America hasn't won a war since WW2. Prove me wrong faggots.

>>132557863
We didn't win WW2 either.

>>132557863
What was Herbert Walker bushes war to protect kuwait from saddam Hussein for $200 Alex?

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>>132557863
America didn't win WW2, the International Bolshevism did.

There hasn't been a war since WW2

>>132557981
Undeclared dying for Israel like all "wars" the US has fought since WWII. The US has only declared war 5 times in its history.

>>132557863

the war on drugs boyo

>>132557863

We won the war in Granada.

>>132557863
First Gulf War was a pretty big ass kicking, I'd say we won

>>132557863
Korea
Gulf
Drugs
Iraq (mostly)

>>132557863

>Congress approved its last formal declaration of war during World War II.

wtf it's almost as if we haven't even fought in a real war since then

>>132558328
Oh yea, we won so hard we had to do it all over again 12 years later

>>132557863
Meme War, 2016
America won.

we btfo saddam's forces twice, the only recent conventional forces we've faced

Everything else has been insurgent warfare, which, as history shows, is an unwinnable fight, completely impossible to win.

>>132557863
War on poverty
War on majority white

WW2 only time Americans proved themselves, toughest SOB's in the time, today's military personnel consist of pussies. Safe spaces, sensitivity training.

>>132559008
>that T-54s vs M1A1 battles
>had to bring 18 other countries for support

WE WUZ WARRIORS N SHIET

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What if I told you the wars we've fought weren't meant to be won, goy. Also, pic related

>>132559476
>today's military personnel consist of pussies. Safe spaces, sensitivity training.

I'm pretty sure that's just a meme.

>>132557863
Cold war faggot

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>>132559511
>non nato member doesn't understand what article 5 is

retard alert

>>132557863
The civil war was the last war won by the US.

>>132557863
> what is the gulf war

Panama ?

>>132557863
wow this is going to go somewhere, isn't it?

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The US won the VIetnam war. We lost the battle but won the war. The goal of the war was to s op the expansion of communism into vietnam. Well, today there are many international companies that do business and make products in Vietnam. They are not Communist, but capitalists. Thus we won the war.

>>132557863
It hasn't been about winning for a long time, OP

>>132559678
It isn't, their military is really a bunch of faggots pretending they did something great and trying to leech of gubmint welfare claiming ptsd.

>>132559678

Obama tried to add a lot of programs like that to the military.

US Army personnel actually had to sit through lectures on white privilege while Obama was in charge. Thank fuck that baboon is out of office.

>>132559898
We're talking about wars of US, not NATO.

>>132559678
If it wasn't for all the cool hardware they have, it would be a joke

>>132558683
Two largest wars in recent history were only 20 years apart

>>132557863
I wonder (((why)))

And yet they're still shitting at everyone else and you can't do shit about it. What does that say about you.

>>132560280

It's a result of Obama putting women in charge of the military. I feel sorry for anyone having a talking cunt bossing them around and trying to feminize them.

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>>132560088
No Son. Vietnam was another illegal war. Illegal wars cannot be won.

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they're winning the war on drugs and making private prison investors fucking rich
sure morally it doesn't make any sense but nothing in america does, only money talks

>>132558240
The war on drugs shouldn't be called the "war" on drugs because all wars end.

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>>132557863
"Won" WW2.

That's a kicker.

>>132560671
the war on terror will never end

>>132557863
we won the defensive battle of korea
we militarily won vietnam
we did some shit in panama or something
and this desert stuff has gotten us good prices on oil, which is a win

>>132557965
cuck

>>132557863
>>132557863 technically, the US has not officially DECLARED war since World War 2

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>>132559008
Sadly that minor victory backed fire on us.
>>132560624
>Not wanting niggers to be locked away.

>>132557863
America has won every war except Vietnam. Politicians have lost the peace after some wars, but militarily, every enemy force has been confronted and subdued by the US military.

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>>132559476
Everyone always forgets the Korean War. Some vets who fought in WW2 previously say that the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir was the most brutal battle they've fought.

>>132559678
It's not super far from the truth. The military is definitely not as strong as it used to be. But I wouldn't go so far as to say some retarded shit like >>132560354, there's still plenty of real warriors in there.

>>132560354
>if it wasn't for all the military innovations they created,the us military would be a joke

kys

America defeated Slobadan

>>132559600
This. This so much, it's just a money making scam. Not once in the last 70 years has their been a legitimate threat to our homeland by another country, yet we are embroiled in constant minor 'wars' with bullshit third world countries. Just burning those defense $$$.

>>132557863
>America hasn't won a war since the most recent World War
My brain is doing things right now...

>>132560909
"but only niggers get arrested"
that's a meme, if you're white and have some pot you will get charged and it will enrich the police department with grants for fighting the war on drugs, it will enrich the private prisons, it will enrich the prison industry probation offices, etc.

>>132559600
>Died in 1940
>Quote uses language which wasn't commonplace until the 2nd half of the 1900s

>>132557965

We invaded italy
We invaded france
We invaded South east asia
We invaded japanese held islands and Japan

perhaps you should locate your history...nope its not in you ass.

>>132557863

There was a time that writing the phrase "Prove me wrong" was an automatic banning.

>>132560088
We lost Vietnam. Fuck, Ho wanted to be our friend, we should have accepted that and supported him. He was more a nationalist than a communist.

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>>132557863
Saged

SLIDE THREAD

Stop falling for slide threads

Did America really lose the Vietnam war in the end?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dhrOrexkg

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>>132557965
true

>>132561442
Stop larping you loser.

>>132561248
You have to go OUTBACK

>>132561417
>He was more a nationalist than a communist.
Yes, we all know that. He had that issue with China though---an issue that later became a war with them. We wanted to stop communism in Vietnam. Communism is not in vietnam. Regardless of how Ho felt, or what he really wanted, we achieved our objectives in the end.

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>>132557965

>>132561547
Kys faggot. When so you little cunts go back to school again?

>>132561751
No because Vietnam was communist for many years. Vietnam opening up is a recent development and just shows how pointless the war was.

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>>132557863
sage all slides.

>>132561859
This is school for me. I'm schooling losers on 4chan.

>>132557863

America lost WW2 too, you know. The only winner was the Jewish global finance system.

>>132557863
the U.S hasn't declared a war since WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

In a goal sense probably not. In a combat sense we flatten people

Did we not win Korea? We went in, accomplished our stated objective, and a favorable armistace was signed.

>>132561947
>The goal of WWII was to remove nazis from power.

>The Nazis were in power for many years

>Thus the US lost WWII

>>132557863
We haven't fought a war since then.

>>132561751
>>132560088
>believing the communist meme

Defense budget before vietnam: $10 billion
After: Over $100 billion

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>>132558902
this

>>132562273
That's literally one of the dumbest things ever. When WWII ended, Nazis were out of power, thus a victory. When Vietnam ended, the communists controlled the entire country, thus a defeat. You can't be this stupid, have to be larping.

>>132559511
you could change out the T-55s for T-72Bs with experienced Russian crews, and it wouldn't have made a difference. Russia had garbage ass night vision systems for their tanks.

>>132562605
You may be illiterate. I said, originally, that the US lost the battle but won the war. Yeah, the "viternam war" we lost but the larger objective of the war, to stop communism, we achieved. Thus although we lost the battle which was called the Vietnam War, we won the war against communism in Vietnam. You can understand the nuance and complexities of history, right? You arent an autist that cant think outside of basic quantitative functions, right?

>>132562978
No, we lost the war, plain and simple. Because things may have changed over time, does not suddenly turn a defeat into victory.

>>132557863
The US doesn't lose shit until we pack up and leave. Doesn't count if we aren't there to fight back anymore.

Don't get me wrong, we've dipped our dicks in some stupid shit in the past fifty-sixty years.

>>132563480
So losing a battle means the whoooooole war effort is over based on one setback? Tactics and strategies cant change? So the South Won teh Civil War because they won at 1st Bull Run?

>>132563762
You are acting like the Vietnam War was a single battle, which is retarded. Britain is now allied with the US, does that mean they won the American Revolution?

>>132564027
What was the goal of the American Revolution. Was it to make Britain an Ally or was it to gain American Independence?

>>132560555
"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." -- George H. W. Bush, cited in the June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter

>Korean War
Goal was to prevent South Korea from falling to the Kim family. Despite thousands of soldiers from USSR and China to do this, America won. Imagine how fucked the current situation would be if Kim Jong-Un ruled all of Korea rather than just the North.

>Bay of Pigs
A loss, very stupid invasion, probably even dumber than the Iraq War

>Vietnam War
Goal was to keep Saigon from falling. America failed. However, Vietnam is now probably America's most reliable ally in the region, so whatever

>Invasion of Grenada
Total and complete victory for the Americans

>Invasion of Panama
Noriega regime was toppled and replaced with a pro-American government to this day

>Gulf War
Kuwait was liberated from Saddam

>Intervention in Somalia
A failure

>Intervention in Haiti
Victory. Aristide was toppled.

>Bosnian War
Victory

>Kosovo War
Victory. Milosevic toppled

>War in Afghanistan
Victory. Taliban government toppled (in just a few weeks too!)

>War in Iraq
Victory. Saddam toppled.

>Libyan Intervention
Victory. Gaddafi toppled

Actually the US has not won a war since HS Truman let niggers into the infantry in 1948. They should have made them do what they did best -- dig latrines.

>>132557863
America won every major battle in Vietnam, left the South Vietnamese alone and they lost it.

>>132557863
We've stayed prosperous and largly fee and that's what matters. We need to take care and continue this.

>>132564219
Very bias opinions.

>Victory. Saddam toppled.
Ha ha. You've got to be kidding

>>132561000
America didn't lose that war. We left and the South lost.

>>132564134
War is a military goal, not a political goal. The US lost the military goal of the Vietnam War. Decades later, Vietnam may be more capitalistic, that doesn't suddenly change military defeat into some weird long term victory. This is a retarded concept you have of military victory.

>>132564615
War has ALWAYS been political. Driven by propaganda.

>>132557863
Got Trump elected.

>>132564579
Not kidding, unless you see Saddam's ghost still running things in Iraq

>>132564594
We left because we couldn't achieve victory, thus a defeat. Whatever twists of logic you want to try, we failed to achieve our objective through military means and the other side accomplished their's.

>>132564816
The Iraq was a major failure. Initiated by a false flag attack on the twin towers.

>>132561062
My great grandpa said he had to fire artillery guns horizontally into hordes of chinks

>>132557863
We won the culture war.

>>132564615
Aight im going to bed anon. Good bants. Have a good day tomorrow.

>>132564799
Ok, I am guessing you are 14 and read an article on Clausewitz today. War might be an extension of politics, but military victory is defined specifically by accomplishing those political aims through military action. We failed to do so, thus we lost the war.

We haven't fought a war since WWII.

>>132557863
Desert Storm, OEF, OIF

>>132565013
Goal of Iraq War: oust Saddam and his government

Result of Iraq War: Saddam and his government ousted

Was it fucking stupid and pointless in the long run? Yeah.

Was the occupation and later insurgency a disaster? Yeah

The goal to oust Saddam was still completed.

>>132565126
You too. Enjoyed the bants.

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>>132558056
Damn skippy.

>>132565264
The fuck? What did the US lose in any of those wars?

>>132565271
People are trying to define victory in war as political victory and separate it completely from accomplishing the military objectives.

>>132565428
He is saying those are victories

>>132565485
Winning the war is easy. Winning the peace is hard. Or do you think the South lose?

>>132565690
Yes, but the question is about winning wars, which is a military matter, winning the peace is political. France lost the Napoleonic Wars, but in many ways, won the peace thanks to Talleyrand.

>>132565485
Politically it's not like it was a disaster either, the current Iraqi government are Iranian shills and corrupt as fuck but they're still much friendlier and compilable than Saddam ever was

Honestly, if the shit after the war was actually planned out by the Bush admin, Iraq could have been in a very good place. A post-Hitler Germany was something planned by FDR since 1943. Bush's plans for post-Saddam Iraq started literally after Baghdad was taken.

>>132566055
Agreed.

The Generals were telling the Bush Administration to send 450,000 but Rumsfeld wanted to show off what a smaller force could do, so there weren't enough boots on ground to keep order and Iraq fell into disarray. Makes you wonder what could have been.

>>132557863
Did you forget Desert Storm fag.

Sent that sand nigger running home in a week.

>>132557863
The only war America "won" was against the British.

>>132557863
Australia hasn't lost a war against humans

prove me wrong

Hardmode: Vietnam wasn't our war to win or lose

>>132557863
The Cold War