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22 NIGGER

>>132603415
>22
uh huh now explain to me how figuring this out means FUCK ALL for life chances

>>132603820
It doesn't.

IQ test questions vary from the ability to evaluate your surroundings quickly, all the way to simple mathematic equations, and spotting patterns.

This is only one question, you can't cherry pick a single question from an IQ test.

>>132603982
It wasn't my intention to cherry pick an esoteric problem, but to point out the dubious value of IQ scores based on their trickiness
Once you learn the trick, you can utilize it and apply it in subsequent tests very easily, but here in the U.S., students are given 1 (one) IQ test at an early age that determines their tracking and academic placement
>white families are more likely than black families to prepare for IQ / GATE tests

>>132603982
I forgot to add:

You can have good mathematics skills and general "skill" in life, but still be a total and utter moron.

I knew someone who went to a private school, used to get A+'s and A's in pretty much all subjects yet when it came to common sense and intelligence he just lacked it.

No, he didn't have autism.

>>132603820
>easily distinguishing patterns is not helpful in situations that have patterns
get's the ol noggin joggin eh?

>>132604203
>situations that have patterns
name some trades/occupations with pattern recognition identical to IQ tests?

>>132604271
maybe not identical, but similar

>>132602293
>crosses
You got your cultural bias right there, Christcuck.

>>132604290
>>132604271
Things like watching the stock exchange, seeing a pattern in losses and gains before taking risks.

Prediction making, pretty much

>>132604142
fuck off nigger
go back to africa

>>132604162
>>132604361
If there were patterns in the stock market which could be exploited, we'd use calculus and automate trading.

But there arent because the stock market isnt predictable.

>>132602293
>IQ tests are culturally biased
But it's true anon. Certain cultures don't have numbers or abstract language

>>132604142
Saying that white families are more likely than black families in itself is a racist insinuation.

What about lower class, low intelligence outback white families? I doubt they'll even know what an IQ test is.

>>132604547
Wtf we do use algorithms to automate trading. The most successful hedge fund on earth has been using an algorithm to get 30% returns for 30 years.

so what is the answer to ops pic?

>>132604569
Certain races can't think abstractly either

>>132604547
But it is, you dumb nigger.

They're not 100% accurate predictions, they're predictions based off of the current pattern they're witnessing.

If value of something is going up in increments of 2, they'll spot this, and take a risk.

Just because it looked stable doesn't mean It will be, they may see the pattern - take the leap - and suddenly that investment they made goes to shit.

Predictions don't give you a risk-free outcome, they just make the risk less.. risky.

>>132602293
>tfw can't figure out the answer
am I a retard?
>it seems to be either odd or even numb- oh wait
>6 times 2 is 12 and 12 times 2 is 2- oh wait
>maybe if I add the horizontal-
fuck this gay shit

>>132604672
22
Add the numbers in the identical boxes in the top crosses to get the answer in the bottom left cross
>4 + 3 = 7
>1 + 7 = 8
>2 + 11 + 13

Now subtract the same numbers in the top crosses to get the right cross (ignore negatives)
>4 - 3 = 1
>1 - 7 = 6
>2 - 11 = 9

now add together the bottom crosses to get the center cross
>7 + 1 = 8
>8 + 6 = 14
>13 + 9 = 22

>>132604271
k
doctors
architects
mathematicians
welders
farmers
literally anything you can become better by seeing it done
recognizing what could be improved and improving it

>>132604672
22
The center cross minus the lower-left cross is the lower-right cross. It took me about 5 minutes to realize that the numbers within the crosses aren't related, but the crosses are inter-related instead.

>>132604665
Sounds like bullshit to me.

Why arent others using algorithms to get such returns? Mutual funds for example.

>>132604609
But it's not a racist insinuation, what the fuck do you think summer camp is?
A privileged academic activity that helps student retain knowledge while underprivileged kids jack off all summer

>>132602293
Probably 7

Add up all numbers

>>132604773
patterns in the stock market are an illusion and arent useful for making accurate predictions.

You may as well look at patterns in the tea leaves. The fact you dont understand this simple fact tells me you have zero understanding of what the market is.

>>132603820
It's pattern recognition in a timed test. A way to think of it is that it is measuring the speed of your brain's CPU

>>132605246
Well that makes a bit more sense

>>132602293

Muh dik

>>132604846
Why do you subtract? It's Left Top + Right Top + Right Bottom. Same positions of course.

It's 16

>>132605478
Delete this! Or use a meme flag the next time!

22
>tfw this too me forever because I was trying to look for a relationship within a shape rather than across shapes
>tfw low IQ

i really like the ones that subvert your expectations
having 5 separate boxes tricked me into thinking the answer was in the individual boxes
Didn't think that you actually had to use all of them to get the answer
the dude who made this was bretty clever

>>132605427
merely an alternative way that uses the bottom right cross

>>132605888
left cross I mean

>>132605778
you can get a lot better by just doing a couple

>>132605619
It actually makes sense if you disregard the upper right one. Even number in the middle: left digit: difference of left and down, right digit right and up. uneven: left number: difference of right and down, right digit: difference of left and up.

>>132605921
And that's exactly my point, you can get better and literally increase your IQ, but the American education system is set up to test kids when they're really, really young and the outcome of that score influences their entire primary school career

>>132604846
>ignore negatives
This is not a good test

>>132604846
aren't the first two steps kind of unnecessary?

also looked for an answer in the individual fields

>>132606008
you teach yourself to recognize patterns better
ie teach yourself to be smarter
what do you not understand

>>132606094
They're not steps, it was showing the relationship between the boxes in the crosses

>>132606008
also give an average nigger hours of tutoring and he'll still be a 80IQ retard

>>132606222
Do you even Flynn effect?

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>>132606303
do you even iq distribution bro?

>>132606426
family environment can confer a very significant advantage when it comes to IQ
Now consider shit-tier black culture and the legacy of institutional discrimination

>>132606212
yeah but the relationships between all of the crosses aren't needed to find the answer. the top three boxes of the bottom three crosses are enough to establish the pattern.

>>132602293
If you take an IQ test you obviously don't have a good Intelligence.

>>132606667
explain

>>132606667
online meme tests are indeed for shitters

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>>132606719
wasting your time considering your own intelligence when you could be fending off invading third worlders.

Anyone that wastes their time on such shit deserves to be raped a gang of muslims.

>>132605185
Efficient market hypothesis is wrong.

>>132606591
>being this new
>not acknowledging that it's only logical to assume that there would be behavioral differences between groups that branched off more than 50k years ago to drastically different environments
>being a civic nationalist cuck
>trying so hard to reaffirm his retarded views
you're probably a spic as well

>>132605478
Me thinks so, too, but I don't even know why.

I find the other explanations here to be not convincing.

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>>132604846

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>>132607472

>>132603820
>People who can understand patterns more quickly can understand patterns more quickly

Migration patterns, rain cycles (which Africans are still surprised by), seasonal cycles, hunting patterns of predators, behavior patterns of animals => exploit => tame => domesticate

>>132603415
Concur

>>132602293
22

>>132602293
>IQ test
more like autist test. anyone who bothers without scrolling down/peaking (socializing) is an autismo
>>132608156
just add the bottom 2 sperg.

>>132604846
Why so many steps anon, just add 13 and Once verified that the bottom 2 crosses equal the centre cross its simple

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>>132608156

>>132606072
What are absolute numbers

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>>132602293
22, took me a while.

>>132608156
nice, I actually did it another way and came to 22

>>132602293
iq of 150 and i can't spot the pattern

your test is trash

>>132604162
>hey! I've got this single anecdote that apparently disproves the established predictive power of IQ vis-à-vis real world success

>>132602293

21? I think its 21.

>>132604142
>students are given 1 (one) IQ test at an early age
I do not recall every being IQ tested in school.

>>132602293

Wait. 22.

>>132609573
same, although I wish we did. I excel at pattern recognition and tests. I never did any projects in school, never took notes, but when it came to test time I always performed well.

>>132609447
oh nvm the top 2 are red herrings

just add the bottom two

>>132609742
there's multiple ways to arrive at the correct answer.

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>>132602293
i really dont understand this
>tfw brainlet

>>132609742
They aren't red herrings, if you add/subtract them you get one of the low crosses which shows the pattern.

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>>132609742
still trash

>>132609742
>Red herrings

No, they sum to the corresponding boxes of the lower left object.

That's part of the pattern

>>132609834
At first glance or after people have been explaining it?

I didnt get it either, and to be honest all these pictures people areposting are fucking retarded. But once someone said the answer i instantly saw how it was derived.

>>132610015
if you sum up top right and bottom right box you get the top left box

if you sum up top right and top left you get bottom left box

if you sum up bottom left and bottom right box you get the middle box

Some cultures don't have numbers you racist pig

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>>132610015
I might be mentally challenged

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nice try you wont fool me

16 guess only

>>132602293
IQ test are gullibility tests. To do well you need to be habituated that the world isn't tricking you on purpose or with noise or at least be able to channel that. It is hard to remain interested in finding those sorts of patterns into adulthood. The knowledge isn't generally productive.

>>132609875
A?

>>132609875
I see no pattern but i think its definitely A E F or C. Leaning for E or F, those look most right

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>>132602293
Answer is 19. There's no pattern other than the top number of the cross being multiplied by 3 to get the middle of the cross.

>>132610578
>The knowledge isn't generally productive
Thats because modern society trains you to be retarded in exchange for productivity.

I assure you someone who does good on IQ tests would survive the post apocalypse better than the average normie with a job.

>>132602293
24?

>>132604162
This seems more like the difference between crystallized intelligence and fluid intelligence. He's not a moron unless he lacks both.

>>132603820
Cellwise adding the number of the rightmost crosses produces most of the top left, add two tops produces all of bottom left, add two bottomd produces (all of?) center?.
This is the only explanation I can come up with and I strongly believe it makes no sense. You can just add the three top and right ones as well, which also makes no sense.
I think this is testing numerology rather than pattern matching ability.

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>>132610255
see how the 3 numbers linked by the lines relate to each other

>>132610176
>if you sum up top right and bottom right box you get the top left box
Yez dont

>>132602293
It's VERY easy if you remove the top 2 figures.
Fucking hate puzzles with distractions like that, makes the whole thing irrational.

>>132610824
if that is true then you had no way of getting 19 without a straight up guess.

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>>132610596
are you sure bro?

>>132602293
16

>>132609873
Hints then. If you understand the way the test maker is speaking you can Ace the test because you won't miss the hints. It is a test of rapport between test takers and the test maker. Actually very liable to be culturally biased.

>>132609742
>the top 2 are red herrings
>>132611386
>It's VERY easy if you remove the top 2 figures.
But then it cant make sense.
If there are once off exceptions or red herrings in boxes then the answer could be anything. There's not any pattern.
The question is find the pattern, not pull any some reason out of your arse pocket.

>>132611386
They're not distractions, they sum to the bottom left and reduce to the bottom right.

>I can only see one layer of the puzzle but think I know everything

>>132611798
>realize i always got 100% on multiple choice tests even though i often had no idea about the subject

>use a combination of linguistic knowledge and general knowledge to figure out which presented answer was the correct one.

I maintain that most stupid people are incapable of this though. Most stupid people arent going to think about root words or use knowledge of other subjects to gain insight in what they are currently having to do.

I also maintain this is more useful than learning anything specific.

>>132602293
9+13 faggots.

>>132611386
>low iq detected
without distractions, you're only useful in a classroom
real life has tons of distractions, red herrings, noise, cons, etc

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>>132611843
You don't need them to get the answer. You're doing unnecessary work.

>>132604846
>only do 2 at a time
I was trying to figure out the relationship within the crosses or between all 5. Kinda silly to present 4 solved boxes when only 2 are necessary though.

>>132609875
F

>>132611843
It's probably one of high-end questions. IQ tests supposed to have ones only very small percentage at the far end of bell curve can properly answer.

>>>>132611843
Good pattern recognition has a noise filter. Finding obscure shit on autopilot (which is the only way to do it in a timely manner ) is suboptimal in life.

One could train themselves to do it for a test like a meditator can control their heartbeat but why?

>>132602293
Two same boxes added of the top two crosses = lower left number of the same box. Now take the lower left box number and add it to the lower right box and you get the answer in the middle.

>>132612237
Thats really kind of stupid though, in a test like this its reasonable to assume that everything is part of the pattern you are supposed to find.

Honestly im not convinced its 22, 22 could be the idiot trap answer, there could some fancy math you use all 4 crosses for that makes the answer in the top 4 boxes equal to what they would be if you added up just the bottom crosses, but the final box something totally different.

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>>132612381
Took me a while to figure out the pattern. Spent a bit of time trying to find a pattern that worked on each box.

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i couldn't do it

>>132612425
Kek

>>132611843
>But then it cant make sense.
It can absolutely make sense, in fact it would've been a lot easier without the top 2.
>see 7, 1 with 8
>see 8, 6 with 14
>see 21, 3 with 24
>see 11, 1 with 12
>obviously 13, 9 is 22
The top two are only required if you're going to expand on it and add some question marks in the bottom two.

>>132612763
This guy gets it.

>>132604846
2 - 11 = 9
I knew this had no logical pattern. Randomly taking the absolute number is not a pattern

>>132612256
You need them for actual proof of a universal solution.

Otherwise you just have a case specific solution which may or may not work in broader context.

Which is sometimes okay, but a universal solution is always better

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>>132602293
It's this you mongaloids.

> actual high IQ

>>132611386
pretty easy to see a pattern when you just look at all the same tiles from the different crosses

i guess the smart cunts would just instantly figure out there is no pattern within each cross

IQ tests always make me feel retarded

>>132604142

You can learn the problem form, but not the solution.

https://youtu.be/D7Kn5p7TP_Y?list=PL22J3VaeABQApSdW8X71Ihe34eKN6XhCi&t=5108

Start at about 1 hour, 15 minutes. They go through some IQ problems starting with a very simple one. The "trick" to the problem is discussed. The later problems get so complex, that no one can solve them quickly enough to respond.

By placing easy problems early in the test, and harder ones later, you can mitigate the benefit of knowing the "trick" before the taking the test.

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>>132611442
fkn triangles mane

>>132612414
I'm going for F

>>132612924
Why did you write 13+9=21 then anon? I think you're missing a number.

>>132612924
>actual high iq
13+9=21
Kek

>>132605778
Yea I did the same, but most questions are like that.

Also pretty annoying how the top two crosses have 0 to do with figuring out the center cross.

True patrician way to solve this puzzle is by using the top two and the bottom right.

>>132611560
The answer is E

>>132602293
22
It's 13+9 on the bottom row.

>>132613254
they don't have anything to do with figuring it out directly, but they can help show that the relationship is across shapes rather than inside them.

>>132609875
>>132613348
oh Fug I meant it for this one

>>132612924
>2 of the figures completely irrelevant
>just there as red herrings
Either a shit solution or a shit problem.

>>132613227
>>132613160
Sweetie, I think that I would know if I made a simple error like that, now wouldn't I?

> 184IQ Mensa global initiative member

>>132613481
they are not irrelevant. Lol "shit problem"

>>132612863
Nah, because it is all purely random. What you see in the question is a vignette that in reality is set into zillions of purely random numbers and plusses

A smaller piece of the repeating pattern has as much claim to representing the whole as a larger one. Any pattern in data can be swamped by enough additional data. Since we are viewing a vignette, why would you need a large one?

Maybe it is to test working memory. Just a guess though.

>>132602293
? should be 5 I spend almost 10min to figure this out, can't believe I'm even Asian

>>132609875
Is there really a pattern? I don't see shit.

>>132611560
no. is this one B?

>>132609875
B (snake pattern)

>>132608156
Wait, you're just supposed to ignore the bottom left cross? What a retarded test.

>>132609875

>50 MIN AGO
>STILL HASN'T POSTED ANSWER
FUCK YOU POST ANSWER

>>132613719
If the case expands to zillions, then you'll get a probability distribution of possible solutions within the space.

Then your global solution becomes a set [s1,s2,...,sN] which you should step through from highest occurrence to lowest for any new data.

I spend all day teaching computers, this is a bit of a specialty

7
I'm White. It took me 47 seconds.

>>132613488
we're just asking for more of an explanation you fucking self-absorbed fuck, go be sad you don't fit in with anyone else because you have an enormous IQ somewhere else.
>t. 130IQ

>>132602293
"the linguistics section of IQ tests are culturally biased"*
there, I fixed it for you

>>132614065
the closest i can see to a pattern is that every arrangement of triangles appears twice except the top middle and bottom middle, and the only one that has a triangle arrangement matching one of those is A.

>>132609875
I took this test and got 125ish even though I have actual low IQ, it seems very hard to get an average IQ on this test

you can't know your real IQ until you get tested by a trained professional in person. otherwise you are testing apples and oranges

that said I have no idea what the answer to this one is

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>>132614038
Anyone who doesn't use all four patterns at the corners is a faggot

>>132604142
>Once you learn the trick, you can utilize it and apply it in subsequent tests very easily

no you cant, get some culture and learn how IQ test are made and developed

>>132611560
A

>>132614164
Bottom left cross is the top two crosses added together, so you can either ignore it and add the top left, right, and bottom right crosses, or just add the bottom two crosses together

>>132611560
generally these fucked up ones having something to do with the symbols changing as they move

>tfw high IQ people can notice the pattern very quickly

>>132614414
130IQ brainlet, go back to facebook lad, this site is for people that aren't niggers.
Also are you actually retarded, I mean, is saying sweetie not enough to tip you of that I'm fucking with you? The question is a pyramid sort of thing, the addition of the left corner of the two shapes below is the number in the left corner on the shape above, and so on with each corisponding location on each shape.

>>132615031
>absolutely sweetie

>>132614822
How are you getting the denominators?

>>132615031
You definetly know how to talk pure bullshit
>taking the bait

>>132615167
not meant to be denominators they are just "numerators" divided by their largest common divisor

>>132612979
>opened this
>computer crashed
spooky

I like how people dropping this "A", "F" w/o any explanation.
There is always this retarded people in the room who make "le thinking face" then coming with something like: "13? no? meh..." and keep pretending that they actually trying to solve shit.
So fucking pathetic.

>>132615528
K

"Spent five minutes trying to find the pattern and gave up but immediately understand it once hinted at" m-m-m-master race here.
I can't think creatively, but applying the creativity of others is n-n-no problem hahahhhahhah
>twf you're a chink on the inside
pls dont take my white card away

>>132615538
u wot? explain exactly how you get them

>>132602293
Lol I just realized failing puzzles doesn't lower my IQ.

>>132615740
they get those answers by trying to spot mini-patterns and then picking the one that most seems correct by that. they don't solve it but make an educated guess

I didn't get the correct answer. OP is a faggot.

>>132609875
The first pattern that occured to me, is that the first column is the rotated version of the last column from the above row.

>>132606303
>>132606591
Flynn effect is intergenerational, not within an individual's lifespan, and there's no IQ intervention that's ever been demonstrated to improve IQ beyond maybe a third of a standard deviation at most (and even then, that's not longitudinal)

Is pattern recognition and problem solving really the same thing?

>>132616178
they are probably rotating every step then, and the symbols change each time they are rotated or something

I hate rotating ones, too low IQ to picture them in my head

>>132615740
Ok let me explain my methidology.

I looked for obvious patterns and saw none.

I then focused on the triangles because they are solid colored and distract my tiny brain best :^)

I started looking for patterns in the triangle and saw non, but then i did see that certain things never happened with the triangles. They always tended to be a little spaced out.

Based on this i eliminated B, H, and D as possible answers.

Looking at the remaining ones, Gs triangle pattern had already been used, so i eliminated that.

This left me with A C E and F.

Looking at the non triangles now, A C and E all have the other shapes bunching up, which doesnt 'look right', so my gut tells me F

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>>132613488
> 184IQ Mensa global initiative member
> Australian

Pick one.

>>132609008
>>132609149
>>132609283
>>132614164

I think these questions have more than one answer. Look at my filename. I suspect this is a test with easy solutions and hard solutions. It will depend on your brain which route you chose. If you are dumb or not so dumb your brain chooses the 2 or 3 cross problem to get the answer. A highly intelligent assburger would maybe find a 4 cross solution, with a different number. To make it short: OP is messing with us!

>>132616282
IQ's predictive power indicates that they have a very strong relationship

to me, saying IQ doesn't mean anything because it's just "pattern solving" is like looking at muscle strength and saying "that's just muscle strength, it doesn't mean you squat more"

>>132616282
No, actually, they're not identical, they're just correlated. Pattern recognition and pattern generation (the perception of patterns where none exist) are more powerful in highly intelligent people. At the pathological end, extreme pattern generation is basically schizophrenia.

>>132614822
What in the world is this image trying to say, that burger education is retarded?
Since when 20/4 is 8, or 60/12 is 12?

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>>132615740

>>132616282
Here's a problem, how do you solve it?
Your brain looks at it and sees that it's seen that pattern before, and it knows the solution to that pattern.
Chair is wobbly, that generally means an odd number of legs are too short or too long.

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>>132602293
22

>>132615528
>culturally biasing your test to Hindus
I couldn't possibly figure this out anon!

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>>132607076
Really, so you expect me to believe that mathematical analysis can work to create a reliable algorithm to automate trading and produce guaranteed net gains every year (30% no less) and yet it isnt being used by everyone already, and the market hasnt adapted to it?

I got a bridge to sell you...

>>132602293
This is true. So cultivate intelligence in your culture.

>>132616641
Wow.

>>132611254
if the top two grids don't fit into a pattern why the fuck are they there?

>>132616890
the top two grids are relevant

>>132616641
That's pretty fucking insane for a pattern puzzle. Was this supposed to be a mensa test?

>>132606591
No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

>>132616332
Don't talk yourself into stupid. We are all capable of figuring these out, some people just need a little more time.

Problem solving skills include patience, and it's a very important factor!

>>132616890
they give you extra information to work with while also adding extra complexity

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>>132616890
the top two crosses are another clue of what is happening, add them to form the bottom left cross

>>132613420
I mean, they correlate with the top two, but it's a red herring since you could remove them and it would actual make it easier.

>>132617029
They're completely irrelevant to the final pattern, you could solve the problem considerably easier without them.

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>>132613636
It's a fucking weird solution.

>>132616395
You realise mensa was started in australia dont you.

>>132609190
It didnt take you a while, this question has like 70 correct answers.

>>132616641
holy shit

>>132616641
i dont get it, can someone explain with words?

>>132617277
no they are not completely irrelevant. The bottom two grids are created by the top two and follow the same pattern. Can you honestly not see the link between the top two grids and the bottom two or you just outback shitposting?

>>132617453
Like I said there is multiple ways to arrive at the answer but to say the top two are irrelevant is actually quite funny.

>>132616445
My point is that, by definition, I.Q. is abstract problem solving. So, are multiple choice I.Q. tests that fall into a paradigm of pattern recognition actually reliable in determining general abstract reasoning of someone. Or do these test serve as a measure of solving pattern recognition problems, which I believe to be an element of I.Q. but certainly not the full spectrum of it?

It seems to me that better measure would be any test that has many different solutions to an array of problems. I'm sure official tests like this exist but most online I.Q. tests fall into the pattern recognition trap.

>>132617453
>>132617602
>>132617277
If you see the relations between upper two crosses, you're on the right path to seeing the more relevant relations between the lower and middle crosses.

>>132617527
Holy shit. Thats brilliant. MENSA is a shitposting club. I want to join more than ever now :^)

>>132618021
each tile shifts one to the left at each subsequent picture, when a tile reaches the right it next goes to the left of the next row. when it's on the final cell it goes back to the start.

and then symbols change at every step they take to disguise the pattern

>>132604162

Wisdom is not intelligence.
everybody knows a complete unsocial knob normie about all of the basic aspects of life, like how dish washing works and how the foam is generated, and yet they ace all their exams and get a masters in computers.

>>132611254
what is this faggy test. These things are supposed to be based on patterns in each cross/shape not between each other.

>>132618130
there just aren't any predictors better than IQ though. whatever a better predictive system might be, nobody has come up with it

sure it would be better to jack directly into someone's brain and somehow find out their raw intelligence from pure biology, but this seems effective enough

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>>132618143
>>132618059
Top two are red herrings. This is much, much easier. Without the red herrings, that is.

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Top two crosses contain the numbers 4 and 3 at the peak of the cross. Add them. =7

7 is the number at the peak of the cross on the bottom left. So if adding the peaks of the top 2 crosses gets me the bottom left peak number, add the peak numbers of the bottom crosses and you get 8. 8 is the number at the peak of the middle cross. Follow that pattern for the rest.

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>>132617811
you're over thinking it. upper right is x, upper left is y, lower right is (x+y), lower left is z. middle is therefor (x+y)+z which makes the the ? 22.

I gotta admit, I didn't initially put together the simple addition of the figures to make the other figures, which I guess makes me kind of stupid.

>>132618143
But with the upper two crosses you're just hiding the answer, they're simply irrelevant other than being red herrings.
As I posted before, without them you see
>7, 1 and 8
>8, 6 and 14
>11, 1 and 12
etc.
With them you see
>4, 3, 7, 1 and 8
>1, 7, 8, 6 and 14
>6, 5, 11, 1 and 12
etc.

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>>132617277
>>132617269
>>132617224
>assuming a priori that you have the right answer, to justify ignoring half the input
So this is /pol/.......interesting

>>132617153
Inconclusive.

Selective placement of the kids by the agencies, unknown IQ of the parents, and later adoption age for the black children all play confounding roles. Epigenetic factors completely unaccounted for.

Worse, prenatal environment completely unaccounted for. The whites adopted came from many places, not just in America, but Canada and Europe. Meanwhile, 100% of the black children came from a single poor black area in the central united states. So the transracial adoption study results can be construed as being caused by environment.

It'd be nice if we could get some repeats of the study, also by some different researchers.

>>132616890
Basically to fool you.

>>132602293
22

>>132610853
The military thought the same thing. They conducted studies about pilots being shot down behind enemy lines to see if being smarter correlated to higher survival rates.

They didnt find any such correlation. In fact they found that people with lower IQ's outperformed smarter people just as readily as the opposite.

IQ wasnt an important factor; ability and character traits were.

>>132618059
>The bottom two grids are created by the top two and follow the same pattern.
The bottom two have already been solved m8, the fact there's a relation between the top and bottom is fucking irrelevant.

>>132612924
>13+9
>21

Is this what high IQ looks like?

>>132619048
>They didnt find any such correlation.
>In fact they found that people with lower IQ's outperformed smarter people just as readily as the opposite.
>people with lower IQ's outperformed smarter people
>just as readily as the opposite
That is a very disingenuous way of saying the same exact thing twice. Never mind prefacing repetition with "in fact".

>>132618839
>assuming a priori that you have the right answer, to justify ignoring half the input
It is no input for the middle, it's input for the bottom which is already solved.
Where's the input for the top? Gotta know how that was created according to you guys.

>>132618021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9zN-Cz4FQU
Found this video.

The trick with IQ tests is that they don't test you on just one question and call you smart or not. IQ tests follow a process where elements or patterns that occur in earlier problems appear again in later problems, and because proper IQ tests are timed, they test how quickly you can learn these patterns and apply the knowledge you figured out from earlier questions onto the latter ones. For this reason IQ tests are also wildly invalid if you take them multiple times in a row, they are meant to test a person's ability to quickly incorporate novel information and determine solutions in a small enough timeframe as to mark a statistically significant difference across populations taking the test.

>>132619048
Pilots receive survival training though, they already have good programming on what to do in that situation.

Take people with out instruction on what to do in that situation and see who fares better, see who is able to work out at least a somewhat rudimentary methodology for not dying quicker.

>>132609573
This

>>132618572
Top two arent red herrings the bottom left is the sum of the top two you could add all three in top left to bottom right (excluding bottom left) to get the same answer, stop being an autist.

>>132619048
the human brain has a volume and number of connections which is pretty much the same between individuals and only differes a little between races. IQ tests measure what volume is dedicated to logical thinking and pattern recognition. There are a lot of other intelligences to measure like motoric skills, sensory interpolation, foresight, memory and so on.

>>132609573
>he doesn't remember the weird pattern test everyone had to take after seeing the nurse on penis inspection day
that was an IQ test dude

>>132619506
>There are a lot of other intelligences
not really. this is a common leftist meme to distract from IQ but has never been substantiated

at most you can draw a distinction between spacial IQ and verbal IQ, but they should be roughly equal. them being wildly different usually shows some kind of disorder like autism

>>132619487
this. There are multiple ways to arrive at the correct conclusion. Tbh I didn't even see your way but I just tried it. Nice.

>>132616641
When the top left X moves from the third grid on the top row to the first grid on the second row, it should become X again.

Why is it circle instead?

>>132606591
Wrong. No effect on adult scores.
>>132618839
The only way of satisfying your conditions is comparing lab-grown children from confiscated wombs. If you want to just dismiss all the soft sciences entirely, then go ahead, but don't expect anyone to take your "criticism" seriously.

>>132619634
Oh shit, I DO remember penis inspection day! Not the test though.

Idk how this could fit in, but difference in total sum of thos going left to right on top and bottom is the difference between the middle and bottom numbers of the lower number of the two.

>>132616890
>takes out top grids
>muh IQ is off the charts ayy
>mfw IQ test isn't as easy as tinder

WE

Of course I trust you that this picture has not been altered.

>>132620054
3x on the bottom, -10 on the top

>>132619266
no it's not retard. it's just saying that IQ didn't affect performance.

anyway EQ is way more important than IQ.

>>132618577
What do you mean by those bumps to the right of the first two rows and the left of the last row?

>>132618216
>>132619324
Thanks

>>132602293
Im a doctor with a previous phd in philosophy and this puzzle made no sense to me.

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>>132618577
>mfw not over 9000
kms

>>132620490
Ignore the top two and the answer's obvious.

>>132602293
So cross 1 + 2 gives cross 3. And cross 3 + 4 gives cross 5? If that's the case the difference of cross 1 and 2 gives cross 4

>>132620490
thats because degrees dont measure intelligence, they measure education, that has not been correlated since the 60s, dummy :^)

>>132602293
This is not a good IQ test question. The pattern is simple, it's just hidden among a bunch of unnecessary noise, you have to get lucky to spot it. It's more like Where's Waldo

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>>132609795

>>132620282
>no it's not retard
Yes, dumbass.
>They didnt find any such correlation.
and
>In fact they found that people with lower IQ's outperformed smarter people just as readily as the opposite.
says the same exact thing, only the latter is a much more disingenuous way of phrasing it. Then there's also his usage of "in fact" implying a contradiction of the earlier statement despite prefacing a pure repetition of it.

>>132620645
Yeah i read through the thread and saw the answer, there just isnt any real logic to it. If there's no reason for the answer or pattern then really its just testing observation.

Still, made me feel stupid.

>>132619266
I know. I wanted to pad my post out to seem smarter.

>>132604162
Sounds like every chink I've met

>>132603415
this is correct. all you need is the bottom two crosses and the middle.

if you add together the bottom to numbers with each other you get the middle.

7+1=8
8+6=14
21+3+24
11+1+12
and 13+ 9= x
x being 22

>>132620691
there is no way degrees aren't correlated with intelligence. generally speaking if you take the set of all people with bachelor's and all the people without them, the first group will have average higher intelligence. and it increases at each degree level

but the problem is when people try to take that general correlation and say that because they have a PhD they must have an 150 IQ or something, because they have a bachelor's they MUST be smarter than someone without one. when they do that I'm sure their professors shudder

you only need an 120 IQ or so to manage getting a doctorate so it doesn't mean you'll do that well on one of these tests. I think the average IQ of doctorates is only something like 125-130, and you still have low IQ who slip in by sheer hard work and luck

>>132620490
Any thoughtless computer can make it through school. In fact a normal IQ is probably much better for college.
The honor role students are some of the biggest retards on campus. Can't even hitch a trailer.

>>132620856
The top two can be used but it's in a more complex way to reach the same conclusion so there's no point, they're basically just there to confuse you.

>>132621106
>IQ is probably much better for college.
this isn't true but it's something close to true

an IQ of 125-135ish is best for college. if you have an IQ of 150 it's more likely people will shun you because they don't understand, and more likely you won't submit work because it bores you

academia is basically for the mediocre intelligent. the most intelligent cannot communicate their ideas effectively with people who are basically retarded from their perspective

>>132611560
A

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>>132615528

>>132604271
How quickly you understand new concepts.
That's what IQ measures.
It does not measure "knowledge" or "memory work", its sole focus is to measure your ability to process new information.
It's very effective at what it does.

>>132620490
The way I got it was to add all the numbers in a a given position (from the outer 4 crosses) together, and then subtract that the number for that position in the bottom left cross. That gives you the number for that position.

i.e.

4+3+7+1 (the top number in each of the four outer crosses)=15
15-7(the bottom left cross' top number) = 8 (the top number in the center)

1+7+8+6 (the left number in each of the four) = 22
22-8 (the bottom left's left number) = 14 (the left number in the center)

So
2+11+13+9 (the bottom number in each of the four) = 35
35-13 (the bottom left's bottom number) = 22 (the missing number)

It took me 5-10 minutes of staring at it trying completely arbitrary combinations of the various numbers to try and get the center ones, until I found one that worked for every number.

>>132619832
the leftist meme is that all races have the same brain capacity, which is not true. But do you think that non-intelligent people carry their brain just for dead weight?

>>132621106
>>132621319
I'd say it's mainly work ethic, you rarely fail because you can't understand it's more because you don't understand because you didn't put the work in.

I'm fucking retarded holy shit that looked like Sudoku or something to me.

>>132604846
I thought there was a rule for each connecting box or a rule for two diagonal box. For example, the number for the top box you multiply by 3 and that gives you the answer for the middle box. That words for all of them. I couldn't figure out how to get the rest of the numbers though. My biggest issue was the 3,5,7,9,11 box. All of them are prime numbers except the 9 which I thought was following my previous rule with 3x3=9. So I was trying to make a rule with adding or subtracting the 5,7, and 11 that would also follow all the other crosses but nothing was working. No matter how many bends, exponents, factorials, additions, or subtractions, it wouldn't work for the rest.

>>132621627
I think only the worst lefitsts use that meme. it's obvious that not everyone is born equally intelligent, so the way they try to muddle the waters is introducing 10 different rainbow intelligences that are basically closer to learned behaviors than innate reasoning ability

>>132604162
>Ay yo, you might be book smart, but you ain't got street smarts like me

>>132621349
I did not see that coming

well look at all these geniuses , god you are pathetic insecure scum
all you did was reverse search this image and find the result in 5sec with an explanation
no wonder that two dumbest boards here are /x/ and /pol/

>>132621106
Standard chip on shoulder response
> ha that Nobel prize winner is really stupider than me because i managed to steal money from his pocket

>>132621349
Sieg Heil!

>>132621681
it requires work ethic but that doesn't mean there isn't an ideal IQ to go along with it. all the work ethic in the world won't make a cat pass college, the same goes for someone with very low IQ. only if they get leftists professors in some bullshit liberal arts course can they make it through

I think if you look at the statistics the group with the most percentage of degrees/academic progress will be around the 125-135 group. you will see a dropoff for the extremely intelligent and a dropoff for low intelligence

>>132621349
>swastika
Kek

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>>132621349
EIN VOLK
EIN REICH
EIN FUHRER

PS: I'm not actually a nazi, I'm just meming.

>>132621627
IQ is just how good you're recognizing patterns, and since everything in life is a pattern (even language) it's absurd to talk about other "kinds of intelligences" because, as stated, everything is a pattern. Someone with an IQ of 75 doesn't mean they carry their brain just for dead weight, as it's the thing that allows them to perform even basic things just as moving your arms, but it does mean he is worse at recognizing patterns (and it thus affects his linguistic capacities, scientific capacities... etcetera) than someone with an IQ of 100, and at the same time this one is worse at said thing than someone with an IQ of 120.

>>132621991
Why would you do that? The concepts arent that hard to grasp. Cheating doesnt benefit anyone and a bunch of autist on the internet couldn't give a shit what you score either.

>>132604985
Humans are greedy. And you're a moron for not knowing that, or that automated trading is a thing.

>>132622242
dont tell that to me tell it to ~200 posts above

>>132621991
/vp/ is way more dumb because of the sheer percentage of underage

same for /b/ probably

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>>132621422
>>132620490

I guess in retrospect I put an unecessary step in, you could just ignore the bottom left one instead of including it in the sum and subtracting it after. But I that didn't occur to me until after I started making pic related.

>>132622051
Its actually a pretty valid response unless the high IQ autist actually gets into a job where they don't have to use people or life skills, theyre essentially fucked. To be truley successful your better off having a slightly lower iq with better people skills.

>>132603820
it means you can solve problems better than others. you know like the every day problems people outside of the internet have?

>>132602293
Not gonna lie, I failed it.

Kept trying to find solutions inside the boxes.

>>132619868
>The only way of satisfying your conditions is comparing lab-grown children from confiscated wombs.
Nice strawman. As I already said, really what's needed is to repeat the study a few times, perhaps with different sampling methods, and see if we continue to get the same results. You clearly have zero understanding of statistical methods.

For what it's worth, the problems in the study that I listed were noted by the authors of the study themselves. You have read the study, right? Surely you're not just talking out of your ass here.

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I also dislike smug gooks.

Can I be honorary Aus? It's all so tiresome

>>132620490
Philosophy
Is this really still a thing?

>>132604142
butblasted nigger detected. u mad you didn't score well on the test? u mad that white students who took it along side you scored higher with little effort? u mad you will never amount to anything other than
>muh melanin
and you will never see the better side of life that being whi- sorry, being human offers?

>>132622681
the ones who best relate to cats are cats. the ones who best relate to children are children.

success in society requires you to be smart enough to get a leg up above others, but it also requires you to be dumb enough to relate to the most number of people.

if you are too far above everyone, you find it much harder to relate. this creates a missing "people skill" but that doesn't mean "people skill" is a different intelligence that's part of a magical rainbow intelligence spectrum. that's a leftist fantasy

>>132622772
But now that your aware of the pattern you wont make the same mistake again. You get it next time.

>>132602293
What's the point in having two stupid red herring that aren't coherent in the pattern?

>>132622681
High IQ has absolutely nothing to do with sociability. I notice far often that less intelligent people are more difficult and lonely. They also seem overly concerned with hierarchy and intelligence, i have never once treated anyone differently if they, say had a worse job or none at all, but regularly meeting these people socially they spend their time trying to get trivial "one ups". Once i had my brother in law spend a conversation folding and unfolding his arms, which i matched as you do unconsciously. He then spent the rest of the night triumphantly telling everyone he had made me do that, it was just bizarre. Same as a different anon taking joy from a perceived intelligent person failing in a job that he has learnt to do, not reasoned to do but learnt and memorised.

>>132623233
Agreed, thanks for the condolences.

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>>132623012
>Reveling in the unexamined life
kys. there's really no reason not to.

>>132623058
>memeing this hard

>>132623275
There are multiple ways to solve it. In theory one would imagine there is a way to properly incorporate all four without any excess.

>>132623012
Sadly so, i was a meme of a teenager and then doubled down.

>>132623187
I never said people skill was related to intelligence.
This also explains why politicians are so dumb, it is a popularity contest after all the dumber you are the more popular you are.

>>132602293
test

>>132623302
I would guess your brother probably has a decently high IQ but is insecure about the fact that it isn't that as good as a genius so he tries to make himself look better constantly

essentially an inferiority complex even though he knows he's superior to most

>>132602293
I GET IT . they're shaped like plus signs so like u need to add n shiet?

>>132606008

No, no it doesn't. There is no IQ test that you take, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>132623524
Why is /k/ broke???

>>132623476
good, but I would disagree, the best politicians are again probably the medicore intelligent. not entirely stupid but definitely above average, but not geniuses either. their advisors are generally more intelligent than they are

>>132622782
>strawman
Did they remove the sticky? Get your fallacies straight, son.

Have fun making a control group for prenatal environment.

>>132623602
Good Morning Australia!

>>132623589
Brother in law, he dropped out of school at 15 and has been jobless for decades since. He's coming around now though, he just had a tough time in life.

My brother is a genius though, very social too, works 15 hour days in banks.

>>132602293
>OP asserts his question is not culturally bias
>Uses European symbols for digits
>Puzzle assumes reader's language reads side-to-side
>Puzzle assumes reader has had a mathematical education
>Puzzle assumes reader's language has a question mark symbol
>Puzzle assumes reader's culture is familiar with the concept of "fill in the blank"

>>132604846

>taking aboslutes

lmao

I thought it had something to do with the top and middle numbers. every top number times 3 is the middle number.

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>>132623876
WUT U SUMFUGGA BIXNOOD

>>132602293
if niggers can't do a simple puzzle like this within 3 minutes i don't even want them making my order at wendy's desu senpai

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>>132604162
eh, generally this

I have an utter mental block with numbers, critical thinking with even basic math just doesn't come to me.

However, in logical discussion and use of rational thinking I often get complements, or am told I'm a lot smarter than people originally thought. In an debate I can run circles around some of my friends that are much better in their studies like math.

>>132623524
Welcome back

>>132623714
And their public relations staff dumber?

>>132617527
No. Because it was founded in Oxford. Your country is a jail.>>132617602

>>132623876
Morning cunt

I guess the top 2 crosses are there to show that you get the bottom 2 crosses by either taking the top 2 cross difference (bottom right) or adding them up (bottom left)

then just repeat the process on the bottom 2 crosses into the middle cross

Either way a shitty IQ question

>>132623714
Politicians aren't stupid, they just have different, weaker principles. Wisdom and strength arent inherent with intelligence, but to think that politicians make the steps they make ignorant to the consequences is wrong.

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>>132604867
RACIST

>>132624342
Apologies your correct, Roland Berrill was just an escaped convict.

>>132624342
I should have said by an australian.

>>132611560
heart = clover
clover = diamond

answer = B

>>132625067
Club>heart>diamond>club
A

I always score in the 130-145 range for online IQ tests but no for a fact my IQ isn't that high. I'm guessing subtract 15-20 points and it might be slightly accurate?

>>132625591
no, no use speculating how good they are. you just need to take one in person, no exceptions

it isn't just a question/answer thing, you can score higher or lower depending on discussing your thought process with the proctor