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Why do American Conservatives hate the Third Reich so much?

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Seriously, they are always shit talking on it or calling it 'leftist'
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perhaps because the leader of the third reich was a commie bastard with a nigger tier mustache?
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>>132593810
in what way was he a commie?
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He condemned the entire white race to eternal white guilt, you guys are fucked lmao.
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>>132593971
>REDISTRIBUTION
>OF WEALTH
>GIBS FOR SUBHUMAN BREEDING BEHAVIOR
But it's okay because white people did it huh.
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>>132594357
Nazi Germany had a more limited welfare state (at the time) than France or Britain. But assume for argument's sake that they did have a big welfare state, how does that justify the West allying with the fucking USSR to destroy Germany?
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It's called National SOCIALISM for a reason. You are cryptocommies.

/thread
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>>132594945
because fuck those evil nazis! my grandpa was a hall of cost survivor and he spent nights crying about it! fuck you anti-semites
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>>132593810
American conservatives are literal bolsheviks. Jewish to the core.
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>>132595066
Ameriburger political babby detected.

Read 'Prussianism and Socialism' by Oswald Spengler and you'll get it.
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>>132595066
National Libertarianism
>Absolute Monarchy
>Ethno-Nationalism
>Free Market
>Low taxes
>Smal budget just 4 Defence
>Migration control
>Traditionalism
>Christianism
>Physically remove commies, muslims and sjws
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Disarmament
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>>132596550
actually a myth, they took guns from jews and commies, but not redpilled Germans.
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American (((Conservatives))) are the goodest goys you could ever find.
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>>132594945
Convenience. It used to be the other way around remember. The guys testing tanks certainly do.
> limited welfare
We used to have none, remember?
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>>132593810
Wrong on so many levels.
Pls read a book or kys
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>>132596972
they took guns from everyone...
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>>132593445
American conservatism is a weird combination of libertarianism and theocracy. Philosophically, that is. "Conservatives" in government are just state globalists.
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>>132603104
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Hitler was one of the biggest shills for Islam ever, way more than Merkel. He said he wishes Germany had been conquered by islam
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>>132593445
American Conservatives or Boomers are a generation that are the children of those who fought in WW2, a group that went to war without questioning why, who allied with communists to firebomb german women and children because their country left the jewish banks, who after the war was over considered plans to sterilize the remaining citizens
it's no surprise that they are a bit fucked in the head
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National Socialism is incompatible with American society.
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Because most Americans literally cannot comprehend it because its so outside the normal kike created party lines. To your average american, you're either a libertarian evangelical or an interventionist 'liberal'. Even some of the people here don't understand it, and this is especially true of T_D fags and trump boomers.
Another aspect of it is education, this is true outside america too but most of what is taught in school is either very vague or flat out lies. You barely learn about the economics of national socialism or actual ideology of national socialism. You learn in school that they were "le evil white supremacist half commie half stuff commies hate guys who tried to take over the world!".
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>>132593971
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>>132593445
>Why do American Conservatives hate the Third Reich so much?
Because they represent the same liberal order that is decimating white America from coast to coast.
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>>132603928
Thats because american society has been kike run since the civil war.
>>132603716
If you actually read the quote he was saying that he envy'd the theology of islam and japan because they encouraged a warrior culture and that if the Germans were muslim they could've ruled the world, he never wanted to import mudshits or anything he just respected their culture. You also have to keep in mind that most muslim rulers and countries at the time we're very moderate because the Islamic revolution hadn't happened yet.
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>>132593445
ww2 was the best thing that happened to the usa because they and their commie friends gained a ton from the destruction of the european empires
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>>132593445
national "socialism".
it's pretty left.
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>>132604465
Its not left though, whats wrong with 'socialism' if its purely to benefit your race and people and there isn't any marxist equality bullshit to it.
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>>132593445

Same reason we hate SJWs. They were collectivist scum who think and act in terms of groups rather than individuals and in so doing foster nonmeritocratic societies.
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>>132604351
No, its because from the get-go the United States was designed to be an individualist collection of states which have a federal government to manage certain affairs which the states can't. We're closer to an authoritarian regime now more than ever but National Socialists don't like it because it isn't their flavor of collectivism.
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>>132593445

Conservatives are as bad as the reds.

Conservatives will tell you in 50 years that gay marriage was always legal here and it is actually our tradition.

Capitalism and Communism are just two different sides of the same Shekel.
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>>132604543
fuck you nigger
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Because they have been duped into being good shabbo goys by the rich and the jews. It's the same folks that push that it's Christians responsibility to take care of Israel and it's people oven though they hate goyim and see them as useful idiots.
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>>132593445
American ((conservatives)) are liberals
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>"SOCIALISM WILL WORK IF IT'S ONLY FOR WHITE PEOPLE GUIISSS I SWEAR!"

Literally gibs for white people.
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>>132604465
Not left enough.

The unwillingness of the Nazi leadership to impose hardships on its people starting 1939 meant they didn't have enough weapons and men in the army 1941.

The 3rd Reich lost because it didn't invest all national resources to the war effort from the start.
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>>132594945

We fed the deserving poor, which is a good thing.

Germannys strenght is a big middle class and not the chav/patrician duality of England. If you love your people you look after them and don't exploit them for some more Schekels.

Any "Conservative" in this thread bitching about taxes in the Reich being used to feed widdows of fallen soldiers shall eat a bullet. They fight a state 80 years dead tooth and nail but would never attack their current governments that not only collect more taxes but use them to actually exterminate them. Conservatives are good goyim by definition.
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>>132593445
Because everyone knows Americans are very old fashioned
and basically stupid
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Because American Conservatives are only in it for the laughs
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>>132593445
Because they have been told for the whole of the cold war that leftism is bad. WWII was more about putting down a mad dog.
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>>132604633
This. They serve the other end of the false paradigm
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>>132603104

No they did not. Stop spreading lies you merimutt kike lover.
In 1938 possession of long guns and ammuniton was completely deregualted and the age requirements were lowered from 20 to 18.

>>132603716

he ver said that. Kikebart jews get into the oven first, real ovens this time.
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>>132604633
Any form of collectivism is way more Jewish than capitalism.
Moral decay =/= capitalism. Capitalism had nothing to do with gay marriage being legalized.
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>>132604143
>>132603868

Good analysis
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>>132604143
Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that America has no real national identity or people, we're a big collection of Mutts and have been since the late 1800s and shifted away from northwestern euros only to "white people". We have no real common culture that isn't some kike produced shit, and we have no "people", the american people at one time had their respective regions but most american sub cultures have eroded over the past 150 years.
The reason that this is important is because it means Americans can't handle the idea of collectivism for the sake of one's people. The idea of policies that go against muh free market and introduce collectivist policies for the sake of one's people instead of some marxist shit is incomprehensible because of this lack of a common identity.
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>>132604842
The Nazi state threw away a good chunk of their young men in a pointless war and then taxed the rest to compensate.
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The third reich were leftists. They were in the same camp as the Soviets, and any other communist regime. Socialists, NatSocs, communists - you're all leftists. Your ideology destroyed the West in the past, and it is destroying us now. A free-market, libertarian society based on traditional values is the way to go, my friends.
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>>132604927
and to clarify, hitler was more slightly centre but extreme authoritarian.
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1. It was leftist
2. The holocaust (I personally care less about the jews, it's more about the gays and the slavs)
3. He was the biggest globalist every in the history of the world.
4. He was an artist
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>>132604543
I dont know about you bro but every race is capable of having subhumans and I'm not paying for Cletus and his family's healthcare just people he's "muh peeple."
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>>132604934

exactly. AnCap and Communism both result in the same: Rule of the George Soroses of this world.

>>132605002

>family units are jewish
>having social cohesion is jewish

hmm really makes me think, it is almost like you are a kike using reversed psychology to prevent to goyim from keeping you out of their societies.
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>>132605002
There's a reason that kikes are characterized as greedy and opportunistic; the very heart of capitalism is Judaism.
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>>132604842
>taxes in the Reich being used to feed widdows of fallen soldiers shall eat a bullet
Nazis should've raised taxes and paid the widow nothing, all resources should've been invested into the war effort.

Now I believe in supporting widows as much as next guy but winning wars is more important than being a good person. A good person feeds widows, but to win WW2 you need to invest more in the army, being a leader is about making difficult decisions, if freedom and dignity requires a sacrifice I'd rather sacrifice a widow than an army fighting the enemy.

Feeding a million widows is expensive during war... I'd rather have the manpower to protect the country I lead, than feel good about widows.
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>>132605040

>better don't fight and just submit to jewish rule hehe

Further proof that lolberts are kike puppets just as communists
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>>132605158
Thats literally not even apart of it.
In the third reich if you were a NEET or fucking bum you didn't get shit, if you were a good worker who was just down on his luck then you got unemployment. The same can be said for other policies like health care for children and other shit. Thats the whole point, no one is denying there are shitters out there and shitters should be treated as such. A communist will tell you everyone is worth while and muh equality, this is the fundamental difference between socialists and national socialists.
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>>132593445
Jew propaganda. Hitler and the national Socialists are (figuratively) portrayed as Satan on earth. The U.S. government is almost entirely ZOGed, especially the federal government.
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>>132605034

Unironically a burger intellectual. I like

>>132605245

>Nazis should've raised taxes and paid the widow nothing, all resources should've been invested into the war effort

you know, letting the families of soldiers who fought for you die is a thing you commies share with capitalists but we wont do it.

Also from a strategical standpoint it is not smart to rile up your people against you by not supporting them when you demand from them to fight for you.
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>>132605161
>col·lec·tiv·ism
kəˈlektəˌvizəm/Submit
noun
the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
the theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.

I don't see anywhere that says family or social unity. Also muh "anyone who disagrees with me is a kike."
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>>132605299
>>132605158

Only deserving poor were fed. Self inflicted shit was not paid for.
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>>132593445
Because American right-wingers value freedom.
Fascism isn't freedom.
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>>132593810

Lol muh republican party is the one true party. Go nek yourself kike.

NS is the only way. We are alt right. No cucks
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Nazi Germany declared war on the United States after the United States declared war on Japan, after Japan declared war on the United States. That is the reason why the USA went to war with Nazi Germany.
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>>132605439

>a family is not a collective
>you are not part of the collective of straight european men by birth
>don't form jew repellent societies, goyim

you can fuck right off, I bet you thought posting a definition would totally BTFO us LOL
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>>132593971
Collective above individuals.
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>>132604735
>>132594357
>>132595066
>>132604246
See
>>132605390
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>>132595676
Fuck your feelings, Fuck his feelings too
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>>132605523

>Freedom is becoming 56% white just to have all of your rights and quality of life taken from you by 2050

wew. The whites in Rhodesia must enjoy their freedom right now dude, at least they respected the niggers inidvidual rights xD since niggers are a creation of god, amirite my fellow pede?
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>>132605247
Oh if you truly thought you were submitting to Jewish rule by not fighting no one aside from Russia at the time was your enemy before you invaded Poland. Bunch of fucking idiots you were alongside the Japanese who thought they could take us on.
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>>132594357
Bringing your birth rates up to a sustainable level = subhuman

T. Abdi enoying gibbs in Schweiz
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>>132605804

>have no clue about history
>run your fat sloppy mouth anyways

"people" like you are what gives Americans their bad name
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>>132604543
Socialism always leads to multiculturalism because socialism is a parasitic ideology that requires a perceived victim class to continue. Once your own country is equalized they need to find new perceived victims to continue the scam so they will point at poor oppressed foreigners as the new victims who need to be brought in and given free money
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>>132593810
Le edge!
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>>132605599
Why dont you join the liberals like soros then?. That is their goal, to totally destroy any collective identity (race, gender nationality) except for jews and insiders
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>>132605299
> A communist will tell you everyone is worth while and muh equality
That's what liberals want you to believe.

What Communism was about in the Soviet Union was protecting the Slavs from eradication.

Under Stalin wages were cut by 90%, taking sick days a sign for subversive activity punishable by Gulag. Productivity exploded.

Under Communism workers in Stalingrad went to their factories to produce weapons while the bloodiest battle in human history raged around them.

Some of them wanted to flee, certainly but the orders were clear, the army needs weapons to protect it's ethnic identity. People worked and traitors were shot.

People aren't equal and Communism isn't about equality it's about investing all resources into the war effort it if dire times require it.
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24/7 anti hitler/nazi propaganda on tv
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>>132593445
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>>132604543
The calculation problem. Poverty.
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>>132593445
Because their Nipponese allies sank our battleship.
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>>132605934

>Nationalsocialism would have led to multiculturalism
>says American, dwelling in his 56% white (((libertarian))) country

wtf I love corrupt democracies now
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>>132595066
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>>132593445
The "right" are mostly neocons beholden to jews.

Conservative politicians are pedophiles who gang rape and murder children, and have been conditioned by the cia to be slaves of jewish bankers, and the BIS to this depravity.

After ww2, the jews took much more ruthless measures, because Hitler nearly btfo their entire operation. Now you see politicians on any side capitulate, and none speak the truth, predominantly because most of them are child rapists who are compromised by the cia demons and other kike pets.
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>>132605934
You don't seem to understand that national socialism is not Marxist socialism. There is no "equality". It is an ethnic based system where the idea is that someone who is your nationality should have a high quality of life. There will be no welfare state, and there will be no suicidal altruism. Most European countries had what hitler had but without the racialism and nationalism which is why we ended up where we are today with europe.
>>132606013
idgaf commie faggot
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>>132605901
Let me break it down for you. You had recovered and prospered after WW1 and your butthurt about losing the last war got you into all sorts of trouble. The west knew you'd do this again and we even let you play Napoleon for a little bit since we didn't want to bother going to war again, but you didn't stop.
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>>132606021
FACISM IS A HORRIBLE POLITICAL STANDPOINT almost as bad as communism, you need pure capitalism, not anarcho-capatilsm an oligarchy.
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is it a coincidence that
Paul Joseph Watson
Paul Joseph Goebbles?
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The reality is that the left use it as an attack against every rightist, they're just trying to defend themselves. If the left shut up about calling republicans "literally Hitler" Republicans would shut up, too.
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>>132606240

I hope you are trolling
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>>132603397
It is a fallacy to believe that you must be religious to be a conservative. I believe in conservative values however I don't belong to any political party nor do I believe in a god. There are plenty others like us out there.
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Because it`s a Jewish owned media cabal.
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>>132605597
If the main defining feature about you is something extremely basic or something you didn't choose like your sexuality,gender, or race then you're basically saying you have fuck all to contribute to the world. Collectivism basically destroys the concept of an individual and judges everyone by the collective or the group and that people should prioritize the good of society over the individual. I don't care if I get called a kike or greedy or what not but I care more about my family and myself than the rest of society which is stupid that this is called greedy nowadays.
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>>132605409
>Also from a strategical standpoint it is not smart to rile up your people against you by not supporting them when you demand from them to fight for you.
Can tell you the Russian grandmother who's parents died in Stalingrad and grew up an Orphan is proud of her parents sacrifice.

Most Germans are not proud of their fathers sacrifice in Stalingrad.

Bribing people temporarily is a tactic (((they))) used, it works temporarily but it doesn't work long term, appealing to patriotism on the other hand will create something that lasts longer.

Communism utterly failed later on as it became softer, less nationalistic and was unable to justify it's legitimate army to its people.
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>>132594357
>But it's okay because white people did it huh
Basically.
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>>132606382
With that flag he has to be.
>>132606247
See this is basically what the conservative media says while the left wing call hitler a corporate scumbag.
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>>132594357
When you gas 6billion you need redistribution, right?
Also killing handicapped WW1 vets is hood way to save pensions, right?

:^)
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>>132606230
>idgaf commie faggot
I know you don't you're a liberal degenerate
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But OP Nat-Soc was (is) a leftist ideology. They're more "liberal" than commies (economics speaking) but still center-left.
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>>132606485
I was born and raised in a post-communism oligarch Russia, the country became a world super-power in less than 3 years
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>>132606382
>T-troll!
Oh please, can you only argue with ad homs and claiming everything you don't like is judaism?
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>>132606247
>pure capitalism

This merely creates the conditions for Plutocracy, and the advent of banking institutions who use the compounding factor on debt to suck the life out of the west.

Pure capitalism doesn't have efficient enough competitive measures relative to time to account for oligopolies and monopolies forming due to banking scams.

Any capitalist society without being guided by a strong government will inevitably become a Plutocracy. The modern disgusting jewish system of pedophiles, blackmail, child murder, and satanic practices exists specifically because the jewish bankers do not want to let go of power, even though logically their compounded debt scams cannot continue due to finite resource repayability of debts.
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>>132606057
>when t_d tries to get upboats on an imageboard
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>>132593445
>national socialism
>socialism

Also their Jewish campaign donors don't like them.
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>>132606453
>I don't care if I get called a kike or greedy or what not but I care more about my family and myself than the rest of society which is stupid that this is called greedy nowadays.

Ok, and some people are psychopaths and only care about themselves. They dont have rights to do what ever they want
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>>132606178
I see natsocs saying that socialism is a good thing if it benifits white people then saying it wasn't actual socialism and that it was more fiscally right then we were told it was. Huh.
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>>132606240
>we even let you play Napoleon for a little bit
Shartburger TV brainwashing
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Facism is an extreme for of national-socialism, which is left wing authortrian political standpoint.
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>>132606568
The jewish race shall perish.

Please know this. There is no other way.

Marxist socialism =/= National Socialism.
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>>132594945
That one was on Hitler. He stupidly invaded the USSR while already fighting the US and the U.K. on the western front, meaning he had to fight two giant-ass armies on two different sides. For the life of me I will never know why he thought this was a good idea.

The Allies just went with the "enemy of my enemy" approach.
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>>132606727
Appeasement of Hitler's territorial claims is common knowledge you delusional burger.
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>>132606676
>it wasn't actual socialism
It wasn't.
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>>132606611
I think me and you have a different defination of pure captalism...
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>>132606611
The problem is that libertarians don't see why America (which in the early years was pretty much the ideal libertarian government) failed in the first place. A limited government society works great except for when modern technology and corporations exist.
>>132606676
Because socialism in the traditional sense has nothing to do with national socialism. It had socialized systems but the difference is like many people have said already is that there is no marxism involved.
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>>132606453

>I care about my family

why? Because they are of the same blood. I feel sorry for you Amerimutts that you never experienced what it meant to have a whole nation who you could relate to like this.

You never knew how good a homogenous society can be. YOUR path has brought you to being 56% white and will turn the US into South Africa at the end of the cenutry.
Because I love my family as well you are an enemy that needs to be eradicated, because you want us to stoop to the lowest lows of humanity.

>>132606485

Communism is anti human and can never succeed. It is uncultured and soulless.

>>132606526

I really hope so. Boomers are the greatest retards out there. Our boomers are bad as well, they are the coward generation that never had to fight, grew up in a booming post war Germany and yet they lecture us
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>>132606611
Small businesses wouldnt have such a hard time compeating with large department stores like Wal-Mart if it weren't for the government regulating and taxing the fuck out of the market. The only form of capitalism that can bring true prosperity is laissez-faire capitalism which is different to the capitalism most conservatives believe in.
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>>132606611
How? Banks aren't forcing people to make bad decisions. I don't understand your model. Something something a free exchange of goods suddenly leads to Jewish satanic practices? And how does a government (literally just a group of average people) prevent that, given the flawed premise that a free market causes it to rise?
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>>132606248
He has different political views than you do that must mean he's a nazi? Tell me, are you one of black clad individuals out rioting and punching those evil unarmed supposedly nazi trump supporters?
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>>132606841
I think you're just not intelligent enough to understand what capitalism even is. Or why it leads to monopolies in all iterations.
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>>132593445
because America was born into freedom and liberty

which right or left wing socialism is not.

not that freedom is by default godo
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>>132606485
The USSR could not become nationalistic without tarnishing its communist ideology, which gave it legitimacy in the first place...
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>>132606601

If somebody posts outright lies I have to assume that he is a troll
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>>132606749

Again they were not marxist (i've already said that) but still center-left. Some call NatSoc a "keynesian militarism" type of society.
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>>132606928
Without government the child fucking/murdering kikes will just bypass the government thug middle man and hire private armies and behave like feudal corporate lords.

We must kill all the jewish bankers, and any statesman that dares defend them. The modern US government is the enemy of the state, because they disregard the constitution.
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>>132606870
>It had socialized systems
It had welfare/reform not socialism. Nazis are just edgy soc-dems
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>>132593445
The problem is all political movements are defined not by their underlying philosophies but merely by their economic outlook. Everything is money.
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>>132607009
I love how you're calling me a liar, yet you haven't posted what and why.
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>>132606676

And this is where your lacking education shows.

Read Oswald Spenglers "Prussiandom and Socialism" and you will understand.
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>>132606587
>I was born and raised in a post-communism oligarch Russia
So you know all about the degeneracy of current Russia. Under Stalin things were different.

>the country became a world super-power in less than 3 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fAhs3J1h98

At what price? Obviously since Khrushchev Russia has been on path of steady moral and national decay, but look at where Russia is now.

It has a fraction of the glory of the Soviet Unions glory in may 1945.

It's because Russia stopped being nationalistic and tolerated liberalism again.
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>>132593445
Americans have a constitutional fetish. They jerk off over the notions of liberty, God, and constitution.

As a result, they shit on racism and race realism eventho it has become clear, more than ever, that multiculturalism is a disaster and their civic patriotism bullshit doesnt mean shit.

American right-wingers are either greedy cunts or moral faggots. And that is why they are losing.

>inb4 some retard reminds me of Trump
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>>132607137
>And that is why they are losing.
The democratic party is losing a lot of popularity alongside the liberal leaning media. The Republican party in contrast has been making nothing but gains politically.
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>>132606783
>

Hitler would have never been able to take England without additonal resources. Everyone in the world thought about he USSR the same, that they were weak. They had a realy bad reputation in wartime.

Hitler thought that when he would be in front / take Moscow they would surrender, but instead of that they kept fighting. The USSR had a bad military and what they did have got decimated but they just had to many people to throw at the germans.

It is always easy to say what he should have done when you know what happens but there was no way he would be able to invade England. Also he kind of had to do it because communism was a growing cancer in Europe en he saw the russians as subhuman, which they are btw.
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>>132593810
You sound like a liberal...
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>>132606938
They are actually, because the US central bank specifically is responsible for the 92% inflation of the US dollar, and the stagnation in wages due to cheap debt flowing around.

Jewish satanic practices are basically the cia's idea of keeping retarded good goy politicians in order, controlling society with blackmail on deep depravity, like torturing kids or raping them or something.

The government prevents this by: banning usury, profiteering at your countrymen's expense, and banning war profiteering in all forms. Nationalizing all central banks, and killing all jews.


With the exception of the very last article I mentioned, everything the National Socialist society did. And they were far more successful than the central bank controlled nations.

Daily reminder: YOUR CENTRAL BANK CONTROLS TRILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS BUT IS OWNED BY PRIVATE SHAREHOLDERS AND IS BEHOLDEN TO THE BIS NOT THE US CONSTITUTION.

Your country is being run by what is basically a banker mafia right now. Pedophiles and child torturers.
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>>132604246
Can you prove he said that? Not all quotes found on the internet are real, you know. I do not claim to be an expert on National Socialism, but I know that Hitler was a right-leaning centrist on the Economical Axis but was really Authoritarian. Also, I know he imprisoned Communists and thought Karl Marx's ideas were poisonous for a healthy society.
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>>132593445
Could be the fact that Mosulini was a socialist, and said fascism is a leftist ideology.
Could be that Nazis' name means socialists.
Could be because Hitler hated capitalism.
Could be that the Nazis did leftists moves.
Could be any of those reasons, anon.
>INB4 larping fgts tell me how Hitler was extreme right wing.
Name one major right wing policy he introduced before you tag me.
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>>132606928

And of course every foreign investor has the right then to buy your companies and steal your tech but thats just how it is.

You are as deluded as commies in regards to human nature. No common sense can be found in AnCaps

>>132607093

Your post I replied to with "troll". Non of this was historically correct, a gross misrepresntation at best. You know that watching history channel does not count as proper education on that subject dont you?
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>>132607302
If only the anglos weren't pushed into the war by jews.
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>>132607239

Kek, you are the best goy a kike could wish for
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>>132607342
Ah, so you have no argument aside from calling me a liar without anything to back it up.
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>>132607429
Nigga hes baiting you just leave it alone.
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>>132607125
Communism ravaged the great country of Russia, it made have worked over a very aggressive tolitarian dictator, but by the end and in the beginning they needed captalism, showing that communism can't work in less it turns into a dictatorship
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>>132607302
Actually, the USSR had a pretty good strategy besides the "human wave." They kept luring the Germans further and further east, into Siberia.

In the winter.

And then cut off their supply lines.
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>>132607087
Thats true, I think a non materialistic ideology is needed but one which lets people come to their own conclusions
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>>132606921
>Communism is anti human and can never succeed. It is uncultured and soulless.
You are from Germany, who do you think makes money off of the immigrants?

The fantasy that immigration is solvable by capitalist liberal nations is laughable.

I guess Cologne happens because too many Germans would rather have cars and houses than secure borders.

I understand if people make that personal decision, but I don't respect it and for me keeping foreign rapists from poisoning the genepool is more important than having more luxury goods.
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>>132606921
Every race is capable of producing subhumans. Even though a European's average IQ is 100, I have met many white people who are dumber than the average nig. The only requirement you need to be admitted into a ethno nationalist community is to be white. You dont need to have any type of positive character trait that would benefit society. This is why traditionalism is way better than white or ethno nationalism. Though I wouldn't want ethno nationalism returning to America as I value the individual but I would like America to become whiter.
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>>132607336
kill all da joos
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>>132606831
>"privatization" comes from german word "reprivatisierung"
lol. Really? Are you commies this fucking dumb now ?
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>>132593445
ITT people have no clue what left-wing and right-wing means

nazis were clearly far right.
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>>132607336
National Socialists hate capitalists because communism and capitalism are two sides of the same kike coin. The economy of national socialism is most compatible to state capitalism. All of his policies were race based and are right wing.
>>132607554
Which is what differentiates national socialism from socialism, cletus won't get shit because if you're garbage the government can just not give you money, theres no equality to it its for the sake of benefiting your people. White people as a group don't exist outside the US, this is why the OP post has been made in the first place.
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>>132607554
Yes, but proportionality is key.

The subhumans shall not live in our lands. Libertarians who defend them will lose their children. Their families. We will erase anyone who dares to defy the racial future of our people.
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>>132607327
Well obviously I'm not a fan of centralized, government supported banks.

>Nationalizing all central banks

How is that different than our current situation? The government already bailed out the banks in 2008, they're government institutions.
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>>132607336
International capitalism, which is the inevitable spawns of unchecked national capitalism, is absolutely deserving of ire.
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>>132593445
hitler was a centrist, so from the right-wing perspective you could mistake him for a leftist, just like how leftists are calling him far-right
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>>132607336
>Could be that Nazis' name means socialists.
The DPRK call themselves democratic, so they must be.

>Could be because Hitler hated capitalism.
Pic related

>Name one major right wing policy he introduced
see >>132606831 >>132606178
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>>132607474

will do.. just had some good will

>>132607533

I am not a capitalist though
I do not really get your point. You can have prosperity without being degenerate. NatSoc proved it.

>>132607554

>Even though a European's average IQ is 100

Subhumanity is not defined by IQ

>The only requirement you need to be admitted into a ethno nationalist community is to be white

wrong

>You dont need to have any type of positive character trait that would benefit society.

wrong

>This is why traditionalism is way better than white or ethno nationalism

NatSoc IS revived traditionalism you dolt. It is the only thing that can beat bolshevism because it is vivid. Conservatism is a dead ideology by definition.
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>>132607239
>w-we are winning

Yeah.

You're like a kid who gets beaten to a pulp by his bully on a weekly basis. Then he finally lands a punch and he feels like he's winning.

Pathetic.

20 more years and the Republican party will never get the presidency unless they become DNC-lite.
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>>132607087
The problem is the banks and intel agencies own blackmail controls on all the murderer, pedophile, and rapist politicians.

Without the blackmail factor, governments could uncuck themselves from being the bank's pets to becoming something great once again.
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>>132607645
Not an argument
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>>132607495
>it made have worked over a very aggressive tolitarian dictator
>showing that communism can't work in less it turns into a dictatorship
Communism relies on absolute authority, liberals are afraid of a leader making decisions, but look at where liberal angst has led to.

Truth is to have a functioning national defense you need to give the government the authority to expropriate liberals.

Liberal fears keep western society from being glorious and cause degeneracy.

Aggressive dictators get things done, which is more than you can say about most politicians. Sometimes things get so bad that a dictator is necessary.
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>>132607744
Because the governments almost every country have today are controlled by the banks, not the other way around.
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>>132607791

It is almost like he transcended the jews little kabuki theater
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>>132607342
Umm nigga what?
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>>132607125
USSR would fail even if Malenkov became leader, it could not maintain parity with the west which had a more refined (but doomed as well) ideology
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>>132607978

You might stop trolling now; wont reply to you anymore
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>>132607744
Because National Socialism outlawed all forms of usury.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program


Please read the 25 to educate yourself on our beliefs. So many know absolutely nothing about what we actually believe.
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>>132607336
putting people into hierarchies is pretty right wing
while trying to make everyone equal is left wing

Hitler favored strong hierarchies through race and economics.
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>>132607934
How does adding more strong governments help this situation, then? A "government" is just a group of average, ruling people. There's absolutely nothing that makes them special or less corruptible than the people who are already in place. Their only function is controlling common people.
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>>132605990
*L'edge
Learn foreign, burger
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>>132607336

>Mosulini
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>>132595805
Yo what's up with these flags
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>>132608213
National Socialism BANS usury.

Something the pathetic idiot mercenary allies fail to ever mention.

Why? Because they are owned by jewish controlled banks. And their politicians are pedophiles who are blackmailed by the cia, raised in torturous conditions to make them insane and depraved for these purposes.
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If you want a real answer it's probably because our right wing is historically libertarian until the neocons came along.
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>>132608213

>everyone is as weak as me
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>>132608143
I'm going to read these and I appreciate the link. I do want to ask first, though, how the government outlawing something necessarily means it won't happen. Especially when we've already established that governments are fallible in the first place.

Don't you think large governments is just a trap? It's another system for Jews to control. By removing it, you remove the entire mode through which they control large groups of people. There is nothing forcing you to interact with a bank outside of the fed.
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>>132608175
Hitler favored natural hierarchy, based on race, talent, and morality.

Race was the foundation, talent another hereditary component, and finally morality which had both a hereditary and environmental component.


Race the seed, culture the soil in which it grows.
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>>132608371
Not an argument.
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>>132593445
One of the primary traits of conservatism is respecting and honoring your ancestors and forefathers. Another is pride in your nation and nation's history.

Sympathising with the nazis is a violation of both.

Objectively speaking, as a conservative, I am indifferent towards the Nazis because I acknowledge that the history of WW2 has been written by the victors. That doesn't mean the Nazis were good guys, it just means we dont really know what went down. Most likely, the Axis and Allies committed unforetold attrocities. The most noble thing to do is admire the bravery of our grandparents who stared death in the face and did their duty.

Courage is a virtue that most certainly has not been passed down from their generation.
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>>132607331
>Not all quotes found on the internet are real, you know.
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>>132604543
No socialism is holding back individuals to insure that every one reaches the same goal at the same time. It hinders a nation, not help it. Imagine in a race, all the fast athletes carried the slower ones so they can reach the end line. The slower would have reached the goal faster than expected, but the faster would take much longer. Also socialism always brings more people in, as your population cannot support the welfare programs which effects birth rate; thus, politicians are forced to bring working age workers to fill in the empty slots. Take, for example, the US. In the 1930-1945 The US had very little socialist programs, yet was 90% white. FDR began socialist program, and by the 60s, the US' white population began to drop massively. It's now just barely above 50%. This is not an isolated example, all socialist countries traveled the same path. European countries will be majority non whites in the next 100 years. If you believe this is a Jewish play, then look at China. They are heavily reeling from their socialist programs. China is now taking a more capitalist system and ending socialist programs; however, the damage is done, as elder Chinese far outnumber the working age Chinese, and there are not enough children to support the system.
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>>132607820
>You can have prosperity without being degenerate. NatSoc proved it.
NatSoc were pretty redpilled on race. But blue pilled on war economies.

I'm saying the unwillingness of the Nazis to engage in total war from 1939 onwards meant that they only had 5million men during the initial phase operation Barbarossa, and with 12-16million men from the beginning they would've won, and Cologne wouldn't have happened.

I thinks Hitlers defeat directly caused Cologne and contemporary German society with homosexuals dancing under the Brandenburg gate.

It's not degenerate to win. Nazis needed more men, more men fighting means lower living standards for everyone.

Nazis refused to impose a wider draft and make the investments necessary to maintain a massive logistical network. That's why they lost, and by losing they are directly responsible for Merkel.
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>>132608375

>murder should be legal since banning it did not cause it to not happen again

really made me think...
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>>132608213
The idea is if you have a government thats made up of people who aren't a bunch of jew funded politicians with actual ideologies that won't happen.
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Nazi's murdered millions of white Europeans directly and indirectly caused the death of millions more.

Adolf Hitler was a meth addicted pyschopath.
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>>132594211
This

Hitler had good intentions, but he fucked the whole production.
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>>132607915
>Sometimes things get so bad that a dictator is necessary.
It's odd that our Democracies so influenced by the Classical world don't accept this.
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>>132593445
Socialism. Other that, they didn't do anything wrong. I would personally love to kill shitskins.
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>>132608143
>National Socialism outlawed all forms of usury.
Lol

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

>Where does Hitler’s reputation for anti-Usury activism come from? It was more Nazi propaganda to get him to power than his actual policies after he did. It was not Hitler, but Gottfried Feder who was the anti-Usury man of the Nazi

>Feder was made Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, but was from day one sabotaged by Reichsbank President Hjalmar Schacht and replaced by him in August 1934. It was Schacht who was to manage the Nazi economy, not Feder.

Schacht’s and Hitler’s policies allowed full control of the economy, which was used to maximize production for the sake of war. But it did absolutely nothing to limit in any way massive war profiteering by the financial and industrial classes that brought him to power.
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>>132608456

Yes it is. You just proved that your ideology is the root of communism. You expect anybody to be equal, anybdoy to be as weak as you. That is what your ideology is build on.
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>>132608606

Yeah really (((odd)))
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>>132608375
If you remove government you will merely create banker feudalism, in which the jewish banks will use their trillions they stole from the people to pay degenerate cia and other paramilitary types to intimidate the people once again, and effectively just replace government with a new type of mafia enforcer.

The reason it wont happen is that National Socialism was focused on a non adversarial relationship between race and state. State and people. The reason for this is the simple realization that we can prosper more together in the long run, and this is why Hitler often spoke of the citizens as the body, the high command the brain etc. One unified nation, working together to ascend the race.

Democracy fails because of the ignorance of the masses being imposed upon all, easily manipulated by media scams. Allowing usury fails because compounded debt interest sucks the blood of all working people.


National Socialism was a new system, where government viewed citizens as part of itself. They were one. With providence as their guiding light, they worked to ascend their race. Unfortunately the jewish depraved maniacs and their serial killer pedophile pets won the war.
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NatSocs are total cucks that bow down to the government.

In the US
Bigger government more control = left liberal ( commies, Nazis, greens,democrats)

Less government adherence to the constitution more individual freedom = right ( libertarians ancaps necons conesrveatives republicans)
Nazis are just Democrats who are honest about how they feel towards minorities
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>>132608529
See once again you're comparing national socialism to normal socialism which is wrong. Anything regarding the US or communist countries isn't applicable because literally every policy the Nazi's had was based off of merit and nothing else. There are no ideas of universal equality or achieving the same goal, all that matters is that worthwhile people who are your fellow Germans can live healthy and succeed. You are the best example of what I said here: >>132604143 >>132605034
and why the OP had to make his post. Americans do not understand it.
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Hitler's incompetence turned Germany into the most cucked nation on earth.
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>>132608645
Why don't you then?

>because you're an autistic LARPer that wouldn't hurt a fly
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>>132607554
>Even though a European's average IQ is 100, I have met many white people who are dumber than the average nig

No, you've met many Americans who are dumber than the average nig.
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>>132608657
Right, a jewish funded company source. Very credible.

Why do you think the world united against Hitler?

Why do you think the UK made ridiculous excuses to go to war?

The banks were afraid.

Fucking lying bastard kike, war profiteering was punishable by DEATH in the 25 tenets of ndsap, of which Hitler NEVER changed. Feder even wanted to expand them to make it more corporate friendly, but Hitler refused.


Fucking shill kikes like you should have their mothers skinned alive. You disgusting bank loving fucking kike.
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>>132607239
This is true, to an extent. Neoliberalism is a dying ideology on both sides of the Atlantic. The post-war consensus is crumbling after it showed its true colors after the Great Recession.

You don't want to break up the big banks because you're worried it would be too big of a shock to the economy? Or is it because Goldman Sachs donated six figures to your campaign? You want to invade [x]? Is it because you believe there are genuine human rights abuses going on, or is it because you just invested in Boeing or Lockheed Martin? You want to give [y] a tax cut? Do you genuinely believe the tax rate is too high, or are you just fishing for a position on their board, or their lobbying offices?

Their mealy-mouthed defense of this form of governing isn't holding. They're instead trying to make "populism" a dirty word. Establishment Democrats saw what the Tea Party accomplished, and worry that the same could happen with their left wing base. The usual strategy of "pay lip service to identity politics and then go do Wall Street's bidding" has failed. Meanwhile, the populists on the right have all but declared victory over the Republican Party. It's really only Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell who are standing in Trump's way, and make no mistake, they're counting the days until it's safe to show their true colors publicly as well, and that will happen the moment they get Trump's signature on their tax reform bill.

The current political fault line is no longer "left vs right." It's now "establishment vs populism."

The left and the right are more less just fighting over who gets to replace the establishment when it inevitably crumbles.
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>>132608571
I wish for that more than anything but I don't think it's realistically sustainable.

>>132608565
To criminals, legality means nothing, and to your moral citizens, the law is irrelevant since they wouldn't murder in the first place. Your law means actual nothing. It's a given that a moral citizen should punish an immoral citizen. The American west was a great model for this. If someone broke did something morally reprehensible, they were lynched. Easy.
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>>132608459
Conservatism should be intuitive, in some cases your ancestors could have been wrong or your nation. That said I am neutral about the nazis as well, I dont agree with them on everything
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>>132608793
You're such a delusional idiotic 90 IQ cuckservative.

Every fucking jew will burn. Every pedophile boomer politician.

This system must die.
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>>132608663
I'm not a communist. Your blind faith in your leaders is ridiculous, and labeling someone NatSoc doesn't render them infallible. You're undermining your own cause.
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>>132608961

Is this supposed to refute anything I stated?
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>>132608961
It is sustainable if you don't have a democracy or republic.
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>>132608954
>pay lip service to identity politics and then go do Wall Street's bidding" has failed

Half the presidents cabinet is wall street. His Secretary of State was the CEO of Exxon.
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>>132593445
>American Conservatives
Because this is codeword for "Jewish slave (voluntary)".
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>>132609031
You LARPers are so cute when you try so hard
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>>132609138
We're not supposed to talk about that, though. It's okay when he does it.

Seriously, though, if you want a better example of a populist, on the left it's Jeremy Corbyn, and on the right its Marine Le Pen.
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>>132608954
You're deluded if you think that rising populism isn't very close, if it hasn't already, of falling under the thumb of that same establishment. The new "pay lip service to left wing identity politics" can very easily become "pay lip service to right wing populists".
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>>132607611
>>132607725
>>132607774
>>132607809
>>132608175
>>132608286
And not a single example was given. Good to see you have nothing to debunk that Hitler and his fellows were left leaning.
And here is for the anon that posted a pic of Hitler saying Hitler supports Capitalism
https://youtu.be/0zkVvIbifQI
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>>132608793
>that bow down to the government.
NazBol governments don't expect you to bow down, they expect you to do your part.

If you want packs of immigrants raping everyone roaming around cities waiting to take over the countryside that means you are a cuck, if you accept the reality that only organized violence can stop these thuggish groups, cheers that's why we have a government.

Now I'd argue after purging the liberals this government needs more authority and liberals need to be stripped of assets they want to use against the nations in Soros like plots.
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>>132609019
Conservatism as it is today is basically beholden to banker interests like every other ideology.

In our conception, Von Papen, a degenerate probably pedophilic aristocrat tried to indirectly control Hitler with his money contacts and royal networks. During the night of the long knives Hitler killed his pets who defended him and exiled him from politics forever.

National Socialism threatens all the systems of old, because they were systems enslaving the many to serve the few. National Socialism was about freeing humanity from the clutches of jewish usury, and ascending whites into becoming "Aryan" a racial ideal to which they become: more intelligent, more moral, more spiritual, more hard working etc.

National Socialism was more than just a political ideology, it was a way of life. Ascendance of humanity. Each race could separately tend to their own ideal, and we could ascend out of the barbaric ideologies of old, where a few evil depraved men subjugate society with their resources and manpower to enrich themselves further at the expense of all.
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Because vindicating the Axis would make the sacrifices of their parents, who served and died in WW2, meaningless.
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>>132608783
I want to believe this is possible. In many ways, your Paleolibertarians like Hoppe want the same end result, a strong people and a moral society. The Austrian and Chicago schools just believed that the onus is on the individual, with their responsibility not displaced to a higher power in a government, to be held to that higher standard. I just don't trust any ruling body to stay pure in a world constantly corrupted by (((them))), so I want a system that disempowers their ability to control people.

I do agree completely that democracy has failed.
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>>132605390
>>132605600
Also this
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>>132609181
Commies like to talk like this.

I am not larping. I am dead serious. Everything of the old world must burn.
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>>132609352
Don't include me, I wasn't a part of your little argument I was just making a subsidiary one stemming from that specific post.

Capitalism is far from the infallible route to utopia you seem to believe it is.
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>>132608793
even more, they are sadomasochistic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip

The ideology of the Führerprinzip sees each organization as a hierarchy of leaders, where every leader (Führer, in German) has absolute responsibility in his own area, demands absolute obedience from those below him and answers only to his superiors

The authorities allowed private corporations to keep their internal organization, but with a simple renaming from hierarchy to Führerprinzip. Conflicting associations, e.g. sports associations responsible for the same sport, were coordinated into a single one under the leadership of a single Führer, who appointed the Führer of a regional association, who appointed the sports club Führer, often appointing the person whom the club had previously elected.[6] Shop stewards had their authority carefully circumscribed to prevent their infringing on that of the plant leader.[7] Eventually, virtually no activity or organization in Germany could exist that was completely independent of party and/or state leadership.

germans must be decimated again, they returned to their BDSM ways
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>>132608935
Quick! Attack the source! Schacht don't real!

>Why do you think the world united against Hitler?
Well for the countries he was invading/invaded, it seems pretty clear why they were against him. As for America and the like, well that's capitalism for you.

>Why do you think the UK made ridiculous excuses to go to war?
Is that why they and France refused Russia's offer to fight the nazis years before shit hit the fan?

>The banks were afraid.
What banks? The ones Hitler privatized?

>Fucking shill kikes like you should have their mothers skinned alive. You disgusting bank loving fucking kike.
REEE more, aspie.
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>>132608663
>You expect anybody to be equal, anybdoy to be as weak as you.
That is not Communism, sacrificing to the greater good of the nation is Communism, everyone should equally sacrifice as much as possible to advance race and nation.

And liberals should have their shit taken away from them as they are probably going to use their assets against the nation.
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>>132609460
By tending to naturalistic principles, we can select for the maximum likelihood of moral, intelligent, and talented people.

The high command selected by IQ, service to state, perceived talents in chosen fields.

Pic related. Meritocratic selection of leaders will allow for us to push the demonic kike types into the black market, and eventually exterminate them all, or exile.
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>>132609301
Oh, absolutely, at least in the US. Like I said, make no mistake, the minute he outlives his usefulness (i.e. they pass tax reform), McConnell and Ryan will turn on Trump.

The only question is if they'll have the balls to do it before 2020.
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>>132593445
Maybe because it was a tyrannical cancer that had to be wiped from the face of the earth. it was another evil empire like the Soviet Union or like ISIS. That discriminates and kills people on the basis of things they didn't choose like class and race.
The third reich was not democratic and had no accountability, all power was in Hitler's hands, there was no separation of powers like in the US to act as a check on government power. If you didn't agree with the party or its views you were removed from society and thrown in camps and their property seized by the state because they didn't believe in the NSAP.

Maybe because the Nazis were mass murdering scum who burned French men women and children in churches and destroyed there village. That was real WHITE GENOCIDE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre

The Nazis were very much like ISIS
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>>132609352
>here is for the anon that posted a pic of Hitler saying Hitler supports Capitalism
A video without reference and seemingly has no mention of what was being discussed? Thanks, i guess

Here's another quote in return
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>>132609761
>no activity or organization in Germany could exist that was completely independent of party and/or state leadership. >>132609545


it is beyond ISIS
it is beyond cuckery, lol
it is ultracuckery
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>>132609556
>countries he was invading

Then why did you kike loving bastards give Poland to the commies then? If you cared about Poland's sovereignty why do that?

>which banks

Central banks which are owned by private (((investors))) and are not beholden to their nation's constitutions all over the world.

Ok jew. I wont talk, I will simply do. None of this Timothy McVeigh shit, your race will die. One way or another. Patient hard work will destroy you and your families.
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>>132594211
I'm pretty sure we did a good job on self condemnation before hitler
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>>132608815
>See once again you're comparing national socialism to normal socialism which is wrong.
Once again, name a right wing policy that took a major part under him. I know the two is different, but the point here is Hitler was NOT on the right side of the spectrum. Simply because NS is different than normal Socialism, does not mean its two different ideologies. Bernie Sanders', for example, political ideology is democratic socialism which differs from normal S and NS, but all three fall into the S ideology.
>Americans do not understand it.
I read Mein Kampf, multiple books on Nazi Germany and its political system, and documentaries on the subject. I also watched some of his speeches online, and the GSNT and other propaganda videos. In the end there was nothing shown that puts him on the right side of the spectrum. However, you can debunk all of this by naming a major policy he introduced that is right wing.
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>>132609761
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Was reading here yesterday and some people were saying that Hitler was just a fake. Some said he was intentionally a puppet (rothschild), some said he got played. Did he really piss on his niece, was the brownshirt a gay rifle group?

Conservative Americans dislike the Third Reich yet didn't a Bush give them money?
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>>132609840
I never said organisation you fucked up scum.
I said PARTY.
All political parties were banned under National Socialism, the state should never be able to stop people from expressing their own views
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>>132609567
I like the quote, only problem is Julius Evola was a liberal.
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>>132606921
Stay true to your heritage, my brother!
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>>132595805
.THIS

The American conservatives pray to jews and hope that this will somehow make them end up in heaven.

American conservatives are generally non-ironically retarded.
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>>132610036
National Socialism was socially right wing, and racially conscious. It was economically half right half left wing.

They largely allowed for unimpeded markets, unless corporations interfered with race/state with unhealthy or shitty products.
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>>132610087
>puppet

Orly?

>niece
Absurd kike propaganda.

>SA

Ernst Rohm was a faggot who was killed by the SS for his degeneracy. The SA were however mostly pure, they just had bad leadership which was replaced on Hitler's order.
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>>132609404
I do not see this "aryan ideal" as the truth (in some ways at least) and the benevolence of the state in that system is based on this false ideal.
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>>132610046
I am not Jewish.
And you have just shown how intellectually defunct you guys are. Instead of replying to my post with reason and logic, you reply with a meme.
PATHETIC

You guys talk about saving western civilisation, in fact you are a direct threat to it.
I admire men like Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, you admire scum who murdered millions of Europeans
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>>132610153
>>132610036
This not to mention the racialism.
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>>132603104
I have a relative who while in a pow camp got to hunt deer when the whole place was starving. Kiwi soldier. He was marched on foot from italy to poland.

Nazis were authoritarian leftists but left only for their own in group. When it came down to it and they all were going to starve, they went and hunted, but the outsiders died. Their own community did as best as they could in that situation. It was full of british and colonial troops in that camp

Nazi rule was a volkisch movement but forced through authoritarian government who had decided this was the best option for the future, to focus on their people, and who became more and more militarist as they looked at their powerful enemies and their history as a people of surviving against them, and eventually ended with the whole world allying against the strength this brought them
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>>132609871
>Central banks which are owned by private (((investors))) and are not beholden to their nation's constitutions all over the world.
And yet your boy was all about privatizing banks, along with a load of other shit, oh but wait, it's cool as long as they're not jews right, kek, stay cucked.

> I wont talk, I will simply do
lol
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>>132610088
i told that nazis started to micromanage how people shit n toilet, what they sell or buy, they started to appoint directors etc

economic oppression is much less tolerable than inability to express their own views

economic opression and such hierarchy is ultracuckery
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>>132609779
Did or did not Hitler shut down any factory that did not produce what he desired?
Hitler shut down multiple factories or converted them to military equipment producing factories. That is not capitalism, that is the state taking control of the means of production while leaving a puppet in charge to fool the masses till a later date when they have more control.
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>>132610402
>economic oppression.
LOL

In Nazi Germany there was economic oppression, if you were not a card carrying member of the NSDAP you would not be able to get a respectable job in the third reich.
Thats economic oppression
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>>132606003
Individualists don't want to do away with race and gender, and commies only want to do away with those things so that the human race becomes one giant collective.
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>>132610409
It's state capitalism. The corporations go pretty much unimpeded unless they do something harmful for society, lie to people, or do something amoral. They only take control of the means of production in desperate situations like when the entire world wars you and your 6 allies.
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>>132610325
How is it a false ideal?

Eugenics objectively increases intelligence, and the ideals of Nat Soc society allowed for moral and spiritual practices which would have ascended the people to be better men.
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>>132610332
The founders were white nationalists. You idiot plebeian.
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>>132593445
Burger don't know anything about political systems outside of their own because they only have 2 parties whose concepts and ideas of liberalism and conservatism differ from ours.
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>>132610832
They weren't white nationalists.
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>>132610106
It wouldn't really matter if he were a transgendered Tumblrite, he has plenty of ideas and quotes that stand independently. Metaphysics of War is an exceptional read.
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>>132610409
>That is not capitalism
It's not what self-proclaimed socialists would call "real socialism" either though. They only consider it real socialism when the state controls ALL the means of production. The Third Reich took control of a bunch of factories for the war effort. A "true socialist" wouldn't be satisfied with that at all.
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>>132610680
Cont.

Lets say its 1938 and I am a German citizen and I want to start a campaign to promote free market capitalism and democracy in the Third Reich.
In the United States it would be easy I could contact a publisher, the press who are free and pay them a fee to publish my ads supporting my political cause.

Whereas in Germany, where the press is owned by the state, where the publishers and pamphlet printing companies are all controlled by the state I would be unable to promote my cause as It would go against the governments view.
THAT IS POLITICAL OPPRESSION
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>>132610684
Individualists are jewish pawns. While they behave like "individuals" the jews behave like a collective, and they outcompete you in EVERYTHING.

Sometimes I think maybe jews are right, our people really do behave like idiot cattle at times.
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>>132610929
YES THEY WERE YOU FUCKING KIKE

THEY OWNED FUCKING SLAVES
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>>132610409
>Hitler shut down multiple factories
First of all no, not saying he never nationalized but you're making it out to be like nationalization was rampant, it wasn't.

>That is not capitalism
I guess by that logic, the US and most western capitalist countries are socialist since co-ops are a thing. Wow, that was easy. You hear that fellow commies, we already won.
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>>132610680
i told same

nazis had bdsm economy based on fuhrerprincip.

"The justification for the civil use of the Führerprinzip was that unquestioning obedience to superiors supposedly produced order and prosperity in which those deemed 'worthy' would share."

it is even economic abuse.
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>>132610153
>National Socialism was socially right wing,
How? Again, give an example.
>and racially conscious.
What does that have to do with anything?
>It was economically half right half left wing.
Again, give an example. From the beginning I said to give examples, all what was done is taking me in a long circle without addressing my points.
>They largely allowed for unimpeded markets, unless corporations interfered with race/state with unhealthy or shitty products.
Your example outright debunks itself. They allowed the free market as long as it abided by them. That is not a true free market. Even Bernie Sanders and Obama are pro that. Does that mean their brand of ideology is right wing?
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>>132610929
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

You retarded lolbertarian fucking plebeian.
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>>132610832
The Founding Fathers believed in the ideas of the enlightenment, not vile despicable white nationalism. Tell me in the constitution where or declaration of independence where WHITE RACE is mentioned.
The more I debate you guys the more I am convinced you are thick
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>>132611094
I thought you were talking about the nazis wew.
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>>132611224
>>132611204
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>>132593445
Because American conservatives are anti-authoritarian duh
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>>132610700
OK, so going off that logic. Obama is right wing. He shut down coal factories and other harmful based markets. What a true Right Wing American. Should have supported Sanders who would have continued those policies instead of Trump and Rand.
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>>132593445
because it failed. how could I look at anything with fondness or respect if it failed? besides, I like jews and well people in general. I saw no reason for an extinciton of a race of people who like power. how do you not like power? you might as well let your wife fuck other men, most powerless thing I can imagine. if the jews are all about power, than something like cuckoldry is not something they promote right? how can the jews be wrong than? fuck the third reich, it failed. no respect!
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>>132611105
>I guess by that logic, the US and most western capitalist countries are socialist since co-ops are a thing. Wow, that was easy. You hear that fellow commies, we already won.
You do know most of the west has socialist policies and have been heading left since the 40s, right? You can't not know of this.
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>>132611147
>give an example

Traditional roles for males and females were embraced. Men working, females working at home with the family.

Racially conscious.

Ethnonationalists (traditionalist nationalism)

Banned homosexuality, jewish film, art, post modernism propaganda, communism etc.

>what does that have to do with anything

That is a traditional attitude to have, which by definition is conservative (to conserve heritage and culture of the past)

>give an example of left/right economic policy

Read the 25: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

Markets were free to do as they wished, in so far as what they did does not harm the people's health, wealth, and moral well being. The 25 go into a bit more detail, and you can examine German common law they adopted to look at the heavy nuances.

Well it's not totally free, but it was more free than modern US plutocracy. The National Socialists objectively interfered LESS than modern jewish controlled US statesmen in the affairs of markets. There were also far less regulations by far. And LOWER taxes.
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>>132611224
Think what you want. Your filthy neocon ilk were BTFO last year, and it's only gonna get worse in 2018 and especially in 2020.

The Republican Party is ours, now. And on the Day of the Rope, race traitors will be the first to hang. Starting with the Jew collaborators in the GOP.
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You're obviously a troll.
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>>132604842
Germany NO!!
We must join our Israeli friends and fight the Muslims so that we can maintain our lovely democracy, feminist values, gay and tranny rights, and civic values!!!
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>>132611504
>because it failed
I love how everyone uses this argument when they talk about National Socialism.
I mean, it's not like the whole world was against it or something.
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>>132611356
Do you think they would become authoritarian when the world powers are allied in destroying them and everything they stand for? An authoritarian liberalism, where communist (for example) powers are demonized and attacked, and fifth column communists are put into jail and perhaps might die if they were still there when a total war broke out.
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>>132611204
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
It must irk you that jews were considered white huh
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>>132611504
>because it failed
The system did not fail, they failed to defeat the whole world at once militarily, what a fucking surprise. Don't act like the nation just collapsed under its own failure to keep itself together like the USSR.
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>>132611587
Statist bitch LARPing as a STATIST bitch
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>>132611224
https://www.amren.com/videos/2017/05/founders-really-thought-race/

Watch the video you turbocuck imbecile.
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>>132611753
>lose argument
>shit fling namecalling

wew lad
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>>132611559
>You do know most of the west has socialist policies
Oh, you're one of those.
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>>132611412
Thats entirely different from what I said. You're literally just dumbing it down to the msot simple example of government interventionism.
The entire purpose of state capitalism under the context of national socialism is that the market is able to run the way it wants but the government can step in to prevent an emergency, in the need of extra war-time industry, or if some jewish shit is going on that can harm the people ie no dildo factories can be opened.
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>>132611640
False quote.
George Washington believed in religious liberty many Jews came and settled in America
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>>132611713
No, Washington despised jews, and the other founders considered them to be dangerous parasites based on their writings.


Every fucking jew must burn. Every jewish child is a threat to the security of white nations.

You wont survive parasite.
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>>132611892
It's not a false quote, you're just a lying kike.
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>>132610810
They could never reach this ideal because it is the idea "pure aryans" are naturally enlightened, ascended etc. The fact of the matter is some people cannot see past the mundane world, I like aryans but they are not some superior race.
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>>132611753
Did you just find Adam Kokesh on youtube little babby? Are you feeling #woke? Awwww how cute.
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>>132593810
Wtf i love hiter now
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>>132611630
No it isn't Trump has family who are Jewish, he had denounced you scumbags.
You are a violent thug who is a loser
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>>132611892
>religious liberty
>the kike is trying to subvert that "jew" in this context is talking about religion

Doggo can sniff jewish subversion from a mile away. Everyone knows damned well on here that "Jew" is referring to the ethnic identity here NOT the religion, of which the word is used interchangeably by shifty kikes to suit their purposes.
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>>132611928
It is look it up, its fabricated.
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>>132611939
It is an ideal to strive towards, not an already existent race. This is the most common misconception newfags have to the ideology.
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>>132611910
Hey, since you mention the founding fathers and their writings, it reminded me of a favorite.
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Natsoc is gay and doesnt work. I have as much regard for them as marxists and socialist, little.
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>>132611640
I kinda doubt that quote but I am sure some of the founders would support the liberal agenda today. Freemasons always support liberalizing society.
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>>132605040
Yeah cause all those natural resources in Germanys were enough to keep it all afloat for very long
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>>132612091
Orly kike?

Hahaha you're digging your own grave with your incessant neuroticism you fucking parasite.
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>>132612135
This, you want smarter, faster, stronger people with more progressive features.
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>>132612060
Well thats where anti-antisemitism originates its primitive nonsense.
Ever since the Jews rejected Jesus and Mohammed they have been discriminated against for centuries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lDmqZkev0
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>>132595805
I see more parallels with the left and Bolsheviks.
>using mob rule, violence, and jewy tactics to smear, intimidate, ostracize, and shut down any opposition to bring about communism
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>>132612192
This is such obvious jewish subversion.

Every single fucking jew will burn. Your families are at risk kike.
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>>132612286
The USA was not founded on the basis of white nationalism
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>>132609902
But Nazism put the tombstone over white pride, i don't know how you guys will ever recover from this t b h.
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>>132612337
>primitive
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>>132612463
https://www.amren.com/videos/2017/05/founders-really-thought-race/


https://www.amren.com/videos/2017/05/founders-really-thought-race/
https://www.amren.com/videos/2017/05/founders-really-thought-race/


Burn in hell kike. You lying fucking rat.
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>>132612403
>Every single fucking jew.
Wow this is sick, so all Jews according to you think the same and have a hive mind???

So they are not like us who have different opinions and views???
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>>132612337
>Ever since the Jews rejected Jesus
No people hated them hundreds of years before then too.
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>>132612337
Pure cohencidence goyim!!!!!

Nothing going on here.

Jews are great people of course!!!! hehehehehe
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>>132612463
No one is saying that it was some nazi movement but the founding fathers favored northwest europeans by far and saw america as an anglo state with germans being ok too i guess.
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>>132612560
LOL
All sources from a neo nazi website, try again stormfag
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>>132612403
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks, what would Hitler's jewish doctor think?

>>132612560
>amren
How does this make you feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rNXJdCM54U

Or how about the time he said "jews are men of the west"
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>>132612673
The vast majority of them are not in government and have no influence whats so ever
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>>132611587
>Traditional roles for males and females were embraced. Men working, females working at home with the family.
That is a religious belief not a right wing belief. Islam is pro that, does that mean its right wing? In addition, the Nazis passed policies that let women be legalized prostitutes (Check buildings were german women lived where soldiers can go fuck them and women can receive welfare for it). Is that part of the women at home?
>Racially conscious.
I assume you mean they liked Whites, or to be exact white germanic tribes. So, that means any group that passes similar laws except they liked a different race, is not right wing.
>Ethnonationalists (traditionalist nationalism)
That is a policy that would only work in 100% similar society, doesn't really seem a wide based right wing policy.
>Banned homosexuality, jewish film, art, post modernism propaganda, communism etc.
Banning free speech is right wing. What?
>That is a traditional attitude to have, which by definition is conservative (to conserve heritage and culture of the past)
Look at what conservative means and major policies affiliated with it, anon.
Based on all you gave, I say you should convert to Islam and move to Saudi Arabia. It fits everything you listed.
Hates Jews and fags and banned their shit.
Have puppets in charge of the means of production, and the state controls it behind the door.
Racially aware.
Enslaves darker races.
Women are required by law to be housewifes and nothing else.
Etc.
By your logic it's right wing.
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>>132612685
>No one is saying that it.
>>132610832
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>>132612623
Burn. In. Hell.

You can't influence opinion on 4chan you fucking retarded kike. People are aware of jewish depravity here.


This is what a true genuine good American thinks about jews.
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>>132611753
Get a load of this goy!
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>>132612714
>neo nazi

Amren is an American nationalist organization you lying fucking KIKE.
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>>132613013
You can be a white nationalist and not have a white nationalist state, all of their policies were in the context that america outside of slaves and natives was 100% anglo, irish, scottish or german.
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>>132612623
They don't have a hivemind but they are all equally predisposed to being the most evil fucking people on this planet.

Put it like this; niggers can't help but be dumb, violent thugs, it's in their genes. Kikes can't help but be extremely subversive, manipulative, spiteful yet intelligent parasites. Kikes have a knack for being evil greedy cunts.
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>>132612227
The founding fathers were weird. Thomas Jefferson went on a massive rant about how non whites are a plague on humanity and that the US should only allow Germanic whites.
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>>132612943
>that is a religious belief

How fucking stupid are cuckservatives?

>racially conscious

All nationalism pre 1950 was ethnonational or pan European.

>banning free speech

Women fucking donkeys on stage is "free speech"? Faggots gang raping children in jewish strip clubs is "free speech"?

You're a fucking kike aren't you.


Cancer. Pure Cancer.
>>
Been lurking for the last past hour. Holy shit there are a lot of subverting kikes in this thread.
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>>132612192
LOL LOL Germans were niggers to Ben Franklin! XD
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>>132613181
To expand more, they didnt need to be explicitly white nationalist because of the historical context.
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>>132595066
"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all."
- Adolf Hitler

The name for the Nazi party was chosen because they wanted to have their own banking system and reject the international one, it had nothing to do with Marxism.
Get your facts straight, burger fuck.
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>>132613041
>Robert Lacey wrote in Ford: The Men and the Machines that a close Willow Run associate of Ford reported that when he was shown newsreel footage of the Nazi concentration camps, he "was confronted with the atrocities which finally and unanswerably laid bare the bestiality of the prejudice to which he contributed, he collapsed with a stroke – his last and most serious."
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>>132612943
>if Islam does it then it can't be right wing
Fundamentalist Islam is quite considerably right wing you utter mong.
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>>132613265
His words, not mine. Take it up with him.
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>>132612623
Yes
If you understand that race and culture are intertwined you will understand that these satanic hooknose fucks need to be put down
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>>132613194
Not to mention pedophilic.

The circumcision ritual involves the Mohel ripping the baby's foreskin off with his teeth, placing his mouth on the baby's penis, unto which the foreskin is then eaten by the female jews attending. They have since stopped eating the foreskins (at least in public) because they don't want to appear the cannibals they secretly are among whites.


Jews are utterly depraved. The most soulless evil disgusting group of people imaginable.
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>>132613299
Not marxism at all but a national socialism. An authority driven investment in their own people that went far beyond welfare nets and health care, but of course included them
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>>132613311
>nazi concentration camps

Jewish propaganda lies. Hitler was far too merciful, should have tortured jews then killed them.

This time, we will sterilize then torture jews for the rest of their natural existence. You will suffer jew. Your children will suffer. As long as whites exist, you will be due for suffering.
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>>132613194
>most evil fucking people on this planet.

You just advocated burning all Jews and they are the ones who are evil.
>>132612403

This sort of evil views you hold are just so fucked up. You should seek help.
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>>132613498
Those jews truly are sick huh, not like us noble Aryan supermen
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>>132611630
>doesn't want to be called a "neo-nazi"
>literally uses "neo-nazi" phrases and slogans like "1488" and "day of the rope"
You faggots are absolutely adorable sometimes.
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>>132613656
>a jew calling me evil

Tell me, why do jews eat the foreskin of a baby? Why does the jewish rabbi or mohel put his mouth on the baby's penis?

Why does it say in the talmud that non jews are cattle, and that it's ok to rape white children?

“If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)

* “If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)

* “If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

* What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

* “Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)

* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

* “Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)
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>>132613041
>Burn. In. Hell
So bitter twisted and evil. You guys are fucked up. I am not Jewish btw.
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>>132613829
All religious texts have fucked up verses.
So if Jews do awful things why do you want to copy them???
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>>132613834
You are a crypto-kike Satan worshipper like the other cryptos in this thread, in due time you will be lynched you neocon race traitor
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>>132613668
>jewish ally propaganda is true

The jews claimed that the nazis created masturbation machines which jerks off the jews to death. Is everyone to believe that?

Or what about the claims that the nazis created trapdoor obstacle courses for jews to be killed on? All true right?


Fucking disgusting lying kike. This wont work here. This isn't reddit. Speaking of which, please go back.
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>>132614023
So you want to kill me because I have different politicial views???
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>>132613834
>I am not jewish btw

Sure kike. Vehemently defending a disgusting wretched people, exiled out of 115 different nations on separate occasions.


Pure "cohencidence" though right?


What about all these communist agitator, rebels, and traitors to America who were jews?


Pure "coincidence" right?
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>>132613244
>How fucking stupid are cuckservatives?
Don't know, not one. Current conservatives are utter cucks that I don't want to be affiliated with them.
>All nationalism pre 1950 was ethnonational or pan European.
So, you're going back on your own example of what made Nazi Germany right wing. k
>Women fucking donkeys on stage is "free speech"? Faggots gang raping children in jewish strip clubs is "free speech"?
Well, A that is not what I meant, and you know it. Nice strawman though. Anyways if a woman want to fuck a donkey that is her choice.
>You're a fucking kike aren't you.
Nice Ad hominem.
Come back when you have an actual argument.
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>>132614174
>exiled out of 115 different nations
Outdated figure. It's 359.
>>132612628
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>>132614174
So all whites are good and all Jews are inherently bad.
This tribalistic us vs them bullshit is so trying.
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>>132614149
We want to kill you because you're a lying jew who wants white people dead and gone. And you are using political and financial means to destroy our families.


You are pure evil. The antithesis of real humanity. I'd rather live in some dirt poor shitty African nation than live among jews. At least the blacks are honest about their intentions, they don't pretend to be your friend then slide a knife in your back slowly.
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>>132614042
>Everything i don't like is jewish propaganda: The neck-bearded aspie's guide to political discussion
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>>132614394
You can't seem to comprehend that everything you argue for is what is upholding the current globalist regime.
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>>132614268
No, I am going by the official definition you imbecile peasant.


>it's her choice

You need to fucking die.

Honestly I don't care to debate social degenerates. I would love to just kill them, and erase this stain on our honor as a species really. If you think it's ok for fags to rape children, or women to fuck animals on stage for entertainment, then I think you deserve to burn alive.
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>>132594211
Yeah and he saved Europe and the white race from the planned communist take over of the whole continent
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>>132614389
I don't want white people or anyone dead or gone.
White people aren't being killed, yes whites have lower birthrates than immigrants but there numbers are still increasing.
You Nazis seem the only people and ISIS who wants to eradicate certain groups of people based on a fallacy that all Jews are the same and all whites are good. Its complete cuckooo crazyness
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>>132614394
Media conglomerates are disproportionately owned by jews.

https://www.sec.gov/

Go here, look up the shareholder proportions and which institutions own them. They will eventually lead you to majority jewish names, of which you can check the background on.
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>>132614573
>DA GLOBALISTS!!!
How much for the water filter
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>>132614706
I also disagree with your views but would never want to kill you.
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>>132614712
What about all the non-jewish whites, shabbos goyim, right? You're pathetic, thanks for the laugh guys
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>>132605002
>muh free market
https://youtu.be/zrv78nG9R04
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>>132614706
>white people aren't being subtly genocided by demographic replacement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
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>>132614893
Your jewish life will suffer and be extinguished.

There is no end in which you will live happily jew.
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>>132614882
That's because you're a beta male who couldn't kill anything if it tried. Like all jews you rely on your money to pay for assassinations and other works.

You're a coward. Your entire fucking race.
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>>132614935
Genocide is where a group of people get killed, like the Native Americans or the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.

All these Barbara Spectre quotes are just so cringy I could get loads of quotes from Whites arguing for the destruction of the white race does that mean whites need exterminated ???
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