歲 萬 國 港 香 大

DLLM I am so embarrassed right now.

>>132500192
You and what army?

>>132500675
lol

>>132500839
An army that holds the Mandate of Heaven and never adheres to communism nor neo-liberalism, or any doublespeak-infected foreign ideologies.

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>tfw china will chip away at your independence bit by bit until nothing's left of it
I don't think I can take this much longer, chaps.

>>132501184
Sounds utterly mystical. Too bad your Eastern philosophies are powerless in the face of Western materialist doctrines.

兵者,國之大事,死生之地,存亡之道,不可不察也。

>>132500192
whats up with that crescent moon on the flag?

>>132501456
Absolutely, but alas, "materialism" has deformed into corruption. Combined with northern commies, the Cold War will soon turn hot.

>>132501184
Why would an English colony that isn't even it's own country hold the Mandate instead of the actual Chinese government in Taiwan?

>>132501383
It's gonna be like slowly boiling a frog senpai. You guys are fucked.

>>132501584
I don't know buddy but I wouldn't start worrying until there's a little star next to it

Miss me yet?

>>132501584
A symbolism that represents the last Chinese Empire 大明 before overrun by Ching nomads. 日Sun and 月Moon actually.

>>132501456
And your doctrines are powerless before the Talmud.

>>132501798
As I've heard, most of the people from Taiwan detest the ROC government. They seem to want a Republic of Taiwan rather than a "Republic of China".

Hongkong is in the continental China, but it's the only place not to be overrun by commies during 1960s and 1970s, meaning no Soviet pollution. Mao is hated by everyone here.

>>132502064
I'd rather be in the middle than on the bottom desu.

>>132501916
I wish Black Sabbath could play here.

上善若水。水善利萬物而不爭,處衆人之所惡,故幾於道。居善地,心善淵,與善仁,言善信,正善治,事善能,動善時。夫唯不爭,故無尤。

歲 萬 國 港 香 大

>>132500192
>hong kong has a european coat of arms with local symbolism
That's super cool

>>132501798
Back then the UK goverment also jokingly called Hongkong "the Republic of Hongkong"

There was also a local incident in which a commie council member held a self-made card that reads "People's Republic of Hongkong".

>>132502691

Fuck off with that Taoist hippy talk.

>>132502963
This is not the flag of the British years though, it's modified from it.
A local newspaper even held a national flag design competition awhile ago.

>>132503199
Emm. What's wrong with it? Not that the Taoists have ever consider themselves hippies anyway.
The earliest Taoists did carry out one of the biggest rebellion against the second Chinese Empire.

故兵以詐立,以利動,以分合為變者也,故其疾如風,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不動如山,難知如陰,動如雷霆。掠鄉分眾,廓地分利,懸權而動,先知迂直之計者勝,此軍爭之法也。

You guys and Taiwan are fucked. Get out while you can.

>>132504517
No point to do so. Most of us don't have the money to emigrate. Most of the money goes to the commies and the megacorps. Plus, even if we do, the rest of the world is already filled with either commies or barbarians worse than commies. The whole world is in deep trouble since 1949.

>>132500192
Who do you advocate the conquest of?

>>132504517
The two points above are not even the most important.
I'd rather sit here and watch North Korea nuke the PRC capital.

>>132505254
I'm more for friendly confederacies. A brute unification always messed things up.

>>132505601
How'd the 20th celebration go? From the news I read it sounded like far smaller protests than usual.

又有黑人,虎首鳥足,兩手持蛇,方啗之。

>>132506215
The "protests" are yearly held by "democrats" who collaborate with both the PRC and the US. Therefore no real revolutionaries would join them.

The "celebration" sounds good, but to us it's a totally fucked-up parade for the commies. The whole of Hongkong was paralyzed just to welcome a president of northern commies.

How do we save Hong Kong? I don't want it to be lost to history

>>132506693
So what's the solution?
You can't take on the PRC and unlike the Taiwanese you don't have forreign ethnic lobbies to guarantee things like the Taiwan relations act.

>>132506215
What happened in 2014 was partly an accident, because the controlled opposition lost control of the mass. This is also why they never dare to mention Mongkok and Tsim Sha Tsui. Their spies' tactics failed.

>>132506914
America should do something I feel like the US government doesn't even know Hong Kong exists

>>132500192
How is the software engineer market there ... ? I feel like if you do not work for an international bank its not worth it.

>>132506914
Hongkong is a bit different. There's this "US-Hongkong Policy". The US considers Hongkong as a separate country from the PRC. Plus, HK dollars are basically US dollars. 1HKD=7.8USD.
Any of these two change, economies collapse, and at the same time the PRC loses the only reliable stock market that is right in front of them.

>>132500192
Is Hong Cock as good as people are saying?

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>>132501383
Don't worry, we can sink together.

>>132506766
I wouldn't easily say any military action, because the recent news on east Asia are outright crazy. North Korea, yes. Vietnam, South Korea and India have strange moves as well. They say Indian armies are trespassing the PRC territory, but the PRC did nothing but protesting, just like when they were bombed by Myanmar's fighter planes.

>>132507329
True but considering Hillary was considering selling out Taiwan, our China, expecting the US to care about Hong Kong during China's ascent seems unrealistic. China can maintain your market while shutting down certain rights like freedom of speech or assembly after 2047. Or before if they feel like it.

Hong Kong got screwed up exactly 20 years ago. It should have become an independent republic, not a Beijing colony. The British carved out a jewel, China swallowed it. Enjoy CCTV's pathetic New year gala show and learn Mandarin.

>>132507322
Don't know much about this, sorry. One thing is well known locally though - high workload, low wage. Or high tech, low life?

>>132506988
i believe you fags should stop with the hong-kexit (man, there's no way to make this sound nice)
1. brexit ain't looking too hot right now
2. UK never intended for you to leave, but instead as a weapon to make china as un-commielike as possible (you guys are failing so hard right now, thatcher is spinning in her grave)
3. survival of HK is so linked to china, food, water, electricity, ... such that an exit is damn near impossible without so annexing at least canton
4. no mainland immigration will get near zero support from the world right now considering everywhere is getting immensely pozzed, so you'll have to work with that

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redpill me on hong kong, chinabros

>>132507954
Not impossible. But to me it's more likely that the PRC is blocking itself from the world. VPN is banned as I heard. It was the same day of the "celebration day".

PS. this "celebration day" is also the chosen founding date of the CCP. It's not the actual founding date

>>132500192
How do I move to your territory?

>>132508471
soulless chinks want to ruin it like they did their own country.

>>132508924
China has historically been fine with blocking itself from the rest of the world, if they can maintain harmony at only a small economic growth loss I doubt the upper echelons of the CCP would care.
If only the engineers who are stealing western designs had access to western internet I bet they wouldn't care

>>132508305
To simply put, there are too fucking many spies here selling out each other.
But,
1. Brexit suddenly matters here?
2. Thactcher sucks
3. Most of the imported food in Hongkong are not from the PRC, it's from the rest of the world.
We have our own water supply. Meanwhile the water the PRC sells is ridiculously expensive, because well, they need money to cover their own debt.
Well, those electricity companies are all HK companies.
4. Ehh... what?

Hongkong commies and PRC commies aren't even one single faction. They fuck each other up all the time, along with the local megacorps.

>>132509862
Hong Kong isn't China Socialism, it's not even China, it's Hong Kong, only controlled by China to tax it, to see experimental capitalism and to build some Communistic benefits to start people up.

>>132509581
Chinese isolationism is rather recent, only beginning in around the 14th-15th century. I wouldn't say the empires did it fine as lots of coastal people were forced to become pirates. It also led to stagnation of naval technologies.

The top officials, scientists may have access. The problem is, it's much harder to take freedom away than to maintain a totalitarian tyranny. The PRC can end up worse than the USSR. At least the Soviet debts didn't take up to more than 250% of it's own GDP.

>>132510824
Debt to who? Socialism doesn't has debt to foreigners. Btw debt in capitalism doesn't needs to be returned, but it means you do what debt owners want you to do in certain things. I don't think USA wants to repay debt, neither people want USA to repay them, they want to continue to hold USA's by leash and they have their people in US government to make sure USA never repays debt.

>>132510824
The great firewall seems to be doing fine so far, couple it with a new version of the green youth dam escort, and it seems like freedom can be removed fairly quickly. I meant more the general mentality of the middle kingdom, of how its innately better and can ignore the foreigners.
I don't think it would end up worse than the USSR, if nothing you people tend have healthier diets, and the workers seems to be harder working. It may not be optimally efficient, but slave power can do a lot. The CCP seems more interested in big projects rather than commercial goods like the USSR. Some are cool though like the mini Paris

>>132511453
Soviet Union ended because they allowed Soros to establish free trade companies in Poland and elsewhere and because politicians in Soviet Union were replaced by more democratic ones. Sure way to fail is to become democratic, either fail by refugees, by debt, by economy or by degeneracy, democracy/freedom is the way to accomplish this.

>>132500192
>DLLM
DLLM

>>132511286
Interesting.
Those are mostly from corporations, both private and public. There's this practice: borrow lots of money from banks (some of them are even HK banks), so they have capital for construction projects or salary or even to pay the old debts. If they don't do this, the workers would lose their jobs, because there's an excess capacity for long time in heavy industries like steel production.

>>132511939
:)

>>132512190
National debt = ownership over American industry/government by non-paper defined people. It's a more secret ownership, since direct ownership might by on another person's name, but because they hold debt they can ask favors. Debt is many times not even in money, it's in favors, they just express it in money how much of it is in ex-deficit or value. For example a sheik could give money to USA, not because they need it, because they made a deal, since that's how deep state works, they don't need to lack money, they just conquer economy. And then sheiks tell USA when to jump and when not in certain things.

>>132512190
Wait, not public. Those are CCP-owned.

>>132512657
There's been strong rumours that another stock+property market crash will hit Hongkong this or next year.
Most of us hate Soros since 1997.

>>132500192
I hate to say it but you guys are overrun by the manchus. Gg HK it was good while it lasted.

>>132513005
Why would the property market crash? Mainlanders are buying everything they can get their hands on.Stocks are more varied, but it seems stable, and gthe west which is the only region could induce that fall, seems uninterested in Hong Kong's politics.

>>132513005
The question is how much are Chinese stocks tied to American stocks. The whole reason why Mussolini and Hitler nationalized economy is for them not be affected by global financial crisis. So how much does China own the money pipes will determine how far the crisis will spread, maybe it won't. So who decided that crisis and stocks need to be lowered anyway? Always some people, it's not automatic. When Brazil had a stock drops there was phone call to American owned stock exchanges to freeze stocks trade, that lowered it, they can do it any minute, but they done it because Brazil had political corruption, that was punishment. People often think crashes happen like automatically like a living organism, not true.

>>132500192
Finally someone from China.

Answer me this, are all Chinese people actually 1 person/mind?

>>132514001
What do you mean?

>>132514001
>someone from china
>thread is about hong kong

And they say Amerilards are stupid...

>>132513524
Hongkong stock market now feature a lot of PRC stocks. You know, the kind that are not the same as being in the Shanghai stock market. Few days ago, quite a number of PRC stocks went like -90%. And they just announced that people can buy PRC bonds here.

>>132513447
In Hongkong, there's a very popular urban legend - every ten years the market would crash(1987, 1997, 2007/08). The next one is extremely close.

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>>132508471
well long story short, a few retarded hkers fall in love with colonizers. In medical terms, It's called Stockholm syndrome

>>132515165
That's just more market cycles. The Asian financial crisis of 97 seems like a one time event and black Monday was global. Unless the world crashes next year Hong Kong should do fine.
With the rise of neoliberalism, I think a good hedge is to try and promote the right of abode for Hong Kongers on the ground of the exemplary education and economically useful skills.
>>132515712
Or they want to keep some human rights and a fun internet. CCP blocks plenty of western sites, who knows 4chan maybe next.

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>>132502064

>>132515712
Incorrect. Siding with commies is the Stockholm syndrome.
Britain has Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, Hawkwind, the Beatles, etc. and these are great music. What music did the PRC have in the 60s, 70s? The composer of the PRC anthem was killed by the commies in 1968 by the way.

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I feel bad for you HKbros. I certainly wish we didn't hand you over to commies. Although i guess sending British boys to die for a small part of the world against a more powerful enemy wasn't very attractive.

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>>132516041
>muh human rights
>muh fun internet
funny how hkers never wanted independence and freedom under british rule and they suddenly want it after being abandoned by the queen. But don't get me wrong, I fully support whatever movement they are planning next cause Xi won't play nice like cuck Jiang anymore, and they will get glassed

>>132516660
>muh music
what are you? 5? Probably why you became a "Hongkong imperialist"

>>132516041
Right of abode is a big issue. Immigrants can become permanent citizens by living in HK for more than 7 years, but the real problem is, every year, from the north, the PRC sends like 150,000 people to Hongkong, while the HKSAR government cannot say no. We have no idea whether they are spies, saboteurs, or people who happen to side with Hongkong until each of them are inspected thoroughly.

Under the new PRC law, he's not even allowed to be here.

>>132517173
Putin of Russia listens to Black Sabbath, too. You have a problem with Black Sabbath?

>>132517602
>people who happen to side with Hongkong until each of them are inspected thoroughly.
Always assume that with mainlanders just look at Prato in Italy. Or the huge illegal population in Paris, that is counterfeiting western goods. Or the like of Gao ping in Spain.
I meant promote the right of abode for Hong Kongers in western countries. it's a long shot given the amount of mainlander births and PRC immigrants who qualify for hong konger passports. What you need is an ethnic lobby in the west, like the Taiwanese, but you don't have the numbers for it. While at the same time the mainlander Chinese ethnic lobby in the west like committee of 1000 tries to undermine Hong Kong.
>>132517173
They did try and work to advance their human rights, there were plenty of protests, but yeah Xi is for sure not going to play nice.

滾滾長江東逝水,浪花淘盡英雄。
是非成敗轉頭空:青山依舊在,幾度夕陽紅。
白髮漁樵江渚上,慣看秋月春風。
一壺濁酒喜相逢:古今多少事,都付笑談中。

>>132500192

Hey, I heard Hong Kong is really clean and is quite conservative?
Is it good to live there?

>>132518409
Ah, I see what you meant. There's actually someone preparing for the whole work of it.
If the commies and the "democrats" didn't make him lose the council election last year, the PRC would be much better off by now. Then again, commies fuck things up all the time.

What do Hong Kongers think of China/Macau? Do you like them, or do you hate the living shit out of them?

Are you a Chinese guy with a name starting with K by any chance?

>>132519060
If you live here, you have to stand the high rent or flat prices. Hongkong can get very humid and hot at times. Rains heavy too. And the typhoons.

But like the rest of east Asia, you have the PRC smog. I wouldn't say we are conservative unless you mean the elderly, especially those who went through WW2.

>>132519554
no

>>132519456
We are fine with Macau, because Macau also has commie problems.
The elderly are fine with the PRC, the middle-aged maybe 50/50, the youth hates it. If the youth loved it, upon reading 20th century history, they will immediately hate it.

>>132519219
China wants stability and power, human rights get in the way of those. What they consider being better off is way different than what we do. The whole mainlander spy and fifth column issue get in the way most things other countries could even do for Hong Kong, if they even bothered to remember your city. Hong Kong needs something to garner international attention again. In a positive light of course. but I can't think of anything that could be done quickly enough. Besides maybe promoting their fashion like cheongsams. But westerners are too fat to wear them.

>>132514860
They are doing that to hold power over their land, so that people hold power with their own money instead of betting the housing like they done in USA, which caused the bubble.

Hong Kong is rightful British clay and so is Jackie Chan

>>132521920
The stock and property bubble in Hongkong is the biggest as of yet. If it explodes, I don't know what might happen. I can't even imagine.

>>132522068
Yes, it was clay of UK. now it's clay of China, but it's not UK or China, then again is London British? It's less British than Hong Kong is Chinese, apart from money, it's connected to UK and Australia, maybe more so than USA.

>>132522656
British prices will go up, that will happen.

Fuck the Chinks who were brainwashed into thinking that Hong Kong is China's Bitch

>>132521130
The quicker the better, yet the planning must be careful as well. I believe the guy preparing all these has these in mind. He actually worked as an official in the HK government for some years, but he quit long ago, and he does seem to have his own intelligence network.

>>132519456
HK, NY, London, SF, Sydney, Vancouver, its all the same.

>>132521130
Isn't it better to sell yourself to own people than to foreigners like sheiks and Jews? If Hong Kong wanted to build fast on future profit and can't cover the loans, then they can go and buy it as future investment once more.

It's been great to talk to people from around the world, but alas, it's my time for bed. It's 5:13 AM already lol
I'll leave this ancient poem here:

床前看月光
疑是地上霜
舉頭望山月
低頭思故鄉

Have a great day/night guys :D

>>132523138
Next time you're here I'd like to know more about this guy.

>>132522720

My brain when trying to get my head around this sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc

>>132524604
In China they have a lot of Hong Kong migrants, but in London they have a lot of Arabic natives.

The 2015 general election showed Hong Kong has no future separate from the communists,. Emily Lao fought well but she can't win.