Are MGTOWs useless cucked betas?

dumbasses

if youre too pussy or stupid to claim a decent woman, your genes need to end with you

>>132615573

Varg BTFO MGTOWs forever. They should never be discussed again after viewing this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSqrbdM8XjI

>>132615573

How many times does this need to be discussed? MGTOW/MRA is a form of natural Eugenics. This is something /pol/ should want, considering its values of a strong race.

>>132615901
If they don't breed, they don't pass on their beta genes!

>>132615898
My inner /b/tard is leaking out. Moar

>>132615573
The loudest are as stupid as feminazi. The guys who just don't give a fuck is ok tho.

>>132615573
Are you suggesting modern America dengerate women are good?

I consider fat women evil just being lazy with their body. Do you want to marry the gen z girls who shook their ass on cam for pedos and gangbangers?

>>132616135
I now understand that they are just a mirror image of feminists. Both hate anyone who disagrees with you.

>>132616261
I did not really have any contact with loud MGTOW, so I can't judge, but to be honest many of their activism looks just pathetic. If you don't want to fuck - just don't fuck. You can't really make things better by using such methods.

>dedicating your life to a parasite because of three wet holes

MGTOW is the true redpill my friend. Dedicating your entire life to supporting a roastie is the most cucked action you could possibly do. Prove me wrong without simply parroting shaming tactics.

>>132615901
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/thread

same goes for feminazis that age into catladies

into the genetic trash it goes. master races dont build themselves you know...

>>132615573
>Are MGTOWs just betas who are bitter that they were cucked.

Some of they are "useless cucked betas", but I'd argue most of them are "useless UNcucked betas". They kind of realized the rules of the game - That you can't MAN UP your height, facial structre or dick size.

>They outright refuse to have ANY relations with women
Partially true - some of them pump & dump, some of them use escorts, some go celibate. All in all they limit the resources put into vaginas to their required minimum.

>Are they weak "men" who refuse to embrace traditional family values? You tell me /pol/

They are basically the effect of western societies entering behavioural sink stage. They adopted in the sense they refuse to overwork themselves and waste resources to get into a vagina.

Traditional family values have nothing to do with this, as those are already trashed by feminism and sjw's. If there were any left, you wouldn't see men adapting to new sexual / social enviroment.

Have a friend who recently adopted mgtow values. He now spends all his time on Tinder and instagram trying to trick girls into sleeping with him. Pathetic.Hes also recently become obsessed with his health, and is practically starving himself, just like a woman. He has become a real bore desu, but thinks hes the shit. Ling stort short, MGTOW are beta cuck degenerate fags who cant keep their woman in line.

>>132615712
Daily reminder that people who talk about "decent women" have no idea what they're talking about.
Daily reminder that less than 10% of first marriages survive for 10 years.
Daily reminder that "decent women" don't exist only women who don't have better options than you.

>>132617161
So the less they breed, the better. It seems that natural eugenics of both MGTOWs and Extremist Feminists is now a thing!

>>132617195
be a better judge of character, faggot

dont hate the player
hate the game

hate it so much that you pull a game changer and BECOME the woman you can only dream of!!

>>132615573
Angry INCELs attention whoring.
The male version of crazy cat ladies, only organized to pump out the cringe more effectively to the outer world
Pity them, but don't give them any attention
You'll only make things worse for everybody, including them if you do

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>>132615573
>stupid thread just to bring up an r9gay meme
Inb4 but r9gay is factual

>>132617403
I do hate the game. That's why I don't play. Also since fewer than 10% of marriages are "successful" that means that 90% of men who get married are just bad at judging characters. Like women don't change dramatically after getting married and having a child.

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MGTOWs are fucking ridiculous. Just asspie betas that are butthurt that they fail completely with women. Yes, roasties are fucking useless too but you've got to be confident enough to weed through the pack. There are good women out there and if you decide to check out your genes will die with you, and it should probably be that way if you're that inferior.

>>132615573
I don't consider myself MGTOW, but I fucking hate women.

What does that make me ?

>>132615901
There are a lot of forms of natural eugenics. White guilt is a pretty great one.

>>132616113
Careful. I got reported and banned just for replying to retarded shit like that. All I said was, paraphrased, "damn dude, you trolled me, I clicked all 7 progressively zoomed in images trying to find what you were hinting at in the picture, to find you were just meming"
Bam, 1 day ban? Global rule 3 /b/ shit? For a natural reply to someone trolling the thread?

>>132617762
A misoginist?

>>132617762
A Pretty average guy

>>132617298
The Varg talking point is fine and all from a biological perspective, but from an actual logical perspective it isn't. By Varg's argument, africans, niggers, and muslims are the alpha males and the most desirable outcome of being male, because they breed like fucking rabbits. While biologically I could agree with that and say "fine" since they're basically hedging their bets with the number of offspring they have, from an actual logical and value perspective niggers are fucking worthless. They're dumb low quality unskilled garbage.

So yeah...it makes sense from one perspective, but from another it really doesn't. Having a lot of children isn't the only metric of worth for a male unless you believe all worth is derived from passing on your genes.

>>132617762

A normal male? We all hate them. But love them too. If you don't love and hate women you're objectively a faggot.

>>132617751
>there are good women out there
Yea but they are exceedingly rare. Link related.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/marriage-statistics/

>>132615901

Strong race doesn't equal working economy.

To have strong, succesfull males to win the genetical brawl you need weak males to exploit. Nature won't allow one without either.

Less succesfull men also have the chance to breed, but they must put hard work to it, and this fuels civilisation. Shorter and less handsome guys getting laid because of money and status.

mgtow / herbivore men judged this effort not worthy of only having a small % to breed.

This can be cataclysmic in the long run. So you have 8 women pregnant with one, strongest man. Untill we go full robotics there is no chance he will provide for all of them without the help of others. And the other are basically saying "nope, that's your problem".

And even if this somehow works, females are hardwired to only look for STRONGEST men. Even in a situation in which EVERY GUY ON PLANET would be tall, handsome and rich, they would still flock to the top 20% ( let's say pareto principle ).

/bored

>>132615573
>They outright refuse to have ANY relations with women
This is wrong though

>>132617593
Sorry. Were you cucked by your unfaithful wife again? Do you now pay child suppirt to your wife's son now?

What should be done is men marry a woman who respects him and what not, and women marry men who protect/serves them. Mutual submission is key in any marriage.

>>132617891
I think the difference is though MGTOWs aren't afraid to tell women they hate them.

>>132617891
Fuck, I think I may be incapable of loving them, though. But I hate faggots too.

>>132617851
Thanks for your good words, my friend.

>>132617822
But is that good ? Bad ? I want your opinions.

i have seen two friends end themselves for a bitch, been in many relationships, women suck, let low Iq morons do the breeding, watch humanity implode, sounds like a plan, fuck your shaming lenguage, fuck the race, fuck you.

>>132615573
Wow that is not what MGTOW is at all. No one ever said anything about no contact with women. They're just rules for WHEN you interact, refusing the societal pressures of modern feminism and standing as my own man with my own passions and skills.

>>132617805
I never actually clicked on the image, so I don't know if it was a troll or not. I just said it to make a shitty "humourous" joke because I am cancer. I will learn from that mistake.

>>132617751
>and it should probably be that way if you're that inferior.
so whats your point

>>132617762
>I don't consider myself MGTOW, but I fucking hate women.

More likely than not, an irrational idiot. Women are what they are. The only way you're really angry about it if you're still a beta cuck that believed the Disney fairy tale and you still aren't over the fact that it isn't true.

There's literally no reason to even hate them, and there's like a 99% chance you're misdirecting your anger about your own inadequacy at them or your anger at the reality of life at them because you want them to be something they aren't.

>>132615573
Daily reminder that mgtow and mra are broken men.

>>132615901
To keep an economy you need numbers though. There's no society that can survive culling 80% of their population.

>>132617961
No. What should be done is to reverse no fault divorce and remove the bias from family courts.

>>132617893

>Yea but they are exceedingly rare.

Yeah. This is true. I'll concede that.

There's nothing wrong with finding a nice slam pig to satiate your carnal desires while looking though. You aren't going to find the perfect women right away, and actually there are no perfect women.

I'm not an expert it's just been my experience. I'm not even that great with women but I've had modest success over the years. 30 years old and never married, but had some really nice relationships along the way.

>>132615901
Natural eugenics aside, too many of our people are falling for nonsense. I fear the strong are too few in the face of massive 3rd world immigration.

>>132618187
I don't think it's because of my own inadequacy, because my ex would tell me I was handsome, and that I fucked good, and even when we broke up, she would ask for sex and tell me these things.

But you're totally right about me hating them because I want em to be something they're not.

Decent human beings.

Please don't get angry, I believe we can have a good dialogue.

>>132615573
>Are MGTOWs useless cucked betas?
Yes.

>>132618408
Just please don't marry a 30 y/o roastie that convinces you she's a "good" woman. Otherwise all power to you m8.

>>132615573
Courts too biased? I divorced my wife and won custody of our kids by proving she was a crazy slut bitch. The judge was a female who went through the same shit with her husband being the crazy slut bitch and absolutely hated my ex from the start. As soon as my lawyer found out what judge we were getting he turned to me with a big ol fucking grin and said this shit is a slam dunk, and he was right. Am i going to be some antiwoman? Fuck no this movement is for fucking worthless betas. Ill go and have a quick fuck with a hottie. But im watching my step extra careful next time i get into a relationship. You live and learn and until something like that happens to you, you never really learn. You sit there thinking 'man i wish i had this knowledge of this situation before'.

>>132618268
Although there may be a bias in family courts (and other courts as well in the case of Lavina Woodward, someone who may be let off the hook for assult because she is a pretty rich girl who has "potential" to be a surgeon", it does help to know who you are marrying. Always look for red flags and adress them with your SO as soon as you can, to prevent any further damage to either your relationship, or your lives. Even if you just make her aware of her faults early on, it might just allow her to adjust her ways so both of you can be happy. Same applies in reverse as well, for other things too.

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>>132618476
Men aren't decent human beings either. You're cherrypicking. That's what I mean about being irrational. The only reason you probably don't hate men is you don't have to fuck them or have deep personal relationships with them. They're just bros and friends. That's easy.

Maybe it's because I'm an old fuck, but I assure you that men are terrible people too. I already know your mind is firing up to say "women are worse tho", and they really aren't. Or if they are it's not by enough to matter.

>>132618607
If your story is true you got really lucky. Really make sure to watch your step or it might be your last.

>>132615573
>Are MGTOWs useless cucked betas?
No. Some are LARP-ers and some of them got legit buttfucked by the 'evil patriarchal system'. There's real horror stories out there.

ever consider its not a gender thing, but a HUMAN thing? people are shitty, life is unfair.
my parents made sure i understood this before i was 10, just accept it you will be happier

>>132615573

They're the inverse of extreme "political lesbianism"-type, man-hating radfems.

His sign may well be true of radfems. But it's also 100% projection.

>>132615573
the sign this guy is holding is 100% projection.

>>132618757
It's true, men aren't decent human beings either. And I got rid of all of my friends
I still see great men that I would like to befriend. I never see such women.
Maybe that's the main difference.

>>132618721
That emotional dribble solves nothing. Since marriage is a contract between a man, a woman and the state the state should make sure the contract is fair to both parties. Until that get's sorted out no amount of couples therapy will solve the issue.

>>132618607
Sounds like you are trying to make us commit the same mistakes has you did, in my eyes anyone that lives to the sole purpose to make a bitch happy is a beta cuck, i would have marry, if there were virgin bitches left like my father o grandfather married, not like these used up modern whores.

>>132618607
Im glad that you got custody. Your kids being with her may have caused them long term damage. I assume that your kids will turn out to be fine men/women, as it seems like you are actually one of the rare beings called "a good parent"

>>132618607
Statistically, men are better off with a woman judge if she's not a full blown feminazi. Women see easily through other women's bullshit and are less prone to instinctively protect other women as men kneejerkingly do.

>>132618749
Kek

>>132618850
>just walk into that meat-grinder
>don't worry about it
>it can't hurt you if you accept it

>>132619081
ok anon ive tried to help you understand

women will never magically be anything different than what they have been since humans began
everything they do is to make having their ideal family situation a reality whether theyre too dumb to realize/fulfill it or not

i get that women can seem selfish, shallow, stupid, etc. but realize men are also like this

try to see through peoples bullshit, dont marry anyone you havent been committed to for at least 2 years, dont let women treat you any less than youd like to be treated

the realities of life can be harsh, but this is it bud, do the best you can

>>132619878
>everything they do is to make having their ideal family situation a reality whether theyre too dumb to realize/fulfill it or not

You can't really believe that, can you ?
So I guess the millions of abortions are the best for family situation ?

>>132619878
Sure. I agree. Which means the laws that we have should take that into account. Currently they don't. They assume that women are completely altruistic and would never take advantage of the various protections and advantages the law offers them. The harsh reality is that you can't really judge a woman's character until you have kids with her - since women change very drastically after having a child - and at that point it's too late.

>>132618970
More so saying watch the fuck out. But you never know how they turn out. I was with her for 11yrs never expecting this to happen but it did. But im also not completely against getting into another relationship, ill just be extra cautious of redflags next time.
>>132618994
My kids are much happier with me, sad but i know its for the best.
>>132619016
Yep, judge hated her right off the bat with going into only the minimal of details. Once it was all out there, man it looked like she wanted to kill my ex.

>>132615573
>I have recently found out about this group called MGTOW

They are even worse than this hacker group known as 4chan

>>132618749
Oh wow, mgtow btfo forever.
How will they ever recover?

>>132617762
A pragmatist.

We've been immersed in a man hating culture for 50 years. I'd say that's sufficient justification to these days hate them back without giving a shit about the label "misogynist": their hypocrisy nullifies such insults.

>>132620155
>So I guess the millions of abortions are the best for family situation
He's talking about natural female behavior, not feminist indoctrination. Find a conservative traditional girl with a low partner count. Even if there's some feminist brainwashing, if you're dominant and correct that shit right away you can deprogram her. It's not even that hard. Just be a fucking man and don't waver in your convictions.

>>132617762
The last of your line.

>>132617897
As a MGTOW, I don't care to be slave fodder exploited to prop up a game for the benefits of alphas. It's no longer in my interest given the current state of play.

Getting as many men to join us to kick back to trigger accelerated social decay is our gift the rest of the cunts who have gamed this society.

>>132620880
>Just be a fucking man and don't waver in your convictions
Why would you even want a relationship like that? Basically you have to be a tough emotionless brick. You need to pass all the shittests she throws at you and not show any weakness in any situation. That sounds like a heck of a lot of work for little benefit.

>>132620155
i do.

as much as i think unwanted pregnancies should be avoided, id rather a failure woman abort a kid she nor the father want nor can afford

best case scenario, said kid grows up in a foster home or gets adopted
but the kid will still have psychological trauma and stunted development

I didn't know what mgtow meant until ten minutes ago but I see anons posting about it a lot so I looked it up. I used to over think women too.

I see it like this: a man should have some main focus in his life that supersedes everything else, especially women. It's ok to know that bitches are irrational, manipulative, etc but if you actively hate them it takes energy. Once you've got a purpose in life that is more important to you than pussy, it automatically attracts women. I don't know how.

I've got a few buddies who wound up married to absolute qt 3.14's that seem happy years later but those dudes are rare. Most of my friends have some ex wife they've lost a custody battle with or had financial loss. I'm 32 and haven't been married yet because I either choose shitty women or I just haven't gotten lucky. Either way anons, my worthless advice is to not get worked up over women as the nonchalance alone is enough to attract them.

>>132615573
>are MGTOW useless cuck betas
yes
you're welcome
/thread

Who cares if they are betas or not. Live and let live. if you are a beta MGTOW will save you a lot of time and effort explaining that you shouldn't waste time and money.

>>132622282
Correct. Self improvement is an oxymoron. Realising one is actually nowhere likely to alpha in any natural sense, is enough self awareness to know its a world of pain to try to be something you're not.

>>132621313
It's not a lot of work dude. The shittests stop once she learns her place and is actively trying to please you and reach your expectations for her. All I get are comfort tests nowadays. But you should stop worrying about all that shit anyways and not overthink things. If you are actively cultivating her submission to you then she will do whatever you want. Just stop being a bitch and get out of your own head.

>>132615573
Dead end betas

>>132623119
>But you should stop worrying about all that shit anyways and not overthink things
>If you are actively cultivating her submission to you then she will do whatever you want
You can't do both bro. You can't not worry about shit and at the same time be "cultivating submission".

>>132622924
im average-ugly tier so i found someone in my league

we both want a white conservative family so it could work out

no hate on the mgtow movement, i just think some of you may have a skewed perspective based off bad experiences that could have been avoided by noticing red flags

start judging peoples actions, think of what they spend their time doing and why, for what gain

done with this, good luck friends

>>132617533
Hope you get VIOGENized, cuck.

>>132616606
I'd rather dedicate my life to something that is real, rather than an invisible god.

>>132623750
Just train your girl like a dog bro. Set expectations for her and when she does a good job, encourage and praise her. When she fucks up, put her in her place. Soon the shit becomes habitual and she respects you for keeping her in line. It's really not that hard. Not all girls are shit-tier, but there are no unicorns. You need to find one that's promising and train her to meet whatever standards you think are important.

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>>132615573
Loving you
Isn't the right thing to do
How can I ever change things that I feel?

If I could
Baby I'd give you my world
How can I
When you won't take it from me?

You can go your own way
Go your own way
You can call it another lonely day
You can go your own way
Go your own way

Tell me why
Everything turned around
Packing up
Shacking up's all you wanna do

If I could
Baby I'd give you my world
Open up
Everything's waiting for you

You can go your own way
Go your own way
You can call it another lonely day
You can go your own way
Go your own way

I make 65k at my job. Almost 100k in the bank. 28y.o. mgtow

What abt you

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Here's another DAILY reminder that there is no reason to be mad at MGTOW.
If they really are useless betas, then who cares if they don't interact with women?
Their choice harms you in no way whatsoever. Nothing they do keeps you from leading a fulfilling life.
Yet there is always thread after thread filled with anti-MGTOW butt hurt. I can't decide if it's a case of "why don't these people want the same things I want boy am I angry" or a case of "why won't these people give women attention, how mean"
Either way, grow up. Different people make different life decisions. They aren't harming you, so cool your jets

>>132624402
Training isn't enough. The woman needs to be dependant on you to stay. Even if she respects you or whatever she can change her mind at any time at the current laws allow her to separate from you and keep the income. That's just not a risk I'm willing to take.

>>132615712
>hurrr never mind about societal discriminatory practices against men and the fact that marriages are a financial death trap since divorce rulings are always ruled heavily in favor of the woman if you don't make the retardedly risky decision of marrying an ex-slut you're a loser!
kys

>>132617403
>dont hate the player hate the game
oh you get your advice from braindead nigger rappers. no wonder it's so fucking terrible

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>90% of niggers act shitty
>>oh well its logical that you'd stop associating with niggers

>90% of women are shitty
>>DUDE WHY ARENT YOU FLAGELLATING YOURSELF FOR A WHIFF OF PUSSY LMAO

>>132615573
As long as you get someone pregnant, spread your genes into the cesspool of society-and take care of your little bastard, then your life has been fulfilled.

MGTOW bravely consents to having their innate biological behaviors systematically repressed, they either are deluded enough into believing that just because society caters to women they need not apply themselves to society, or they believe that it is a well enough excuse for them to not initiate into a relationship. Regardless, women are idiotic but there is no need to completely repress your natural desires.

more women pretending to be men to get men to stop ignoring them

kill yourselves freaks, enjoy race mixing

>>132626192
>>132626432
Good boyim

remove women rights ASAP.

women only spread hate, that is literally all they do.
women destroy societies and nations.

hate to say, but muslims have the RIGHT attitude and treatment to women. they simply do.

and no, im not a mudslime and i despise mudslimes.
but they procreate and we dont. reason : women have rights. in other words : we have litle children power to decide over civilisation. what other result would one expect ? some men fell for the delusion, that women were people like men. an idea which noone disprive petter, than women themselves.

remove womens 'rights' ( unearned anyway ), ignore them, shame them, punish them, hold them account them and expose them wherever u find them ( they all always lie and spread hate and falsehoods )

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>70% of nonwhites vote for liberal policies+politicians
>>hwhul gotdamn, that means ALL shitskinned nonwhites are worthless libruls! Ain't no such thing as a good nonwhite if so many of them vote librul!

>70% of women vote for leftist+liberal policies
>>b-b-but NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT! m-muh 40 year old white women who voted for Trump! THEY HAVE VAGINAS THOUGH

really warms up my brake fluid

>>132615573
>Playing a rigged game
>embrace traditional values
>weak men

You sure do like to complain and shame just like a woman, anon.

this

>>132615573
>Are they weak "men" who refuse to embrace traditional family values?

I embrace traditional family values completely.

Women don't.

Fuck them

>>132628853
That's one of the final redpills on /pol/. The so-called "tradcon" type crowd is, position-for-position almost an exact foil of feminists when it comes to the gender issue.

According to feminists, the only reason women are so unhappy and unfulfilled is because "it's men's fault, men aren't good enough, men can't work 8 hours a day and subsidize my vagina"

According to ((("tradcons"))), the only reason women are so unhappy and unfulfilled is because "its your fault bro, you're not good enough, you're not working 8 hours a day to subsidize some woman's vagina"

If you've been on /pol/ long enough then you've seen this exact tautology before.

>>132615573
>Are MGTOWs useless cucked betas?

Yes. It's also why there is a massive overlap with trumpcucks.

>>132629740
It's because these fucking retards worship women for no reason other to than to get laid.

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>>132628183
Women don't need removal. Just removal from political life. Put them back in the home.

>>132617593
>Also since fewer than 10% of marriages are "successful"

only 42% of marriages end in divorce you underage cuck.

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>>132630598
>It's because these fucking retards worship women for no reason other to than to get laid.
Yeah, and women are noticing that the proverbial worm has turned. That's why there's literally dozens of female "right-wing e-celebs" now. I know it's reddit, but...pic related...
>tl;dr: women have anticipated this ideological shift

>>132630783
>Women don't need removal.
Never said they do. But pandora doesn't go back into the box.

>>132615573
>Are MGTOWs useless cucked betas?

Yes. It's also why there is a 100% overlap with trumpcucks.

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>>132629740
We can only hope someday they will open their eyes.

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>>132631222
It's scary how accurate the text in that image is.