The old CNN

>>132572577
>cnn shills are this desperate
>l-look at what we used to be!
Your network is no better than a mid 2000's reality TV show.

I was in high school and believe by 2017 Iraq would be the 51st US state and a civilized democracy.

>>132572577
looks fuckin boring

>>132572577
Everybody loved Bush.

>Major I need you to strike these coordinates
>Sir it's a vacant lot
>The CNN camera is across the street Major
>Yes sir

>>132572577
I was 13, on vacation with my parents, staying in a hotel room at the time. Super comfy.

The last time Baghdad had reliable electricity and clean streets.

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>>132572577
>r-r-remember the good times g-g-goyim?
CNN you dun fucked up pretty bad this time

The time when you live streamed the creation of isis

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>>132572577
poor Saddam.

I'm just saying it was entertaining guys

About 6 months post invasion CNN did a report about all the Iranians operating in Iraq. This was before anyone ever heard of the Mahdi Army.

>>132572577
For what? Oil? To destabilize another tyrant? To wave our dicks? To get closer to taking out the Sauds? ... Fuck CNN and their enabling. They lied to us all. There were no WMDs. You were comfy watching those twin towers fall too, weren't you faggot? Comfortable from your own home or class room as those poor unwitting bastards had the world crash down upon their heads? The people that went to work every day, trying to make a difference? The people that jumped hundreds of feet to their deaths, in a futile attempt to escape the blazing inferno? So many times we've laughed about it because of how tragic it truly was but deep down inside, we're all fucking pissed it happened because it fucking shouldn't have. But it wasn't just Iraq, it was Afghanistan, it was Libya, now it's Syria. Every single time, the same fucking thing. We rush to the aid of some literal-who rebels we know nothing about because they tell us their government is genociding their people, with zero evidence other than bodies that haven't been autopsied. Were you aware that Ghadafi was a fucking saint? He had so much gold, he could have made Africa into one of the most rich and powerful continents in the world. He used his wealth and power to give housing and free medical to his people. He created a man-made river and irrigation system that was considered impossible and once finished, was registered by Guinness as a modern marvel. All he was guilty of was caring and we fucking killed him because his power threatened the USD. Face it, it's always most comfortable when you're sleeping and unaware of what's really going on in the world.

Fake news.

>>132572577

You dumb fuck.

Israel attacked the USA on 9/11, The proof: https://youtu.be/kyLyGXQUIo0?t=3m23s Just google it!

>>132573654
Whatever libfag, your leftist pasta sucks. Fuck CNN but fuck mudslimes too..

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>>132572577
You are now aware You where watching the bombing of civilians.

>>132573797
I never say it didn't, I wouldn't even know. But I did find watching a war against a country with a real army and dictator entertaining

>>132574017
A Dictator???? Are we talking about the same person?

The Guy that gave his people freedom from international banking cartels? Was a Dictator in your eyes?

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>ywn watch shock and awe live with /pol/

Also reflecting on it, it's a real fucking tragedy. Iraq was a nice country before this. You can literally hear the battle of Mosul start in the video and it's been in a state of perpetual war since.

For real you should atleast google shit before you open your dumb fucking mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHSkK30GMJQ

>2003

Just started high school that year. Seems like not even that long ago.

Pay attention the subtle language like how "chemical weapons program" became the didn't have a "active CW program. The same will happen with North Korea. Bait and switch.

>>132574153
T_D drinks cum straight from the tap.

>U.S. invades Iraq because Israel wanted it
>no other reason
>no wmds
>OP sucking Cnn's dick for televising missile strikes

Sounds like you love cut kike dick in your mouth you faggot.

>>132574240
I was a junior in high school. It doesn't feel like 14 fucking years ago..

Where did the time go?
Jesus I've been on this god forsaken website since spring 2006

>>132574196
Highest literacy in the Middle East. Functioning railway network. The electricity worked.

>>132574377
Guess who must go now because they are Iran's nuclear weapons factory.

>>132572577
But anon, basically every news network covered the Iraq war. Its war, of course you get comfy feel.

>>132574377
Why would Israel want the US to invade Iraq?

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>>132574180
Actually you, and most of us, will probably be part of the next "Shock and awe." I can't imagine the feel of shooting a Russian soldier and then finding /pol/ memorabilia somewhere on his person.

CNN went to Hell when Ted Turner sold it.

>>132572823
this senpai

>>132574515
Dude, this is literally the start of the war on live television, on mainstream media. You can see the Iraqis pitifully fire their AA into the air and then they get obliterated by Tomahawks

>>132574565
We should all carry pepes.

>>132572577
I remember they immediately started asking the question: "Is this war like Vietnam?"

Within 3 months they had changed their line to: "This war is like Vietnam."

A small semantic shift, after they had already psychologically primed their audience to believe it.

CNN were fucking villains in 2003. We should have burned their building to ashes long before now.

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>>132574687
I was thinking getting swastikas tattooed on our arms, but yea, I guess that works too.

Tfw can barely remeber anything before 9/11.

I literally remember everything from the week it happened though, everybody was watching the news all day. OP's image makes me feel uncomfortable. These fucks lied for 15 years and nobody was arrested or killed except our soldiers and arabs (many CHRISTIAN).

>>132572577
Imagine being a scum sucking moehommad worshiping haji in Iraq in 2003.

Imagine knowing there's this all powerful enemy out there and he's coming for you. And he's going to fuck you up. And there's nothing you can do about it.

What must have gone through the minds of those creatures?

I like to think they suffered in terror before meeting a horrible fate.

>>132572577
>CNN prepared for "invasion" like good little goyim
>sitting in hardened positions
>knowing exactly where the bombs are going to fall
>having the cameras setup beforehand on bomb targets
RIGGED! Fucking Jews rig everything.

Nothing was as comfy as watching the camera feed of planes bombing serbian munitions dumps from the confines of booth seating at the local hardees

>>132572577
Skip to 40:50 for the bombs.

>>132572577
>Remember when #1 Terror of World - bombed a country that wasn't Saudi-Arabia or Shitsrael?
I DO!

>>132574887
>. These fucks lied for 15 years and nobody was arrested or killed except our soldiers
Um Michael Moore exposed how the media changed their tune by 2004.

>>132573959
None of that shit is leftist, you stupid fucking imbecile. The leftists you're accusing that guy of being consider all of that conspiracy theory. They don't know anything about petrodollar warfare or Gaddafi's plan to implement gold-backed non-Rothschild currency. Fucking kill yourself, you're making the rest of /pol/ look bad.

>>132574725
The media, first to start a war and then first to gin up an anti-war movement. Good for ratings.

>>132574402
Iktfb, I've only been here since end of summer 2011 though.

>>132572785
Now it's a power vaccumb. Mark my words, if another attack hits the US as bad as 9/11 there will be another invasion worse than Iraq somewhere in the ME.

>>132575310
That's absolutely true. That's a good enough reason in my book to kill all of them. They want people to die so they can profit.

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>>132572577
they were fucking faggots back then too you just don't remember because you were a faggot back then and of course their Iraq coverage was good because there was nothing to spin, just this is what's happening right now.

>>132572577


Is there a way to get any stories from war time? Where CNN said there are WMD's in Iraq?

That will burn liberals because they like to hate on Bush so much (I detest him too) and if their favourite channel was pro-war then they'll have a breakdown

>>132575550
>>132575550
I searched (((Google))) archives and there was only one story but that was from nytimes in december 2003. Any other expert try?

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>>132574524
Israel benefited from the power vacuum left when Sadam was brought down. As it is benefiting from the war in Syria. Every State is engaged in perpetual competition against others to secure resources, technology, better trade deals, etc.
Israel maintains its position of Regional power by desestabilising neighbour States. Its in her interest that war keeps going on in the middle east, as it will prevent other states to challenge Israel.
Thats why they are always memeing the Iranians as a threat.

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This shit is just as much propaganda as CNN's regular programming today. You kids are so bafflingly stupid

>>132574004
Not really, they were taking out AA emplacements and military assets. The civilian deaths happened more once the Insurgency started.

>>132575361
>there will be another invasion worse than Iraq somewhere in the ME.
Probably Iran and we'll get our shit handed to us.

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I didn't see or hear a single missile.

>>132575683
I think for this reason Israel will never allow another powerful Arab Nationalist to rise and sort out their countries shit.

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>>132575801
If you actually believe we will lose a conventional war in the middle east than you are truly retarded.

>>132572577
I've been confused about the Iraq War since the beginning. I remember that Saddam Hussein agreed to comply but the US invaded anyway, and no WMDs were ever found.

Can someone give me the lowdown on the real reason the US started the Iraq War?

I'm sure the events in this clip fucked up an entire generation. The people who were kids will remember it when they're 90.

>>132572785
Ha! Stupid fuck. I knew it was going to be another Vietnam and it was.

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>americans still defend the iraq war

>>132575990
Define winning. Iraq doesn't look like victory.

>>132575801
No, we'll do fantastic on the initial invasion as we always do when it comes to backwards sand holes, but the real fun begins when the military is wiped out and the US military steps in for a while to quell the Islamic extremists. Then we leave and a terror group starts, but we don't have to deal with nuclear threats anymore.

>>132572577
Al Mawt Li Amerika for still defending this shit

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>>132572577
The good old days, eh. Hey sorry about Turdeau giving that Guantanamo terrorist $10 million. And on July 4th of all days! Almost like he wanted to tell all the people like you to go fuck yourself.

>>132576066
Why shouldn't we, praise Kek? We killed a pile of muzzies and didn't afraid of anything.

>>132576026
After 9/11 the US public was very anti-terrorism and Saddam was paying a reward to the families of suicide bombers in Israel. IMO this reason was on par with chemical weapons.

>>132576066
We found buried sarin gas canisters, and Syria got the rest. It's not hard to figure out that Saddam was still stockpiling chemical weapons illegally, and not hard to figure out that Bush just wanted to finish his daddy's war.

>>132576097
That's because Iraq was a war started for no reason. We thought the attacks were carried out by the country instead of a rogue terrorist faction.

>>132575935
And why a "Greater Israel" is not so far fetched either. By becoming a State, the jews have entered the Game of Thrones and forced to think Long Term. That could well be their "victory Condition" so to speak.

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>>132572577
>implying saddam did anything wrong
US was fucked then and its only slightly less fucked now.

>>132576287
>on par with chemical weapons

you mean nonsense, I agree

>>132572577
>look how comfy we are goy!

>>132576130
So we have to invade them because they don't have nuclear weapons yet. What happens when they actually have nuclear weapons? Will that keep us out or will we have to have nuclear exchange because freedom.

>>132576287
>Saddam was paying a reward to the families of suicide bombers in Israel.
I also remember that around this time there was a suicide bombing in Israel almost every week. They finally built a wall and ended the bombings. I didn't know Saddam was compensating the families, thanks anon.

Iraq got fucked simply because Saddam wanted to drop the dollar and take control over his central bank to create a gold backed Dinar. Sounds familiar.....

>>132576339
Practically everyone I knew was calling BS on the neocons pushing Iraq. We all knew it was a terrible idea, they weren't responsible, and ousting Saddam would leave a power vacuum fucking up the region for decades.
Shockingly that's exactly what happened.

>>132576097
Only because we left it before we rebuilt it completely but we did completely destroy and disband their armed forces and execute their leader and occupy their country for at least 8 years so I wouldn't say it was a loss. What does a victory look like in your opinion?

>>132575990
The problem is not winning a conventional war, it's what comes after. It is literally impossible for the armed forces of a 21st century Western democracy to suppress a native insurgency.

For what? Oil? To destabilize another tyrant? To wave our dicks? To get closer to taking out the Sauds? ... Fuck CNN and their enabling. They lied to us all. There were no WMDs. You were comfy watching those twin towers fall too, weren't you faggot? Comfortable from your own home or class room as those poor unwitting bastards had the world crash down upon their heads? The people that went to work every day, trying to make a difference? The people that jumped hundreds of feet to their deaths, in a futile attempt to escape the blazing inferno? So many times we've laughed about it because of how tragic it truly was but deep down inside, we're all fucking pissed it happened because it fucking shouldn't have. But it wasn't just Iraq, it was Afghanistan, it was Libya, now it's Syria. Every single time, the same fucking thing. We rush to the aid of some literal-who rebels we know nothing about because they tell us their government is genociding their people, with zero evidence other than bodies that haven't been autopsied. Were you aware that Ghadafi was a fucking saint? He had so much gold, he could have made Africa into one of the most rich and powerful continents in the world. He used his wealth and power to give housing and free medical to his people. He created a man-made river and irrigation system that was considered impossible and once finished, was registered by Guinness as a modern marvel. All he was guilty of was caring and we fucking killed him because his power threatened the USD. Face it, it's always most comfortable when you're sleeping and unaware of what's really going on in the world.

>>132574565

>pew pew pew
>machine gun bullets grazing your ear
>you're the last man fighting
>Russians charging over the battleground towards you
>pew pew pew
>you fall to the ground and begin bleeding out
>Russian soldiers advance into your trenches
>th-this is it
>you get a better glance at their helmets
>"born to feel" etched onto them
>cough "R-Reeeeeeeeee" cough "REEEEEEEE!" Ack
>your fellow soldiers join you
>suddenly the trenches are filled with the sound of angry frogs from both sides
>wake up in a hospital and talk about memes with your brothers

>>132572577
Mcfucking killyourself you dumb burger/jew.

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>>132572577
>I remember in 2003 watching the Iraq war begin on live television with Wolf Blitzer reporting on it. It was the comfiest feel ever. We watched hundreds of missiles fall on the Iraqi capital live on TV

The anti-war left must have shifted the Overton window successfully before they died off. Watching Brian Willaims slow stroke it when Trump sent all those missiles into Syria was probably the worst feel I've ever had. In 2003, when I was still a kid, yeah, I unrionically thought we were there for justice. Top kek. Thanks for this blackpill OP. You faggot.

Fuck CNN and fuck zog people.

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I remember Listening to "bombs over Baghdad" by Outcast during that show!

>>132573959
I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post

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>>132576175
>Thinking that the invasion of Iraq wasn't the beginning of the end.
>"Killed a pile of muzzies"
My brain is fucking melting

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>>132572737
Please watch

>>132572577
The old CNN worked hard at promoting war.

Now they're dealing with blow back.

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>>132572577
Quit acting like CNN is truth people! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yuKXgLbiOI We need a Christian owned news station that's Zionist free.

>>132573959
Fuck off, Betaberg. CNN, Islam, and Liberals are garbage but nothing compared to the kikery that is afoot behind the scenes. You know nothing.
>>132573975
>Join message board
>Reading is hard
>Shitpost mid 2000 era memes instead
>>>/bant/

>>132576802
The end of what? The muzzies? For a pile of them it was.

>>132572785
jesus what college where you accepted into?

Anyone remember Peter Arnett ? Yeah, that was funneh.

>>132576697

These evil tyrants who bring stability and wealth to the Middle East must be replaced by our superior democracies and free press. Liberty and justice for all!

>>132572994
It does still on base

>>132573797
Totally true, it was a bunch of Jew terrorists that masterminded 9/11, in fact when raiding Osama bin laden's hideout they found him wearing a funny jew hat while checking his stocks right before they shot him!

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>>132576704
>WW3 will be ended by autists REEEEEEing in a trench
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce
Wouldn't doubt it with the timeline we are in

>>132572577
>We watched hundreds of missiles fall on the Iraqi capital live on TV.
Ditto. Remember when they said they were targeting specific relevant buildings and/or key military/government people, including Saddam himself, when in reality they were just indiscriminately bombing civilians?

>>132576802
It's the little things that remind us of how debased we are.

>>132576802
>>132576910
I'm guessing he's talking about the end of Ba'athism because that will happen

>>132574565
autist cant serve

>>132576571
>Iraq got fucked simply because Saddam wanted to drop the dollar and take control over his central bank to create a gold backed Dinar. Sounds familiar.....

what would be the advantage of a gold backed dinar? investors can already purchase gold. Why would someone want to buy a shit skin currancy that would then need to be exchanged for gold?

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>>132576910
Thousands of Americans were killed and wounded in Iraq, literally blown to into fucking ragout - for what? There were little to no Islamist terrorists in Iraq before we invaded. Saddam had to make sure of that to secure his rule, he was one of the few who truly knew how Iraq worked. Now half the fucking country is swarming with ISIS and its affiliates. Yet here you are, talking out of the side of your sloped fucking head about "dead muzzies".

>>132576634
>Only because we left it before we rebuilt it completely.
This would not have been possible. Building democracy and rebuilding Iraq cannot coexist.

>>132577393
>"dead muzzies".

sadly ppl got short attention spans.before the migration people felt sad for the dead middle easterners. It's pretty shocking how strong the hatrid for muzzies has gotten in the last 2 years.

>>132576745
>In 2003, when I was still a kid, yeah, I unrionically thought we were there for justice.
I used to watch History Channel 15 hours a day and thought we were going to treated like liberators and this was going to be my generations WW2 moment.

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>>132577393
less than half now and mostly the northern border with Syria. Don't be naive they fought for global dominance, the instability of Iraq lead to the weakening of other countries and the Arab Spring. It's part of the big game and most likely is a step towards tearing down the power of Iran.

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran

>>132577393
>for what?
The chance to kill muzzies.
>There were little to no Islamist terrorists
lies.
>Saddam had to
Saddam's regime was a State sponsor of terror.
>he was one of the few who truly knew how Iraq worked
Oh, but you truly know how Iraq works? From your great perspective behind your computer?
>half the fucking country is swarming with ISIS
lies.
>Yet here you are
And here you are.
>before the migration people felt sad
Apply your own criticism to yourself. People have hated muzzies since 9/11.
>the last 2 years
You're an idiot. Any veteran will tell you they hate muzzies because they had to know muzzies.

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>>132577638
We were, anon. It was our ww2 moment.

Then CNN and the other anti-American presstitutes took it away.

>>132572577
Yeah... fighting a war for Israel... so comfy.

>>132577415
Re-education of Iraqi youths and propping up a stooge government that allows the consumption of western media and culture would absolutely have worked. But I doubt any politician would go for that because they be scared of not being reelected .

>>132577918
>Saddam's regime was a state sponsor of terror.
Who still fucking believes this? How can you be so fucking dense?

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CNN was absolute garbage way before Trump.

>>132578124
It was proved in federal court. He literally had 747 hulls where thousands of jihadis practiced how to hijack passenger jets.

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>>132577999

>>132577999
No it was a pointless waste. I went to Iraq in 2004 and saw first hand how fucked that place was. US troops weren't even there to support law and order it was to troll for trouble.

>>132577102

I remember. I was a cuckservative teenager at the time and I thought that was just anti-war liberals trying to defame our troops. It's almost surreal to think that I trusted the media and government and thought that, while they could be corrupt, they were at least trying to do the right thing. Now I realize the USA is ruled by Jews and corruption is what they strive for.

Anyone else know these feels? Ashamed of how cucked I used to be desu.

>>132578074
>I doubt any politician would go for that because they be scared of not being reelected .
This is a problem too. A democracy like ours cannot commit to any long term plans.

>>132578429
>Now I realize the USA is ruled by Jews
do you really believe this?

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>>132574524
>Being American
>Knowing less about the war than 90% of the world

Jesus. Don't you fucking remember Bibi standing in front of your congress, urging them to topple the Saddam regime? And he guaranteed that taking down Saddam would have immensely positive effects on the middle eastern region as a whole.

>>132578411
US troops aren't cops. They're troops. Don't send Marines to police something. Marines are for killing people and blowing shit up.

>>132578510
Yes, and it's unfortunate.

>>132578819
What is a occupying force supposed to do?

>>132578631

Yes.

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>>132578226
Please show me any evidence of that beyond your word.

>>132572577
So we literally bombed the shit out of innocent Iraqis in order to get Saddam for refusing to comply with the (((petrodollar))) scam.

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>>132576417
ISIS is Israeli

They are responsible for all their actions

>>132578952
Force a change in government so that the occupying force can leave.

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>>132572577
that was all green screen op. they have
always been fake news for jew bankers
and what ever other kike wanted top push a profitable meme.

>>132579194
In theory. The first government totally collapsed at the time of the first elections.

>>132579194
You can't force a nation to adopt democracy. Not morally, literally impossible.

>>132579493
Yes, you can, you just have to somewhat forcibly change their culture.

>>132576771
>>132576905
>E-ERRYBODY THAT'S NOT ME IS A KIKE
Righty-O

>>132577918
Don't bother trying to use reason, the guy you're replying to is a conspiracy theory crypto-leftist idiot who probably also thinks the moon-landing was faked.

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>>132575990
>Iraq can't beat Iran with U.S. and USSR support + arms (and permission to use chemical weapons) despite Iran having no friends and literally being a new government
>push Iran into Russia and China's arms with the Syrian Civil War
>w-we can win

mfw

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>>132572577
>rich JEWS using your troops to advance their interests, while their media gets rich off dumb lemmings watching the destruction of a country that NEVER ATTACKED THE USA
>comfy

You're a lemming of the worst kind.

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COMPANIES SUPPORTING CNN-

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McDonalds
Men's Warehouse
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Microsoft
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BOYCOTT THESE FAGGOTS. CONTACTING THEIR SPONSERS HAS ALREADY HAS CAUSED THEM MASSIVE BUTTHURT TODAY. EMAIL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW YOUR DONE BUYING THEIR SHIT

>>132579071
Smith v Republic of Iraq et al

$104 million for September 11 victims, the only September 11 verdict in history.

The firm won a $104 million verdict in 2003 on behalf of the families of victims of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks. The verdict was directed against the Republic of Iraq, al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. The case was tried before a Federal Judge in Manhattan. The lawyers from The Beasley Firm were the first and only to prove that the Republic of Iraq provided “material support or resources” to, and conspired with, Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network of terrorists. The Beasley Firm lawyers took a shrewd approach, focusing on only six defendants. We deployed expert witnesses in masterful fashion, with testimony powerful enough to convince a federal judge that a credible cause of action existed. It was a case widely scoffed at by legal observers when it was first filed. No one thought The Beasley Firm lawyers could marshal sufficiently compelling evidence. Instead, with the assistance of former CIA director R. James Woolsey, and Laurie Mylroie, Ph.D., as well as compelling satellite photos, statements from foreign Ambassadors, and volumes of exhibits, The Beasley Firm obtained the world’s only 9-11 verdict.

http://www.beasleyfirm.com/results/

>>132579493
Explain Japan and Germany post-WW2.

>>132580030
>Critically examining the causes and effects of Iraq war
>Conspiracy theory
>Comparable to moon landing
Tbh a lot of people on /pol/ nowadays sound like some sorts of boomers with lead-addled brains - who finally figured out the syntax of web 2.0. Please sit back, relax, and die of cardiovascular disease or hypertension as we enjoy the doomed world you've created, you dumb fuck.

>>132579360
Incorrect. The Sunni majority boycotted the first election, fearing that a Shiite majority would win and lord it over them.

Of course, by NOT FUCKING VOTING, the Sunnis ensured that the Shiites would get their majority, since only Shiites went to vote.

Consequently, the Sunnis, feeling oppressed and put upon, decided to form their own little Jaysh militias, many of them joining what eventually became Al Sadr's army. They started to carry out terror attacks and ethnic cleansing in retaliation for the Shiite victory.

The Shiites then responded in kind, but rather than form militias, they just occupied the government positions that could direct the Iraqi police and military that were being trained by Americans.

At the same time there were Baathist remnants who had planned for a protracted insurgency smuggling in weapons and munitions from primarily Iran and giving a stiff organized resistance.

And there were loads of foreign mujaheden jihadis coming in through primarily Syria (because Assad was pushing them into it) who just wanted to die for Allah.

All the while the US military, which actually understood the reality of the situation pretty well, was incessantly hampered by the State Department which was operating under political correctness and liberal assumptions that have no basis in fact.

In short, it was a mess born of muzzies being muzzies.

>>132580733
>The Sunni majority
I stopped reading there.

>>132580733
>Sunni majority

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>132573654
tl:dr - the left can't meme

>>132580733
This is why you Nazi lovers will always be laughed at and seen as a joke.

Remember when they teported that gas bombs were falling in saudi arabia in the 90s?
>youtube videos prove it

>>132572577
How long until brussels?

>>132581331
Truth hurts, doesn't it.

>>132580334
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/262/217/2395373/

Here's a full copy of the brief, which is actually titled 'Smith v. Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan', not that the facts seem to matter to you.

The evidence against Iraq, which was added as a defendant after the lawsuit was filed, consists of testimony from former CIA director for Bill Clinton, Robert Woolsey, and Iraq "expert" Laurie Mylroie.

1) Robert Woolsey's testimony is based on evidence manufactured by the CIA that was later proven to be false.
a) The alleged 'Prague meeting' between Mohammed Atta and Iraqi Intelligence operatives, which was subsequently investigated by the FBI and the Czech intelligence services, and proven to not have occurred. Dick Cheney even admitted in 2006 that the intelligence report provided by the CIA was beyond flimsy.
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html
b) A letter from then CIA director George Tenet, who later wrote in a memoir that Vice President Cheney had encouraged him to act pursuant to creating an imminent threat of the Iraqi regime.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/washington/27intel.html?pagewanted=all
c) The "evidence" of hijacking training grounds was provided by an Iraqi defector in a 'Frontline' Interview, which was later debated to be unreliable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Pak_facility#Sabah_Khodada

2) Laurie Mylroie is known to be an unreliable, if not at least controversial, voice on Iraqi affairs.
https://web.archive.org/web/20081101154056/http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.bergen.html

3) The court defaulted in judgment against Iraq because none of the defendants appeared in court.

Please, please, please THINK for a FUCKING SECOND about what happened to our country.

I can't help but notice that a lot of antiwar idiots like this >>132580644 guy have no answer to this >>132580334.

>f-fucking BOOMER
k

>>132582789
Go back and read my claims. I said it was proved in federal court. What did the court find? Oh my God, they found that there was proof that Iraq was a State sponsor of terror!

I know you have a hardon for hatred of America. How wonderful for you. But maybe you should actually use your brain and start caring about FACTS before you start accusing others of not doing the same.

>>132580893
>FUCK OFF WITCHO FACTS NIGGA
I hate nu/pol/.

>>132572785
Typical american idiot.

>>132572577
THEY ALL DESERVE TO HANG FOR DOING THIS

IT WAS BASED ON LIES, THEY LIED SO YOU WOULD LET THEM DO THIS, THIS IS WHY YOU'RE HATED AND WHY YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET
YOU DID THIS BASED ON LIES YOU INVADED AND MURDERED AND YOU LET IT HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU LIKED THE LIES AND THOUGHT IT WAS JUSTIFIED

LOOK AT THESE SCUM DESCRIBING THE HAVOK THEY CAUSED FOR THE FAT SCUM VIEWERS AT HOME WATCHING IT LIVE YOU, WATCHED IT LIVE

>>132583039
Whatever evidence presented in that case wasn't disproven, is debatably unreliable. Are we supposed to not examine that? I know it may be hard for you to conceive, but thousands of Americans died in Iraq, for no fucking reason. I don't know how objecting to that means I hate America.

>>132572577
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE BOMBS FALLING WHILE YOU WATCHED YOU WATCHED THEM FALL AND SAID IT WAS JUSTIFIED AND THIS IS WHY YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET
EVERY SINGLE "TERRORIST" DOES IT WITH THIS DAY IN MIND

>>132583740
>THEY LIED SO YOU WOULD LET THEM DO THIS,
Not all of us believed the bullshit but being vocal about it only got you branded as unpatriotic and a terrorist sympathizer.

>>132582986
please refer to
>>132582789

>>132572577
They were full of shit back then, remember Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with 911. CNN was instrumental in pushing the fake news weapons of mass destruction the neocons were using to go to war with every nation that wouldn't play ball with the banking cabal. Also known as the war on terror.

>>132583740
Nah I still support it

>>132583753
Examine whatever you like, I couldn't care less. But my claim was that the status of the Iraqi government as sponsors of terror was proved in federal court.

The evidence shows that it was, in fact, proved in federal court.

You keep saying that that Americans died for no reason in Iraq. But your claim is unsupported by your evidence, which amounts to no more than slander of the people who gave testimony in court.

Which, by the way, is an old argument. When you can't win on the merits, attack the individual instead!

You claim to not hate America while you slander the efforts of the men whose bodies you're trying to climb up on to plant your little flag? That's why I say you hate America. Go live in Cuba, you piece of filth.

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>>132574837
There's been a contigency for this for years.

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>>132583960
We watched them fall on a shitty regime that was causing us trouble, yes you have some troublesome terror attacks but that'll just cause more war. We caused the Arab spring, we destabilized Syria, Libya and Iraq and we will come for you too unless you realize why your sandnigger countries are problems for the rest of the world.

>>132584760
So you're all for the American way like Superman and Bugs Bunny, how did you feel about Saddam's day in court, or those of his cabinet ministers, the USA was in charge of that.

Anyone have the video where there's american artillery shooting hundreds of shells at what appears to be a single target?

>>132585076
They were tried by the Iraqi people. Honestly, I couldn't care one way or the other what happened to them. I'm very proud of how his sons got their brains blown out, though.

>>132585016
Is it because they're in the way of greater Israel?

>>132584760
>But my claim was that the status of the Iraqi government as sponsors of terror was proved in federal court.

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/10/10/us/california-judge-rules-holocaust-did-happen.html

So, if we're to accept what has been found in U.S. courts as incontrovertible fact, then you must concede that ,as Judge Thomas T. Johnson found, Jews were in fact gassed en masse at Auschwitz-Birkenau?

>>132585524
Archived it https://archive.is/Ne6N

>>132580370

yuge IQ and neuroplasticity

>>132585192
>Honestly, I couldn't care one way or the other
Could have just shortened every one of your posts to this senpai. Your flag seems pretty contradictory to your convictions, given that you've defended the deaths of Americans for nothing but the expansion of the Israeli security state. Good fucking goy, I wish you well.

>>132576837
>please clap

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>>132576837
What is the CNN equivalent of turtles?

>>132572577
Best news year ever.

Libya was quite good though and if you found video online the Georgia war was like a mini 80's cold war gone hot episode.

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>>132585265
It is because they are unpredictable third world regimes segregated by uneducated tribalism and they are too close to Europe. I'll give you a quick redpill, Israel is our bitch and our wars are for our interests, your governments and culture blames Isreal to distract you from how shitty and tyrannical they actually are.

>>132585192
They were all your guys, all were CIA stooges, like Gaddafi, It's no wonder they're all confused. Saddam was good friends with the US neocons who backed him to liberate Iran for the bankers earlier. You can't keep backstabbing everyone.

>>132585550
thank you

>>132577999
The British took that statue down, not the Iraqi people. Just so they could lie about it in the future.

>>132585850
So I should stop saying that the invasion of Iraq was unjustified, based on lies, and continued through 3 elections? What I should instead do is tear down my government?

>>132572577
The Iraq War spent trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives to replace Saddam with a country composed equally of Zionist stooges and psychopathic Islamists.

And CNN sold it to the American people. Fuck them.

>>132580208
I wish that pic would have had more pepperoni if you know what I'm saying.

>>132586134
>thousands of American lives
Ban swimming pools.

>>132585570

it's very easy for smart people to adapt. you can drop them in a new country or job and they'd succeed every time. navigating a domestic regime change for them is trivial.

mandatory (((qualifications))) are understood by most people to be necessary because they can't fathom a life where you intuitively understand things up instantly. smart people are competent at most things from day 1, but smarter sociopathic people realized they could make a hierarchy with themselves at the top by telling the masses that (((qualifications))) made you smart and were necessary to do any job.

germany and japan have lots of smart people. the middle east mostly has goblin drones like everyone else. i imagine that's why the (((US military))) still has millitary bases balls deep in these countries; gotta keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

>>132585524
You are straw manning my argument. I never claimed that if something was proved in court it was an incontrovertible fact. I claimed that Iraq was found in court to be a State sponsor of terror, which is a true claim.

Plessy v. Ferguson also proved in federal court that Jim Crow segregation was legal. The Dred Scott decision was proved in court that slavery was legal. Our history is replete with things that we would today consider morally wrong, but held up as legal.

Nevertheless, my point stands and yours does not. Your further attempt to impeach the decision by slandering the people that gave testimony just goes to show the weakness of your argument.

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>>132586132
The excuse put to the public was based on lies yes the war should have been waged during the Gulf War and what you should do is start changing your country for the better and focus on humanism instead of barbarism.

>>132585661
>deaths of Americans for nothing
You keep saying that, but it's still unsupported by the evidence.

Thanks for telling me what I believe, though. You sure would be the expert on that, wouldn't you?

>>132585857
Your view of history is warped. Gaddafi was an enemy of the United States for twenty years before the Bush administration reigned him in. It was the Obama-Clinton machine that turned him into an enemy again because they couldn't have Bush era victories stand.

With regard to the Iran-Iraq war, of course the United States backed Iraq. The Iranians had just held our citizens hostage in 1979. But it was Saddam who stabbed us in the back by invading Kuwait, not the other way around. Talk about a war for nothing, his aggression came out of nowhere and served no point except to piss everyone else off and get loads of Iraqis killed.

>>132584851
This is some normie Illuminati shit. Not /pol/ related at all

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>>132586309
>I claimed that Iraq was found in court to be a State sponsor of terror
>>132577918
>Saddam's regime was a State sponsor of terror.

You later qualified that this was proven in a U.S. civil court lawsuit, premised on evidence we now know is largely false. I don't think that is or was sufficient evidence to connect the Iraqi regime to the September 11th attacks, let alone to invade the country of Iraq. There's plenty of evidence that the CIA and State Department contrived evidence of Iraqi WMD development and terror connections, in order to drum up domestic and international support for an invasion of Iraq. You're one of very few people still clinging on to the idea that Iraq was good for America or Americans. I feel bad for you.

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FUCK THE WAR.
FUCK THE LAST 16 YEARS OF ENDLESS WAR.
FUCK THIS ENDLESS WAR.

>>132586867
I have consistently made the same claim over and over. You have been straw manning my argument, weaseling, moving the goalposts, and personally attacking the people who gave testimony in a vain attempt to prop up a position that was only popularized by anti-Americans in the press just like CNN.

You should feel bad for yourself for letting them manipulate you so.

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CNN BLOAT THREAD
free helicopter ride for OP and the shilling
SAGE

>>132587001
>personally attacking the people who gave testimony
How have I personally attacked anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk

It was the same old media back then too. Don't kid yourself if you think the whole "fake news" is a new thing. The media lied and fabricated evidence to push the justification for war just like they're lying and fabricating evidence that Russia hacked the election now.

What you have to understand is the news will always try to cater to the largest audience possible and confirm their bias.

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>>132584171
>please refer to
>>>132582789
Which he promptly demolished here >>132583039. You are welcome to try again.

>>132587001
>You should feel bad for yourself for letting them manipulate you so.
> Gaddafi was an enemy of the United States for twenty years before the Bush administration reigned him in.
I feel like I'm going to vomit

>>132587169
Good luck to both of you relics of the past. Thanks again for the abysmal future you've handed us.

>>132572577
>Iraq War II

Iraq War I on CNN was maximum comfy. We had never seen coverage like that before.

>>132587183
what are you from Tumblr?

>>132586404
So maintaining the petrodollar so your politicians can bribe you for votes is solid justification for your government invading Iraq and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people with your permission because they're bribing you?

It's not justified or okay at any point in the process. That's why you're getting what you deserve.

>>132587300
Seeing /pol/ infested with shriveled boomer 'pedes has taken a psychological toll. It's like a neural network of humans whose personalities and critical faculties have been replaced with a low-grade copy of Rupert Murdoch's consciousness.

>>132572900
Kek

Bush jokes lol
Space daddy lmao
CHAAAAANGE

Wasn't that comfy from my perspective

>>132572577
you mean the globalist pushed invasion of iraq that started the immigration wave that has now destroyed europe? yeah bro super comfy move by CNN am i right?

>>132587275
hey niger

>>132587844
Sup sup

>>132587959
ur using a proxy right?

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>>132588013
No

dude what the fuck i was in middle school 6-7 grade or so and i was fucking glued to the tv for the first 48 hours, didnt sleep
is this some psyop shit looking back? how long has cnn been fake news? we need to start looking back at the last couple decades a little closer

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>>132587259
>>132587553
>y-you're OLD! we r the FUTURE, fuck amerikkka Ghadafi was a fucking SAINT herp DERP -
Annnnd that about wraps it up here. Incidentally, I'm 26 but you probably won't believe that either. G'night.

>>132587747
Look, I'm sorry we ruined date night with Tabitha, but come on man, there are plenty of goats in the desert.

>>132588038
so ur an actual nigger in niger?

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>>132587495
No, Saddam turning on us after we supported him and being an unstable ruthless leader is the only justification we need. Once again you have this big boogeyman that you have to blame instead of looking at the actions that lead up to all the conflict. Nothing is as black and white as you try to make it and these small terror attacks are nothing. The only thing they truly bring is more bombs down upon you.

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>>132574565
>when a normie dies

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>>132588142
>26
>young
Fuck off gramps. I'm 8 fuckin years old I'm the goddamn future also Gaddafi wasn't that bad Saudis did Lockerbie keep eating the slop goyim make sure to tip your waitress

>>132574180
the shitpostings platforms were irc, usenet and ham radio back in the days

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/communications/logs/Gulf-War/desert-storm/

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>>132587553
I know that feel anon.

>>132588333
>Saudis did Lockerbie

Libya would have zero reason to take the fall for Saudi Arabia.

>>132588200
Such a boot licker. It's not a bogeyman it's a root cause. Unless this was done just because.
Wouldn't have happened without the petrodollar which exists to buy votes.

>>132588200
>Saddam turning on us

Got that backwards, chief. Not that I'd expect a Game of Thrones fan to be anything other an ill-informed retard.

>>132588538
Bootlicker? no, I just respect power, maybe Iraq should have done the same.
> it's a root cause
please tell me why it was happening pre-US involvement then.

>>132588625
Oh really Mr historian, please tell me the blue pilled version of events then.

>>132588822
That's boot licking. And why what was happening?

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>>132573959
Found the Neo-Conservative faggot

>>132572994
>reliable electricity

kek youre telling me I remember flying over it in V-22s just two years ago watching entire city districts blackout at once on nvgs.

Fucking dunecoons

>>132586591
Yeah I'm on the non CNN version.

>>132589468
The same violence and fuckery that you now blame the US for creating.

>>132587061
see
>>132582789

>>132587553
>muh Rupert Murdoch
It's not enough for you that he's dead, you have to keep complaining too?

When will you drop the shilling and get an actual argument?

>>132589851
Funnily enough, FNC is owned by an Australian.

>(((CNN)))
>(((Wolf Blitzer)))
>(((War in Iraq)))
Trying this hard to keep the (((dream))) alive aren't you OP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJWRw8bRwt4

>>132589895
So in pursuit of the ideal that the Iraqis could not see, your people not only went down to their level but far beyond it? Because violence is bad? Is that it? It wasn't over the petrodollar or Israel, it was just about killing sand niggers? How does their tribal life in a desert credibly threaten or create a problem for the US?

>>132572785
Yeah, because if a foreign country blew up half your captial, raped your women and torched innocent families, you'd love to join them.

>>132585779
dried ovaries.

>>132590370
Americans love Saudis...

>>132590255
It had to do with a large regional power flexing its muscles against the wrong people, and the tribalism is a breeding ground for anti-intellectualism and religious extremism. Keep trying to push the "if we kill them they win" agenda but it won't work. You can keep thinking the war was about Israel and the petrodollar if you want but it had everything to do with power moves and maintaining or gaining dominance in the region.

>>132572577
"Old CNN" - the same Jews News Network that lied about WMD and started a war for Greatest Ally.
It's still pushing for wars in ME, MUH ASSAD, MUH GAS.
Blood and souls of US soldiers for Greater Israel.

>>132590167
He's an American citizen.

>>132589935
I didn't personally attack anybody mentioned in that. I simply provided evidence that their specific claims were later proven to be false or dubious, which is characteristic of almost all of the evidence presented to the American people about Iraq, its connections to 9/11, and WMD. It's important. We were tricked into a trillion dollar war against an enemy whose threat and connection to 9/11 was dubious at best. There was no victory, only thousands of dead Americans and an obliterated country that became a breeding ground for al-Qaeda and its successors. America is in a strategically weaker position because of the Iraq war. There was no positive result of that war. Yet you're still here, still fucking brainwashed.

>>132590968
He was born in Australia, he was educated in Australia, he formed his attitudes on life and the world from the Australian culture in which he grew up. Eventually he became an American by choice because he, like every other American immigrant, decided that our society is superior to the one he left. But make no bones about it. He's as Australian as it gets.

To put it another way, Murdoch's father was a journalist himself during the first world war. He was at the battle of Gallipoli, which was a stunning defeat for the allied forces. The elder Murdoch broke military censorship rules to publish his account of the battle, which cemented Australian anti-war sentiment and eventually culminated in reforms to the British military system, such as putting Australian officers in command of Australian troops rather than English officers. It doesn't get much more Australian than that.

>>132591078
Your "evidence" was no more than "hurr, she's not a credible person." It's ad hominem, not argument. You also fundamentally fail to understand the Bush doctrine, which for all of its flaws actually works. If the United States is strategically weaker overall from Iraq, that is due to the precipitous withdrawal under the Osama regime which was instituted over military objections and was motivated by no more than one narcissist's obsession with domestic politics at the expense of the sunk cost that had already been paid into that war. But even still, Iraq will stabilize and become more free than it ever was under Saddam, and history will count that war as a victory for America and Americanism overall. You're just too myopic and blinded by anti-Americanism to see it.

>>132590847
This.
The jew-owned media is NOT your friend.

>>132590651
What muscles? They didn't have any muscle to flex. These "Wrong people" ARE COMMITING GENOCIDE AND STILL ARE TO THIS DAY Indeed tribalism is not where humanity lives but are you forgetting that they had been independant for less than 100 years?
It was not ever justified and you get what you deserve.

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>>132591545
>You also fundamentally fail to understand the Bush doctrine, which for all of its flaws actually works.
>Osama regime
>Iraq will stabilize and become more free than it ever was under Saddam
Pls go back. Why are you doing this? You say in the same breath that Obama's withdrawal compromised the mission, but nonetheless Iraq will soon arise from the ashes to be a shining beacon of freedom. If you're not trolling, you're actually a bug person. Your brain has been melted by twenty years of Fox News' mental popcorn. Please PLEASE leave /pol/ and don't come back.

>>132572900
i mean, it's shock and awe, so im sure there was some of that.

if we were going for massive casualties we could have easily killed all of them.

>>132576892
oh no, not wayne cuckbright!
no one on pol has said this ever, this was their amazing live coverage of shock and awe.
it's not even CNN that uploaded the video/takes credit for the views.

>>132572577
jew go home

>>132592183
You argue like an SJW.
>I disagree with you so you're not allowed to speak.
We have General Mattis in the DOD, and he's the guy who really sorted Iraq the last time. The Islamic State is on its heels everywhere it ever made gains. Soon enough Iraq will have peace, and when they start doing well for themselves you had better remember your posts. Remember them, and be ashamed of yourself.

My first 'live CNN experience' was at 15 or so watching the Elián González kid affair. I was watching live from New Zealand when they raided his home and took him. To think that he's now 23.

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>>132574591

I watched the first gulf war live too

>>132574725
They sucked in desert storm,too.

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CNN mobilizing their army of doxxers to dox the internet...