
The fruiting buds? No.

It's like growing grapes. They'll vine out everywhere and never produce more than 1 piddling bunch of grapes every year unless you trim them and ration their water.

Like humans, they don't feel the need to reproduce when they have too little or too many resources.

>>132619914
>"what other agricultural commodity is worth over $3000 a pound?"

Also plants can go from seedling or clone to mature in around 8 weeks

>>132619822

See that's retarded I mean, the government stepping in and taking care of some thing that are NOT commercially profitable so the free market hesitates to do them like rural infrastructure, rural schools, space program, military, that all makes sense, since there's no incentive for the private sector to engage in those things since there's no direct profit (before you say spacex realize they're heavily funded by government contracts)

but weed is a consumer product, it makes fucking profit, it'll make profit anywhere. It doesn't even really need advertising, people just have to know where they can get it easily and it sells. The private sector can handle selling weed just fine and it'll create tens of thousands of jobs and be a multi-billion dollar industry.

>>132619705
But the black market is much more expensive than the regular one even with taxes. So why would anyone even want to buy black market weed if the regular one is cheaper and fulfils the standards required for selling it?

>>132620910
>But the black market is much more expensive than the regular one even with taxes.

Nope

>>132619854
But those people are retarded. Black market goods are usually much more expensive than regular goods. The parties involved take big cuts for themselves because they have to run a criminal enterprise and are risking a lot. So why would anyone buy black market weed if the regular weed is cheaper?

>>132617196
Just industrialize it.
You already have people who are illegally growing weed to sell to druggies, why not utilize that and employ those people so that you have more weed?
Canadians aren't very smart.

>>132621067
see >>132621069

they're going to come to based Oregon for our beautiful buds.
Confirmed Canadians are worse than Californians.

USA should export to them.

>>132621069
How many times do you need to be told it is cheaper on the black market?

>>132621541
>pretending we don't already.

>>132621517
Yeah, I saw that. Just as wrong as your other post.

>>132621069
>>132621069
>clearly knows nothing about black market weed

>>132621560
Why would goods be cheaper on the black market? The price of avoiding the law is higher than the taxes you pay. Unless the weed tax is stupidly high.

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How the fuck are you not able to grow enough weed? It's not exactly a delicate orchid or rare spice - it's called weed for a fucking reason.

>>132621657
Hey I only know about black market weed. In my country I can't get any other kind.

>>132621541
Agreed Canadian weed sucks Burger weed is the best in the world now

>>132619658
Legalized just in time for his re-election. I legalized weed! I'll legalize communism too!

>>132621732
Legal growers sell on the black market too

>>132621067

It depends. how much weed costs on the black market depends on your location and how well you personally know who's selling it. If it's your best friend or a family member, then yeah, you'll get it for dirt cheap, cheaper than any legal dispensary.

However if it's a "friend of a friend" or some guy you barely know, then their risk of selling to you increases, so, the price increases.

Back when I used to buy illegally? It was standard for 1/8th to go for $50, $40 if the guy had sold to you a few times and you've hung out with him a bit and of course like $20 to his best friends and family. You had no strain selection, it was just whatever they had.

Now I have a medical card and buy at $10 a gram, or $35 an eighth, which is a better deal than I was getting illegally and I also have much better selection.

>>132621732
>>132621877
What country? Fuck the meme flags
I'm a legal grower, LEGAL. I can grow and sell it at$10 an ounce and still make profit it I felt like it.
>weed tax is stupidly high
No shit.

>>132621877
well take it from a canuck who works in the industry - Legal weed = ~10$ a gram

Black market weed = ~5$ a gram

And the black market weed is about 3-4 times more potent.

DUDE

>>132622042
What state are you in?

Washington you can get top shelf indoor for 2gms for $10 like gorrilla glue

>>132622022
Only reason that would happen is if the black market could offer a higher price for their weed than the regular market. Either the legal weed sellers are taking too big profits, the taxes are too high or there is very little risk from running the black market. The law should crack down on the black market or lower the taxes on regular weed.

>>132622103
Black market weed is better, not sure if it's that much more potent.
Us growers do not sell our good stuff to dispensaries. They are more of a clearing house for what most call our B grade buds.
The best weed out there you cannot buy at all, and is only gifted from growers.

I'd like to thank all you leafs for not treating your own people but instead exporting all your medical cannabis to us. :)

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>>132617196
>Canada not capable of growing a fucking weed.

>>132622022
exactly
>>132621877
there is more money to be made that is tax free on the black market. Limitations on how much a person can grow, store and sell in the clear market limit the profits of a grower. In the black market these limitations do not exist. The mantra is "grow as much as you can without getting caught and sell wholesale until there's nothing left"
Pounds of excellent outdoor go for 800 - 1000 in bulk. 'Bulk' is defined by the grower and there is no standard amongst growers. Anything above 3 pounds will land me that price. However, other growers I know require 10+ for bulk pricing.

>>132622103
How does that even happen? The only other industry where that happens is tobacco because of retarded tariffs and regulation. How much are legal growers paid for their weed on the legal market?

cucks

>>132622285

Montana, we only have medical, and it's always been typically more expensive here.

We couldn't even GET Gorilla glue here prior to medical dispensaries carrying it, it was always beasters.

.. my dispensary (since we have a stupid system where you have to register one provider) doesn't have Gorilla Glue, but I did get some GSC and Super Lemon Haze yesterday which I really like.

This can only lead to senseless Weed Wars

>>132619705
Yeah, just like all that black market liquor we buy to get around taxes

>>132622042

there are a few places in CO with $130/oz normal pricing

>>132619554
You mean the over-regulated crony market where these government commies sell licencees to their friends.

Legal weed is honestly a joke. You can already get weed practically anywhere. It's just that people are tired of getting in trouble for a plant.

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>>132622440
>be american
>think you know anything about quality weed

I've seen your weed burger, brown mexican shit that I would literally throw in the garbage. Don't talk to me about quality weed because you are completely clueless on the subject.

>>132621732
https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/11/legal-marijuana-prices-are-plunging-in-colorado-bu.aspx
This is a good summary of the issue. Pot is cheaper on the black market because the tax is 30%, growers and distributors are heavily regulated, and licenses to grow and sell commercially are limited, although purchase of those licenses by a few people with lots of cash (funding lots of production) has recently allowed for a drop in price.

>>132622642
Legal weed is sold at dispensaries for around double of what growers get for it there.

>>132622857
>I've seen your weed burger, brown mexican shit

How? I never have, at least not since the 80's.
>quality weed
If you knew anything about weed you'd know it's all about genetics, not local of grow-op.

>>132622700
I don't even live in Montana but when I went there I was able to get some nice buds, tangie actually, from a nice old woman living in a trailer in the middle of fucking nowhere. Look harder you'll find it, you're a state away from WA and OR, can't be that hard to find

>>132622857
poor quality b8

>>132623019

as a cripple (why do you think I have a medical card) doing a lot of legwork in shady neighborhoods is not a good idea.

besides I like selection. Never had real selection before legal.

If leafs have been smoking so much that they're actually running out, even with mexico relatively close? It explains the stupid shit leafs have been up to recently and why leafs are such fucking retards on pol.

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>Weeds already legal in my state (MA)
>Just waiting until next year when shops can open up and sell legal bud

Gonna be lit senpai.
In moderation of course.

>>132623183
>cripple
>legwork
fair enough

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>>132622642
I can actually explain this. The legal weed is more often than not paid for by some kind of subsidy, either through insurance, Veteran's Affairs, medicare, workers compensation, etc...

So at the end of the day, the consumer doesn't pay a thing or maybe a tiny co-pay of 10 or 20 bucks, even though his ounce was 250$ rather than the 150 he'd pay on the black market.

For instance - veterans on medicinal marijuana used to get 10 grams per day (!!!!) free from the VA, until the VA realized that's way too fucking much and cut it to 3/day

>>132623016
>Legal weed is sold at dispensaries for around double of what growers get for it there.
OK so a guy previously said legal weed is $10 a gram while black market is $5 a gram. With what you said it would mean that black market dealers aren't making a profit at all.

>>132623183

Selection is the nice perk of legalization.

Legal weed will cost more, but you can be sure it's not mixed with anything else, and you get at least a couple dozen choices, rather than your dealer giving you whatever they have at the moment.

>>132623363

Oh that's Canada's system though, in the US where there's legal weed it's a cash only business. There's no subsidies paying for it.

>>132617537
Seriously. They call it weed for a reason its really easy to grow.

>>132617196
I wonder how much I could make moving a few lbs from Florida to Canada.

>>132622042
this pretty much, if you know the right people close enough to the supply you can get q's for 50 here. if not you can end up paying up to 70 a q

>>132623171
There really are poster that ignorant here.
I've heard the same thing many times.
In all actuality the best weed normally is coming out from where it is most legal.
You start with good genetics and look for the best phenotypes, this is best done where you can grow out many plants to look for the best phenotypes.

I know a guy in California that germinated 5000 seeds just to look for 2 females to breed with.

>>132623393
On the black market all profits go there, and not to taxes. Of course they still make profit.
There is much to be had when it is grown for 5 per ounce and sold for 200 to 400. Also some growers sell their own and not through dealers

>>132623016
>>132623171
I'm a bit older than you newfags... If you don't know that the majority of your quality weed in the US comes from BC you are functionally retarded.

If you actually knew the industry you would understand that growers in Colorado pay us faggot maritimers gigantic consultation fees to show you how to grow your fucking bud. If you don't believe me look up Organigram. And that's us retarded maritimers. The buds grown in BC are leaps and bounds ahead of the stuff the LP's in the east produce.

If you seriously think the US grows better marijuana than BC you are completely delusional and not worth another second of my time

>>132619554
Wrong Flag

>>132623540

before the medical card I kind of called bullshit to all the people who talked about the different flavors and smells they get because all weed smelled skunky as far back as I could remember.

Now there's berry flavors, grape flavors, and lemon flavors and some that for god knows why smell almost like gasoline

>>132623878
>I'm a bit older than you newfags..
I am 47 and started growing outdoors in 1984

>If you don't know that the majority of your quality weed in the US comes from BC you are functionally retarded.
No, but anybody that thinks or believes this is.

As more states allow fully legal personal grows outdoors, the price of bud is going to plummet. I can grow 6 plants in my backyard and yield like 5 lbs dry. More than I can smoke or give away in a year before I start another grow. Its no different than tomatoes. If a friend want 20 I don't give a fuck, it's stupid easy and cheap to grow.

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>>132617196
time to move to canada and grow weed
wasn't my first choice of career, but it seems like it could be an economically sound one

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>>132622803
what the fuck