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How do we deal with the Civic Nationalist problem?

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How do we deal with the Civic Nationalist problem?
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They aren't a problem, for now. Rising nationalism (i.e. interest in Western [white] values) is a good thing. The issue will inevitably resolve itself shortly. You will know when the time comes.
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>>132547637
>Palestinian Trump fan
Kek
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>>132547637
They are whiter than most of the people here
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>>132547637
>free helicopter rides for you
problem solved.
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>>132548590
kek
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Is attention whoring this common on reddit?
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>>132547637
i thought the whole point of civic nationalism was to get rid of this identity politics bullshit

in 50 years people will celebrate being german-irish-nigerian-cherokee-chinese-mexican gay jewish atheist nationalists at this point
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>>132549003
It is on the Zionald.
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>>132547637
>gay
>asian
does not compute your constantly pestered to get a wife regardless no excuses
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>>132547637
I recommend fire.
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>>132547637
>not bleaching brown women
I would eat that arab's asshole for hours, if you catch my drift.
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>>132549089
you can't expect everyone to go full fash, this is america, lots of people have mixed families nowadays. i see it all the time.
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>>132549215
"bleaching" doesn't work pal, see latin america. the brown/black genes dominate the white ones. but do what you want, that's what being american is all about.
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>>132547637
>>132547681
They are useful idiots. Allow it to continue.
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>>132547637
>>132547681
>Fascist flag
>Against civic-nationalism
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>>132547637
Just like liberals are the commies useful idiots, these civic nationalists are our useful idiots.
Also, 10/10 would racemix with bluehairgirl.
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>>132549243
The anon you're talking to is a whiny leftist, quit falling for their shit
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>>132549243
Go away, Civic Nationalist
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>>132549362
>"bleaching" doesn't work pal
Maybe you're just not white enough
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>>132547637

that blue haired half kebab is a qt
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>>132547637
What you expect? Reddit is cringy as fuck. Bunch of sheep just looking for the greenest pasture, and then bragging about how tasty the grass is.
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>>132549653
that took 3 generations of whites to accomplish

and so much for you being white if you want to toss it away

>>132549646
i'm not a civic nationalist, i think it is silly and would never work because american identity has become weak. but you'll never have white nationalism in america. nope, whites don't want it, practically no one does. i wish it were different, but that's the sad reality.
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>>132547637
>>132547681
All I see is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 votes
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>>132547637

Note, this is a Mexican larping Nazi from Arizona who posts about getting blacked all day.

Sage and go on with your day, this faggot has been stinking up PTG for weeks now. He's about as white as a pack mule.
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>>132547637
Half Palestinians get to stay
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>>132547681
The issue is this guys, what redditniggers are pretty much doing with this is congratulating minorities for doing something they were supposed to do in the first place. I'm not white but I always behave like a normal human being ought to and do you know what I get in return? I get treated like a normal person, a countryman and get to participate in society. No one puts me on the pedestal and I don't want to be, watch this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kv_z6H0bmA

This is pretty much what redditfags are doing, stop congratulating us for reading you fucking faggots
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>>132548590
This is a slide thread that has a second purpose which is meant to divide us, right?
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>>132547637
>gay christian
when will this meme end?
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>>132549511
There's nothing about Fascism that would encourage Civic Nationalism.
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>>132547637
>civic nationalism

>problem

Oh new /pol/
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>>132547637
Civic nationalists have one VERY IMPORTANT belief in common with true ethno-nationalists. Most believe in strong border control, or in immigration based exclusively on professional or academic merit. As nationalism spreads and the leftists become more and more ridiculed by mainstream society, the interests of America's white majority will get more and more traction. Even if you don't agree, you must admit they're at least less insufferable than the establishment Republicans and the libtards.
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>>132550760
Try researching an ideology before you espouse it next time.
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>>132550445
if they killed all the fucking gays, there would be almost no priests left.
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>>132547637
>Im a gay, latino, whatever the fuck, Trump supporter
>OMG the alt-right is nazis who use identity politics
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There is absolutely no argument against civic nationalism other than tired alt right maymays.

Prominent civic nationalist figures being insufferable faggots is a notanargument. They are simply attention whores who attached themselvea to a rising popular movement.
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>>132550445
Didn't your pope come out say that gays don't actually go to hell and could go to heaven? Why would expect the meme to end after that shit?
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>>132551178
I once read somewhere that something that isn't entirely right-wing is going to eventually become more and more left wing, could this be what people wary of Civic Nationalism be afraid of?
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>>132550760
fucking lol, is this really the people i post with.
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HALF PERUVIAN HALF SONIC THE HEDGEHOG HERE. WE LOVE TO MAGA TOO PEDES
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>>132547637
Ethnic nationalism is for children
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>>132547637

"DIFFERENT PEOPLE LIKE THE SAME THINGS I DO" - The Post
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>>132550947
Civic nationalism is good. But if you're get really up against the wall, white id politics are the answer, so the country can be reset and rebuilt.
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Yeah they're cringy but it's still a great sign, I wouldn't have it any other way
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>>132547637
those gayboys are pretty sexy so i'll give them a pass for their camwhoring.
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How do civic nationalists come to terms with the fact that the only reason the 1st and 2nd amendment hasn't even been taken away is because of white people.
Once whites are minorities, these 2 amendments will be fucking gone. Look at california, turned hispanic and guns are fucking gone.
Sure you may be a redpilled spic but what about the voting patterns of majority of your people?
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>>132547637
>How do we deal with the Civic Nationalist problem?

That girl is pretty though, what's there to deal with?
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>>132551765
Because hyper conservative spics exist, see Cubans.
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>>132547637
>>132547681
Anymore I need some for the cringe folder
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>>132550907
Civic nationalism is the very essence of nu/pol/ you retard.
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>>132548174
This. Ethnic nationalism will never work. Civic nationalism with ANGLO western civ as unbreakable bedrock is utopia.

Need strict discipline, corporal punishment and autistic levels of rule of law.
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>>132551963
Yes, fucking this.
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>>132551765
By being pretend nationalists and thinking the 1st and 2nd amendments are anything but memes in the first place
>implying the voting patterns of the majority of white people aren't the same, or worse
Look at the state of other majority white countries.
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>>132551963
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>>132551963
>>132551963
>Ethnic nationalism will never work
Its worked for thousands of years in europe you fucking tard
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>>132549511
>thinking fascism is only akin to ethnic nationalism

wat
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>>132552192
Europe isn't America you fucking tard
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>>132547637

Western society allows arab sluts and asian faggots to be automatically respected even if it's for le based Trump xD. These people are a symptom and product of a civilizational sickness.
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>>132549874
People don't know what they want.. It wont take long for white people to regain their identity

>White people are nice
>Until they are not
Stefan
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>>132552192
>europe working

kek
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>>132552192
Talking about America.
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>>132552113
Easily fixed by selecting for strong traits.
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>>132552192
England is the only European country that 'worked' for a long stretch of time.
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>>132547637
I can understand people wanting to avoid taboo, but this "presenting yourself according to your enemies standards" needs to get bantzed to death, or else these people will never fully let go of liberalism.
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>>132547637
you guys do realize this is why r/The_Donald exists right? It's merely a mirror for the Left. Their own sickness turned back on them.
I hope nobody here takes this seriously.
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>>132552364
>>132552306
>>132552233
>>132552176
Samefag doing some damage control, hilarious.
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>>132552238
It still works you fucking tard and racial nationalism worked in america before 1965 maybe you civnats should the history of the country you want to sell out to niggers and chinks before you open your fucking mouths
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>>132552176
>civic nationalism = racemixing

Funny how whenever someone wants to peacefully co-exist with non whites,stormfags automatically jump to "OH THIS MEANS YOU WANT JAMAL TO FUCK YOUR DAUGHTER HURRR DURRR."
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>>132547637
Oh noes, whatever shall we do about our babies being brown!
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>>132552238
>>132552316
>>132552361
America was peek when it was 90% white. It will soon fracture into balkanization.
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>>132547637
I don't mind half Palestinians like that
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>>132552316
>>132552361
>>132552396
Europe and europeans built modern civilization you fucking plebbitors
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>>132552460
Fuck your identity, especially if it's wrapped up in race (or any other of the intersectional categories).

You guys are progressives and you don't even realize it.
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>>132552482
>implying it worked before 1965

Ok, remind me again how well WW1 and 2 went for the planet, or white races as a whole.

Ethnic identity politic is the shittiest nationalist identity, and literally puts you on the same level as BLM.
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>>132547637
America is far too multicultural for ethno-nationalism to ever work here. It's pretty much just a Utopian fantasy at this point; the white Anglos who built America have become completely diluted within the population. Balkanization is a much more realistic alternative for America.

If you want your white ethnostate so badly, just move to Poland. Eastern Europe has the right idea.
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>>132550760
At least I know what my flag means
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>>132552603
Are Greeks white?
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>>132552654
Kys sodomite
>>132551725
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>>132547637
>Punching Right at Useful Idiots
>While we still face (((Them)))
OP you fucking shlomo!
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>>132552192
>bomb the continent into rubble over a pointless pissing match
>get de facto colonized by a foreign power that's only been around for 150 years
>culture cucked by the same jews you failed to wipe out

If that counts as "working" I'd rather be race-mixed.
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>>132552519
only whites are capable of small government, unfortunately.
as whites dwindle, the government becomes draconian

>>132552451
you didn't fucking read

>>132552654
racemixing does more harm than good though
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>>132552560
>can spell balkanization
>can't spell peak
fuck
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>>132552769
Are you jewish?
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>>132552519
at this point its pretty obvious they are just leftist shills trying to stem the tide of normies, "civic nationalism" being a pretty large bridge for normies to start coming over.

also, "civic nationalism" didnt exist as terminology here until a "TRS" raid a few months ago where they attacked the idea of 'patriotism', reframing it as "civic nationalism akin to race mixing and watching your kids get blacked"

extremists on both sides hate rationality.
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>>132547637
use them to hunt down anti american people who dont help make america great again.
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>>132552777
I'm also one of (((them)))
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>>132552813
>racemixing does more harm

So the Germanic peoples shouldn't exist then?
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>>132552482
It "worked" because Europe wasn't trying to be a single country, braindead faggot.
It was a bunch of separate countries constantly fighting each other.
>racial nationalism worked in america before 1965
You mean when the millions of niggers YOU dumb retards imported to America decided they wanted to be equal?
Who'd have thought that shipping in a load of foreigners to pick your crops for you because you're a lazy bastard would have consequences.
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Gotta love the Poles
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What's a pede?
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>>132552688
>false equivalence
>ad hominem
>and shaky historical references
Come back when you have some real arguments jamal
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>>132552769
I too would like to know
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>>132552876
>also, "civic nationalism" didnt exist as terminology here until a "TRS" raid a few months ago where they attacked the idea of 'patriotism', reframing it as "civic nationalism akin to race mixing and watching your kids get blacked"
Imagine being this fresh off the boat from reddit. Holy fuck just end your existence you shit spewing twat.
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>deal with

They're our own version of "useful idiots". We need them. Once we've purged the communists from American politics, then we push ethno-nationalism.
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>>132549034
Lmao this
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>>132552813
>racemixing does more harm than good though

This is just a peculiar instance of the argument against cultural appropriation.

You guys are progressives. It's embarrassing.
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>>132552808
Europe built modern civilization you fucking retard
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we invented the pandering to the minorities

stop copying us you shits!!
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>>132547637
Leave them alone. They are soft allies. We don't like leftists telling us what to believe, why should we tell them what to thibk either? Most of them are a few years from 1488 anyway. Just chill.
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>>132552876
that you enlightened centrist
both sides r dum
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>>132547637
>Gay
>Christian
Pick one and only one
>Blue Hair
>MAGA hat
Where did it go so wrong
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>>132553051
>Europe
Try England you fucking EU shilling retard
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>>132552960
>implying both world wars went well for white races

So two wars that killed a fuck ton of whites was good?
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>>132551963
Goddamn that sounds great.
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>>132547637
>waaaaaahhh, there are trump supporters that aren't blonde haired, blue eyed, 100% aryan white men who are 6'0"+ even though i'm nowhere close to at least half of those things
>waaaaaahhhh, i completely ignored president trump's inauguration speech when he said "whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots"
>waaaaaaahhh, celtics aren't white even though my president is half scottish

go fuck off to your safe space and stop doing such a great job of making the rest of us trump supporters look as stupid and low function as you, moron.
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>>132547637

They aren't a problem because they at least agree with us enough to be peaceful cohabitators. Yeah we may find them annoying but none of these mongrels are gonna go burn down a McDonald's because a nigger got himself killed or start a twitter war because a movie about white people has only one black person and that black persons role was "stereotypically positive". At the very least most of these people are pretty cool, so really the only problem they present is philosophical, not physical. Hopefully it stays that way.
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>>132548174
They are a fucking problem. When Ethnic Nationalism gave way to Civic Nationalism, it opened the door to where we are today. You seem to think people are going to evolve back up to the status of Ethnic Nationalism, but how the fuck does that even make any sense? Civic Nationalists are going to push for/be okay with demographic replacement as long as those minorities are LE BASED XD

And then you'll be in a position like the US where ethnic nationalism is a virtual impossibility because the population is so fucking mixed that the only thing that can save it is an ethnic genocide that will only ever happen in the minds of autistic Nazi LARPers on the internet.
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>>132553077
check'd and shadilay'd
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>we hate shitskins fuckers coming into our country and not conforming to our culture and traditions
>WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE SHITSKINS CONFORMING TO OUR CULTURE AND TRADITIONS?!?!?!1!1!1
Well which one is it /pol/?
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>>132547637
Why? It's civic nationalism or nothing at this point, you know it. i know it

It's either that or you can wish upon a star for something that is really unrealistic in the current year.
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>>132552654
HURR DURR MUH HORSESHOE THEORY

RACISTS R AKSHULY PROGRESSIVES
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Holy fuck the amount of reddit in this thread is disgusting.
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First thing we need to do is when you see a woman sharing pics of video of their mixed-race baby, make sure you insinuate it is ugly or bland and say things like "uh, he doesn't have your beautiful blue eyes" or "well you can see it didn't get your lovely, shiny hair". Do the reverse for white babies.
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>>132547637
>Waah! Legions of people support the same exact political goals as I do but not for the exact reasons that I want them to! Waaaaaah!
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>>132547637
Nothing wrong with Civic Nationalism. As long as you're American first and special snowflake as fuck second.
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>>132553199
>>132553014
So, are these flags like 100% ironic
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>>132553005
>he says from a jihadist flag because I fingered TRS and their forced meme

kys achmed
been here the entire time /pol/ has been and am not going anywhere
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>>132547637
> tfw no qt half-Palestinian gf with blue colored hairs
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>>132553453
Sure ya have you fucking cum guzzling twat.
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>>132553222
>being this ignorant of history
Ethnic nationalism was always an impossibility for the US because it was founded on the premise of melting pot.
People are juts being retarded and thinking "European" and "white" are ethnicities. They can't tell the difference between Germans, English, Irish, etc.
Ever wonder why Hitler was calling us mongrels three decades before nigger equality was underway?
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>>132552917
>>132552917
>>132552917
>>132552917
>It "worked" because Europe wasn't trying to be a single country, braindead faggot.
>It was a bunch of separate countries constantly fighting each other.
Thats why i differentiated between ethnic and racial nationalism>>132552917
>You mean when the millions of niggers YOU dumb retards imported to America decided they wanted to be equal?
>Who'd have thought that shipping in a load of foreigners to pick your crops for you because you're a lazy bastard would have consequences. you fucking idiot
I didnt realize a small minority in the south importing niggers constituted the whole country you fucking idiot
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>>132553119
I lean right. But extremism is for the most part retarded.
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>>132553051
lmfao Europe blew itself up. Way to be "civilized" guys. The exported all the good ones to Murika and that's why we run shit now.

Eurocucks are just mad because Murikans figured out how to get brownies and immigrants to assimilate. It's not perfect but it works a hell of a lot better than Europe.
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>>132547637
By taking the National Transhumanism red pill.
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>>132553373
Niggers, chinks, and spics will never be white and will never fit in or care about the things you do.

You're probably a nigger anyways.
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>>132547637

Cannon fodder...
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>>132553373
FUCKING THIS!

I don't care, as long as Jamal fucks my wife *LEGALLY*What don't you TRS spencer shill niggers understand about that?
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>>132553324
Going "HURR DURR" isn't a refutation.

Yes, you're pro-government top-down collectivists. Same song, different key.
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>>132552907
as far as i know, only America has that intermingling of Germanic peoples
Central Europe has been divided except strong individuals taking charge

>>132553014
is the race and culture separated in the first place...?
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>>132547637

Why do Palestinian chicks always have such rocking tits?
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>>132553515
>Ethnic nationalism was always an impossibility for the US because it was founded on the premise of melting pot.
TOP FUCKING KEK

[spoiler] don't tell him the term "melting pot" was first used to describe America in the 60s
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>>132552931
R A R E

A

R

E
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>>132547637
id pork the blue haired chick
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>>132553514
t. achmed

literally kill yourself you degenerate dune coon worshipping retard

whats the chances you were posting with a nat soc flag for the past few weeks until people started questioning why so many nazis were pushing islam hmm? Thats been a problem here for years. At least now you guys own your islamism. But you will never be an accepted part of /pol/. You are as bad as the zionists. You are not an ally. cry more
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>>132553419
Did I say something that was incompatible with it?
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>>132553515
>founded on the premise of melting pot.
>"European" and "white" are ethnicities. They can't tell the difference between Germans, English, Irish, etc.
>Hitler was calling us mongrels three decades before nigger equality was underway?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93U54gprVQA
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>>132553144
Shut up retard most western european countries helped in the construction of the modern world
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The most important thing about civic nationalists is they still dont want any more sandniggers over here. I see very anti muslim content hit the front of the donald constantly.
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>>132553515
Hitler also hated Slavs. Technically America hasn't been a truly "white" country since the 1800s. Most blacks have more of an ethnic "right" to call this country their home than any Italian or Irish who came here through Ellis Island.
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>>132551963
Honestly the biggest problem with civic nationalism is that the whites refuse to join in, once they're gone it can work but not before
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Ethnic Nationalism in america is unrealistic and unattainable you're just wasting your time
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>>132553625
Not what I was referencing, race mixing is part of human evolution and the development of racial identities in Europe.
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>>132553528
There was no racial nationalism, retard. It's a fuckin meme.

>I didnt realize a small minority in the south importing niggers constituted the whole country
They were following the creedo of the country's founding, that's why they had enough to support to fight a civil war.
>hurr hurr libertarianism don't tread on me mind ya own business partna XD
I despise you faggots.
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>>132549474
>They are useful idiots.
I am so fucking sick of hearing this. All they're doing is shifting the general consensus further and further left. They operate on leftist concepts

>>132553515
>Ethnic nationalism was always an impossibility for the US because it was founded on the premise of melting pot.
The meme of the "melting pot" didn't exist until the 1908 play by Israel Zangwill you lying kike.
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>>132550441
Good catch
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>>132553594
Do you actually think this is an argument

>HURR DURR You want entirely different things and support two completely opposite and conflicting agendas, but you both acknowledge the necessity of a centralized state so you r da same

Imagine being so one dimensional and single minded
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>>132553570
this
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>>132553753
imagine being as mad as you're right now. You got called out for spewing lies like the fork tongued sodomite redditor you're.
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>>132553625
>only America has that intermingling of Germanic peoples
Naw, Europe as a whole is racemixed. It's actually a good thing to encourage
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>>132553818
thats the point. Just because they arent full blown 1488 doesnt mean they are not allies, tools in attempting to wrestle back control of culture. They stand against islam and subversion, and are a few stepping stones away from considering racial arguments and realities.

the only people that could legitimately see these people as a threat are leftists that dont want /pol/ and conservatism spreading any more than it already has.
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>>132551963
> Autist claims autism necessary for survival
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>>132547637
>Christian
Check
>Loves America
Check
>Hates Illegals
And check

Everything else can be overlooked so long as they're not gun grabbing trannies or muslims. Although I supposed if they were any one of those three things they wouldn't be christian, anti-illegal or pro-america would they
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>>132553838
This. You have to be really retarded to make fun of civic nationalism while promoting ethic nationalism
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id fuck
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>>132553515
God, you fucking retards who think it was always a Jewish melting pot are braindead. It was always, from the very beginning, a white country for white men. It only became a melting pot in the 60's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJaGYcVFIVY

Now fuck right off.
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>>132553819
>Hitler also hated Slavs
Wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_collaborationism_with_the_Axis_powers
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>>132553807
Kill yourself, Schulz
Most western european "countries" are pathetic, feeble echoes of centuries' old glory and don't deserve to be independent.
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>>132553895
>There was no racial nationalism, retard. It's a fuckin meme.
Try actually reading up on the founders' ideology and views of race before you speak out of your ass
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Civiccucks get the rope too.
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>>132553419
>too stupid to refute the argument
>doesn't even make the attempt
>ad hominem instead like a jilted little bitch

at least THIS byproduct of incest and meth abuse knows his level in life.
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>>132553995
t. achmed posting TRS memes
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>>132553515
Ah yes, Adolph "You guys are now Honorary Aryans xD" Hitler is definitely the go-to figure for Ethnic Nationalist ideals. The man who, ironically enough, harbored Jewish genetics and didn't realize it, while calling other mongrels.

If anything, this shitfest "Melting Pot" experiment has proved that the highest level that human beings can cooperate on is in fact on the racial level. Because this is exactly where lines are now drawn in the US.
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>>132547637
Would fug the blue haired one
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While liberals are already claiming victory saying "demographics are destiny", they are missing a crucial detail: Trump's interest in White Immigration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mob-8wN6kpU

Trump wants to increase Immigration for whites while denying most of the third world if not all. He's interested in repealing the 1965 immigration act. As a result the Non-Hispanic White birth rate Will grow even more if he succeeds in this plan. The immigration of whites will probably come from Europe/Anglosphere/Southern Africa at the most. SA because Trump supported the apartheid and might want to help them out as well. This might completely reverse the demographic downfall of America if they happen to breed. The Non-Hispanic White birth rate is slowly rising and with this plan for white immigration it will only continue to grow more. With this plan, Mass Deportations, The RAISE act, Extreme Vetting and Lowered Taxes.

We will stay a white majority country for a longtime.
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>>132547637
If you think it's a problem then you are a mental midget
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>>132554077
Great so you established what everyone already knows which is that America was once a majority white country years ago. The problem is there is no real solution to reverting the population back to that demographic
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>>132554109
>Trs memes
Tf are you really about? You get caught in a lie and do nothing but sperg like the little sensitive cock wrangler you're.
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>>132553895
>there was no racial nationalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act There where laws passed to keep america white which you'll notice is a race you fucking idiot
>They were following the creedo of the country's founding, that's why they had enough to support to fight a civil war.
Lol no they wernt you fucking idiot this was intended to be a white country and all the founders and lincoln wanted to send them back to africa the first chance they got. Where the fuck in your tiny brain would you get the impression i was a libertarian
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>>132553324
>use the same language/terminology as SJWs
>ideology based entirely on identity politics
>bootlickers
>collectivist
Also, I've yet to encounter an ethnic nationalist that doesn't also support redistribution of wealth and some leftist economic policy. Really all that's different is the skin color.
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>>132554267
>white majority

Yeah your 56% is a """""""""""majority""""""""""
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>>132547637
fuck off ctr shill.
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>>132552955
Centipede. Came from the intro of those "Can't stump the trump" videos back before Trump was actively trying to stump himself. Funny enough, the channel has completely disowned Trump and gone full commie mode. Wonder how much he sold out for.
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>>132554106
I wasn't even really trying to address your argument, it was more of an observation that everyone using ancap/lolbertarian flags is a cuck

But I guess I'll humor you. Looking back at your post>>132553199 I can gather no coherent argument (it's just autistic screeching and straw men), would you care to clarify?
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>>132552769
Yes it's been confirmed.
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>>132553515
The results are in, You're retarded. America was founded as a white country, It's only nonwhite because of the Immigration act of 1965 which has flooded America with third worlders.
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>>132547637
By showing them the (((truth))). Multiculturism is unsustainable.
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>>132554103
Views about race don't equate to nationalism, bitch.
Fags that shill pan-European identity are racial nationalists for example.
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>>132553320
>by 2050, 1/2 americans will be white
>it's the only choice, goyim

thanks but no thanks you fucking kike. keep pushing us into a corner and see what happens
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>>132554085
They still helped build it you enormous retard
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>>132553929
>HURR DURR you noticed the commonalities in the two paradigms of these "totally completely opposite things" that means you think they're exactly the same!

You're arguing from a fallacious and immoral coercive collectivist paradigm. You are just as much an enemy of liberty as leftists are. You agree with them on basic premises, and the end result is the same.

Keep HURR DURRing though
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>>132554320
You will never be white.
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>>132554267
>We will stay a white majority country for a longtime.

This is all we can really hope for at this point. I wouldn't call myself a white nationalist, but I definitely want something to be done about the declining white population. Though I prefer it'd be done nonviolently and without forced deportations of people who have every right to be here.
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>>132553515
This post is closest ITT, not melting pot but a nation founded on shared ideology of liberty and natural/inalienable rights. Tradition is definitely Judeo-Christian and Protestant, but America is uniquely founded on an idea, not shared ethnicity. European countries are founded on shared ethnicities, and that's how their borders are drawn.
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>>132550760
So be honest, do you just call yourself a fascist to be edgy?
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>>132554002
>>132553848
but why would any of you tolerate the mixing of Europeans and non-Europeans..?
i mean Central and South America is a shithole of epic proportions
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>>132554296
A lie about what, faggot? Yes I am surely less reputable than a literal islamic jihadist posting proven TRS memes that were used as part of a raid here months ago to create divisions between "alt lite cucks" and the "alt right" as if anyone identifying as either arent fucking retarded as shit

kys islamic apologist faggot
people that cant accept that you cant go full ethnostate overnight and therefore chimp out at the bridges bringing people in = total brainlets
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>>132554280
There is.

It involves white people marrying third and fourth generation non-whites and successfully whiting them.

This would require people to leave their house.

Not gonna happen.
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>>132554464
Repealing the 1965 immigration act and reinstating white immigration while limiting almost the entire third world would make America whiter considering shitskin birth rates are going down here as well. With that America could become 80% white in a couple generations.
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>>132547637
Very low energy bait!
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>>132554500
I already am
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>>132553515
Thats why in america its racial aka white nationalism while in europe they embrace ethnic nationalism
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>>132554422
You're proving my point dumb fag.
>America was founded as a white country
As opposed to an English country or a German country.
Hence, melting pot.
and America was flooded with third worlders by the Atlantic Slave Trade you fucking autist.
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>>132553929
You and progressives all believe in racial segregation and identifying -- yourself and others -- primarily by race. It's not merely that you're both statists. You're both anti-individualists from the start.

Oh, sure, you'll go to battle with each other in the streets, that makes you TOTALLY OPPOSITE, but your bullshit is similarly noxious.
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>>132554267
>to increase Immigration for whites while denying most of the third world if not all.
Trump wants to bring in more European people but he hasn't stated he wants to block off the rest of the world. Get your facts straight
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>>132554377
>too stupid to do his homework
>tries to flim flam me into doing it for him

nope, use your brain, cletus.
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>>132554467
>b-b-b-but we helped, w-w-we participated :'(
Could you be a more pathetic little loser?
Why are you hiding your Belgian flag?
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>>132554616
Poor people will always breed more. You will just have poor whites instead of Blacks and Hispanics.

Repealing the Immigration act won't fix moral decay of American population.
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>>132554616
How do we get Trump to repeal this shit? Why aren't we organizing to get this shit to his attention? Fuck LBJ
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>>132553819
>Most blacks have more of an ethnic "right" to call this country their home than any Italian or Irish who came here through Ellis Island.

Kek this is so true. Potato niggers and spaghetti niggers btfo
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>>132554573
>a literal islamic jihadis
You do realize you can change your flag to many different things without adhering to what the flag stands for right? I mean you can't be this fucking mouth breathing retarded..Secondly you said TRS invented the term civic nationalist, you didn't mention anything about whatever the fuck you're spewing now. Lastly go fucking throw yourself off a bridge you underage sodomite.
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>>132553561
>be white
If they ascribe to American values, they're whiter than your knuckle dragging ass.

Civic Nationalism offers a path forward for people. Something to actually carrot the stick with. Ethnic shit is divisive and gives credence to tribal violence.

The only tribal violence I want is in defense of American Exceptionalism.
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>>132554522
My post is the only logical choice that doesn't have to do with deporting nonwhite citizens. Just bring in more white immigration and have mass deportations take place. Nonwhite birth rates are already declining. With more white immigrants and White Americans raising their birth rate. We could make America even more white in the future.

Pic related

>>132554731
The RAISE act would do that part
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>>132554707
individualism is the root of liberalism
being family-oriented is the root of conservatism

>pic somewhat related
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Drop them off in the hood for 2 hours after dark. They'll either come back redpilled or dead/fucked in the booty
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>>132554665
>As opposed to an English country or a German country.
I didn't realize those aren't white.
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>>132554320
>>use the same language/terminology as SJWs
>red lights and green light are both energy traveling through a medium at certain wavelengths, they must b da sayum color
And we both speak english, what's your point. Language is a means of communication of ideas, not the ideas itself
>>ideology based entirely on identity politics
welcome to the real world
If the Yankees play the redsox, but the redsox have no team identity, who do you think is going to win?
You can choose not to play, but you're still on the field.
>>bootlickers
>WAAAAAAHH A POWLEECE MAN GOT ME IN TWUBBLE FOR SMOKIN WEED I HATE AUTHORITY
>>collectivist
again, welcome to the real world. In a multicultural society that is fractured on racial grounds (like the US) whichever group acts as a whole is going to have a better chance of serving their interests
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>>132554500
>>132554624
Basically, given the choice between a high earning minority and a poor, unskilled white, I'd prefer the one that doesn't leech off my tax money.

Better than ethnic nationalism, I'd be fine with just removing everyone on government benefits and leaving it at that. We'd still be a majority white country by far, but only keep the people that actually contribute.
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>>132547637
Civic nationalism isn't ideal, but it's the ONLY form of nationalism that can work in a "New World country", like America. TRUE nationalism comes through a shared ancestry and bloodlines. The knowledge that your ancestors lived on this soil for thousands and thousands of years. Kikes know this and can throw it in the faces of white North Americans/South Americans/Australians etc. "You can't be a nationalist, because your ancestors were immigrants as well. Go back to Europe if you don't like it here." Or something other similar BS argument.

Again, OP's pic isn't ideal, but at least it's pragmatic and potentially workable in a country as diverse as the US. Give me a viable alternative, other than literal Balkanisation. You can't.
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>>132554754
Come back when you have an actual argument retard
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>>132554783
I think it's possible with the right amount of Loyalists of his gaining seats like Nehlen for example. I'm glad he at least supports the idea of doing this.
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>>132553051
>Europe built modern civilization you fucking retard

Fucking kill yourself you globalist cuck. Ancient Greece and Rome founded Western civilization and then their ideological descendants (Britain, France, Iberia) spread it around the world. What have G*rmans and nordcucks ever done for Europe besides destroy it time and time again? EU shilling retards such as yourself need to be purged.
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>>132554650
>he doesn't realize white nationalism is just civic nationalism prior to white people deciding to consider niggers humans
Lol based Frenchmen, such beautiful womyn and proud history! xD
Kill yourself.
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>>132554870
^this,Bring poliskis and the leftovers of the Reich and France.
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>>132554783
Lol Brainlet, that's not what the RAISE act does

http://static.politico.com/fd/af/3eebc635479892982f81bdfe3fa2/raise-act.pdf
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>>132547637

You can stop by not making memes for redditors and letting CNN dox them.

You can not crowdfund every "proud boy" every time some right wing larper comes on here and tripfags

You can keep it pure by telling redditors to leave

You can stop worshiping ecelebs and forgetting your convictions every time you see a hot chick

Most of all, you can finally admit that Trump is a Republican Zionist puppet and it's not edgy to back him anymore.
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>>132554616
Thats the way it used to be, it used to be that if you were a non-white, chances are that your great grandchildren or even your grandchildren would look nothing like you unless you really did stick to your own ethnic groups and don't assimilate. There's this girl I know that, asides from her having brown eyes, I thought she was 100% white but it turns out her great grandfather who came from Colombia was browner than me.

I live in an area with a lot of German Americans, I must be one of 5 beans in my neighborhood and the 10 block radius. When I saw her I saw what could very happen to my descendants and I have to say guys, its kind of unnerving. I guess thats the price of assimilation.
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>>132547637
divide and conquer pls go
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>>132554488
>You are just as much an enemy of liberty as leftists are
You're goddamn right. I don't jerk myself off to some abstract philosophical concept. My allegiance is to my people, and if "lee burty" is impeding that, then fuck it.
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>>132555053
>Ancient Greece and Rome founded Western civilization
>he thinks greece and rome arnt in europe
American education
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>>132555023
Come back when you're not an EU shilling little kike.
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>>132547637
Force them to spend a summer living in the bad part of a nogified midwestern US city like St. Louis or Detroit.
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>>132555151
>my people

You mean Americans?
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>>132554870
The raise act wants to cut down the total immigration number not a select race. You still face the problem that whites are having less and less kids while minorities are supporting their 14 year old's second baby.
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>>132554861
You do realise that someone that would post under an islamic flag obviously has some sort of relationship with the ideology, even if it only extends to using it provocatively, right? And if it is just a provocation, then why would anything they are saying hold any weight- as their existence is merely an act of provocation?

>you said TRS invented the term civic nationalist
wrong retard
I said they introduced it here into the lexicon a few months ago as part of a raid to attack the notion of 'patriotism' because they are a bunch of literal statist fascists

>uses murdoch and murdoch civic cuck meme as a means to strengthen his argument

kek, you're pathetic
btw m&m are obvious shills ;)
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>>132547637
wtf i hate nonwhite nonstraight noncis nonmale "people" now
reeee minormities get out
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>>132555214
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>>132555057
>he doesnt understand the primordialist conception of nationalism
Jesus all these retarded civnats with no argument no wonder your ideology is joke
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>>132549874
> whites don't want it

Yeah, okay. That's why the term "white flight" exists, right?

Whites, by and large, prefer to live around other whites.
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you will be assimilated into the hordes of brown people.

>>132554464
I'm sure any day now people will wake up and and do a political 180° turn, please. Look at Paris, it's a arab infested shithole and even after all the terror attacks and riots the people still aren't awake.
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>>132547637
i want 2 fuck that pally stone thrower
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>>132555151
Because your conception of race absolutely is an abstraction, and you're absolutely jerking yourself off to it, since it's utopian (i.e. impossible) bullshit.
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>>132554751
>makes a series of rambling obnoxious posts that mean nothing
>"hey, could you clarify what argument you're trying to make"
>lel fuck off no spoonfeeding lelele

OH NO what ever will I do. my whole life is relying on this discussion with you!
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>>132555175
Come back when you can do more than smash semi coherent response on a keyboard
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>>132555216
Plus, RAISE act would INCREASE Asian immigration vis-a-vis percentagewise Hispanic due to elimination of diversity per-country quotas, see my post above for a link to the bill.

>Eliminate Outdated Diversity Visa Lottery. The Diversity Lottery is plagued with fraud, advances no
economic or humanitarian interest, and does not even deliver the diversity of its namesake. The RAISE
Act would eliminate the 50,000 visas arbitrarily allocated to this lottery.
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>>132554616
>Repealing the 1965 immigration act
That's never going to happen because you're going to dems and republicans crying about how its racists to exclude parts of the world. the most you can do is lower the number we take in every year.
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>>132555394
>Race isn't real
>race is not biological, it's a social construct

Is that what you're trying to say?
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>>132555306
I've never heard a libertarian say that. On the contrary, they're constantly bemoaning the gradual rending of it.
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>>132555241
>>tldr you are a summerfag who came here yesterday
Now piss off back to whatever civcuck hole you crawled out of.

>>132555001
You really don't know what you're talking about. I suggest lurking moar.
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>>132555327
>he doesnt understand that the development of technologies like sailing and the resulting interactions between more and more distant civilizations which led to the social mechanic of ethnicity nullifies primordialism
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>>132555106
I know how you feel buddy, America was built from the ground up by Europeans and they made it become the biggest superpower. Assimilation back in the day meant if you were going to come from a more brown country, Chances are your bloodline would completely be bleached.

>>132555419
Diversity Visa Lottery isn't Pro-European at all, So I'm fine with that.

>>132555434
With the right amount of Loyalists getting positions it very well could. The RAISE act would limit the amount coming here. While other bills would have to do the European /Anglo part.
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>>132555413
>Schulz's isn't literate enough in the English language to have intelligent conversation with actual Western civilizations
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>>132555434
> Crying about how reinstating racial quotas is racist

Well no shit, that's the definition
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>>132555539
Historically, Irish and Italians were considered nonwhite by most Americans. If it's entirely biological and not socially influenced at all, why call them white now? Did something change in their genes that turned them white?
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>>132552482
This.
How fucking hard is it to realize mlk jr was an agent provacateur and communist plant even attending a college known for training social engineers that lead "grass roots" style movements with the intent of weakening the structures in place to cause disolution.
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You nazi larpers are the problem, cant agree on 1 thing.
>Want to kick out 100 million people, which is impossible (in b4 muh gas)

For god sakes we won, lighten up not everything is a white vs ____.

How about fixing what we got, kicking out illegals, stop being the world police......
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>>132555567
Kek, will never get tired of you queers scrapping the bottom of the barrel and spurting out

"YEAH WELL YOUR A NEWFAG"

translation: you dont have an argument yet are sufficiently triggered to the point that you want to cause me some form of anguish or discomfort, so you attack my credibility as a poster here rather than the argument

KEK

gb2TRS
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>>132551121
>implying that's at all in any way shape or form a bad thing
there wouldnt be any rabbis or imams either
looks like i found the cure for the abrahamic cancer
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>>132555419
>above for a link to the bill.
I read the bill and the bill intends to change how we view the economic benefit we would receive from them. It basically intends to promote long term stability compared to short term stability. so yeah you would cut out a lot of spics but you would also cut out a lot of low income whites from Europe.

>50,000 visas
A small number compared to how many we take in every year legally
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>>132555539
>not 'real'
>= social construct!

And I'm the one being one-dimensional?

Racial delineators are arbitrarily drawn. It's an abstraction. That doesn't mean it's not 'real.' There are broad patterns that have import. But as part of your ideological program? Yeah, that's socially constructed bullshit.
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>>132555567
I've been here since 2012, stormfags are the ones who took over this board.
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>>132555897
>attack my credibility
You have none to attack. I can see through your pathetic weasel worded posts you aren't from here.
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>>132547637
Not a problem at all. Why would people be willing to share your values as a problem. These are the people you want to have in your country.
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>>132555810
>hundreds of years ago X
Oh shit! historically people thought the Earth was the center of the universe. SCIENCE BTFO
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>>132555364
actually we have seen the growth of right wing populist parties in europe that would've gotten next to nothing 10 years ago. don't count them out.

america on the other hand is gonna be a mixed nation, not much can be done about that, people care more about ideas here than anything. how we plan on "assimilating" people without a dominant group is beyond me, but give it your best. how much luck are white mexicans having in "assimilating" the brown majority? why aren't those mestizos acting like spaniards? sooner or later, you realize that civic nationalism is asking too much from nature.
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>>132547637
they're not the immediate problem here
at best you can redpill them slowly on what's
happening...
I'd rather deal with the left for now

as I always say I'll take civic nationalism over leftism for now...
right now we have globalism to deal with
which is a much deadlier problem
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>>132555164
>reading comprehension

You referred to "Europe" as if somehow every single country within the continent was equal. Cultures aren't equal, and this includes white cultures as well. Italian culture, for example, is infinitely superior to Swedish culture. Maybe if you weren't a brain dead Arab, you wouldn't have a fool of yourself.
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>>132555669
>While other bills would have to do the European /Anglo part.
Which would never pass when we got republicans too scared to support minor policies. You're taking giant leaps without checking to see if you have a bridge to leap on first.
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>>132555874
(((Shill)))
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>>132547637

Remind them that Richard Spencer is, in fact, our guy.
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>>132556011
t. a eurofag defending an islamist calling me a newfag and outsider because I highlighted that TRS itself is a foreign community that attempts acts of subversion and raids here

KEK

>>132556006
remember when "stormfag" was just as common an insult as "JIDF"? And still we heralded white nationalism.
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>>132556024
Why don't they go make some mud shithole better? What are these nonwhites doing in my country? They are here to leech off the productivity of my people and disenfranchise us in our home.
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>>132556074
What does science today say about race? That people of different races can't exist together, so we must have distinct ethnostates, in particular to save the so-called "white race"? Wow, is there anything science can't tell us?!
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>>132555951
>>132556217

Asian immigration is also pretty bad considering how much they scam people (I.E Australia and Canada)

I personally think Trump wants our immigration system to take more whites in like how it did Pre-1965. The only problem is, Neocons and Dems will try everything they can to stop it from succeeding because they know they're losing power. The More and More nationalists entering into power, The likely it's bound to happen overall.
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we need to build up any nationalism before
we start purity spiraling...
if you go straight to ethnic nationalism
we'll be outnumbered
many potential allies are heading in the
right direction... the wind is at our backs
nice division thread, though
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>>132553260
Because they realized it's an easy way to get attention from white cuck alt-liters for doing what should be expected of them in the first place.
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>>132556217
Not only that but America's immigration policy is balls to wall retarded and nobody's so much as advanced a bill in the last 8 years that passed which could address it. Immigration has been a third rail and people love citing bills, but in all likelihood they won't pass and that's the truth. You cannot get buy in from enough disparate parties, CoC, Bannonites, Bloombergites, Sanders-ites, etc.
>>132556108
The true Left is Anti-globalization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_1_THlKegI
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>>132556074
So if there is an overarching "white culture",when did it form? Why do Romans, who built an Empire and had incredible advancements in culture and technology, and Swedes, who lived in huts raping and murdering for hundreds of years suddenly all fall into the same equal culture?
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>>132556006
It's almost like people stopped believing in cuckbertarianism.
>>132556304
Yeah I get it you lick windows and wear velcro shoes. civic nationalists are a fucking cancer and the only time it gets pushed here is by reddit.
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>>132556423
I've yet to come across this
"true left" fighting against
globalist forces
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>>132556217
Gradual change is not going to be an option for us. Some drastic action will have to be taken for the GOP, the de facto white party, to be able to elect a President again in 4 or 8 years, and it's not acceptable for that action to be pandering to shitskin voters.
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>>132556566
>stopped believing in cuckbertarianism

"It's OK if I get taxed and my income gets used to benefit other people, as long as they're also white"
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>>132556566
t. some euro cuck defending an islamist

you are fucking cancer, you are a brainlet that doesnt understand that white society cannot turn racial overnight considering the GENERATIONS AND DECADES of indoctrination and propaganda
you're just adding fuel to the anti white fire, and attacking people that are reaching out to pull people over to "our" side because they arent 1488 larp fags

you're an idiot at best
an anti white subversive at worst

either way
cry more about the fact you cant shill your BS here
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>>132556624
Sanders was against Open-Borders
True left pushed Hillary to disavow H1-Bs
SPLC came out against H1-Bs
The Left was anti-TPP before Trump me-too'd his way to the nomination, see Sherrod Brown
True Left was against TARP and other globalist bailouts
True Left, e.g. Sanders et. al pushed for Single Payer before Trump started pushing for Single Payer
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>>132556624
They're the ones breaking Starbucks windows.

They're the ones who support protectionism and government works projects.
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>>132556810
This,

A repeal of our current immigration act is bound to happen with the rise of nationalism in Both America and Europe. The GOP will not be the same cucked boomer party as it is right now in 4-12 years.
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>>132556360
>(I.E Australia and Canada)
Just ban the Chinese all together. They really messed up the housing prices in Canada.

>Trump wants our immigration system to take more whites in like how it did Pre-1965.
You can tell he does but its a hard thing to do with the people hes up against. I hope he can get stuff done but we got a long way ahead of us.
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>>132553557
The only modern-day equivalent of transhumanism is good old-fashioned eugenics. AKA only whites are allowed to breed. The big question is, what's the cutoff? There are many who are blonde, blue-eyed and white but far from pure-blooded Aryan.
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>>132556854
Someone would like to HURR DURR you.
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>>132552931
Hehe you thought you could go under the radar, you thought wrong
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>>132557018
Why try to save the GOP?
Revive the Federalist Party.
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>>132556843
>white society cannot turn racial overnight considering the GENERATIONS AND DECADES of indoctrination and propaganda
It will have to. Time is not on our side.
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>>132557053
Ah, eugenics, a classic tool of the progressive.

But no, these similarities are just coincidences. Y'all are COMPLETE OPPOSITES!
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>Civic Nationalists will defend this
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>>132556105
>america on the other hand is gonna be a mixed nation, not much can be done about that, people care more about ideas here than anything.

we agree on that at least.

Those of you who are serious about fixing the problems in western society will eventually have to become civic nationalists.
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>>132556347
>What does science today say about race?
Are you referring to science or (((SCIENCEâ„¢)))

Differences in genetics between different races is linked to intelligence, time preference, impulse control, violence, disease, et cetera
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>>132557057
What did he mean by this
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>>132556423
>but in all likelihood they won't pass and that's the truth.
Sadly it is. Its not something we can make happen in the next 3 years but we can start taking the right steps for it now.
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>>132557031
Exactly, I personally think he can do it. But it's going to take a lot of balls and dignity to succeed. Trump was right about China being scummy as fuck.

>>132557163
That can work too, A revival of one of our older parties could benefit the nationalist uprising.
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>>132557053
>blonde, blue eyed

Barbarians who did nothing but rape, steal, and kill for centuries while other whites were laying the foundations of modern civilization
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>>132557278
>Those of you who are serious about fixing the problems in western society will eventually have to become civic nationalists.
nah, if western society becomes brown and whites die out i literally hope this rock explodes.
Also, if it comes down to it i would rath- nevermind, FBI ;)
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>>132547637
i'll take one for the team and breed the blue haired half palestinian slut.
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>>132556843
tldr
>>132556819
Like I said lurk moar
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>>132547637
Alt-lite is not a threat to the Alt-Right. They are recruitment ground.

>>132553903
Redpilled people will not turn more left.
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>>132556810
>Gradual change is not going to be an option for us.
its the only realistic thing that can be done. You're not going to see a dramatic change in our immigration policy regarding race any time soon. I will say that we are closer to cutting off the amount of people we bring in and i'm glad about that.
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>>132557285
The same science also shows marked differences in intelligence, impulse control, and violent behavior among different ethnicities of white people.
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>>132547637
>>132553222
>accept those who are currently here, nobody is going full 1488, it's wrong and it wouldnt work. >tighter immigration controls so that the number of non-europeans coming into our countries is kept to a minimum.
>greater emphasis on teaching history to our children since it is a lack of historical knowledge and understanding of how far we have come and what we have achieved that makes people forget the importance of culture and heritage
>also just a general uncuckening of the school education system
>stop fucking up/going to war with other peoples countries since these wars only benefit elites and globalists
>introduce some more socialist economic policies to keep the lefts influence to a minimum since their stance on economic issues allows them to accumulate a lot of public support

these are things i think europe needs. as for america, i fear you have had your lot. i dont see how things will change from your current situation. pretty sure you guys will have some sort of major conflict in the near future but at least you will serve as a lesson as to what happens when you recklessly force a country to change so drastically in such a short space of time

>>132552537
i have no problem with having a certain amount of non-europeans into europe i just dont want us to become a minority. i dont understand why that is such a bad thing.

i would say the same thing about africa or asia
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>>132547637
Turn them from useful idiots into soldiers of the White Race.

It will come in time, remember when we were all lmao libertarians?
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>>132557196
No. There are people with more foresight that will not allow you to sabotage the rest of us with such myopic thinking. Hence the never ending infighting when we should be talking about how to fix things rationally, without putting all our eggs into one basket of "survival through force" and waiting for a day where we are a minority, and those that are wiling to finally act, a minority of a minority.
I understand the counterproductive feel of enabling non whites, but we must win them over so we can use them - lest they turn into the nail in our coffin
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>>132557285
Oh really? They've found causal links?

Of course there are genetic differences. They don't imply the broad societal prescriptions and proscriptions you have in mind, and they're certainly not deterministic. Your ideology is on some pretty flimsy 'scientific' ground, there, especially when up against the actual empirical facts of history.
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>>132551178
Actually, retard, its because "civic nationalism" is just a new word for "racial diversity"
>>
>>132557163
Different parties might be useful if/when the Democrats are destroyed, but probably not before then.

>>132557203
>Ah, eugenics, a classic tool of the progressive.
There is nothing wrong with eugenics.
>>
>>132557586
>Redpilled people
That's the fucking point. They aren't.
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>>132547637
I'd preffer to hang out with those folks rather than the average blue pilled cross board poster from arcanine.
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>>132557053
>modern-day
Just wait another ~10-20 years. It won't be long before human genetic engineering is possible.
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>>132557640
>implying I think all white people have 150 IQs
What are averages, retard
Do you know what a bell curve is?
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>>132557681
this... we need to have allies
even if they're not ideologically
identical... together we can actually push
a positive agenda for all who oppose the
left.... separated we'll be picked off separately

purity spiraling and bickering is the biggest obstacle we all currently face
>>
>>132555400
>being THIS desperate for a response from his superior

here's your reply, inbred.
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>>132557908
Who cares, they open the gate
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>>132552537
There are more differences between races than skin color you retard. Not to mention nigger babies are ugly as fuck.
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>>132557361
It was preordained

>>132557889
>Democrats
You mean those Jeffersonian Democrat-Republican rascals? Death to them.
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>>132557686
>they've found causal links?
Yes, actually. Between intelligence and impulse control/time preference, between MOAO and violence, and between testosterone and intelligence
read a book
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>>132557801
>>132557999

we should be memeing "patrotism" as a down low appeal to white society
heralding everything about white society of the past without explicitly mentioning race - use the stupidity of the masses to usher in a move towards the -

I just realised this is essentially what trump did - created a push towards traditionalism, towards the values and identity that created the nation and fostered it throughout the past (white society)
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>>132557988
And averages are completely different between Italians, slavs, greeks, swedes, etc.

Serbs, as a group, have an average IQ only 4 points higher than blacks in the USA. Do they get a pass just because they happen to be white, or are they put in the same boat as the blacks?
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>>132553077
LMAO
>We don't like when the left gets their way, so why should we ever get our way?
>>
>>132558070
I mean, yes, I would like a response in which you explain the argument you are trying to make. I was looking forward to a rational discussion with you, but if you want to be atni-intellectual, that's your loss
>>
>>132558098
>Who cares, they open the gate
Except they don't. They actively steer everyone from the real right by marginalizing them as "stormweenies" or "TRS" while incrementally spoonfeeding marxist ideas.
>>
>>132557908
Thing is. Alt-lite people are people who have been exposed to the Jewish question & other redpill information they choose to ignore.

In all the videos they watch they are exposed to it. In everything they consume. Don't worry about it bro. It's just a soft-core pretend it's not real kinda version of us.
>>
>>132554077

This has been a brown nation since before Columbus buddy. but we all can share. deal w it.
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>>132558370
>They actively steer everyone from the real right by marginalizing them as "stormweenies" or "TRS" while incrementally spoonfeeding marxist ideas.

Trust me dude, every alt-lite person has been exposed to redpill info 1000 times over & chose to pretend it's not real, even though they know it's true. It's just a public persona.
>>
>>132554077
Try to read next time, faggot
Your white identity meme is retarded and the only people who follow it are larping neonazi pussies who are too dumb to comprehend national socialism
>>
>>132558266
exactly...
I'm actually seeing more of a push for
traditionalism all around me,
more consciousness of race
and our enemies influence...

it's definitely a start
we're taking steps in the right direction as
a whole
>>
>>132553515
>founded on the premise of melting pot.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHAHAHAH

OUR FUCKING IMMIGRATION POLICY FOR THE FIRST 100 YEARS OF OUR COUNTRY WAS THAT ONLY "WHITES OF UPSTANDING CHARACTER" WERE ALLOWED IN YOU MOTHER FUCKING RETARD
THE MELTING POT MEME STARTED IN EARLY 1900S FROM A PLAY WRITTEN BY A JEW
>>
>>132558304
>this level of nihilism
No shit, the more narrow the categories that you look at, the more you're going to find differences between these so-called groups
>adult white males that are 5'4'' with brown hair, autism, and that prefer sweet foods to salty have a different average IQ that teenage females between 5'6'' and 5'8'' with red hair with birthdays in the months of january or october
>>
>>132558631
>He's a retarded stormfag who thinks all whites are equal
:^)
At least you have the balls to use the right flag
>>
>>132547637
Red Pill them and the ones that won't swallow are just as bad as leftists
>>
>>132557634
Of course everything can't be done tomorrow, but we don't have enough time to do the long march through the institutions.

>>132557681
>I understand the counterproductive feel of enabling non whites, but we must win them over so we can use them - lest they turn into the nail in our coffin
Encouraging them to see themselves as different from us is good, integrating and telling them to call themselves American is not.

>There are people with more foresight that will not allow you to sabotage the rest of us with such myopic thinking.
Okay, what is your long-term plan for reestablishing white rule in the US and reducing the number of nonwhites?
>>
>>132558585
hmm, good point, shlomo
>>
>>132558756
You didn't answer the question. Do european ethnicities with IQs comparable to blacks get a pass just because they happen to be white?
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>>132558827
some will take longer than others
have faith, brother...
people are changing.
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>this thread
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>>132559029
>get a pass
with what? genocide
>>
>>132558140
It doesn't particularly matter which major party falls first, but one will have to in order to make room.
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>>132558370
They get lumped in with us whether they want to or not though.

It's an asset, and they are no threat to us in any way. Our ideology is the logical conclusion of theirs if that makes sense.

They steer away from the topic of race realism & the Jewish question because they are uncomfortable with them, not because they don't know it's true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylf15pfiPXU
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>>132559029
we don't have numbers to
start dick measuring amongst the white race.
honestly... it's not the time
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>>132558984
I know
now
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>>132559134
Whatever you believe should be done with nonwhites in your ideal society, whether that's genocide, deportation, or banning immigration. Basically,when deciding who gets to enter the country, do you let low IQ European groups in or not?
>>
>>132558370
No one is innocent
Both sides attack each other
and for no good reason beyond "you're not/too extremist"

>>132558614
guess its an ongoing process we're all in the midst of
the main point I would like to leave is there is too much infighting
earlier /pol/ was and continues to be so effective because we are a collection of different politically minded people with common ground - an enemy in globalism

the entire "alt right" charade is a mainstream media creation meant to result in threads like this - infighting where there is "no true scottsman"

yes alt lite are cucks
but they are infinitely better than leftist retards that wont even consider anything outside of their bubble and have potential, along with are working against leftist sustained globalism

>>132558949
I am not some political analyst or genius m8 but I can recognise that turning genocidal or violent would be playing into the hands of numerous globalist governments that for all intents and purposes represent a non white contingent ie you will be opening the door to any number of armed forces coming in to protect "minorities"

anyway I am going to take a shit and get back to 'work'

most rational idea I've come across: remove the welfare state
the immigration crisis is fuelled mostly by this
then we can get back to the issue of white births
>>
>>132547637
Nice try shareblue nigger. Sage.
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>>132553529
>Wanting to be with your own race
>Knowing that races are more than a skin color
>Somehow that's Extremism
>>132555053
The Jewish Indoctrination worked wonders on you. You don't even know what a ethnic group is, not to mention race.
>>
>>132559214
if one falls the other will, they're the same thing.
Remember, Federalists don't play by that bipartisan crap. If they lead the revolution it'll mean a complete restructuring of our government process.
Hopefully to the elective monarchy that old Alex Ham originally wanted
>>
>>132559614
>being a facetious retard
>thinking you are actually helping by promoting infighting because of varying degrees of essentially compatible ideology

brainlet
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>>132559237
>Our ideology is the logical conclusion of theirs
But that's wrong. The basis of their ideology, namely that all people are equal, is a logical antecedent of communism. Ethnic nationalism does not posit that people are equal, thus it shares no roots with and is not a step on the path from civic nationalism.
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>>132559259
Ok, fair. But as a personal belief, would you consider extremely low IQ whites, such as slavs, to be "useful idiots", or full equals to more capable ethnicities?
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>>132559614
Don't try to argue with r/The_Donald with facts, they'll just accuse you of working for ShareBlue or CorrectTheRecord
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>>132559524
exactly... I'm having trouble
determining whether this infighting
is genuine or a concocted ploy
crafted by those who wish to see
us wiped out..
surely those of us who honestly want this
see what's happening, and the contrived
redundant nature of this bickering..
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